The Duke and Duchess of Sussex executive produced the Netflix docuseries Polo, which began streaming last week. Netflix did not spend any time or money on promotion for Polo. Neither did Harry and Meghan’s production company Archewell. Harry and Meghan also gave zero interviews or public statements in support of Polo, almost like they were making a point of not promoting it at all. Compare that with Meghan offering statements to the New York Times and InStyle on behalf of her investments in Cesta Collective and Highbrow Hippie, their silence and lack of promotion continues to make zero sense to me, but I understand I’m alone here. Obviously, I’m not playing 3D chess like Harry and Meghan, who are being targeted yet again in another exhaustive Mail exclusive. Nature abhors a vacuum, and the Mail’s Alison Boshoff wrote an exclusive which could easily become the sole narrative about the Sussexes’ business with Netflix. Some highlights:
The critical response to Polo was awful: Little wonder that the streaming giant now appears to be distancing itself from the show. Indeed, there has been no serious attempt by Netflix to promote the series – something surely almost unheard of for a five-episode programme. The company invested in no poster campaigns for the Duke and Duchess of Sussex’s latest project and its sole promotional attempt consists of a two-line statement from Harry on the streamer’s website.
The Sussexes were heavily involved with the making of ‘Polo’: Executive produced by both Harry, 40, and Meghan, 43 – they also make a brief appearance onscreen in the documentary – the series reflects the prince’s enthusiasm for this elite sport. And, indeed, behind the scenes, both he and Meghan were very hands-on when it came to the filming and editing of the show. The pair, I am told, spent many, many hours poring over footage, offering advice on what should make the cut.
The Waleses are projecting a more marketable image: It would seem that another reinvention for Harry and Meghan has not had the desired impact. What a contrast to William and Kate who, despite their most challenging year yet, have been projecting an entirely more marketable image. Indeed, the Princess of Wales was this week nominated for the prestigious Time Magazine person of the year title, while William has received many plaudits for his well-judged handling of President-elect Donald Trump when both recently attended the re-opening of Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris.
Christmas plans: William also spoke warmly this week of spending Christmas Day with 45 members of his family. Unsurprisingly, the question of whether Harry and Meghan will be welcome among the royal throng pulling crackers at Sandringham is something of a moot one. While nobody is commenting officially – on either side of the Atlantic – the answer to that question is clearly ‘No’. A royal source says: ‘The unspoken understanding is that an invitation is not on the cards.’
Meghan’s 2025 launches: Next year, then, looks to be an uncertain year for the Sussexes, particularly for Meghan, who faces her greatest solo challenge of all – the launch of her Netflix cookery show and of her much-discussed lifestyle brand, American Riviera Orchard. Indeed, after the apparent failure of Polo, so much hangs on her cookery show that some are calling it the ‘last chance’ for her to ‘save’ the couple’s lucrative Netflix deal – which is, after all, their chief source of funding.
Make or break: One Californian source tells me: ‘It’s make or break. People say Netflix are exhausted. It’s so much work with her and, bluntly, the “deliverable” does not seem to be worth it.’ Another entertainment executive remarks: ‘Her show will have to be an enormous hit to turn around their deal and their reputations in this town.’ Well-placed sources indicate the launch of the show and the brand will happen in the first quarter of the year and, judging by the fact that it’s not part of any Netflix schedules in January, we must expect late February – after Harry’s Invictus Games in Whistler, Canada – or even March for the launch.
Secrecy around Meghan’s cooking show: A Netflix source says details of Meghan’s project are being shared with only a ‘tiny’ audience of executives in the US. ‘It’s a very tight circle,’ I am told. ‘Everything to do with her is kept completely secret.’
Netflix’s Ted Sarandos wants Meghan to be their version of Joanna Gaines: So striking are the parallels between [Meghan and Joanna Gaines] that some believe Sarandos is betting big that Meghan will strike a chord with ordinary viewers like down-to-earth Gaines has. They say the duchess will be his version of Gaines – although Meghan’s sophisticated vibe is far distant from Gaines’s down-home Texan charm. Sarandos said of Meghan in September: ‘I’ve been out with a lot of famous people before – the way that people react to Meghan is otherworldly.’
Where ‘Meet Me at the Lake’ stands: Netflix have bought the rights to the chick-lit book Meet Me At The Lake for the Sussexes – an unusual move, as you would expect the producers to find the cash. But whatever stage the scripting is at, it has yet to enter production. The same is true for the couple’s TV series retelling the story of Charles Dickens’s Great Expectations through a feminist lens with Miss Havisham as the heroine. Again, it has yet to enter production. Neither show, then, looks likely to be completed or broadcast before the Netflix deal is up for renewal.
It’s increasingly bizarre to me that the launch of Meghan’s show and ARO product line keep getting pushed back. She filmed the show back in April and May, and it feels like nothing is ready even now. I know Meghan likes to deliver completed projects, but… yeah, it will be interesting to see when all of this stuff comes out. If Sarandos is making a point to groom Meghan into a duchess-y version of Joanna Gaines, I would hope that the financing and promotion is there to back it up. It’s also bizarre that they were “given” Meet Me at the Lake as a property to develop and… absolutely nothing has happened with it. No casting, no director selected, nothing about a workable adapted script.
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When it happens it happens. It is odd that her show was taped last April and nothing has been released but if American Riviera is still working out the trademark issues then not all that strange really.
As for the book adaptation into a film — film a movie takes years from development to wrap and then to release. I doubt this will be a Hallmark or Lifetime movie production, so I’m not surprised it’s taking a minute.
Is it very common for netflix production partners to be questioned like this? Because if not, why won’t netflix shut it down by saying something like “everything is going as planned, stay tuned”? It would shut everyone up. Or if not Netflix then the Archwell Production company. Actually keeping an up-to-date website for the prod company would make them look so much better.
Did you miss the interview Ted Sarandos?? He’s quoted in this article saying how people’s reaction to Meghan is “otherworldly”. How many other people are name checked by the studio chief like that? The Fail churns out these articles by the minute, along with the other UK rags, how exactly is Netflix supposed to shut this crap down? People will either use their brains and realize this is bullshit or they won’t. I think the smart kids know the score.
Netflix could purchase every highway billboard in America singing the praises of H&M and Archwell, and rags like the Fail would still write BS hit pieces about them. It’s how those tabloids operate. They can praise Kate for an almost achievement and William for shaking hands with the Conman-in-Chief, but Harry and Meghan who actually work get shitted on.
@MsIam THANK! YOU!
” People will either use their brains and realize this is bullshit or they won’t.”
Argument dun! (as we say in my neck of the woods.)
Msiam, you are right I did miss that part.
Netflix have a policy of never commenting. They can’t really comment without fanning the flames.
I don’t think Harry and Meghan are playing 3D chess. I think Netflix makes choices about when to release and how to market series and Harry and Meghan follow the rules.
Thank you @MsIam. EVERYTHING the Sussexes do should be done at the speed of lightning.lol
It’s a failure if not.lol I’m exhausted at the emptiness of these articles by the BM and tentacles.
Might be late to the fold. Not familiar with Alison B*tchoff. Love that she’s proving the fact the BM/RR’s NEED H&M to pay their rent as Harry mentioned. Puzzling. They’re so irrelevant, that every Tom, Dick, Angela and Alisson needs to write about them.
They need help, i think.
They need a team that knows what they’re doing to help guide them. I wish they’d understand that it’s okay to take a backseat and let the experts take the reign (with their input) while they learn how to run a production company.
The opportunities are there… but for some reason they keep slipping without an impact.
What have the Wales done that they are considered role models in marketing themselves. Using their awful initiatives like the shampoo commercial and photo shopped photos to put down. The sussexes is ridiculous. The ones that need help are the media people who just won’t leave them alone. Even if there was heavy promotion they still would be slammed.
Woah! @Annie
Seems youve swallowed the kool aid from that schizo who wrote this latest diatribe.
Perspective, people! Use your perspective. Heresa an easy rule of thumb: always believe the opposite of what they write and say. Just go ahead and translate in your head while reading or listening (if us must.) Its like they write/speak in ap articulare (nasty) language and the reader/listener just has to interpret.
Always remember that the goal of the shitmedia and the clowns therein, is to shit on everything H&M. SO they will write from that perspective, i:e put a negative spin on everything H&M. And if the reader is not intelligent, (which is what the shitmedia bank on) then you wont see the nasty games they play with words.
This comment is so satisfying, thank you.
Comment of the day @Kingston! Bloggers, Vloggers, Podcasters and so on need content from the Prince Harry and Princess Meghan. I get it, I really do but come on PeDrews scandal is right there to exploit. Give it a go. H&M are alright. You will all see soon enough, just be patient.
Re: the use of the word “schizo” – I’ve interpreted this as meaning ‘schizophrenic’ which would imply that the article’s author has been diagnosed with a “serious mental illness that interferes with a person’s ability to think clearly, manage emotions, make decisions and relate to others” (NAMI). I’d seriously doubt anyone here knows anything about the author’s medical background, and would rather not see misuse of a medical term that inadvertently smears helpless people suffering from a serious malady that’s not their fault.
Re: bias and reliability of DailyFail (DF, i.e. DailyMail) – It’s generally regarded as a right-wing, low-reliability source by credible organizations that rate news, and Microsoft Edge browser’s ‘NewsGuard’ feature. Wikipedia’s volunteer editors’ consensus view is that DF is ‘generally unreliable’ and its use as a reference s/b avoided especially if other more reliable sources exist. Allsides.com rates DF right-wing regardless of the party affiliation or political bias of survey respondents. Media Bias/Fact Check rates DF as “Right” biased (but not ‘Extreme’) and “Low” on factual reporting (but not ‘Very Low). Ad Fontes Media rates DF as “Mixed Reliability/Opinion OR Other Issues in terms of reliability.” Given all those downvotes from the raters, why does anybody grant DF credence?
Thanks Kingston. I swear, some of these new people’s comments sounds like derangers.
Annie, everything they’ve done has been a success if not broken records so please explain where the slips are?
BTW since you’re not a Sussex fan you may not know they absolutely have a production team. What? Do you think M was running around polo fields holding a steadycam?
I’m going to agree with Annie here. If they do have help, whoever is helping them is NOT getting the right narrative out there. Fans will of course always be pro-H&M…but for those that are casual viewers does their involvement hurt the series? If so, why get involved in producing anything? Why make a podcast? Why produce documentaries?
I don’t get the blind adoration for a subpar rollout of their Netflix series. But I suppose that’s because I’ve enjoyed their work in the past and this doesn’t really match with what I’ve come to expect.
No clue as to the working of Netflix, promotion etc. However, the gutter rats are anxiously waiting for something else to criticize the Sussexes for. Their lack of information allows them to create their own narrative.The time they spend bemoaning Sussex content and information could be used to dissect the China spy connection re Andrew.
Yes!
100%
Exactly this.. they believe that they are some great authority for streaming services and their business practices. The rota and British media making up a narrative to cover up the spy helping traitor that paid over £12M for the rape of a trafficked minor and the Royal slumlords who are only concerned with themselves. if I was British I would be outraged that every time there is credible evidence of heinous acts and crimes by that family the BRF propaganda team starts screaming about the Netflix deal. If any of those rota hacks had any business success or knowledge they wouldn’t be working for .75 cents a word or whatever ridiculous low wage. Chuck, his brother and his heir are where the focus should be, they are literally an organized time family.
The lifestyle thing seems right up Meghan’s alley – she is incredibly charismatic and natural, with an easy style people want to emulate — I do worry that the space is a bit crowded, but she has the innate ability to stand out in a crowded field.
As for being EP’s — being popular does not necessarily equate being able to generate mass appeal content — if it were that easy, we would all be accepting Oscars — sometimes it takes time and experience to learn a craft.
I agree about this possibly becoming the narrative around their Netflix deal. I don’t understand why would H and M, Netflix and WME would let it happen. I hope they don’t. About the cooking show, could it be the patent issue that is holding everything back after she already launched the first marketing campaign with the jams?
Please don’t come at me with “trying to own them” or “dictate to them”. They are public figures with public projects by choice, and we as their audience are entitled to discuss these projects in a respectful manner.
THANK YOU. Some of these comments are verging on deranger-like, where they praise Kate because she wore heels or something. We can be supporters without being blind sycophants and like you said, they are public figures with public projects so there is going to be public discussion about those projects.
Agreed. I like H&M and want to see them succeed and live their best lives. But they are selling to theirfan base in the form of ARO products, Netflix views, podcast episodes, even the Cesta Collective and other products that they provide publicity for through their publicized investments. As consumers of their product we can respectfully and
honestly comment on what is and is not working without “dictating to them” as we would do with any other product that was marketed to us.
I don’t mind discussion or critiques from supporters. I do find myself struggling to critique on this topic so maybe I’m a lite-deranger? lol, I hope not! and if Meghan had concerns about a baby’s skin tone, Id be having something to say. In this case, yeah I wished there had been some promo. There wasn’t and I don’t know why and that’s all I got. I’d like to think there’s a reason? Michelle Obama produced a dating show and went on Sherri Shepherd.
So it can be done. But the fact they didn’t doesn’t mean Netflix is pressed or they’re in a flip era. Some of the discussions are in bad faith. And it’s annoying to see, like last week, names pop up with all these critiques and there yet names I’ve never seen on another post saying something positive about the Sussexes. But you can tell the real supporters
Sorry my comments have been getting eaten up left and right so I’m typing fast on a phone while working😂. Wasn’t trying to make a purity thing about real supporters but just that sometimes people obviously come on here in bad faith and it’s a vibe but there’s also genuine critiques too. And there should be space for that. You and Dee(2) had a chill exchange last week that was nice to read. For me, I’m in just a wait and see what happens vibe.
This is what’s been bothering me lately. People are starting to comment about them like the Derangers and it’s completely unhelpful. They’re human like everyone else and will make mistakes like everyone else. Acting like they can do no wrong doesn’t actually do anything to benefit anyone, including them. They want to be Producers they need to do the work, which does in fact include promoting their work. They can’t treat production like it’s a patronage. And it seems that they’re relying too much on their supporters to do all the work of promotion. That’s not a long-term sustainable solution. Pointing that out isn’t hating on them and it’s frankly ridiculous the way people are acting like it is.
@Jais oh I completely agree that sometimes there is bad faith on here. Like when someone says “did anyone see the rumor that they’re getting divorced? what do we think?” that’s clearly just meant to start trouble.
But the attacking because someone says “I don’t think this was the right move, I wish they had done an interview on a morning show to promote this” is where it starts to get deranger-like IMO. I think they should have promoted this even a smidge and some might think they didn’t need to and neither one of us is objectively wrong, we just have different takes on this.
I doubt Ted Sarandos would be name checking Meghan in a positive way if he had issues with how their Netflix projects are going.
I think it just means that Harry and Meghan are not interested in moving their production company forward and just fulfilling their obligations to Netflix by putting out content. The website for the production company is a landing page. I just can’t get upset about this like others here have.
So idk I can see Meghan moving forward with producing moreso than Harry and maybe it’s that the production company will be transformed and separated from the archwell charity name. Idk that’s just a random guess. I have no idea but I’m excited to see where they go either way.
This is an assumption on your part.
@Annie: Yes it is as I’m free to do but it kind of tracks with what Harry and Meghan have done in the last year and a half. Only Meghan is signed to WME and Harry is focused on his philanthropic work rather than the production company. He had a chance to plug POLO at the Dealbook summit and he didn’t.
This is what I thought. If they do move forward it would be after their contract. The book rights they have acquired might be their first project they have made on their own. Note they are credited as individuals for the Polo series and not as Archewell.
It’s a trademark issue, not a patent issue, and unlike in a patent situation, they can proceed without a trademark without giving away any trade secrets.
Did Archewell confirm they are producing Meet Me at the Lake or is this a story from the tabloids?
The author herself confirmed it (and maybe also Archewell but can’t remember that part).
The one about the dickens show? I don’t think that has been confirmed? But meet me at the lake has been.
I’ve never heard of that one before but it sounds interesting. Seems like it would be a good release for next winter maybe?
It’s an interesting detail bc it is solely coming from sources and rumors. It sounds interesting though. I don’t know why there wasn’t more promo for polo? But I can genuinely see Meghan being interested in producing projects. I know we haven’t seen that as much yet though.
The book is set in Muskoka in the summer so it’s not like they can film there off season. And the strike last year delayed all the productions which we seem to be ignoring.
I honestly doubt this is coming from anyone with any genuine insider access. Netflix execs aren’t spilling to the press. Probably either the press making stuff up, or some low level employee wanting £££.
I watched all the Polo episodes this weekend and I honestly liked it — interesting details and characters and good stories about something I knew very little about. Which is the goal, or am I wrong.
Y’all seriously? We are back to “people in California” and “entertainment executives” again? The documentary with no promotion is in the top five of docs on Netflix btw. As for Meet Me By The Lake, it was announced during the writers strike so who was supposed to write the script? Typically that’s done first and then its cast. And somehow William and Kate and Christmas at Sandringham make an appearance in this article even though they have f*ck-all to do with Netflix. In all the interviews with Ted Sarandos when has he said he wants Duchess Meghan to be his Joanna Gaines? The Fail has always been wrong about everything, remember that.
I think the “Californian source” is that expat former DailyFail hack Richard Minears. The “entertainment executive” is probably expat Tina Brown, former editor of various magazines including Newsweek, for which she resurrected 10-yr past death Princess Diana so she could bank more $$ from speculation.
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It’s also hilarious to me that their SOP is to release a scathing review and then use their own review to write a million more articles screaming at us that “critics say the program sucks and Harry and Meghan are doomed.” The rota rats have admitted they do this in order to crate their own news and the headlines that they want. They get a quote from each other and then write a million articles using the quote as a “royal source” or “insider.” None of this is legitimate.
If it’s in the top five that’s awesome! I did not know that and I’m a fan. Why is that information not out there, though? It should be in the news section of their prod company website, in tandem with a social media post on the company’s Instagram or something. I so so want to see their efforts properly recognized.
It’s not even showing in the top 10 on mine, so if there is a source for the top 5 I’d love to see it, that’s great news!
That said, I’m not spending another week arguing about their promotional strategy or lack thereof, lol.
Becks1, it was in the top 2 a few days ago, certainly before the weekend. There’s a snapshot in a Squaddies’ post on BlueSky.
If it was it in the top 10 Netflix would slap that little “top 10” marker on it like they do for other series, such as the Jon Benet docuseries that’s currently out. I tried to watch it before the weekend and had to dig for it on my husband’s profile.
and I’m not saying this because I want it to fail. I’m saying this because I think a lot of squaddies have blinders on for anything except “H&M are perfect.”
Yes!
Thank you.
You are the sole voice of reason in this rush to judge the Sussexes. Thank you for being calm and collected. I agree with you. Note: after binging Polo. I am watching it again to pick up on the things I missed!
@MsIam, thank you! Everything you said was on point. The BM (along with the RF) have obsessed with H&M’s Netflix deal until their brains have broken. They hate that H&M were paid so handsomely with the opportunity to put out quality productions, proving their value. The BM want H&M to be let go so bad it has become their wet dream. Sorry for the vulgarity, but these tabloids are vulgar.
Well nobody will ever claim to be exhausted by trying to work with any of the other royals, that’s for sure. Why are we getting reheated stories from years ago, what are the RF trying to hide, has Andrew been caught with even more teenagers or selling state secrets to even more foreign powers?
Well, I can imagine trying to work with Keen and convincing her to get off her a&& and actually do something might be pretty exhausting. Different kind though…
Heu. Its a bit scary to read some comments here as if the daily fail knew what is going on or were competent to comment on things they know nothing about. Lets not forget they have an agenda against Harry and trashing Meghan is part of their strategy to get to him. About Polo : what will be the point of promoting the series when we all know anything they say will be turned against them. All the negative are provided by uk tabloids and their us sister like. Otherwise comments are positive and the series seem to do good. As for Meghan, if her concept is solidly linked with selling products, she needs to be ready to do so. In her case, problem is that it was announced too early. Maybe it’s time to stop giving any visibility to the fail on these pages.
Thank you!
Thank you. I don’t think the Sussex’s are above criticism, but why the actual frickery are people using the Fail as a source to criticize them? Or as a source of fact about ARO’s launch date???
Yep.
Yes! The fail and similar like mind media no less than Jon Snow. They are no a barometer of reality.imo They’re a barometer of negativity regarding the Sussexes. Alway have been. Someone here once said that Meghan could find the cure for cancer and the BM/US connected tabloids would complain she didn’t find it soon enough.
I’ve had no expectations of the promotion of POLO. Certainly didn’t believe Meghan would be doing the promotion.
So agree with Julie. Stop giving the Fail any credence. It becomes akin to fans re-tweeting troll shit.
I think it’s hilarious that this Daily Heil writer says that everyone hates the Sussexes and Netflix can’t wait to dump them…and also that Netflix boss Ted Sarandos wants to turn Meghan into the next big thing in the home and lifestyle space. And can’t see her own contradiction.
I personally dislike Joanna and Chip G, and their show (shiplap!!!) and products, but I can’t deny they are/were huge. However the British press are full of liars and deniers about the popularity and impact of the Sussexes, so even if Meghan’s show and lifestyle line are as successful as Joanna G, I don’t expect the Fail to be honest about it. They’ve been lying about Meghan since the day she and Harry stepped out at the IG.
I must live under a rock bcos ive never heard of this joanna person before (LMAO) is she the young blond haired woman who recently got married and does some slap-dash cooking on tik tok? I hardly ever view tik tok unless I follow a a clip from twitter to that app.
PS: M wont be doing “a cooking show.” She will be doing a lifestyle show which celebrates the joys of cooking, gardening, entertaining and friendship. With such a broad concept and knowing M’s ethos, people should at least realize that what she will bring to the table \will be unique.
Get it together peeps!
Joanna Gaines and she is a huge HGTV personality with a house renovation show, a line at Target, etc.
So no, she’s not the young blond haired whatever you’re trying to describe. Meghan having the success of Joanna Gaines in the lifestyle sphere would be awesome.
Joanna and her husband had a show on HGTV called Fixer Upper and from there they launched a lifestyle brand and media company. I don’t watch shows like that so I don’t know much else about her. But I remember some kind of kerfuffle because she belongs to an anti-gay church that preaches conversion therapy.
Huevo and Kate have no marketable images. Fake images were released of Kate early this year. The time magazine nomination of keen is a joke. Putting keens up as marketable is a joke.
Right?! And they show us this everytime they write about the Wailses or even their own king and his mistress bride because in every single article about every other royal, they talk about Harry and Meghan. If Will and Kate were actually popular they wouldn’t need to bring H&M into every conversation to get clicks and money. The Sussexes sell while the rest of the royal family – up to and including the monarch – do not.
Why do you sound like a robot in all your comments
Once again the toxic hyperscrutiny of the Sussexes creating unrealistic, unreasonable expectations/demands which they will then be criticized for not meeting. It can take years from the time book rights are bought to the actual production being released, This year It Ends With Us was released as a movie, Justin Baldoni optioned the rights in 2019. So it took five years. But the Sussexes are supposed to already be doing something with Meet Me At The Lake. Usually, you don’t hear details when things are in that early production stage. But again the Sussexes are supposed to be providing info/updates. That is where all this “Why no promo” is coming from. This expectation/demand that the Sussexes are supposed to be doing something when Netflix doesn’t typically do a lot of promo for doc and when EP’s don’t typically do a lot of promo. The Daily Mail evalualtion of the Sussexes is meaningless. They lie and lie and lie. Just a few weeks ago they were claiming Netflix was angry that Harry was featured. We know now from the showrunner that the plan from the beginning never included Harry being in the production.
meant to write angry that Harry was not featured
William decidedly did not speak warmly of The Christmas plans. He seemed more annoyed at the 45 people on the large room. All the spending time with the cousins talk. They probably spend little time with the. Throughout the year.
Agreed Scrooge like Will definitely won’t be paying for or hosting his extended family at Xmas when he is king!
I was surprised by the lack of promotion for POLO. I didn’t expect much (and nothing with Meghan) but I thought we would see a similar type of video that William just did with Hannah W. I figured it would be something cute with Nacho and Harry and then the press would run with it. But I don’t think it matters. I enjoyed POLO more than I thought I would but a series like this wouldn’t have cost the earth to produce. I think Netflix and Archewell know that they will get enough eyes from the Sussex Squad, the Derangers, actual polo fans and people who just like sports docs. Its filler content for them. I have zero idea whats going on with her show but it would make sense to stagger productions/appearances and do it after the media hoopla of both the court case and Invictus. I think we get it in the spring with ARO.
The DM said that Meghan’s show filmed in April or May. There was never any confirmation on when the show was filmed. Look, whenever it comes out it comes out. All the other anecdotes in this piece seem to be made up or speculation. The big clue is the number of times “I’m told” is in the article.
@AMYBEE…THANK YOU! We have no official confirmation from the Sussexes about ANY of DMs BS…and since this is about the ENTERTAINMENT & NOVELTIES that Meghan is producing…I have NO problem waiting for it.
And I watched “Polo” which was spectacular…I see the stance they’re taking regarding projects that aren’t about them in which they are highlighted…letting the product stand on it’s own
“I’m told” is a useful way to avoid being sued for those who love to lie.
Sorry… they have no info, and they have written an article hoping to start a narrative that will force Harry and Meghan to respond.
Why are people falling for this same old same old?
It’s never going to stop , this character assassination.
They will be criticised for whatever they do and the others praised for breathing .
It really was a mortal sin to leave that family and they will pay for it for the rest of their lives or while this mob are still alive to abuse them .
It’s horrifying to see it continue unabated .
@Cassie, let me correct this for you
“It really was a mortal sin for Harry & Meghan to go ahead and get married and not break up & for Harry to choose Meghan & leave that family and they will pay for it for the rest of their lives or while this mob are still alive to abuse them . That is what is at the crux
Either way they DO NOT want Meghan in that family not now and not back then nor was Harry ever suppose to leave that family regardless of his mental health . He was supposed to be William’s work house / cover up for all his misdemeanours
Meghan is Harry’s backbone and also his point of weakness due to his love for his wife so they will always go after Meghan to ” humiliate & destroy ” Harry . They do not care if Meghan gets destroyed in the process
Random unnamed sources in a daily mail exclusive. Shocking. I really enjoyed Polo and would watch a second season. I would’ve loved to see a little promo from Harry. But I’m not seeing this as some huge failure. I’m just seeing a lot of bad faith people talking about full-on flops. They produced a well-made show about polo🤷♀️.
I binge watched it last Friday and really enjoyed it. If there’s a second season, I’ll watch it.
The have an entire John le Carre novel unfolding over there, and they’re focusing their attention on someone else’s business deals. I guess it just goes to show how uninteresting and unprofitable all those other royals are. You would think that that would concern the people that depend on the public, but I guess why should it? They’re still treating Andrew like a naughty boy with a finger wag, and Harry and Meghan like the ones that have been investigated by governments for connections to sexual predators, being accused of sexual predators themselves, involved in shady business deals, and are known to consort with literal spies.
It’s MAKE OR BREAK again for them!!!
Do I think Meghan is “too difficult” for Netflix executives or whoever? No, I absolutely do not. First, Hollywood is full of hardworking perfectionists (if that’s what they’re calling Meghan) and there are lots of aholes running things.
Second – Meghan knows that every move she makes is hyperscrutinized – if she snapped at an employee the DM would have a story about it the next day. So no, I dont think she’s “exhausting” for Netflix to work with. If she was, the CEO wouldn’t be as big a fan of hers as he clearly is.
I do think they’re in kind of a weird position because of that hyperscrutiny though, in that their projects get leaked before they’re reading to announce because the british press is coming through filings (didn’t they find out about the cooking show by realizing Meghan was renting a house down the street for the filming?) or there is one small leak from a non-Archewell source and the press goes to town with that. So it seems like things are taking a really long time when it may be normal by industry standards, we just don’t usually hear that a celebrity is filming a cooking show until right before it launches, you know?
“People say” is the usual preface to the mean comments about Harry and Meghan.
Outside of Variety’s interview with the director of Polo, the only other headline I saw about it (besides anything posted by the DM and it’s ilk) was about how people wanted a second season of it so take that what you will.
I have no idea how EPing works or what is or isn’t normal, but I’m just going to assume from here on out that whatever they do, they’re doing it with the backing of Netflix/whoever it is they’re working with. This speculation is exhausting. Unless it’s coming from them (or NAMED) sources, it’s filler for column inches.
The DM is now saying they don’t know if any of Meghan’s show has been filmed which contradicts what they previously reported that it was filmed in May so why are we expected to believe this article?
I don’t find it strange her show hasn’t launched yet. Bridgerton always launches a year after it films usually. Maybe they aren’t promoting the Polo documentary because the media blitz will surround Meghan’s cooking show? My guess is they know the British tabs will attack it whenever it does launch and criticize it to pieces and for her own mental health she’s going to promote the projects she cares about the most. And maybe she’s trying to rename her ARO brand if the patent wasn’t approved and that’s what’s causing the delay. I do think her launching the website and jam photo campaign, as cute as it was, was very premature. But maybe she did that because the tabs were going to reveal the name, not sure.
If anything, Harry is the one who should have been promoting Polo, not Meghan. He’s the one that plays the sport and he’s the one who came up with the idea. He should be out there giving interviews and is the one deserving criticism there.
Alison Boshoff never disappoints, a tawdry, racist, two bit reporter.
We know the derangers and BM will trash whatever Meghan and Harry produce. If Harry had been featured they would say Harry is exploiting his title to make money and get noticed. They’re mad because Harry is not the featured character. However, it’s great that he managed to include press about Sentebale. Anyway, everything the Sussexes have been involved with will stand the test of time. Spare, by the way is still selling. There was no promotion of the paperback. The audible made top five somewhere, I forget.
“William and Kate who, despite their most challenging year yet, have been projecting an entirely more marketable image.”
That’s the only item in this article that’s interesting. Are they telling us that Billy & Bone Idle are now marketing themselves? Why? To do what? Enquiring minds want to know.
Kate got attention this year because she basically disappeared for 4 months after announcing she had surgery and got caught puttìng out bogus photos and Trump couldn’t even play along with the British press in promoting William as a global statesman. Is that really good marketing?
I don’t get the impression that Harry and Meghan care that much about what Will and Kate are doing. Like what are they supposed to do with that info? Even during the fake mother’s day photo scandal, they tried to drag the Sussexes into it by harassing photographer friend Misan Harriman. I seriously think they are not remotely interested in whatever BS they get up to or how they’re “marketing “ themselves.
Honestly, I’m not waiting around for Sussex content on Netflix so finding this whole Netflix conversation a bit weird and one sided. They currently have 3 shows on Netflix, 4 if you count Live to Lead. Polo is starting to get positive word of mouth. It seems that it’s not necessarily the pace of output that’s causing complaints but the amount of content that feature the Sussexes themselves. They want to see them. Part of me thinks they’re overextended with too many projects and initiatives going on simultaneously, as well as a definite push and emphasis on their philanthropic causes this year. 2024 was definitely Archewell Foundation’s, Invictus and Harry’s charities year. Let’s hope 2025 is Archewell Production’s larger rollout. As a side note, I don’t think Meghan or the Sussexes are trying to reinvent themselves or even be more available than they want to be. Part of the frustration is not hearing a response from them to these stories but maybe they don’t consider it worthy of a response, regardless of the handwringing and criticism here and in social media land. They made a point of completely cutting out the UK media on their lady trip but did respond to US media regarding Meghan’s work style and the bullying smear, so make of that what you will. It is what it is.
Their last trip, the one to Colombia, not “ lady” trip.
I love Harry and Meghan and me loving them does not mean I can’t have an opinion about them when I feel that they have dropped the ball. Sure . I don’t know what is going on in their lives or business but I think since it’s their name and company project, then yes. They should promote it . Like Kaiser said , Meghan is happy to plug things she invest in so why not plug this ? Make a small promotion video hyping the heck out of polo and whatever else projects they have coming whenever they are ready . And I think sometimes fans of them want to bury their heads in the sand because they think if they admit that Harry and Meghan could do something different it makes them seem less committed as fans but that’s insane. Harry and Meghan are humans like the rest of us and we all make mistakes. It’s okay not to agree with everything they do and still love them and want the best for them. If we keep agreeing with everything they do, we begin to sound like the royalist and I think that is a terrible thing to look and sound like.
I think it’s fair to criticize something we don’t like or not like how they do certain things, but this seems an over reaction to a smaller niche show. Netflix showed a preview, the show runner gave interviews and it’s being mentioned in press blurbs. I bet they thought that is promotion. Would have been great to see some of the players on a morning talk shows but that didn’t happen. What I’m seeing here, especially with the so-called professional separation (invented by the tabloids),is a need for reassurance from the Sussexes. That everything is fine. Why would a small show merit this much hysteria. You guys want a hand-holding pap walk with them saying X,Y,Z is in the pipeline. People sound worried.
From what I’ve seen, most of the plugs for Meghan’s investments come from the companies themselves. That way the focus is on the company rather than Meghan, as much is possible, of course. So, maybe the expectation was that Netflix would do the PR, which as the distributer is their primary responsibility.
Same old, same old – you can tell this is a British tabloid source because Meghan takes ALL of the blame for their joint projects. Harry, of course, is the Polo player and the most connected to that world, and they are both executive producers, but it’s Meghan who wears what the tabloids are (in my view prematurely) calling a failure. She’s the one referred to as “exhausting” to work with and on her “last chance” to save the Netflix deal, not Harry. It’s the same kind of language that the BM uses to describe how Meghan used her evil Black girl witchcraft to steal away their Ginger Prince, as if he had no agency and everything is all HER fault. Typical.
Everything they do is a failure according to the tabloids. They can’t crank it out fast enough, give enough of themselves, show their kids, respond to everything, not react to everything, so it’s a failure.
Imagine being a human who is just trying to live their life and getting this harassment from an entire industry for 5 years and counting. Meghan has tons of class and doesnt feed into this bs, I’d throw punches back in the press at these lowlifes.
I’m so sick of this. They can’t get to her the way they used to so they’re getting worse. They will hound her into her geriatric years the way they keep at it. I’m glad Meghan has decided to just go about her social and business life and ignore most of it. Otherwise you’d just exhaust yourself .
Am wondering if they are sitting low due to the lawsuit? Or maybe since they’ve been bullied so long ( Harry esp. ) that they need some time to relearn how to
cope?
Maybe have a meeting with Taylor who could coach them on promotion while “ Shaking it Off”
@wolfmamma
LOL youre quite a far way out of the loop, arent you?
FYI: H&M went deep into therapy after they left that Shithole back in 2020. We saw some of that on their H&M Netflix docu. Conveniently, the whole world was on lock-down so they were able to do their thing in peace. In fact, they both used Better Up’s services not only for themselves but they made it available to their entire staff. For free. (PS: in case you dont know yet, the entire Universe….along with M’s ancestors…..hv been working in the Sussexes favor since they met, helping them to make very timely, strategic moves.) By May 2021, H told Dax Shepherd on his podcast that he had done so much therapy and had become so at peace with himself and his experiences (as per Spare) that he’s at the point where he doesnt NEED therapy anymore but he still feels good doing it so he dips in every now and then.
The Sussexes told the world that their “look-back” projects (i:e their personal docu and Spare) were done and dusted, with H saying further: “My wife and I, we’re moving on.”
And in case there are still folks who are anticipating them answering to any of the hit pieces against them in the british shitmedia, listen to what H said in the DealBook Summit in NY on Dec 4: “Oh its seems we’re buying our 10th house now and we’re supposed to have been divorced about 10 or 12 times already.” And he laughs. Then he says he feels sorry for the trolls, how they keep getting their hopes up only to have it dashed over and over again.
Some time toward the end of November, after the most recent divorce stories had been swirling for a while, I saw a bunch of the usual british pirates-with-press-passes sitting around on a podcast, wondering how come H&M hvnt come out together holding hands and looking lovey-dovey to quash rumors of a divorce. They were genuinely perplexed, saying thats what the royals’ PR would have done, as thats how theyve done things in the past. (!) It made me recall the cringey shampoo commercial Bully & kitty did to quash rumors of THEIR separation and pending divorce.
Get it? This is how the britIsh shitmedia have controlled the RF, using them like puppets on a string, for decades. And theyre doing their best to believe they exert the same control-by-fear over H&M but theyre very frustrated, as H&M keep blanking them, laughing at them and living their lives ON THEIR OWN TERMS.
You’re projecting.
They don’t read this stuff – Harry told us over a dozen times.
If you need therapy, get some. Harry’s had therapy for years and doesn’t need ridiculous advice.
I don’t understand the constant whining and criticism of H/M on the promotion for Polo. Has it been different than any other sports docuseries on Netflix? What are the viewing numbers and how do they compare other sports docuseries on the streaming service? Isn’t that information needed before criticizing how they went about things?
As for ARO hasn’t it been mentioned that they are working on the trademark so it makes sense that the series has been postponed until that is resolved.
All of this makes me wonder what is the true complaint about the couple.
They produced mixed race heirs to the throne!!!
THIS is the basis of the rage and hate…plus the fact that their prince refuses to abandon his wife and children.
These haters wish Meghan and the children didn’t exist.
Yep people are acting shady and it’s not about Archewell Productions
” It’s also bizarre that they were “given” Meet Me at the Lake as a property to develop and… absolutely nothing has happened with it. No casting, no director selected, nothing about a workable adapted script.”
We really do not know this at all. All we know is that they will be producing a film based on the book and that the author is very happy with their ideas and arrangements and her interactions with them. Given that the same article says that everything to do with them (especially M) is kept secret, those “sources” have no clue either. People with a clue aren’t blabbing to tabloids and others with an axe to grind and a mission to destroy this couple’s projects before they get off the ground.
There is no indication that Netflix is their main source of income. If it were, they would be pushing out lots of content on a regular basis.
I am confused by your thought process here. Nature hates a vacuum?
When the stories created about them are never based on facts whether they release a statement or not.
It’s like everyone is unaware how well Polo is doing.
How well Harry and Meghan is still doing
How other actors tell us of movies they worked for 20 years. How many production companies this young are producing hits every 2 years. Consistently.
Nothing is unusual here. Open your own production company and let’s see you release multiple projects in one year
Really people? Really?
You are all tiring.
As if there isn’t a children’s docu series that was shelved 🤷🏾♀️
I’m not surprised by the BM and their tabloids anymore. HM can do really well and they still would write that it’s a failure. The one thing about the US is that we all know we can fail at any one project, get right back up , and hit it big(real big) in the next. And that’s the reason why they will never ever understand the US entrepreneurial mindset, ever.
“What a contrast to William and Kate who, despite their most challenging year yet, have been projecting an entirely more marketable image.”
What is marketable about skipping through a meadow, declaring oneself cancer-free but still deciding to do barely any work at all?
What is marketable about showing up to public events with a scraggly beard and persistent scowl and an occasionally unsteady stance, but with no discernible people skills?
I’m genuinely curious.