Carole & Michael Middleton stepped out for Day 2 of Royal Ascot

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Well well well! Carole and Michael Middleton made an appearance today at Day 2 of Royal Ascot. This is only their second “public outing” since King Charles’s coronation last year, and since their business, Party Pieces, collapsed into total insolvency. Their only other public outing since all of that mess came last December, at Kate’s dumbass Christmas carol event. Now, there have been “sightings” of Carole this year – she was driving Kate (or someone) in an SUV in Windsor back in March (the silly season of fake Kate sightings). Carole was also reportedly at a Norfolk pub with Prince William in April.

Last week, we heard that Carole and Michael are literally too broke to pay the insolvency firm which handled the fire sale of Party Pieces for £180,000 (and the new owner did not take on any of Party Pieces’ £3 million debt). The fact that Carole and Michael are now out and about at Royal Ascot is fascinating for no other reason than “how the hell can they afford to keep up these appearances?” How can Carole’s broke ass afford this £350 Self-Portrait dress? I’m sure their creditors would love to know. Speaking of, it’s remarkable to read the British media’s coverage of the Middletons’ appearance at Ascot. Nary a mention of how they f–ked over banks, the government and small businesses with their fraud. It’s all “oh, how lovely, the Middletons are out for Ascot!”

Keep your eye on all of this. I’ve long believed that the Windsors were happy to throw the Middletons to the wolves all of last year and it was clear that the Midds were declared persona non grata for a while. If the Middletons are being welcomed back with open arms by the media and the Windsors, something went down behind-the-scenes.

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  1. PinkOrchid says:

    Someone has been stress eating. No shame. At least they are alive. What a sh*t show.

    • Miss Scarlett says:

      Honestly probably stress drinking…

      I know Carole is in her 60s, but past photos of her have always been really good – her skin has always looked well taken care of.

      Here, she looks every bit of her age, plus some. No shame, but I’m just trying to understand the discrepancy. Has she just always been that heavily photoshopped before, or has she aged that much in the last year?

      • Seraphina says:

        Or that the press won’t photoshop her pics anymore.

      • Lemons says:

        1. Stressful situations can age you (at any age)…and w/e has been happening behind the scenes, I think there have been many weeks of stress.

        2. If their public finances are any indication, Carole cannot afford “the best” anymore. What I mean is, skin treatments are ongoing and expensive. I don’t think she can afford the same upkeep as before and if Kate has been in hiding, I don’t think they could go for mother & daughter spa treatments.

        I’m just astonished that the royals would be OK with them attending Ascot, but they won’t pay for their debts.

      • Megan says:

        @Lemons the royals have no control over who buys tickets to Ascot.

        The Midds are survivors. Never count them out.

      • Jaded says:

        She also looked rough at Kate’s Kristmas Koncert. Her face looked haggard and her eyes were swollen, much like these Ascot photos. I think the combination of PP going bust, the bad press they got for stiffing so many people, and whatever went down between Kate and William to cause her to vanish for 6 months has really caught up with CarolE.

      • Agreatreckoning says:

        Stress eating/stress drinking doesn’t matter.imo How is an appearance by someone that’s filed for bankruptcy/not paying people and then attending an event where gambling is involved, is okay? smh

        If Ma Midds hit the trifecta in race 2 yesterday she might pay some people back. Probably not.

    • atorontogal says:

      “Stress drinking” “stress eating” “in her 60s” no, no shame here.

    • Bravo says:

      The covid business loan… Pretty sure they owe british tax payers money as well.

    • Lily says:

      Carole is 69. She may be suffering from age related weight gain. Her husband is more portly too.

  2. Amy Bee says:

    I was also surprised by the Middletons appearance today. Maybe there representing Kate. William is also going to be there today. Look out for stories about the unity between him and Camilla because they’re going to be in the first carriage in the Royal procession.

    • Pinkosaurus says:

      @Amy Bee, me too! I didn’t expect to see Carole appear at Ascot or Wimbledon without Kate. Wonder when the critical articles will start again?

    • Denise says:

      I bet you this was part of negotiations for Kate’s appearance at the Trooping. They leveraged her resence there with being allowed on events like this, go show they are still well connected and important

      • Amy Bee says:

        @Denise: You could be right about that.

      • Neeve says:

        @Denise yeah clearly negotiations are over and so is Kate’s strike and obviously she made sure her folks are no longer ostracized as part of the deal.

      • Becks1 says:

        @Denise that makes a lot of sense. BO wanted Kate at trooping, the trade off is that her parents are back at events like Ascot and Wimbledon and get invited to balmoral (maybe).

      • BlueNailsBetty says:

        @Becks1 Who is BO?

      • Seraphina says:

        My thoughts exactly. This was part of the negotiations.

      • Becks1 says:

        @BlueNailsBetty Obama.

        Clearly just kidding I meant BP. I’m on my phone so apologies for the typo.

      • BlueNailsBetty says:

        @Becks1 Haha, I can imagine the Obamas sending a get well basket and card to Kate.

      • SarahCS says:

        Yeah, ‘so THAT was part of the negotiations’ came out of my mouth as soon as I saw this headline.

      • LolaBurns says:


    • Tessa says:

      He will look more relaxed without Kate there and laughing with camilla.

    • Proud Mary says:

      I think the full settlement regarding her folks: “my folks get to make an appearance as royal ascot without the invisible contract media reminding the world that they are a couple of deadbeats; and without William trolling them by posting signs on trees in Buckleberry.”

      • Agnes says:

        Yes, William and CarolE shared a touching hand-holding moment as Prince Charming rescued her from a stuck high heel in the turf. The Daily Mail really leaned into it. So we’ll never know what happened. Kate looks like she really hates his guts to me. I don’t like either of them, but hope she wins, that would be hilarious.

    • Olivia says:

      There’s photos of William holding Carole’s hand!

      Now we know SOME of what Kate got in exchange for coming out of hiding. I wonder what else she got?

  3. Becks1 says:

    They really have no shame. And the middletons really are getting all their ducks in a row for Wimbledon aren’t they?

    • Seraphina says:

      I am no tennis fanatic – I took lessons from a college friend who played at university level and I have great admiration for them as athletes – but can someone explain why Wimbledon is so important that they must go???? Is it as simple as love for the game?

      • Tessa says:

        Princess marina duchess of Kent presented the trophies for years. Her daughter in law Catherine duchess of Kent took over the role after marina passed away then Catherine’s husband the duke of Kent. Kate coveted being able to present the trophies and eventually got it. Kate enjoys playing to The cameras The late queens father played tennis.

      • Becks1 says:

        @seraphina i think it’s a combination of love of the game, access to the royal box and being the focus of so many cameras. And then getting to call it work.

      • Chrissy says:

        It’s a status symbol to be seen in the Royal Box. The Midds are all about being seen as Royal adjacent, even going so far as to sacrifice their daughter well-being to be seen there.

      • Liz says:

        Seraphina – Wimbledon has become full of celebs these days. Quite the place to be seen. Many A listers attend.

      • Roan Inish says:

        Being at Wimbledon is pretty special. My SIL is a member of the Old England Club. We’ve been there for dining and other club events but not during the Grand Slam tournament. They keep asking us to come to attend a match but it’s so hot in July and i couldn’t tolerate sitting in the sun. It’s an iconic place if you grew up competing in tennis in England like my SIL.

      • Lily says:

        The Middleton followed tennis while their daughters were children.

      • Nic919 says:

        Kate would only attend the men’s matches until Meghan showed up to watch Serena. Now Kate shows up to finals for both men and women but never the doubles titles.

        The Duke of Kent and Duchess of Kent actually showed up for all the championship matches and not just the ones with hot guys.

      • Proud Mary says:

        It’s because Kate is a giant narcissist who goes there to make it about herself — preening and peacocking everywhere. I’m no fan of the entire family, but at least the previous royals stayed in the background and let the spotlight shine on the athletes. Kate has made it all so declassee. Who can forget that embarrassing display she put on a year ago, openly flirting with Roger Federer in front of his wife. Expect a standing ovation from the crowd when she returns from her “cancer” hiatus. Expect it, even if KP has to plant cheerers in the crowd for that to happen, it will.

  4. Negotiations must be going great!!

    • Amyb says:


    • Cali says:

      For Carole…

    • Seraphina says:

      But it took half the year to get to this point……..

    • Flower says:

      Gonna guess that Michael is going to be made a Baron at the very least – but more likely an Earl. As much as Bill may want out – he also likely recognises that he has to elevate his in-laws for respectability politics. That was something Chuck got hugely wrong and it has harmed his image to this very day.

      An Earldom would also make sense as it would put Kate and her family above most Aristos in the pecking order. I think that is what the Midds want more than anything and it’s an easy concession for the Royals if it keeps that scheming grifting family happy. All the Midds have ever wanted to do is to be able to lawd it over the Toffs that laughed about them behind their backs with the ‘doors to manual’ and ‘wisteria’ jokes.

      Now they just need to iron out Kates titles, residences (yes plural) and when she is allowed to appear in public and with whom. I think the palace want to make this separation appear as amicable as possible on the surface after what happened to Diana and even Meghan.

      If they get this wrong the world is watching and will not be so forgiving this time. This is why I have always said that Carole does have bargaining chips and ironically those chips are down to the way Meghan has been treated in full glare of the world’s media.

      • Cali says:

        I think it’s too late for a character restoration of the Middletons.
        And their getting any kind of title would just devalue the title in the eyes of the aristocratic world.
        Carole is a scheming grifter and it’s become more and more obvious over time. Maybe if George ever becomes King he can prop up the grandparents but that’s a tenuous and far off outcome.

      • Christine says:

        I agree, Cali. George could potentially give them a title, as his beloved grandparents, which you know is what they will call them. I think they’ve burned too many bridges for Chuck or William to do it.

      • Tessa says:

        If michael is named a baron Carole will want to be baroness so no divorce

      • Tessa says:

        Carole can’t touch Meghan just because of the spin and negativity which does not reflect all opinions. It makes Carole look petty if she goes there.

      • WithTheAmerican says:

        Charles is so manipulative and spiteful, I just don’t see him giving irrevocable power to people he knows will use whatever they have against the monarchy.

        Plus, would Camilla let the Middletons be above her kids in title? No way.

      • Megan says:

        The Midds are nearly the same age as Charles and Camilla. They will be long dead if/when George takes the throne.

      • Nic919 says:

        The Middletons screwed the British taxpayers out of money and continue to live beyond their means. There is no public need to give this family a title of any sort.
        They are hated by the aristos and so no need to please them, and the common folk are pissed that the Middleton family used the rich person way to avoid accountability. Charles won’t ever give them a title and William doesn’t need to give his in laws a title.

        Carole is better off bargaining for money for her silence. But I suspect it will be a one time payment.

      • Wagiman says:

        George? How long do you expect the muddeltons to live? How will they outlive Peggy?

    • Agreatreckoning says:

      All is well in the houses of hell! /s

  5. Brassy Rebel says:

    These people should be in jail not Ascot. That’s all I’ve got.

  6. Lau says:

    Maybe they’ve asked Andrew where the bodies are buried so they could have something to hold over the Windsors’ heads as well.

    • I believe they already have something on the Windsors to hold over their heads and the pedo isn’t talking.

      • CatMum says:

        Well, there’s the scar…

      • Agnes says:

        There’s The Scar, the secret backer of the Bucklebury Cannabis Barn, 1,001 deets Bill doesn’t want publicized. He let CarolE nestle his big bald head in her lap, and you just can’t come back from that without paying up. Let’s hope the Middletons have good insurance.

      • LisaDawn says:

        Tell me more about the scar!

      • Jaded says:

        @LisaDawn — unretouched photos show a wide-ish scar that starts above her left eyebrow and slants down. It wasn’t there before she disappeared.

  7. Mel says:

    Doesn’t she look tired?! But seriously, pay your bills, you disgusting leeching thief. They belong in prison. She’s not aging well, so the derangers would do well to bear in mind that this is how Kkkate will look in a few years. Worse, possibly as she’s too thin. CarolE looks like a washed up retired pub landlady, very rough indeed.

    • Unblinkered says:

      And one who’s on the run from her creditors.
      What was Carol thinking appearing there, and her husband too? Can’t they see the shame they bring?

  8. Roo says:

    So can we now safely assume the divorce negotiations are almost done and monies have been allocated to Khate and her family?

    • Jaded says:

      Looks that way doesn’t it…Kate magically reappears, Ma and Pa Midd show up at Ascot, now the divorce can slowly, carefully get rolled out.

      • SURE says:

        The Middletons being at Ascot and interacting with the Windsors is signalling (to me, anyway) that there won’t be a divorce between WanK.

  9. Jaded says:

    These grifters really have no shame showing up for this as if nothing untoward in their business had happened. I’m surprised Uncle Hookers-n-Blow didn’t show up with them. Maybe it’s a reward for staying schtum on what William did.

    • SURE says:

      Shameless Middleton grifters mingling with shameless Windsor grifters seems very apt.

  10. Eurydice says:

    I think if William had plans for divorce, they’ve been put on the back burner. I wonder if Charles put his foot down.

    • Tessa says:

      Maybe a temporary truce but if William eventually wants out Charles can’t stop him.

      • Em says:

        Do you know the amount of bad PR he’s gonna get if he divorces “higher mortal” cancer survivor Kate? William is to scared of public opinion to do anything like this

      • Nic919 says:

        All he needs to do is say it was a facelift and not cancer and that’s blown up. It’s already suspected in any case.

        This is a win for her right now, but he barely tolerated her and that not going to get better.

      • Christine says:

        I agree, Nic. If he wants a divorce, he will leak the face lift.

    • EasternViolet says:

      I think Kate won this round of the game. I assume William is going to make all photos of he and Kate as a couple look extremely uncomfortable, while saving face, until daddy approves the Divorce. He may even wait until daddy is dead.

      • Eurydice says:

        Yes. William can’t make himself look interesting no matter how hard he tries to be a global sexy aviator dad statesman usher diplomat. Without Kate he just fades into the background. But I don’t think Kate could have won this round without help from Charles.

    • ML says:

      They’re most likely already separated and have been living apart for years, no? Which of them benefits from divorce and why now? It would have to be because of another person in W’s case, right? In hers, I’m leaning toward safety at the moment.

      In my opinion, CarolE and Mike haven’t been cast aside due to grifting or bankruptcy—they handled that just as legally as many other rich and powerful people do. Seeing them together here, is interesting because I don’t think regular people approve. For what it’s worth, their name badges are yellow (Gabriella’s is purple and Eugenie’s is blue).

      And yes, for whatever reason, CarolE looks as though she has gone through h3LL and it’s aged her.

      • Eurydice says:

        I agree with you that there doesn’t seem to be any advantage to divorce. If Kate’s ok with the arrangement and William gets to philander a bit on the side, then why rock the boat? I do think there was a time “pre-cancer” when William was straining at the leash – that he got to thinking he was better than Charles and could do better without Kate. But that all came crashing down when he proved to be an utter failure at stepping up during a crisis.

      • Tara says:

        Interesting observation regarding the color of the name tags!
        I agree with everyone – the negotiations were done while Kate was on strike/healing, and it was tough. And everyone probably showed their true faces to each other – so Carole and Michael are going to Ascot knowing this is just part of a deal. No acceptance. And yes, I’m shocked, she really is trading her daughter for fame.

      • LeonsMomma says:

        So did a little name-tag sleuthing, and not easy to find — and think it may change day by day.
        Oval tags allegedly means access to Royal enclosure, so they are allowed in there.
        “Name tags worn for special events, like the Royal Ascot, can feature color combinations such as purple and white for royalty, or red, blue and white for Britain.”
        The king and queen don’t wear them.

        So yellow is for cheap seats, perhaps?

      • Digital Unicorn says:

        I personally think they past 6 months have been divorce negotiations (with time away for some proper work) – I don’t want to really say she didn’t have cancer but given how fresh as a daisy she looked I think they over egged that pudding esp when standing next to Charles who looked rough. Whatever it was it doesn’t pass the smell test. And if Chuck is as sick as he looks – she’s close to achieving the goal, Queen.

        If William wants to get rid of her he needs to do it sooner than later as once he’s King and she’s QC it will be more difficult. His recent PR has been trying to set him up as some sort of sexy single dad/future King. He’s clearly has been envisioning himself as a single Monarch.

      • Interested Gawker says:

        “He’s clearly has been envisioning himself as a single Monarch.”

        Maybe that Father’s Day photo was William watching his Hot Single Reign dreams dissolve at the Norfolk horizon.

      • Nic919 says:

        There are photos of Carole and Mike in the royal box with William today. They really did negotiate a lot.

      • Innie says:

        Carole and Mike have single day badges, so they were only good for Wednesday. The dark blue badge is a 5 day badge, so you can come in all five days.

    • Flower says:

      Gonna guess that Bill thought that Duchy money would be the key to his liberation, but My Fair lady told him she’s not that cheap so now he’s having to save up a little bit more.

      LMAO at Carole rubbing his face in it even if she is a shameless grifter.

  11. Cheshire Sass says:

    Social climber Carole looks a wee bit stressed out in the face, she looks like she’s aged 10 years.

  12. Inge says:

    The effing nerve

    No shame at all

    And did they push Kate onto the balcony so they could make an appearace here?

    Those poor creditors

    • PC says:

      The Middletons are a bunch of deadbeat grifters with no shame for the pain they have caused. So what if they left a path of destruction his their wake. They still think their daughter is the cat’s meow, and their path to higher mortals society. Their faces look like the cat who got the cream. All those people deserve each other.

  13. Piper says:

    I don’t think they are getting divorced. I think the negotiation is that they stay married and Kate and the Middletons got a settlement. He did something or Carol played hardball and out maneouverd him. Anyway, well done Carol and company – Carol was not going to let Kate be treated like Diana.

    • Tessa says:

      Ironically Carole enabled Kate and encouraged her to pursue William. Diana wanted out. Kate wants to be queen.

    • WithTheAmerican says:

      Kate has never wanted freedom, she has only ever wanted to be the highest woman to a patriarch. So she’s nothing like Diana.

      And there’s no way the Middleton out manipulated the Windsors. They won a battle, not the war.

    • Nic919 says:

      Camilla is around so the Middletons will ever win the war. And William has been friendly to Camilla for a while. He will use her services.

  14. Tarte Au Citron says:

    I could have sworn Kate has a dress like that already. Ice-blue, pussybow neckline, covered-up…same kind of style. Hmmm.

  15. Hypocrisy says:

    Wonder if those debts were discreetly paid off 🤔🤨.

    • First comment says:

      Unfortunately, there is no reason legally to do it…morally, yes but I don’t think they are decent enough…

    • sevenblue says:

      If they were, we would know. Why wouldn’t they want to clear their names if they actually paid their debts?

      • Aurora says:

        I think it would be as awkward to come up with an explanation that could pique general curiosity and become subject for media research. Most likely they hope ppl just asume the debt was paid in stock or property. But if Kate’s sickness is correlated to some ‘domestic accident’ and negotiations were in place while her parents didn’t leave her bedside, it’s almost a sure thing that getting the Middletons debt-free was one of the demands.

      • sevenblue says:

        @Aurora, doubt it. I think, the deal they would make is to make royal reporters not to report about the unpaid debt anymore. If they don’t report it, no one would know. It isn’t like the debtors are calling them out on social media. If they paid their debts, the PR articles would be easy to write: how good people they are to pay to the debtors even though legally they didn’t have to, how they have always found a way to pay their debts, etc.

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      Nope – I think whatever money they’ve scammed from Peggy as part of these negotiations its gone into the offshore bank accounts (we know they have them).

      Grifters gonna grift – their next grift will be what using the children to get titles and/or roles for the siblings children in George’s court.

  16. Mslove says:

    I wonder if the Middletons will be given an earldom? If not, I suppose Keen could make Carole & Pippa ladies in waiting. Anyway I was surprised to see them and shame on them for stiffing their vendors.

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      It’s been a while since we’ve seen any Mids for Titles PR campaigning – am not convinced they will get one, no matter how hard Carole pushes for one. Being allowed to attend Ascot (and not being in a carriage) is not really indicative that they are back in the fold – more like Kate got them tickets (just like she got extra tickets for her siblings for the coronation).

      Its not a good look for them to mug it at Ascot considering the story just last week about them not paying the insolvency firm and reminding everyone just how much money they owed to their employees, creditors and HMRC.

      And yeah we are going to be seeing the Middleton Mob at Wimbledon.

  17. First comment says:

    Carole’s smile is different…did she get new veneers as well?

    • Flower says:

      Lol 2 for 1 deal.

      Didn’t Kate use to do something similar with dresses and buy her mother exactly the same dress.

  18. Digital Unicorn says:

    Hmm, interesting but not surprising. They’ve kept their gobs shut for the past 6 months and this is the reward, for now. We’ll see the lot of them at Wimbledon and then nothing for months again.

    I wonder if Kate paid for Ma dress – lets not forget that Ma and Pips have previous for wearing Kate’s clothes (and getting freebies using the royal connections – lets not forget the press release KP made about Pippa’s wedding).

    • Nic919 says:

      I expected them at Wimbledon now that kate has resurfaced, but not here.

      It’s clear there were negotiations of some sort because they have not been seen at all since Christmas and Carole can be seen when she wants to.

  19. Libra says:

    So those reports of Mike and Carole being separated and Mike living alone are false? Saw it / read it in multiple places.

    • Nic919 says:

      Carole is like her daughter in that a public image doesn’t need to match the private reality. Mike does show up to major events, but they seem to have a Philip / Penny / Liz situation more than anything.

  20. Flower says:

    These people have no fcuking shame.

    Imagine having wrecked that many peoples lives with your debts and rocking up to Ascot and Wimbo like nothing happened.

    EDIT: looks like Carole is having to shop off the peg or accept freebies. That dress is horrific.

    • Blujfly says:

      Kate, Pippa, and Carole have spent the past 20 years trading freebies and heavily discounted clothing and making deals with brands to receive clothes that can be passed onto Kate and back and forth.

  21. aquarius64 says:

    Apparently negotiations are going well and part of the deal is the Middletons are not seen as social pariahs. But Carole and company are not out of the woods. No way the Windsors like having the descendants of coal miners stepping on their necks. The Firm is biding its time. William wants out and the cleanest way he can leave his marriage is as a widower.

  22. Dee says:

    Ha ha. I remember years ago, the Queens concern that Kate wasn’t working out of college. And the article I read saying, “Kate is working for her parents’ billion dollar business, Party Pieces” That was a house of cards!!

    • Tessa says:

      Kate first got very part time work at jigsaw that lasted less than a year then she was starting up a baby clothes line where she did nothing about. Then it was said she helped out at party pieces.

  23. DonnaT says:

    There’s a difference between business insolvency and personal insolvency. . .

    • SURE says:

      The Middletons changed the ownership structure of PP so that they wouldn’t become personally insolvent.

    • Nic919 says:

      The structure was changed in 2019, pre Covid, because after decades of running party pieces, they saw the writing on the wall.

      Also many of the vendors specifically stated in how Carole traded on their word and family name to get services and products, knowing that the business was on its last legs.

  24. Sid says:

    Low rent scammers, thy name is Middleton.

  25. Pinniped and Poodle says:

    Can they please stop with these floral crimes against humanity?

  26. DaniM says:

    That dress and hat doesn’t suit Carole Middleton at all.

  27. Interested Gawker says:

    I would LOVE to know what Camilla is saying about all this, she looked so annoyed the other day.

    All this drama for backroom wrangling… All this drama and the five wheeled car won the day, I guess?

    Never forget ALL of this was kicked off by ‘Rural rivals’, trying to bury Meghan in the press in trade for not talking about William, trying to pry H&M apart and get Harry back ‘under control’, forcing H&M out because H wouldn’t take William’s aide out of the lawsuit. Cam had Rose conspicuously visible with her recently and now she’s visibly angry on the balcony. Cam wanted to slither out of culpability and leave Kate vilified with all the ‘royal racist’ blowback absorbed by her and William seemed desperate to get rid of her now that two years at Adelaide were coming near. Has that been thwarted? Cam never looked happier going back and forth to the London Clinic, doing her own solo engagements with zeal for a hot minute as Kate was out of commission. Cam wants her way and her power only lasts so long as CIII is on the throne. He looks very sick. A wounded Camilla with her back against an accelerated timeline is a dangerous concept. Whatever she has wanted has been background radiation in all of William’s drama. I think all of this, amazingly, is only the first act.

  28. Lady Esther says:

    I really, really wish Carole and Kate would stop dressing so twee, it suits neither of them in personality nor in body shape. They look great in monochrome tailored A-line looks.

    However I wonder how this will actually work? Who will they talk to? Randoms, if Kate isn’t there? Will they actually be in the Royal enclosure? We haven’t seen William interacting with them publicly in a long time (non-sourced stories of them hanging out in Norfolk notwithstanding) and he’s not going to stand there talking to them the entire time…I don’t think the rest of the RF has any time for them. And if they’re not in the Royal enclosure then what is the point?

    And what do they have to offer as conversation? “Well, we USED to own part of a racehorse but then (snort laugh) bankruptcy, how tedious! We USED to holiday in Mustique but now can only afford to send Pippa to her father-in-law’s resort and James somewhere in a coach class flight. So what do you think of this series of Bridgerton?” I don’t get it…

  29. Lala11_7 says:

    I’ma be HONEST….

    It looks like Kate has…FINALLY impressed the vengeful Scorpio ♏️ BITCH 😡 in me❣️ Let’s SEE if she CAN MAINTAIN THIS level of psychological mayhem…

    Cause…I would be getting me & the kids’ passports together to vist the West Coast 🇺🇸 🙃

    • Kyle O says:

      Why would Kate be getting passports together to visit the west coast? Kate has never been friends with Harry and Meg and she actively try to hurt Meg. It’s ludicrous for anyone to think the Sussexes have any special concern for Kate.

      • Interested Gawker says:

        Comments like this is why the campaign to tar the Sussex Squad as responsible for ‘conspiracy theories’ about Kate and bullying online, the Squad as a dangerous threat -DARVOing the BRF hate campaign against H&M won’t be successful. Too many people who do not follow anything about the BRF entered the story at William’s Kategate and the Mothering Sunday photo with Spare and the Netflix doc already established in the public mind. Many people are willing to believe ‘H&M would help K’, ‘K’s probably in California’, ‘C&L are chilling with A&L’. It’s only now some people are taking a look at what they thought was ‘H & M whining’ and seeing it in a different light. Many of the unpleasant scoldings and aggressive online activity new people were introduced to were KP/Murdoch bots. That turned a lot of people off and they were WanK and BRF fans. They see H&M being dragged back into the narrative all the time as weird, particularly Nacho’s IG post getting coverage as unnecessary and weird. This ‘Where’s Kate’ made people more inclined to believe the Sussexes would have sympathy with Kate ‘being treated the same way’.

    • ML says:

      Lala11-7, I like reading what you write when you post here, and I hope your health is at least stable and you’ve got stuff under control.
      I pity K at the moment, since I think she went through something nasty. However, she was nasty to H&M and their babies! I don’t want her anywhere near the West Coast, unless there’s clear boundaries and expectation management. I don’t think she’s a genuinely good person and I’d prefer her far away from Meghan and the kids.

  30. tamsin says:

    Carol’s ensemble is Kate to a T. Is she embodying her daughter at Ascot? Is this a preview of Kate in twenty years? Does Carol look like she has had some botox? Something has made her face a bit lumpy, at least to my eyes.

  31. Jais says:

    Since the beginning, it felt like William wanted us to think that Kate is doing well and that she’s out and about. At least that’s what he told Becky English. Meanwhile online rumors had Kate seriously ill and possibly in Houston for treatments to survive. And now Kate has been seen out and about and looking pretty good, and even her parents are out, appearing to support their son in law. Which is what William wanted. To show that she’s doing well even while others were certain she was seriously ill. So I guess I’m confused by who got what. Not sure if I’m making sense.

    • ML says:

      Good point, Jais. W does seem to have gotten exactly what he wanted.

    • Feeshalori says:

      I agree, this works to William’s advantage with Kate’s reappearance in seemingly good health and her parents being out and about. So it sounds like he can go forward with pulling the plug on their marriage with his healthy wife according to his strategy. And if she did indeed get a facelift and it wasn’t reconstructive surgery or cancer, he’s got that ace up his sleeve as well if he wants to leak that tidbit to the public.

    • Feeshalori says:

      But of course, tomorrow may bring another change in my thinking because of this continuing saga and the questions it raises more than answers now. That scar and all its ramifications open the door to a lot of speculation.

  32. Avonan says:

    Royal Ascot, Day 2: Post Kate Trooping appearance, it seems that all the cousins have the go-ahead to interact with William…and the Middletons!?! Case in point, the York sisters (with spouses) and the Tindalls. Sophie and Edward, too. Even William and Carole look amicable together. Who’s missing in the love fest? Those not worried about their gravy train Camzilla, Charles, Anne. Kate wasn’t there, but she won the day.

    • Interested Gawker says:

      Some of the photos are so touchy-feely. The Tindals are draping themselves about William and that Kingston widow in an ostentatious manner. I can’t recall the royals hanging all over each other like that before. William assisted Carole by the hand in a way I don’t think he’s ever done for Kate. What is going on?

      • Tessa says:

        The dm has a William and Carole bonding moment in photographs with huevo grinning at Carole. This of course looked staged photo showing how will adores his mother in law. Something going on behind the scenes

      • Tessa says:

        Very staged photos probably pre planned with full cooperation with the media. Playing happy families

    • Blair Warner says:

      Yes – that whole series of photos with Zara, Beatrice, Eugenie, Fergie, Sophie, William and the Middletons is mind-boggling. They have never been so publicly friendly before! The Daily Mail (I know) calls it an “affectionate display”.

      Those pictures are worth looking for, if they aren’t covered here tomorrow. What on earth has happened?? It’s a drastic change and I’m baffled; I thought the Midds would be cast out permanently.

    • Sharon says:

      Anne will most likely be at Ascot she’s the biggest horse lover in the family along with Zara .

  33. TheCrankyFairy says:

    Carole looks like she’s recovering from a black eye.

    • Interested Gawker says:

      Right? Under one of her eyes is very visibly swollen at least, if not a black eye.

      The first rule of Windsor Fight Club is nobody talks about Windsor Fight Club.

  34. ohwell says:

    There was never a divorce being negotiated and there will never be a divorce. I do not see why Will or Kate would want to divorce. They can just live separate lives and show up for events and photos.

    • Tessa says:

      Kate is hanging on to the marriage. Will may not want to. But. Huevo has the happy family photo with Carole. That may not last

    • Libra says:

      @ohwell; I agree with you. I never was on the divorce bandwagon. William has it all; the duchy millions, a wife who looks the other way and keeps her mouth shut, healthy children with a full time Mom and unlimited freedom to do whatever he darn well pleases.

    • Nic919 says:

      If William didn’t want out he would have acted like his grandfather. Publicly respect his wife and have the side pieces in private. William stopped pretending he likes his wives several years ago. He will get out eventually. Kate thinks she’s won but the Windsors always win. And Camilla.

      The facelift story is still out there and very credible. Add the frankenphoto that she took credit for and we have a history of kate being so vain she’s ready to deceive.

      • maggie says:

        I was quite pleased seeing Carole’s photo as I’m nearly the same age as her and for once didn’t feel envious looking at her haha. And agree the style of dress and hat do nothing for her.
        I am perplexed as to why she’d want to go to an event like that and mix with a crowd of people who clearly believe she’s their social inferior. I know she’s a social climber but even so it must have been awkward. Chatting to Eugenie about god knows what drivel. I’d rather read a bloody book in the sun.

  35. Tessa says:

    William is a weak man. Kate may look the other way but it does not make the marriage less dysfunctional. Kate has lots of help also. Most women need to support the household and can’t have the luxury of being s full time mom. Besides which Kate can work while the children are in school. Nobody on this planet really can do whatever they please. There are consequences . And calls for a republic

  36. Truthsyrup says:

    Wow, cannot believe they appeared.
    1. Thought Carole & Mike were separated? Maybe they put on a public display.
    2. Thinking the black eye is filler bruising?

    • Liz says:

      They always go to events like Wimbledon together. It’s a public display – in private they’re separated.