This week, the Telegraph did an interview with children’s clothing designer Amaia Arrieta, who has operated the Amaia London line of kids’ clothing for many years. The clothing line is very popular in general, even more so now that Prince William and Kate’s children are regularly photographed in Amaia London clothes. There’s a timeless quality to some of the pieces, but there’s also something vaguely 1940s about still insisting little boys wear shorts or knickerbockers with high socks. But I digress. I didn’t know that Amaia Arrieta is a Spanish-born designer who used to import Spanish kids’ clothes to the UK. I also didn’t know that she was so close with William, Kate and Nanny Maria. Some highlights from this Telegraph piece:
Dressing the Wales kids: ‘Dressing the royals gives me so much pride, I really do care about how they look,’ reflects Arrieta. ‘I’m heartbroken at the moment, I think they are going through hell, I hope they will be back. It’s really personal.’
Looking for traditional clothes for kids: Arrieta founded Amaia ‘out of necessity’. Spanish-born, she had just given up a career in international finance in London when she was expecting her first child 20 years ago. ‘I started to look for kids’ clothing and I couldn’t really find the equivalent of what I would have in Spain so I would go to Spain, buy everything there and come back to London. Then all my friends would say “Oh, that’s so cute, I want the same”.’
Kate found about the fashion line through Lady Serena Linley: Members of the Royal family were clients long before William and Catherine started their family. Although it’s often assumed that the connection came from the Waleses’ Spanish nanny Maria Borrallo, it was in fact Lady Serena Linley (the former wife of Princess Margaret’s son, David Armstrong Jones, now the Earl of Snowdon) and her children’s nanny Jessie Webb, a regular visitor to Amaia’s Chelsea store, who helped introduce the now Princess of Wales to Arrieta’s designs. Webb had previously cared for William and Harry and was drafted in to help with George in the early days.
She works closely with Nanny Maria: Now Arrieta works closely with Borrallo to find the perfect outfits for the children. ‘It’s often a very tight deadline,’ Arrieta explains, hinting at the intense preparation which goes on behind the scenes to create the picture-perfect moments for which the family is renowned. ‘We would do anything for them… the children always look amazing in the end.’
“I’m heartbroken at the moment, I think they are going through hell, I hope they will be back.” That’s truly more than anyone else has said about what’s going on behind the scenes, and it’s certainly not how William is representing Kate’s health these days. I also think it’s notable that Amaia works so closely with Maria Borrallo on the kids’ clothes, and that there’s a Spanish connection.
Speaking of Spanish connections, remember Concha Calleja? She’s the Spanish journalist who claimed, back in late January, that the Princess of Wales had been put into a medically induced coma at one point and that Kate’s condition was a lot more severe than the palace claimed. It took a week for Kensington Palace to deny the coma story using unnamed sources. But Calleja stuck with her reporting – she never backed down. This week, Concha Calleja spoke up again and said that “Kate is not well” and that the last time the public had a “real image” of Kate was Christmas 2023. Calleja also believes that Kate’s cancer-announcement video was manipulated, likely with AI technology. I did not have “mysterious Spanish-connected gossip” on my royal bingo card, but here we are.
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Kate has friends?
No pic of designer or her store? Umm
No. The headline should be corrected to: “Owner of Store Kate Orders Online From Occasionally Because Her Nanny Mentioned It.”
A commented the same below after you. Neither of the women mentioned here are her friends. They are suppliers and employees, and yet there is a noticeable effort to picture her being surrounded by friends.
Exactly!
I think she’s more friend with Nanny Maria than with Kate, it sounds like it anyway.
For sure. It’s weird and shady that she claims to plan to dress the children since the children are wearing the same clothes in their pictures. Shady too the “picture-perfect moments for which the family is renowned.” Lol.
“Now Arrieta works closely with Borrallo to find the perfect outfits for the children. ‘It’s often a very tight deadline,’ Arrieta explains, hinting at the intense preparation which goes on behind the scenes to create the picture-perfect moments for which the family is renowned.”
I mean you’re right, @withtheamerican, bc it is kind of shady for her to talk about working with the nanny and not the mother to find the perfect outfits. Like she didn’t have to say it that way. It may be true but saying it to the Telegraph does undermine Kate’s image as hands-on. This is messy.
I’m trying to remember, though, where I read that Nanny Maria was fired. Was I wrong?
That’s never been confirmed that she was fired. People have gossiped about it online but there’s nothing definitive from what I can tell. For all we know she’s still the nanny?
@Jais, sorry this is so late, I thought I replied to you earlier — I really thought that was a lot, like the nanny is working with the stylist? Is that because Kate can’t be bothered or because Kate can’t right now?
Kate always struck me as overly concerned with how her kids are dressed. I can’t see why she wouldn’t be involved.
@therese, I don’t think they could ever do without Nanny Maria but perhaps you think she’s been fired because when they moved Kate in Adelaide Cottage they were insisting that there wouldn’t be enough place to house Nanny Maria there. I could see the Wales having Nanny Maria coming and leaving AC everyday just so that she can take care of the children throughout the day (when they’re not at school)
It sounds more like, to me, that Nanny Maria is being thrown under the bus for how the WanK’s choose to dress their children in an older style. I’m sure it was Nanny Maria’s fault for the WanK’s dressing on the jeep colonial cosplay in Jamaica. /s
Nanny Maria is the one good thing about the WanKs. She’s professionally educated and from the minor interactions I’ve seen…truly cares about the children.
Okay, jab at me. Harry was known to wear basically the same outfit 90% of the time when he did royal engagements. The difference is (also the reason why or another nail in the coffin of Angela Levin’s b*llshit didn’t happen interview-is Harry was known to wear the same attire), that we’re now discussing the Wank’s children clothing. Sad state of affairs encouraged by the BRITISH “MEDIA”.
My first thought as well. She doesn’t have friends. She can barely keep staff.
Wow they are going through hell. You would have thought she would have stuck with the Can’t is doing well nonsense. Will she be called out on that little statement and have to walk it back? We shall see.
It obviously sounds like Amaia and Maria gossip about the Waleses and some of that info might even trickle down to Concha. But now that I read it again, I’m not sure going through hell refers to her health or her health alone. It could be about their marriage, or Egg’s mental state and its effect on Kate and the kids.
Either way I wonder if she will have to walk that statement back because it’s not the happy family that they are trying to portray.
Yeah, the article headline made me think she meant, “they’re going through hell [with the cancer diagnosis]; I hope they will be back [to regular, i.e. healthy, form].”
But the broader context of the comments in the article made it sound like she meant, “They are going through hell [with all the where’s-Kate rumors etc.]” – in other words, the same shame-on-the-world-for-caring-enough-to-wonder-where-a-missing-princess-was garbage the BM tried to throw at everyone after the cancer announcement.
And the “I hope they will be back” sounded to me more like, “I hope they will be back to shop at my store again soon” which felt really tacky to me! Definitely not a friend’s comments, and definitely not authorized.
The wording really is a lot. They’re going through hell. It’s really personal. I hope they’ll be back. Huh? Charles and Kate both have cancer and yet no one has spoken like that about Charles. And why hope they’ll be back? Kate is the one who’s sick. William isn’t going anywhere. So what? She’s saying she hopes Kate’s health isn’t so bad that she’ll never come back? People who have cancer can come back? They’re not locked away forever. Once again, I hope Kate makes a healthy recovery but this is insinuating she may be too sick to return ever or there’s something else going on. Hoping they’ll be back could be a reference to the marriage. Honestly, that’d be better at this point than saying she won’t be back ever for health reasons.
Yes, there’s blatantly much more going on than “she had (past tense) a patch of cancer which was successfully removed months ago, and is now doing adjunct chemo to make sure it doesn’t come back.”
Charles is elderly and actively has cancer but he’s still working and being visible.
Yeah W&K are going to be furious about this. It’s refreshing for someone to be so transparent, but I’m sure she’ll catch hell from W&K. I wonder if she’ll walk it back, or if Kate will stop buying her clothes.
“I hope they will be back” is particularly ominous, JFC
Her statement kind of reads to me like English as a second language? I’m not sure her level of fluency. I can see the statement to mean:
“They are going through hell” (self explanatory, it’s a really hard time for them)
“It is really personal” (it’s very private so I can’t say more)
“I hope they will be back” (I hope to see them back soon, (in my shop) back to normal dressing then for events, etc)
As always, William gets an excused absence for the year because his wife is sick. Oh, but he can attend sporting events and celeb events.
@Friday: she had a career in international finance in London; I’m sure her English is just fine. And I think it’s as somebody suggested above, she & Nanny Maria gossip from time to time. ‘Going through hell’ is info from Maria.
Yea no @Friday people who speak a second language definitely can distinguish the heaviness of the word “hell”. Enfer, infierno etc.. I have been speaking a second language for 20 years which I’m sure this woman has been doing in the least. Even in my early days I would have known the heaviness of such a word.
She is not Kate’s amiga.
Sometimes I think, man, what nanny Maria and other close staff must’ve seen over the years. I do think they gossip together and it’s spilling out here. It’s still vague enough that it could be so many things but it’s keeping the things are really weird vibe alive.
The way I read the article, Kate is a customer of this woman, not a “friend.” “I hope they’ll be back” simply means “back” to buy from her establishment again. That’s how businesses talk about customers, so I think that’s what the statement means — I hope they come back to my store.
“They” are not having problems, The Duchess of Missington is having problems.
How long can The Duke of Missington excuse his lack of work ethic by appropriating her problems as his own?
I give him a solid year, even Murdouch will be calling him out by this December
If KP would have people believe that Kate is just having follow-up treatments and that the video of Kate striding along and looking okay was real, this woman’s comments make no sense. It also doesn’t make sense to say this woman is a close friend of Kate’s and then go on about how she actually works with the nanny to dress the children. Her comment is she “thinks” they are going through hell. Is she basing this on insider knowledge from the nanny or is she basing it on the video and the announcement of cancer?
“I hope they will be back” makes sense if Kate and Will are both doing residential treatment programs. Doing one of those still carries a lot of stigma so I can sort of understand William’s desire for secrecy, especially if he’s in one too for something like alcohol.
Remember when Mike Tindall called William “one pint”? Well, anyone with eyes can see that William drinks significantly more than that. I think Mike was making an allusion to the fact that William can’t handle his alcohol/ has an alcohol problem. Someone with an alcohol problem who is let out of a residential program for the day to do an event would probably want to get plastered at said event, if they could, before returning.
Kate obviously wasn’t taking in enough calories for more than a year before her disappearance- which would explain her erratic public behavior and hair loss/ wigs and could even lead to things like organ failure/ need for emergency surgeries. During which cancer could be found and removed etc. Recovery from an ED, even in a program can take an indeterminate amount of months. If it’s successful at all.
So that’s the theory I’ve had for a while now, so far everything seems to fit with it.
If it’s alcohol treatment, surely someone would have stopped him doing an event at a pub.
I’d take that theory a step further: wherever Kate is, Will isn’t allowed near her because *he* is her trigger.
So they’re not just hiding that they’re separated, they’re hiding that they literally cannot be in the same room with each other.
I hadn’t thought of that but it makes sense. I mean, I think we all agree that William was behind all the alleged sightings except the one with Carole Middleton in the car.
Remember his one time visit to the hospital? If he’s not allowed to see her because some responsible professionals have put their foot down, that would explain the obvious farce of his 15 minute visit.
@Tankerbelle I don’t even believe the sighting of Kate with her mom at this point. That picture was really suspect. Some couldn’t even tell if it was really Kate or even Pippa. It had 5 tires. It looked like her face was also intentionally blurred when compared to the clarity of Carol’s. I think it was possibly AI generated or even an old photo of Carol and Pippa. The 5 tires is a dead giveaway though that it was manipulated. TMZ was also fed the story of the body double at the Farm store video (along with the SUN). There could have been other reasons William didn’t want the rota publishing that picture or why he specifically worked with TMZ instead of them. It could have been for the simple reason the rota are over familiar with them and they would have been asking questions. I dunno. But I believe it was also planted by KP.
@Julianna re the weirdo pic of Kate and her mom in the car I do believe in that one- although, as you say, Kate’s face could have been blurred. It looks like Kate to me, albeit puffy, and it seems like the sort of stunt Carole would pull, “My daughter is alive! She did nothing wrong! She doesn’t want to hide.” That sort of thing. The fact that William obviously forbade it also gives it some credibility.
I’ve always thought the farm store video was William and a different non-Kate woman. I suspect it was staged with employees who had no idea they were participating in something duplicitous, just told to look away so it’d be more “natural.” When we all know that if that had been Kate many other people would have spilled to the press about seeing her there by now.
Is Kate in a persistent vegetative state somewhere, or stroked out and unable to talk or feed herself? I doubt she’s actually dead, but …
@Agnes, this is my theory as well… either comatose or stroked out.
Honestly @Agnes it’s giving exactly that. Is she alive? Is she walking? Is she coherent? I’m sure she is, but why on earth are the press persisting on trying to paper over the cracks?
We are yet to see an unaltered video of Kitty in the flesh. She hasn’t been seen in a reliable state since Christmas. KP can protest privacy all they like, but they are funded by the taxpayers.
I believe Concha Cajella’s claim that Kate was in a coma at some point. I also mentioned, under a different post, a panel of doctors speculating that she might still be in that state, or else suffered a stroke that left her physically and mentally debilitated. Or maybe it’s just divorce, or both. Who knows?
I believe her too. Concha was extremely confident and we have seen nothing that has proven her wrong. I doubt Kate is still in a coma but, as others have said, it is a long recovery with an uncertain timeline: thus all the sketchiness. If she had some sort of stroke, it’s also possible she has had facial and speech changes that they are trying to treat (would explain puffy face photo perhaps?), which, again points to hiding from cameras and an uncertain timeline.
I think they have been separated and he was hoping to keep that under wraps so this has caused an extra level of sketchy messaging.
I believe her over anyone involved with the British press and media outlets.. until there is credible real-time proof of life that says otherwise. She is the most believable imo.
So I actually am close to someone who was in a medically induced coma. Recovery is NOT quick. She had to learn how to breathe again, learn how to talk again, learn how to walk again. It took MONTHS of intensive care to get her to where she was before the coma.
Coma’s aren’t like how they are portrayed on screen where you can just go in and out of one. It resets your entire life.
So if for any reason a Coma was involved here….I could see why she wouldn’t be seen for a while. Not saying that is the explanation but from personal experience I can vouch that recovery is HARD.
I know someone who was in a medically induced coma last summer. He is a lot older, but after the lengthy hospital stay, he went to a rehab centre to relearn things like walking and other movements. He managed to be home by Christmas, but he has significant nursing help for that. He has since resumed walking and talking but his energy isn’t what it was. And he was doing memory exercises because that was affected too. He was told at least a year of recovery.
The bench video counters the recovery time she would need from a medically induced coma. I guess that’s why some question it.
This!!!! This!!!!! Both of your comments are exactly how I have seen someone who was put in an induced coma and bought out of it. They actually looked like a small child’s drawing (triangle with legs at the bottom of the sides of the triangle, if that makes sense). Their fluid levels had completely changed them,amongst everything else. I really despise the movies that show someone just opening their eyes, and looking perfect, as if they have just had a really good, long sleep. It’s heartbreakingly different imo.
Oh no,does she realise they will cut her off for such a quote. If English is not her first language It can explain why it could be exaggerated.
Is Nanny Maria still around? She could be speaking on her behalf. The kids seem to be wearing more normal clothes these days, anyways.
Is anyone else surprised we haven’t seen any pap shots of the school run or quotes from parents at the school? Normally not a fan of those, but it would actually be reassuring.
Idk, the Spanish-language article Kaiser linked goes even further, saying not only that Kate is “not well,” but alleges that every image released in 2024, from the Carole car pic to the cancer video, is fakity fake.
My guess is having lived in London, selling to aristos for more than 10y, the source is fluent in English. I think she’d know exactly what saying this would mean?
I was thinking the same thing. She worked in international finance in London for quite some time, before having her kids & then setting up shop. Her English is more than fine, no doubt.
I distrust every photo/video in this drama, but I’m inclined to believe the photo with CarolE was real though possibly photoshopped to hide its location.
Ma Midds absolutely arranged that photo (the car was stopped), and she looked downright GRIM knowing a photo was being taken. I think whatever was/is wrong with Khate has to do with Will, and the royals are hell bent on protecting the heir (even if they’re also sidelining him). That photo strikes me as CarolE dragging her daughter into that car and arranging the pap shot as a warning to the Windsors that the Kate and the Middletons will be protected/rewarded or else they’ll let the truth out.
I am inclined to believe the photo with Carole is the most accurate of the bunch. The location is what might be fudged there.
They don’t sound like they’re “friends” and really, she sounds likes she’s promoting her business.
Yep. And, cynical thought: If she’s selling classic children’s clothes, it’s quite possible that the Wales kids are aging out of what she sells — so this is a chance for her to get some publicity for her shop while the kids are still wearing the clothes for publicly released photos.
Agreed. I went and looked at the website (so she did get that traffic from me, lol) and thought….these are cute dresses for little girls. not for 10 year old girls. I don’t know a single 10 year old girl who would wear one of those dresses unless their mom made them for church or something. Maybe that’s the audience though? Church clothes?
I’m not in the camp that believes Kate is dead, but maybe this designer knows that for whatever reason, Kate won’t be the one shopping for the children’s clothes anymore, so she felt comfortable giving this interview…?
The children are dressed in the same style of clothes year after year, portrait after portrait. I’m not sure how much “down to the wire” is actually involved when it’s a policy. Order clothes online, make sure they fit the child, done. I
I looked at the website also and sizing goes up to 10Y. Charlotte definitely wears lots of the type of blouses and coats and Louis still has some years to age out these styles. The dresses are really what Charlotte used to wear. I’m really leaning to her motivated by getting interest in her business, but found the Spanish connection interesting.
When The Telegraph’s fashion director comes to you to write a news story on dressing the Wales children why wouldn’t you cooperate? No one says no to free advertising provided by a prominent newspaper. Who would have thought that, in month five of KateGate, it’d be Bethan Holt, Telegraph Fashion Director publishing some piping hot tea from Amaia Arrieta on the MIA princess. (Would the rota ever have printed that Kate was going through hell?)
This article came out yesterday morning; too bad Huevo let his office staff have the day off and was thus unable to get this taken down before Kaiser spotted it and gave it the attention it deserves.
Does anyone doubt that Kate is going through some sort of hell? It’s just notable that someone said it in the press.
I feel like Tina Brown has alluded to that.
I read on another message board (a UK one) that someone said they heard from a British journalist that Kate had part of her esophagus removed. This was posted I believe pre the cancer vid announcement. If this is true and she has esophageal cancer, that’s bad bad news for Kate. Very grim prognosis. Murad Merali keeps saying on his YT channel that’s he’s heard she had various/many things removed. Who knows. I don’t think any of this has to do with divorce. They would just come out and say they’re getting divorced. I think this 100% has to do with Kate either having a bad cancer/prognosis or the coma/stroke story.
Yeah, Kate’s a client that’s all.
I fully believe that Kate is extremely unwell. Cancer is horrific. The treatment is horrific. I hope she has a good support system behind the scenes.
I also believe that William is behind all the fakata photo fails, including ridiculous statements like ‘this obviously old photo was taken by Kate just yesterday!’. He is a dim bulb who believes he is the brightest in the room.
If the nanny picks out clothes for the children then I am not seeing the hands on parenting that the British papers claim the wales are renowned for
Yeah, Kate being a hand’s mother is a myth. She does the school and goes to school events but the day-to-day caring for the children is likely done by the nanny.
It’s super confusing to see this claim that so much effort and planning goes into their clothing, when just yesterday the explanation for Charlotte being in the same clothes like Louis was from earlier photos was that the children wear the same clothes all of the time.
It is possible that the child likes the cardigan, she is old enough to choose what she wears.
Rosa, it wasn’t just Charlotte in the same clothes. Louis was in the same shirt in his birthday photo as in the mothering day photo, which some people say is traced to clothes they wore at the baby bank.
certainly after these clothes were in the fake photo scandal, a stylist and the parents would pick something else.
It sounds like all of you who said her condition is much worse than they let on were right. But why hide it to this degree? She is not head of state and she never will be. What do they expect will happen, when she doesn’t get better or she doesn’t want to appear in public again for some reason? Why not just say it?
A minor detail, the Lady Serena Linley connection? They are trying to frame it like she and Kate were friends, while it was the nannies who shared their procurement contacts. Arrieta is not Kate’s friend either, she is a supplier and has a friendly relationship with the nanny . She and Maria are def Concha’s sources, directly or indirectly. I wonder if they blew the lid off of that connection now and how Egg will react.
Because it could be something to do with the heir, Peg. He’s to be protected at all costs. Remember that headline, what would happen if peg is charged for a crime?
So, something that popped into my head – and it might have been from a comment on here, lol – was if her condition really IS a lot worse than they’re telling us, like if she’s actually dying – they may have wanted to avoid a “death watch” and just give Kate the final few months to spend with her family.
Of course that doesn’t fit with William’s behavior though…..
I don’t know, Becks, this theory might actually fit with William’s behavior. He may not be all that sad about it, though… the stories write themselves about the widower king – way better than divorced king.
@Becks, good theory…I mean, most of us would understand that William’s behavior doesn’t look great, but I guess the argument could be made that, for example, he took George and his friend to that game to try and keep some normality in the kids’ lives, and to give them a break from the stress of living with an ill mother? It’s William, though, so whoTF knows what anything he does means.
I agree with this – and that may explain why the kids are not visible either. When my friend was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, they took the kids out of school and spent as much quality time as they could – and lots of travelling.
Yeah, Kate has no friends. They’re still trying to make her seem like a regular person and she’s just not. Never has been.
And yeah, I could see them not wanting to create a public death watch for Kate. That could explain William’s initial freakout. Doesn’t explain his recent behavior, but maybe he’s numb now?
There’s a part of “Harry and Meghan” (we’re all familiar with), where Meghan shares that Beyonce said they’re breaking generational curses with the path they’ve chosen. That is a real thing, to watch generation after generation be plagued by the same trauma or different iterations of it. And it is possible for siblings to approach a fork in the road and one break those chains while the other unintentionally continues that legacy because they don’t do the work or get the help they need to break free. I feel for the Wales children. Stuck in a cycle of privilege and trauma.
“I feel for the Wales children. Stuck in a cycle of privilege and trauma.”
Yes, it’s a sad state of affairs.
What is Kate’s definition of going through hell. I thought the walk about with Meghan was the hardest thing she has ever done.
I’m seeing more talk lately on YouTube that Kate is alive but “won’t be back” as a “working” royal. This is looking more and more likely as time goes on without a sighting. Her comment about “I hope they will be back” tracks with this.
Well people on here have been saying that since January, YouTubers have nothing on us, lol.
I think Kate was already being slowly phased out prior to her health incident. Between her parent’s bankruptcy, William’s obvious disdain for her, her unhealthy appearances at times, and the stories about her just wanting an Aga stove in the country. All of these things were telegraphing a slow fade out. That doesn’t even get into the separation cottage and the “pressure” on Kate after H&M left or the hot single dad William nonsense.
I saw that in a Times piece today, not that she would never be back but it would be a long time.
I think that’s been obvious from the shady, secretive way this all went down and then was covered up with AI fake photos etc.
So much for everyone with eyes being a conspiracy theorist.
I saw that as well on Murad Merali’s YT channel. Very sinister and grim. No surprise, we all knew there was a coverup from the start of this mess, KP was spreading such obvious red herrings. You just can’t disappear the Princess of Wales, string the public along with false photos and videos, and expect that people won’t question this. It’ll be interesting to see their strategy going forward.
I’m still waiting for proof of life. In my eyes she hasn’t been seen since last year. I’m no conspiracy theorist but I’m genuinely concerned about her.I don’t see how they think it’s not suspicious that the future queen has been missing for almost half a year.
Sit back and get comfortable, because I think you will be waiting a long time.
It’s been distressing from the very beginning. We “know” Kate. We “know” MaMidds. If there was an opportunity to be making a campaign of her convalescence you know she would. Not waving from a car window at the start of this was an immediate sign all was not well and each month that goes by with all this fakery is legitimately scary.
This person doesn’t actually appear to personally know what’s going on. I doubt she’s actually a friend
The more the palace denies something, the more the truth is the opposite, this is why I think that Kate condition is far worst than what they are saying.
It’s clear that there is more to the story than we are being told – like why she had abominable surgery in the first place. Something serious happened at Christmas and am inclined to believe it was a mix of a mental health and physical crisis. Am also not convinced she will ever return to public life regardless of how she recovers.
@digital – same.
This.
There is a reason that they are hiding how poorly she is doing or her death. I think it’s likely because the cause of the medical emergency on the 28th is something self inflicted. Perhaps an overdose, or alcohol related, or attempt on her own life. Something that carries stigma.
Or they are protecting William… something William did.
+2
Maybe abdominal but definitely abominable surgery!😏
I wonder if KP spelled abdominal wrong when they fed the speech script to the AI. Or if the AI voice over just got confused by all the mumbling speeches they fed it.
So the nanny is involved but not their mother?
And ‘hope they will be back’ so there is a chance they won’t?
She seems more worried than Wills who was watching footie on the day of his daughters birthday.
@Inge Willy looked happy at the footie which hopefully indicates his wife is NOT at death’s door. In fact he looked much better at the public events he’s attended over the last two weeks. He looked terrible in Feb and March which was concerning.
Or it does, which is gruesome.
Or maybe he’s relieved that Kate could be in such a dire situation, knowing he’ll be rid of her. He was probably terrified months ago at the beginning in the event that this could come out, but he now knows he’s covered and protected as the heir if he had any involvement in her condition. It’s terrible to say, but his recent behavior indicates that he doesn’t have a care in the world and he’s just going on with his bachelor ways despite his wife’s medical condition and lengthy absence.
Exactly @Feeshalori. He knows he is protected. He isnt worried anymore. He put out that AI cancer video to shut everyone up and got away with it. And exactly why he has refused to “work” but doesnt hesitate to show up to his favorite Vila game. William does whatever the hell he wants and doesn’t care about anyone but himself.
A CBer suggested that outright, at the beginning when her surgery was announced, I can’t remember who…
Arrieta is gossiping about Kate’s health under her own name? Surely the royals will instantly stop buying clothes from her. What on Earth is she thinking?
Or have the Wales already cut her off (maybe for suspicion of leaking to Calleja) and this gossip is retaliation?
She probably thinks her comments are supportive.
Or she is retiring.
Kate really doesn’t have any friends…that woman is not her friend and clearly isn’t close enough to see her. Saying “I hope they will be back” where? They never were gone to begin with and they don’t usually work enough to qualify they are missed all of that much to begin with. She herself says she works mostly with the nanny so she doesn’t even know that woman to begin with…
It’s like Huevo’s friend only talk about how he hates his brother, Kate’s imaginery friends are all about how they hope she’s appear…like she’s some ghost.
I’ve been following all the comments on here and there is something basic I don’t understand. Why is Kate’s condition, regardless of what it truly is, kept secret? Even King Charles is basically upfront about his health. I don’t understand the need for secrecy for Kate.
Because if something serious happened and if William may have been the cause of her condition, as heir he will be protected at all costs.
🎯 This is it. ALL of the actions taken since this started have been in service of protecting William and Charles. They are protecting William from…something. His reputation? His illegal actions? Even just his marriage? We don’t know but we do know that Kate is a footnote in all of this and all of this has tried to give William cover.
Meanwhile, Charles and William are not in contact. Charles is avoiding William and keeping William semi-locked down. William is persona non grata at BP. And that is huge. Whatever William did would reflect badly on Charles (at least in Charles’s mind).
William has done something wrong and all of this drama is about protecting him from public scrutiny, legal scrutiny (?), and from himself.
I agree with the others. They’re “protecting” Kate to protect William.
It could also just be W&K’s freakish obsession with privacy. They don’t think they owe the peasants any information whatsoever about their lives.
Something really sordid went down between Kate and William — what it was is anyone’s guess — but it was bad enough to turn William into the family pariah and for KP to create a tissue of lies, fake photos and videos, and a complete clampdown on the truth about Kate’s illness. William’s still clearly in the doghouse and the BRF has circled their wagons against any leak of information about his involvement in Kate’s disappearance. The heir must be protected at all costs even though he’s a liability.
Agree, Jais. It’s so obvious William has not been seen with his father for months, even before Christmas walk he and Kate skipped Charles’ lunch and Charles skipped Kates carols.
Now it’s all Charles siding with Kate propaganda, no William and Charles seen.
I’ve no clue what went down, but it’s 100% not what they’ve fed the public.
Nor do I. Charles has been very up front. She could become a spokesperson for the organization that pertains to her illness My husband (retired Pathologist) and me Ret. NP think is Ulcerative Colitis, or Crohn’s disease requiring a colostomy. No shame in a colostomy or ileostomy but difficult for kids to see early on. She could be like numerous stars talking about mental health, breast cancer and no one like a colonoscopy but Katie Curic spoke about it. No shame in any illness. I do remember patients being embarrassed when bag required changing but, no shame. She could do so much good, when she is better.
I said this at the beginning and still stick to it. Sometime later this spring/summer, an announcement will be made that Kate will retire from public life due to “her health.
It will be WILD if that really happens, and Kate disappears from public life. I just assumed we’d be here making fun of her buttons and wiglets for years to come…the thought that something might be so seriously wrong with her that we just don’t see her anymore is upsetting.
I think there will be an update announcement in July as that is 2 years on from separation relocation to Ade Cottage. I can’t imagine Billy boy having the brass neck to put out a statement announcing that he’s divorcing Kate in the best interests of the UK having an active Princess to represent them on the world stage, but who knows where his stupidity will lead him?
@lorelei
I welcome Waitys disappearance.
A Guest, this is definitely a real possibility. I continue to think that divorce negotiations are on the table. It’s quite possible that Bone Idle knew there would be an announcement at the beginning of this year. She certainly could have had surgery and had to recover from that. She certainly could have had preventative chemo.
Many people here have said for years that Billy Idle wouldn’t divorce unless he had the new wife waiting in the wings. I think this is entirely possible. If so, I can see where there would be an announcement that Bone Idle would not be doing any future public duties due to health. A divorce could ultimately follow that.
This feels like a puff piece on the Wales kids’ clothing that had an unexpected nugget of truth. Take a media naive source from their wider circle and ask about Kate and OOPS, the truth starts to trickle out. Unintended journalism there by the Telegraph that mysteriously has not been picked up anywhere else as an update on Kate’s health.
Amaia may not even know what is wrong with Kate, but she could be repeating the dire messages that Nanny Maria is emoting to her inner circle. I don’t think it’s cancer hell; I think it’s the coma recovery that isn’t going well or meeting the milestones that are necessary. Concha continues to stand by her reporting to this day.
I’m curious as to the use of “they”” are going through hell. Why they? Why not ” she” is going through hell.? More questions than answers.
It’s like they can’t wait to be able to spill the beans 🫘.
You would think Amaia would be little more careful with her phrasing but I’m going to assume that she got permission from KP to speak to the press about the Waleses and their nanny. Or was this interview done before Kate’s announcement?
If KP gave her permission to speak, then why would William be going around saying “All is well?” Because she’s saying the exact opposite, unless this interview was a long time ago like you said. Its crazy because KP is saying Kate is taking pictures and going to see her kids play sports. Someone is lying about something. And that’s why its unfair to label people as “conspiracy theorists” because they question what’s going on. There are too many conflicting stories out there, but we know KP lies so…..
I don’t believe any of the pictures have ever been Kate either. I know some believe the car pic with Carol might be real because of the royal rota not using it. But it’s not real IMO either. 5 tires…. Yea, I think a lot of these pics and videos are AI generated. I do agree we have not seen Kate since Christmas.
I also believe they are hiding Kate’s real condition and illness because it could expose William. None of it makes sense otherwise. And they are liars. She doesn’t have cancer. They used the cancer diagnosis to shame people for wondering where she was at and to keep people quiet about their OBVIOUS fake AI video. They wanted to be able to call everyone lunatics and conspiracy theorist for questioning where a woman was that was “battling cancer” with 3 young children. I don’t believe any of their lies not least any of their obvious fake AI generated and manipulated photographs and videos. Something has happened to Kate and they are covering this up because it has to have something to do with William. Why else would they act like this?? I can’t find any other explanation.
It’s probably a mental health related to a physical illness/problem and they don’t want to admit that Kate is not perfect, that the marriage is not perfect.. the last few years it was obvious that Kate was struggling, no matter how hard they tried to camouflage it… how many times have we noticed during engagements, her incapability to connect, to have a real discussion or a simple chit-chat? And how many times did we comment about her strange behavior? Anyway, we can’t have the heir being a failure to the only thing everyone praises him and the only thing he has over his father, can we?
And how haggard she looks under all of that makeup.
A mental health issue makes a lot of sense as to why they don’t want her doing public engagements.
But it doesn’t explain the lack of photos unless she really is of no capacity.
The haggard woman in the car with Carole was absolutely her imo.
This is a small, less important detail, but the bit about always having tight timelines – I remember a designer said that about working with Kate for a tour too. I guess they are just constantly disorganized and despite having huge lead time for almost all events they do, they still leave it to the last minute.
This stood to me as well. Nothing official the kids attend should be short notice.
Working for people like that is such a nightmare, no wonder so many office people have quit on Kate and why there’s no one who can run their office efficiently. they’re so used to everyone picking up after them that they don’t even bother to plan anything.
The peasants will sort it working all day and night at the last minute.
The plaid pants on Louis in the bottom pic are from Janie and Jack. My mother had bought the same pair for my son for Christmas.
I am going through my second round of Stage 4 stomach cancer. I’m still managing to go to the gym and church, etc. I think Kate is ill, yes, but she is using this as an excuse to do even less than she was doing before. She probably will “retire” from public life, citing health issues. But she could have promoted early screening. What a pathetic waste.
I agree, and will add that I still think William did something to add to Kate’s medical/emotional crisis. Wishing you well in your cancer battle — am going through one of my own right now. Stay strong!
Wishing you both well!
We must all stay strong.I have a rare form of blood cancer which I will be seeing the doctor for in a fortnight to talk about treatment.
Wishing you the best of outcomes Kat!
Thankyou @Jaded
All the best to all of you. 🙏🏾
I wish you the best, Carol. So this nonsense that Kate was “working from her bed” was just that, nonsense. Total BS as usual, like the “top CEO” crap. Are they incapable of telling the truth?
The connection is the nannies. The Telegraph writer is so snooty they couldn’t bring themselves to write that; no, it’s Lady Serena who connected Kate, the best princess to ever princess, to the Spanish brand! It’s the nanny–that first one for George, and now Nanny Maria. And describing the designer/owner of the brand as a ‘friend’ of Kate’s is a bit much. Kate gets her kids’ clothes there—apparently, as per usual, last minute for big occasions. Or rather, Nanny Maria gets Kate’s kids’ clothes there.
I think some serious happened to Kate ; William is the reason and the Firm is covering it up. I also think the BM and the Middletons know and they are part of the conspiracy. It’s probably why the Sussexes are pushed out more and dragged in the press more because the fear they won’t keep quiet about it. No way the Sussexes know. The sad thing Kate served her primary purpose and produced an heir and two spares so the stage is set for William to become a widower. Tin foil tiara off.
Very interesting! Kate is in very bad shape, there hasn’t been any real photos or videos of Kate since Christmas time, and the “cancer announcement” video was A.I. created. Hmm exactly what i’ve been saying for a long time. I’m honestly afraid that Kate is deceased, and i think the claim that she has cancer is the palace’s way of easing the public into announcing her death. Either that or she’s alive but in a very bad state—and i suspect that William did something to cause it.
@K-PEACE, I lean toward incapacity and absolutely agree with you, in that; whether that be the case or she is really deceased what we are seeing from them now is exactly how the royals would behave if William was culpable for her condition. “Privacy” always served William, not Kate. Proof of life is the simplest remedy to stop speculation yet here we are entering month five.
Somethings got to give.
I agree with both of you and Julianna and others thinking along these lines.
Something seismic happened end of Dec which precipitated hasty narratives being put out while they decided what to do.
An interesting comment I saw yesterday said perhaps Charles’s illness was faked/exaggerated too -so that William could become king quickly and have immunity from any possible prosecution if need be.
What I think is a wonder is that their have been no leaks from school, unless of course the media are sitting on them, but in that case why.
The BM is silenced by a mixture of legal injunction, blackmail and intimidation on behalf of William. That is my theory.
That has to be correct. The editors will have been threatened with goodness knows what, and KM’s cancer video made W&K untouchable.
It’s only the foreign press who may break ranks, there’ll be conjecture starting soon.
I think that Louis is trying to send military-style, covert hand signals to us. We are drinking our Ovaltine Louis!
Random thought: perhaps the Wales kids will be bilingual? It would be a huge help to them in their future diplomatic/professional lives.
George can already speak Spanish apparently.
Britain starts teaching foreign languages far too late, 5 year old children in Brittany learn Breton and English.
I’m guessing the clothing designer felt liberated to speak because she knows that even Louis is aging out of the Little Lord Fauntleroy outfits Kate prefers.
As for what’s really going on, the nannies and their friends generally know. I think it’s probably true that what’s happening is pretty terrible. And I think William utterly failed to rise to the occasion — or precipitated the crisis.
Bill was pictured at a soccer match.
I still believe Kate is recuperating from surgery and taking time away from the spotlight. She’s not dead or in a coma. Bill is just lazy and up his own butt.
@ Ohwell – agree! If Kate were comatose or critically ill, the Mids would be spending far more time with the children. Carole & Pippa would be very attentive visitors & we’d see them with the kids.
Kate is a customer and this is a business she frequents. This is NOT her friend. Can you become friends with business owners you use services for? Of course! But this woman is def not her friend!
I lived in Spain from 2007-9 and can attest that Spanish children wore/wear a lot of 1940s-esque fashion- I always get a kick out of it!
Going through hell….
Hmmm.
I guess I’m using Occam’s razor here.
I think Kate does have cancer and it’s very bad.
I feel for her and her children. Hopefully she recovers and is able to retire from public service for health reasons. If William has been awful to her then maybe she can quietly get away from him. We know they won’t let her leave the country as they have her passport. And we know he won’t be allowed to divorce a sick wife
Separate lives in separate castles sounds good
IMO Kate does NOT have cancer. She found out about another affair which was so offensive that she refuses to be in the same county as him.
He has visitation rights to the children only. Chuckles is trying to smooth things over, but even the other ‘ roils ‘are keeping their distance from him.
I don’t know. An affair is obviously possible (probable?) but something is physically wrong with her.
Now, I can absolutely see the palace going DEFCON 1 if she was cheating on her and then it turned out she had cancer.
@Meredith I sense she has an aggressive form of cancer. I had a cousin get breast cancer at 39, and was sadly dead at 42. Another cousin got breast cancer at 47 and was dead by 53, both were very aggressive when they came back the 2nd time. I also know someone I went to high school with who recently died from cervical cancer at 42. Additionally, there is a rise in bowel cancer amongst people in their 30s and 40s and it seems to be quite aggressive as well.
It doesn’t sit right with me that anyone would need assistance ‘styling’ a child, royal or otherwise. Goodness, get real. OK, for formal occasions, but if you don’t know what looks appropriate, what suits your child or what they like to wear, or how to pick it from a (high end) online store, under your name or that of an employee, what is wrong! They are kids. They are no different from other kids, apart from certain engagements. Most of the time they look like they’re wearing Boden type stuff, anyway.
Most of the time lately they’re wearing the exact same clothes! I mean, this is bonkers stuff. Yesterday posters were claiming they always wear the same clothes, today a stylist whose job it is to pick clothes for the kids for things like events and photos is interviewed.
So… why are the kids all on the same clothes in “taken dates ago” birthday photos as the fake photo from months ago?
At this point , I don’t think the breaking news cancer video is K. I gave it the benefit of the doubt but something seems so off. I think She’s either become a vegetable or she’s become mentally ill. I think they’ve locked her away like (as I mentioned a few days ago) as the fictional Bertha Mason character from Jane Eyre.
I’ve known people who’s had cancer and they just don’t disappear from the public. I also know a coworker who still worked. The cancer video also seems she’s physically fine to actually visit her dr for follow ups. I’ve known other real cancer patients that isn’t as well as the video they portrayed her to be, but they’re still able to do something.
They’re trying to make a mockery out of people’s intelligence and think people are stupid. Maybe they can do that in their own country but not the rest of the world.
If she is OK she must be getting bored silly stuck at home all the time should at least be going for drives, a cup of tea and cake in a tea and cake place, sort of thing.
The queen had cancer, even though they didn’t admit it until after her death, and she was in her 90s to boot and she was still seen.
What a way to end her working life, welcoming Liz Truss as PM.
Her sense of humour was such that it would have amused her greatly welcoming Truss as PM. Guaranteed.
I’m done being gaslit by KP, their media flying monkeys, and even a few commenters here. Over and over again people make excuses for weird behavior and claim it’s normal, to shut down discussion.
And over and over again, those talking points are then destroyed and everyone moves on like there’s nothing to see. Let’s face it, KP is at defcon 5 level lies and propaganda.
🎯💯 ITA. It’s so odd that there isn’t a huge outcry in the UK to produce proof of life for Kate. It’s as though the rota rats and a sizable number of the public are overwhelmingly complacent and unbothered by her disappearance.
Yes! It’s so weird, Beverley. I know she’s not Diana, but I honestly thought people cared about her more than this. Seems like they care about the monarchy itself rather than her.
They would call the cancer broadcast proof of life.
Thank you for making that point @withtheamerican. I agree with you 100%. And i will add this… Some have even been downright rude and tried to make people feel stupid or shame them for questioning the lies and fraudulent videos. Calling names, likening it to Meghan hatred and conspiracy theorist to try and shut any comments down that doesnt go along with the cancer video. I refuse to be gaslit by KP, the media and certainly not commenters here. It’s crazy.
Juliana, thanks for chiming in and I’m sorry you too have had this experience. Yeah, the rudeness is next level. Assumptions of motives in an attempt to smear anyone who disagrees, shaming into silence and claims that this is how things have always been done.
Not sure why some commenters care so much about compliance from other posters, like they can’t just let someone else have a different POV, they have to argue each and every time to try to force their view. Or come in hot and heavy with insults to everyone in general before they drop the “I like Meghan, but” canard.
Like, sorry if some here are new to the internet, but I’m not and I’m not playing that game.
@withtheamerican. Yes. Thank you! You said this so much better than I could. I’m not playing that game either!
Concha was very specific when she reported that K had been in a coma. Her latest remarks seem vague whilst also stating the bleeding obvious. Either Concha no longer has access to her “coma” source or K’s condition is so grave that she’s hoping people will join the dots without her needing to be more explicit.
Forever seriously side-eye Amaia.
She used Princess Lilibet to sell (quite a few of) her kid dress when BM (Daily Fail?) mislabeled Lili’s one year birthday photo dress as hers and did NOTHING to correct it. No integrity.
“They,” interesting. I thought Kate was the one who was sick. Maybe it IS a divorce … hmmmm.
Can both things be true? Her health is worse than they’ve said AND she and William are separated? I always believed the move to Adalaide Cottage was the start of their separation because it didn’t make sense that a family of 6 would move to a relatively modest cottage when they have at least 2 very spacious homes.
I have wondered if her cancer is a female cancer – either ovarian or cervical? Ovarian makes the most sense. She was having a ‘planned abdominal surgery’ – possibly to remove ovarian cysts (super common) – and they found cancer? Ovarian cancer usually is not a great outcome because it’s usually found too late.
Of course this is all alleged and speculation and I don’t know that the public is owed a complete rundown on her health and specifics about her cancer. I know people debate this based on the fact that they are tax payer funded and I understand that perspective, but I think people in general should be afforded medical privacy and if they want to be candid they can be. It should be up to them.
I hope she recovers from whatever and lives a long life but I also hope ” they” don’t come back . To public life. A waste of money , waste of space and boring as hell . If they want to imitate the Sussexes.why don’t they step away as they did and do something useful. Now they don’t even earn their keep. If this is what their kids see growing up, I don’t think they will be any different.
I concur on all points. I do hope she recovers completely and I hope they sort of fade from public life. Although that won’t be hard to do as they aren’t seen a whole lot as it is.
The one working royal who is not seen or covered much but who DOES work a good deal is Ann. She is a work horse. Works circles around these fools and you rarely see any coverage of her. I don’t understand. I always believed she’d be an amazing Queen but birth order and all of that nonsense made that impossible. Missed opportunity.