NYPD vindicates the Sussexes’ claims about the May ’23 paparazzi chase

One of the dumbest storylines of the past year was “the Duke and Duchess of Sussex were lying about being chased by the paparazzi in New York.” Last May, Meghan, Prince Harry and Doria Ragland attended the Ms. Foundation gala, where Meghan was being honored. They posed for official photos on the gala red carpet, and Harry and Meghan also left the event through one of the main exits, giving the swarm of paparazzi some good “street” shots. The Sussexes got into their security SUV and then all hell broke loose, as paparazzi chased the Sussexes’ convoy for two hours. NYPD officers were already part of the convoy, and at one point, the swarm/chase was so bad, the Sussexes had to go inside a police precinct and gather themselves. In the wake of the chase, the British media claimed that it was all make-believe, it was all an attention-seeking fantasy cooked up by the Sussexes. Meanwhile, CNN and other outlets were being briefed by the Sussexes’ private security people – some of whom are former Secret Service – that the incident really was a very bad situation. Well, guess what? The NYPD officially backed up the Sussexes’ story:

Prince Harry finds himself Wednesday in the unenviable position of having lost his war on the British government over his security arrangements, with a judge rejecting his demand for automatic police protection while in the U.K. He has, however won a battle, and some consolation may yet be found by the Sussexes after their much-mocked claim that they had been involved in a “near catastrophic” car chase through the streets of New York City last year, was vindicated in the judgment.

… Now, however, it has emerged in the judgement that the NYPD found that the chase in May really did happen, and has concluded that the behavior of the paparazzi chasing Harry and Meghan was not just “reckless” but also “persistently dangerous.” In what is likely to be a sweet vindication for Harry and Meghan, a senior officer at the NYPD has said the city not only holds enough evidence to arrest two people for reckless endangerment, but has also upgraded its security protocol for visits by Prince Harry and Meghan following the incident last May.

In a letter to the Metropolitan Police in London dated Dec. 6 2023, the NYPD’s Chief of Intelligence discussed “certain changes to the security posture that will be afforded to the Duke and Duchess of Sussex” following a “thorough review” of the incident.

The intelligence chief wrote: “We found the following: reckless disregard of vehicle and traffic laws and persistently dangerous and unacceptable behavior on the part of the paparazzi during the night in question. The individuals operated vehicles, scooters, and bicycles in a manner that forced the security team, which included an NYPD Lead Car, to take evasive actions on several occasions and a circuitous route to avoid being struck by pursuing vehicles or trapped on side blocks. Our conclusion, upon review with the Manhattan District Attorney’s office, is that we have sufficient evidence to arrest two individuals for reckless endangerment.”

The intelligence briefing was published Wednesday in the judgement in the lawsuit Prince Harry was bringing against the British Government over his security provisions in the U.K. While the NYPD has yet to actually arrest anyone in connection with the incident, there has been an immediate upgrade in the security extended to Prince Harry and Meghan when they visit New York in the future, according to the officer.

The letter was addressed to the Chief Superintendent and Commander of the Royalty and Speciality Protection, and was produced in court by Harry’s lawyer.

[From The Daily Beast]

Yeah – you could tell from the fact that everyone involved (including the paparazzi) shut the hell up that something serious went down that night. It really was just the British media insisting that no, it wasn’t serious, of course Harry and Meghan are lying! I always thought that one of the reasons why everything got so hush-hush was that not all of those people were paparazzi. It was an unsafe situation because there were people chasing them with a specific intent to do harm. You could also tell that the NYPD was taking it seriously because when the Sussexes visited New York last October, the Sussexes practically had a presidential convoy of NYPD security as they moved around the city. The British media was really mad about that too, almost as if they’ve been desperately trying to inflict harm on the Sussexes for years.


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  1. Bettyrose says:

    Thank goodness their driver was sober and alert!

    • Christine says:

      Seriously, and thank goodness for the updated security protocols for the Sussexes.

      It stuns me how cavalier the U.K. treats the security of Harry and his family.

      • Just Jade says:

        I have a feeling the two individuals who might be arrested came from salt island.

      • Couch Potato says:

        I think you’re spot on @Just Jade!

      • Debbie says:

        @Just Jade: You make a great point about the 2 people found to have engaged in reckless endangerment probably being British because that would certainly complicate the NYC authorities finding them and arresting them.

    • Crystal says:

      Exactly, it’s like down playing what could have happened, because it didn’t. We had a sober driver, history to learn from. Way to go NYPD for their professionalism! But it was the right mix of toxic and intent. This if not a death attempt was a warning and it was REAL!

    • BlueNailsBetty says:

      I’ve always thought that incident was a warning from the British media: play ball with us or you and Meghan and your family end up like Diana. They want Harry scared enough that he agrees to placate them and then gets sucked into the cycle of abuse all the other royals have agreed to.

      • bettyrose says:

        That’s absolutely what happened. Like someone said at the time, New York is crawling with major celebs and international figures without a media frenzy. This wasn’t about getting a prize shot of a celebrity.

      • Where'sMyTiara says:

        Stochastic terrorism, with a side of “we know you know who got away with it once”?

    • SB says:

      There is significant evidence that Henri Paul was not intoxicated from drinking. If so, his blood alcohol levels were elevated in another way.

      • CC730 says:

        He was not intoxicated on the autopsy report made by the french but intoxicated in the second made by guess who…oh and apparently his blood rhesus changed too between both reports (then it was changed at a later time since it was a typo according to the DM themselves).
        A photo at that time came out which had been made during the chase and you can clearly see the driver trying to see. It might have been accidental but it definitively was the paps fault.

  2. sevenblue says:

    GMB interviewed a pap who chased them. Of course, they blurred his face, so he wouldn’t be accountable any lies he told. The pap told them everything was good, H&M were lying. British media is literally the lowest level of journalism I have ever seen.

    • equality says:

      Of course, a criminal is going to deny wrong-doing.

    • Eurydice says:

      Sure, H&M were lying, their security people were lying, the NY police department is lying – the only one not lying is this one pap. Sure.

    • kirk says:

      IMHO “British media” ≠ “journalism,” esp where H-M are concerned. Gutless GMB is integral part of BRFCo & Assoc.

      Recall at the time of the May paparazzi chase incident Charlamagne said their building security had notified all occupants that paparazzi had been smashing into parked cars.

  3. Took them long enough. Hope they do arrest the two who were the problem. Now tell us where these salt isle paparazzi over here to cause the problem? Or where they something more sinister?

    • Berkeleyfarm says:

      Probably British nationals. It wouldn’t likely be to the level of extradition but those folks should stay away from NYC.

      But the wording that they had enough to bring charges was definitely sending a message to the other law enforcement agencies. “We know who did it and we have the receipts.”

  4. equality says:

    It’s about time.

    • ML says:

      Exactly. Better late than never, but this should have been the original story and the paparazzi’s should have been debunked immediately.

    • Just Jade says:

      Vindication at last and I am wondering if they will launch a criminal investigation against the pops. I also wonder if the BM rats had something to do with that chase.

  5. Jais says:

    The way I have no respect for anyone who smeared or belittled the Sussexes for that night. Acting like they were exaggerating and lying. And yeah, that includes Whoopi. I remember. Hope this gets lots of coverage and they actually charge the two people.

    • Caribbean says:

      I particularly was VERY disappointed in Whoopi…I am not saying that black people should not call out other black people for wrongdoing, but without evidence against them, black should support black people or shut up. That is where I think black people fail each other. the support is often lacking.

      • Nick G says:

        Whoopi is the first person I thought of when I read this and I really hope they discuss this new update on the show. They won’t.

      • equality says:

        She’s also another famous person who should realize how badly the paps can behave.

      • sevenblue says:

        Whoopi is a regular guest on british morning shows when she is there for work. No way she is siding with H&M against them. Everyone watches for their own interest in that industry.

      • HeatherC says:

        I wasn’t disappointed in Whoopi. I expected that from her. This is the woman who said what Roman Polanski did wasn’t “rape-rape” so he was okay, laughed at Ted Danson (then boyfriend) wearing black face to her roast at the Friars club…this is who she is. She’s shown us this for years. Decades.

    • Jules says:

      I thought of Whoopi too. Can’t decide if it would great if she admitted her error, or if it would just reignite a debate if opinions when the actual facts speak for themselves.

  6. WaterDragon says:

    That gold dress is one of my all-time favorite Meghan outfits. She looks absolutely gorgeous in it.

    • SweetButSalty says:

      I came here to say the same: she looked like a goddess. Dress, makeup, hair—check, check, check!

    • Shawna says:

      This p*sses me off all over again. It should have been a wonderful night.

      • Christine says:


      • BlueNailsBetty says:

        Exactly. And then Meghan had to cancel on another big event immediately after this. I can’t imagine the fear of being literally hunted like that.

      • Debbie says:

        I know, right? I know I was looking forward to reading about that event. It must have been so terrible for them to have Doria R. subjected to that level of harassment as well because she’s not in the entertainment business and Meghan would have felt so badly if her mother was hurt.

      • BothSidesNow says:

        @Shawna, ditto!!! Meghan should have been able to enjoy her night being honoured but the BRF&Co….they hate that Meghan is adored and honored! It really just gets under their skin that Meghan, and Harry, are treated and adored worldwide. I can’t wait for NYPD to arrest these bastards, I imagine that there are more than 2 players here, that were determined to cause them harm and I wouldn’t be surprised from which country they are from.

    • Anastasia says:

      Honestly, I want to love the dress, but it reminds me of the AmEx gold card dress someone wore to the Oscars in the 90s. That’s all I see.

      • Agreatreckoning says:

        The someone you are recalling wearing an AmEx gold dress is Lizzy Gardiner. Who, btw, won an Oscar for best costume design that year for Priscella Queen of the Desert that year. Very interesting stories if you choose to look them up. Lizzy’s AmEx Gold Card Dress was auctioned off for $12,650.00. Money that went to AIDS research. That’s all I see. Money going to AIDS research .

        If Meghan ever chose to auction off her dress, AIDS research would not be a bad choice. AT ALL.

  7. Mary Pester says:

    The whole media system in the UK is fkd up and corrupt. Even the police are getting in on the act.
    You feel like screaming at Charlie, WTAF is wrong with you, or are you trying to “Diana” your son and his wife.
    So well done willy and ravec and shame on you Charlie, you can all kiss goodbye to hosting invictus in 27, it ain’t happening, and the next time the media and the derangers scream and cry about why poor sick Charlie isn’t seeing his grandchildren, we can all ask, why he didn’t attend lillibets birthday in the UK, and WHY he didn’t interceed on Harry’s behalf, just like he has interceed on willy’s, to keep the truth from the press. William is going down Charlie, he is a disgrace, but the son who would have supported you, who SHOULD be held up as an example of how to do family, isn’t safe in his own country because of you, you snivelling coward.

    • MoBiMom says:

      For a man who claims to love Shakespeare, you would have thought that KC would have hooked into the King Lear vibe by now. Thank goodness H & M got themselves out of there, and I nominate Tyler Perry for sainthood!

      • WiththeAmerican says:

        I hope everyone is watching Tyler’s new show Mea Culpa, it is cheesy light suspense fun, on Netflix.

    • Joanne says:

      If I recall correctly, isn’t Charles personally paying for Andrew’s security? Yet, he pulled security from his son, DIL and grandchildren.

  8. Snaggletooth says:

    Oh this won’t add any fuel to the conspiracy theory fire raging on social media. Nope. Perfectly fine.

  9. Michelle says:

    After the NY “pap” chase and the shady decisions about Harry’s security in the UK, I believe Diana was murdered. The BRF wanted her gone and got rid of her.

    • Mary Pester says:

      @MICHELLE, Of course she was
      The whole thing was a cover up, even down to the crap excuse of why a certain official was in Paris that night.
      Speaking as a retired police officer I look closely at facts!
      They said Henri Paul was drunk and on drugs,
      Now how many drunk drug addicts do you know that could get up from a bar stool, where he was pictured drinking coffee, start to walk across the foyer, bend down, tie his shoe lace, then carry on walking as if nothing had happened?, he should have and if you believe them, would have, fallen flat on his face. How would he even realise his lace was undone!
      Why wasn’t Diana taken to the nearest hospital, why did it take so long to get her there, why were Henri Paul’s blood tests mixed up with someone else’s (wrong blood type) according to his father and doctor, why was the senior police officer investigating removed from the investigation, he was interviewed after he retired and where is Trevor Reece Jones, the bodyguard who Sat in the front of the car with Henri Paul
      Now, as trained body guard, would he have let his principal travel in a car being driven by a drunk! Because he would have smelt it.

      • Brassy Rebel says:

        And yet, we’re all supposed to be very confident that they will figure out what happened to Thomas Kingston. Whatever they try to sell there, I ain’t buying.

      • Michelle says:

        @marypester the fact that you feel the same way seals it for me! You are a QUEEN and expert on the royals, much more so than the so called “royal experts.” Thank you for weighing in.

      • BothSidesNow says:

        @Mary Pester, I didn’t know THESE details!!!! This is some shady stuff going on!! I have not been able to read any of the documents pertaining to the official investigation as they haven’t been released in the US that I know of. These are some extremely troubling details but I do remember that there had been a British official in Paris as they had been spying on Diana as Charles always kept a close eye on her, or the Men in Grey did. I am now looking at this in an entirely different light now.

    • WiththeAmerican says:

      Couldn’t agree more. I really suspected at the time exactly what Kaiser said, these were not all paps.

      They knew aggressive driving maneuvers too well.

      Someone was trying to harm the Sussexes. Someone tried and succeeded with Diana. Both posed a threat to a global institution that cavorted with Nazis and covered that up, benefited from slave trade and covered that up, stole from countries around the globe and covered that up.

      Anyone who thinks this institution wouldn’t plot to harm someone would need to explain how they reached that conclusion. and I am talking about the gray men not any royal, although Charles will forever wear the stain of pulling security from his son when he knew very well what happened to Diana without that same security.

    • Jaded says:

      Diana herself predicted her own death by accident…her words were ‘I think they are going to kill me. I am going to finish in an accident — helicopter, plane or car crash.’

      That still gives me chills.

    • Debbie says:

      Aren’t the paparazzi in England the people who acted to chastened when the eyes of the world were upon them after Diana’s tragic death? I absolutely believe that they came to Meghan’s event last May in order to report on it firsthand, or “better yet” harass them, from their point of view.

      And I believed the Sussexes’ version of events when it happened because the DM, which initially had the story up early on, just deleted it promptly and if they knew their version (minimizing the events) was truthful, they would have left it online without fear of any lawsuit.

  10. Saucy&Sassy says:

    We could tell that NYPD was taking their security quite seriously the last time H&M were in New York. There were no opportunities for pap shots. That’s the best part of this, because the people behind the car chase just made it harder to get photos. Too bad, so sad.

    • kirk says:

      Yes, I was thrilled to see britmedia whining about the Harry-Meghan convoy driving around the block to mental health day at Hudson Yards. I was especially thrilled to see DailyFail whinging “Eco warriors Prince Harry and Meghan take gas-guzzling, seven-car convoy around a SINGLE BLOCK…” Not that I actually look at DFail; those words just pop up on a Google search. I was also beyond thrilled when DFail felt worried enough about their $$$$$ pap shots in May they pulled them after statement by Sussexes.

  11. Laura D says:

    I said it then and I’ll say it again, they wanted those children orphaned. How often are Harry, Meghan and Doria in the same car at high profile events? Rain forests would have been decimated with stories about how St. Kate and St. Charles were doing their best to bring up Archie and Lili. All the while using them to hide William’s drinking, Kate’s unhappiness and redeeming Charles tattered image as a parent. Any typical childish tantrum by Archie and Lili would be on the front pages of every tabloid in the country. Which would be a welcome bonus for certain tabloid editors as an “accident” would also mean the court cases would go away.

    I’m so glad H&M hired professionals to look after their security. This decision has also made the decision made by the British courts look even more sinister. Harry is still quite close to the throne and to deny him top level security when there is enough evidence out there to show credible threats against him (and his family) quite simply beggars belief.

    • equality says:

      I’m sure H&M have locked down in their wills future guardians for A&L. The RF could, of course, try to contest, but I’m sure H&M have the best of attorneys looking after such matters.

    • sevenblue says:

      Lili’s godfather is the freaking Tyler Perry. No way they can get their hands on A&L while he is alive.

  12. Dee(2) says:

    This just makes the Ravec decision more preposterous. So another police force in another country can point out the heightened risks and respond accordingly, your won police force can acknowledge danger (MET), in addition to having police officers who were criminally charged for inciting violence against a party and they STILL don’t believe that warrants security? If they don’t want people to develop conspiracy theories stop doing everything to encourage them

    • jemmy says:

      @Dee(2) -“This just makes the Ravec decision more preposterous.”. Not really
      The goal from day one is for Meghan to stay and get unalived or chased away with marriage broken up as it was obvious Harry would never leave Meghan

      What they didnt factor was that Harry would leave with Meghan.

      today’s decision simply means that if Harry wants that level of protection, then he has to accept what comes with it , be a working member of the RF residing in the UK knowing fully well that the press will not relent in their trashing of Meghan. The only time he gets a reprieve is if Meghan is out of the picture.

      • Tessa says:

        Harry gets trashed also and before Meghan the media slammed him
        Thus is All in spare and I remember he was called the bad prince.

      • Tessa says:

        Harry travels by himself to the UK and still gets negative comments like derangers saying he shows up uninvited to visit his father

  13. Jayne says:

    D.A. Bragg, get on this ish!

  14. Amy Bee says:

    Yeah their upgraded police detail in NY last October was confirmation of how serious the chase was and that the city was not going to take any chances with their security. The British press reaction to the chase and Harry and Meghan’s subsequent visit to NY was proof that they had put out a bounty for photos.

    • North of Boston says:

      I don’t think it was simply photos someone was waving money for.
      That swarm seemed much more sinister

      • Amy Bee says:

        Princess Diana died because she was being chased by paparazzi who were getting a lot of money from the British press for photos of her and Dodi. This is why the paparazzi were chasing Harry and Meghan last May.

      • WiththeAmerican says:

        I agree. This report shows they trapped the vehicle with the couple in it. This kind of driving by NYC paps is not done.


  15. Nanea says:

    I love this official report for the delulu Derangers and their conspiracy theories.

    It’s not like the paps flew a helicopter to that Cotswolds’ house for pics of H&M’s bedroom, or used drones and boats to get photos of them on Vancouver Island. Or cut holes in TP’s fence in LA *and* used drones to get those infamous pics of Doria driving Archie around in the driveway of TP’s house etc etc. And the paps *and* the British gutter trash rags yelling they needed to know where H&M were staying each time they were in NYC, hence trying to compromise their security at all times.

    But the Sussexes are the problem. Sure.

    Just wait for Derangers, certain BM and rota 🐀🐀🐀 included, to come up with some sort of contorted idea why the Sussexes, who are reportedly “broke”, paid off the NYPD.

  16. Mary Pester says:

    Right Charlie you have the opportunity to step up and act like a father and a king. Harry is appealing this disgusting decision, so step up and do your fking job. You made sure Harry had a police escort when in suited you! So do it for the safety of your son, dil and grandchildren history and the world is watching.

    • WiththeAmerican says:

      This makes me so sad for Harry. To have a father who literally does not care if he lives or dies or is terrorized exactly as his mother was killed.

      • Where'sMyTiara says:

        Chuck’s behaviour in this matter is going to come back to bite him hard when he finds he needs to beg Harry to be a Regent to George.

        I hope Harry tells him to kick rocks.

  17. Harper says:

    I didn’t realize this confirmation of Harry and Meghan’s account came from the RAVEC decision. Does this mean the two suspects work for a British entity, and that is why the NYPD wrote to RAVEC? And still Ye Olde Retired Judge who ruled that RAVEC’s decision against Harry was fair ignored this proof? What a bunch of compromised lunatics. Harry and Meghan need to stay away from that island at least until CRex has bit the dust and Willy has been shoved out the door for the sake of the monarchy. Perhaps then saner heads will prevail.

    • Eurydice says:

      I read it as the intelligence report was offered by Harry’s lawyer to show that there are credible reasons why H&M require heightened security.

      • BothSidesNow says:

        @ Eurydice, IIRC there have been MET staff members that have supported the vast detailed threats against H&M for years now and yet this jackass of a judge is simply playing by the rules he was given by Chaz, no one else.

  18. Jay says:

    This is a good example of how the British media has their own little bubble, because the American media has always treated this seriously as far as I’m aware. You would have to be truly deranged to think that the Sussexes “set up” a car chase that could have had them killed.

    I’m also glad that this sets up such a bad look for the UK – just as they are whining that the Sussexes doesn’t really need protection, New York is like “Actually, they need more protection”.

    • Christine says:

      Especially in NYC, of all places.

    • WiththeAmerican says:

      Correct me if I’m wrong but at first U.S. media treated it like it was serious and the airwaves were flooded with “they’re so dramatic, that’s not what happened, attention seeking” lies.

      I hope the record is corrected now.

  19. Proud Mary says:

    NYPD sure did take it’s precious time; I guess better late than never. BTW, Kaiser, it was not just the British press insisting the Sussexes were lying, it was also that awful Whoopie Goldberg on the View. Because of their decisions to join in the hate campaign against Meghan, I have zero Fs to give for either her and or fors how propaganda operates.

  20. Walking the Walk says:

    Good. And I am glad that once again that they kept their mouth shut and were proven right.

  21. tamsin says:

    Have I missed something? Why is the story that they have enough evidence to arrest two people instead of a report of an actual arrest and charges? Have they found out who gave the orders or paid for the attempt to harm the Sussexes?

    • Shawna says:

      “Why is the story that they have enough evidence to arrest two people instead of a report of an actual arrest and charges?” This.

    • Jaded says:

      Yup. The US and UK have an extradition treaty that would allow them to arrest the 2 paps, who I’m sure are British, and bring them to the US for trial.

  22. Fifty-50 says:

    To all the people who are like “wow the NYPD took their sweet time.” I’m ever so sorry that investigations take actual time, manpower, and resources; so sorry that they aren’t liveblogged and judgments aren’t pronounced in Twitter time for your social media consumption.

    The execution of justice takes time. If you have a problem with that, please feel free to move to Russia.

    I’m glad the Sussexes were vindicated.

    • Eurydice says:

      People might be misunderstanding the article. The intelligence report from the NYPD to the Met Police was sent the beginning of December, but that doesn’t mean the investigation took that long. After all, there was already heightened security in place for H&M’s October visit, so the investigation might have taken a few months and then a bit more time to set up new security protocols, etc.

    • MsIam says:

      We’ve been watching too many episodes of Law and Order, lol.

      • Eurydice says:

        Really, it’s like the forensics on CSI – in 24 hours they had everything analyzed and caught the perpetrator. I sent the producers a suggestion once that the next stop in the franchise should be CSI-Boston, where we’ve had DNA samples sitting around since the 1980’s.

    • Sass says:

      I had nothing to say about this until I read your comment. Can we stop with the whole “you must be unpatriotic so you can gtfo if you have any criticism about the USA”. It’s immature and boring.

      • Fifty-50 says:

        Interesting response given that I was talking about democratic governments in general, but okay, sure. Glad to have made you bored.

    • bisynaptic says:


  23. Creek says:

    I’d say there are elements of the British Media who would absolutely love to see a Diana Paris crash repeat. They could milk it for years.

    • QuiteContrary says:

      And they’re so desperate for H&M content that they might even engineer a crash — or at least, minimize an incident like the one in NYC to diminish H&M’s credibility.

      I’m most of all relieved that the Sussexes have been vindicated — it makes it harder to get rid of them, and it makes the dangers they face clearer.

  24. aquarius64 says:

    I’m glad Harry and Meghan got this victory for their security. NYPD’s reputation took a hit with this incident so it was in its interest to come after them. NYPD will come after them and the FBI may be brought in. Once those two are arrested squeal and deal will go into effect: reduced jail time or immunity from prosecution if you name who hired you. Ask Ghilaine Maxwell how keeping quiet worked out for her. And if they are willing to do the time it means powerful forces were giving the orders that night.

    • bisynaptic says:

      Keeping quiet has worked out for Ghislaine Maxwell, in that she’s still alive. I suspect the others will be offered and take a Rebekah Brooks-or Andy Coulson-type deal—IF their names are ever even publicized.

  25. Brassy Rebel says:

    So now the Sussexes will have better security in New York than they get in London? Cool. And if the NYPD does have sufficient evidence to make arrests, what are they waiting for?

    • Eurydice says:

      Maybe the two are British nationals and back in the UK?

      • Brassy Rebel says:

        I believe we have an extradition treaty with GB. The report gives no indication that the process has been started.

      • MsIam says:

        I can’t see them doing extradition for this. Nobody died and the charges are basically traffic violations. Unless they get some evidence that this was an assumption attempt, I’m guessing it ends here unless they find the people are still in the US or they turn themselves in.

    • Sue says:

      I am guessing the people who could be charged are Brits and as long as they don’t show their noses in NYC, possibly even the USA there won’t be follow up. The charges are probably not serious enough, unfortunately, to merit extradition.

  26. Advisor2U says:

    Everything comes out in the wash in the end. I’m waiting for those who said that they were lying, with the footages before their eyes, to apologise. 3,2,1,… No? Of course not.

    That whole NYC chaotic chase was a planned hit job, I stick to that opinion.
    At the time, most of the media who were parroting the ”they lied” storyline, where spreading that narrative that was quickly set out by the UK tabloids, the Daily Mail in particular, who were the ones who, in a blink of the eyes, were desperately distracting the attention from the footages and pictures that clearly proved that they were chased and had to go in hiding at some point. They didn’t want the public to realise that some paps and others were there on a mission they were sent to accomplish (allegedly).

  27. zinjazin says:

    Okey but who was behind the chase?

  28. MsIam says:

    I’m glad the Sussexes were publicly vindicated. I hope they sue Backgrid or whoever that photo agency was because they admitted that their paps were involved.

  29. Chantale says:

    Someone should tell that Tom and Lorenzo website, which said that the Sussexes were exaggerating,. I used to be a fan of that site but they are so patronizing and condescending against H&M. They kind of implied they are not doing real work. No one is perfect, criticisms are fine when they are warranted and not because you do not like them and following toxic media talking points.

    • WiththeAmerican says:

      YouTube is a machine of hate against them. If you watch one video about British news, you are fed an entire catalogue of contempt against them.

      I have seen exactly what you’re describing, happen on sites I used to enjoy. It disgusts me. I guess it makes money for everyone to hate on certain people, but it’s no different than the hate on Britney that drove her over the edge or the bot hate against Amber. It’s always women.

      • Chantal1 says:

        @WithTheAmerican True but there are also multiple pro Sussex channels on YouTube that report positive Sussex news while also striking back against the BM lies and some channels do it daily. The algorithm tries to push the hate channels so I click the like button on the videos of those channels I watch and ignore the hate channels.

    • WiththeAmerican says:

      @chantal1 I’ll try to search for them then. If you have any to recommend please share.

      I keep clicking “do not recommend this channel” it takes easily 10 minutes every time I watch something to reject hate. Then when I finish that there are anti H and M ads. I don’t even want to use YouTube anymore, it’s so gross.

    • Mimi says:

      T&L are major Kate supporters who think she is stylish and regal, so that should tell you a lot about them and why they disdain Harry & Meghan. Some of their takes:

      **Harry wanted to be king, he’s jealous of William’s patronages (yes, they actually said that) and he was mad because he expected Meghan to be treated like Kate and that’s really why the two of them left.

      **Meghan trashed Kate in the Oprah interview. (I guess they were mad because its obvious only Kate’s team could have leaked that lie about Meghan making Kate cry).

      **They also vehemently reject any notion that Kate copies Meghan’s fashions because they reason that Kate is popular in the UK so why would she copy the fashions of someone that is hated.

      There’s no reasoning with those two.

  30. Berkeleyfarm says:

    I’ve followed the British royal family for decades (I am the age of the late Princess Diana so I guess I’m an Old now). I’m also pretty knowledgeable these days about the various other royal houses.

    In the increasing Harry vs The Firm split I was definitely inclined to believe/like Harry because in the time he met Meg he had really turned his life around and found direction. In semi-religious terms (because I am a churchlady, hopefully the fun kind) he was a man who had found his mission in life. To quote the Sermon on the Mount, “by their fruits you will know them”. Harry looked like he had found the real deal. (Also, I’m from California so was inclined to give my homegirl some space.)

    News of that chase broke while I was still awake on the west coast and I was stunned. I think my FB or twitter post was something along the lines of “Holy Mother of God, someone put out a hit on Prince Harry”. It made me rethink what might have actually gone down that weekend in Paris so many years ago. Did someone slip Diana’s driver a mickey? It was a real turning point in my understanding.

    The non-reaction from “palace sources” at the time was also very, very telling. I’ve been able to read a lot of the Windsor tea leaves for a while and … that said a lot.

    Anyway. The NYPD has far from a stellar record but they are definitely doing the right thing here. I’m glad they have been vindicated.

    • Christine says:

      I had the exact same thought when the news broke. This was during the height of the Sussexes flying completely under the radar and never getting photographed. The awards were the first time Harry and Meghan were going to be somewhere together (not Invictus related) that was released to the press way ahead of time.

      They had time to twirl their mustaches and plot, and none of it felt like an unfortunate accident.

      • Berkeleyfarm says:

        Yep. They knew they were going to be there and had plenty of time to plan. Same way his mother died. I was shook.

        So glad there was the combo of Good Driver/Police Cooperation/Harry’s clear head (they meant to scare him badly but he was in mf’ing Afghanistan) and they got out okay.

        It was a real turning point for me. And the deafening silence from the BRF spoke volumes as well.

        As a note I remember New Yorkers screaming about this and of course being put down by the Brits/bots/derangers. NYC prides itself on being “live and let live” about the many famous people who live/work there. Paps get their pics but pursuing is absolutely Not The Done Thing.

        (ETA: IIRC some of the pursuit things put bystanders in danger, doubly angering the NYC locals)

  31. tamsin says:

    I believe that the Sussexes got better security the last time in New York, but I also remember that they were doing an event with the Secretary of Health who would have official security as well.

    • kirk says:

      Surgeon General Vivek Murthy is below cabinet level at HHS. Not sure if he’s stirred up the right-wing crazies enough to warrant security afforded to bureaucrats like Anthony Fauci.

  32. Izzy says:

    I doubt there will be an arrest because the paps were likely from the UK, but if their identities are known and they are not US citizens, they should be barred from entering the US ever again.

  33. Saucy&Sassy says:

    So, Harry doesn’t get proper security while in the UK? I thought that the UK was putting in a bid for the Invictus Games. Hmmmmmm…what’s wrong with this picture?

    • Debbie says:

      I think the theme the UK is going for (by putting in a bid for Invictus without providing security) is “Accidents happen”?

  34. phlyfiremama says:

    He gets denied protection in the UK while NYPD entirely makes the case that in fact, H&M are so popular that they NEED intense security around them. Those fu#king Windsors, and their dangerous and deliberately endangering siccing of their media dogs on H&M, is just too much. H&M, just peace out from those would be murderers and please don’t endanger your children by exposing them to those vipers.

  35. AC says:

    I knew something was up when those idiotic BM have been dead silent on this . Karmas again a B.
    The world gets to see how idiotic they truly are. How would any foreign dignitary visiting the UK feel safe with this mess and blatant favoritism tbh. 🙄🙄🙄

  36. bisynaptic says:

    WTH took them this long? This is really too little, too late.

  37. AC says:

    Also these paps or whoever they truly are endangered the American public(which I remembered hearing on CNN back then). I won’t be surprised if they will start charging/arresting people soon-since to me, it seems the 2 they want to charge is from another country(prob most likely from the UK), considering NYPD sent the letter to the Met Police in London giving them a heads up.
    If I had to guess and in my opinion, I’m thinking those people are trying to get some diplomatic immunity BS and that’s why it’s taking longer to charge them (not to mention the trash BM has been dead silent about this). But after 9/11 you don’t mess with NYC they don’t care who the hell you are.

    • Beverley says:

      Ha! The NY Post is little better than a tabloid. Just like them to contradict a judge’s findings for a couple of clicks.