In September, a judge ruled on the Heritage Foundation’s 20-month attempt to gain access to Prince Harry’s visa records. Originally, Heritage FOIA-requested Harry’s visa records, which of course are not public documents. Heritage then took that FOIA request through several federal courts. They wanted access to Harry’s records because Harry wrote about his drug use in Spare, and Heritage was on a fishing expedition to discover IF Harry lied about drugs on his visa application. The idea being, if Harry lied about drugs, he could be “deported back to the UK.” Heritage was openly doing the bidding of the British media AND the monarchy. Anyway, back in September, the judge examined Harry’s records and then ruled in favor of the Biden administration’s Department of Homeland Security, denying Heritage access to Harry’s file and putting the whole thing under seal. Meaning, the judge saw nothing alarming in the file and saw no reason for Heritage to have access to someone’s private immigration documents. We hoped it was all over.
Then Donald Trump “won” the election. Suddenly, there’s been a revival of interest in the “Prince Harry could be deported” storyline. The British papers are salivating at the thought of it. Royal reporters even suggested that Prince William might have spoken to Donald Trump about his brother’s immigration status last weekend. And so now Heritage has filed another legal challenge. This time, Heritage’s argument is not “we need the records to see if Harry lied!” This time, the argument is “ANY drug use should have prohibited his residency in America.”
A right-wing think tank has launched a fresh legal challenge against the Biden Administration over Prince Harry’s US visa records, claiming there was “no proper method” for his admission to America. The Heritage Foundation’s latest court filing seeks to overturn a judge’s earlier decision to terminate their case, which aimed to force the release of the Duke of Sussex’s immigration documents.
The organisation’s lawyers wrote in the filing, seen by Newsweek: “[Heritage] submitted there was no proper method by which the Duke of Sussex could have been admitted.”
The case had previously been dismissed in September by Judge Carl J. Nichols after he privately reviewed confidential Department of Homeland Security files. The Heritage Foundation argues that the sealed nature of the judge’s reasoning denied them the opportunity to challenge the DHS’s private disclosures.
The Heritage Foundation’s case centres on Prince Harry’s past drug use disclosures during the US immigration process. The think tank contends that if the prince was honest about his previous drug use, he should have been denied entry to America.
In his earlier ruling, Judge Nichols addressed Heritage’s argument that Harry either disclosed his drug use and was “admitted inappropriately” or failed to disclose it entirely. A recent Government filing responded to these claims, stating: “The evidence before the Court plainly sufficed to show that [Heritage’s] speculation of impropriety was unfounded.”
Heritage’s lawyers have now clarified their position, asserting they were actually arguing that it would have been impossible for Harry to have been properly admitted to America through any means. Heritage’s challenge focuses heavily on the sealed nature of Judge Nichols’ decision-making process. The think tank argues that the confidential handling of DHS files prevented them from properly contesting the department’s private disclosures to the judge.
Their lawyers maintain that if the Department of Homeland Security had “paroled” the Duke of Sussex into the country, it would be both “illogical and illegal.”
We’ve gone from “we just want to look at his records to double-check that he didn’t lie about drugs” to “actually, we meant to say that if he admitted any kind of past, casual drug use, he should not be allowed to live in America!” The thing is, this kind of ridiculous bullsh-t will find a home in the incoming Trump administration. The new administration is going to be teaming with Heritage’s dumbf–k fascists, and you don’t think one of them will end up at DHS? What I’m saying is that it’s probably inevitable that Harry’s visa records will be made public, probably handed right over to the Mail and the Telegraph. I just hope Harry has really good immigration lawyers in California, because this whole thing has been lunacy.
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who is actually fueling this “suit”. Could it be William or one of his minions? Harry cannot be deported. This will open up a whole can of worms. Biden is actually pardoning people who were imprisoned for drug use! Shows how out of touch and fanatical Heritage foundation is.
It’s likely Leonard Leo, Ginni Thomas (with the tacit approval of Clarence) and the dark money of Opus Dei funding it. They will stop at nothing to turn ‘Murica into a far-right, white supremacist, human rights denying, book banning, Christo-fascist nightmare.
Not to mention how hypocritical this is when we KNOW Trump and his cabinet are either current drug abusers or past drug abusers.
Meghan’s niece Ashley is an immigration attorney so I imagine that she’s giving lots of legal advice.
Yes. I’m sure Harry’s status as the husband and father of American citizens gives him not just a right to stay in the US but an expected duty to stay with and support his family.
This tells me that someone has told the HF and thus the British media that there is nothing there on his visa application. They want his communication to be public so that they can write stories and make insuinations to potentially try to discredit him before these trials start next year would be my guess.
Also, because I’ve always felt that there were two sides to this, the media and the brf; I think that Charles is a lot iller than they are letting on and because they have no imagination and are incredibly arrogant they still think that they can force Harry back into being a working Royal. They seem to believe their own lies after a while, and him saying at the deal book summit that there’s nothing wrong with his marriage and he has no intention of leaving the US because he loves living here with his kids, has put a new fire under them to get him out of the US, and back into place where they think he belongs. Using all of his good ideas, hard work, and charm to benefit William and his reign. And a little humiliation of being a failure and getting rid of that troublesome wife wouldn’t be amiss.
This makes a lot of sense to me.
Agree.
Ozzy Osborne? A zillion others? Let us deport everyone or is it only the British Prince with the Black wife and kids? The English prince needed by is trash, lazy family?
“iller” isn’t proper English. Sicker I would think would have bern proper… but in slang you can say that.
Maybe Biden could give Harry a preemptive pardon for any crimes he may have committed. Just kidding but actually thinking he should give lots of people trump has said should be punished a preemptive pardon.
This is really ridiculous. I don’t know who I am going to stand 4 years of trump. I may be spending most of my time outside the US.
So by that logic, anyone who has ever done drugs in their entire life should never be allowed to live in the US? Or is that rule only for British princes who marry black women and achieve freedom from their abusive families?
It totally doesn’t make sense to me. For example Boy George has been open about his past heroin addiction and has several drug arrests, including in New York, as well as an assault conviction, yet he toured the U.S. just this summer no problem. How is this allowed but Harry who has no criminal record could be deported for casual recreational drug use?
Are they trying to change immigration law so that any immigrant who’s ever admitted to doing drugs in the past is deported? Trump is capable of anything but that seems like a lot.
BINGO
Justin Bieber is Canadian and like Harry married to an American. He has a DUI and had spoken extensively about addiction problems. Are they going to deport him to? This filing is nonsense and doesn’t strengthen their case.
there’s nothing on the application that asks the question “have you ever used illegal drugs?”
the question asks if you have been arrested or undergone treatment for drug use/addiction.
at some point, Harry should sue the Heritage Foundation for harassment, slander and invasion of privacy. They ought to stick to their own knotting-they have plenty to do with Project 2025 turning the USA into a Christofascist theocracy.
🎯 Harry should sue the HF.
Let’s be real, they want to report him for daring to marry a strong black woman and don’t have a legal argument for that… Yet.
I am terrified for what our future will be..
So I am curious. Just how much money has been wasted on this? How many hours of seething fury ? How evil. And sickening.
How many US citizens died last year because they couldn’t afford insulin, the US needs to look after the people. Chasing Harry is a waste of money.
This is Charles and Williams doing. Remember when that reporter said Harry and Meghan could come back if they “gave up everything” that’s their goal, to take everything they’ve built and force them back under Charles and William thumb. They want Harry back any way they can get him. He was the star in that crown and they know it. They just refused to treat him that way but they knew he had his mother’s touch. If I’m right, this will drag on. The US government might have stomach for it to appease Felon45, but he’s burning a lot of currently. He’s pissed off canada. If push comes to shove, Harry and Meghan might find a second home there, but this time, they are better prepared, they could move their operation there.
Well exactly they can move their operation to Canada, Portugal or any number of other countries. They never have to go back. And not to be grim but soon they will only be fighting Will I don’t think Charles has
Lee than a few years for this fight and Will is the stupid one.
I’m not even sure that Canada is safe considering that Trump has recently suggested annexing Canada and Mexico if they don’t fix trade and immigration issues to Trump’s satisfaction. I would not be surprised if the US becomes aggressive towards neighbors under Trumpism (especially if the nasty MAGA Christofascism survives post-Trump) but I am kinda laughing at the notion of making Mexico a state which would make the Mexicans they want to prevent from coming in to the US, American citizens
It’s bizarre bc hasn’t William or excuse me William’s friend briefed the DB that he hates Harry and hopes he never sets foot in the uk again. I get that William would be happy to have work-horse Harry back as long as he’s broken and willing to do whatever William orders but that would never happen. And even if did, which I don’t see happening, it would backfire. Harry would still be more charismatic and William would look worse just by having Harry closer. So idk. But do I think William would be in favor of anything negative befalling Harry? then yeah. Just having to move and start all over again when they’re so happy in montecito might make sadistic William’s day. But I tend to see this as coming more from the BM and the RF being fine with it than the RF driving it. But I could be wrong.
So a longtime heroin addict is A-OK to run the US Department of Health, and an alleged alcoholic rapist is hunky dory to run our Department of Defense. But a guy minding his own business in California needs to be booted out of the country?
Yeah that seems to be the way of it in Trumps version of the USA
And don’t forget Donnie Jr. sucking cocaine off his fingers right there in public for all to see.
Not to mention an immigrant ketamine enthusiast as unofficial co-President.
Illegal immigrant ketamine enthusiast.
It is not going to be released. This argument is even weaker. There are processes in place for the release especially since a Judge had already ruled on it.
Statutory and regulatory provisions require confidentiality in legalization cases and Legal Immigration Family Equity (LIFE) Act legalization cases, prohibiting the publishing of any information that may be identified with a legalization applicant.
So they can try. It would end up in court as any decision made otherwise could lead to Melania’s record being requested and many others. So it is just noise. Another thing. Depending on his visa status it might not even be an issue.
I totally agree with you on this. HF might think they run this show, and that they have such influence on Trump and his administration, but they are very sadly mistaken. As many as there are people that are gunning for Prince Harry’s deportation, there are equally as many that are willing and ready to fight for and protect him. And yes, even in the Rethuglican party. If Nixon tried and failed to deport Lennon, Lennon who had nothing like the IG etc., trust me, Prince Harry is not going anywhere. Sometimes people or organizations or even governments overestimate their influence when in fact they aren’t all that and a bag of chips. I was listening to a YT channel where the host was discussing Putin’s recent fcuk ups that included his full invasion of Ukraine; and I heard several Russian propagandists that said they have come to the realization that Trump might not necessarily be their guy in the way they had hoped he would be. Mark my words, Heritage will learn the hard way too.
This new filing means that the true aim of the Heritage Foundation was to get the files unsealed so that the British press can invade Harry’s privacy by publishing details in the press. I don’t believe the Heritage Foundation cares whether Harry used drugs or not they’re just doing the British press’ bidding.
So here’s the thing: Even the most zen people trying to live their life have to feel the weight of this much vitriol, blind hatred, prejudice etc. sometimes. H+M are insulated with good friends, family and therapy. But there is never a day where the bar doesn’t sink lower. They are doing the work , they are putting good out into the world and trying live a life that anyone would want and deserve. They have a gazillion jobs each, two young children and whole countries and media conglomerates frothing at the mouth to destroy them. And I am being dramatic, but also, am I? I have a job, a side hustle and a family and I’m currently overwhelmed y’all. There’s a whole other post on this site complaining about how they handled (or mishandled) their promotion of a six-episode niche sports docuseries. I get it. They are celebrities and on any given day, there are hundreds of stories out there swirling about. But I don’t know, they’re not robots. We want them to compartmentalize the awfulness and show up. Maybe they just want to live. Maybe they’re naive enough to still believe that if they keep just working, and investing, people will let them live. I don’t know the right tact for them, partially because I’m not privy to the conversations they are or are not having with advisers. But I know that they have a lot of smart people around them and that they are juggling their careers and their safety in a way that none of us are. It’s hard to read a post like this, which is scarier to me than “they should be better at promoting a project they executive produced!” Maybe both things are true. And maybe in the grand scheme of priorities or emotional bandwidth, social currency etc. some projects just don’t sit as high?
This is an excellent comment. For a lot of us their lives provide interesting content that we like to read about, and we wish for their success but this is the life that they are actually living. We don’t know what the threats against them were like totally, we don’t know what friendships they’ve had to end, and we don’t know how these constant daily attacks personally, professionally, legally, and financially have continued to impact their mental health, family life, and marriage. That we may question why they react to things a certain way, or don’t react a certain way but we aren’t privy to the decisions that they make and what factors they weigh when they make them. Nor are we privy to any of their professional expectations, so we’re only looking at a lot of this from a solely PR standpoint and that’s not the only factor that’s being considered when they are making choices about their lives.
Thank you for your excellent comment, and also to the person who replied to you.
I wish you would post it on twitter.
Yes, all good points.
One of the things we can all do is file with the IRS Form 13909, which is a complaint form that a tax exempt entity should be taxed. I think we all know that the Heritage Foundation is a political entity that should be taxed. If anyone is interested, the link is below.
I would suggest people wait to see what will happen in this election. Did you see where the high court in Romania threw out their recent election because of Russian interference including cyber attacks to their voting tabulators? There are other countries looking at this, too. It’s interesting because the people who got in are pro-Putin and dictators. Sound familiar?
https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/irs-complaint-process-tax-exempt-organizations
Thank you for that, @Saucy&Sassy.
I know that many feel this is part of the death by a thousand cuts for these two. Sometimes I can’t even open these posts–I don’t know the Sussexes and the constant abuse they face threatens MY mental health? How do they do it? How do they handle this relentless onslaught of hate?
Unfortunantly, and embarrassingly for the royals, all of this vitriol is doing the opposite of what they’d hoped. They thought that Harry was fundamentally weak and stupid, and that Meghan was conniving, selfish, and grasping. All of the abuse and the pressure these two have faced would have destroyed a lot of people and a lot of relationships. Charles couldn’t survive it. Neither could Camilla. William and Kate would have crumbled like construction paper in a toddler’s sticky hand. But not Harry and Meghan.
All of the abuse and the pressure didn’t crush them–it made them reach deep inside themselves and call on every shred of resilience and strength they had. It brought them together instead of tearing them apart. That’s what the royals hate more than anything. The king and the prince may be too stupid and self-centered to see it, but all they have done is proven what better and stronger people Harry and Meghan are than they will ever be. That’s what the historians will write.
The story of the Sussexes is really the only story worth telling about the post Queen Elizabeth British royal family. It’s a story about the intersection of race and class, a story of the obsolesence of royal values and primogeniture. It’s a story about an institution that survived the 20th century because it was willing to adapt to change, but probably won’t survive the 21st century because of their refusal to adapt to change.
Proof that the Sussexes is the only story about the British royal family worth telling? It’s the only story their own media is willing to devote attention to consistently. Elizabeth said she had to be seen to be believed. The only story being “seen” about the royals, the only narrative they want to tell, is the saga of the Sussexes. I love the irony–the media and the royals behind them have elevated the Sussexes beyond what they would have otherwise been.
Don’t forget they still have tons of money–and the opportunity to earn even more money simply by Meghan telling her story. It’s the missing piece in this saga. The Sussexes will never be in a place where they will need the royal family to survive. The speculation is just wish-casting by the media and the royals. They’ve lost the plot and the story. There’s no “winning”, but they will destroy the legacy of the royal family by trying.
They are digging and desperately trying to get Harry back to the UK. This has to be shutter island fueled. Maybe by that disgusting Nigel Farage? Regardless. I think Harry and Meghan are ready for any scenario.
At the end of the day he is married to a natural born American citizen.
Like…
LMFAOOOO what
@Kelsey,
Unfortunately being married to a Natural born American Citizen doesn’t automatically qualify you for citizenship or a long term visa. It’s been the case many times where a citizen has had their spouse or child deported. Also, the incoming administration has stated that they will deport entire families, even the natural born American citizens. They could, under that new policy, decide to deport the whole Sussex family. Sounds crazy, I know, but not out of the realm of possibility.
It’s complete nonsense to think that Meghan or her children could ever be deported. Anyone who said that is completely ignorant when it comes to immigration law. Spouses of US citizens have been deported in the past but they weren’t white, British millionaires who got their visa legally. Please don’t spread this disinformation. Harry’s identity gives him a degree of protection that most people don’t have.
There are very few situations where an American citizen is deported. And I am only using the word “few” to qualify those situations where a mistake was made. Meghan is a (using your words) a natural born US citizen. Her children are US citizens and her husband is an immediate relative of a US citizen. It is quite a stretch to imagine that Meghan and her children, and Harry, could be or under any circumstances be deported. This is not true and will not be true, no matter what Trump says.
The Heritage Foundation doesn’t realize that Trump is unlikely to do anything that would also compromise Melania’s immigration records.
There have been whispers in the media for years that Melania committed immigration fraud.
There is no “inevitable release of Harry’s immigration records”. The privacy laws about immigration records is explicitly clear.
Melania got in on a tourist visa, worked illegally and overstayed her welcome.
The Musk brothers got in on a tourist visa, worked illegally and overstayed their welcome.
Just two very noticeable examples, and I’m sure Anonymous would be happy to do some digging on others too. Let’s start with people like Neil Gardiner, and see if he’s squeaky clean.
@Nanea,
Not to be too pedantic, but Elon Musk was on a Student Visa not a tourist visa. That’s why there are stories about him illegally working in the USA before he became a citizen.
Honestly, while it’s disturbing that The Heritage Foundation is still pursuing this case and using Harry’s immigration status as a political tool, if I were Harry and Meghan, I wouldn’t even stay in the U.S. right now. The incoming Trump administration is stacking its cabinet with individuals who will likely prioritize deregulation and policies that destabilize the country further. Pair that with the polarization, media frenzy, and social unrest that seem inevitable, and it feels like the U.S. is heading into some very rough times.
If I were in their position—with the money and means to relocate—I wouldn’t even go back to Britain, considering how toxic the royalist press is there. But there are plenty of other countries with greater stability and less media intrusion. Why stay in a country that seems ready to implode when you could insulate yourself somewhere safer and more peaceful? It’s a sad reality, but if you have the resources, leaving might just be the smartest move.
If I were a Californian, I would want my state to just secede from the U.S. in January. See how the U.S. does without the contributions of California’s economy.
I think Harry is pretty safe there, but who knows? We’re in for a clusterf*ck of epic proportions.
The whole West coast should join Canada
Write another book Harry and this time don’t hold one fcking thing back. Make sure everything goes down in flames this time. These folks are going to FAFO one way or another.
How ’bout checking in with the people who run for president being convicted FELONS?
The BM is mining for content to be sure and they are using the US court system to do it. It’s doing the same thing with Scammy’s lawsuit against Meghan. If the BM hopes Trump uses his power to get Harry’s visa opened it will cost the Windsors. Trump won’t do this for free.
This is Rupert Murdoch, he seems desperate…and furious.
Yup, his father and the UK media want the Sussex under their thumb back in the UK. Hopefully a career attorney continues to handle this case and not a Trump political appointee at DHS.
Newsom had announced before that CA will be Trump proof and Newsom is pretty tough. Trump also already backtracked on lowering grocery prices – no surprise there 🙄
Seems another Trump presidency and prob on the verge of another pandemic. H would then be the least of their concerns 🙄
They don’t seem to realize that Trumps recent meeting with William would become a major blow to William if there is any attempts to deport Harry away from his wife, but especially his kids. William has lots of deranged out of their minds people who follow him, but there are people who genuinely believe in the monarchy for whatever reason and any attempts to separate Harry from his children at what would be at the request of William would turn lots of people away from him and his way of doing things. So many of his supporters still are convinced that he is good guy who is Diana’s son and to have Harry deported under Trumps presidency would be a clear sign that their meeting was to do just that. Will hasn’t been Diana’s son since he called her paranoid and took money from the media that abused her to her death, but some are still blind to that. But deporting Harry after a Trump and William meeting would make it obvious that William is Charles’s son through and through.
Trump is surrounded by a wife and in law who illegally got their visas that can be on the list for deportation as well as Muskrat who also could be shipped back to where he came if people can be deported due to their visa status issues. Let’s also remember that there are other UK people who live and work in the US who are admitted drug users, so unless they plan on shipping Harry, Piers and others back on the same boat, they are opening up a Pandora’s box that they might want to keep closed.
The dm is more concerned about the sussexes than those drones appearing around the USA. Or any other news.
Charles went to consult the court of human rights or so I read to prevent possible obstacles to his marrying Camilla. Harry can do that too and he can also write a sequel to spare. He’s not going back.
That sounds like someone making things up. There was no legal impediment in the UK for Charles to marry Camilla. None. There was no Church impediment either, as the Church of England has allowed divorced persons to marry in the Church since 2002.
C and c married in registrar office and then had church blessing. Divorcee Anne remarried in church of Scotland. Some years before.
None of that was an impediment or legal issue.
Anne and Tim were legally allowed to marry in England. As they married before 2002, they were not allowed a church wedding but that were allowed a legal marriage in England. They chose a church wedding in scotland.
Charles and Camilla were legally allowed to marry anytime after her divorce was final. Legal not church wedding. After 2002 divorced persons were allowed to marry in CoE. Charles and Camilla were allowed to marry in CoE in 2005 when they married. They CHOSE a registry office wedding and church blessing, but according to CoE they could have married in the church. They chose not to.
Charles didn’t go to a court of human rights over this.
Would harry go if this nonsense goes on from heritage