One thing I believe about Prince Harry is that he has always been obsessed with the “half-in solution” which he and Meghan proposed in 2020. The half-in solution would have given the Windsors broad control over the Sussexes’ schedules, but would have allowed the Sussexes to simply move to another country and make money. The half-in solution would have also allowed the Sussexes to maintain a royal residence (Frogmore Cottage) in the UK and retain some level of police protection, as well the retention of all of Harry and Meghan’s patronages. It was the “we can have it all while still giving the Windsors some semblance of control over us” solution. After the half-in solution was rejected outright, Harry spent years trying to create a version of it from scratch. In the past year, he’s seemingly been coordinating his messages and his schedule with his father, and he’s currently fighting for police protection now that he’s moved his family back to Britain. Well, Fox News’ commentators are now saying that the palace doesn’t simply want control over Harry, they want control over Meghan’s movements and schedule as well.
Meghan Markle is returning to Britain with more independence than she had as a working royal, an arrangement experts say could test Buckingham Palace’s boundaries. Markle, 45, and Prince Harry, 41, recently relocated to the United Kingdom with their children Prince Archie, 7, and Princess Lilibet, 5, for an extended stay though they will remain private, non-working members of the royal family.
While the couple is expected to establish a private residence outside London and keep their home in Montecito, California, royal observers told Fox News Digital that Markle’s ability to pursue her own media, business and public-facing projects from Britain could create new tension with the institution she once represented.
“The nightmare for the Palace is that they can’t be controlled,” royal commentator Richard Fitzwilliams told Fox News Digital. “Diary clashes will probably mean royal engagements are overshadowed by what the Sussexes choose to do and what they are, or are not, asked to by the Palace.”
Kinsey Schofield, host of YouTube’s “Kinsey Schofield Unfiltered,” said that Buckingham Palace will have “very little control” over the Duke and Duchess of Sussex’s public and commercial activities because they no longer represent Harry’s father King Charles as working royals.
“They are private citizens and no longer working on behalf of the King, so Buckingham Palace isn’t approving Meghan’s interviews, appearances, Instagram posts or commercial projects,” Schofield said. “But Harry is still the King’s son and Meghan is still the Duchess of Sussex, so there is an inevitable association with the monarchy. That’s the complicated part. They can operate independently while still benefiting from an enormous amount of public interest that exists because of Harry’s DNA.”
However, Schofield pointed out that Buckingham Palace retains one important source of influence.
“The palace can’t control what they do, but it can control access to the institution. It can decide how much proximity they have to working royals, royal residences, and official events,” she said. “That is where the palace still has considerable leverage.”
“Meghan may be returning without palace restrictions, but she is also returning without palace protection,” she added. “You don’t get one without losing the other.”
Schofield told Fox News Digital that a competing announcement would not necessarily violate a formal Palace rule, but she noted there are longstanding expectations around the timing of public engagements.
“If Meghan were repeatedly scheduling appearances or announcements to coincide with major royal engagements, people would notice,” she said. “She might not be breaking a written rule, but there are conventions and courtesies around these things. If you consistently attempt to overshadow the working Royal Family, eventually the pattern becomes the story.”
Yeah, obvious story is obvious, I get that. The palace has wanted control over Harry and Meghan this whole time. Nearly seven years of the palace throwing everything at the Sussexes in an attempt to control them and silence them and claim ownership of their lives. And now the Sussexes have moved back to the UK and it’s still not “enough.” The Windsors still want MORE. The problem is that I can totally see Harry giving up even more control over his schedule – as I said, he’s clearly been coordinating with Buckingham Palace for the past year, and I expect that to continue. Charles dangled the carrot in front of him and Harry jumped. But what worries me is that Meghan will be forced to give up her power as well – the power to post on social media, the power to disrupt the Windsors by merely going outside, the power to speak whenever and however she wants. There is no “half-in solution.” There never was. Either the Windsors eat you alive and own every part of you or you’re out completely.
Photos courtesy of Meghan’s Instagram and As Ever’s Instagram.
“Palace protection”??? We all know how that worked out for Meghan the last time! And I’m really tired of these overshadow-shenanigans! You declared the Sussexes irrelevant a long time ago, Mr. Fitzwilliams. So why do you report every breathe they take? You don’t have to publish every sold out jar of jam! You don’t have to comment on every Insta post. You simply could shuttle up???!
The part about “palace protection” really jumped out. Meghan had so much “palace protection” that she was contemplating unalivng herself. Who can quarrel with such first class protection? What she had was control and isolation from friends and family. That’s not protection. It’s abuse. And these monarchists absolutely refuse to acknowledge that.
That phrase got me, too. More like Palace Destruction. Those criminal jerks.
“palace protection” = muzzle her & savagely portray a misogynist & racist narrative of her.
The Firm, gutter press & trolls (the anti-Meghan Industrial Complex) have been doing that for a decade, & still Meghan rises! Social media & the Sussex Squad has thoroughly exposed their malignant shenanigans to the world. Britain’s thin veneer of respectability is now in tatters. Their arrogance & colonial legacy is raising its ugly head. And their palpable hostility towards Meghan demonstrates the underbelly of Britain’s deep seated misogynoir (racism & misogyny).
Well said
They claim that the alternatives are Windsor control or you are out completely. Harry and Meghan have been out completely for the last 6 years and the Windsors never relinquished control.
There is only one way if you are royal; complete control by the Windsors.
It’s the “overshadowing” bit that gets me the most.
That is an entirely manufactured problem that didn’t/doesn’t have to be.
It’s only “overshadowing” if the media breathlessly report on every little Meghan does.
The media doesn’t have to do that – yes, she’s famous, so there is public interest, but it’s hardly like they report on every single Instagram post every famous British celebrity makes.
It is the media who decide that every Instagram post Meghan makes needs days of think pieces and scathing criticisms, it’s the media who chooses to devote more time and inches to Meghan that W&K, etc.
And this is also the BRF’s fault.
Because if they hadn’t allowed the incredibly racist RR to create such a frenzy around Meghan in the first place, way back when, if the BRF had simply put a stop to it when the RR’s reporting transformed from reasonable public interest to full-on racist scapegoating frothing, then this wouldn’t have happened, and they wouldn’t be the heat score they are. (Would they still garner more interest than W&K? Given their charisma and work ethics, yes, I think so, but I don’t think it would be this huge scale of pitting them against each other, and just diatribe after diatribe written about M’s every move).
But the BRF is also incredibly racist, plus they thought all this scapegoating distracted from the direct line’s deficiencies, so they allowed the media to continue lambasting M, criticizing M, writing a million pieces about M every time she draws a breath out of her home.
And now their chickens have come home to roost and the public is more fascinated with the Megan hate-pieces than anything the left behinds do, so yeah…she absolutely will overshadow them at some point.
The BRF made it this way, they can’t complain about it now.
she hasn’t been seen in weeks! and they are already screaming and complaining about her. this is unfortunately entirely predictable that the second they came back without a big explanation or very clear rules, the whole british press (and presumably will/kate/camilla) would start to scream about how meghan is a bad actor and ruining everything.
this is why I found the stories about her acting so absurd. like she would go on a show that involves murder and crime and things – the palace would spend years yelling through the press about how she is a horrible example (ignoring all their real life bad examples etc). they would fight to control everything about it and if they couldn’t, it would be wall to wall complaints.
I think the late Queen had good reasons for imposing the all-or-nothing paradigm: 1. She knew William was a vengeful loose cannon and she wanted Harry & Meghan clear of the blast radius of his regular meltdowns; 2. She knew Charles was too feeble and chickensh*t to do anything about William; 3. She really didn’t think it was compatible to be commercially minded and entrepreneurial and a representative of the monarchy all at the same time; 4. She thought that once Harry was stateside, William would step up and improve his work rate or just general attitude; 5. She was past the age of fighting the good fight and really felt it was up to other people to sort out this mess but helped Harry and Meghan where and when she could, because she bore them no ill will personally and was horrified by the smear campaign against a blameless person on grounds of racism / sexism / classism. Also — 6. She had witnessed her sister’s life as the spare, and knew the role was an empty, draining one, like a bucket without a bottom. Better to cut the cord when the new generation was born. It’s a job with a shelf life. ….so, yeah, I think her logic was sound in rejecting the half-in / half-out. …and I think her logic stands, like most of her accumulated wisdom and decency. …Harry is probably hoping not to cut the cord, which is fine, for now, his kids will have lovely memories of England that are not filtered through a tabloid lens. Thankfully. They’re still young enough for the magic to take hold. Later, it will be too late. I think he’s planting a flag for them. And — as ever — his presence is enough to wrong foot William. Who sucks. William really does belong in a pantheon of cautionary tales about the male ego and the neurotic obsession with policing women — like, he could plausibly join the Taliban, with a few small adjustments. And he could take Jason with him.
Total nonsense
You’re so polite 😊
Yeah, that is just 🐂💩. Zara and Peter Phillips seem to manage to be both in and out. So are Bea and Eug. So did that racist Princess Michael, publishing books USING her title on the cover, her husband traded on British gov secrets to the Russians, I could go on…and they all get invited to the royal “events” (trooping, Christmas, etc) or are at times asked to “represent” the crown at events. Heck, even ANNE makes money off the horse crap going on on her estate.
So yeah, completely different rules for H&M JUST because of their charisma, popularity, and star power.
You give Elizabeth far too much credit. There were plenty of things she could have done before Sussexit that she did not do, preferring to just bury her head in the sand and let the men in gray take care of it for better or worse. The little mercies she gave, like around the Jubilee, were for her image.
I always got the impression she wasn’t terrible bright. A good hostess, yes. It always made me chuckle on The Crown when she gave a long intellectual monologues when IRL I imagine she would just grunt out monosyllabic agreements while her husband and the staffers ran amok around her.
I think things could have been somewhat different if QE2 had been younger and healthier but Charles and W are too jealous (and W too incandescent) for any reasonable compromise. The other members of the family that have commercial interests don’t pull focus like H&M do and they’re willing to play along with the media ecosystem. The level of control they demanded of H&M would not have allowed them to do anything–which, of course was the goal. They wanted to break Meghan and get Harry back (alone). Theyre still working on that. The above article continues to be fixated on Meghan alone; what she’s doing, what brand-new rule she’s breaking, what imaginary scenario might happen so they can be incandescent with rage.
Yeah, that one source noted ‘well, there’s no actual rule…’ but they’ll make one up anyway! Just for Meghan! They’re truly horrible people!
I think you give QEII wayyyyy too much credit. Like, an insane amount of credit. There was nothing “sound” about her logic not to allow the half-in half our. H&M were proposing something similar to what Zara and Peter do (especially Zara, who literally attends garden parties on behalf of the monarchy) or what the York princesses do. And Princess Michael. And Prince Michael. etc.
If she didnt want Harry to live his life as “the spare” then she should have managed everything very differently from the day of his birth.
the only thing I think is true is that she thought – and everyone thought – that William would step it up, work wise, once harry left. But this wasnt about protecting Harry or anything like that. Or Charles being too weak or whatever. She rejected the half in proposal because she was told to do so. full stop.
The “magic” of royalty??? Are you kidding?
We know all about the nastiness, lying, racism, classism, pedophilia, and other crimes this royal family has committed, including how they have and continue to treat “spares.” (Or were you talking about England? Same problems there.) This poster has clearly drunk the Kool-Aid!
If the Sussex kids want “magic” they can get it at Disneyland near their home in California.
3. She really didn’t think it was compatible to be commercially minded and entrepreneurial and a representative of the monarchy all at the same time;
Then she completely ignored what her Philips grandchildren were doing. Sorry, not buying that point.
Wow. Harry truly seems like he’s blowing up everything by coming back into the fold. He seems to struggle with his identity outside of that ratchet family. He has experienced great freedom and success over the past years individually and within his marriage. And he’s putting all of that at risk because he still seeks their approval and acceptance. I hope Meagan doesn’t give up her autonomy and ultimately her revenue to appease her husband’s bullshit agenda.
You don’t know what Harry’s agenda is, because he hasn’t told the public yet. You can’t assume he has Stockholm Syndrome and wants back into the Royal fold just because he’s in Britain.
@Julie………….returning to live in britain for a time is not, ipso facto, “coming back into the fold.”
For those of us who genuinely support H&M, we tend to listen to what they SAY and look at what they DO and we dont give credence to anything coming from the shitmedia. And by the fact of us listening to what H has said, inter alia: “I want a family, not an institution,” we know this return to britain is NOT about “coming back into the fold.”
So there goes your first premise.
Secondly: of all the members of what you aptly refer to as ‘that rachet family,’ Harry is THE ONLY ONE OF THEM who consistently delivers service that is visible, needs-based and outcome-oriented. We’ve heard from the recipients time and time again that what H has done in creating the Invictus Games, is save their lives…….literally. And these grateful ex- and current military service men and women come from over 25 countries.
H plays no part in that pathetic, embarrassing performative nonsense that the rachet family engages in and calls it service. And we’re all gonna find out (altho those of us who pay attention already know) that at the heart of the weeping and moaning and raging and rending of garments about the return of the Sussexes is the fear by the rachets and their handlers in the institution that H&M, by their very existence in the same space, this time free of the institution’s control, will cause a render in the dirty curtain and ordinary folks will get a glimpse of the filth and nasty shenanigans that go on behind the scenes of this criminal mafia organization.
💥💥💥💥 Cannot wait till the full extent of the BRF’s crimes are revealed 🍿
I think many posters on this site have genuinely supported H&M. And yes, it’s wise to only listen to what they say or what their official spokesperson says. But it doesn’t mean you’re not a “ genuine Sussex supporter “ if you question the wisdom of this move. Unfortunately they haven’t shared a whole lot officially and while they are certainly free to do that, many of us are going to wonder if this was the wisest move. Hopefully it turns out to be as brilliant as many of their other moves. But based on their own words describing their experiences in the past, it’s not “ unsupportive” to wonder if this is not the best idea.
The intentions of Harry and Meghan for trying to do good and be hardworking is not in question. Where some people, including myself, side eye Harry is because he seems to be looking at the monarchy as what it COULD be and not accepting it for what it IS. They don’t like him right now and they HATE his wife and kids. He seems to be ignoring the red flags from his mother and every single sign that the monarchy has intense ill will towards his wife and kids. I notice some Sussex Squad like to insist that because Harry grew up in the institution then he must know how to navigate. There is an element of truth to that but I am now starting to lean toward the side that he can’t see the situation for what it is because he is too close to it.
@SmartyPants ITA with your last sentence— that’s been a problem for years IMO. I can’t fault Harry, it’s human nature, but unfortunately those of us on the outside can see his family for what it actually is a lot more clearly than he can.
It’s a mess. The press is creating both sides of the problem. They are both creating these “rules” and then deciding if they’ve been broken. They put the Sussexes on the front page and then castigate them for upstaging someone else’s event. Sorry, no. You did that. You made the choice of who to cover.
Excellent points. Toxic ecosystem where the tabloids set the rules and then rig the game. I really hope this bizarre return is one year and out.
Exactly! Clean up your gutter press, English leaders, and all the mentioned problems are reduced by 50%! The other 50% will always be there due to the massive egos of William and Charles.
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I saw someone on threads complaining about H&M and they said something like “even the press is sick of them.” The press that writes 50 stories a day about them? that press? Sure jan. they’re sick of the Sussexes.
It’s a game the press and the palaces have been playing the whole time. How often over the past handful of years have the Sussexes made some kind of announcement and there’s immediate pearl clutching over them “stealing the thunder” from the observation of the 186th anniversary of Queen Victoria first using indoor plumbing or some such nonsense.
“the 186th anniversary of Queen Victoria first using indoor plumbing or some such nonsense.”. 😄😂🤪🤣
Excellent points and so true.. no one knows what the Sussex’s are planning or why they are really in Britain beyond the Invictus games and the kids school year (which we don’t even know if it will be a full or half year there at this point). I do believe that Harry and Meghan want a home there and did from the start then the eviction of Frogmore and security denials derailed that at least until now. 90% of what is being pumped out by the media is just their wishful thinking and pure make believe fantasy, there is almost a desperation to know exactly what the Sussex’s are planning. I truly don’t think Harry or Meghan have any plans to ever give up their current freedoms for being palace controlled again I think that is pure tabloid fantasy.
It’s a very SICK fantasy. Neither Harry or Meghan are wild animals that need to be controlled. That these idiots even use the word ‘controlled’ is sickening. That they are willing to say it in the face of the monarchy says a lot. Controlling isn’t a great virtue.
I had to laugh at the notion that Meghan will be returning “without Palace protection” when they never protected her in the first place.
I know Harry seemed emphatic about never being a working royal again but watch this space 🤷♀️; not Meghan, just Harry. It would solve the security issue and allow the palace to indirectly have some control over Meghan. For all his therapy, I believe Harry is too institutionalised. I hope I’m wrong.
Sadly I think you’re right. The fact he returned there after what she went thru before is baffling to me. I’m betting if she’s seen it will still be not in that country.
It can take a lifetime to deconstruct after being in a cult, especially if you grew up in one and especially if growing up in one offered privilege and deference. I hope for his family’s sake that it doesn’t take Harry that long.
Isn’t freaking weird that we are all accepting that Meghan can’t be seen publicly in her husband’s country? That she has to hide? None of this is normal.
@Mads what I had to laugh at was, “If Meghan were repeatedly scheduling appearances or announcements to coincide with major royal engagements”
as if that’s Meghan’s sole priority and she gives a sh!t what the Leftovers were doing. Sure, she’s totally going to run her entire schedule and life around their pathetic busywork/photo ops. These people are delusional.
Kinsey Schofield has been proved to know nothing. She made a grave mistake last month, a mistake that made clear she knows little of what goes on in the palace. Even the rota called her out.
I know I’m late replying to this, but if you see it, what did Kinsey do? Somehow I missed it. I cannot stand her, she’s such a smug witch.
I was heartened to see Meghan post about Gloria Steinem yesterday but I think for the most part she’s going to be silent on IG when she’s in the UK unfortunately.
No she is not. She already posted about her new apple butter and now her sparkling wine. She has not stopped at all.
Apple butter you say? running to As Ever site…thank you!
:(Hahahaha hahahaha:)
The palace and press will pick at Meghan no matter what she does, no matter when she does it. So, she might as well do whatever she wants, whenever she wants.
This. And at this point, we don’t know what Meghan will choose to do or post when she’s in the uk. It’s too early to say.
Why on earth are we giving any oxygen to Fitz and Scho?! They are proven liars and fantasists. As is Faux News. This would all be laughable if it weren’t so threatening.
Harry’s focus has turned to military more and more as Invictus Games got bigger and more successful year after year. He is very involved in Ukraine and because of that to UK Foreign Office. He is very close to the military in the US and NATO. He made Scotty’s Soldiers’ reach wider. He is launching a possibly global for profit venture for veterans. Maybe that is why he said goodbye to African Parks because of this military focus. Dealing with anything international military even as charity is political and needs championing by governments. I think that is the reason Harry is coordinating more with UK officials including BP. I don’t believe after all this time, after everything he said he is making a 180 turn. He is not a crazy person.
Thank you, @Gemini, for bringing logic into this discussion! I will not believe that Harry is making an about face to get the half in role, give the BaRF control over himself or Meghan, or to seek the Windsors’ approval. If he hasn’t gotten their approval after ALL the great work he’s done in his lifetime, it’s not going to come from him capitulating now. He’s smart. He knows this.
Yes, thank you. There’s a tendency among to humans to think that if they don’t understand something, it must be because it’s stupid.
Yess all of this! Also people need to just admit that they bought into the Harry the dolt narrative. That’s why is so easy for them to believe he pulled a 180, that he really really wants his papa to love him and kiss him goodnight every night… I just don’t understand why moving to the UK must means he suddenly wants back into the royal fold.
And imagine thinking y’all are more worried about Meghan and their children’s safety than Harry… what in the parasocial arrogance is going on, guys? Have we forgotten that “Freedom Flight”, was Harry’s idea (Meg was still trying to tough it out)?
It would be interesting if Harry went to the foreign office. Does a productive, non grifting Job like Andrew was supposed to do as trade ambassador. Could allow him the military and charity focus while possibly getting protection. He could even waive all or part of his salary to offset that cost and rip the argument out from under people. There’s precedent too as George, Duke of Kent (George VI’s brother) worked for a time in the early 1930s at the Foreign Office and later the Home Office, becoming the first member of the royal family to work as a civil servant.
Let’s not reframe reality.
1. It is not just Charles but also the government that wants the Sussexes back.
– Why? Because William wants the position but not the job.
– William refused to go to President Carter’s funeral and had to be forced to go to the Pope’s funeral, refused the female World Cup, ect
– RF polling the lowest ever (even with the fake emotional support polls)
– Public sentiment is so low that no crowd shot was shown at the last Trooping the Colour.
– The public is fed up with the family constantly bickering. Yes, it sells papers, but it lowers the RF’s popularity.
– The RF are all mired in corruption: Charles selling honours, William bankrolled by EPI friends, Kate’s mysterious illness and Cami’s book scam.
2. Even though they had moved away, the Palaces were still all up in their businesses
– Literally hundreds of negative articles every day by the UK tabloids
– US news aggregators like Yahoo, MSN and Apple have pushed a lot of the UK negative articles
– William sent his people in to destroy Sentebale
– William started a smear campaign about Africa Parks
– William is still trying to dislodge Harry from Invictus
– William has a (taxpayer-paid) online bot army to spread misinformation about the Sussexes
3. Sussexes are wary of attacks
– Someone in the UK made an open call for photos of the Sussexes in New York, and they were chased all around the city
– Archie’s room caught on fire in South Africa
– Crazy lady outside of Meghan’s baby shower
– Crazy stalker following Harry
– UK media fueling
So the situation wasn’t getting better. I understand why, given the opportunity to call a truce, the Sussexes would take Charles and the Government up on it.
It has worked to some degree because they are back, so many folk don’t understand why KP is still up in arms.
Part 2:
Here is where the Sussexes’ comms team need to push back effectively:
1. The UK media has reframed the security issue as security paid for by taxpayers, without citing that Harry took them to court to pay himself.
– Get a Sussex comms X account just for the community notes.
– Every time the UK media mentions the “taxpayer-paid security” issue, post a community note that Harry tried and failed to pay himself. It is ridiculous to see royal reporters who had reported on his failed case now report as though Harry is trying to steal money from the UK taxpayers
– Again, every time the UK media announces that they left for “privacy”, they need a community note to clarify that they offered to work half in, half out and cite other royals doing the same. They also need to clarify that they stepped back to REFUSE taxpayer funding so they wouldn’t be beholden to the UK media.
As Camilla Long stated, ” We pay, you pose”. At that point, they still weren’t sure whether their children would be titled, as Meghan said in the Oprah interview and that her baby would be refused security. (Yes, they were discussing refusing the children security while she was pregnant. In fact, in Spare, Harry says they initially refused Meghan security before they got married… so this issue goes way back.) In return, they would earn their own money.
– Reinforce that only information that comes from their comms is real. They don’t even have to dispute it. For example, Palmer wrote that Harry agreed not to go to Remembrance. That post needs a community note stating that this information did not come from the Sussexes’ comms team.
Brilliant suggestion!
@Harriet, the Leftovers are in for a surprise if they think that Harry is going to do William’s job for him! But ITA you make lots of good points.
If the press choose to cover Meghan grocery shopping over Kate pretending she knows anything about early years while holding a bunch of a school kids hostage for a photo op, whose fault is that?
It’s the fault of the damn gutter press!
I said a couple of weeks ago, before we knew they were returning, that the Windsors totally blew it by vetoing half in-half out. Then they would have had some of the control they were seeking. The total exit made H&M free agents. The palace lost all control. This is what makes the move back so stunning to me. In the original People article announcing their return, there was a line about the Sussexes feeling they had now achieved their goal of half in-half out. So, yes, this is apparently what Harry has wanted all along. And, as I have thought, it leaves Meghan vulnerable to the palace attempts to control her once again. We will have to wait and see how Harry puts guardrails around Meghan’s movements because she will need boundaries even if he doesn’t.
They are NOT “Half-in/Half-out”.
Half-in would mean they are also officially working for the RF, and they are not.
The question is can they avoid palace control. Harry seems to be coordinating with the palace somewhat. And I am paraphrasing from the original People article about their return. That they had successfully executed half in -half out. They are royals inside the UK. The palace is obviously getting nervous and feels the need to exert control. Going to charity events is kinda the definition of “working” as far as the palace is concerned.
@Brassy Rebel that’s not what they said… they said they were moving to the UK for an extended period, having just enjoyed their summer holidays. Nothing about half-in, or anything about the Royal Family. And it was more of a confirmation than an official statement (which is probably why there’s all this confusion. The Sussex’s never made an official statement about their plans to move to the UK, they simply responded to a query… I guess they weren’t ready to make one, and instead of lying or saying No comment…)
Again we are constructing the narrative that, because the Sussexes chose to move back to the UK, Meghan no longer has any agency in her life. That Harry has made all of these decisions unilaterally and is dragging the rest of his family along whether they want to or not. This is just as much fanfiction as anything the Rota puts out.
Agreed💯💯💯
They said from the beginning that they would go back and forth.
6 years in the US allowed Meghan to network and set up her businesses, while Harry maintained his charities and also made new alliances in the US.
Now, I see Harry getting stuck as a private citizen in the UK, networking and setting up new businesses. Meghan will maintain and expand her businesses while seeking new opportunities.
That’s it. Meghan made her business as flexible as possible by buying back Netflix’s share. So now she can manoeuvre however she wants.
Yeah, my thing is that we don’t know how this is going to look. Say what you want in a few months or 6 months sure, but right now, a lot of assumptions are being made that have not happened yet.
Oh, please, the palace never protected Meghan in the first place. The crown protects the crown, end of. And they decided pretty early on that Meghan wasn’t going to be part of that.
As for trying to control Meghan’s (and only Meghan, it seems) “access to the institution”, for what? Why would she want to step foot in any of the royal residences or awkwardly attend any of their events? They still just don’t get it. Meghan needs access to the royals like she needs Kate’s “fashion contacts” – as in, not at all!
It’s projection. The palaces need Meghan and the kids so they can offer them up to the press.
So Schofield says “eventually the pattern becomes the story.”
Well, Kate has established a clear pattern of copying Meghan’s style; why hasn’t that pattern been reported by the rota?
And W&K have established a clear pattern of being lazy dolts. Why isn’t that covered with more intensity?
Also, Charles has a clear pattern of cozying up to pedophiles. That pattern should be the biggest story.
Funny how the only patterns that become the story are those involving Meghan.
Boo hoo. These people. . .
They don’t generate interest because of Harry’s DNA, they generate interest because they are interesting people. Plenty of Windsors have the same DNA and do not generate interest. Not to mention, Meghan has none of their DNA but they still want to control her. These are truly the laziest people ever. Instead of working on themselves to make themselves more appealing, they just demand that everyone else be more boring and useless. Must be nice!
You’re completely wrong. If Harry is back and Meghan agreed to bring her children to London, it’s because there was a very compelling reason. And that reason isn’t Harry wanting the palace to control him. I truly believe Charles is dying and Harry doesn’t want to miss out on spending time with his last remaining parent. That’s the only reason that makes sense.
THIS! I think Charles has been told that he has a limited amount of time left and that’s why they’re moving. They are not going back to being working royals. Meghan if she was smart and we all know she is, probably said fine but I will continue with my business.
It’s weird. I think this is true, but Charles was just as sick when he had to be shamed into seeing his son and grandkids over a month ago. I don’t think anything has changed since then and it also tells me that Harry continues to value his relationship with his father more than Charles does with him. Combine that with the monarchy at all costs mindset I just think Charles is using his illness as just another way to manipulate and control Harry. It’s an ugly speculation but considering that many bpeople think the monarchy had something to do with Diana’s death, I don’t think it far fetched.
If DNA were all it took to be interesting, William would be interesting. I think the only part of Harry’s DNA of any interest is Princess Diana’s.
Exactly! And people would actually know or care who Edward is. I swear if he walked down the street in NYC today, *maybe* two people might recognize him. If that. And I don’t think anyone who did would even bother to take a picture, they’d just shrug and move along with their day, lol. Harry and Meghan cause mob scenes wherever they’d go.
yah this isn’t going to work out. Problem is, I think Meghan is going to be the one that breaks, and unfortunately, her children are now under the jurisdiction of the Crown and I do not think she will have any more of a chance getting physical custody than Harry has done getting armed protection.
They aren’t working royals, their children are their children are as much under the jurisdiction of the crown as they were in CA. Their proximity has changed not the circumstance.
If Meghan gave information and gave up autonomy to that cult, it would be sad.
Also, Charles is going to die sooner or later. Why….?
So BP and KP are upset that the Sussexes always attract more press coverage than the boring “working royals.”
And their solution is … to try to control the Sussexes. To try to prevent Harry and Meghan from engaging with their lives and charities on their own terms.
Not to, you know,
— Work more, to generate more coverage
— Do more interesting things. There are only so many articles to be written about William day drinking or Kate telling us the early years are important while putting her hair up.
— Use that famous threat of withholding access to compel the tabloids to cover the “working royals” instead of stalking the Sussexes. Win-win.
It’s pretty amazing that by not being seen in public for weeks, Meghan and Harry (but specifically Meghan) have received more attention than all working members of the royal family combined. Imagine the press reaction when she DOES emerge….
I think they went back because they didn’t want their children to lose out on the their legacy. Once Charles dies and William is King, it will get more complicated to make this move. Archie and Lili are also the right ages to start in a new school. Archie is still young enough that other students will be entering in the same year as him, so he won’t be the only “new kid.” Lily is just now really old enough to go to school at all, at least beyond the pre-school age.
Yes, it’s going to be hard for Meghan. She has to contend with a lot of nonsense on top of the stress of a big move. But I can understand her taking the position that she’s not going to let anyone take that from her kids. Or from her. They still have a place in California, and even if they didn’t they have her mother and friends there. They have a place in Portugal, or so we think. It will be hard but it’s not like there is no escape valve.
That’s my take. I have no idea what is happening behind the scenes. I only know that I certainly wouldn’t let my self-important brother to stop me from living and raising my children in my own country, or that of my spouse/partner.
@maisiesmom This is also my exact take on Harry’s reasoning and Meghan’s on returning to the UK. Yes I wouldn’t let anybody keep my children from their birth heritage. It’s just as much Archie and Lily’s titles, line in secession etc as it is Will’s kids. They are also Royal grandchildren of the king as much as George, Charlotte, Louie. So I feel like they’ve given this a lot of thought and I’m here to support them as they definitely know more than what I do.
‘…eventually the pattern becomes the story.” Pffft. These people see patterns everywhere & in everything.
ummmmm…..don’t think so Ms royal reporter. The Palace may have ‘considerable’ power over the royal events and access to royal buildings but who wants to be part of that fading glory and more public scrutiny or complete disinterest? Not Meghan…she has a voice and a life and a huge interest following without any of them.
I do not see why she has to co-ordinate with anything but her own agenda and maybe it is she who has a lot of power if ‘they’ provoke her. Meghan can plan to do something everytime the royals ‘do’ something and let them scream and shout….more publicity for her brand and more toxicity for them! Poor Harry….he can keep doing his little bit to appease the nazi german family but appeasement did not work in the past and it sure will not work with the Trumps or Windsors. Maybe he knows that already but is getting some concessions for his charities and especially for his vetran family and Invictus in the UK next year. And of course it is Diana’s 30 memorial next year and maybe his father’s …Fu..n r .al……is not far away and he needs a uk base for his family so he can have them near when the ridiculous long drawn out event takes place …..again to drum up interest and clicks. Love the fact the media here is fuming with no access and no photos!
I’m so glad these vindictive people no longer have control of her. I hope Meghan goes about her life with her family, work on her various projects and grows her business, forge new connections or reconnect with charities in the UK. She knows the palace has no interest in protecting her and will outright sabotage or undermine her if she lets them in on anything. I hope she continues to post on Instagram, travel when needed and just go about her life without giving them anything. I think Harry should do the absolute bare minimum when sharing any info with the palace because they will never give him the same courtesy he is wanting to give them. I don’t know why he thinks he can play ball with these backstabbing snakes.
Half in half out meant doing royal duties when requested by Elizabeth but taking no public funding and being financially independent. That was what H&M proposed back in January 2020.
Betty rejected that so they are completely out. That was the palace’s choice & if that has resulted in no control over their movements that’s too bad. They can only blame themselves for relinquishing control & im happy they did.
Harry and Meghan are NOT half in half out & people mag claiming they’ve achieved that is an example of royalist press own spin. I doubt H&m would describe themselves as half in half out.
The press have recently taken to pretending that they are half in half out as they regret cheering on the palace quashing it back in 2020 & the resulting lack of access and advanced information. They also want to push the idea so they can use it to criticise h&m for breaking the sandringham deal, latch onto what H&M do charity wise as if it’s part of the work of the monarchy & therefore use it to justify why they continue to ‘scrutinise’ them more than the other royals
We have no idea what their visibility will be like during their uk extended stay. The press don’t know either which is why they are asking everyone and their mother about the gentleman thing and contacting Meghan ‘s uk charities to see if she’s been in touch.
This is a big relocation so they are probably just hunkered down organising and adjusting. Harry has the sky dive, well child awards, invictus spirit awards, his birthday and I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s in NYC for travalyst and Diana awards summits later in September. Guess we’ll see if Meghan joins him at any uk events
“Betty rejected (half in half out) so they are completely out. That was the palace’s choice & if that has resulted in no control over their movements that’s too bad. They can only blame themselves for relinquishing control & im happy they did.”
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I can’t see them leaving their children in the UK without one parent present. So if Meghan makes any appearances with Harry, it will be be in the UK.
The Palace never protested Meghan. They never will. I hope she has some safeguards. She’s been thriving without them and was thriving way before them.
What are the palace doing t ensure that Kate and William’s appointments do not overshadow, Harry and Meghan’s Both couples should be treated with the same respect.
Well, first William and Kate would have to actually DO some engagements. Are they on month two of their vacation now? 🙄
I hope Chuck & Wills can’t control Harry & Meghan & the Spencers, and can’t stop them from making a documentary about Diana for the 30th anniversary of her death.