Joe Manganiello ended his marriage because he wanted to be a dad

When Joe Manganiello and Sofia Vergara’s split was first announced this week, my first instinct/guess was “I wonder if this was about kids.” Sofia was a young mother – her son Manolo is already 31 years old. She has repeatedly expressed her lack of desire to do any of that again. Considering all of the crap she went through with Nick Loeb, I always assumed she put her cards on the table with Joe and let him know that she had no interest in having another kid.

Well, as TMZ reported, Joe was the one to file for divorce. His lawyer is Laura Wasser, there’s a prenup in place and neither party seems interested in contesting it. I would imagine there will be a minor fight over real estate, but overall this will probably be a pretty cut-and-dry divorce. At the end of TMZ’s piece, they noted: “Speaking of kids, we’re hearing a big reason Joe has filed is their conflict over having children — he wants them, she does not.” Page Six’s source said the same thing:

Joe Manganiello chose to end his seven-year marriage to Sofía Vergara because they disagreed on the topic of children, Page Six has learned. A source close to the “True Blood” star, 46, tells us he’s always wanted to be a dad and that those feelings have only intensified in recent years.

It’s unclear where Vergara, 51, stood on the subject when the two said “I do” in November 2015, but we’re told she may have been open to it at the time. The “Modern Family” star is already mom to 31-year-old son Manolo, whom she shares with her ex-husband, Joe Gonzalez.

She was also dragged into a lengthy court battle over custody of two frozen embryos from her 2013 IVF treatments with then-fiancé Nick Loeb, who sought to bring them to term. Though a judge ultimately ruled in the actress’ favor in March 2021, we’re told the experience may have affected her view on having more kids.

Our insider tells us this disparity in the estranged couple’s relationship is the real reason for the split, noting that the “irreconcilable differences” Manganiello cited in his divorce petition – which he filed Wednesday – is accurate. Despite reports claiming the actor’s longtime sobriety negatively impacted the marriage, our source does not believe that to be the case.

[From Page Six]

In case you’ve blocked out the Nick Loeb saga, that a–hole kept dragging Sofia into court for years after she broke off their engagement. Loeb wanted “custody” of the embryos they created while they were together – he wanted to implant the embryos into another woman and raise Sofia’s biological children as a single father. It was truly bonkers. Loeb’s other aim was to be a nuisance, a thorn in Sofia’s side, and attempt to do damage to her marriage to Joe. If Sofia was originally open to having a kid with Joe, and then the Loeb stuff affected her, I don’t really blame her. Although, as I said at the beginning of the post, I kind of think Sofia was always done with having kids. That’s her right. And Joe can change his mind too.

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  1. Roo says:

    I’m sorry this relationship did not work out for them. I liked them together. I hope they can find happiness and joy in their lives as they move forward.

    I did hear that that creep Loeb already made some statement about the embryos. Ugh. He’s married with kids but won’t let it go.

    • Lady D says:

      That thing is raising a kid? Oh dear Lord that’s sick. I gotta find out who would marry him. brb
      Holy crap he’s beyond loaded. The scion of three different enterprises, American Steel, a giant brokerage and a global financial services business. It makes it hard to believe he didn’t win in court, especially against a non-white woman. I’m flabbergasted.

      • AllBlackEverything says:

        Sofia is WHITE. Latina is not a race. She is ethnically Polish and culturally Latina.

      • Cutie says:

        Sofia has no polish blood. She’s Spanish, Italian and Venezuelan which means European and Venezuelan is a nationality of questionable origin. Anyone from Spain and Italy are mixed with questionable DNA inherited from the Moors (racially black from Africa). As we all know southern Europeans do not look like Swedes or Scandinavians who are considered pure white.

      • JesMa says:

        She is Colombian, not Venezuelan. Most Colombians are a mix of European with indigenous and/or African blood.

    • Moxylady says:

      After the whole Harry and Megan and “sources” – I am viewing celebrity gossip like this very very differently.

      Is this really coming from him? Is it speculation by the tabloids? Completely made up online speculation that gained traction and a way into the mainstream gossip market? Are his “friends” hoping for a payday and just talking shit?

      I have been trying to be more critical of sources of gossip and trying to parse who actually is behind what.

      Does he deserve the benefit of that doubt? I don’t know! I’m just traumatized but what H&M went through and for things like this – that started quietly and small and then exploded, I wonder where it’s truly coming from.

      Joe might be a scum. I don’t know.

      • BlueNailsBetty says:

        @MoxyLady I completely agree with all of this. However, in this case, since he hasn’t put out a statement saying refuting these stories I lean towards his (possibly tacit) approval of them.

        The Sussexes have flat out said “no one speaks for either of us.” Joe is saying nothing and letting the stories stand.

      • Normades says:

        Completely agree Moxylady. Joe might want kids but this is TMZ, team toxic masculinity that will always push these kinds of narratives.

  2. Ameerah M says:

    There are no bad guys in this situation. Sometimes it just bees like that.

    • North of Boston says:

      Agree – no bad guys as far as Joe and Sofia are concerned

      However, both Loeb and whatever “friend” dropped the comment about “of course the fact that Sofia is not sober had an impact on their marriage” kicking off trash articles about her partying and wild lifestyle are on a bad guy list IMO.

    • bananapanda says:

      This reminds me of the Josh Duhamel / Fergie split. He apparently wanted more kids and she was content with one. He’s since remarried.

      Joe is good friends with Matt Bomer – they went to college together. I wonder if he saw Matt’s stable marriage and kids with a little jealousy.

  3. Josephine says:

    It’s a heartbreaking reason to end a marriage but not an issue in which a compromise can be made. Hopefully they each move on to the lives they want.

    • May says:

      I don’t know about that. A compromise that might work is to foster kids, even on a temporary basis. It seems a shame that fostering or adopting older children isn’t often seen as an alternative in situations like these.

      • Kitten says:

        If she doesn’t want to raise any more kids then fostering isn’t a compromise, it’s actually just him getting what he wants.

      • Concern Fae says:

        Fostering children is having children.

      • Jennifer says:

        Well, if he wants “his own” kids, then it gets into weird territory.

        I note that a few TV shows (Cougar Town, Jane the Virgin come to mind) solved this problem by oh, having the guy inseminate someone else and have a kid with them and then be with their no-more-kids woman. You don’t hear of that coming up IRL though.

        I hate that the inevitable kids thing broke them up though. It’s sad.

      • GamerGrrl says:

        Adopting or fostering kids – even older kids – is still parenting. It’s not about not wanting a baby. She’s done raising kids. This is a conversation more people should have before getting serious (not married, but when you’re starting to see this as a long-term thing…)

      • Josephine says:

        kids who are adopted or fostered deserve parents who are totally devoted to the task, not someone who is doing it as a compromise.

      • teecee says:

        I also think fostering kids when both parents are famous and have jobs that take them away a lot of the time might not be the best idea.

    • Lizzie says:

      So, it’s no longer because she is not sober?

      • Jaded says:

        It’s got nothing to do with her not being sober. She’s a hard-working, successful woman who enjoys a social drink and doesn’t want children in her life, but he’s decided he does. They clearly came to an impasse and agreed to part ways.

      • DK says:

        @Jaded, I think Lizzie is referring to the fact that just like, two days ago, his camp was saying that it was because he’s sober and Sofia is not.

        It is a little odd that today there is an entirely different reason being touted.

        It suggests this will be a lot messier than was originally predicted, since he’s definitely working to get his side out to the public – before, apparently, he’s even decided what “his side” should be.

      • Tiffany:) says:

        Just because tabloids publish a take, it doesn’t mean it is coming from a “camp”. They regularly invent things, it’s not a crime in the US. When a couple breaks up, the tabloids speculate and present it as an inside scoop.

    • Elizabeth Phillips says:

      I wonder whether this is related to what he learned on Finding Your Roots. I got the impression during the show that he had felt some shame about what he had believed and that his feelings changed after learning the truth about his family.

  4. girl_ninja says:

    I’m really not like all the chatter coming from Joe’s camp. He sounds like he’s putting all the blame on Sophia and that doesn’t seem fair. Did they talk about having children before they married? If not, I hope he learns his lesson with his next relationship. I swear I will be really disappointed if we find out in like 2 months Joe has a pregnant girlfriend and they’re happily awaiting their baby.

    • BlueNailsBetty says:

      Right? I don’t understand Joe’s need to get these articles out there. Unless there is an abuse situation both parties need to shut up and move on.

      • BlueNailsBetty says:

        Addendum (too late to edit original post): I’m starting to think I totally misread Joe. Sofía is staying silent and just living her best life while he’s coming across as a giant whiny baby. It’s starting to come off with “man who was told no and now wants to punish the woman” vibes.


      • Coco says:

        Yes his team is putting out so many stories to make her the “bad guy” and him the victim all while she says nothing.

      • Glamarazzi says:

        I’m with you, BlueNailsBetty. I was feeling so sad for both of them and now with this stream of negativity coming from his camp, I’m starting to be grossed out by him. His team needs to pipe down.

    • Jennifer says:

      You’d think given how old she was when they got together, that it would have oh, occurred to him earlier having babies wasn’t an option? What the heck, dude?

      • Jaded says:

        Lots of women have babies when they’re in their early/mid forties. I imagine she made it clear when they married that having kids was not on her agenda and he was OK with it, until he wasn’t.

      • Tamra says:

        Exactly! Why didn’t he marry someone younger in the first place?!

    • Elizabeth Phillips says:

      @girl-ninja, I’ll be really surprised if we DON’T find out he has a pregnant girlfriend.

    • RoyalBlue says:

      @girl_ninja, yes, I am waiting for the news that he has a much younger girlfriend who will be having his babies. rolling my eyes at him.

    • Moxylady says:

      The drinking was pure speculation by a number of online gossip groups and gained traction.

      I think he’s releasing this to say – no it wasn’t about alcohol or drugs. Just after this amount of time we find ourselves in a place we didn’t foresee and as such have decided to part ways.
      It sucks but it’s understandable.

    • Aurora says:

      All we know from themselves is he filed for divorce. How can we tell if his people or even her people has something to do with what we’re hearing now? For all we know, it can be made up or picked from someone who’s drawing conclusions from isolated events or comments. Or knowing (guessing?) that alcohol & sobriety were things on which they had opposite views. Or just someone who dislikes Sofia and wants to portray her under a not-so-good light. The fact this person is “close” means nothing. (What do we really know about people who surround us) Tomorrow, we’ll hear the inevitable version of Sofia being ‘insecure with age’ or ‘too Hollywood’ for Joe’s ‘cool’ geekiness. And so…
      In any case… What’s wrong with Joe making an honest decision that would allow both of them to freely pursue what they wish?

    • PixiePaperdoll says:

      If he really wanted kids then maybe it’s not a good idea to marry an older woman when he was already 39. Besides, I’m sure Manolo is present 24/7 and he’s technically a step son.

  5. marialopa says:

    I think initally she wanted it because during modern family her character had little joe and she seems obsessed with that baby. After some times it changes and her interaction with that kid too change. Maybe with her crazy ex she might close the door forever.

    This is also lesson for anyone jumping one to next. You need to heal and take time alone to reflect and have clear head to make decision.

  6. Ciotog says:

    Kinda weird to marry a woman in her 40s and expect kids to happen. Even with IVF it is a lot harder–most of the celebrity moms pregnant in their 40s and 50s would have to use donor eggs.

    • Josephine says:

      Or he came to realize later that he wanted kids. It happens. And it’s not like adoption or a surrogate were not options for them.

      • FHMom says:

        I agree with this. I doubt it’s over kids. That said, I would t be surprised if his next gf is in her 30’s and fertile

      • Megan says:

        I wouldn’t be surprised if his next girlfriend is in her 20’s. He’s having a mid-life crisis and questioning all of his choices. He will decide the answer is to “sow his wild oats.”

      • Carolnr says:

        @ Josephine
        I believe Sophia thought about having a child with Joe. She even mentioned about having babies with him when she was being interviewed in the past.
        I think after Modern Family ended, Joe thought that she would be ready to have children. Instead, she was really focused on her career & living a lavish lifestyle. After Joe did FYR, i think he realized that his legacy ended with him & probably made him really want to have a child/ children. I also believe that they both realized that they were not the same people as they were when they got married & the topic of children was just one of the many issues in their marriage…

    • Amy Bee says:

      I’m sure he was open to adoption.

      • Ciotog says:

        Maybe he was, but many people are not, they want a child who is biologically connected to them. And that’s next to impossible for a woman who is 44, her age when they married.

  7. Tree says:

    It was said years ago he wanted kids. Seems like he thought he could bury that feeling.

    The Jon hamm thing had a lot of people rethinking their lives. When him and Jennifer broke up that was a big deal everywhere.

    It was said he wanted marriage and kids with Jennifer but she didn’t want that. Then they broke up and Jon scrambled to find someone. Now Jon is older starting completely over.

  8. HeyKay says:

    This breakup makes me a little sad.
    I was rooting for them.
    I hope they both go on to find happiness.

    It makes me uneasy to think of a man nearing 50 who wants kids as the primary motive for his next relationship.

    • Hello Kitty says:

      Why? He might have loved her so much that he thought he’d be happy either way, and as he got older realized he really wanted to be a father. For all we know they both could have agreed to marry, leave the subject of kids open, and as they grew older she realized she didn’t want kids and he realized they did. Plus 46 is not too old to have children, my husband is 46 and we are expecting our third baby in four years in September. If Joe wants kids it stands to reason he will date/marry a woman in her 20s or 30s to accomplish that goal. I really don’t see the problem with that?

      • EM says:

        My husband was 46 when we had our first, and he is a super dedicated hands-on dad. He thought the chance to have kids might have passed him by, and his was thrilled to have them. His parents are in their eighties, and hopefully he will also live that long. But hey, my mom had me at 25 and still died when I was 42. You never know.

      • teecee says:

        No woman would be given the benefit of the doubt in a situation like this. It would all be “selfish” etc.

  9. Whatnow says:

    The piece of the puzzle I’m missing is why did she agree to use her eggs and help create these embryos if children weren’t on the table?

    Seems quite possible children were on the table and when she got with Joe they still were and then she changed her mind?.

    • Coco says:

      If you read old interviews back when she was dating Nick. She said she was happy with just her son but felt that she was obligation; to have a child for Nick because he was younger than her and didn’t have any kids.

      This has always made me think she either grow-up in a toxic home where she was made to feel that her job was to give her future husband a baby or Nick made her feel like she was obligated to “give him” a kid.

      After she and Nick split she didn’t want to get rid of the embryos nor did she want to use them.

      • BothSidesNow says:

        @ Coco, that’s is extremely for Sophia to feel “obligated” to give Loeb, or any other man, kids, but we have to look at her ancestry.

        Unfortunately women from Latin and South American countries are still ingrained with the duties of a woman in her lifetime. Women are expected to have children, do all of the work of housekeeping and childrearing without any expectation for men to do be involved, period!

        Living with my paternal family in Argentina, I witnessed how ingrained the tradition is in the 20th century. I highly doubt that the tradition has changed much in the last 30 years. Still to this day, my vast varied female friends from Mexico and CA/SA it’s still the same mindset.

  10. DaveW says:

    I think I saw something this morning (Daily Mail?) that her ex Nick Loeb is using this as an opportunity to get some attention and apparently thinks that now that Sofia and Joe are divorcing she’ll be amenable again to using the eggs having a baby via surrogate.

  11. introducingmrsjones says:

    I don’t understand why people think this is amicable. Joe is literally going to tmz of all places to get his side across first. Him and his people should know how that looks.

    • BlueNailsBetty says:

      There is literally no reason for any of this but he’s coming out swinging, and to misogynistic TMZ, at that. Also, why go to Wasser to handle a super simple, uncontested divorce?

      I’m starting to think we’re thisclose to him outing himself as one of the douchebros like Roe Jogan.

      • Twin Falls says:

        Wasser is a red flag. It’s feeling more and more like Sophia needed to be away with her friends versus just wanting to celebrate her birthday if that makes sense.

    • Kitten says:

      It’s a f*cking firehose of negative sh*t from his camp and honestly, it makes him look angry and bitter and it has her smelling like a damn rose.

      • RoyalBlue says:

        I totally agree with you ladies!

      • lucy2 says:

        I agree, so far everything is pro him, against her, and it’s just not necessary. They should have a clean split and go on with their lives.
        They may have been on the same page at one point about kids, and he changed his mind, or she did, or both did. If they want different things, best to split.

  12. Mcmmom says:

    Ugh – that is a sad situation. When I married my ex, I was clear from the beginning that I wanted a family. A few years into the marriage, he said he didn’t know if he wanted kids after all. I would have chosen divorce and single motherhood over the marriage in a heartbeat.

    • May says:

      Same thing happened to an acquaintance of mine. She is now happily remarried with a couple of gorgeous kids. Best wishes.

  13. Amy Bee says:

    I thought this may have been a factor.

  14. ML says:

    Wtf? Does Joe have sources ready to speed dial PageSix and other male-friendly gossip sites to “subtly” complain about Sofía? Since her birthday (and his cold birthday wishes IG), we’ve learned that they are separated, she’s squeezing lemons in Italy and she’s a hot blooded Latina who is totally not laid back who cares too much about fashion who is not sober (whatever that means) who doesn’t want any more kids at the age of 51… So I’ve learned that Joe is a Marilyn Manson buddy, and while this surprised me last week, by now this makes total sense to me. May Sofía be quickly clear of him.

    • Moxylady says:

      Ewwwwww is this true?!?

      I thought he was like a nerd that got hot and loved his wife and then wanted kids and so they parted.

      Is his camp really spreading shit or is it like the UK media and just people talking out their assholes?

    • Carolnr says:

      @ ML
      Under the circumstances, I don’t understand why everyone thinks Joe’s b- day wish to Sophia was so cold? He wished her a Happy Birthday & posted a previous pic of them celebrating her birthday. ( he could have just also wished her a Happy Birthday & no throwback pic) Yes, he did not post a romantic post, but imo, they have been living separate lives for a while now & obviously they were going to be issuing a divorce statement..
      I think they both changed in what they wanted from the marriage…sometimes people can be too opposite…

  15. Liberty says:

    A man who would leave a woman because she cannot have, or does not want, children, is a man who would leave, period. Sometimes things change. Do you stick by the person you claim to love? All of Joe’s PR feels very mean. If these are his actual reasons, then he needs to STFU and stop throwing the woman under the bus. We have enough reproductive abuse in the world happening without some dude leaving a woman because she doesn’t want kids. For all we know, she had miscarriages, but we definitely know she has suffered major trauma with the ex around IVF issues. I’d be calling bluffs if I were Sofia — are you here because you love me, or because I’m an incubator? Pick one, there’s the door. All the court shenanigans around women’s right to choose this enormous life path, any man can F off who doesn’t with loyalty respect a woman’s right to decide whether she wants to be a mother (which we all know is in practice a way bigger job than being a father when it all comes down to it). Gross PR move by Joe.

    • SAS says:

      A-fucking-men Liberty.

    • BlueNailsBetty says:

      HELL YES to all of this!

      • BothSidesNow says:

        Yes @ Liberty!! Louder for those in the back who feel entitled to dictate our choices as women and OUR decisions!!!

    • Pointillist says:

      And discuss it and stick to your decision. Being a parent is a big thing not something to f**k around about. He was 39 when they married – know yourself and grow up.

    • Kitten says:

      Yeah exactly, Liberty. ALLLL of this.

      I made a million comments last time on this subject so I’m just gonna say this once and let it go.
      I’m the exact same age she was when she started dating Joe–44 years old. I met my now husband when I was 38 and he was 30. We’ve been together for almost 7 years now. People who are not in a situation like ours really, truly do not understand how important the kids/no kids discussion is. My husband and I talked about it RIGHT AWAY (third date), as soon as we started to get serious because THAT’S the time to decide whether you want to move forward with this person or not—you don’t decide that after seven years of emotional investment—I’m sorry, you just DON’T.

      And please, I f*cking beg of you, do not give me the “people grow apart and change” as if a man of 39 years of age doesn’t know DAMN F*CKING WELL what pregnancy means to a 44 year old woman. It is high-risk, it means being an old parent, it means not bouncing back as quickly— it is a HUGE decision and at our age, we don’t have the luxury of changing our minds. We have the sole responsibility of carrying this child unless surrogacy is on the table.

      Now, is it possible that she thought she might be open to it but then decided against it? Sure. But it’s not likely that at 44 she didn’t already know that she doesn’t want more kids.

      My opinion is that either he went into this relationship thinking he could change her mind (which is super-f*cked up) or he just never cared that much about her to begin with. Because if kids are your sole priority, you don’t start dating a woman in her mid-forties–you just don’t. And I said this on the other thread but as a society, we excuse men for dating women half their age because “they probably just want a fertile woman so they can procreate” and when we have a middle aged man leaving his middle aged wife we *also* wave it away with “oh well he just changed his mind and decided he wanted to have kids”. As you said, the implication is that women are merely incubators and men can decide at any age that they want to have kids, even if it means ditching a relationship that is otherwise successful.

      And yeah, I’m sensitive to this because I got pregnant at 39 for the first time and ended the pregnancy. It was a decision we made together. If he told me tomorrow that he changed his mind and suddenly wanted to have kids, I would be GUTTED. So please miss me with the “people grow and change” BS. This is not a situation of two people in their twenties who have all the time in the world and just grew apart.

      • Twin Falls says:

        👏👏👏 women are not just incubators. Kids are not the be all end all in life.

      • BothSidesNow says:

        Well said @ Kitten!!! Women are NOT incubators and when we say we don’t want children, listen to OUR answer!!! We will not be changing our minds, you will NOT be manipulating us into having children we DON’T want and we sure as hell aren’t here solely to fulfill your “need” or “want” for children either!!!

      • Moxylady says:

        Kitten. I think I love you.

        Thank you all for the comments. It’s been super mind opening for me. I was like sure – kids can be a deal breaker either way and people change their minds.

        But the incubator thing… that’s for me feeling lots of things and thinking lots of things.

        Would he have left her if she were infertile?

        Or is this about appealing to the “mini van majority” etc that Lainey talks about.

        I’ve got a lot of thinking to do.

        Also. I’m 41 and if my husband – who had a vasectomy almost immediately after our second child was born – wanted another child I would FLIP THE FUCK OUT.


      • Kitten says:

        @Moxylady–Thanks 🙂 I’m reading through others sharing their experiences and trying to keep an open mind too. I get that there’s a WIDE variety of ways that people come together and form a relationship and there’s not a one-size-fits all approach. But I do think I have a particular kind of insight on this issue because of the age difference. I just wanted to make the point that as a society, women’s worth is so often tied to our fertility; our ability to procreate. And believe me, that is VERY much highlighted by the unsolicited opinions people have about our unconventional relationship. It was something I was super-aware of when we met which was why the kids discussion was VERY heavy and serious (“are you sure? what if you change your mind? so many people change their mind in their thirties. will you still feel this way 8 years from now?”) and a LOT of reassurance (“LISTEN TO ME: I AM SURE!!!”) was needed for me to move forward. It’s just a very different conversation than two people in their twenties or thirties who presumably have the luxury of youth and time on their side,

      • Aurora says:

        Back when she met Joe, she clearly said having kids together was a possibility. She hasn’t destroyed those embryos for a reason. I gather they got married under the idea she was open to become a mother again.
        It’s her prerrogative to have changed her mind, as it’s his to divorce if he really really wants to become a father in a certain way.
        For all we know, nothing that’s been published deserves more credit than tbe usual ‘friend of a friend’ thing.
        The only notable thing here is he hired Ms Wasser. Either he wants to nulify his prenup (which works heavily against his lucrative Internet boyfriend image); either Sofia might not be as keen to get divorced as their press release suggest.

    • Jaded1 says:

      I disagree with this. My husband and I agreed that we wanted children before we married. Then I ended up with infertility and miscarriages. If he said that he didn’t want to adopt (which we ended up doing), I almost definitely would have divorced him. And if I had been the one to say no to adoption, I certainly wouldn’t have blamed him for moving on to a chance to be a parent. Very few decision in marriage are as big as “do you want children?” She might have been open to seeing what happened and he clung to that, both out of love. Maybe didn’t get pregnant or want to get into an embryo situation again. Maybe between no kids and her very social life and social drinking and whatever else, it was just too much to stay in the relationship. Relationships are give and take….if he gave up the idea of children, battled with his sobriety, went to social events that he just wasn’t into, maybe he just felt like he couldn’t give anymore? It doesn’t make anyone a bad guy. Sometimes people just have to say it isn’t working and move on.

      • Liberty says:

        Enormously different situations, so I’ll leave those nuanced aspects out, because you have the right to your own feelings and decisions. However, If you went on a media blitz and threw your husband under the bus for not wanting to adopt after infertility and miscarriages became part of the equation, rather than gracefully handling the nuanced circumstances with some empathy and consideration, then I’d for sure be grossed out by your PR, too.

      • Ange says:

        But you agreed you both wanted kids, so that’s a bit different. She was never into it, and at an age where it would have been an enormously difficult undertaking, so there was no bait and switch.

  16. B says:

    Its sad but there are no bad guys here. Just 2 people who once loved each other enough to get married and now have divorced due to irreconcilable differences. I hope they both will be okay.

    Its also weird that tabloids keep trying to create a reason for the split; sobriety, kids etc. The divorce is the story and its shocking enough. Why do they keep trying to add conjecture and nonsense? They could just report on what they’ve been doing since the news was announced.

    Its weird its like they are trying to make fetch happen. This just isn’t a big messy divorce. They can cover Kevin Costner if they want that.

    • Coco says:

      There is a bad guy here and that’s Joe because why is he throwing her under the bus. His PR team running to the media to post these stories blaming it all on Sophia while making him the victim.

      • Glamarazzi says:

        All this!

      • BothSidesNow says:

        Yes!!! ALL of this!!!

      • Lens says:

        Yes! The story I read was he was a down to earth guy who liked to have fun with dungeons and dragons, video games and watching wrestling and she is a diva who likes to dress up and go to fancy restaurants. Obviously from his camp making it sound like he’s the one to be sympathetic to.

  17. Kelsey says:

    No bad guys here. Sometimes goals just aren’t compatible. Wishing them both happiness moving forward.

  18. Lizzie says:

    Are we going to find out he has a child on the way? Yesterday he claimed it was because she is not ‘sober’, today he wants children. Both can be true, but he is doing a lot of work to make sure there is no fault on his side.

    • BothSidesNow says:


      Another douche bag wanting to paint the picture of victimhood whilst exposing himself in the process!!!

  19. Weird says:

    Are all the “no bad guys here” parrots actually bots? Because seriously, this bro went to TMZ and Page Six to blame Sofia. Hello, that makes him a bad guy.

    • Kitten says:

      Right??? I feel like I’m losing my mind…
      I think it’s because this man is oddly revered around here. Like, if Affleck did this shit there would be 400 comments all saying what an ahole he is.

      • BlueNailsBetty says:

        @Kitten I’m one of the people who thought Joe was a stand up guy. But this week has been an eye opener.

      • Kitten says:

        @ BlueNailsBetty–It’s just weird: first it was that her drinking challenged his sobriety, now it’s that she changed her mind about wanting all just feels very one-sided and blame-y to me. It’s also a lot of…personal stuff? Like, if they had issued a purposefully vague joint statement saying that “they love each other dearly but sadly decided to part ways” and he just STFU afterwards, I don’t think we’d all feel so icky about him now.

      • WiththeAmericann says:

        Repeating the exact same phrase, too. PR bots?

        It’s so gross, first he threw her under the bus suggesting she was a lush basically and now he’s Jennifer Aniston-ing her – ‘I’m the Good Man Who Wants Kids, She’s the Bad Woman Who Doesn’t”

        Miss me with all of it and he looks bad from here. And worse by the minute.

    • Twin Falls says:

      @weird – yup

    • BlueNailsBetty says:

      And you don’t hire Laura Wasser unless you plan on going HAM on your soon to be ex-spouse.

      I am so disappointed in him.

      • BlueNailsBetty says:

        @Kitten Oh I totally agree with you. This blitz is a complete wtf. Between finding out he is a Marilyn Manson groupie and this roll out of trying to shame Sofía the ick factor is getting bigger and bigger.

    • Jaded says:

      I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if he hooks up with some young, hot thing immediately and has a baby. He’s clearly not the nice guy we were led to believe.

      • BlueNailsBetty says:

        If he hasn’t already…this roll out sure looks like someone who cheated/impregnated someone but doesn’t want his wholesome image to take a hit.

      • RoyalBlue says:

        Bingo! That’s part two, slow roll out coming in 2024.

      • libra says:

        Prologue to the next reveal; I am delighted to announce that ( blank ) and I are welcoming our much wanted baby this year.

  20. Trish says:

    I don’t like him because of this. First of all, he couldn’t let her file first. That’s a prick move. Then, i don’t understand wanting kids and if your partner doesn’t, that’s it, you don’t love her anymore? It seems like it’s a midlife crisis on his part. Also there were problems, because I read an article from a friend of both theirs, that they’ve not been happy with each other for a long time and it was uncomfortable for friends who would go out with them. That if one did something, the other would start. So I believe there is more going on, but just from all I’ve read, he doesn’t come off well. In fact, both men in her life seem controlling and manipulative to me. That’s just the vibe I get.

    • Hello says:

      Nick being a controller? Definitely. Joe? Not really seeing it. I get the vibe that both really loved each other and started out trying to be on the same page only to realize that they weren’t really wanting to be on that page… it happens.

      • Kitten says:

        Sounds like fanfic TBH because that is definitely not the narrative that his team is putting out there.

      • WiththeAmericann says:

        Pray tell, how do you “get this vibe?”

        Let me tell you what “vibe” I’m getting. I’m getting the vibe that Joe is a toxic, controlling POS who married the hot woman when she was at the peak of her fame and is now throwing her under the bus.

        I’m getting the “vibe” that he has already gotten a 21 year old pregnant.

        See how “getting the vibe” works?

      • Hello says:

        Wow – as much as I love this website it’s amazing how some of you totally ruin this experience by randomly attacking others for not sharing your opinion. Not necessary. They’ve been vocal in their love for one another. It didn’t seem contrived. I hope they both heal and find what they want in life.

  21. Hello says:

    Who knows what happened… looks like they started out on same page or at least definitely had the conversation Re kids…

    • HeyKay says:

      I am/was hoping for a quick, quiet no gossip divorce.
      I like both of them. But, if Joe is taking a shot at Sofia or trying to spin this as somehow she is to blame..her can drop over dead.
      Zero reason to be nasty to her.

      If it turns out he has a gf already pregnant, I will be so pissed at him.

  22. Thinking says:

    Considering the time frame in which they met and married (late 30s – early40s for her), I think it makes sense she wouldn’t want kids at this point.

    I know men can have kids any time they want and that there’s all this technology, but I’ll admit to being a little puzzled that he’d wait till 51 to finally decide he wants them. You usually know earlier than that that it’s a burning desire.

    • Thinking says:

      Oh wait, I mixed up their ages. He’s 46 and she’s 51. Well, I can definitely see why she wouldn’t want kids NOW. I know I wouldn’t!

  23. May says:

    @trish, We don’t know what decision they made together, if any. What if she had agreed to have a child with him? What if she had agreed, hey I don’t really want to go through childbirth but I would really be okay with or love adopting or fostering a child? What if she then turned around and said no I changed my mind. It seems pretty feasible to me that someone could fall out of love with someone who either lied about how they felt or changed their mind about something knowing how strongly you felt.

    This is a hugely fundamental and important issue for some people in their marriage and someone changing their mind about something as fundamental as that in a marriage could be seen as a betrayal. And precisely because women are not incubators perhaps the best decision is a breakup.

    Again, we don’t know what happened or what was agreed to prior to their marriage but I really can’t think, especially with the Loeb issues, that children were not discussed before they were married.

  24. Isa says:

    I’m glad to see so many comments about Joe blaming Sofia and pushing so many stories out there. Yesterday, I read one from a source that said they’re not going to pull a JLo and Ben and get back together, not sure why anyone would think that? And that Joe is ready to start dating again and doesn’t want any criticism. It kind of makes me think he’s already got someone but is trying to avoid cheating rumors.

    • BlueNailsBetty says:

      Joe is dragging Sofía through the tabloid mud. That queen is never, ever, ever getting back together with him.

    • Lens says:

      Yes. Read that too. That he is ready to fall in love again and doesn’t want to wait to date. When he put the date of separation as July 2? My gossip sense is tingling.

    • WiththeAmericann says:

      My money is on this.

    • Reborn Rich says:

      Remember when B Pitt put out Jen A not wanting children? Remember how people on here accepted that and cheered him on when he got with a younger woman and had kids? Remember that magazine spread where the new couple played happy family and J A got no sympathy?

      • Anonymous says:

        Yes, I remember. It worked then (for BP) and Joe’s hoping it works now.

      • Juniper says:

        Then it turned out that JA had fertility issues and actually miscarried. I also have it on good authority that BP treated JA like garbage. There is a reason she was so neurotic.

      • Anonymous says:

        JA really dodged a bullet with BP. He treated her horribly during the divorce so it does not surprise me to hear he also treated her that way during their marriage.

  25. Andrea says:

    I am 42 with PCOS and massive fertility issues. I would hope anyone who dates me at this point understands that there will be no children. This is why I think I should date 50 somethings with already grown kids, so that this is completely a non issue.

  26. PJ says:

    This is one of those relationships that I’m really sad to see come to an end.

    Does anyone else think that he’s having some kind of crisis/realization because of everything that was revealed during his Finding Your Roots episode? The way his father was shunned by his father because it turns out he wasn’t his? So, Joe isn’t related to anyone named Mangianello? I know that loads of adopted people reconcile themselves with not sharing bloodlines with their family (not always–I have a cousin who was adopted as a baby, has always known and still secretly sought out her birth mother), but maybe this was the life event that shifted things.

    Very sad for them both.

    • BlueNailsBetty says:

      I can see how the genealogy information might have solidified his wanting to have biological children.

      But this tabloid mess is speaking to something else going on with him. He’s throwing Sofía under the bus when there was no reason to do so.

      • PJ says:

        Oh I didn’t see that. The report I saw sounded very friendly–there’s a prenup, they both retain all their own pre-marital assets, etc. Can you give me a little more detail or point me to the report?

  27. Nuks says:

    I agree it’s weird that he’s trying to “Win“ the divorce. Seems to me like he’s trying to get ahead of something, considering the fact that they are both beloved, and there’s no need to try to win. His base is largely women, so this innocent positioning may have to do with the possibility that he’s already got a girlfriend and they’re going to make their debut soon and he wants to win sympathy. I know he has a great résumé behind him, but he needs women over 30 to stay loyal fans.

  28. Thinking says:

    Whenever an actor in their forties says they want kids, we suddenly find out two weeks later out their secret 25 year old girlfriend is pregnant.

  29. fabulous says:

    I always thought she was stunningly beautiful but she’s got a weird Nicole Kidman vibe in these pictures.

  30. J says:

    Annoying that he drew this conclusion after he married her

    • Ann says:

      No one said that. If he did people can change their mind. I just don’t know about the stories to the gossip mags. If he is putting them out there as everyone bashing him has assumed. If I marry and a guy just changes his mind about having kids I doubt if I stay. That’s a big ask. I’m not. Children are important to me and I will discuss it before getting serious. At their ages and the fact that she had embryos I’m pretty sure they discussed children. I would be shocked if they didn’t. She should be able to not have children that she doesn’t want and he should be able to move on and try without hate. I don’t know if it’s PR or people are just putting out stories. We’ll see if it’s nasty or not. Laura Wasser is a famous divorce lawyer. If there is pre-nup would you need her? Maybe.

  31. canichangemyname says:

    I never had big opinions about him, but … it looks like he’s really throwing her under the bus here. First, there’s the implication that she drinks too much, now she won’t fulfill his daddy dreams? She’s 51 and has a kid, how was this not talked about previously. I’m not liking this vibe from him at all. Divorces happen, but I’m getting the feeling he’s making it ugly on purpose.

  32. C says:

    He is sketchy for going to these outlets and she is a continuing Johnny Depp fan so I side eye them both. Good luck I guess.

  33. LOLA says:

    Wow!!! The comments on this are so wildly speculative and judgmental!

    Someone wrote that she made embryos with Joe. She made them with her ex, Nick. Who absolutely harassed her.

    It’s the internet. Maybe people are making up sh*t!

    And someone saying she was obsessed with her son on a tv show!? Seriously people, think! It was a tv show.

    Maybe he’ll have kids with someone else. Maybe his plans for his life changed.

    We don’t know anything until one of them says something!

    In any case, it doesn’t sound messy. Or at least, as messy as a break up can be.

  34. HeyKay says:

    I really dislike these older guys who decide they want kids and shortly marry a much younger woman, basically marrying a womb!
    See how well that worked out for Princess Diana?

  35. Bingo says:

    I remember when Brad Pitt was on his baby fever tour in every interview while still married to Jennifer Aniston. Now none of his kids speak to him.

    Careful of what you wish for.

    • HeyKay says:

      Good point about Pitt!

    • Lens says:

      Sooooo many women were so sympathetic to the poor beautiful man who wanted babies. Famous women got caught up in it and wore t-shirts that said “Brad I’ll have your babies!” Who was that? Trying to think and I come up with..Eva Longoria? All these years later the blaming of Jen Aniston for “making” Brad cheat with a co star to have a family therefore not his fault rankles.

  36. ME says:

    Maybe at first he didn’t want kids but now he does? Or maybe she wanted kids and now she doesn’t? People change. It’s best he move on and be with someone who wants the same things. I mean neither one of them will have trouble finding someone else (if that’s what they want).

  37. Vanessa says:

    It sounds like he told her from the beginning that he wanted children – a quick google search shows a few old articles where she mentions it. For whatever reason it didn’t work out, don’t think you can blame either of them.

  38. Ennie says:

    Any remote probability or doubt that Sofia had about changing her mind, Was probably terminated by that awful ex of hers and his crazy obsession with controlling her. He is long gone past, but the litigation is very r eal and must have been expensive and painful.

  39. AmIblue? says:

    Sofia and I are the same age. I could see still being open to having another child when I was in my early 40s, like she was when they married. That being said, I definitely would not be open to having a baby (surrogate or adopted or whatever) at 51. It’s just a whole different place in life.

    I wish them both well.

  40. cabooklover says:

    She’s 51 and has a whole grown ass son, I don’t blame her for not wanting to have a baby now. Too bad they didn’t figure this stuff out before they got married.

  41. Likeyoucare says:

    I dont know why. But… i think they might be a baby on the way. Less than 9 months. Probably.