Prince Charles clearly wants people to believe that he is actively trying to bury the hatchet with Prince Harry, and that they are in more frequent communication. I have some doubts, but sure, let’s go with that. What’s interesting is that IF Charles and Harry are in communication these days, it probably means that Harry and William still barely speak to each other. The current royal narrative is that William is, as ever, incandescent with rage at his younger brother, and William doesn’t miss Harry or want Harry to ever come back. William and Kate successfully exiled the Sussexes because they (the Keens) wanted the spotlight all to themselves. So now they have it. What does it mean for the Other Brother if Charles and Harry’s relationship is thawing?
Prince William is said to want to remain neutral in a feud between his dad and brother over claims made about Camilla in Harry’s imminent memoir. Charles has reportedly told aides he fears his younger son’s new book will be an “excoriating takedown” of the Duchess of Cornwall, particularly in the early years of the couple’s romance.
While Wills cares for his father deeply, he is believed to want to steer well clear of the drama.
A source told The Sun: “Charles has shared his concerns with William, and is keen he somehow goes on the record and sticks up for Camilla, should the book attack her. But as much as William loves his father, he’s unlikely to want to get involved. In all likelihood he will try and stay neutral.”
This is actually kind of interesting to me! I come at these royal stories – as I think many of us do – through the perspective of “how does Harry feel/is this bad for Harry.” When really, it’s a chess board with a lot of moving pieces. There’s a good chance that Charles is actually trying to thaw out his relationship with Harry specifically to get under William’s skin, to “check” William in some way. Charles is playing the longer game, and as we’ve seen repeatedly, William is incapable of planning for the long-term. The idea of William “staying out of it” when Charles and Harry are talking… well, it might mean that Charles is actually telling William to stay out of it.
Meanwhile, Kensington Palace announced that William would attend the opening of the new BAFTA headquarters. William is the (honorary) president of BAFTA, and his only tasks are “occasionally showing up to premieres and the BAFTAs” and he rarely even does that. So I guess it is pretty notable that he’s attending this opening.
Prince William will visit newly the refurbished @BAFTA headquarters in London on Thursday. The re-opening will "significantly increase the support BAFTA provides to young people building careers in the film, games and television industries," a spokesperson says. pic.twitter.com/sn74Kjp0JD
— Omid Scobie (@scobie) January 25, 2022
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Ahhh on the former post about Charles’ worry for harry’s memoir I asked the question if that article could have come from KP. I guess now i have my answer
Willdemot is so ‘neutral’ he sent Jason Knauf to court against Harry’s wife. You LOST egghead and the world sees you for what you are. Give it up, roll up your sleeves and go cut those ribbons. No amount of rehabilitation of your image will work.
No other royal staff member has ever openly cooperated with a tabloid against another member of the royal family. William started a precedent that will come back to bite him.
Yea, if it came from one of the palaces KP would be the one the other article too. It could be a a writer just rehashing old stories. Clemmie Moodie, the one who wrote the other article had put out a story back in April about Will has proven himself as a natural born leader and Harry plays dirty.LOL That’s some serious twistering. Mr. Incandescent Engorged with Rage is not ‘neutral’. Knauf would not have done all the things he did without Will’s permission.
William and Kate are chasing so much different demo their PR is all over the place. The demo they want to appeal to with Kate style revamp and Will podcast most likely already picked a side those that are neutral don’t drive the conversation or make them trendy or part of pop culture like with H&M. Then the demo they are catering to by letting JK smear Meghan without hiding his hands and having this hard stance that it’s H&M at fault are their base the demo that really prop them up. Interesting to see how they’ll keep up.
Charles is not genuine at all but at least has the intelligence to see that he must have at least the appearance of being cool with Harry.
Sorry Charles, all this means is you cannot count on TOB to stick up for Camilla. You think you can use his jealousy of Harry to take your side but apparently both sons still hate her decades after your affair with her caused the divorce.
If William asked me for my advice I would tell him to stay out of it. No one knows what will be in Harry’s book and trying to get ahead of it is pointless.
Yes, these claims seem like silly, made-up noise. Whether or not both Harry and Wills have or had issues with Camilla privately, it was Harry who previously spoke out in support of Camilla. In 2005 when Harry spoke to the media on the occasion of his 21st birthday, he said about Camilla, “We are very grateful for her. She’s made our father very happy. We love her to bits.”
https://www.smh.com.au/world/harry-and-wills-on-camilla-we-love-her-to-bits-20050915-gdm2mg.html
Harry’s memoir is not gonna be about haranguing and critiquing Camilla. British media need to stop their desperate throwing of shizz against the wall 24/7, because they don’t have access to the Sussexes! They will never have access to the Sussexes! They need to find other royal ‘dead horses’ to beat.
So when do we get the story that Kate was the peacemaker helping PC and H to connect and keeping W “neutral”?
I’m sure that Kate would like to keep William neutered, but that’s as far as it goes.
Baldy is such a loser.
@BTB Agreed. Such a loser. And this family is exhausting.
I see. There’s an imaginary feud between Charles and Harry over imaginary criticism of Camilla in Harry’s not yet published memoir. And William is going to stay out of this imaginary situation. That’s good – it leaves William more time to conduct his actual feud against Harry.
When all you can write about is hypotheticals, that really is scraping the bottom of the barrel. These so-called reporters really have no clue what’s going on. SMH
i think this is actually a pretty strong rebuke to Charles. William is saying that he’s not going to defend Camilla and will remain “neutral,” my guess is because anything that harry says about her william will agree with.
But again, I dont think Camilla is going to be a focus or “target” of this memoir, I think Charles is worried for his own skin more than hers, and its the same thing though – William isn’t going to defend Charles either.
But if I were William, I would be more worried what my younger brother might have to say about me and my wife.
I wonder if harry might touch on those bullying claims and where that might have originated from.
@Chloe: Harry’s spoken about the bullying claims on the Me You Can See documentary. He didn’t say who he thinks did it but that it was done to smear Meghan.
But you would think that after William seeing what his father’s cheating did to his mom and their marriage, that he would Have become a better, faithful husband. But nope. He took all that bad from Charles but likes to act like he is above it all and a better man because he isn’t divorcing his stepford or that Kate and her parents are so desperate to be queen that he doesn’t have to lift a finger to get her to stay quiet. So his cheating can continue and he keeps looking better than his dad. And yes, his arrogant ass should be worried about what Harry can say about those two after what they have done to Meghan. Jason didn’t give himself permission to break his nda did he ?
Well, this part – ” he likes to act like he is above it all and a better man because he isn’t divorcing his stepford” I think is exactly the point. William has convinced himself that what he is doing is fine and he is SO MUCH BETTER than his father because he’s not divorcing Kate, or it won’t be as public and messy a divorce as what Charles and Diana went through, or whatever. People like him never think they are making the same “mistake” or behaving as badly as other people. So he thinks what he is doing in his marriage is a completely different issue from what Charles did to Diana.
I agree with this. Harry is he’s going to name names, is way more likely to mention his brother and sister in law, especially because Harry is very protective of Meghan and those two have not been very nice at all to his wife.
William HAS to stay neutral about Camilla, because whatever he says will only ignite his own affair rumors again. “Of course William thinks it’s ok for the Prince of Wales to have a mistress! #PrinceWilliamAffair.” Or, “William thinks it was wrong of Charles to have an affair, what a hypocrite! #PrinceWilliamAffair.” So either way is bad for him. He will just stay silent.
Neutral as opposed to helpful or vengeance demon. Okay, you stay neutral, Baldy, but you know what? You’re a liar.
Yeah, William’s new pr is apparently about how neutral calm and above it all he is. Please forget that his previous incandescence has led to so much space that Harry doesn’t even talk to him. William and Kate are not worried at all about the memoir. Not at all. They are so neutral that they’re about to roll up to a Swiss chalet.
As president of BAFTA, attending this event is sincerely the least William can possibly do – his schedule doesn’t exactly seem full, y’know?
As for a thawing between Harry and Charles, I think it’s yet another example of Charles trying to play his sons against each other. He made sure it was known that HE reached out to his prodigal son (Harry), but pretty conspicuously left William out of it. I don’t know if he is trying to push William to make a similar public gesture, or if he’s just enjoying that William is now on the outs. Maybe both things can be true.
*gasp* how dare you!?!? He is VERY VERY busy!!!! Those gardens don’t tend themselves!
I think he has moved on from that garden, though. But I am certain Baldingham would like to maintain his attorney-client privilege as long as it takes to dump wife #1 for wife #2, as soon as TQ passes! He is staying neutral due to the fact he isn’t interested or has his own plans up his sleeve.
But you are right Becks1, due to Baldingham and the games that he plays. He never looks to see how to gain his ultimate goal and plan accordingly. No, Baldingham will steal, lie and conspire with no forethought. Baldingham hasn’t the capacity or the thought process to create the steps to reach his goal. Baldingham is driven by his anger/jealousy to determine his next step, without the slightest idea how each action he takes alters his pathway to his goal.
I hope that I made some sense. No sleep, pain and meds. Lots of meds!
@Becks1, I’m just worried he might exhaust his poor self on this outing and not be able to make it to the actual awards ceremony…
@bothsidesnow, hope you feel better soon!
@bothsides, good point. He’s over gardening, he wants a law degree next. Feel better soon!
@Jay LOL, maybe that’s the whole point, he does this so he’s still doing “something” for BAFTA but gets to skip out on the awards ceremony. They’ll probably be on vacation.
So all the gardening references can become Bar Exam references
Did Charles actually reach out? Remember if you don’t hear it from H&M or Archwell it might be a lie.
Yeah, Robert Phillips, I’m with you. Also?
“While Wills cares for his father deeply, he is believed to want to steer well clear of the drama.”
The use of “Wills” makes me believe none of this.
Maybe Willy is saying he wants to stay neutral because Harry relationship with him will forever be space because Willy is an engorged, incandescent, racist D—ckless wonder of the world and Harry hasn’t forgotten about what William and Kate did to Meghan y letting Jason break his nda. Or Kate 40th birthday rants about what a terrible person Meghan is but Kate being a white savior is far to roses to be like Meghan. Or how about Robert Lacey book when William called Meghan all those absolutely vile horrible names .
Yeah. Harry has a long list to fill that space between him and Baldimort
William can only hope that the memoir will focus on Camilla and take the spotlight off what William and Kate have done over at KP.
Charles to William: If you stick up for my second wife in the press, I’ll do the same for yours one day.
NAILED IT!
O.M.G. This is the laugh I needed, it’s totally bullshit quid pro quo, royals on Salty Isle edition.
At this point I’m just picturing the RRs having imaginary conversations in their heads while taking dictation.
These pictures of William the bald crack me up, on the top in the uniform, we have what William wishes he looked like, versus the next one, Williams reality .
I think when called upon to do so, William will side with Charles against Harry. His comments about Bashir showed that he’s fully behind the Windsors now.
My take on these 2 stories is:
1 – Its not really Chuck who’s worried but TOB and Keen Mutton McButtons, they are projecting onto others as always
2 – This is William broadcasting that he is out of the loop on Chuck and Harry’s comms/relationship and is not happy about it as he can’t interfere. It also reeks of a ‘what about meeeeeeeee’
3 – William inserting himself into the narrative, as he always does
4 – Got to keep feeding the beast
He really is a pathetic assh0le.
Neutral? More like not even involved in the conversations because Harry isn’t speaking to him and Charles knows he’ll sabotage any positive movement in his relationship with Harry. As for Camilla, Harry isn’t going to bash her. That’s just a fevered dream. His beef is with the Firm, his father and William. Those 3 are the ones who should and are worried about the book. But even then, I don’t think this book will be a bash fest on them either. It’ll take broad swipes at them as Harry discusses his development and maturation.
These rotas are always instigating cause they have nothing on California. One Will is neutral cause he’s never had to say sorry or have a true consequence for his actions as the future king. It’s always been Kate, Charles, Harry fixing it or Making the first move. So he’ll never be the first one to repair a relationship. I think this is the reason Meg nor Harry goes to the jubilee. You dragged Meghan with Jason, Kate’s trying to be her even on her lasest event, she’s trying to copy, yet let’s everyone know on 📷 that she despises her and even rolled her eyes at a joke about suits. The rota will stalk them the entire time they’d be in Britain why go to the jubilee? The children aren’t close so why even put yourself in the situation.
Why do I feel like William’s bafta involvement might mean no Spencer noms? If he can sway that, he will try. Or swaying what people say during broadcast. Wasn’t he in the audience when rebel Wilson made those comments about Harry and Andrew? I cannot imagine that went over well.
I think it’s already been nominated. My guess is he’s going to try to avoid the show as a result.
IIRC, that night (with Rebel Wilson) also involved Brad Pitt making a joke about Harry (he wasn’t there, this was via Margot Robbie, but then she said (prewritten by Pitt) “Pitt wrote that he would name his award Harry because “he’s really excited about bringing it back to the States with him.” (per vogue, I googled to make sure I got the quote exactly right lol.)
And was it that awards show or another one where someone made a joke about taking the gold back to the colonies?
Yes it was the BAFTAS and it was Taika Waititi. I also think he’s going to this event so he can skip the main ceremony. Will Di Amin is as thin skinned as they come. He can’t handle any jokes at his expense.
You’re right, Becks. I just checked and Spencer is included in the long list of bafta nominations. But that gets narrowed to a short list on Feb. 3rd so there’s still time. I don’t know that he has that kind of influence but he prob thinks he does. I would love for someone at the ceremony to mention KP’s diversity numbers or the lack of transparency in those numbers. Or some sort of joke about William’s “diversity speech” and the obvious hypocrisy. I mean it’s low hanging fruit at this point.
Maybe he’ll send Duchess Buttons-n-Bows in his place. I envision her making a grand entrance in another sparkly atrocity that costs more than most Brits make in a year. That oughta go over real well with the thespians.
Basher hates jokes at his expense and usually ducks the BAFTAs if he can because actresses clearly remind him of his independent SIL. I enjoy the irony of him complaining about BAFTAs lack of diversity given his treatment of Meghan.
I only read the excerpt because I never click on the Sun but it doesn’t seem like this article is saying that Charles and Harry are getting closer. It says that Charles is panicking about the memior trashing Camilla(it won’t) but William has no intention in helping Charles defend her. I honestly think this entire article is made up tbh because they are using other RRs story about Charles fearing the memior as the basis for it. And we know these people love to just quote other RRs as royal sources to make stories up when they have no intel and right now they have no intel at all on what Harry is doing.
Charles never changes. I think he’s really afraid about what Harry will write about HIM not Camilla. Perhaps he feels he really did nothing wrong. He is usually deflecting blame from himself.
Is that Sunday Times Magazine new?
Is it just me or is the headline “The Other Brother” really unflattering for William?
It’s from the spring and yes, its unflattering for him. But the Times followed up a few weeks later with Kate as Che Guevara, so I guess this was better.
Camilla gave a speech that was touted as powerful, yesterday. Today silly willy will stay neutral if harry attacks her, how rich, along with willy is ready to be king. The lamebridges really want to push his dad out of the line to the throne. They suck.
I think Camilla has speeches written for her. I am not sold her as a spokeswoman for abused women. Considering her situation with Diana. I think Camilla was also not nice to Meghan.
This. B*tch.
I will always root for Harry and Charles to reconcile as father and son. I know a lot of you see William and Kate as lazy but I think it runs deeper than that.
*puts on tinfoil tiara*
I think William pours all of his energy into being contrary to Charles and working against Charles behind the scenes. The leaks about all of Charles’ scandals…it sounds like William put it out there to me. I think that’s how William gets revenge on Charles by actively working to dismantle Charles’ 25 year press rehabilitation. In tandem, William goes out of his way to not show support to his father.
Now is this a completely childish way to manage your contempt of a parent? Yes. But it also fits in tandem with the royal family’s overall emotional immaturity. These people have no concept of what life can truly be.
I’m reminded of that moment when I saw Thor: Ragnarok and Thor tells the story about how Loki turned into a snake in order to stab him. I have a similar vision when I think of the relationship between William and Charles. How exhausting must that be for Charles to have one son who will go for the kill at any moment? On the other hand, he does have another son who really doesn’t give a flying f about the royal stuff but just wants to make money and live with his wife and kids. I think after the year Charles has had, he may find it difficult to trust anyone within the palace walls.
William should be afraid about what comes out of Harry’s book. If Harry and Charles are working things out, it takes suspicion off Chuck he is the Royal Racist. Baldy is afraid of KP tea is going to spill.
So Will is in denial that he plotted against his own brother and pushed him out? Give me a break.