Princess Kate wrote an inspirational note to female convicts, with no pushback at all

As we discussed yesterday, the Princess of Wales made a stop at Hope Street, a sort of halfway house center which will house women convicted of non-violent crimes. Yesterday, I called it a halfway house because I believed that the women being housed at this new facility were re-entering society after their prison sentences, and that this Hope Street house was designed to combat recidivism. I was wrong – this is meant as an alternative to jail or prison for women convicted of non-violent or minor crimes. It’s basically like house-arrest, with certain privileges (women can work, but they have a curfew) and they can be with their children, as opposed to having their children put into the state system. It’s an interesting system, and you can tell that the private donors who have built the arrangement are very proud of their work. Kate seemed very pleased with the facility too, which is why she left an “inspirational note” for the women:

Hope Street, which also boasts a creche and cafe, is the main hub of eleven centres in Hampshire. It is not a bail hostel but women can live there under curfews or bail arrangements.

The Princess of Wales left women living at a new justice centre a handwritten note saying “I see you and I am with you”.

The Princess, 41, opened the “inspirational” Hope Street in Southampton, which aims to keep women out of jail and united with their children. It is the first of its kind in the UK and is piloting a new approach to dealing with low-level female offenders.

On arrival, the Princess said: “Well done, it’s fantastic. I love the location as well as it’s not out on its own, it’s in the community in many senses.”

She was shown round one of the plush fully-fitted eight flats in the development – which cost £7million from private money and donors – and which opened on Tuesday.

“Gosh, look at this,” she exclaimed. “It’s aspirational.”

The Princess pinned her note to a tree. Written on green card in black ink, it said: “I see you and I am with you. Good luck in all that lies ahead. Catherine.”

[From The Telegraph]

First of all, did Kate really call this “aspirational”?? Surely she meant…inspirational. As for the note… well, the Sussex Squad did not fight in the Banana Wars of 2019 to see Kate just waltz into a posh halfway house and copy Meghan’s whole deal. For those who don’t remember the Banana Wars of 2019, it was during Meghan’s pregnancy with Archie. Meg and Harry visited a charity called One25, which deals with homeless women, sex workers, women who have fallen through the cracks of society. One25 gives out care packages, packages which include food and hygiene products. Meghan decided to write simple affirmations on the bananas in the care packages – stuff like “You are loved” and “you are brave.” Meghan was ripped to shreds in the British media and she was widely condemned by the royal rota. But I bet it’s all white when Kate writes “I see you and I am with you.”

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  1. Laalaa says:

    I’m sorry, but if I got a banana with an INspirational message, I would find it condescending.
    As I find this Kate visit, but the people in the photos for once seem pleased by the visit.

    • Tessa says:

      If Kate did the same re messages in bananas she would have been praised. Meghan was slammed by media no matter what.

      • SquiddusMaximus says:

        Catherine would NEVER! She would write her sentiments on a blueberry, because blue is her signature color and it represents rebirth. And how much she loves children, and Olds, and is really the keenest she has ever been as the royal family’s secret blueberry weapon.

    • aimee says:

      ^ditto. both are empty gestures. one is written on food for adults…who have been through horrible scenarios. adults who’ve gone through trauma don’t need inspirational messages like “you are loved” written on fruit… catherine’s seems just one tiny tiny bit less condescending bc it’s on a note on a tree where ppl can choose to read it or not. but still the gesture is stupid and this is just a visit to bolster her reputation and not the institution.

      • Amy Bee says:

        @aimee: Why is Kate’s less condescending because it was on a tree? That’s weird.

      • BeanieBean says:

        I think she was asked to leave a note on the tree. Others have. I’ve seen this kind of thing in a lot of places, usually museums.

      • Megan says:

        Rich people writing notes of encouragement to poor people is an empty gesture. Kate doing so was every bit as cringey as when Meghan did it.

      • aimee says:

        i think both are condescending. i’m saying kate’s is a tiny tiny tiny bit less bc she wrote it on a piece of paper (a normal method of communication for adults…) and hung it on a tree where people can totally choose to ignore any dumb message from her. whereas meghan wrote with a sharpie on a piece of fruit that ppl may want to eat? that is something parents do for children…would have been way less cringe to find a piece of paper to write on? not that hard.

      • Ginger says:

        The signature is different from the message, it looks like it was pre written. Kate just signed it which makes it worse. Empty gestures.

      • Nic919 says:

        Either both are condescending messages from rich girls or they aren’t. And Meghan did hers in a spontaneous way whereas kate did it for PR. Pretty easy to see which one was more sincere in writing the message. Hint it wasn’t kate.

      • aimee says:

        @Nic919. both are condescending messages written by rich girls. kate will never go back to that organization again and wrote empty message for PR. the same for meghan. both wrote these as gestures of goodwill that are likely mostly for their benefit.

    • girl_ninja says:

      Whatever dude. One woman is as sincere in their note and it wasn’t Kate.

    • equality says:

      I guess, I figure, not everything is about me and what I would find condescending, etc. If just one of the people who received either type message, was encouraged by it then it served a purpose whatever the sincerity of the writer.

    • Jais says:

      Whether a person finds the messages meaningful or patronizing is really not the issue here. The issue is the reaction of the press. Unless there are as many articles slamming Kate over this as there were for Meghan, then we’re looking at just another example of the media smearing Meghan over nothing while not saying a peep about Kate doing the same. That’s the issue.

      • equality says:

        I guess, I would find the media treating both women with respect to be more satisfying. Not slamming any woman would be a better goal.

      • Jais says:

        Yes, that would be the better outcome

    • Harla A Brazen Hussy says:

      As a young woman I did live on the streets and did have sex in exchange for lodging and food, at that time I would have been greatly moved to have felt seen as something more than a talking sex doll.

      • Lady D says:

        I think you’re a sarcastically hilarious poster and you give off a warm and giving person vibe. I’m glad you survived your time on the streets, it couldn’t have been easy.

      • Harla A Brazen Hussy says:

        Awwww🥹. Thanks Lady D, you’ve made my day❤️❤️

      • Nicegirl says:

        🖖 💕

      • Doppelgangers R'Us says:

        @HARLA A BRAZEN HUSSY
        I have a great deal of empathy with you there. I also survived a season of my life on the streets. For me the military was my ticket out.
        Survival of the streets is truly overcoming great odds and worthy of honor.
        Hugs to you. I also enjoy your posts and insights.

    • Bean says:

      Is that her handwriting? The signature is completely different.

      • Anne says:

        @Bean — I noticed that, too. I don’t think she wrote that message. I think that card was pre-written and she just signed it, which makes it even worse. Also, the fact that the message was grammatically correct/spelled correctly and written with an empathetic sentiment is a dead giveaway that she didn’t write it.

    • Lily says:

      Sorry Meghan, but even your husband visibly cringed when you asked for that Sharpie.

      You were being 100% Californian so I get what you were doing as a fellow native Californian, but some things just don’t translate overseas.

  2. Lolo86lf says:

    Poor Meghan. All of the abuse she’s had to endure from the British media for years now. So glad she is thousands of miles away from England.

  3. Jazz Hands says:

    I’m waiting for the hand-writing experts to chime in with insight on what her signature reveals (looped ‘t’ and both the ‘t’ and the ‘h’ are crossed).

    • Rapunzel says:

      The “all” looks like “ill”

    • Mary Pester says:

      @jazzhands, yep it will be along the lines of “, Kates handwriting shows that she is still listening and learning, to write with a pen 😂, but has still to learn how not to be condescending!!

    • Noo says:

      I find it so interesting how different her signature is from her normal cursive handwriting. It’s clear her signature is a completely constructed thing, with little to no relationship to her normal handwriting.

  4. Amy Bee says:

    It’s interesting that the Telegraph royal reporter pointed out the double standard. I wonder what she was trying to do here.

    • Amie says:

      She was trolling MM. She wanted people to slag off on MM and there was quite a bit of that. I’m sure she was delighted.

      • Amy Bee says:

        I still found it was strange that she pointed out the double standard. Usually the royal rota pretend that they don’t see it and heap praise on Kate as if Meghan didn’t it before her.

  5. equality says:

    So commit a crime and get a posh place to live that you don’t have to pay for? And why is it seen as more important to keep women with their children, but nothing similar for men? Are they all single mothers and the fathers can’t take custody while the mom is incarcerated or do they live with their moms away from their fathers during this? To me ankle monitors and staying in their regular home with monitoring and a parole officer would make more sense and be less expensive.

    • Amanda says:

      A term of house arrest requires a fixed address. If an underhoused woman commits a non-violent crime for which house arrest is appropriate, this option allows that person to remain with her children and work towards rehabilitation in the community. It’s an important solution to a systemic problem – otherwise house arrest is only available for those privileged enough to have a home. There are similar programs for men.

      I also find it interesting when people attack programs directed at assisting women by asking why it’s not being done for men. I highly doubt that alternative sentencing options for men were high on your priority radar before reading this article. Is this a cause you have advocated for in relation to helping men, or is this just preformative outrage because men aren’t the focus of this particular program?

      • Becks1 says:

        That’s a good point about women being underhoused, I didn’t think of that. House arrest doesnt work if they don’t have a house/place to live.

      • equality says:

        You have a point if the women do lack housing and present fathers for the children. Otherwise why not keep a family unit together? I didn’t “attack” the program, I raised issues. Are you always this defensive? And, yes, alternative sentencing for either sex has been on my “radar”.

      • SquiddusMaximus says:

        Extremely well said, Amanda. Functional and positive community integration is so important to rehabilitation. Punitive isolation is not a cure. But it sounds like Equality just wants more people punished, regardless of outcome or the net benefit to society.

      • equality says:

        @Squiddus Where the H did I say I wanted more people punished? Some of you need to check your defensive mechanisms at the door.

      • mmarkle says:

        If we could upvote comments, I’d upvote this one. Thank you for laying this out in such simplistic, yet deeply educational terms in response to such a callous, uncaring comment. And obviously, if the women qualify to be there with their children, they are likely single mothers with no one else to care for their kids, otherwise they’d likely be with their dads, under kinship care, or placed into foster care — which, as a former foster kid who grew up with a front row seat to the system, is not always a preferable option.

        And “commit a crime and get a posh place to live that you don’t have to pay for” is, in fact, an attack on the program. People commit crimes for all types of reasons, especially women who would qualify for a program like this. They’re the ones who need the most compassion and support, to not only reduce recidivism but to set them on a path to betterment. Many non-violent crimes are committed out of desperation due to a lack of resources. Nobody is saying that it’s okay or that they shouldn’t receive consequences, but it’s unfair to paint them all with such a broad and judgemental brush.

    • Josephine says:

      at least in the US, the crimes women tend to commit are drug trafficking, very often at the behest of men. and they write a lot of bad checks. those are perhaps the types of crimes that something other than prison is called for. not all who commit crimes are evil people – some are just caught in really terrible, abusive situations. as for staying at home, the point may well be to separate them from the abusive situation.

      • Anna says:

        I think the point is to take those women out of their regular environment, which is probably often toxic and not supporting getting back on track.

    • bisynaptic says:

      Because women/mothers are almost always the primary caretakers of children and being separated from their mothers is tremendously disruptive to children’s’ development.

    • Bee says:

      I doubt it is “posh” unless they’ve been living in their car. Living in a place like that is not a life of luxury and no one wants to live there unless they’re coming from someplace far worse. Even then, they no doubt have many rules and controls on their lives and activities.

      Programs like this help people not become worse criminals. These are nonviolent offenses. Sending nonviolent people to prison is a bad idea. Afterwards they are traumatized and have fewer options, and don’t fit in as well. Prison changes people. Usually not in a good way. Separating the kids causes trauma to both kids and moms.

      Actual posh people would never wind up here. I want to snark on your username but I will refrain.

  6. Becks1 says:

    This project seems like a good idea. Like @equality said above, I am not clear as to how or why this is preferable to women staying in their own homes with ankle monitors and parole officers – is this potentially cheaper and easier to manage than that? More of a support system so the women don’t re-offend?

    As for Kate’s note, whatever. Meaningless. she’ll be back to this place in 5 years or something and act shocked that her note didn’t change lives.

    • aimee says:

      i can honestly see both sides. sure it may be cheaper to do home ankle monitoring, but that’s assuming everyone has a safe, stable home to complete the sentence in. and i’d imagine there’s a lot of benefit from being in a location where there are support/programs dedicated to prevent recidivism. i feel like a lot of prison systems are all based on punitive and not rehabilitative, and i think looking at alternative systems is not a bad idea. this may be effective and i don’t see why it can’t be trialed. especially if it decreases recidivism, which will save money for the system in the long run.

    • Enis says:

      Many women arrested for low-level crimes are homeless or in unsafe living situations.

    • Nic919 says:

      More thought has been put into these comments than Kate will ever do about the purpose of this project. This was a PR exercice for her which also doubles as a way to score favours with Lady Edwina Grosvenor, sister to the very right Duke of Westminster.

    • Lily says:

      From what I understand these women may not have a stable address to call home and serve their sentences. Normally, these women would have to go to prison because they lack a stable address to call home, which would necessitate the separation from their children, who cannot follow them into prison. This alternative keeps women and their children together.

      I like this kind of targeted charity that fills a gap in the system.

  7. SussexWatcher says:

    I think Keen meant to write:
    I see you (as I cross to the street to avoid you). And I am with you (for 30 minutes so I can get a photo op…then I’ll never think of you again).

    Interesting to me that there’s not a peep from the RRs when Keen and Peggy are doing engagements on the same day as king chuckles. Or that Keen would dare to do anything housing-related on Peggy’s big day. I guess it was all hands on deck to distract from closing arguments in Harry’s court case?

    • Dr Mrs The Monarch says:

      I agree about the “I see you” part. I thought the “I am with you” was about how she feels like a prisoner in her own marriage? Is she trying to start the “Kate’s Great Escape!” narrative? Or would she be copying H&M too much?

  8. Carol Mengel says:

    Oh Kate, trying to use those big words again. It’s inspirational darling girl.

  9. Jais says:

    Man, the banana wars are just a reminder of how unhinged the media was treating a pregnant woman. Nothing Meghan ever did warranted what she went through. So yeah, Kate writing cute messages with no media pushback leaves a bitter taste.

    • Tessa says:

      The media did not leave Meghan alone even during her maternity leave. The media accused her of changing the ring harry gave her and days were spent criticizing her. Harry had to speak up and say he redesigned the ring adding gems to it. The media nastiness got that petty.

      • IRONE says:

        @Tessa Harry did not speak publicly/ defend Meghan until October 2019.

      • Tessa says:

        I do remember that there was a denial about it and it became know harry redesigned the ring so ringate ended after a few days. I remember reading news that harry redesigned it so Harry must have made it known one way or another

    • IRONE says:

      @Tessa It was not an official denial, but rather “sources” from Omid Scobie.

      • Nerd says:

        We know that any official statement from Harry was avoided in the royal households. There were daily attacks towards Meghan and it would be impossible to fight every attack with a statement from Harry who didn’t have a supporting family or communications team.

  10. Harper says:

    Who is Catherine? I imagine that will be the most common reaction to the note. Note to Willy: These folks raised 7 million to house these women; something similar could be done for the homeless.

    • Tessa says:

      William is too much concerned about self promotion

    • Ginger says:

      I wonder if Catherine had to copy that note from a note card? I don’t think she can do anything without a notecard. Her gestures are always empty.

    • Christine says:

      I laughed SO HARD that this place cost 4 million more than Willnot has pledged to “end” homelessness. Gah, these utter clowns.

  11. kirk says:

    So Kitty’s project involves a £7million development of 8-flats for women needing curfew housing. Yet Willy is going to solve homelessness with £3million investment spread across 6 UK cities? Hmmm.

    I hope at least some of the women feel better after receiving messages of support in either case, regardless of the sincerity (or race) of the sender.

    • ales says:

      It is not Khates project never has been, it was founded by Lady Edwina Grosvenor who is totally involved. Khate was only there for the photos, not to help or donate.

      • kirk says:

        So the project visited by Kitty and publicized by The Telegraph, cost £7million, provided by Lady Edwina Grosvenor and donors, to build 8-flats to house women. Yet Willy is going to solve homelessness with £3million investment spread across 6 UK cities? Hmmm.

    • Lily says:

      It isn’t Kate’s project. It is Lady Edwina’s project.

      Kate is just popping in giving herself and the project some publicity.

      Lady Edwina also runs the Clink restaurant which gives food service skills to women in prison. They serve food to the general public and participate in all aspects of the restaurant.

      I like that Lady Edwina comes up with targeted solutions to problems. You can look up a video on the Clink online.

  12. CC says:

    At least, unlike Andrew, she didn’t call it “perspirational.”

  13. Seraphina says:

    I think she meant the word she chose. At first I was like, WTH is that supposed to mean. The definition I found was: It can also mean wanting very much to achieve success in your career or to improve your social status and standard of living. Yeah, Kate meant it for improving one’s social status and standard of living – that’s what Kate did no matter what the costs, so why wouldn’t everyone be focused on that???

  14. Unblinkered says:

    Because she’s so false it was all horribly condescending. Sorry, but it was.

    Good luck to the professionals themselves involved with Hope Street, and it should be a great success.

  15. Blithe says:

    Eh. I can go with “aspirational” in that it would be great to be a part of cultures, governments, and other social systems that genuinely sought to provide support, rehabilitation, and genuine resources to people and families like those that this program enrolls. Who knows what Kate actually meant though, but from the description, I can go with both “aspirational” and “inspirational”. I’m genuinely inspired by this post to learn more about this program, the women and families that it serves, and their outcome data.

  16. AnneL says:

    I guess I’m just not a note writer, but both attempts seem a little corny to me. Writing “you are loved” on a banana seems like something a parent might do while packing a kid’s lunch. Kate’s note on what looks like a crafty Xmas gift tag is not much better.

    But that’s not really the point. They both left well-intentioned messages to women going through difficult times. Meghan got dragged in the press for it and Kate didn’t. Cheesy though they might be, the notes were at worst harmless. It’s the double standard that rankles.

  17. Connie says:

    They never reported the increase donation they received. It was the first time they had gotten international attention. The had to setup an international site to convert the money. Jamaica and America showed out!

  18. Beverley says:

    Of course, as Kaiser said, it’s all white that Kkkhate wrote her note, but all hell broke loose when Meghan did so. WOC, especially Black women are unfortunately accustomed to being dragged for the same things white women are praised for. We have countless receipts in Meghan’s case. Nothing ever changes. We all know why.

  19. QuiteContrary says:

    Kate said, “I love the location as well as it’s not out on its own, it’s in the community in many senses.”

    It’s either in the community or it’s not. It’s not in the community “in many senses.” Her blather is just embarrassing.

    • BeanieBean says:

      Yeah, I wasn’t sure where she was going with the ‘in many senses’. She’s just not good at basic communication.

    • Nic919 says:

      For Kate some locations are low class and therefore “not part of her community”. That’s what she was saying without realizing it. Kate has never been to the poor parts of London unless there was a dance club there and William was going.

  20. Lizzie says:

    I’ve seen mumbles speak, so unless we see a video, I will never believe Kate quotes. Nope, her staff handed those out, probably before the event.

  21. BeanieBean says:

    Oof. ‘Aspirational’. So much for that fancy, expensive education.

  22. En says:

    “I see you and I am with you.” Sounds like Meghan in SA…

    • kelleybelle says:

      Of course it does. They can’t do one original thing on their own. The jazz hands are out big-time but the eyes remain blank and lightless.

  23. Sarah B. says:

    I am waiting for all the morning talk shows, Royal Rota, Dan Wootton and Piers Morgan to discuss this over and over like they did with the banana message. It was horrible how they turn Meghan’s gesture into a full blown smear campaign. She couldn’t catch a break during her pregnancy. I am so glad that she got to enjoy Lili’ s pregnancy in peace but I can’t help but feel bad that her first pregnancy was ruined by the BM.

  24. Nerd says:

    I don’t think that writing a quick note letting someone who is in a difficult and challenging situation know that they are seen and they have value is condescending. I found it was a gesture that a genuinely kind person who has a love for expressing oneself through words of encouragement in notes and letters like Meghan attempted to let these women who were sadly treated as less than would hopefully see as a sign that they and their value are seen. The only thing I thought was condescending was the reaction as if someone going through a difficult time, no matter how difficult it might be, would t need to be valued just as much as anyone else. I find it condescending that a woman who has been in a role for 12 years has never made the effort to “see” any of these people before when that is the role she stalked a man for over twenty years. Sincerity is important in everything that you do and Meghan has been writing letters and notes to people since childhood through whatever hardships they may be experiencing, and that to me is what makes the little notes from her meaningful and heartfelt.

    It is interesting that in 12 years “Catherine” has started making her signed notes part of her engagements. Even more interesting and enlightening that she hasn’t been concerned about backlash for going against protocol by signing her name, in the same way Meghan was bullied and degraded. I’m curious why she chose a piece of paper to sign and be placed on a tree in the elements as a sign that she “sees” them instead of something more permanent to be seen by all women using this housing option, now and in the future. It seems so shortsighted and as usual just for the quick PR and photos. Always a missed opportunity with her.

  25. jferber says:

    If she were really with them, she’d be in jail with them. Maybe that would change her perspective?

  26. La Cienega says:

    “Aspirational”. Are you kidding me. She said that about a halfway house. That word does not mean what she thinks it means.

  27. HeatherC says:

    The bar is so low for this can’t put a foot wrong woman that I was a bit impressed all the words appear to be spelled right.

    Then again, that can be proof she didnt write it.

  28. Janice Hill says:

    In two words, Kate writes the letter el in both a capital letter and lower case letter when neither should capitalized. One is “luck,” which is correct. The other word is capitalized when it shouldn’t be. The word is ‘Lies.”