The news about Prince Harry’s memoir, Spare, came out on Thursday. Well, the NY Times leaked some of the news on Wednesday night, then Harry and Penguin Random House dropped the release date, cover and title on Thursday. The reaction from the British media was what everyone expected: abject panic. Royal sources and royal reporters (perhaps one and the same) were furious and scandalized that Harry wouldn’t cancel his memoir, and there were threats of legal actions and royal retribution. But, you know, nothing on the record with a named source. No official statement from King Charles or the Palace.
Then on Friday, we probably got Charles’s official reaction: he will take over the role of Captain General of the Royal Marines, a ceremonial position which was previously filled by Prince Harry, and before that, Prince Philip. It was one of the honorary military roles which QEII took away from Harry in 2021. Reportedly, William and Anne both wanted the role, but Charles kept it for himself. Then the palace leaked that Charles told Harry about it in advance, which makes all of this look like a heavy-handed moment of royal retribution from Charles.
King Charles was today announced as the new ceremonial head of the Royal Marines, a role previously held by his son, Prince Harry. In a sign of the sensitivity of the situation, the Mail can reveal that Harry was informed of his father’s decision to take on the role himself before it was made public.
Although some had speculated that Princess Anne would subsequently become the first woman to hold the role, no new appointment was made until today. Until Philip was given the role by his wife in 1953, the position was held by a succession of sovereigns: King George V, King Edward VIII and King George VI, Charles’ great-grandfather, great uncle and grandfather.
The Queen had, however, been keen to pay tribute to her husband’s own proud military career – which he was forced to give up when they married – and he proved to be a much loved and popular ceremonial head. He remained in the post for 64 years and 201 days.
In Charles’s formal statement about taking over the role, he failed to mention both his son and his father, and instead noted that the position had previously been filled by King George V, George VI and Edward VIII. That fact, plus the leak about Harry being told beforehand was absolutely, 100% about Charles reacting to the news about Spare. There’s still a calculation being made in King Charles’s court, which is that they still have the power to “hurt” Harry. They know they can’t control him anymore, but they can go out of their way to snub him and try to humiliate him. That’s what this is – it’s Charles reminding his veteran son that he (Harry) no longer gets to serve any honorary military positions. Charles’s actions during the mourning period and funeral have repeatedly emphasized that effort, that calculation, that Charles still has the power to wound. Charles is such a petty, small man.
Quite a feat to airbrush out your father and your son.
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Charles is a narcissist and he only loves his children as extensions of him. William is selfish, angry and lazy, but he is not narcissit. You can see that by the way he allows KKKate´s PR to run amok.
But Charles? It is always all about himself. Camila PR is all about how she is the love of his life and how he is scared of Harry because of Camila.
This is to say: of course Charles wants to urt Harry. Harry turned him down, effectively. Charles will do what is best for Charles. He does not even care that much for the ” institution” because he sees himself now as THE institution. People either work for him or against him.
William better watch out.
I don’t know if I agree with your last comment because Peggington has and is always doing what he wants. Chuck has always treated him with kid gloves, allowing tantrum after tantrum. I don’t think suddenly, now, Chuck will begin treating Peggington any differently. Especially as Peggs has his own funding now (Cornwall) and his own media mouthpieces…what would he even need the king for? The king will take care of Peggington and Buttons because they’re all he has left.
I think, as evidenced by Harry’s entire life as ‘the Spare,’ he is the one who’s been jerked around by the institution, whose teenaged bad behavior was shared with the media to protect the heir. And who even today is still being “punished” by his father. I honestly don’t think William needs to watch out at all (from his father anyway…the Midds, who know where allll Willy’s dirty laundry is buried, yes).
With regard to Harry, I wonder if his father even has the power to make him feel hurt anymore. It’s almost like they’ve done their worst, with the abuse of his wife and children. I don’t think losing his military patronages compares to almost losing Meghan and Archie. I wonder if Harry has already worked though this type of fatherly behavior with his therapist and with Meghan and so now just sits back, sees more evidence of what a petty a$$hole father and is like, yep, tell me something I don’t know already.
Obviously that’s not to say someone who has been hurtful, and that you’ve moved on, from can’t still be hurtful, but I almost wonder (or maybe just want to believe, for Harry’s own mental health and piece of mind) if Harry is so done with that family that all he sees is more evidence of why he was right to get his family out of their toxic and dangerous clutches.
Sorry, this turned into a really long (more general) reply.
The title is “Spare” not “The Spare”…..big difference and so ingenious!
I wonder how much of the family Harry is DONE with. I’m sure by now he knows which ones he can trust and which ones he can’t. We know he trusts Eugenie and Jack. Harry’s got oodles of cousins on both sides of the family. We have no idea which family members he is or is not tight with. There could have been many Windsor and Spencer cousins and Aunts visiting them in Monetecito.
Yes, VS, I know. I was somehow trying to incorporate his role throughout his life and how others referred to and treated him with the title of the book. That’s why I didn’t capitalize ‘the.’ Obviously that was only clear in my own head 😆
@SussexWatcher. I agree with the entirety of your post, most especially re Meghan and Archie. Sadly for the remaining royals I too believe Harry is far removed from being hurt or humiliated by them. Therefore, what ever actions his birth family takes will reflect their pettiness. Harry and his wife have carefully removed themselves from being bothered by the slings and arrows these folks throw with therapy. Obviously, this honor was intended for Harry because his grandmother gave it to him and pretty sure it was at the behest of his grandfather. Instead of trying to hurt Harry it appears to me he is disrespecting his mother and father wishes. I interpreted this by him not referencing his father and son as the previous recipients of this honor. Charles reign will be painful and short, short because he looks in ill health and taken with his age this is not a good sign. Painful because most of the rabid supporters of this institution remembers the Diana years and there is nothing he can do to change this. All of Charles deeds will come back to bite him.
@sussexwatcher. My brother took his life in 2013. It brought out 40 plus years of anger toward my father and his behavior. He picked his mistress over his family just like Charles. I had therapy for the first time. And for the first time felt my feelings validated. Does my dad still do hurtful things? Yes, sometimes, he is 80 now. Does it hurt? No. The validation helped me release the anger so that I could forgive him so that my soul could heal. I pray this is where Harry and Megan are at so that they are no longer hurt by Charles words or actions.
@SussexWatcher, ITA. It was a long and painful road for Harry, but I also think he’s reached a point where his father’s BS can’t truly hurt him.
I’m sure he feels an initial pang when he first hears something like this- he’s only human – but he’s able to move on immediately because as you said, he knows exactly who Charles is and Charles no longer has the power to truly get to him. I agree with you that it probably just proves to him over and over again how right he was to GTFO.
Some days are probably harder than others for Harry, because Charles IS still his only remaining parent, and Harry does seem to be a super sensitive person. But imo Harry sees very clearly how Charles treated him for four decades (and continues to) and has made peace with it. He has his own family now.
Charles and William are bitterly jealous of Harry. Much like how Charles was bitterly jealous of Diana.
Looks like the king is also keeping Duke of Edinburgh. Charles is keeping everything.
I would imagine he already let Edward know he only has things to lose if he insists in asking for the Edinburgh title…and we know Edward and Sophie will not rock the boat, so its moot.
As for William, what I meant is that Charles will not hesitate in throwing him under the bus if things get bad…he is King already and does not care about the future of the institution after he passes. He is not a religious man, like his mother, so he wants everything he can get it and now and apres moi, le deluge
Me thinking: Charles has never learned how to be generous, to be a giver. He is just a calculated user/taker/abuser. He hits (back) at everybody who has/wants what he has put his hands/eyes on. The only person he cares for is his emotional enabler, the person who fulfil his pathetic needs (C). I don’t even know if that is love (they say it is).
To me, Charles is still that 5 year old abandoned child – neglected and not felt loved by his father and mother – who was left to be taken care for by his grandmother and uncle Mountbatten. Probable he has never worked to better himself. At his old age, I can’t see him as therapy material either.
@ModeratelyWealthy, I am MORE than ready for Charles to start throwing William under the bus!
@Hennyo, we were typing at the same time, but I agree with everything you said as well. I wish I could feel more sympathy for Charles, because he did have a hellish childhood, by all accounts…but I just can’t. Not after the way he treated Harry, Meghan, and their children.
They stripped Harry of the role, more than 2 years ago, I’m sure he knew someone else, would fill the role.
Tampon is really a bitter man, it does not matter how much he has, he still jealous of Harry.
He leaking against the new PM because he is following Liz Truss lead and keeping Tampon from the climate change conference in Egypt.
To prove how smart tampon think he is, 365 days in a year and he chose the birth date of the grandchild he don’t care about, for his coronation.
Yeah, I don’t think Harry is hurt by this. It was expected. Any hurt happened 2 years ago when he was stripped of the title, but even then he knew it was a possibility and accepted it.
Exactly….I don’t think H gives a sh**** about what those people do anymore. It is like you make peace with a decision and everything that happens afterwards, you just laugh!
I don’t know in how many ways H has to tell people that he has moved on and his life is in Montecito with his family and trusted group of friends! whatever C and W do over there is for their audience of racists! H resigned
I’m sure Harry had put this aside a while ago, but I have to wonder at the “sensitivity” of letting him know of the change before it was announced. Did Charles give a call – “Hey there, how’s the family? I hear your book is coming out in January. BTW, I’m taking over your old position as general of the royal marines. Camilla says hi, too.” Or was there an email from some random flunkey at BP?
Why would tampon notify Harry of taking over a ceremonial role, when he told the press the Queen passed before Harry.
The tabloids have been running a story all last week, that since the Queen’s funeral none of the BRF have heard from Harry.
I still find it funny, that the BM and tampon thought he would get a copy of the book before it was release.
@Jan – I know, it’s ludicrous to imagine that Charles would want to show sensitivity to Harry over this when there was no sensitivity shown over more important things during the Queens’s death an funeral. Not to mention the lack of sensitivity in not mentioning Harry and Phillip in this announcement.
Captain General of the Royal Marines. To me the question is not about why did Charles take this role for himself, or when and who informed Harry, but why is this ceremonial title still a thing in 2022. Charles is already head of all the military forces why is this additional ceremonial title needed. If the military still wants to keep those titles give them to a well deserving person who has earned the respect within that branch.
All these European monarch can start moving into the 21st century by doing away with dressing up like third world dictators who probably dressed up to imitate European monarchs.
What will be interesting to watch is what the palace will try to do to one-up Harry’s book especially when excerpts are leaked or published. Like what news could come out of KP or CIII that would even remotely pull focus from this book? I think the only big news might be if will and Kate announced a divorce, and even that isn’t a guarantee.
Saw a blurb on LSA that Katie Nicholl was saying this week on some show that Kate is stressed and anxious and that the settling in period to Adelaide has not been what they were hoping for. I’ve been thinking that this two week break with the kids is really Kate retreating back into the MIA lifestyle she originally planned for herself before the untimely inconvenience of Betty’s passing. It feels like Kate has finished her Intro to Princess of Wales appearances, now she’s demanding the free time she was promised as part of the Adelaide move.
Maybe Kate will get that fourth kid she’s been wanting. Nothing more positive, and distracting, then a new royal baby
@Harper — we all expected Keen to retreat back into her shell. Her behaviour around the Queen’s funeral was inexcusable, and her obvious deep dive into the royal jewelry box, as well as her palpably vicious treatment of Meghan and Harry, cost her a lot of good will. She can stay hiding out at Adelaide, we’re all sick of her.
@Lauren — no fourth child will happen unless William agrees to go the turkey baster route. His disdain of her has been clearly obvious for a long time now and I’d bet my last nickel they’re unofficially separated — he’ll spend most of his time at Windsor castle and elsewhere until they have to force themselves to make nice and go visit the colonials. I only hope they don’t visit Canada — I hate wasting my tax dollars on these useless dullards.
I don’t think a fourth child will happen for a lot of reasons, and even if there was another baby I don’t think there would be the level of interest that was seen with George.
Would anyone in the brf or adjacent to the family get thrown under the bus to pull focus from the book?
Jaded, I hope you’re right about Kate’s actions costing her a lot of goodwill. Her behaviour was appalling and atrocious. She needs a little karma for those actions alone, nevermind the rest of her married life.
@Lauren/@Jaded, I go back and forth on whether or not W&K will have one more baby. Obviously most signs point to “not,” but imo they’re growing more desperate by the day. They need to be the focal point of some positive (international) press, and they need it asap.
IF it did happen, I don’t think it would be because they still live together and it happened naturally (lmfAO). It would be a calculated decision made by both of them solely for PR reasons (at least for William; I think that K genuinely wants lots more babies).
@GreenGirl is right that a fourth baby would get nowhere near the attention that George’s birth did, but even Charlotte’s didn’t. By the time poor Louis came along, it seemed like only people like us who follow the royals closely even knew he existed. Especially because it was so close to Harry & Meghan’s wedding, which was what everyone was excited about and paying attention to at the time, the spring of 2018.
But I think W&K are possibly desperate enough to do anything they can to pull headlines from the Sussexes, especially if it can be timed around the book’s release. (I can already see the headlines: “Heartless Harry Still Hurling Truth Bombs at the poor Princess of Wales, home SICK IN BED with HG!” blah blah)
I’m not saying I think another baby *will* happen, but I wouldn’t write it off completely. Because what else do these two have to offer? Absolutely nothing. Kate can’t very well show up in a glittering gown next to Tom Cruise every day. That’s the last time I remember anyone outside of royal-followers paying her any attention at all. (And it sure wasn’t because of her “work,” lol.)
Maybe a lot will depend on how they’re received in Boston? If William is satisfied that his little Earthsh!t thing made enough of an impact for him that he’s “more visible in the US” (lol), he might just go right back to his mistress/es without a second thought, leaving Kate to sulk alone at Adelaide. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Too late to edit, but one more thing: even though W&K are in their 40’s, as far as the BRF goes, they’re still the “young” ones, and clearly they want to stretch that out as long as possible.
Another baby would help with their whole, “We’re still a young, growing family, finding our footing!” schtick.
@Greengirl – Maybe another offspring for Incandescent and Buttons to pull focus from “Spare.”
But really, it would be ultimate “band-aid” baby.
I’m not surprised that KC omitted mentioning Harry – but Philip as well? Did he hate (or envy) his father?
Probably both. Maybe Phillip always told him to quit whining.
@Scooby Gang, I figure it’s because George, George and Edward are all Kings, whereas C the t’ird’s father and son are not. S/
@ML I agree, I think he was justifying why he, as monarch would take this role rather than pass onto, say Bulliam.
Bingo
Several years ago, there was a program featuring KCIII watching old (previously private) home movies of his parents. I noticed the tone in which he spoke about both of them. He clearly adored his mother; he watched her in fascination (something like “wow look how young and beautiful she was!”) and spoke of her with a lot of affection. When it came to his father though, oof. Nowhere near the same amount of affection. It was more like,” Oh yes and there’s Papa.” Because of that, I got the impression that Charles didn’t really like his father at all. I mean, I’m sure he loved him because that was his dad but you can love someone without actually liking them, especially when it’s family.
@scooby – Probably both. Philip was likely a taskmaster and he certainly showed questionable judgment (to put it mildly – including his racism and womanizing) but he had an overall view of keeping “the family” in line which they respected and he was handsome and confident, two things Charles isn’t.
Yes Charles was very critical of his father in his authorized biography, basically describing him as a bully.
So Charles can do that but Harry will cause Salt Island to meltdown faster than climate change if he publishes a memoir. Charles really is a hot mess.
Yep. His parents and his maternal grandmother did a number on him (and then add an institutional structure that seem designed to produces narcissists). A mother he adored but who was distant and cold to him while favouring his younger brother. A bullying father – and a grandmother who cossetted , indulged him and treated him as better than his siblings (and father) because he was the heir. That is bound to produce one messed up person.
And because he was the heir – everyone around him sucked up to him. Just like they do with William (I remember an article written by a woman who were in William and Harry’s social orbit before W married Kate – and she described how William and his friends very much felt like a King and his court of toadying friends unlike the energy between Harry and other people. She also had some interesting remarks about the coldness in W and K’s interactions).
@art historian If it’s the same article I am thinking of, it described William as determining what was appropriate for jokes and nicknames and the rest of the group followed or they were out of the circle.
Throw in kate and her desire to fit in and it is unlikely that William has ever had real pushback except from Harry and sometimes Charles. There is no way someone can develop normally like that.
It’s also similar to the sycophants who surround trump.
@ArtHistorian and @Nic, omg, can one of you please drop the link to this article? (If it still exists, even if only on the Wayback Machine)
There was interest in George’s birth and Charlotte since she was the first princess born to a direct heir since princess anne. I don’t think there will be a fourth child
“Charles’s actions during the mourning period and funeral have repeatedly emphasized that effort, that calculation, that Charles still has the power to wound. Charles is such a petty, small man.”
No, Charles no longer has ANY power to wound Harry (or Meghan). But he will still desperately attempt to try to, because like you said, he “is such a petty, small man”.
Harry serves in real roles and real life, not ceremonial ones. The monarchy is fiction and Harry finally gets to live in fact. If Charles wants to hurt Harry for telling it like it t-I is, he, alongside his yes-people, can proudly march through life wearing no clothes while all the peasants and the rest of the world laugh.
I love this!
“Harry serves in real roles and real life, not ceremonial ones. The monarchy is fiction and Harry finally gets to live in fact.”
Beautiful. Well said.
I am going to remember the line, “the monarchy is fiction and Harry finally gets to live in fact.”, for the rest of my life.
I love it, perfectly said.
I think not mentioning Phillip and Harry is more about “I am the king” – showing that the role was always held by the sovereign and Harry and Phillip were his mother’s aberrations.
I think this is pretty hilarious, actually. It’s not enough for Charles that he’s now the king and already commander-in-chief, he needs all the additional titles and medals and symbols and gold braids, etc., etc., etc. I look forward to seeing what other “roles” he will bestow upon himself.
I’m still shocked that he didn’t pay tribute to his “dear papa”.
He’s a sad, sad little man, isn’t he?! At his age to be getting even with his father for the slights and emotional damage he feels he suffered as a child, and has held a grudge for all these decades, and trying vainly to pass along that generational “trauma” to the son he can’t control is just pathetic. I think at this point, the chances that H/M/A/L will travel to the UK for the coronation ON ARCHIE’S BIRTHDAY—if they’re invited, which doesn’t look like a sure thing— are evaporating/evaporated.
BP Courtier: The Duke and Duchess of Sussex are cordially invited to attend the coronation of His Royal Majesty King Charles III … please be so kind as to RSVP to 44-888-PETTYDAD …
Harry: Sending regrets as that date conflicts with a more important celebration, but congrats all the same.
It is sad for KC. It’s somewhat understandable if his father really was bullying toward him, but if you consider yourself to be representing a “firm” then you suck it up (what H&M were expected to do) and acknowledge all those who held the title. Then, even if you are being insincere, you at least sound professional.
@Eurydice, honestly. We already knew that Charles was a small, petty, jealous little man. But even now that he’s freaking KING, he still seems determined to keep reminding us every single day of how small he is, regardless of his title or rank. His own mind must be a miserable place to spend every day.
@C-Shell, lmfao at “congrats all the same” 🤣
I have never heard of a father inheriting from his son before so this is quite a choice.
I don’t know Harry but I would imagine he’s known for 2 years that this was coming. While I agree Charles looks for any way to hurt Harry, I believe Harry knows his father all too well. I think of the look on Harry and Meghan’s faces in the car during the funeral and the smile on Harry’s face talking to the Well Child winners and speaking about his children and dogs. I don’t think Charles and William have fully realized that Harry has moved on. The institution clings to dress up but they don’t really care about the soldiers.
I also believe if Harry had stayed, he’d have been forced to step down as captain and Meghan would have been forced to step down as patron of the National theatre. What’s becoming very clear is Charles and Camilla resented Harry and Meghan being given those plum roles by the Queen.
@Quinn, idk if Charles and William will EVER fully realize the extent to which Harry has truly moved on. The monarchy is all they have; they need to remain convinced of how lucky they are, to be able to call themselves “Kings” of the bestest country ever.
Their sanity relies on maintaining that level of cognitive dissonance, imo, because if they honestly admitted to themselves that Harry actually does have it better than they do — that he “won” — their lives as they know them are shattered and meaningless. 🙃
I like to think the Royal Marines were pissed to loose Harry and rejected Anne, Will and Kate so KCIII is keeping it. Was this the group who gave Harry a standing ovation?
You may be right. I remember some veterans being unhappy when Harry was stripped of the honorary military titles. But I don’t know that they have any say in it. They’re an afterthought for the royals.
I’ve been thinking similar thoughts. Yes, Charles is missing several sensitivity chips, among other things, but I can see thinking that taking on the role himself — as other kings have done — might be viewed more neutrally both by the Royal Marines and within the BRF than giving it to William or Anne or anyone else in the family. At least Charles had some military training and service. I think Charles may have chosen the least bad option, with bonus points for being least contentious and more narcissistic.
What a pathetic, whining manchild. Imagine being the head of the most famous monarchy and behaving like this.
There are some people that you just know when they pass away the world will be a much better place, he is right at the top of the list. I doubt anyone will mourn this little man, but the devil will probably be dancing to welcome the head of the Church of England when the time comes.
There’s no such thing as hell. But in this story, obviously the devil already has the first head of the Church of England, and plenty more besides. (And huge numbers of other religious leaders of all kinds.)
@emily_c
It wasn’t meant to be literal. I understand the evils of organized religion since I spent years studying the history of all Religions especially the three major monotheistic ones. I’m sorry if you did not get that or were offended.
I really wonder what the actual military thinks of all this? To have the guy who is technically their top commander being so incredibly petty towards an actual veteran can’t be doing much for Charles’ popularity within the armed forces?
I’m not sure I believe that harry was told before the announcement but it’s clear the omissions of his father’s and Harry’s involvement was intentional. I think Charles was very jealous of Harry’s relationship with his parents.
Another example of history repeating itself and generational family trauma. Charles was doted on by his grandmother and Uncle Dickie while his parents neglected him. And Harry was clearly doted on by Philip and Elizabeth while Charles neglected him.
Doted on by his grandmother, who was so racist she shocked other aristocrats at the time. And by his Uncle Dickie, who raped little boys. Lovely influences the king had.
Agreed. Most reports indicate Charles couldn’t tell Harry about the queens passing but we are meant to believe he would tell him about this role. Please.
I prefer Charles getting it then other suggestions seeing as he at least served. But I agree Amy Bee. We heard Camilla was disappointed when the queen handed the National Theatre role to Meghan & I wouldn’t be surprised if Charles felt a way about Philip’s Royal Marines role going to Harry. Tom Bradby said back in January 2020 that there was lots of jealousy & the queen & Philip were only ones that were friendly. I wouldn’t be surprised if Harry’s popularity with veterans because of invictus etc was a sore spot within the family. Also makes me wonder if Charles was more closely involved with decisions to immediately strip military roles when Harry stepped back (they didn’t strip Andrew’s military roles until this year despite his stepping back in 2019) and not to allow harry’s wreath than previously thought.
Grandparents can sometimes have better bonds with grandkids than with their kids as they are usually softer with grandkids & from Charles own accounts he had many issues with his parents. Whereas it’s interesting that Harry claimed back in April that the queen told him things she didn’t share with others& royal reporters said that the queen was only one Harry listened to in recent years & only one that was visiting the Sussexes in Frogmore. I wonder if Charles has ever felt a way about Harry’s relationship with his parents.
I’m convinced Invictus is going to be the straw that broke the camel’s back. Harry has proven, decisively, that the monarchy is a facade, and doesn’t benefit any of its patronages in a meaningful way. Meanwhile, the prince they will believe they “exiled” until their dying day, is helping wounded warriors at the international level. Add in Sentebale, and we get the very clear picture of the one member of the family who is actually changing the world for the better, and, oh, not costing a single taxpayer anything.
At a certain point, surely England has to see this for what it is: A centuries long grift.
@Christine, everything you said!!
And the fact that Harry founded both Invictus AND Sentebale while he was still a full-time working member of the BRF really backs Charles and William into a corner — moreso William, because regardless of what a sh!tty person he is, Charles DID actually accomplish a lot when he was the POW.
But William? There’s no excuse. Harry’s achievements only serve to highlight William’s…total lack of any. The ONLY thing William has over Harry is “But I’m the heir!” Which…true, but Harry clearly sees that for what it is and wants no part of it.
@ABritGuest, ITA that maybe the IG was, for a while, a sore spot among the members of the BRF, but by now, the unbelievable worldwide success of Invictus must absolutely *eat away* at them. 🥰
Lorelei, even better, Harry had Sentebale and Invictus BEFORE he met Meghan, so they can’t rage at the better Duchess in any way. Harry had already made his place in the world.
Tell me, again, British media, how Meghan stole Harry from all of you, with her witchy ways. I will show you a Ginger Prince who was done with all of you before he even met Meghan.
He made it clear how he felt about philip in his authorized biography. Charles is a petty person. Big time
My guess … William refused to take over Harry’s role in the Marines
He was not offered it. The Queen wanted the Princess Royale for the position. So he leaked against Peter Philips.
No, I think William 100% would have taken it if offered. He was not offered it.
I honestly think the timing here was a result of the memoir, and that may sting, but I think Charles keeping it for himself is the LESSER ahole move here. I think giving it to William would have been the bigger ahole move.
Charles has so many honorary titles etc that this is just one more IMO.
My question is, if it was a title meant for monarchs, after her husband retired, why didn’t the Queen pass it on to Charles or William, the future kings. Why bypass them and give it to Harry when he would be nowhere near the iron throne. I think she was making a point, and my guess is that this was a sore point for Charles and he was bitter. Elizabeth was not close to Charles or William and this is him exacting his revenge.
Charles is a really bad father. And perhaps except for George does not have much to do with his grandchildren
The announcement was made on the birthday of the Royal Marines so I don’t know if this was timed with the book more the birthday. That said, the statement was all kinds of shade. It seems like they are going to try to “Diana” Harry. In the years after her death, before Harry and his brother could speak of her in the press on their own, the royal family tried to erase her from the record and not mention her. We all have seen how successful that has been. Like Diana, Harry will not go away quietly. They both are loved by the public not for just their positions, but for who they were/are. The rest of the family (and the press) know the remaining royals are only liked for the titles they hold. That’s why the press are clamoring for Harry to come back. They may try to hurt Harry, but as he says, his has taken his “blinkers” off and is not looking back. Harry is happy with his family and new life. It’s the royal family that are going to live with the shadow of both Diana and Harry in whatever they do.
This is no longer unsuprising. One misses the Queen, she was so much better at this job.
It seemed that Prince Harry was supposed to replace Prince Philip, after he was ordered to leave his position in the armed forces, by the time he married Meghan, the Queen was so impressed that she elevated their positions.
Harry had the Commonwealth Trust and armed forces, his grandparents ‘pet projects’ and excelled in those position. For Meghan – it was the Arts (Theatre), university, Commonwealth Trust and when she was placed with the German President on Remembrance Day observations.
Didn’t Camilla got the Theatre Patron? At the end of the day it is just envy?
These are the triggers that send the newly minted Wales and now exposed King Charles 3 over the edge.
He wanted to do this for a long time, was probably hoping that it would lure Harry back to be the designated mule and scapegoat, of which it would have become a means of control.
Harry did not bite. So he reacted as all gaslighters do.
He managed to erase his parents and son in one swoop.
All that ‘righteous’ anger couched in victimhood.
It is a just chance to retaliate, to strike out?
No wonder the book is called ‘Spare’ not ‘The Spare’.
@Well Wisher, I never, ever would have thought that before we’d even reached November, I’d be thinking, “Huh, maybe the Queen *was* actually pretty good at her job” (such as it is). Charles has managed to fck up on a near-daily basis during what’s supposed to be his “honeymoon period” or whatever. Guess it’s one of those things you can’t appreciate until it’s gone!
(For the record, I still think the monarchy is BS and that the Queen was, overall, a pretty awful person. But she did manage to…idk, contain things better than Charles seems able to.)
It’s a toss up of who is the worst father – Chucky or Toxic Tom.
KC3 is such a petty little bitch! He’s going to run the monarchy into the ground. He has spent his entire life preparing for this role and he’s just so inept.
I wonder “who” told Harry about this decision, before the official announcement was made? I think that a private secretary or other staff member made the call or sent the email because I don’t believe that Chuck is brave enough to pick up the phone and call his son himself.
Might have been Edward Young — he loaths Harry and Meghan and would take Machiavellian delight in conveying the bad news.
But it’s not bad news for Prince Harry, tho. Rmbr he told James Corden that “whatever they do on that side is up to them.”
And M said in The Cut that she’d lost her father in all of this but it doesn’t hv to be tht way for H and the Turd, but that “IT WAS UP TO THEM.”
What this tells me is tht H & the future of his and the Turd’s relationship has been a topic of discussion with H being prepared for whatever happens with that relationship.
Also, in one of her podcasts M made a point that the PROCESS of making a decision is often harder than the decision itself; that in trying to decide what course of action to take, you talk about it, you pray about it; and do every other agonizing thing until you just MAKE the decision and always, relief and acceptance follow in the wake of finally making a decision.
The point is, there’s absolutely NOTHING that anyone on the Isle-of-Left- Behind does that will surprise shock or hurt or in any other way affect the life that H&M are steadfastly building for themselves & their little family.
Chuck is making horrible decisions. I hope he doesn’t try to round up another pedophile like Jimmy Savile to give him suggestions.
For the life of me, I don’t know how this is hurtful to Harry or why it’s such a major story. It’s a title that couldn’t remain empty indefinitely. If it wasn’t Harry’s patronage I doubt it would have received so much attention.
I don’t think it’s a big story, but it’s the DM, so they have to have half a dozen negative articles about Harry every single day. So here we’ve got how sensitive Charles is to Harry’s feelings and a nod to Phillip who stoically stuck it out for 64 years and 201 days – not like Harry who fled the country after…I don’t know how many years and days…no doubt the DM will inform us.
King George V, George VI and Edward VIII are all previous monarchs. Charles III is the current one. Seems pretty consistent.
And Harry want this head of the Royal Marines role? Does he want to be considered? To be given the role? What does he want, when he’s in California?
Not sure what you’re talking about. Harry was given the role of captain general by the Queen and she took it away when he left the RF. Nobody is talking about Harry wanting it back. Maybe you’re thinking about the position of Counselor of State?
Just that with all the discussion how King Charles keeping the role of head of the Marines as a sign of his bad fatherhood… Or not acknowledging Philip or Harry in the press release of the announcement… I’m perplexed what the outrage is about, in the comments. Is King Charle being head of the Marines “sticking it to Harry”? I genuinely ask: Why? Did Harry want it?
@Pancake Bacon — I think this is Charles leaking this as a *big* story to make Harry embarrassed. It’s actually a non-story because the Queen took the role from him when he left the UK. Once again it’s Charles trying to punish Harry any way he can because this news comes hard on the heels of Harry’s book title and release date being made public. His childish tactics are so obvious.
Becuase it is ridiculous not to mention the two previous incumbents of the position, one of whom held it for more than half a century as well as them being his father and son. Not mentioning them during a period of public period strife is either stupid or calculated because it will absolutely make the press speculate. If he had mentioned both Harry and Philip (who are the only people that the members of the regiments knew and remember anyway) this story would be a complete nothing burger. But Charles is too petty for that. Now the story isn’t that he has a new ceremonial position but rather that he apparently has a grudge against both his father and son. Absolutely idiotic when he really cannot afford more familial turmoil in the press since that familial turmoil seem to become the solely defining trait of the Windsors public image.
Then I’m of the position that it’s possible to be looking into this too much. The announcement covered only the previous monarchs (which neither Philip or Harry are), and the rest of the fretting are just speculation, which I guess everyone is free to do so. I don’t think there’s much to this story, from my POV.
@Pancake Bacon, the only reason anyone is even “looking into this” at all is because the Fail is trying to claim it’s some huge snub directed at and aimed at humiliating Harry. And the majority of comments here are simply disagreeing, doubting that Harry even cares. 🤷🏻♀️
Why would Charles call Harry about this? They took it from him years ago. There was no possibility Charles would return it to him after QEII’s death. It makes sense for KC to take it over himself since there is precedent with former kings. Tbh, I’m thrilled it wasn’t given to William. Now, that would hurt Harry (probably not, but it would sting).
Actually @TheOriginalMia, maybe William IS why KC took this title. Otherwise KC would be the first male member not to have had it and if he had given the Captain General role to Ann, it probably would have either gone to William or one of William’s sons. KC is seriously petty; I could see him snagging this title more for that reason than to stick it to Harry.
Ah…that makes sense. KC is petty. I mean leaving Phillip out and only mentioning other monarchs? Petty.
Charles only has a few things left to remove from Harry. And then his power is gone.
Once the Sussex title is removed and the Prince/Princess titles are denied to the children….Harry is totally free.
And then the second book will get written. And it will hold back nothing!
Predicted Title: Harry
Despite how the media makes it seem Harry and Meghan will remain the Duke and Duchess of Sussex unless Parliament votes to remove the title. Charles only has control over the HRH and Prince part of the titles.
Lauren, there’s a bill in parliament to change this so that the Monarch can remove titles. It’ll be interesting what happens with this bill when it reaches the House of Lords.
@Saucy, any idea on the timeline as to when that bill makes it to the House of Lords? (Clueless American here!)
Because THAT will be the real story, imo, if Chuck actually manages to push that one through.
If the monarch can remove titles, can’t he control who’s in the House of Lords? And people claim Britain’s monarch has no political power.
I’m hoping his next book will be called Strike.
That’s Brilliant!!!! I was hoping for something like : Flames, but Strike is perfect!
If I didn’t know any better, I’d say that Harry is playing the royal family like a frakking fiddle.
Spare is still number 1 on Amazon UK. I can just imagine how panicked they are behind palace walls right now so all of these little petty stories just amuse me. At this point i doubt stuff like this gets to Harry as he’s had 2 years to deal with losing these military titles but it is amazing to me that Charles left his own father out of his statement on this.
Good king Harry stays classy and winning.
Charles the TURD stays salty and petty and vengeful
I find the naming of the book genius because in the UK, “going spare” can mean losing your shit with someone. (Usually used as “x is going to go spare!” About something).
This title was taken from Harry two years ago and he will have known it would be given to someone else. I think it’s less controversial for Charles to take it on rather than hand it to William.
However, I also think it was rather petty not to acknowledge Harry and Philip in the statement.
I think it’s the natural thing for Charles to assume the Marine position. By not mentioning his father and his son, he is dismissing them as less than he is- a king. The position remained vacant for two years. Perhaps that’s the deal Charles made with his mother- to leave it vacant until he is able to take it on. It seems, though, that Charles is starting his reign by taking away things bestowed by other monarchs- his grandchildren’s titles and his brother’s title, for example. Now he still has time to correct these things- acknowledge his grandchildren as prince and princess of the realm and his brother as the recreated Duke of Edinburgh. However, Charles has shown himself to be such a petty man, that these two things are still hanging in the balance. I have no doubt Charles knows what his duties are as sovereign, but he is such a failure in terms of character. There is no grace or magnanimity to him- so unkingly. Despite what one would think of the Queen in terms of her achievements as sovereign, she valued family and took care of her children and her relatives. Charles seems to be a bad father who does not seem to have any care for his children. What loving father would give so little care for their physical safety, let alone their emotional well-being? His “love” (whatever love is) for Camilla is wholly selfish, imo, as she seems to be necessary for his functioning as a human being.
I’m not excusing Charles. As Harry said, as a parent, wouldn’t you want something better for our own kids?
But I can’t imagine the fathering that Charles himself must have had — from the bullying Philip who forced Charles to stick it out for years at a school that was a cruelly horrendous fit, to the vileness of the manipulative Uncle Dickie. Emotional well-being and even some aspects of physical safety don’t seem like priorities for this family.
A decent person would have tried to make sure he could improve on the upbringing he had. Charles did not in fact he is petty and selfish and self centered and thinks himself center of the universe. Charles made his own choices but blames others.
Tampon Charlie has shown that there are no depths he won’t sink to sideline, harm, or humiliate Prince Harry. No matter what’s written in Harry’s book, Charlie will continue to be furious. Harry has already done the unthinkable by walking away from the RF. His book is probably viewed as something close to treason by the Firm. I suspect that Charles is contemplating an end to Harry’s wife and children, perhaps similar to what befell Diana. He might even be willing to destroy Harry. I don’t put such evil past Charles. His jealousy and contempt for his son is showing and things are bound to much worse. Harry married a biracial American for love and in leaving the Family, ripped back the curtain, showing the utter absurdity, uselessness, and hatefulness of that clan. Charles cannot allow Harry to live his best life. Tampon Charlie will spend the entirety of his short reign trying to one-up, discredit, and hurt Prince Harry.
Every time I see that unintentionally hilarious photo of Prince Harry, Powerful VIP surrounded by elderly bodyguards, it makes me think that Charles might be a weensy bit jealous of his charismatic second son. I could see this as a bitter old man’s attempt to get one up on his father and his son, who both earned respect in their military roles. Charles has never been seen that way, and maybe it stings.
Of course, the other way to see this is that Charles is unable or unwilling to delegate any roles to anyone, not even his sister Anne. Edward didn’t make it through basic training, so he wouldn’t be a good choice. They can’t and shouldn’t bring in Andrew. And Charles must know as well as anyone that William and Kate aren’t going to do jack. So, who’s left?
The “slimmed down” monarchy suddenly looks like slim pickings.
Lol, at some point the slimmed down monarchy becomes just the monarch.
That’s not rare.
In some countries with a hereditary head of state (i.e. in Asia, Africa, the Middle East), there is the situation that there is only one person in the role of monarch, emperor, sultan, sheik, etc., to carry the weight of the rol, no matter how big the family is.
In those cases, the supporting roles are appointed household/government staff/advisors/ servants, and/or military personnel. The only family member to play a role is the heir, which is not necessarily determined by birth order – in some cases, the person may be an appointee from the wider family, the military, etc.
@Jay, “weensy bit?” IMO that’s probably an understatement. I think every single member of that family is jealousAF of Harry because they all know that they could never be as successful as he’s been if they left.
Even if Charles might not admit it to himself—or at least not very often— Charles IS and has been trapped in that crappy system for his entire life, same for William.
Sure, Charles and William can convince themselves that because of their rank/titles, their sh!t doesn’t stink, but it must really sting to see Harry out there doing, saying, and living however he wants.
Not to mention that Harry gets more press every day than most of them do in a year (yes, a lot of it is negative— but the vast majority of the negative coverage comes from the British tabloids, not genuine, respectable, international publications. Charles sure isn’t out there winning awards for being influential by TIME magazine, lol; the most coverage he’s gotten in a while was when he threw a televised fit over a pen.).
They all must be bitterly jealous. And this fact warms my heart.
Also, Charles knows that in time, William will inherit the title as the new monarch, so no need to pass it on now. Harry has known for 2 years that his title would be passed on when he was stripped of the title by the Queen.
I feel like I’m the only one who doesn’t see why this is even really a story?
Charles is a petty little bitch; that we all knew. And I’m sure it hurt when the title was stripped from Harry two years ago, but he knew it would be filled eventually— why on earth would Charles call to tell him that in advance? (I feel like that part of the story is BS; I doubt Harry is even talking on the phone to any of his family members. But who knows.)
I agree with @Becks that it MIGHT have been slightly more hurtful to Harry if the title had been given to William because that would so obviously have been done purely out of spite — and Harry would know that William would do NOTHING with it — but Charles taking it for himself? Meh. Who really cares? I think Harry is at the point where he sees his father for who he is and doesn’t let his actions hurt him as badly as they once might have. And again, Harry knew the role would be filled again at some point, it wasn’t going to remain ignored forever, so it isn’t like this is some sort of surprise attack.
Yes, it was petty to leave Phillip and Harry out of the press release, but again, we’ve all known forever how petty Charles is. It’s basically his defining characteristic, lol. (And I feel like if I was some staunch royalist, the fact that he omitted Phillip is even *more* disrespectful, somehow?)
I’m more curious about why, if the Queen had specific wishes about who these honorary titles/honors/whatever went to, she didn’t give them out while she was still alive. Could she not have bestowed this upon Anne before she passed away?
Same with the DoE title…if what we’ve heard is correct, that the Queen “promised” that to Edward, is there a reason she couldn’t have just given it to him while she was still alive (after a respectable amount of time had passed after Phillip’s death, maybe after a full year or so)?
The Queen knew how petty Charles is, and while that woman was a lot of negative things, I don’t think completely stupid was one of them, and she had to have known there was a chance that Charles would not honor her wishes once she was gone, even if she’d made them clear to him.
Anyway, Harry lives in the real world now and has REAL job titles; he doesn’t need all of these made-up, nonsense “honors” and fake-ass, meaningless titles to define himself the way someone like Andrew does.
The photo in this post is still one of my favorites— Harry effortlessly commands all of the attention, while surrounded by his relatives looking like they’re wearing Halloween costumes. (I forget who said it on here, but that pic makes it look like they’re Harry’s bodyguards, and I still crack up whenever I remember reading that because it’s true.)
And at the end of the day, Harry is the member of the BRF who veterans respect the most and who does the most for veterans in return. Charles can drape himself in enough medals and gold braiding to topple him over, but nothing will change that. He will never have the respect of the troops or the veterans the way his son does.
(As for timing it with the news about the book…I honestly don’t know. I tend to think the BRF plans out eeeeeeeevery little thing super far in advance, so this was probably a done deal way before we learned about “Spare,” but again, who knows. The DM will certainly make it about the book’s timing and publish a million asinine articles about how “humiliating” this is for Harry, but idk.)
ETA Sorry this comment is so long (!) and @Jay, I lol’d when I saw you’d made the same “bodyguard” reference about the photo, after I’d finished typing this freaking dissertation.
The DoE title was automatically inherited by Charles, as his eldest son, when Phil died. It only reverted to the crown to be re-issued after Charles became king. And, as to leaving Phil out, royalists are using the excuse that he just named the monarchs. I wonder if just using the monarchs is to excuse himself from giving it to Anne.
@Equality, thank you. I can’t remember when or where we learned this, but hasn’t it been common knowledge for a while now that the Queen wanted the DoE title to pass to Edward?
So for all of the bitching from the BM about how the Sussexes are constantly “disrespecting Her Majesty!” it looks to me like Charles is the one blatantly disrespecting her, by disregarding her express wishes. Let’s see eleventy billion articles about *that.*
BP put out a statement when E&S got married that he would eventually get the title. Ed also took over the DoE awards so it would make sense. In an interview with the BBC in 2021, Ed said that it would depend on what KC wanted to do, so I think he knows C intends to be petty.
Me thinking: Charles has never learned how to be generous, to be a giver. He is just a calculated user/taker/abuser. He hits (back) at everybody who has/wants what he has put his hands/eyes on. The only person he cares for is his emotional enabler, the person who fulfil his pathetic needs (C). I don’t even know if that is love (they say it is).
To me, Charles is still that 5 year old abandoned child – neglected and not felt loved by his father and mother – who was left to be taken care for by his grandmother and uncle Mountbatten. Probable he has never worked to better himself. At his old age, I can’t see him as therapy material either.
@Blithe
LOL then don’t.
If the rest of us can stay hundreds of miles away & see tht charlesDaTurd could benefit from psychological help, then why can’t his minions make him see that & arrange some help for him.
The fact is, DaTurd has lived a petty, entitled, over-priveleged life for 75 years; has been a pisspoor father; and now a pisspoor monarch.
I for one am gonna sit back and enjoy this particular shidtshow.
@Kingston
I was going for a musingly reflective explanation rather than an excuse. I’ll try harder next time.
Enjoy!
Harry is involved with Mission Continues, Team Rubicon and the Invictus Games. I can’t help but feel that he had to choose between these three entities and honorary role(s), he would chose the hands on organizations. I believe it is something he feels very connected and is much like his service days.
I doubt anyone contacted Harry before Chuck’s announcement. Why would they? This has been in Harry’s review mirror for some time now. What he is doing with the Invictus Games and mental health for the military is what’s important to him, and probably to the Military, too. This is just a nonburger that the bm is writing up. I think Chuck keeping the honor himself was probably a decision that wouldn’t be as controversial as giving that honor to someone else. I’ll bet the Marines are just glad it wasn’t Fail.
Aww KC3 is displaying the ego that he’s always held. Edward is getting nothing..
@JRenee, I so don’t understand these people.
Charles is the KING. In their warped little world, no one “higher up” or “more important” than he is.
What skin is it off of his back to make Edward the DoE?! What’s the purpose of withholding it? Especially since everyone knows it was the Queen’s wish for Edward to have it?
If Charles wants to show how powerful and in control he is, we’re right back to: he’s already the. King.
FFS
It’s not enough for Chucky to be the most important. He has to be the only one who’s important at all, in any way. He feels that either he has everything or he has nothing.
This is one case where I don’t see a problem with what Charles has done. Before Elizabeth gave the gong to her husband as one of the things she did to make him feel all manly when he was grumbling about feeling emasculated, it was a position held by the monarch, so now the role is vacant I think it’s fine for Charles to claim it.
Harry was given the role after Philip’s death, but he gave up his claim to those ceremonial roles when he (quite reasonably IMO in the circumstances) resigned from his role as a working royal and the honorary fancy dress roles that come with it , so it was fine to take it from him. Harry might have been a serving officer and he carried out combat tours but he resigned from that gig so any military positions he thereafter held were purely honorary and once he ceased being a working royal he could no longer hold them, and I’m sure he knows that… and I doubt he gives a hoot.
The petty and vindictive part of me wants Harry to suddenly go to the COP27 conference in Cairo and make a big speech. But he is more used to this kind of crap from his father and it probably doesn’t even register on the scale anymore.
The silence from Team Sussex is deafening. This trying to hurt Harry, even through the totally unbiased media, is just making the entire royal family so cringe and unworthy. Chucky could have been magnanimous to other members of the RF, but NOPE. “It’s mine, it’s all minnnneeee”
Since Harry was stripped of this title over 2 years ago-he knew someone was going to fill it at some point-he probably did not know it was his father-but oh well good thing Harry had 2 years to get over it-now if King Charles would just get over it-I am glad that Harry Meghan get to pick and choose which projects and charities they want to do or be involved with-What ever the royal family plans or projects it is their choice they make the decisions-they should tell the media vultures to not include any discussions about what something is or isnot doing to Harry-move on UK-Harry and Meghan are moving on and letting the world know they are without calling any other royals by name to let them know this info-the inploding of the Uk media and the royal family’s constant bringing the Sussex names into situations that no longer involve them is called retardation-they are stunted in their growth because there is a lot of other things in the Uk they need to be worried about