Prince Harry traveled to Angola around July 15/16. He was there for a few days, highlighting the work of his longtime patronage, The HALO Trust. British outlets were not allowed anywhere near Harry, but his trip – and his walk through a minefield – garnered international coverage. According to the Mail, Harry traveled to Botswana for several days after he left Angola. He likely visited his surrogate parents, Tania “Teej” Jenkins and Mike Holding, and the Mail is making a big deal about how Harry went off-grid, with one source telling them: “This time he took some more time and space, and made the trip into a week-long visit to reconnect with old friends and get some headspace away from his phone and emails. He went off comms for two days or so. It was a good moment for Harry to take some time away from everything, enjoying total peace of mind and being somewhere so remote that he couldn’t even get emails or texts or calls.” I hope he did go to Botswana for a week! I honestly wondered at the time if Meghan and the kids were relatively close-by when Harry was in Angola, and it would not surprise me at all if this was actually Archie and Lili’s first trip to Botswana.
Speaking of the Angola trip, did you know that it overshadowed Queen Camilla’s birthday? LMAO. Well, connected to that, the usual suspects are still talking about the “peace summit” several weeks ago, with the Sussexes’ reps meeting with King Charles’s PR guru. Apparently, Prince Harry made a “peace offering” to his father: an offer to share his schedule with the palace, to avoid constantly stealing the left-behinds’ thunder. I cannot stop giggling at this.
Prince Harry has offered to share his official diary engagements with the Royal Family in a bid to further reduce tensions between him and his father, The Mail on Sunday can reveal. The peace offering is aimed at avoiding a repetition of the date clash that resulted in his trip to the African country of Angola knocking coverage of Queen Camilla’s 78th birthday portrait off the front pages earlier this month. Images of the duke retracing his late mother’s footsteps through a minefield – accompanied by throwback pictures of Princess Diana in the same location 28 years ago – dominated almost every UK newspaper.
The new diary-sharing arrangement is even believed to extend to Prince William’s court at Kensington Palace. And it is also hoped the move to ‘deconflict’ their diaries could lead to the King and his younger son finally being able to fix a date in their busy schedules to meet face to face.
It comes as lines of communication between the Sussex household and Buckingham Palace have continued to remain open since The Mail on Sunday exclusively revealed earlier this month that peace talks had been held between representatives from both sides. The King’s head of communications Tobyn Andreae and the Sussexes’ chief communications officer Meredith Maines were pictured in the MoS a fortnight ago meeting on a London club balcony, accompanied by Harry’s UK press officer Liam Maguire.
Last night, a source described the latest development to share the duke’s schedule as a significant milestone. They added: ‘Before that meeting between their aides in London, conflicts of interest or clashes of publicity were relished and even perhaps encouraged by the Sussexes. Now, Harry has shifted into a new way of thinking. The tone is now all about ‘deconflicting’ with his family. That’s why his household agreed to draw up a “grid” of his activities and share them with Buckingham Palace, and by extension with Kensington Palace. Harry still doesn’t like being controlled by the Royal machinery, and that won’t change. However, if the Royal Family have full sight of his movements they can at least plan accordingly. It’s a significant gesture.’
The Angola trip was only the latest in a number of personal appearances by the California- based couple which overshadowed coverage of a series of official engagements and good works by the Royals. This year, matters have been further complicated by Harry’s wife Meghan starting up two social media pages offering glimpses into her home life with Harry, which inevitably dominated the news agenda in the UK.
This state of affairs cannot fail to have upset King Charles, who is known to be a stickler for ensuring Royal Family members do not schedule engagements that clash with each other. It is understood that, while the new regime will stop short of Harry giving his brother the power to control his diary, the duke is – for the first time since hostilities began in 2020 – open to Prince William being given knowledge of his movements.
It could be an initiative that William comes to appreciate when he travels to Brazil to promote his Earthshot Prize, which recognises ‘game-changing innovations that will repair our planet’, in early November. But it is a reconciliation with his father rather than his brother that appears to be at the top of Harry’s list of priorities.
What a self-own by the Windsors, you know? Having to acknowledge that the Sussexes still overshadow them constantly when the Sussexes are just living their lives. Meghan posting on her Instagram overshadows William and Kate’s bare bones work schedule. Harry working with the HALO Trust overshadowed Camilla’s hilariously Photoshopped birthday portraits. As for Harry’s offer to share his schedule… it’s actually a terrible idea and I hope it doesn’t happen. One of the few things Harry has going for him is his Incognito/Ninja Mode, where he can just turn up in Shanghai or Ukraine or Canada without anyone releasing that information to the British tabloids in advance. As soon as he starts sharing his schedule with his father and brother, the Daily Mail is going to get so many “exclusives” about Harry’s travels and events. Harry will also find that William and Charles will be doing the most to “compete” with Harry on days where he has events. Hopefully, the first time that happens, Harry will rescind his offer of schedule-sharing. Still, it’s insanely funny that they mentioned Meghan’s IG posts. The palace is begging to know when Meghan is going to post on her social media!!
Photos courtesy of Cover Images, Meghan’s IG and the HALO Trust’s IG.
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- Harry, Duke of Sussex arrives at the Royal Courts of Justice, central London, for the start of his appeal against a High Court ruling on his legal claim against the Home Office over the level of security he receives while he is in the UK Featuring: Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex Where: London, United Kingdom When: 09 Apr 2025 Credit: Cover Images
Seriously doubt Harry will share his schedule updates because of the risk this would put him in. I also feel this is more noise coming from an institution desperately trying to hold onto relevance by corralling the folks that escaped.
I hope so too. Having made their great escape, sharing schedules places them back at security risk and is a major step backwards.
The rats should focus on the left behinds, not the Sussexes.
The ‘sharing schedule’ story has the whiff of 🐴 💩 which makes me suspect Chuck’s horsey wife (who was very involved in hiring Tobyn Andreae away from DailyFail) trying to land a hit on Harry. ITA that “rats should focus on the left behinds.” But this story sounds like DailyFail telling readers to keep $ub$scribing and clicking on the web$ite because they’ll be getting more insider scoops on Harry – who obviously garners more attention than the left-behinds.
However, it’s likely Harry did share Birmingham Invictus Games schedule.
@Kirk that would be my guess also, that Harry is possibly sharing “a” schedule (and who knows how much of that would be “his” schedule) to do with Invictus. This is from the DM, so conceivably there’s a small grain of truth via Tobyn post the meeting a few weeks ago. Most of the article is just the usual mindless embroidery to up the word count and sound like they have insider knowledge.
Someone here suggested Charles plans his own schedule 2+ years in advance, which makes sense, busy as he is. As king, CIC, and patron of the RBL, which fields the UK IG team, it would make sense for Charles to (finally) show up for the IG in general and the UK team in particular, and that requires planning. Since the president of Germany made an appearance at IG Dusseldorf, the Dutch king and a NATO contingent attended IG The Hague, it would be even more pathetic and embarrassing than his behavior so far re: the IG if Charles ignores their presence in his own country. Of course, that’s if Charles is so fortunate as to still be around. All bets are off if it’s Will in that chair.
I firmly believe that the reason the Sussex’s family stayed alive was because the don’t share their schedules with the left overs.. it is also how they can travel to places incognito and we find out when post are made after the event.. I also imagine it cuts down on security costs when the travel itinerary isn not leaked to the tabloids. Sharing it with an institution that sells you out at every opportunity just makes no sense whatsoever.
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I don’t believe for a second that Harry offered this. Look at the wording:
“(…)That’s why his household agreed to draw up a “grid” of his activities and share them with Buckingham Palace, and by extension with Kensington Palace. Harry still doesn’t like being controlled by the Royal machinery, and that won’t change. However, if the Royal Family have full sight of his movements they can at least plan accordingly.”
They offered to draw up a “grid”. That can be a very very rough grid – and it should be. But it is for sure salt islands wet dream to have access to his actual calendar. So they dictate it to the mail to let Harry know of their expectations. Just think of it, how easy and plannable it would be to sabotage him and his projects then, right? Oooh, this excitement… I can feel it.
Exactly! Harry is not sharing his schedule with the lying leakers. He’s more concerncerned about HIS immediate family’s (Meghan, Archie, Lili) safety. Sharing his schedule ain’t it. LOL. Try harder royal shites. Harry’s been done playing your games for years no matter how hard you say otherwise.
@Maxine Branch: You make a good point about Harry’s security concerns. It wouldn’t be smart to share his schedule with the Palace given it has a major problem with leaking to the press.
I hope Harry doesn’t, no good can come from it for Harry himself.
Would he be *required* to share just his own or also his schedule with his wife? What is the definition of an event? Would he be *required* to share his kids events?
These are people who pulled his security and likely leaked his whereabouts in Canada, putting his and his family’s life in danger. Why risk your life again?
They also likely leaked his Los Angeles location, endangering them all further.
Whatever he has planned, these people will likely try to make him look bad… loom what happened to Sentebale
They’ve been leaking Hazza’s whereabouts, trying to get him unalived since his first tour in Afghanistan, long before he met Meghan. Someone(s) in his family was jealous that he was out there serving his country and looking like an action hero. Possibly someone who, if his meemaw wasn’t CiC, would probably have been tossed out of the military for his own behaviour.
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Maxine agree with you 💯. Harry knows his security risks and the hatefulness of his family. He won’t risk his or his family’s safety. Why are we discussing a post from a BM rags?? As Harry and Meghan have stated, all sources and information will come from their communication team. Always. No one speaks for them. I will wait for verification from Harry’s and Meghan’s team.
Agreed. Harry said he wants a family not an institution so why would he grant the institution any type of control? This is wishful thinking from the palace to settle the media who haven’t been able to profit off the Sussexes in the same way they did when Meghan joined.
“The peace offering is aimed at avoiding a repetition of the date clash that resulted in his trip to the African country of Angola knocking coverage of Queen Camilla’s 78th birthday portrait off the front pages earlier this month”
Who cares about the Rottweiler’s birthday? It will only remind people that Diana died so she could become Queen. It’s the rats’ fault that they chose to have Harry on the cover. Not on the Sussexes.
As for sharing schedules, this is one way to control the Sussexes especially if they’re keen to control Meghan’s IG. I hope the Sussexes told them to fuck off. They were never supported by the Palaces, in fact the opposite, so why should the Sussexes prop up the dwindling popularity of the Windsors? This is all on Chuck and his incompetence.
Another reason why the “overshadowing” argument fails to work when hurled at H+M is that the Sussexes aren’t the ones who decide what goes on the front pages: the rats and their editors do. It’s hilarious beyond belief.
The palaces and their minions are basically admitting that whenever they are out and about, they are hoping to overshadow the Sussexes and acknowledging that they fail miserably each time – even a basic post by M knocks them off the front pages.
Yeah unless Harry has some kind of editorial control over the UK newspapers, he’s not doing any overshadowing. They have the choice on whether or not to cover him, and especially for the Angola trip given the fact that they weren’t given press passes they really had no reason to cover that trip to the extent they did. They just know that no one cared about The uncanny valley birthday photos of Camilla. And a way to explain away why no one cared was that he took her attention.
Beyond the fact that there is something going on every single day on this planet by a celebrity, politician, athlete and none of them have to ” coordinate diaries”, asking your former employee to tell you when he is working is a ridiculous ask.
The fact that the UK media didn’t have a press pass and that his trip to Angola was after the so called “reconciliation summit” it makes it very unlikely that this agreement of sharing his schedule is even true. For it to be true the palaces would have known in advance that he was going to Angola and it wouldn’t have been a surprise to the media that he was there. It also doesn’t make sense because exposing their schedule in advance to the palace isn’t something that Harry would do because he has said with his whole chest that giving the palace any information about their travels and locations is one of the things that they leak that has caused them to be swarmed by paparazzi and put in dangerous situations. As Harry said it was six weeks of the media not knowing where they were when they were in Canada and the same when they were at Tyler’s and their new home in Montecito. It was only after sharing with the palaces that they were found and relentlessly swarmed by paparazzi.
Again. Yes. The British Media choose to have what overshadows the OTHERS events. The papers have control over what THEY print. Sitting on a photograph of Meghan taking a walk whilst Chuckie was getting his big boy crown doesn’t mean she took a walk during his big boy crown/hat day. It’s how the BM wanted to play it. Bozo band at work.
Truly, that is risible!!! 😆😆🙂↔️. Boo bloody hoo!!!! As many have said here time & again, the Sussexes have zero control over their coverage. That is in the hands of the rota rats. If they can sit on coverage of the ‘peace summit’ until the men’s final at Wimbledon, they could have sat on THEIR OWN COVERAGE of Harry at the minefield until after Camilla’s almighty birthday portrait. Fer cryin’ out loud, do they not see how utterly stoooopid this is??? 🤦♀️
Pegs can’t repair anything and he’s now going to repair the planet. The private jets and the yachts he takes causes more problem s for the planet. No way is harry going to share his schedule with his dad. Who would just leak to the media. This is another fantasy story by a source. So Charles can let harry know it’s one of his cousins birthdays so harry has to change the date.
“game-changing innovations that will repair our planet’”
Hey Willy, here are three innovations:
1. Stop using Uber chopper.
2. Fly commercial.
3. Stop holidaying on gas-guzzling yachts.
Not so easy for you eh, Earthshit?
4. Spend some money on your rental properties to make them safe and energy efficient
5. Don’t move into huge Belvedere, which must be horrific to heat. Instead, pick one of your many luxurious homes, perferably a smaller one, and live there while renting out the others or turning them over to charities.
Oh come on!! I doubt seriously that stealth Harry will share his “ schedule” with Daddy who took his security away!!! I believe that Harry knows why his mother was killed and who was involved and he isn’t going to let that happen to him or his family!! Sounds like the gutter press is trying to goad Harry into making a statement but Harry isn’t playing their game. They are pissed that they didn’t know until after it has all happened and that British gutter press is not welcome at his events!!!
The rats want their schedule so they can talk and monetise them again as if the last five years haven’t happened. Think this is their order to Chuck and the Palaces.
Chuck doesn’t care. His statement that he wishes them luck overseas was his true sentiment. These are the rats screwing with him.
You would think they’d be really pissed at the Wales for vacationing in Greece without telling them first. They got scooped by Greek reporters & you know that that sticks in their collective craw. They also seem to forget that they told us years ago that each household does things on their own schedule, hence no great outrage on their part for Kate stepping on the monarch’s news cycle at the flower show a few years ago. That seems to be a bigger faux pas than some no-big-deal-number birthday photo (one not taken by Kate this time).
This can’t possibly be true. Why would Harry think sharing his schedule with his father and company could possibly keep his peace and safety of his wife and children he currently has. I don’t believe this . It would be insane. And I can’t imagine Meghan would think that those people knowing her life plans is a good thing after how much they try to make her life a living hell every day all day . Nope I call bs the only part I know is true is that the left behinds are seriously panicking because Harry and Meghan take all their thunder without trying and they have no clue how to get any part of Harry and Meghan spotlight to shine on them
I HIGHLY doubt this story is true. The DM have so many different versions of this meeting. He has no need to share his schedule because I’m sure he knows it would be unsafe to do that and Harry is all about his safety. And Harry will always overshadow the RF whether he shares his schedule or not.
I hope it is not true because here they are leaking it to the press ……an indication of exactly what would happen to information shared with that family.
I hope you are right, why should he allow the Palace to control him again, after all they drove him out and it hasn’t worked for them, He is doing fine without them. As for overshadowing Camilla’s birthday, it was the editor of the DM who decided to do that.
If this is true that he is going to share his schedule I have to say this imo is a huge mistake and serious security threat.. every thing that is shared with those people gets leaked to the tabloids in real time. If I was Prince Harry I would not risk my family’s life once again for these people.
My first thought is a horrified NO WAY. This endangers Harry and if they get his schedule and know where H and his family will be, there will be leaks.
I hope, I pray this is a made up, golly we wish this were true, maybe we can make it come true, kind of messaging from the rota.
Besides, I LIKE Harry in stealth mode. I like that he shows up and does good. I like that some times he conflicts w/their schedules. Because it’s up to the rota who is on the front page, not Harry.
I hope in his reconciliation notes he indicates that the second his schedule is leaked, it’s over.
I hope this would be his last time trusting them to do the right thing, because I think they are incapable of it. I don’t think they would recognize the right thing even if it came up and slapped them silly. Stay safe, Harry.
It’s strange, you would think the the Rota would know that it is they who decide who goes on the front page.
I know, right. They’re on the front page, and being blamed for being on the front page when they have nothing to do with what goes on the front page. It’s insanity.
I too think its a huge security risk for Harry to share his calender because they have shown themselves to be untrust worthy . Wanting to conrol them most likely involes vetoing most of their events due to non events from the left behinds don’t do it Harry. unless your father is providing security or its curtailed to one event like invictus
I wouldn’t trust any royal “security” provided by Chuckles at this point. They will brief the bad guys and look the other way while the unthinkable happens.
“DON’T DO IT HARRY” I wouldn’t trust that nest of vipers to tell me the time let alone where Harry and his family will be on any given date. I truly understand why he would want to make peace with his father but, giving the palaces that kind of access is asking for the worst kind of trouble. We all saw what happened in NYC and I’ve no doubt they’d try it again if they knew H&M’s schedules.
Oooh. I hope that’s not true. He already has to give RAVEC notice anytime he wants to enter the uk. And let’s be real bc how many time have Will and Kate stepped on Camilla and Charles schedule this year? But no, they want an exact schedule for every time Meghan posts on SM, lol.
I dont think its true. harry likes to move about in stealth mode and this would take that away bc the rota would know his movements ahead of time AND william would plan events to “steal Harry’s thunder.”
This makes it sound like Harry is sharing his google calendar with the family and I don’t think he’s anywhere close to that. part of the reason he left was so he could be in charge of his events and appearances.
No way would harry do this. He would not let Charles know what hotels he stay at when he leaves Meghan and the children to travel and the scheduled flights. No way would harry give them this info
If he shared a fake schedule, that would work. Everyone here knows that the BRF will leak Harry’s itinerary. Leaking the fakes would show everyone else that the BRF absolutely cannot be trusted.
Yes, that sounds like a good idea. Sure Pa, here’s my schedule you can leak to the rats 😏
If this is true, I hope all Harry shares are the dates and nothing else. No location or type of event.
Even sharing the dates could be problematic, because the rota could stake out the local airports from which Harry might be traveling. And they would.
Oh, for heaven’s sake! If Person A doesn’t want Person B to do something newsworthy on the same day that they have something going on, then Person A needs to share their schedule with Person B, not the other way around!!!
I could see him sharing times when he is busy and can’t meet with Charles if they are planning to meet, but not details of why and where. If they were willing to work a both-ways deal it might be different, such as not scheduling your coronation on Archie’s BD. Why should Harry respect Camilla’s BD when KC showed no respect for Archie’s?
That was such a fucked up ultimatum from Chuck – show me how much you love me by attending the hat party I scheduled on your son’s birthday.
Chuck really is a mind fuck.
Why would Harry even agree to do that? The minute the Sussexes announce they’re doing anything, a flurry of royal events are scheduled. Remember when the original With Love Meghan premiere was scheduled, Kate made an appearance that day and William was supposed to do something but cancelled it. It’s a very obvious pattern. Also, why should they know his schedule if it could compromise his security? Lets hope he added the caveat that this not involve the British press.
Exactly. Let us know your schedule so we can release dumb nature videos on the same day.
IF this is true then I’m gobsmacked by Harry’s utter stupidity.
Yes, I agree if true. But I think these are the rats creating a story to fulfill their wet dreams.
Who says it is true? This is the 3rd or 4th version of this meeting that took place. Harry will overshadow the RF regardless if he shares his schedule.
How…….quaint. I’ve noticed that derangers & assorted other crown-shaggers in general are know to swallow and regurgitate every piece of shite from the shitmedia.
One quintessential, re-vomitted tell is the narrative that H is stupid
The stupidity is from the people who believe it. It’s so obviously false.
Exactly.
Harry’s going to share secrets with the one organization that, for his whole life, has leaked information about him to the tabloids? It’s the end of July, not April Fool’s Day.
Exactly. This is just the press reminding the stale and pale leftovers that even an Instagram post by Meghan is more interesting and newsworthy than anything they are doing.
This is probably an unpopular opinion here, but I have a better idea than making peace with the royals. I think Harry and Meghan should decouple themselves from the British monarchy entirely. Cede the titles. Go rogue. Then they can do what they want when they want. Instead of just doing charity which limits their impact, they can do real public service which often involves being political. They have the resources now to be truly independent of this stale, irrelevant institution. Harry can have a relationship if he wants with his family without their control or the constant sniping by the British media. They can find real freedom, to paraphrase Omid Scobie, only by resigning from royalty. And I don’t understand why parents would even want their two American children to have British royal titles. I’m sure most people here think this is a dumbass idea. I think it’s the only way forward for two people who have fought so hard for their independence. Find your freedom, guys. You’re almost there!
I imagine they want their two children to have the option of the titles if they wish to and to not just make the choice for them, perhaps. You have to consider that the “Prince” title has been always part of Harry’s identity. I don’t think it is something anybody else can understand. There is also the factor that they want their biracial children to not be the only ones giving up things. Why shouldn’t Archie and Lili, the grandchildren of a king be given the titles they are due same as any of the (white) others?
Parents make long term decisions for their minor children all the time. And “we’re keeping these titles for our biracial children to own the Windsors” is giving the titles an importance they don’t really have. That’s where I come from on this issue or any issue in involving the royals. It’s all meaningless bs anyway. Why not just cut the cord and make a clean break rather than continue this endless battle?
And Harry now has the opportunity to embrace a new identity as a free man.
Harry believes in the institution, he just can’t live with it.
Losing the titles isn’t going to magically “cut the cord”. The BM would still be on the attack and comparing all of them with the others and they would still be related. That’s what the tabloids want people to think because they want Meghan and the children stripped of anything and everything.
Constant deranged attacks on nonroyal private citizens living in the US would come with significant risks for the tabloids. And they would have to acknowledge that Harry is never going to return to royal duties. Harassing them would make them look like the ex spouse who can’t accept the divorce is final.
@Sunnyside Up: that’s what causes a lot of cognitive dissonance for him.
Brassy Rebel this isn’t about “keeping these titles for our biracial children to own the Windsors” has never been their approach or reasoning. As parents of biracial children they are refusing to be the ones othering their children on behalf of the people who want to racially discriminate against them. Taking something away from them what is rightfully theirs is the equivalent of parents of color telling their children that they don’t belong in a given space because of their race or that they haven’t earned a specific accolade because of their race. It isn’t for Harry or Meghan to make that decision for their children, especially since the reason all of this has happened is in great part because of them being partially black. So they will let their children know all of the facts and make the decisions for themselves when they are old enough to do so.
H&M would still be in the public eye doing their work and charity. That, with the link to the royals by blood would be sufficient for the tabloids. The only consequences would be if H&M kept bringing lawsuits.
This gets rehashed on a regular basis here.
Harry’s family among the royals was more than just his father and brother.
And frankly there’s no reason they should have to do this.
As far as the titles giving notoriety, that’s naive. This guy’s mother was Princess Diana, he was on mugs sold at Spencer’s and mentioned on 90’s talk shows as a pop culture reference before he ever reached adolescence. People need to give up this narrative that the titles are why he’s famous.
The fact is he can do what he wants when he wants now, with the titles, as much as he’d be able to without them. There’s no actual legal barrier in using them the way they do, or anything, except that some people don’t like it and want to throw tantrums. You can be assured if there were, somebody would have found it by now.
And as an American citizen – personally if I married someone with a title and my kids were entitled to it I’d keep it. Why should I discard it because someone else wants to be abusive about it? It’s a ridiculous discussion.
At the risk of prolonging this “ridiculous discussion”, I strongly disagree with several points made by Nerd and Crystal. First of all, to say anyone is entitled to titles is to agree to the basic premise of royalty that some people are better, more important, and, frankly, more equal than others. Interesting that you actually use the term “othering” to describe what H&M would be doing to their kids by rejecting titles. Are we all being othered because we lack titles? Of course not! But this is royalty’s secret weapon in making people feel special with titles. As for the idea that Harry can do as he pleases, he cannot. And Meghan certainly cannot.
Meghan used to be politically active and engaged before her marriage. I really doubt she lost all interest in politics upon meeting Harry. If anything, she has more motivation now to be active because she has two “hostages to fortune”. It’s ironic that someone decided that royals can’t be half in and half out because that’s where the Sussexes kinda ended up. They still have to observe the limitations (because of those damn, meaningless titles) but share in few of the benefits like security, including the security of knowing you belong to this group and your children will be treated as equals by their grandfather. Royalty does not benefit anyone except a select few who please and never dare to not conform. The world would be better off without monarchy and aristocratic privilege of any kind. If H&M just walked away, they and their children would lose nothing of real value and gain the only thing that matters—true freedom and self determination.
You are associating some strange ideological need of yours for them to reject the inherent inequality of them having titles with them recognizing that if their family members and cousins are entitled to their titles then these children are too, and that approach makes no sense. Nobody deserves titles but if a bunch of people are going to have them based on nonsense, then to exclude this family and their kids on the basis that some people arbitrarily hate them because of racism etc and don’t want them to be royals, yeah, that’s not a good argument either. And by the way the constant conversation about how they need to give them up is half of what ends up paradoxically emphasizing the titles in a weird quasi Streisand effect. It’s like that old back and forth between a couple: “marriage is just a piece of paper”, “ok, but if it’s just that then why do we need it?” ad nauseum.
They’re keeping the titles and them rejecting them because of the tabloids would only make the tabloids go on another course about how ungrateful they are for rejecting the Queen’s gift of the Sussex title. People need to think five minutes ahead about this, lol.
If you don’t like royalty then fine. Stop projecting on this family you don’t know.
Also, pardon me, but I know you’re not a new commenter so I don’t really know why you are saying things that are blatantly false such as Meghan being politically active before marriage so that it’s likely she wants to do politics now. She had opinions and volunteered but that is not being politically active. That’s another weird invention of the tabloids.
Brassy Rebel neither of us have said that them being “entitled” to their titles means that being royal makes them or any other royal better than anyone else. You have drawn that conclusion on your own by disregarding the context of what we said. Being entitled to something, even royal titles, doesn’t mean that we place royalty above others. In the use of the word entitled, it is a simple reference to their birthright and how no one has the right to disregard their rights, especially because of their race. So yes they are entitled to their titles, not because they or royalty is superior to any one else, but because they were born into that family and so they are “entitled” to the same rights and things as everyone else and there should never be any exclusion of them, especially due to their race. And as their parents, they are rightfully not going to exclude their children on behalf of the bigots, racists and bullies who themselves believe they aren’t worthy. And as an American, I can say that having views and a voice regarding politics doesn’t mean that you’re interested in a political career or path, it means you’re an involved citizen exercising your fundamental rights as an American, which is exactly what Meghan has always done. She herself has spoken out about not having any interest in going into politics, so I don’t know why you would suggest otherwise?
They can stop with the constant whining about schedule conflicts due to the Sussexes because it isn’t the Sussexes who write these UK headline articles about everything the Sussexes do or don’t do. It doesn’t have to be inevitable that the UK media write about the Sussexes and it definitely isn’t under the Sussexes control what the UK media writes about them because if it were it would be fair, accurate and ethical. I don’t believe this is true because giving their schedule away in advance to the palaces is giving away their location to the media to stalk them more than they already do. Besides it isn’t the Sussexes who need to consider others schedules because Archie’s birthday wasn’t unknown or a surprise when Charles scheduled I’m an ass hat day on Archie’s birthday. The IG ten year celebration in the UK wasn’t unknown when all of the other royals conveniently had scheduling conflicts to not show up for Harry and IG’s huge accomplishment. The Spencer’s were free to show support and not have a scheduling conflict on that day.
If this is true, this is a terrible decision by Harry and his team. His schedule will be leaked to the press by the Palace. I hope this is not true and that this is the press making a false narrative so that when the next clash happens they will bash him for going back on his promise. It’s interesting that Meghan doesn’t seem to be part of this deal. This could mean that this story is not true. I can’t see her agreeing to it anyway as she will be giving up some control of her life. The real problem here is the press and their lack of discipline and their desperation to know what’s going on in Harry’s life. I’m more inclined to believe that this story is not true.
I agree. It’s such an odd story. What would this achieve? Harry and Meghan always overshadow the RF. It makes no sense . If they are mad that the Halo trip overshadowed Camilla’s B day then why didn’t Meredith share this trip with BP since it happened after the meeting?
Say for a minute this is legit, what would it achieve? The BRF would know in advance that there’s a clash? And? Harry books his trips and no-one is suggesting that he’s going to start scheduling around vital royal events like Camilla’s birthday.
The Rottweiler’s birthday is not a vital royal event. Only in Chuck’s mind is it vital.
Did the Wales’s wish her happy birthday? I don’t recall. Anyone else celebrate it?
I would think that at 78 Camila would rather forget that it is her birthday, I gave up birthdays many years ago.
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This would be an enormous mistake.
Also, Meghan hasn’t posted on her personal IG for 3 weeks. I hope she isn’t caving on that, too.
Maybe she has posted because she is on holiday with the family.. I’m still thinking she was in Botswana with Harry and possibly the children.
Harry and Meghan always go quiet in the summer time so it’s not shocking that she hasn’t posted for a few weeks. Even though she hasn’t posted directly on her instagram she has wished a few of her friends a Happy Birthday and has replied to a few comments.
She’s probably just taking a break because she’s on vacation. Not any different than any other person that uses social media and wants to be present while they’re spending time with their families. The business Instagram has been posting, so she doesn’t have to share on her personal one.
I think she’s on vacation as well and I think we may get a photodump or two when she comes back. When they went to Disneyland nothing was posted until they were gone.
This is a random analogy lol but Lin Manuel Miranda used to go off social media every weekend, and when he was in London for Mary Poppins Returns he would travel a lot around Europe during weekends and off times – and he would never post on social media until after he returned. This was the height of Hamilton and i think he had some run-ins with um, enthusiastic, fans, so he stopped posting locations and such until after they were home. So he would show that they ate at X cafe in Madrid, but three days after they were there.
I assume many celebs take similar approaches, including Meghan.
@Becks1 I was thinking the same thing. We will probably get a nice curated reel with a fun accompanying song with a bunch of photos from what they’ve been doing on their summer vacation after they’re comfortably back home.
And I can imagine that security and potential interactions probably play into it. It’s one thing to be like, “is that Meghan and Harry?”, at a random nature reserve, or beach it’s another thing to know that they’re going to be there and the start stalking them. It’s just a good common sense for everyone not even just celebs.
LMM also makes sure his kids faces aren’t in his social media either.
I hope Harry is not going to share his movements and engagements with the left behind Windsors. It will take away his and his family moving around under the radar.
If Harry or his team read this DM artifice this should be a warning. BP and KP are up to their old tricks, briefing and leaking stories. They are leaking like a sieve.
And as Jais said above Willi and Kate do not respect Charles and Camilla’s diary. Why should Harry who has nothing to do with the left behinds diaries and royal engagements?
Oh, actually the DM is finally acknowledging the influence and relevance Harry and Meghan still has for the BM and the left behind Windsors.
Harry told us he found some harsh truths during his case for security and told us explicitly that the palace told other countries to deny him security so I highly doubt he would give them his schedule. Never mind the leaking to the daily fail, it would be too much of a security risk. They would stalk him to no end.
This right here.
Harry isn’t going to hand the left-behinds and the rota this edge.
H&M’s events overshadow the royals because they are the ones every single publication in the UK vastly prefers to write about. Harry sharing his schedule would only supercharge that dynamic. I really hope this isn’t real. Truly a bad idea.
Aha! So the “peace summit” was BP setting up a meeting with Harry’s team to try and negotiate access to Harry’s calendar. I wonder what BP is offering in exchange
I hope it’s not true, but if it is it’s a very stupid move. I know people here don’t think he’d ever do anything like that but I think people need to understand Harry is set on having a relationship with his father, and that will not happen without Harry giving up something. It’s hard to understand, given what charles did (and continues to do) to Meghan and their children but it’s clear he still does. I even see it going further, but people don’t want to talk about that.
Of course this could just be a lie, I know that. But that doesn’t change that the reason these lies around him and charles get written is because Harry himself said he wants to fix things, and of course that meeting. They need to fill space and when there is a pinch of truth it’s easier for people to believe. “Well they did have a meeting, and Harry did say he wants a relationship, so this sounds true.”
I could see this being true as well for the very reason you stated. He wants a relationship with his father regardless of what Charles has done in the past. Harry has only 1 parent left and to know he has cancer puts things in a different light for him. I have a relative that experienced a difficult relationship with his father. They both said and did things they shouldn’t have but my uncle was always there when his father needed him. When asked why given all that happened, he said it is what a son is suppose to do.
It is true that Harry said that he wants a relationship with his father, but he has also been gone from the UK for more than five years without funding and paid for security because his father asked for things he wasn’t willing to give him, like dropping his court cases and working with the UK media. Yes, he wants a relationship with his father but he still has boundaries of what he won’t do, we can’t forget that fact.
“I think people need to understand Harry is set on having a relationship with his father”
Well, the fact is that Harry has said before he’s fine with having a relationship with him, if it’s healthy and he’s not getting sold out.
Harry knows the details of how his own family is involved in leaking information about him and working to his disadvantage, regarding the security case and other issues, and as these are critical details of security he knows far more than we ever will be privy to as the public. On a personal level he may feel sentimental but everything that he did in order to extricate his family in the first place is proof that he will not let sentimentality judge whether he is factually safe or not.
Whether he loves and cherishes his father or not is up to him, but the implication that he would endanger himself to do so doesn’t make sense. If he wanted a relationship with Charles as badly as you say and in the way you describe, he would never have embarked on these legal cases in the first place.
If he agreed to share his schedule in any way I can see it being nothing more than promotional announcements so it doesn’t “take thunder” but given that those goalposts are moved around in the media all the time, and Harry and Meghan have rightly ignored them, I don’t see why they would change tactic now. I think the meeting was about Invictus and that’s it.
The whole article is probably just another projected wish fulfillment by the tabloids who have nothing to write about that really generates clicks, especially in summer.
Where is Charles peace offering
Its so disappointing to wake up each morning and realize that yes, the world is full of easily clowned, gullible people. And the british shitmedia will continue to exist for hundreds of years to come by just continuing to do what they do best: serve up lies and fantasies for their legion of gullible, naive consumers.
Thank you. I’m rolling my eyes in exasperation at all the “if true…” and “I hope it’s not true…” comments, even from self-identified fans. This is what the tabloids do: they make things up. Right now H+M are in silent mode and enjoying down time with their children and friends and the UK media and their US branches are doing everything they can to avoid reporting on what William and Kate are (and have been) doing since the summer holidays began. They continue to monetise H+M even while dehumanising them every which way. Why give such reports the benefit of the doubt? It’s giving a repeat of the hysterics that people got into over the very recent lying reports about the Netflix contract and WME.
Pretty good fantasizing though, don’t you think? Harry not in the public eye, Meghan not posting on IG for a minute, instantly means Harry (note, they just said Harry, not Meghan) is in Botswana beyond cell coverage.
Agree Kingston. It’s sad.
Yup.
Eh, I honestly think that they are going to share because they want the RF to actually do what Harry wanted/needed all along to protect them. This may to Harry and Meghan not be a big thing. I can see them giving them 24 hours notice or something like 3 days. Charles wants them big in some capacity so think that they are going to work towards that.
Also As Ever has been posting non stop and I doubt that Meghan just ceded control over those posts. I think she’s focusing on her brand, not her personal IG right now.
The only way I can see Harry agreeing to this is if they get their security back. And throw in Frogmore Cottage too.
Charles actually had his people try to contact other countries so as NOT to provide security for his son. For his son. So no, I don’t see Charles saying, ah, never mind, my bad, have your security.
It’s hard for me to see any of that happening.
I wonder how many articles the bm will be able to write about this fairytale?
I could see Harry sharing “big” events like the trip to Angola, a joint trip somewhere with Meghan to a country they are invited to, that sort of thing. But I don’t think he and Meghan are going to share random things like gala fundraisers they are just guests at, panel discussions, being invited to visit random LA area charities etc. And I highly doubt Meghan will be sharing As Ever’s schedule at all. That has nothing to do with the royal family, it’s her own business and if her merchandise selling out in an hour is overshadowing the royal family’s work, that’s a British tabloid problem.
I know some people are all “don’t believe everything you read” but Harry’s book Spare revealed a lot of the British tabloid leaks were often correct (I’m not talking about stupid theories like Meghan wants to be a politician or that the Sussexes want to move back to the UK). They don’t always get the right messaging–see “Meghan made Kate cry”. But overall the broad outline of that story was correct–Meghan and Kate had a disagreement that was wedding related and it left someone in tears. So I tend to believe things are true and I could see Harry putting aside all his disagreements for a rapprochement with his father before he passes.
The implications of Kate letting a fake story in the media was despicable. It really can’t be generalized by the media because the lie of causing keen to cry had extreme ramifications for meghan.
Well, @Villerose, if you “….tend to believe things are true and I could see Harry putting aside all his disagreements for a rapprochement with his father before he passes,” then Imma go ahead and believe that you didnt read Spare; or if you did, your comprehension skills might have been compromised.
The 50-50 offer from H&M was a one-time offer which I am sure would have given the courtiers and Rats their current wet dream wish for prior knowledge of H&M’s movements. I am sure the Sussexes, their friends and true well-wishers continue to give thanks everyday that the offer was refused.
Lets take the Angola trip which the Rats said “overshadowed” the rottweiler’s birthday: you do know, right, that H deliberately ensured that the “dreadful mob of dweebs and crones and cut-rate criminals and clinically diagnosable sadists along Fleet Street,” (thats how he describes them in Spare) received NO INVITATION FOR COVERAGE from Halo Trust. And this isnt the first time he has denied them entry to his events.
Ipso facto, theres no way on gods green earth that H is gonna be so free with info about his movements that leaky palace critters could inform his sworn enemies.
Theres a reason he painstakingly spelled out in Spare, the fact that his father and brother and their private secretaries were the only ones who knew that he had offered back the Sussex title, telling them they could go ahead and take it if they wished. (They didnt.)
And that reason is, he wanted to be very clear, that the leaking starts from the head. H knows he cannot trust his father with any info that he might wish to remain private. And THAT, my dear, is where the flipped narrative comes from that chucly and bully “cant trust H.”
Seriously, those palace critters and their enablers in the shitmedia are NOT hard to read.
My reading comprehension skills are just fine. Charles is going to die soon, that much is obvious. And the death of a loved one makes you reevaluate a lot of things. I could see Harry conceding a few things for the sake of his father. Maybe you missed the fact in Spare that Harry really cares about his father, despite all of Charles’s failings as a parent. It’s very clear Harry and William were not close growing up, that was a myth portrayed by the media. I don’t think Harry loses sleep at night over the state of his relationship with William. But Harry has always wanted to maintain a relationship with his dad, for better or for worse. Harry has even stated himself in public he’d like to reconcile with his family. When I hear “family” I mostly hear “my father.”
As I said before, I doubt Harry would share the actual day to day stuff of his schedule, just the big stuff. And I doubt his kids will be present at any of these events. That’s his biggest priority. He will never share anything that could jeopardize them.
VilleRose, unfortunately, the leaks would endanger Harry. He’s able to move about without notice until he actually gets to where he wants to be. He leaves the same way. If anyone in the brf knew his schedule, it would be printed by the bm and his safety would be a very real issue.
Harry probably had to share some schedule info to be able to have that secret peace summit. That was probably it and they are stretching the info to fill the empty media space caused by the Waleses agenda, which is filled, of course, with blank space and obviously, empty of work engagements.
No, he didn’t share his schedule for that meeting, his PR people arranged that meeting so they checked THEIR schedules. 🤨. You don’t hand over your whole calendar with someone when trying to schedule a meeting, particularly with people outside your business/company/whatever.
I don’t know why we are taking Charlotte Griffith seriously. Harry giving his schedule is a security risk because he knows his family leaks to the rota non stop.
At most he might provide his schedule when he is in the UK for Invictus. But he’s not going to reveal his schedule otherwise.
A generous offer but one, if carried through, the royal machinery will muck up in short order.
Right, so we’re supposed to believe this media wet dream that Harry would give his schedule to the very person/office who has repeatedly requested that foreign governments withhold adequate security for the visiting Sussexes?
The tabloid readers must be dumb as hell.
That was the one point that I thought made the whole thing obviously made up–they tried to get other governments not to provide security. To the son of the monarch!!!! To Harry, Diana’s son!!
It’s odd to me that this “overshadowing” stuff is still being discussed by the RM. Even if Harry overshadowed Cams birthday or whatever, what difference should that make to anybody reading this article? Are we supposed to….feel bad for the Queen of England? I don’t get it.
No one in the general public anywhere is that interested in Camilla’s birthday. Harry being in Angola had nothing to do with her being overshadowed. A passing rain cloud could do that. If there is any truth to this, hopefully it pertains to Invictus games and security.
And what are they going to do for Harry? Why should he do anything for them until they do something for him and his family? They are the ones who need to make peace offerings, not Harry.
‘Sharing’ implies a two-way interchange–the Sussexes ‘share’ their schedule with the king who then shares his with them, the Sussexes ‘share’ their schedule with the Wales, etc. That’s if the true reason behind this ‘sharing’ were to not step on the monarch’s news cycle. 🙄 The real reason is more nefarious, I suspect, and no way in hell should the Sussexes share their calendar. I think they’re too smart for that & this is just more wishful thinking on the part of the press.
Plus, how, exactly, would they know Harry went to Botswana & ‘off the grid’???? Are they tracking his flights? His phone??????
I sincerely hope this isn’t true. Harry, you don’t work for the royal family anymore. You don’t work for the British public. You don’t owe them a single detail of your schedule and safety.
^This, right here, is the root of the problem: so-called supporters callously and disrespectfully negating H’s agency and bulldozing their way into believing they know more than he does, about whats best for him and his family………the same man who has kept his wife and kids safe from being murdered by these very same Machiavellians.
…what? I’m not bulldozing my way into anything. What do you suggest I can respectfully comment then? I’m supposed to be hopeful that the royal family wants to peek at his work diary while offering him no public support, and publicly ridiculing his wife?
The point Ive been making all over this thread is that the entire premise of this latest dark fantasy by the notorious uk shitmedia, is a lie.
Therefore no genuine supporter of H&M or even a mere well-intentioned onlooker to this 9-year, unrelenting attack by “powerful forces” (as H described what he and his wife hv been going thru) in the uk against H&M, would believe even one iota of this obvious barefaced lie.
I call bullshit on this story. I swear, since Harry and Meghan left that salty island, the papers have stopped making money. Meghan was their cash cow. Now, they’ll print anything about H&M (made up stories) to make money. There is no way that Harry will share his schedule with Charles and William. I refuse to believe such bs story. These people are grasping at ANYTHING just to try to keep the clicks going. This will only happen in their dreams. Nonsense!!!
Do not believe this is true. The media is setting it up so if there is another perceived “clash” in schedule, they want to be able to claim Harry went back on his word.
It is cool pictures of Diana bumped Camilla.
As someone already wrote further up, “media wet dream” is the first thing that comes to mind. Harry stated long ago that he will have no truck with certain publications, so this is to my mind a BP leak. I can see Harry’s people discussing the Invictus schedule with the palace as a matter of courtesy. THEY can tell HIM when they might deign to make an appearance to support their own vets and perhaps Harry might graciously give them the whole stage that. It seems that the Games conflict with Camilla’s birthday. Invictus could wish her a happy birthday, and she in turn, would wish them good luck, if she were gracious. Were they planning to declare a national holiday or what? How the Angola trip played out should tell everyone a thing or two.
I am ONE MILLION percent certain that Harry doesn’t give two sh!ts about Camilla’s birthday. This article must come from her and Charles because they are the only people who would mention her birthday as being a consideration for anyone.
These are the most childish, nonsensical people to ever walk the face of this earth. Camilla has done nothing whatsoever throughout her entire life to deserve any public celebration of her dumba$$ birthday. All she’s ever been is a sleazy mistress who married up when the wife mysteriously died in a tunnel. And since every day is a holiday/work day for the self-aggrandizing do-nothings, I don’t see how having Harry’s schedule will help anyone but those who would like nothing more than to see another tragic accident in a tunnel.
This is exhausting. I hope this isn’t true. I understand that it’s his Dad, but Harry has been repeatedly shown that these people, family or not, do not care about him, his family, or their well-being. After everything the RF has done to him, unleashed the tabloid media on him in the UK and the US, they are still trying valiantly (with some success) to tarnish their every endeavor. What can he hope to gain? The Royal system is rotten, and he’s better out of it. I hope he sees that.
Agree that Harry sharing his schedule is a terrible idea. All it does is allows a) for that schedule to be leaked and I can’t help but remember how their Canadian location was leaked as security was stripped. B) what if there’s a clash, are they going to ask Harry to move something? C) it allows KP to plan work events for those two to either coincide or be immediately before or after for maximum coverage with even less effort. Also to purposefully pick similar events / programming
I’m really hoping this is more fanfic and it’s not Harry letting down his guard with his dad’s vipers.
The only fairly certain thing is that Charles and Harry will have a face to face meeting in London before the summer ends.
I doubt there will be personal meetings between Charles and harry anytime soon.
Nope. This sounds more like a the Palace wishlist. Exposing himself this way, leaving himself or his family vulnerable in this way does not sound like something Prince Harry would do, especially after waging a full on war to get security when he travels in the UK.
Could this article be a rr request to KCIII for what they want from the negotiations? Hope PH has way better sense than to entertain it. This request should be a clear nonstarter. Duchess M and family should stay away from the event. She should engage by video.
That’s just another lie by the silly British tabloids. Or their wishful thinking. lol Harry’s schedule has nothing to do with these royals, and if they can’t hold the interest of their own press on their little island, they have just themselves to blame.