Scobie: ‘There is still a warmth’ with Prince Harry & his dad, Harry ‘reaches out’

Omid Scobie gave exclusive Endgame excerpts to People Magazine, and Scobie also gave an interview to the magazine. People Mag is parceling all of it out for maximum coverage, which is fine with me. The interview seemed to focus on the three primary male royals: King Charles and his two sons, and the relationships within that triad. William and Harry’s relationship is, by Scobie’s account, irrevocably broken. But what about Charles and his “darling boy” Harry? Keep in mind, Scobie said all of this before Buckingham Palace went on a briefing spree about Prince Harry calling his father on his birthday. Scobie even lends some credence to that story about Harry and Meghan sending Charles a video of Archie and Lili.

Prince Harry and King Charles remain in touch amid a painful rift between the Duke of Sussex and members of the royal family. Author Omid Scobie, whose new book Endgame is out Nov. 28, tells PEOPLE exclusively in this week’s cover story that the father and son are still speaking.

While the bond between Harry, 39, and his brother Prince William, 41, may be damaged beyond repair, the King, 75, and his younger son continue to talk. The division between the brothers widened following the release of Harry & Meghan on Netflix and the Duke of Sussex’s revealing memoir Spare in the months that followed Queen Elizabeth’s funeral.

“A striking difference between Charles and William when it comes to their relationships with Harry is there is still a warmth with Harry and Charles,” says Scobie. “With Harry, there’s a reluctant acceptance that this is just who his father is. He would rather have that in his life than to cut it off completely. Hence, when they talk, it is often [Harry] reaching out. And I was surprised to learn that even Meghan [Markle] has some sort of correspondence with Charles, sending over photos of the children [Prince Archie, 4, and Princess Lilibet, 2], although they’re not directly to him,” adds the author. “So there is a willingness there.”

[From People]

How is Meghan sending photos of the kids indirectly? What is she doing, sending the photos through the Lord Chamberlain? The Archbishop of Canterbury?? LMAO, I’m only half-joking, I think the Archbishop of Canterbury (Justin Welby) actually likes the Sussexes a lot and he would probably be fine with acting as a middleman to massage the relations between the king and the Sussexes. I think Scobie is generally correct about how Harry views his father as well – that much was clear in Spare, that no matter how neglectful, disrespectful and sh-tty Charles was towards Harry, Harry still loves and even adores his dogsh-t father. It’s painful to think about the kind of relationship Charles and Harry could have had, if not for Camilla and William.

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  1. Yup, Me says:

    Cutting off a parent is hard. Even when they are clearly trash. I would imagine it’s especially hard when they’re your only surviving parent. The royal angle doesn’t change that.

    Maybe Meghan can help Harry with that in the years to come, since her father is trash, too, and she’s made her cut off stick.

    • sevenblue says:

      It isn’t just a sh*tty parent, Charles is also like cult leader. Meghan didn’t grow up in a cult where it is taught her life basically belonged to the monarchy. So, in that way, Harry has really made great progress with establishing boundaries with his family. He is just not good at reaffirming the boundaries yet from what I see.

    • Slush says:

      This. He may not be a good parent, but hes the only one Harry has left, and we’d be lying to ourselves if we pretended that didnt matter.

  2. Snuffles says:

    If Meghan sends anything, it would be through one of Charles’ staff. I’m sure no one has direct contact with the monarch, not even Camilla.

    It’s not a stretch to believe that she would share pictures. Although I’m surprised no photos have been leaked. I guess it would be too obvious who did the leaking.

    • Cessily says:

      I’m sure any photos sent are copyrighted and can’t be shared publicly. I would believe Meghan and Harry send photos, they aren’t the ones living in incandescent rage unable or unwilling to move on.

      • Chloe says:

        But here’s my thing: if your are so warm and fuzzy with each other you bother sending photo’s of the children then surely you are warm and fuzzy enough to send them directly? Sending photos of your kids through a middle man makes no sense to me

      • Amy Bee says:

        @Chloe: Charles doesn’t use a computer or a mobile and he doesn’t answer his own mail. So if they want to send photos has to be via a middleman.

      • Jaded says:

        @Chloe — Charles has someone squeeze his toothpaste onto this toothbrush every night (he probably has an official bum-wiper too). That’s why he has numerous dogsbodies to intercept mail and schedule calls, even with his own family. The man probably doesn’t even know how to button his shirt or tie his own shoelaces.

    • Amy Bee says:

      I was saying yesterday that the Palace is very careful not release/leak photos or videos of Harry and Meghan and the children. First of all they don’t have permission of Harry and Meghan to do so plus, if they did they would only be validating what Harry and Meghan have said about the Palace leaking information.

      • EasternViolet says:

        Agree here. I don’t think the Sussexes trust any of the intermediaries at the palace. The King really isn’t a normal person who has a cell phone or an email address. There is literal red tape involved to communicate with him. Someone to sympathetic to Charles and to the Sussexes are playing intermediary for any correspondence.

    • Becks1 says:

      I was thinking they gave Eugenie or Beatrice permission to share some pictures with Charles, in a “look at this pic of Archie Meghan texted me earlier today” kind of way.

      • Ace says:

        Yeah, their cousins having and sharing the photos is what makes most sense to me. Obviously H&M take their children’s security very seriously, so even with the copyright issue trusting those photos to any of those grey men would be very risky.

        After all they have experience with the tabloids sharing copyrighted material, and I don’t doubt for a second that the Mail would publish Archie and Lili’s photos however they got their hands on them.

    • paintybox says:

      I agree that Meghan would do thoughtful and proper things like share photos of the Sussex grandchildren with Harry’s father. Wouldn’t the King have his own office with secretary staff and private office e-mail accounts and that’s why it’s not “direct” sending? I had an upper-class boss (not even royal!) whose close family and friends had to route their calls and e-mails through his private secretary or office staff who would then decide whether to bother him or not.

  3. equality says:

    The only one I could see H&M trusting with pix of their children would be Eugenie. Maybe that is how KC “indirectly” sees photos. If I were her I’d just show them to him on my phone screen and that would be all.

    • Amy Bee says:

      Yeah, it’s likely Eugenie not some Palace official.

      • SueBarbri33 says:

        Yep, I assume it’s either thru the York girls or Anne. I only put Anne in there because she seems to be the only person who is both cordial with Harry and frequently sees Charles.

    • Jais says:

      That actually reminds me of a detail from one of yesterdays excerpts. That even Eugenie didn’t know what was happening with the queen on the day of her death and called Harry to find out more. So not sure that Eugenie would be the one to pass info on to Charles. Maybe Anne? Or maybe there is one courtier that Harry does trust?

    • Becks1 says:

      Ha I just said that above! Didnt read far enough lol.

  4. Cel2495 says:

    Ufff, It’s hard to completely disconnect from a parent but once you really really see them for who they are that acceptance will come. I always thought I can deal with family members with what they can offer but sometimes that is even hard. He will eventually get tired of reaching out ( as I did) and just accept it for what it is. Also if that is true, to continue having your attempts being leaked all over the place it’s going to sting more and more.
    Family relations/ dynamics are very complicated. I am sure it hurtes Meghan a great deal to disconnect from her father too but that was needed for her mental health and safety. Maybe Harry will get there too.

    • adrienne says:

      And as difficult as it probably was for Meghan to disconnect from her father, she also still has Doria who seems to be a rock for both her and Harry. I can’t imagine how hard it would be for Harry to cut all contact with Charles after losing his mom in such a tragic way. He may be thinking that any relationship is better than none at all and has just come to a place of acceptance about who is father is. I think he expressed having sympathy and understanding about it in either Spare of their docuseries, since he understands firsthand how Charles (and William) was groomed as the future king within this toxic royal institution and really had no choice.

  5. Well okay. Umm.. All I have to say is Harry is even a bigger man than I thought. To still want a relationship with someone who has hurt you so badly is incredible in my opinion and I say this because I had an extremely abusive relationship with my mother. It was physically and mentally abusive. It took me a while to break all contact with her. My therapist told me I could do 2 things . 1. Accept her for who what she is because she will never change or 2. Break all contact. I tried 1 but just couldn’t so I chose 2 instead. When she died i cried because I never really had a mother. I didn’t cry because I missed her or anything else just that I never had a mother. I guess Harry is choosing to deal with what little he has and that is not easy.

    • Macky says:

      Same boat. It took a decade after my mother passed to finally see all the lies and abuse in the light. Once I stopped communicating with my family all the shadow truths emerged. Just a bunch of people trying to make themselves important.

      I thought it would get better but I was just throwing good time/caring after bad. I wasted a lot of years trying to shore up a base.

  6. girl_ninja says:

    If I were Meghan I just couldn’t do it unless there was a true and contrite apology. Charles has betrayed them and treated them shabbily. I appreciate wanting a connection with your parents but protecting ones self is paramount. That man took away security from them, exposing them to much danger. Charles could have at least had the security accompany them to the states and settled in at the home Tyler allowed them to stay. But cruelty is the point with Charles.

    And let’s face it, what Charles did and Tom Markle did really isn’t all that different. They both betrayed their children and used/use them for publicity.

    • Macky says:

      I think he has apologized in his own way privately. I think it happened early this year.

      An example is h&m released a statement after w&k. If there hadn’t been some sort of something I think m&h would follow their own timetable. The statements went Charles, william, harry.

  7. Brassy Rebel says:

    It’s obvious that there’s still a relationship between Harry and his father. And it’s equally obvious that it’s all because of Harry. He’s the one who nurtures it and maintains it. I have no idea why, but, as I said yesterday, it’s Harry’s business. I wish him some kind of comfort and tranquility with it.

  8. Amy Bee says:

    I think there’s definitely warm from Harry towards his father, that was obvious in Spare but I’m not sure it is reciprocated by Charles.

    • JT says:

      It definitely not reciprocated by Charles. I don’t know if Harry could ever truly cut off Charles. I mean, what would it take for him to do so? Charles constantly briefs against him and uses them for cover and just evicted them in January. Now there’s a birthday call allegedly? Meghan has the strength to completely cut off her father and hasn’t looked back. What’s even more interesting is that Thomas Markle isn’t powerful and has no influence. Charles decisions surrounding H&M have put their lives in danger. But that isn’t enough to cut him off.

      • Brassy Rebel says:

        Thomas Markle is a terrible father and a terrible person. But he doesn’t have the power to do damage to the family that Charles has. It’s why I scratch my head that Markle is cut off but Charles isn’t. 🤷

      • Tessa says:

        He and his elder daughter Samantha have trashed Meghan and have sponsors in the media encouraging them. Lady Campbell was going to bring tom markle to the UK. The problem is they are used by bots and derangers to slam Meghan. In that sense toxicity against Meghan is promoted by tom and Samantha.

      • Tessa says:

        Tom markle made it clear he is not amenable to Meghan and any communication from he. He sold her out and if she even tried he would report it to the media.

    • Truth says:

      Agree. And I wonder if it’s better to have a civil relationship with this king to some degree.

      When William becomes King the briefing from the palace and such will be 100x worse. That bridge is gone.

      Charles is not simply a father who has screwed you over-thomas markle-he is more dangerous.

      • Tessa says:

        The price harry would have to pay imo is giving up Meghan and the children. Harry won’t pay that price to be with his father and brother.

    • Becks1 says:

      yes, there is definitely warmth. That was clear in the way he went relatively easy on him and just the way he spoke about him in general.

      Is it reciprocated? I doubt it but I think its hard to measure charles by a normal person’s standard of a loving father or even a warm father. I just think he’s so emotionally…, maybe. Like he probably thinks its the epitome of being a warm and loving father to send Harry a letter once a year.

      • JT says:

        If Charles can endanger their lives by cutting off security and leaking their location, weaponize the entire BM against them, and use the queens funeral to attack Meg, what is the point of cutting off Thomas Markle? His actions don’t even compare to Charles’. It’s because of Charles that H&M can get chased by paparazzi in NYC and people don’t believe them. But Charles gets birthday videos (if true)? It baffles me. It’s not my life of course, so live and let live I guess.

      • Becks1 says:

        @JT I don’t disagree. I just think families can be complicated and for whatever reason, its clear that Harry still has warmth for his father, even as he has set boundaries and left the country etc. Sussex fans may not like it, but it is what it is.

        The difference with Thomas Markle is that he is Meghan’s father and Charles is Harry’s father, and Meghan has made it clear that its up to Harry how to handle his relationship with his father.

      • JT says:

        @Becks1 I get what you’re saying but to me it looks like Meg can make the difficult decision to create the boundaries to protect, not only herself, but her family, while Harry cannot. If Meghan was as “warm” towards Thomas as Harry is with Charles there would probably be nothing that the public would know about. Meanwhile Harry’s supposed “warmth” towards Charles means that H&M are constantly berated and demeaned by the BM and their lies are seen as credible because of Harry’s phone calls and videos. Again my opinion means nothing but as an outsider it’s crazy to me.

      • Kittenmom says:

        While he may not have any real world power, Markle would sell out any info about calls, photos, etc in a hot second.

  9. N2NY says:

    Anne. Megan is sending the photos via Anne, who very warmly greeted Harry at the coronation. And no one accuses Anne of leaking.

  10. YeahRight says:

    I’m not buying it. They wouldn’t risk sending photos of their kids to the palace of leaks. Hasn’t been stated that Harry has to go through his father’s staff to talk to him. I know Omid gets a lot of confirmations and denials from their spokesperson but he never had a in with them to know what’s really going on. He like all royal reporters fudge the truth even if it’s in the Sussexes favor. Given what we’ve learned from Spare and his book.

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      YeahRight, if I had to hazard a guess, I would suggest that there is someone at People who let this piece out to the palace BEFORE it was in the magazine. That’s probably where the birthday call and video, etc., was written from.

      Is this true? Unless a spokesperson for the Sussexes confirm it, I’m skeptical. It seemed pretty clear by Harry in his interviews for his book that there had to be accountability before reconciliation could happen.

      Someone, IMO, is working hard to make it look like Harry is groveling to get back into the brf. Really? He’s the one making all of the moves. If that’s true, why does KFC run away anytime Harry is in London? I’m not buying this.

      I think Scobie is being fed a line from the royal sources. I don’t care if he has three independent sources, this is the line that the brf wants out there. Or, I could be wrong.

  11. E.A says:

    Don’t know if any of this is true but I’m over it. Why would you have a relationship with a man who provides no security for your children. I don’t like Thomas Markle but they are no different awful people. I like Meghan I really do but if any of this is true massive eye roll she comes across pathetic in order to please Harrys family

    • Trurh says:

      Charles is not equal to Thomas Markle. Similar but not the same.

      He is more dangerous as is his consort.

      Some type of communications might not be a bad move.

      She has her boundaries. Meghan clapped back when he leaked the letters rather publicly. She is not pathetic in my eyes. She would do so again if anything of note, other than he got a video, was leaked about her children.

      • Amy Bee says:

        There’s a reason why the Palace has seemed to stop briefing against Meghan. It’s because every-time they brief against she claps back very publicly. That’s not the actions of a pathetic person.

    • equality says:

      Meghan is supporting what PH wants. She clearly stated that the relationship with his dad was up to him.

    • Jaded says:

      Meghan does nothing to “please his family” anymore, that ship has sailed, and has made it a point to avoid them. Harry’s a grown man who has had extensive therapy and has worked through a lot of bitterness and negativity to arrive at a place in his life where he’s comfortable having a relationship with his father within certain parameters. I imagine they have cordial, polite and respectful communications whereas Charles’ relationship with William is anything but — I imagine they clash regularly. All this to say Meghan is not the least bit pathetic, in fact she’s strong enough to let Harry manage his relationship with his father on his own terms.

      • Popsicle W says:

        💯 @jaded. Harry has done extensive work on himself and if he has concluded that he still wants to communicate with his father, that should be respected since none of us have all the details. I see people comparing Harry and Meghan’s situations with their respective fathers but I don’t think it’s actually comparable. Meghan still has a parent relationship with her mother. The only person Harry has left is his father, and I believe that is significant.

      • Iolanthe says:

        Diana and Doria, two beautiful mothers, with nerves of steel. Meghan comes from a tradition of strong and wise women. I cannot help wonder if a fraction of this was thrown at Kate, how would she hold up .? Imagine her being maligned by the gutter press, having security removed from her children and attacked and gaslit at every turn ? She wouldn’t survive a day without support ..she is the one who is spineless. Even hanging on to a loveless marriage is pathetic. What price a crown, hey ?

  12. ales says:

    It may be true that Harry, Meghan and Charles have been talking via message or private email and now talk on the phone. If this is true, I wonder if Harry and Charles decided to keep their communications secret. Not only to lessen the impact on themselves but also not to upset W whose tantrums are legendary and it seems that Khate’s temper is just as bad. If W & K thought that Charles was being nice to H & M, their irrational jealousy would take over and they would be spreading more and more relentlessly vile inventions about H & M to any gossip writer who listens. We dont choose out parents, Harry has not trashed his father. Charles doesnt want conflict and seems to be cowardly, unless its about Camilla, so to desert one son and his family and favor the other, must be hurtful beyond belief.

  13. Jay says:

    Who knows why Harry has decided not to completely sever ties with his POS father? If anything, the depiction of Charles in Spare showed him to be self-centered, self-pitying and emotionally damaged person who is not capable of giving his son the love and support he needs. All of the “warmth” seems to be on Harry’s side. I also think that having distance and newfound financial security makes it easier.

    Maybe, having broken away from the firm, Harry can view his father’s failings with a kind of pity. Remember Harry saying that his family is “stuck”? Plus, the children are still young. Now, as they get older, if Charles were to start pulling the same shitty scapegoat stuff he did in Harry’s childhood, I could see the Sussexes going no contact. And unfortunately I see nothing in Charles that suggests he’s learned anything, so I think that’s a distinct possibility.

  14. Macky says:

    I figured they still spoke. You can tell pa-pa asked for some “consideration” regarding announcements.

    I tried to do something similar with my backstabbing sister. As I’m telling her I know she is backstabbing me, that her conspirators miss me; she was backstabbing me. She is lying to me while they are inviting me to events and leaving her out.

    I wish harry better luck! Hopefully Charles has learned their isn’t enough briefing in the world that can hide his “whatevers”. And William needs to start leaking his own dirt to the press because people are starting to make-up “concerning” things about him. If they are even made up. Could be true.

  15. bxby says:

    Not surprising there’s rekindling efforts. The sentiment always appeared to be disappointment towards his father and hatred (for lack of a better word) towards his brother. Disappointment leaves room for forgiveness.

    • Macky says:

      “Disappointment leaves room for forgiveness.”

      Powerful words. I realize i didnt take my abusers seriously and was disappointed with them. I needed to take them seriously and cut ties early. I don’t recommend ghosting but once I stated my case I should’ve left. I had medically issues but it would’ve been better to try my luck.

  16. Shawna says:

    I could see H&M trying not to cut off their children’s choice to have a relationship with Charles in advance. They’re too small to understand now, but keeping even a tiny lifeline open would make sure that when they’re old enough to choose, their parents have left them a trail of breadcrumbs to follow.

    • MaryContrary says:

      I can see this. There was a 6 month period where my husband and I did not speak to his mom (long backstory but she was awful for a long time and I finally snapped.) She eventually sent me a long apology letter and we resumed speaking. During that estrangement I would still text her pics of our kids and snippets of what they were up to. I didn’t want to use our children as a way to hurt her. From everything I’ve read about Meghan, she would feel the same way.

  17. lanne says:

    Going no contact when your father is literally the king of the country (and unprosecutable) is dangerous. Keeping a tiny lifeline open is probably the wisest thing to do. Those kids still are part of the succession. They do have a birthright no matter what.

    When William takes the throne, things will probably become even more dangerous for them–that’s why I hope whatever is wrong with him blows up sooner rather than later. I can imagine him biding his time, thinking of all the ways he can “punish” them once he has the literal keys to the kingdom.

    • Beverley says:

      By then, William may be so unhinged and unstable that he might attempt to “Diana” them. William will never get over this thing with Harry & Meghan because Harry is never going back.

  18. TIFFANY says:

    I personally think Harry is keeping contact with Chuckles is for more ‘evidence’ and will be ready to drop the gauntlet when Chuckles passes away. Peg go rule the day he think he can cross Harry and his family in America.

  19. Over it says:

    Maybe I just don’t want to be understanding or forgiving but I see Charles and Thomas as the same dog sh___t fathers. Only difference is one has a crown or many . So i could not make nice with either one if i were Meghan . And you can bet until i received a full apology and I want it made public the same way the smearing and abuse and gaslighting was made public. Until that happened, not chuck or bad dad would not even see the hair on the top of my children head, let alone their entire selves. Yes , I am that petty .

    • Mary Pester says:

      I think Harry has maintained a communication channel with his father because he knows what’s coming. Charlie has a wife that sees him as a meal ticket with access to vast wealth for HER family, he also has a son with a terrible temper and is prone to violence. We know cam and Charlie maintain separate homes and wings, we know that Billy and katey can’t stand each other and live separate lives and we know more and more the people are calling for the end of the monarchy. Harry has a heart as big as an ocean, and deep inside it he believes his father is going to need him very soon, but, staying safe in the US is Harry’s insurance policy, as is the receipts he holds against Billy and bitch face. Don’t mistake a gentle heart for a softer Harry, he’s tempered steel and can cut the cult harder and deeper than they can cut him, push him to far and they will bleed out!

      • Jaded says:

        Yes, William really is the fly in the ointment in this situation, isn’t he. I imagine he and Pa have a fractious relationship at best if his behaviour at the Hat Ceremony was any indication. Because Harry has worked through his issues with therapy, he’s likely a good source of advice to Pa on how to handle William when he flies off the handle, which seems to happen regularly. A long distance relationship can sometimes work better than an uncomfortably close one.

  20. Ace says:

    In Spare it was obvious that Harry still felt for his father and saw him as a victim of his circumstances. A lot of people have talked about how Harry leaving the Firm was him getting out of a cult and I think we have to see it that way to understand if he’s still in contact with Chuck. I think the process of leaving the cult is not completely over yet and Harry’s feelings on his father will probably keep evolving during the process.

    But that relationship is never going to be what Harry would like it to be because Chuck is not and cannot be a good father. We have heard that Harry knows he won’t get what he wants from his father and seems to have accepted it, so I can see them having a distantly polite relationship which for Chuck is probably a great parent/son relationship because Harry isn’t shouting at him.

  21. tamsin says:

    Didn’t Meghan say that she had lost her father, but the same needn’t happen to Harry? I’m not sure what she meant by that, though. It’s obvious that Harry feels compassion for his father, something that is clear in the way he wrote about Charles in Spare. And where is Omid getting is information from? He’s just feeding into the tabloid narrative that he’s the Sussex mouthpiece. Harry has made clear that only he himself and his spokesperson speak for him and his family.

  22. TheOriginalMia says:

    Harry loves his father. He also has empathy for the gilded cage Charles and the rest reside in. Harry is at peace with his past life in the UK and with his choice to leave. He’s no longer angry and that’s a good thing. Anger, resentment drains you. Harry has put Charles and William into locked boxes. William’s will never be opened, but Charles’ is pulled out on occasion and unlocked. By Harry’s choice. Not by Charles’.

  23. AC says:

    I also agree with Kaiser and Omid. Even after the Byline Times report, I always thought H had a soft spot for his dad. C may not be the best father but to me I thought W was the ring leader on all this. His envy towards H escalated even more so when M came into the picture. And that’s the reason why the brothers relationship is probably not fixable.

  24. aquarius64 says:

    The difference between the bad grandpas is Toxic Tom’s mess can be proven. Pap-gate. Slagging Harry and Meghan on multiple TV shows and his YouTube channel over the yrs. Co operating with the Daily Fail against Meghan in her lawsuit. Doorstepping Oprah after the interview with a letter demanding one for himself. Suing the pap agency he worked with for $1M for not getting his cut of the press wedding pap shots & getting slapped with a 2 yr restraining order because he made a death threat to the guy he sued. (Bad Dad lost and has to pay the legal fees.) Charles has sovereign immunity; he can’t be prosecuted in criminal court or sued in civil court. The law can come for Bad Dad.

  25. blunt talker says:

    Whatever the situation is with Harry and his royal family-he will have a choice of how to handle this problem-before Harry left he had no choices-he took the good with the bad and all mistreatments which he expected to take for the rest of his life-outside the royal cage he can decide how far to go and what will be acceptable to him and his family-so the door is not completely closed-I wish the Sussex family true peace and happiness and hope the royal family finds some way to accept and respect Harry’s decisions for himself and his family.