Royalist: If King Charles wants to see his grandkids, why did he evict them?

As we discussed yesterday, the Mirror ran a weird story about King Charles’s newfound commitment to being in Prince Archie and Princess Lili’s lives. A source claimed that Charles “would never be content with just seeing his grandchildren on the odd video call.” Which says, to me, that Charles barely even makes time for videocalls with his grandkids – he reportedly saw Archie and Lili via video call on his birthday last year, and I bet that was the last time. Ingrid C-Word was also tasked with trying to make Charles sound like a doting grandfather, and she said: “He does not want a FaceTime relationship with his son’s children. He wants to know them and be involved with their lives while they are still young enough to be able to learn from his wisdom.” What’s interesting about all of this is… no one seems to be buying any part of it. Charles’s actions for two years have shown that he doesn’t give a f–k about the Sussex family whatsoever. Even the Daily Beast’s Royalist called him out: “The King Says He Wants to See Prince Harry’s Kids. So, Er, Why Kick Them Out?”

Cynics might argue that if the king really wanted to see more of the Sussexes he wouldn’t have stripped them of their U.K. home. Many believe that Charles has made it as difficult as possible for Harry to visit the U.K. to avoid him setting up a rival court.

Prince Harry’s camp have long argued that he has made it more difficult for Harry to visit the U.K. safely with his family by evicting him from his home on the royal estate, Frogmore Cottage, where Harry’s children’s security would have been assured by being within the royal protection envelope. Indeed, Omid Scobie in his book Endgame said none other than Harry made this exact point to his father, responding, when told to pack his bags and clear out of Frogmore, “Don’t you want to see your grandchildren again?”

Scobie called the decision from Charles to evict Harry “a cheap shot from a wounded father bound by an institutional system that is often intolerant of human emotion.”

Frogmore, Scobie says, was regarded by the Sussexes as the “only true safe option when visiting the United Kingdom,” due to the royal estate being guarded round the clock by armed guards.

Charles is understood to have seen Archie only a handful of times and has only met Lilibet, who was born in America, once. Charles reportedly turned down an invitation to Lilibet’s christening in California.

[From The Daily Beast]

It feels notable that there’s any pushback on Charles’s attempts to go back to briefings-as-usual about how he obviously wants to see Harry and Harry’s children (but not Meghan). Tom Sykes is right – the Frogmore eviction was absolutely the turning point, as was Harry’s most recent visit to the UK. When Harry released the statement on May 7th about how there were no plans to meet with Charles during his visit because of “the king’s full program,” it really was a game-changer. Harry isn’t playing Charles’s stupid games anymore and Charles showed his panic about that in the days and weeks that followed.

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  1. Neeve says:

    I truly doubt Charles even sees the Wales kids,he probably spends more time with Camillas grandkids than his own.

    • Royal Donwnfall Watcher says:

      I bet you are right, Neeve. This guy is so broken. All the money in the world and yet no amount of money can buy you a heart.

      • MissMarirose says:

        Yeah, and where was he to learn how to be a good father or grandfather given how cold and distant his parents were to him?

      • TheFarmer'sWife says:

        Some Grand Dad! Evicting his youngest son, daughter-in-law and grandchildren from their secure home. To anyone watching, this was, and still is, an entirely d*ck move by an infantile, grown a** jealous, vengeful, spiteful, racist and kind of dumb man! Are there no good PR people in the UK? At least the British taxpayer is getting a serialized soap opera out of the deal. It’s like watching “The Curse of Oak Island.” They’re never going to find the treasure because there is none, and they’ve totally ruined an island in the process.

      • Deering24 says:

        TheFarmer’sWife–thank you!!! Always thought Curse of Oak Island was a ton ‘o reality show malarkey–though the island history is fascinating.

    • Proud Mary says:

      I agree! Charles treats William and Harry’s children exactly as he treated them when they were themselves children: for PR, to launder his and that villain’s reputation. Camzilla did the diplomatic equivalent of pooping all over herself at D-Day, so Chuckles pulls out the sorry azz grandpa card. No one’s buying it. I only hope that we can all stop feeling sorry for the mofo, because he allegedly has cancer, and got back to treating him like the racist garbage person that he is.

    • He doesn’t want to see his biracial grandchildren. This is just him wanting to look good but we all know what a crap father and grandfather that he is.

    • swaz says:

      1, 2, 3, next article Charles will be out with William’s kids 🤣🤣🤣 what a circus 🙄

  2. Tessa says:

    Charles lacks wisdom. He has nothing to teach the children except how bad a granddad he is.

    • harpervalleypta says:

      The wisdom to be gained from Charles is “Don’t ever life your life the way Chuck did.”

      He’s not a good example, he’s a cautionary tale.

      • Where'sMyTiara says:

        Cluck is the living embodiment (along with his eldest son & brother Andrew) of the phrase: “If you can’t be a good example, be a dire warning”.

    • Rnot says:

      He might have something worthwhile to teach them about gardening or watercolors, but he’ll never spend enough time with them for that to happen.

  3. StillDouchesOfCambridge says:

    Charles is not content with zoom calls anymore because now the sussex children could be “useful allies” while there’s nobody left in his slimmed down monarchy.

    • Lacey says:

      Is that a code word for “scapegoat”? And will Billy goat his own children when they are older? Just like his own father did to Good King Harry?

  4. Dee(2) says:

    If Tom Sykes is making this point you know the kindly grandpa schtick is done. I wonder why they keep doing this though? According to them everyone in the UK hates Harry and Meghan and are sick of them, what is the upside of this play? He clearly doesn’t feel this way and “supposedly” all the polls say people agree with his treatment so why the trial balloon? What’s going on behind the scenes that he thinks he needs to pretend to be posh Santa again?

    • sevenblue says:

      Will was briefing the rota that he is the best statesman and he was doing the King’s work in France. I am guessing, this is Charles’s response to that. He is trying to agonize Will.

      • Dee(2) says:

        I could see that if it was an article about how William is not ready for prime time, but how does I’m a great grandpa hurt William? William doesn’t care if he sees Harry and Meghan’s kids, William doesn’t even seem to care if Charles sees his kids. This family and their psychoses is so bizarre. I don’t understand the motivation for anything they do other than to be horrible to each other some how.

      • sevenblue says:

        @Dee(2), William is obviously obsessed with Harry. Whenever Will briefs about his future rein, Charles briefs about making peace with Harry, which probably pisses off Will because they both decided on H&M being the common enemy. I think, Charles threatens him with changing his position if he doesn’t behave.

    • Wagiman says:

      TS briefs from Willy (I think, mostly). I love watching them tearing each other apart.

      • ShazBot says:

        Maybe this is Will pushing back on “William is the only reason the family can’t get along with Harry”. Reminding everyone Charles has been just as vicious too.

    • rosa mwemaid says:

      I think William doesn’t want his father to see Harry’s children, William wants to be the only Son and his children the only grandchildren, makes him more important.

    • blueberry says:

      Right could it be that it’s something related to another spare getting evicted? Are they just desperate for any story at this point? Or the media pushing back on his nonsense?

  5. Agnes says:

    “Learn from his wisdom,” lolz. He’s made bad choices throughout his exceedingly privileged life. Harry has made good ones, and is smart enough to see his father for what he is: not someone you’d want around small children.

    • SussexWatcher says:

      Not to mention that we heard for YEARS that Chuckles hates small children! That was the reason (we were told) that Camzilla had to keep a separate house – so she could see her young grandchildren because Chuckles hated them being underfoot.

      This story that he misses Archie and Lili and wants to know them better is bullshit. He doesn’t care about them just like he doesn’t care about their mother.

  6. The Hench says:

    Well, well, well. After some of the ludricous water Tom Sykes has carried for the Royal Family, this makes a welcome change.

    • kirk says:

      How do we know he’s not carrying water for Willy? Who has no problem poking Daddio from the side.

  7. Eurydice says:

    This is so interesting. Why would Sykes write this? Why not keep up with the willful blindness? There’s been rapid pushback lately – is Harry’s PR team getting to these people somehow?

    • Brassy Rebel says:

      One reason for Sykes to write this is because it’s so damn obvious. I’m sure there’s competition among the rota 🐀s. This observation makes those faithfully reporting how Charles wants a relationship with his American grandkids look very foolish and gullible.

      • Eurydice says:

        Ok, but it’s been obvious for over a year, during which there’ve been numerous articles about H&M’s security, about Charles wanting to see his grandkids, about Harry not having a place to stay in the UK, about William trying to move Andrew into Frogmore. And, in all that time, nobody once has said “Charles, what do you expect?” My question is “why now?”

      • Harper says:

        It almost feels like Sykes wrote this when he was cranky and tired of being a rota stooge and pressed SEND before he could remember what side his scone was buttered on.

      • Snaggletooth says:

        @Harper totally. Who knows, maybe he’s privately squabbling with Charles’ staff or something. If reporters were to just start stating simple truths about TRF they could make life so hard for them.

    • Jais says:

      What’s also interesting is that for as much as everyone slammed omid scobie they sure do cite him a lot. Omid made the points about frogmore from the get go and now here’s Sykes writing about it.

    • Plain Jane says:

      THIS! I was really surprised by this headline, am not used to Sykes ever calling out (one out of a zillion cases of) the royals’ hypocrisy.

    • So my theory: Willy briefed this to undermine his father. (Sykes gets a lot of briefing from W, I think)

      William and his dad have been in some kind of power struggle since before Christmas, when neither came to the others’ events. Undercutting Charles’ claims about why he doesn’t see Harry’s kids is a direct cut to Charles’ overall credibility as supposed leader of a family.

      Yes, William hates Harry. But Harry can be used as a pawn by both W and C.

      This read to me like a wounded child standing up to their father to point out what a crap father he is, which I can totally see W doing. It also makes Charles look like absolute dog crap in a fundamental way that is hard to come back from. (People will forgive bags of cash, but everyone can relate to dysfunctional family)

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      Eurydice, I’m wondering if this is for the US reader. Whatever the bm are writing, someone with critical thinkings skills is not going to be buying the 1,000 reasons that always come out to make the left behinds look good and Harry and Meghan bad. We’ll see how articles are written in future, but I think there will be more layoffs in the bm–more will be turning the US. I hope we can keep them out. Will Lewis is under the microscope right now.

  8. sevenblue says:

    It is like clockwork. William says to the press, I am big boy now, soon I will be the King. As a response, Charles informs the rota he is gonna be a good father / grandfather to Harry / Harry’s children to make Will angry and jealous. Will is most of the time giving content to Daily Beast. So, it is clear that they are Team Willy especially with this article hitting directly at Charles.

    • Jay says:

      I agree – Charles was always able to play his boys off of each other through the press, and he always puts out something like this when his heir gets too big for his britches.

  9. Tessa says:

    And derangers want harry to leave Meghan and take the children to the UK and beg forgiveness.

  10. Over it says:

    Dog-sh-t chuck through and through.

  11. MY3CENTS says:

    I think Harry is done playing games. He’s simply telling the honest truth and letting that reflect on Chucky.

  12. bisynaptic says:

    Is this counter-programming from William/KP?

  13. Hypocrisy says:

    How many years did Chuck and his propaganda team think that they could cycle through the same stories without being called out? I hope to see more of this…

    • rosa mwemaid says:

      Depends of the level of intelligence of the readers of the gutter press. Some of them seem to swallow an awful lot.

  14. Giddy says:

    Charles is a fool to have let his relationship with Harry flounder, and a double fool to have not treated his grandchildren as the precious gift that they are. All his finery, all his lands and castles, are nothing compared to the love of a child.

    • rosa mwemaid says:

      Very true. Makes me feel sad. How can he use them like this. I used to think well of Charles, but not any longer.

      • Brassy Rebel says:

        Obviously, Charles is still trying to figure out what love is.

      • 809Matriarch says:

        Never thought well if old Chucky. I warmed towards I warmed to him after he walked Megan down the aisle.
        But his and QE2 continued silence in light of all the abuse…

  15. Yup, Me says:

    Sometimes, I think back to Harry saying he was excited that he’d be able to give Meghan the family she never had and it turns out that his family is just as trash as her raggedy father and his scammer daughter, just with a whole lot more money and privilege (and, therefore, power to do harm).

    Meghan’s (white) family is a dumpster fire, Harry’s is a whole landfill inferno.

    • swaz says:

      I was thinking the very same thing, it must have been shocking to Harry to realise that his family is just as awful as the Markles 🙄🙄

      • JT says:

        The Markels may be a lot of things but it unequivocally clear that Harry’s family is a hell of a lot worse. The Markle have no power. They are merely an annoyance that pops up every now and again. Harry’s family could, and nearly did, get them killed. Harry’s family has been running a years long, international spear campaign against Harry, Meg, Archie, and Lili Di. People have been arrested for the violence incited by Harry’s family. Those kids lives are threatened on TV because of Harry’s family. There is no comparison between Meg’s family and the death cult that is Harry’s.

    • kirk says:

      Meghan had a good relationship with paternal grandmother before she passed on. Meghan currently has good relationship with at least one of her half-sister’s daughters.

  16. Amy Bee says:

    Tom Sykes is stating obvious, I’ll give him a cookie for that.

  17. Ali says:

    Tbh I don’t think the mirror was briefed by anyone, I bet that article was written to goad the sussexes to respond. Even a one lined response from their team would give weeks of articles.

    • Iolanthe says:

      Oh yes , hoping that the Sussexes would thaw enough to let them in and release current pictures of their children. I don’t think they are going to fall for this humbug . Much as we would love to see those babies growing up , it’s better that their faces are kept away from prying eyes .Haters would scrutinize every feature to see how black or white they look . If they end up looking more blonde and blue eyed than the Wales cousins, William and Kate would implode with jealousy . No, no , a thousand times no.. let those beautiful children have a normal childhood .

      • Oh come on. says:

        @Iolanthe exactly this. Meghan and Harry will never, ever expose their children to the racist scrutiny and barrage of threats and abuse that the British press put Meghan through. Never, ever, ever.

    • Amy Bee says:

      The Mirror and Russell Myers (the person who wrote the article) are deluded if they think Harry and Meghan were going to respond to this article. Myers couldn’t even get Lili’s age right.

  18. aquarius64 says:

    This is a warning shot to Charles: we of the BM will never get access to the Sussex children and it’s your fault. Any news outlet who may be given access will not be British. The other bad grandpa, Toxic Tom our useful idiot, is useless to us now because no CA court will never allow him to get visitation (and that’s his and the BM’s fault).

    • Amy Bee says:

      I don’t think Harry and Meghan are going to give any outlet (British or American) access to their children.

  19. ML says:

    There is absolutely NO indication that CRex wants a relationship with his American-based grandkids. None. What he does want is the ability to get credit for wanting a relationship instead. He does this with Paedrew when CRex spews that he wants PA out of Royal Lodge, and then nothing changes. Paedrew is still in like Flynn n the royal family. Here it’s KC jammering yet again about not seeing Archie and Lili. He could and can do something about that, but hasn’t. And this latest story from KC, a billionaire, tells us that he sent little Lili a present. Wow, are we impressed.s/ So, William has gotten annoyed by this latest “wanting to get to know the grandkids in America” story and has let his RR write about how ridiculous that is. The question is why KC wants the grandkids story out and why Huevo doesn’t.

    • rosa mwemaid says:

      I suggest that the King wants the story out there to make him look like a decent father and William doesn’t because he is jealous of his brother and doesn’t want his father showing any affection towards Harry.

      • ML says:

        Rosa, That makes a lot of sense. Considering that KC and W were just in Normandie together, it still seems odd that W allowed Tom Sykes to write this now. And TS quoted Omid Scobie, too! However, KC and W have been at cross purposes for a while.

  20. Lindsay says:

    Bottom line, Charles is a horrible man. He always has been and will be until his last breath.
    The only reason he’s sought after and in the press is because of all of the power/wealth that he holds.
    He truly only cares his power/wealth which I recognize is obvious to many.
    Now that his sidekick has become a lump like lush, he doesn’t really have anything to do.
    He’s just an idle waste of a man whom I believe is very sick, with words like ‘terminal’ used to describe his medical status.
    I also believe his daughter in law is very sick, also.
    I’m sure Andy is smugly waiting it all out at the lodge and that The Ferg is thinking up ways to grab some Faberge eggs 🪺

  21. Mel says:

    Play a very stupid game, you win a stupid prize. Yawn, move on Chuckles, everyone is on to you.

    OMG, I wonder if he did try to chat to the kids and is now in his feelings because they were all
    “Who dat?” LOL, he seems like he would be very affronted by that kind of reaction.

  22. Cj says:

    Articles used to drop about being a granddad for H when Charles was being cut off from William’s kids. Maybe something is iffy on that front with them being at the big events with Kate not going? Talk up being dear old granddad to Harry to ensure the 3 British kids are trotted out? (Gives W the chance to throw in his brother’s face these kids see granddad and get the royal welcome – and gives the RR the kid shots they want?)

  23. Mads says:

    I don’t think Charles gives a second thought to Archie and Lilibet and his actions clearly prove that.
    I wouldn’t even be surprised if he hadn’t set up trust funds for them either – as he did for Camilla’s children and, I suspect, her grandchildren too.

    • Lady Digby says:

      @Mads sad to write that I suspect KC has left Harry nothing in his will. He doesn’t give a rat’s ass about anybody outside of himself and his wife.

    • Beverley says:

      ITA, no trust funds or other monies have been put aside for Harry and Meghan’s children. The white grandchildren and step-grandchildren will be provided for. But it’s unlikely Harry or his kids will get a dime. We all know why.

      “A very much not racist family” indeed…

  24. DARK says:

    Off topic but Charles could really benefit from yellow powder instead of the white remnants of the 1700 that they seem to have dug up. I’m sure there is a color correcting tutorial somewhere on youtube.

  25. MsIam says:

    Chuck Windsor needs to keep Archie and Lilibet’s names out of his mouth forever. And any “wisdom” he could supposedly teach them is probably already on a YouTube video. He’s a failed father and lousy king, look who he picked to be his QC. I don’t count Diana since Charles acts like he was forced to marry her.

  26. Jaded says:

    Looks like a few others have made their dislike of Charles public:

    • CatMum says:

      I’m glad to hear the painting is behind a perspex panel! I really like that painting, and would feel terrible for the artist.

  27. Nerd says:

    I think that whenever they are being publicly attacked on a global scale for their huge missteps, they use Harry and Meghan to protect themselves, but Harry and Meghan just finished a hugely successful 10 year Invictus Games anniversary event and a massively successful tour in Nigeria. They have nothing that has stuck to attack them with and whenever that happens they go even lower by being blatantly racist or mentioning Archie and Lilibet. They already tried the blatant racism which didn’t work so now they are mentioning the Sussex kids. Camilla, Charles and William all failed in trying to look diplomatic in France and the whole world is talking about it. Talks about where is Kate are picking up and she is the new Where is Waldo with the striped sweater and all. This is the best they could come up with to distract. Charles has shown that not only does he not care about them he also doesn’t care about their safety. He took away their security and home. He’s a POS.

  28. Square2 says:

    The cynical side of me thought that Charles wants to see A&L in person and held them hostage. The logical side of me knew he can’t and won’t do that because A&L are Americans. But that is not to say the derangers, RR and some people in The Firm would mind if something unfortunately happens to Meghan & her children. I believe them could be that evil.

  29. TN Democrat says:

    Lort. The Windsors are next level DYSFUNCTIONAL. I almost (almost) cringe at the stories Charles and Camilla are going to plant in retaliation for this Will-not-planted messy truth nugget.

  30. Gabby says:

    MY EYES! Please, I beg of thee, no more pictures in which Charles’ hideous tongue is even slightly visible.

  31. J McGraw says:

    He wants to be involved with their lives “while they are still young enough to be able to learn from his wisdom.”

    The temerity, gall and NARCISSISM of this quote

  32. blunt talker says:

    Meghan and Harry are providing a good natured environment for their children-the UK media and the royal family interest would be a nightmare for those kids-Meghan and Harry will not allow anyone to stress and harm their kids mentally or physically-Everytime I see an article like this I think of Princess Diana and all the mistreatment of her by the media and some royal family members-since Camilla rules the roost there will be no peace between all the royals and the media -she will continue to backstab and lie to keep things in her favor-God keep the Sussexes in your hands safely and with love.