Former Playmate on group sex with Hef, stifling life in the mansion

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The Daily Mail has published excerpts from a tell all memoir by former Playmate Izabella St James, who lived at the Playboy mansion starting in 2002, at the same time that the original Girls Next Door were there. I read the highlights at the Huffington Post, and was struck by how similar St. James’ account of her life at the mansion was to an earlier tell all I’d read, with Playmate Jill Ann Spaulding. I thought the Daily Mail was rehashing that story in light of Hefner’s engagement, but they’re not. Those details were given by two separate Playmates, and are backed up by some of the details in Kendra Wilkinson’s memoir about how Hef had regularly scheduled sex parties in which women would hop on and off him (without a condom) while porn played in the background.

St. James’ story is consistent with other accounts, although see may focus more on how restrictive, stifling and dirty it was at the mansion while she was there. Here are the highlights from the Huffington Post, and compare them to this account from a former Playmate. The details of Hef’s Wednesday and Friday sex sessions are very similar. James’ memoir Bunny Tales came out in 2006, so you may have heard some of this before.

On the mess the dogs made in the house:
“They weren’t house-trained and would just do their business on the bedroom carpet. Late at night, or in the early hours of the morning – if any of us visited Hef’s bedroom – we’d almost always end up standing in dog mess. Everything in the Mansion felt old and stale, and Archie the house dog would regularly relieve himself on the hallway curtains, adding a powerful whiff of urine to the general scent of decay.”

On how bad the decor and accommodations were
“Each ­bedroom had mismatched, random pieces of furniture. It was as if someone had gone to a charity shop and bought the basics for each room. Although we all did our best to decorate our rooms and make them homely, the mattresses on our beds were ­disgusting — old, worn and stained. The sheets were past their best, too.

“Eventually I persuaded Hef to pay for a new mattress and bed linen — but I had to turn in every single receipt before I was reimbursed.

“Hef also eventually permitted us to have the rooms painted and recarpeted. But for some reason he insisted on creamy, white-coloured carpets. He liked the girlfriends’ rooms to look very girly, all white carpet and pink walls. It looked great at first, but with two dogs (most of the girlfriends had pets that lived in their rooms — I had two pugs), butlers delivering food, dirty shoes and occasional spillages, the carpet was grey and stained in a matter of months.”

On the Playmates’ weekly allowance
“Every Friday morning we had to go to Hef’s room, wait while he picked up all the dog poo off the carpet – and then ask for our allowance: a thousand dollars counted out in crisp hundred-dollar bills from a safe in one of his bookcases. We all hated this process. Hef would always use the occasion to bring up anything he wasn’t happy about in the relationship. Most of the complaints were about the lack of harmony among the girlfriends – or your lack of sexual participation in the ‘parties’ he held in his bedroom.”

“If we’d been out of town for any reason and missed one of the official “going out” nights [When Hefner liked to parade his girls at nightclubs] he wouldn’t want to give us the allowance. He used it as a weapon.”

Freedom of a kind came on Wednesdays and Fridays, the official nights out, which were the prelude to the twice-weekly sex parties in Hefner’s bedroom.

On her curfew
“Strictest of all was the curfew. Everyone had to be on the Mansion grounds by 9pm every night — unless we were out with Hef at a club or a function. People honestly did not believe us when we told them we had a curfew at the wild and crazy Playboy Mansion.”

On sex with Hef
“I wanted to see if this experienced King of Sexdom knew anything the rest of us did not. But he just lay there like a dead fish. We often wondered why he did it at all. He must know deep down that it is just a show. But he is trying to live out this fantasy he has been selling to people since 1954.”

[From The Daily Mail via The Huffington Post]

So for $52,000 cash a year, presumably tax free, free rent, free chef-prepared food and free plastic surgery on their birthdays, these live-in Playmates had to be home at 9pm every night, go out with Hefner twice a week and have unprotected sex with him twice a week. Their living conditions weren’t the cleanest because they had little dogs that they didn’t clean up after. They dealt with older furniture and the residue from countless tramps accumulated over decades. I remember watching “Girls Next Door” and thinking that the mansion looked small, cramped and old so this isn’t surprising.

Is Hef giving up his lifestyle with a house full of kept completely inappropriately younger women (the twins were just 19 when they took up with him last year) now that he’s engaged to a woman 60 years his junior? I doubt it.

People has a photo of Hef’s fiance Crystal Harris’ ring and it’s not huge or anything. He probably saved the money over a few weeks from paring down the women he paid to stay in his house.

42828, BEVERLY HILLS, CALIFORNIA - Wednesday July 21 2010. Playboy magnate Hugh Hefner almost takes a tumble as he leaves Mr Chow's in Beverly Hills sandwiched between two blondes - one of which is his current girlfriend Crystal Harris, 24 (turquoise dress). Mr Hefner, 84, revealed in a recent interview that he believed women are sex objects , but doesn't believe that it is a negative label. He told the Herald Sun newsapaper in Australia; I still think, incidentally, that women are sex objects. It's not all they are, but if they weren't sex objects, if there weren't genders attracted to one another, there wouldn't be another generation . Photograph:  Josephine Santos, PacificCoastNews.com

LAS VEGAS - MAY 15: (L-R) Model Hope Dworaczyk, Playboy founder Hugh Hefner and his girlfriend, December 2009 Playboy Playmate of the Month Crystal Harris, arrive at a party introducing Dworaczyk as the 2010 Playboy Playmate of the Year at the Rain Nightclub inside the Palms Casino Resort May 15, 2010 in Las Vegas, Nevada. (Photo by Ethan Miller/Getty Images)

34894, LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA - Tuesday October 13 2009. Hugh Hefner and latest girlfriend Crystal Harris at the 2009 Fox Reality Channel Really Awards at the Music Box in LA. Photograph: © Hellmuth Dominguez, PacificCoastNews.com

HOLLYWOOD - APRIL 22: Playboy Magazine owner Hugh Hefner and Crystal Harris arrives at the TCM Classic Film Festival's gala opening night world premiere of the newly restored film 'A Star Is Born' at Grauman's Chinese Theatre on April 22, 2010 in Hollywood, California. (Photo by Alberto E. Rodriguez/Getty Images)

 

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  1. heb says:

    I get that this is news again because Hef is engaged but…this book is so old. It was a fun fluffy read though, except for the parts about Izabella, skipped that crap, ha ha

  2. heb says:

    Oh and…you can’t be a FORMER playmate. You either were one or you’re not. And Izabella was never a playmate, only a live-in girlfriend.

  3. Mistral says:

    What a nasty, embarrassing joke. (Talking ’bout Hef. The girls are just stupid and lacking in any self-worth. We need a new Feminist Revolution…)

  4. malachais says:

    hef is incredibly creepy. The look of desperation on the playmate’s faces is priceless. Funny how most normal dignified people don’t make 52k yearly but she is still complaining.

  5. Shelley says:

    He already looks dead. It’s behind creepy that any woman would consent to get within 100 yards of him, let alone have unprotected sex with him.

  6. Jackson says:

    Yeah, that all sounds about right. Ugh. Everything about this old fool is a joke. He’s become a caricature of himself. I’d say that ring is about two carats. Guess she wasn’t good enough at those sex parties to earn something bigger.

  7. Westcoaster says:

    This is gross on so many levels. Plus I have to wonder are they sure it is dog crap on the carpets? Maybe Hugh did not make it to the bathroom in time…

  8. sickofit says:

    well, they were better hookers, nothing new here. but when you look at the circumstances many of these girls came from, everyone seemed to seek out a deal, right?
    hef is an old pimp, but with brains, so nothing new here. the only thing that creeps me out is the dog poo and smelling around the house. Ugh, thats disgusting and you couldnt “see” this on girls next door.

  9. Isa says:

    @ Westcoaster:

    “Plus I have to wonder are they sure it is dog crap on the carpets? Maybe Hugh did not make it to the bathroom in time…”

    LOL at your comment!

    Happy new year!!!

  10. Rita says:

    It all sounds like the fairytale I thought it would be. I mean it’s the 21st century Camelot and by that I mean camel-lot. It’d be perfect if Hef let camels roam the house instead of dogs.

  11. lili says:

    Can’t believe they don’t have a NDA in place.

  12. cindy says:

    Prostitution in its simplest form. At least they make 54k and arent on the streets. Hopefully medical testing is a must. Doesn’t seem like that would be a priority to Heff or the girls. Could you imagine the cooties he has had over the years and he just keeps passing it around and around with more than willing partners. Makes me want to throw up.

  13. The Truth Fairy says:

    The girl in the 2nd to last pic is one of the Playboy twins Karissa or Kristina Shannon.

  14. fanny says:

    Eww … it is all so beyond hideous! What are these people thinking?

  15. Tess says:

    Ugh. Humiliating.

    Filthy old perv and his harem-mates.

  16. Po says:

    Ok, that was such a repulsive story and not because of Hef he is obviously worthless. But can you imagine being a young women with so little dignity that rather than going out and working for a living you would stand in line for an allowance from a creepy old man and let him critique you and give you a curfew. I don’t even want to get into the sex. Yuck!

  17. heb says:

    @truthfairy
    uh…no its not, thats Crystal from a weird angle

  18. Whatever says:

    He makes my skin crawl. I haven’t been able to look at him without thinking of him hopped up on Viagra and the line of girls waiting to hop on his shriveled peen for 30 seconds at a time since I old first read about it. Sickening. I can’t imagine the complete lack of self esteem these girls have to live like that. Where are their parents????

  19. EzE says:

    Hefner is a disgusting human being, most guys see him for what he really is, a guy who has to pay women for sex, ie Loser. I really think a lot of women think men admire him which is why he has these reality shows,

  20. Marjalane says:

    This entire article and both books shouls be mandatory reading for any girl who’s contemplating dropping out of school to pursue her “dreams”. The idea of five minutes with this sick bastard makes me shudder.

  21. December says:

    Is it me or does Crystal Harris look a bit like Dina Lohan in these pictures of her?

  22. Tammy says:

    Absolutely disgusting. I assume he also pays for the abortions of any children that were conceived over all these years of unprotected sex.

  23. lilred says:

    Not for 100,000 dollars a week…absolutely disgusting!

  24. Lenore says:

    Cracks me up that the Playboy brand is now being so aggressively marketed to young girls as just a fun, sexy, playful thing to have on your school pencil case. (I will never forget seeing the logo on school supplies in my local WHSmith’s the first time; I almost shouted out loud, “WHAT the FUCK?” But I’m pretty sure they wouldn’t have served me if I had.)

    I’m tempted to print articles like this on stickers and go around slapping them on every item of Playboy merchandise there is. Sure, buy Playboy, if you want your daughter to grow up aspiring to be a live-in sex-doll servicing a withered old misogynist with hygiene issues on a mattress still crusted with the juices of bunnies past. It’s so empowering!

    Also, just for the record? If I was on a grand a week, I’d fork out for a good Dyson and a couple of bottles of Febreze at the very least. I have pets too, and sometimes they come into the bedroom, and sometimes they poop where they shouldn’t, but bunnies, you can CLEAN IT UP. If you’re living in filth it’s not all Hef’s fault.

    And now I need a shower.

  25. Tess says:

    Tammy, that old lizard probably lays in his filthy bed, eyes glazed over and half closed, getting blown by one of his interchangeable, blond bimbos. Point being, I bet pregnancy is a non issue.

    Sorry for the sickening image.

    To whoever asked “where are the parents?” Sadly, some are participants in the depravity, in the sense of going to the “mansion” for dinners, events, etc.

  26. sam says:

    If all of this disgusted her so much, why did she do it? If she didn’t want to wait on line to get paid like a whore, why did she? No one kept her hostage, she stayed because she traded sex for money and a place to stay.

  27. guesty says:

    the decor @ ‘the mansion’ is circa what…1970′s thrift. that place is in a complete time warp. & he is disgusting.

  28. Relli says:

    Yes I am so glad you did a post on this. I keep mentioning this in every post about hef or the playmates. Its a really simple good read and st james is an educated womanas oppossed to a stipper/adult actress or glamour girl, so I was really interested in hearing her pov. But heb is right she was a girlfriend not a playmate which is actually different, although she worked on the mag. The whole thing just sounded icky and hef comes across as a controlling daddy type down to their pink and white bedrooms. Ugh.

  29. Isabel says:

    I honestly loved the Girls Next Door series when it first came out. I thought it was super interesting. But over time, it became apparent that the mansion is a dark, stale place driven by the regimented schedule of a geriatric. How about those movie nights, when all of his buddies creep on over to watch 1930s flicks in their Depends? Or Monopoly night? Good GOD, it’s like living with Grandpa…except you have to have sex with him…ugh…

    I can’t argue with the butler service and outdoor parties, though. Those were pretty cool.

  30. bondbabe says:

    Boo-friggin-hoo!! Ever heard of moving out or the word “no”???

  31. Truth-b-Told says:

    And lets remember this, We all live in a society that allowes and tolorate what Mr. Heffner is doing. People watch it on T.V and read about it in Prints everywhere. What does this say about our society in general. I beleive a majority of our people are sick perverts when you look deeper. Pimps and prostitute are topics of our entertainment because we are a materialistic society , cherishing money before integrity and self worth.

  32. crazydaisy says:

    LIKE top photo – isn’t that golden snake-trimmed peek-hole super cute and sexy?! I want me one of those. But no Hef to go with it: ew.

  33. Leticia says:

    Hefner is repulsive and pathetic and always has been. I’m sorry for all of the girls whose lives he helped destroy. Although the girls should have known better. But yes, he is just a pimp.

  34. LolaBella says:

    The thought of women hopping on and off Hef sans condom is one of the most shudder-inducing images ever.

    *shudders violently*

    That said, I have NO empathy for these women who CHOOSE to live this lifestyle for the fame and whatever else it could do for them (like the tell all books that made them millions).

    Also, uh ‘allowance’? No, it’s your fee, hooker!

    You may have only one client, but compared to others who are literally selling their bodies, you ‘live in girlfriends’ are living the life! What the hell are you complaining at??

    ETA: Also, how the hell is what Hef is doing even legal???

  35. judyjudy says:

    There is obviously no shortage of women lining up for this lifestyle. I’m supposed to feel bad for a girl who chose this gig? And yeah, Hef is old and creepy but he has gotten what he wanted for decades, so good for him.

    When I’m 80 years old and have young firefighters lining up to rub my feet and watch Happy Day reruns with me, you can bet your tush I’m not going to turn them away.

  36. the original bellaluna says:

    If you don’t want the job, don’t accept the job. If you accept the job, please don’t whine at me while you’re making twice as much as me for doing said job. My job doesn’t include being paid for attending club openings, parties, and sex. (No, I’m not a sex worker, but I don’t make that kind of money for an “F” of a lot harder work!)

    You caught me without my “give-a-damn” – so pardon my lack of sympathy.

  37. original kate says:

    i believe it. what i don’t believe is that a playmate would use words like decay, participation or harmony.

  38. bluhare says:

    To what depths people will sink for fame. Getting on and off a condomless viagra’d Hugh Hefner? Take away the age, etc. etc. there is no way I would jump on something that other people have just ridden. GROSS.

    PS Unless it’s a real horse. I have done that! Ridden one, in a saddle, with clothes on I mean.

  39. brin says:

    Dirty old man with deep pockets.

  40. MissyA says:

    You people seem to forgot that it’s hard out there for a pimp /When he’s tryin’ to get this money for the rent / For the Cadillics and gas money spent / Because there’s a whole lot of bitches talkin shit.

  41. icantbelievethis says:

    “You caught me without my “give-a-damn” – so pardon my lack of sympathy.”

    ITA. I have no sympathy for someone who chose to do that.

  42. heb says:

    I think there is a shortage of women willing to be with him/take care of him these days—that why he’s marrying her!

  43. MNGIRL76 says:

    @ the original bellaluna:

    Hell yeah! Totally agree!

  44. poof says:

    That pic of her kissing him in the red tie, looks like she’s cringing.

  45. wub says:

    hefner has a daughter who is like 70 years old now. lol

    there has to be some film footage of the orgys that go on his room.

    gross.

  46. Kiska says:

    I’d rather take a job cleaning toilets than resort to that kind of life. It must literally suck the soul out of those girls. Hef is one disgusting human being. Women are objects to him. He has no respect for females at all.

  47. AC says:

    People complain that Hugh Hefner is a disgusting old perv but these bunnies are no better. They are grown women who made the choice to live the lives that they chose for themselves so they are worthy of fault of as well.

    It’s sad they chose this path in their lives for supposed fame and stardom (because let’s face it, they’re not living there because they actually love Hef) but it was their choice and now they must face the conse quences for their actions, including humiliation, STDs, unintended pregnancies, possible abortions, etc.

    I have no sympathy for them but it looks like they’re not looking for any sympathy either. Hopefully they’ll realize there are better choices in life than the one they’re living in now.

  48. Amy says:

    So are we supposed to feel sorry for this whore because she had to “turn in receipts” and deal with the mess left behind by her effing BUTLER?! Gah.

  49. LindaR says:

    Silly old man. Doesn’t he know? Tricks are for kids.

  50. Cakes says:

    I do feel sorry for her. I feel sorry that she has no respect for herself and that she felt like living at the mansion and having sex in que is something to be proud of. I truly feel so sorry for her and any girl who feels that they are not better than this and feel a sense of pride and empowerment from being in that situation. I pray that I can be a strong enough and a positive enough role model in my daughters life so she will look at this behavior and be just as disgusted as I am.

  51. mollination says:

    homely = ugly

    homey = like a home

  52. Kim says:

    The girls do sign up for it but Hef is sick. He is an old cheap pervert trying to hold onto an image from the 70′s. Pathetic on both sides.

    They arent his girlfriends if he was paying them – They were paid hookers. How does that make him a stud? ANY guy could pay for sex. It just makes him pathetic because he has to pay for it in the thousands to multiple women.

    How do him and Charlie Sheen differ? Except i dont think Hef is into drugs.

  53. Kim says:

    This girl doesnt sound like she is whining or complaining it at all. She is simply telling what she experienced. Since weve heard same from many other girls about Hef being cheap and the house being disgusting and just from waht i have seen on the “mansion” on tv it looks REALLY run down.

    Sounds disgusting.

  54. Shay says:

    The things these fame whores put themselves through, a shrivelled old-man penis for one – to get a headline.

  55. nolanative says:

    Uhmm, I get that Hef is a disgusting ole fart but news flash to these tricks, ya could have left at any time. Free will, no one was holding you hostage. These chicks signed on for the assignment of paid piece-o-ass so what’s the problem? I have zero sympathy. Silly old man should pay for some professional hos that know to keep their traps shut.

  56. mrsodie2 says:

    Thousands of women and girls are sold against their will into sexual slavery. These women choose it, get paid well, and have the nerve to complain? I’ll bet the thirteen year old in a Thai whorehouse would trade places with act of them in a New York minute.

  57. Isa says:

    I don’t think she is whining. I think she’s just showing the world that there is a lot more that goes on behind the scenes of the Girls Next Door. That it’s not all parties and glamour and sex with a wrinkly, old penis.

  58. annie says:

    Have’nt I heard this guy call himself an advocate for women? Oh my God, what a laugh! Now this is what real chauvanism looks like, he could never handle a real woman.

  59. truthzbetta says:

    It is sick that they sell this logo on tank tops and necklaces for young girls and college kids.

    He and the bimbos are so much more pathetic than anything you could make up. I hear Hef’s having money troubles, probably why he’s doing the show marriage.

    Dirty, perverted, and can’t even afford cheap ho’s anymore.

    There was a time when young girls wanted to grow up to be Madame Curie. Now they want fame for anything. Big difference is nobody celebrates today’s Madame Curie’s which they used to so how would a young girl even dream of becoming one?

    News rags promote geeky thiefs for men of the year so even unethical nerds have role models, but women who enter into the public arena are cut down for who they are instead of their actual stances or accomplishments. Their weight, what they wear, and mothering skills become something to pummel them for. But ride Hef and a football player and you get your own t.v. show and book deal. Release your grungy sex tape and you’re a fashion icon, with t.v. show and book deals.

    Not all blame is on the impressionable youth. They imitate what we celebrate because that is the chief way humans learn.

  60. kelly says:

    Im not judging their lifestyle- different strokes, etc etc, but if you’re taking money and you’re a consenting adult, just suck it up and be professional. You’re not being held prisoner and if you didn’t have such a huge sense of entitlement, you’d realize actually, compared to the wage slaving a lot of us have to do, you’ve got it pretty easy.

    Don’t whine about getting free shit and exposure etc; do it or don’t do it.

    I agree that the mansion looked scuzzy, budget and dated, but then that’s HH. Nice grounds and lovely animals, though.

  61. tg says:

    I just wonder if all of these girls end up riddled with HPV or worse. I mean, c’mon, the guy’s had zillions of women and has to have some kind of disease.

    I wouldn’t get near him even if he was dunked in a tub of Clorox.

  62. Paula says:

    “This is gross on so many levels. Plus I have to wonder are they sure it is dog crap on the carpets? Maybe Hugh did not make it to the bathroom in time… ”

    Thank you for making me laugh, Westcoaster.

  63. wunderkindt says:

    The demeaning weekly allowance ‘stand and beg’, dog crap on the floor, plus nasty unprotected sex with an old geezer ho’? Sick!

    Since 1954, Hef’s had a chance to contract every known STD.

  64. Hakura says:

    @mrsodie2 (#60)- Thousands of women and girls are sold against their will into sexual slavery. These women choose it, get paid well, and have the nerve to complain? I’ll bet the thirteen year old in a Thai whorehouse would trade places with act of them in a New York minute.

    After reading this story (as well as the others that were referenced), what you said was *exactly* what I was thinking. I thought “The only thing missing from this, to make it sound like ‘sexual slavery’… is the fact that these girls aren’t being forced, and are being paid.”

    It’s hard to believe, but I honestly don’t think they realize that they’re prostitutes. I think if you asked them what a hooker was, they would say someone who gets paid to have sex. Then if you accused them of that being the case with their relationships with Hefner, some of them would probably try to convince themselves that they’re ‘girlfriends’.

    I hadn’t known any of this before reading this article. I’m absolutely sickened by it.

  65. Isa says:

    Ugh. The STD thing is just gross. How can women expose themselves to this? If they are willing to have sex with him at the same time as other girls I’m willing to bet they’ll lie about having an STD. Not to mention the countless women/men that don’t even know they have one!

    A thousand dollars? I think I’ll just stick to making 90-100 a week. Which is about how much I use in gas to drive back and forth to college!

  66. Cinderella says:

    If he ever has to sell the mansion, it will need to be razed. Yuck!

  67. Nibbi says:

    bligh bligh blighhh
    i for one am glad that this story comes out- i hadn’t every really considered that those chicks (ugh) actually have to have sex with hugh hefner. (duh, i know, but IGH!) i am happy to watch the whole mass-marketed media image be flipped over a bit to expose the skuzz underneath for those poor fools for whom it wasn’t immediately apparent- i tend to stop paying attention at the first flick of platinum-bleached hair and the flash of a plastic titty. what kills me is that i read in the daily mail piece that this particular chick is a law grad. whatever.
    when will we stop objectifying ourselves? allowing ourselves to be objectified? is there *any way* that sort of lifestyle can be personally fulfilling to those women??

  68. Susan Cole Highland Texas says:

    He’s got dirt cheap taste in home decor and women.

  69. oooooo says:

    the girl in the first pic has glassy, stoner eyes.

  70. Wresa says:

    @ Lenore – THANK you, I have long thought I was the only one who felt that way!

    I am loving the comments on this thread and seeing that the average (amazing) woman can see through the BS Playboy crap. Calling this lifestyle out on its latent (or not) misogyny is NOT jealousy, as men and even some women will try to tell you. And now we have proof of just how far the fantasy is from reality, straight from the horse’s mouth.

    That’s not to say I feel sorry for these women. I see how they could get carried away by the “glam” of it all, but they aren’t feeble little children who are unable to provide for themselves the way real women can and do in this day and age. Grow up and get a job using your brains, not your body. :/

  71. Jennifer says:

    Maybe Heff should spend that money he keeps in the safe,on cosmetic surgery for himself.I wonder what all of those male and female hangers on will do when he dies.

  72. BornLoser says:

    I knew Playboy was the most boring of the porn mags, but didn’t know why until I read about Hef’s bizarre mating rituals. Maybe when he was younger he moved around more? But he’s always given off a disgusting vibe.

    The girlfriends are paid to be there clearly, so they work for him. OSHA, the IRS, and all State labor and payroll regulation authorities should be crashing his next party, demanding to know why he’s basically paying them under the table.

    I’m not going to pass judgement on the girlfriends, though. Except to say they should insist on a condom. Otherwise there decision I wonder why society jumps on this type of woman so eagerly. I like knowing that there is an alternative type of woman to the one frigid straight laced ice queen I married. Let he who is without sin throw the first stone…

  73. Please stop. says:

    What is she complaining about? If it was so bad she could have left. She was a paid employee that was stupid enough to go along with the rules.

  74. don wreford says:

    The hef scenario is a reflection on the culture of times, the Playboy Magazine must have been a popular icon in our history, if anything the portrayal of the the flesh that seems to be so all consuming to the desires that it is as if the ingredient of personality and character are of no consequence, if anything and I am 74 years old one may ask the question what about the mind?, is it not an enigma that so many of my generation think beyond the bounds of image, mirage and phantasy?, it is to my shame that I myself did not get it, it is of small consolation two World Wars occurred, and the age of modernization representing a path laced with intrepid confusion that to many the spiritual ramifications were and are overwhelming.