Nicole Kidman: You’ll die for your children

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Nicole Kidman did a new interview with 20/20’s Australia that aired last night. People Magazine ran an excerpt in which Nicole discussed her struggle with fertility issues and the fact that she hired a gestational carrier to have her second biological daughter, Faith, who is about seven weeks old. There’s some criticism that Nicole focused on her biological children (at least in the quotes that People ran) but in the full interview Nicole does talk about her adopted now teenage children, Isabella, 18, and Connor, 16, and says that she wishes they would come live with her. I think that Nicole went through so much when she separated from Tom in 2001. She suffered a miscarriage around that time and was separated from her children. She can’t talk about the way that Scientology strongarmed her into giving up custody to her children to Tom, but I think it’s safe to assume that’s what happened. (Tom’s divorce from Nicole was coordinated by Scientology, according to a former high-ranking official in the cult.)

I watched the interview online (available here) and Nicole seems starry-eyed and over-the-top as usual, but she does say some nice things about parenthood and how it changes you.

KARL STEFANOVIC: Nicole’s first pregnancy with Sunday Rose was common knowledge. But the announcement of Faith’s sudden arrival and the use of what Americans call a gestational carrier caught us all by surprise. Can I ask a personal question – were you at the birth?

NICOLE KIDMAN: Yeah! Oh, yeah!

KARL STEFANOVIC: How was that?

NICOLE KIDMAN: I mean, so deeply, emotionally moving and having given birth and then being on the place of seeing my child being born this way, the love I felt for our surrogate, gestational carrier. When we released our statement I know in Australia there was, like, “Gestational carrier – what does that mean?” And I think we were trying to be accurate. If it’s your biological child then you use ‘gestational carrier’ and if it isn’t, then you use ‘surrogate’. I mean, who knows what it is, but she was the most wonderful woman to do this for us. And we were in a place of desperately wanting another child and this opportunity arose for us. And I couldn’t get pregnant and we wanted another baby. I get emotional just talking about it ’cause I’m so grateful to her. I cannot believe I’m now crying on 60 Minutes.

KARL STEFANOVIC: It’s a beautiful thing. You should be proud of it.

NICOLE KIDMAN: Oh, so, so proud and anyone that’s been in the place of wanting another child, or wanting a child, knows the disappointment, the pain and the loss that you go through trying and struggling with fertility is such a big thing. And it’s not something that I would ever run away from talking about. I’ve had a very roller-coaster ride with fertility. I just have, and it has never been easy for me so to now be in this place where I have two gorgeous adopted children and two biological children, I can’t believe that’s what’s happened in my life, you know.

KARL STEFANOVIC: Is the bond the same when you gave birth to Sunday as with Faith?

NICOLE KIDMAN: Yes. Yeah. I mean, but it’s the same when your children are adopted as well. I think children are children. You’ll die for your children and when you feel that as a parent, I mean, that’s the unconditional love and people can talk about it and until you feel it, you can’t quite grasp it.

KARL STEFANOVIC: Nicole has always yearned to be a mum. As the young wife of Tom Cruise she conceived but suffered an ectopic pregnancy. When she was 25, they adopted daughter Bella and two years later son Connor. Have Bella and Connor met Faith yet?

NICOLE KIDMAN: Yeah. I mean, it’s so different because they don’t live with us but I would love them to come and live with us at some stage. I mean, they’re 18 and 16. It’s a different thing. They’re teenagers. They’re in a whole different place…

NICOLE KIDMAN: I’m just a girl who’s been put into pretty extraordinary situations at times and I’m kind of navigating my way through. And I fall over and make mistakes, pick myself back up and hope for the best and try to conduct myself with as much, I suppose, authenticity and, um, you know, a moral code which I feel is right and that’s really all I have, so.

[From Ninemsn.com.au]

I think there’s a lot of pain there for Nicole. She missed seeing her children grow up and she was separated from them and couldn’t talk about it. Now she has two daughters with Keith and it doesn’t replace her older kids, but it’s not like she can get that time with them back.

I have to mention the rumor that Nicole had her first biological daughter, Sunday, via surrogate but never acknowledged it. It’s not something I believe, but if you look at Nicole’s relationship with the truth it’s entirely possible. This may sound like a stretch, but look at how she admitted to Botox use many years after the fact. She said it in passing like “I tried Botox” but didn’t own up to lip implants or any other injections, or the fact that she was “trying” Botox for years to the point where she looked like a wax figure. She even said “I’ve never tried plastic surgery on my face,” which could technically be true if you don’t count injections. Maybe she “tried” a surrogate for Sunday and that’s how her first daughter was born too. There’s no shame in it, but when you try and project a perfect image you may end up fudging the truth, and then conducting multiple follow-up interviews in which you try and control how much of the truth you’re ultimately willing to disclose.

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  1. brin says:

    I know a lot of people slam her about her relationship (or lack of) with her older kids, but the fault seems to be with Tom Cruise and not Nicole. I really am happy for her and her life now because she went through a lot to get where she is now.

  2. tracking says:

    The statement “you would die for your children” seems a bit grandiose given the fact that she relinquished custody of her adopted children. I don’t care under what circumstances–threats? blackmail? The possibility of dimming her professional star in some way? I for one just don’t get it, and find her gushing over her new children annoying under these circumstances.

  3. Quest says:

    I am glad for Nicole (especially when one struggles with fertility issues). Being with Tom and that Scientology thing would not have made it any easier. See seems to be in a more pleasant place in her life now.

  4. eja102 says:

    I wonder too, she had money and standing, why could she not fight for them?
    Do you think COS threatened the kids or something, so she let it go to keep them safe?

    I admit, I would like to know what happened. Call me nosy.

  5. Hautie says:

    After reading that last NYT article about the Cult, I have no doubts Nicole was not given alot of choice about when she got to see the older children.

    I am not convinced that her name ever got on the adoption papers.

    After reading how children are treated in general within that freak show atmosphere. I am surprise she has seen them at all.

    So I refuse to judge Nicole on how she navigated that whole issue.

    She is lucky that she escaped.

    And I still suspect her need to tinker with her face… has something to do with getting her self worth screwed with by that Cult.

    I bet Tom had some not so nice words for her when she left. Since you know he is the “chosen one”.

    Now look at Katie Holmes.

    And tell me that her head has not been completely screwed with by Tom and his cult.

  6. Anastasia says:

    Huh. What struck me was calling herself a girl at the end of that excerpt. I’m just a girl? Woman, you’re 42. You haven’t been a girl in ages!

    I think Sunday was carried by a gestational carrier, but they didn’t want to share that fact. I don’t know, I think it was super important to her that Tom see that she DID have a child after him. Granted, she’s her biological child, anyone can see that. But I think the carrying it part was uber-important that time and for the second baby, she didn’t feel the need to prove anything, so yes, I think she wore a prosthetic belly the first time and then gave up the charade the second time. Celbrities have done far stranger things.

  7. Whatever says:

    “I think there’s a lot of pain there for Nicole. She missed seeing her children grow up and she was separated from them and couldn’t talk about it.”

    Thank you for saying this. I don’t get all the comments that she gave up her kids, or loves Sunday more, etc. Disconnection is a very real policy in that “church” and Nicole is considered a SP. Tom and his whacky cult basically took her kids and brainwashed them.

    I’ve said before that seeing what happened to Nicole is probably why Katie stays with that lunatic. Better to be with Suri every day than to risk having her brainwashed by Tommy Girl.

    I feel very sorry for Nicole and all the families that have been ripped apart by Scientology.

  8. Rita says:

    I do hope Nicole and Keith are happy. For the most part, they seem grounded in the family which they will need when they’re asked to exit the stage. During the whole “Cruise” thing, she kept it private and still does. Maybe the “church” made it so but it had to be hell for her.

  9. GeekChic says:

    I wouldn’t put it past the COS to threaten to take the kids and hide them away on some desert island (or something so she would never see them again) if Nicole didn’t do as she was told. She was threatened, absolutely. I have always gotten the feeling that she loved those kids very much, and she honestly gives off a sort of defeated vibe when she talks about them. I think it actually really pains her. She had star power and money, but nothing even remotely compared to the power and money held by the COS.

  10. missy says:

    I agree that we shouldn’t judge Nicole too harshly about her older kids, because we don’t know the circumastances. But it’s funny that the people who say that we shouldn’t judge Nicole are the same ones who have no problem throwing out all sorts of horrendous accusations at Tom (like saying he would hurt his own children REALLY?) It also annoys me when people say things that are blatantly false. For instance, many people seem to think that Cruise pressured her into giving up custody when they divorced. No. The truth is that they had joint custody after the divorce. There are so many things that we’ll never know, but when it comes to the few things that are confirmed, I wish people would get their facts straight. It could simply be that as the children got older, they wanted to stay in one place. Naturally,they chose to stay in L.A. since that is where they were raised. Nicole mentioned that they have met Faith, so she obviously still sees them. I know I’m in the minority here, but I really wish people would leave BOTH Cruise and Kidman alone regarding Bella and Connor. We don’t know what the circumstances are but the important thing is that they appear to be well-adjusted young adults/teens.

  11. Ruby Red Lips says:

    I don’t care what reasons there were i.e. scientology, if Nicole wanted to she could have made more effort with her elder children. There are legal proceses that she could have gone through, she certainly has enough money to pay a lawyer.

    There is no excuse for not seeing you’re children, I think it is lazy parenting on her part.

    Having said all that I’m sure the 2 daughters will be loved fully and glad to hear it, just a shame Connor and Isabella missed out on time with their mum.

    Oh and I do believe she didn’t carry Sunday either, nobody’s body is that perfect a week or so after giving birth

  12. devilgirl says:

    I really get tired of the “She had a fake pregnancy” crap. Yeah, yeah, everyone in Hollywood fakes pregnancies because surrogacy is so embarrassing! Riiight! What in the hell would be the point?

    As far as some women getting their figures back. I had a friend who had a baby and was back in her size 4 jeans 2 1/2 weeks later. Some people have that ability.

  13. Marjalane says:

    I’m as far from a fan as possible of NIcole KIdman, but I think that her older kids, having been raised entirely within the confines of Scientolocrap have about as much love and respect for Nicole as Tom Cruise does- which is to say, none. They’ve probably been hearing “unflattering” things about her for a long time.

  14. TG says:

    @Ruby Red Lips – My sister is 5’10” and also walked out of the hospital in her regular size 27/28 jeans. She hardly showed throughout her pregnancy, although I some of that was her lack of eating.

    I wonder if her kids just had a choice of who they wanted to live with and of course they picked to stay in LA since they have been brainwashed since the day they were born.

  15. ghostwriter says:

    @Ruby Red Lips – Just curious; have you read The New Yorker’s article start to finish? Also, I am a divorce lawyer – not big guns like the ones you read about. I applaud your confidence in the legal system misplaced as it is. The cold, hard reality bears no resemblance to what you see on weekly TV.

    ——
    I’ve always believed there was a whole lot of back story re Nicole’s children with Cruise and the COS – after reading The New Yorker’s article, I am convinced. I hope others will take the time to read it – it’s long but revealing. Others might not be so judgmental if they did. We will likely never know the terms of the adoption; the divorce (and I don’t mean the court documents); the get away; and the horrors she faced during and after. I’m not a fan, but she seems giddy as someone who lost their life – and got it back.

  16. mln76 says:

    I read the article and also listened to a “Fresh Air” (NPR podcast on Itunes) interview with the writer who is very reputable and details his research. I think it’s very possible Nicole never officially adopted those kids and therefore had no legal rights.

  17. elizabeth says:

    @ ghostwriter

    Very true. I too am a divorce lawyer and “joint custody” with an emotionally abusive/controlling ex-spouse is the same as your ex getting sole custody and you getting shut out of your kids’ lives. I have seen it happen – the lies to the court, the police and child protection agencies, the brainwashing of the kids by your ex (and his family)and eventually you just give up when faced with your brainwashed kids saying over and over that they don’t want to see you. One guy had his son convinced that the mother (my client) left them for another man – it was a total lie. She left an abusive spouse who beat her. But in the end, the kid didn’t want to see mom anymore because of all the crap his father told him. So I can see this happening to Nicole. FYI, its called parental alienation syndrome. Very sad for the family.

  18. KJ says:

    @missy – I think there is far more evidence to be judgmental of Tom Cruise in this particular case. He’s a nut case, and there’s no one that can convince me otherwise. Scientology is a big joke based on taking advantage of people who trust you. Tom Cruise constantly uses his star power to get things from the Church (slave labor anyone), and the fact that he’s friends with someone like Miscavige is damning in my eyes. It’s perfectly fine to be more judgmental of Tom. We may not know everything about what happened, but this is what we do know – he’s psycho.

    Knowing what we know about Scientology, disconnection, and the amount of blackmail and strongarming that’s done throughout the “church,” it’s very hard for me to place blame on Nicole other than for her lying about botox. They’ve done just as bad, if not worse things, to so many people.

  19. REALIST says:

    Well, maybe Nic has found happiness in Nashville after all. Let’s hope this fairy tale lasts.

  20. mln76 says:

    @missy there is plenty of evidence that Tom Cruise is part of an abusive cult and has done such lovely things as used a workforce made up of Scientology slaves to do menial tasks for him. I can believe he is capable of alot of really f–d up things in the name of his religion.

  21. missy says:

    I never said that people couldn’t be judgmental of Tom for some things. I just meant that when it comes to disscussing the custody situation, I don’t think it’s fair to place all of the blame on him

    REjoint custody: Of course I know that just because someone has joint custody on paper, it does not mean that their ex can’t find a way to keep the children from them. But after reading several older articles about Tom and Nicole and looking at photos, they did appear to genuinely be sharing custody of the children for the first few years after the divorce. The kids were often spotted on Nicole’s film sets, attenting award shows with her, and going back to Austrailia to visit relatives. I think the kids have only lived with Tom full-time for the past few years.Nicole herself has stated that as the children got older, they wanted to stay in one place, and they chose L.A. Now one could argue that they were “brainwashed” into making this decision, but it is also equally likely that they simply preffered to live in a familiar city where they already had friends and cousins close to their age, rather than moving off ton Nashville. We’ll never know for sure, but the kids seem to be well-adjusted and I believe Nicole does still see them, so I don’t see what the problem is.

  22. mln76 says:

    @missy in other circumstances I would agree but with all the information on Scientology that’s out there from non gossip sources like CNN and the New Yorker you can’t just ignore the patterns. One hallmark of Scientology(and other cults) is they ostracize non believing family members or anyone they deem to be ‘enemies’. Combine that with the information that Scientology actually orchestrated the Cruise/Kidman divorce and you can’t look at it like any other custody situation. And I don’t think Isabella Cruise looks that happy (My opinion only)

  23. S_____ says:

    @Anastasia
    “Huh. What struck me was calling herself a girl at the end of that excerpt. I’m just a girl? Woman, you’re 42. You haven’t been a girl in ages!”

    That’s what struck you?

    I’m 42. I frequently get called a girl and I call myself a girl when it applies.

    Watch Notting Hill. Sometimes ‘girl’ just fits.

  24. Whatever says:

    they did appear to genuinely be sharing custody of the children for the first few years after the divorce.

    Yes, it takes time to brainwash a person. No quotation marks around it. When you alienate children and label their mother a supressive person, that is abusive, cult behavior. He deserves to be criticized for promoting an organization that absolutely separates families. It’s sickening to read story after story from people who have gotten away from COS and lost their families.

    @mln76: Isabella looks so unhappy in every picture. I know she’s a teen and they can be miserable, but NEVER smiling? Something seems off there, or she just hates participating in the pap parade with Katie and Suri.

  25. Tazina says:

    There was no way Nicole could have gotten those children away from Tom Cruise and Scientology. Don’t blame her for the fact that she barely sees them.

    Of course Nicole gave birth to Sunday. The rumor mill is busy I know, but this is one rumor that is not true.

  26. missy says:

    Even though I’m not a huge fan of Nicole, you guys can note that I have not said anything negative about her. Some have accused her of abandoning her older children to start a new family. After all, she’s the one who chose to move across the country from her children, and the children did appear to still be a part of her life before she met Keith. But I did not accuse her of that, because I felt that it would be unfair to do so when we do not know the full story. Likewise, I think it’s unfair to make all sorts of accusations against Tom when we don’t really know what’s going on. But that’s just me.

    BTW, I have indeed seen recent photos of Bella where she was smiling. Like any normal person, she has different moods and expressions. Some people just choose to focus on the negative.

  27. Ruby Red Lips says:

    I appreciate all the divorce lawyer comments as you work within the profession, but as a parent there is no way in hell I would ever give up with my kids, especially as their mother.

    There are ways and means to try and yes we don’t know the exact situation about the divorce etc but NK has in many interviews ‘forgotten’ about her elder kids.

    @ ghostwriter, although I am not a divorce lawyer I am an educated reasonably intelligent person who actually realises that tv doesn’t reflect real life. That comment was rather patronising, superior and generalistic and I truely hope you don’t speak to your clients like that

  28. mln76 says:

    @missy I am not making accusations I just read an article by a Pulitzer award winning journalist and making logical conclusions.
    I actually am not the biggest fan of Nicole’s current incarnation and think that her marraige isn’t as happy as she says but this has nothing to do with this topic.

    EDIT: as for Bella I stated it was my opinion that she didn’t look that happy in photos in direct response to your assertions the Cruise kids look well adjusted. Both are opinions who knows what the truth is.

  29. missy says:

    @Mln76, My comment about Bella was not adressed to you. I didn’t even realize that you stated that she did not look happy. But whatever, we can agree to disagree.

  30. Crash2GO2 says:

    @Ruby Red Lips: “…as a parent there is no way in hell I would ever give up with my kids, especially as their mother.”

    I appreciate that you feel this way. But you have to understand that in the case of custody when two parents cannot agree, the court makes the decision for them. IF that were ever to happen to you (like it did to me) you might ‘lose’ your kids. It happens. As much as we like to think our kids are ours, the government doesn’t see it that way. I can halfway understand why people lose it, kidnap their kids and run to another country when custody issues happen. The sheer terror you experience at losing control of the presence you have in your child’s life is indescribable.

  31. Dea says:

    @Anastasia – I totally believe Nicole faked the pregnancy. From what I have read it is the rumor that Nicole was diagnosed with androgen insensitivity syndrome which means she does not have an uterus as a result she could not bear kids. So she faked the first one and after so many rumors in the media that she faked it she did not obviously wanted to go through faking it again so they chose the surrogate the second time around. I believe that Nicole can do such a thing, she learned from Tom all kinky things, but am shocked that Keith will put himself through this. I cant wait for the truth to come out one day. If that happens she will loose Sunday Rose like she did the adopted ones. And to all who give her kudos for leaving Tom. The undisputed truth is that Tom left Nicole, she would had never left him. I mean don;t you read her own interviews when she has said “she did not expect it” “it happened without any signal form tom”. What proof do you need more that she did not intend at any time to leave Tom. She did not care for scientology as long as she had fame and money. I am shocked again that people say that she was brave enough to leave that crazy scientologist. Nicole could have spent the rest of life with Tom if Tom did not leave her. Nicole gets extremely attached with the significant other, so attached as I can put it possessive. That is the truth and nothing else. And there are many stories we do not know but nothing can convenience me that Nicole left Tom. Like I said it was the opposite and Nicole did not give a damn about these kids. She just followed Keith as she wanted to marry quickly and did not care that Keith was a drug addict like she did not care that Tom was addicted to scientology. addiction comes in different ways and forms.

  32. Camille says:

    Oh whatever Nicole. 🙄

    I wonder if the ‘gestational carrier’ had red hair…

    @Dea: I agree with your comment 100%, especially this: Nicole was diagnosed with androgen insensitivity syndrome.

  33. Ruby Red Lips says:

    @ Crash2GO2, really sorry to hear you had to go through something like that & I can’t imagine that senario & can’t imagine how horrific it must have been for you, but I’m sure you tried your darndest to fight for them & truly loved and wanted your child/children whatever your outcome

    Saying that I still believe NK doesn’t care/love Bella and Connor like her other 2 daughters & I do believe she didn’t fight for them and she should have whatever the outcome. Her answer in this article about whether they have met Faith is really vague & doesn’t strike me as a) maternal or b) like she really means a word of it:

    “Yeah. I mean, it’s so different because they don’t live with us but I would love them to come and live with us at some stage. I mean, they’re 18 and 16. It’s a different thing. They’re teenagers. They’re in a whole different place…”

    It’s just a very cold response especially compared to the rest of the interview & the fact that she says you ‘would die for you’re children’ – obv not expecting her to literally, but I don’t believe she was that passionate about B&C

  34. Dea says:

    @Camille – yes that is extremely likely to be the truth. I really wonder how can some people go through this kind of faking. I mean women can fake orgasm, yes, but pregnancy??!!! LOL 🙂

    BTW, I like your “gestational carrier” red hair comment.

  35. Crash2GO2 says:

    @Camille: “Nicole was diagnosed with androgen insensitivity syndrome.”

    I have never heard anything about this. Have you got anything except wild speculation to back it up?

  36. Dea says:

    And I forgot to cite something when it comes to comments about Nicole being threatened. People seem to go on Nicole side to a certain extent. The fact is that if Tom was a bad guy and wanted Nic to not have access to kids at all he could have done it so easily just by saying that he did not want kids to be around a “alcoholic and drug addict” like Keith Urban was at the time that Nicole met him since 2005. Keith was in rehab for a very bad cocaine and alcohol addiction even after his marriage. Courts could have sided with Tom right away. Keith was at such a bad period in his life with addiction (I give him huge kudos for staying clean for years) that a person in Nicole’s position would have thought twice before going out with him let alone marrying such a man when she had these two young kids and those two kids were going to be around Nicole and Keith visiting them. But the truth is that she did not think about that at all. Nic is just selfish!!! And I am not protecting scientology, I am an atheist and do not believe in church, mosque, or any other cult out there. I am just saying how the truth is when it comes to Nicole’s decisions. A mom would go at the end of the word for her children. I mean we are saying how crazy Halle Barry is but she left the movie in the middle to fight for her rights as a mom. In the court of law and especially when children are involved nobody cares that you are a scientologist or even a president.

  37. JenJen says:

    I read she recently said she has a very happy memories of her years with Tom, so whatever that means.

  38. Westcoaster says:

    Somewhat off topic, but has anyone ever noticed how Tom and Nicole’s adopted son Conner seems to look a lot like Tom? Maybe Conner and Isabella are actually Tom Cruise’s biological children and if Nicole did not formally adopt them she had no custody rights.
    Considering the rumours about Nicole not giving birth to Sunday or that Suri is not Tom’s but either a) Katie’s former boyfriend or b) the result of a sperm deposit from a cousin of Tom’s . Would this surprise anyone if Tom had someone to bear his children?

  39. Francesca says:

    She is an extraordinarily beautiful woman, botox or not. Leaving her adopted kids was the price she paid in that divorce. It is clear the teenagers were scientology cult brainwashed and that must be the greatest sadness of all to her. I’m glad she is moving on in the ways she can. She deserves happiness for sure and I bet she is a wonderful mother.

  40. louise says:

    I’m glad she’s talking about her adopted children. In almost all of her interviews you would never know she has 2 older kids. I don’t understand why people say Nicole faked her pregnancy. Why would she fake it for the first child and be open about the second? It doesn’t make sense.

  41. Camille says:

    @Crash2GO2: Yes, I do have an excellent source actually (believe it or not *shrug*), one that has no reason to lie.

    And I believe it was Dea who brought it up first in this thread- so you might want to ask her the same thing 😉 😀 .

  42. launicaangelina says:

    i am glad this article isn’t bashing nichole. i too have wondered about the custody arrangement between her and tom regarding their older children.

    i used to read ted casablanca’s the awful truth and would always write cryptic things about them and make nichole seem horrible. i tired quickly of his blog because he always writes as if he knows all the insider info about all of hollywood. it’s obnoxious.

  43. Rosanna says:

    Remember the story in the Bible about King Salomon and the two mothers? The real one is the one who doesn’t settle for half of the kid preferring none to having to split him/her. Enough said.

  44. Crash2GO2 says:

    @Ruby Red Lips: I think maybe we will have to agree to disagree on this one. 🙂 IMO, there is a very good chance that her response was so stilted because she simply cannot risk alienating the children from her any further than they already are by pissing off Tom. I am sure the children have been convinced that she is a ‘subversive person’ and I really feel for her on this one.

    @Rosanna: Wow. That insight brought me to tears. At some point perhaps you have to realize that the fight you are having with your ex is taking too much of a toll on the child (children).

  45. gg says:

    @missy – who said, “But after reading several older articles about Tom and Nicole and looking at photos, they did appear to genuinely be sharing custody of the children for the first few years after the divorce.”

    Yes, everything looked normal, briefly. And THEN, after about the last photo taken of Nicole with the older kids, suddenly everything changed and Nicole was basically exiled from her kids while Tom interviewed for a new robo wife, and started his new $cieno campaign and the two older kids virtually disappeared and everybody moved into the Tiny Terror’s house. All the crazy chit started with Tom on chat shows, and the “top secret” writings from the COS were published along with Tom’s insane rants and filmed advertisements for “wild and wooly” $cientology.

    It was all pretty obvious as it went down. Nicole was clearly suddenly made persona non grata and couldn’t do a damn thing about it.

  46. Chris says:

    I thought Nic came across really well and I particularly liked her response to this question:

    “KARL STEFANOVIC: Is it a constant worry to have to always look fantastic? Is it one of the problems?

    NICOLE KIDMAN: I don’t feel the need to. I mean, honestly, I have a husband that’s pretty easy going in relation to, I think, you know, love, in terms of, the goal is I want you to love my soul. I want you to, because we’re going to grow old together and all that’s going to go and if that’s what captured you or has you interested then we’re doomed. So I think a lot of that is, that just melts away and you go into a much deeper place. “

    As an aside I thought I’d compare Tom and Nic’s films since they split in 2001. Nic’s body of work is more impressive. In terms of their careers I think maybe leaving the kids with Tom slowed his career down a bit and allowed her to work more.

    Tom’s films:
    2002 Austin Powers in Goldmember
    2003 The Last Samurai
    2004 Collateral
    2005 War of the Worlds
    2006 Mission: Impossible 3
    2007 Lions for Lambs
    2008 Valkyrie
    2008 Tropic Thunder
    2010 Knight and Day

    Nic’s films:
    2002 The Hours
    2003 Dogville
    2003 The Human Stain
    2003 Cold Mountain
    2004 The Stepford Wives
    2004 Birth
    2005 The Interpreter
    2005 Bewitched
    2006 Fur: An Imaginary Portrait of Diane Arbus
    2006 Happy Feet
    2007/I The Invasion
    2007 Margot at the Wedding
    2007 The Golden Compass
    2008 Australia
    2009 Nine
    2010 Rabbit Hole

  47. Anne de Vries says:

    I wonder too, she had money and standing, why could she not fight for them?

    Google ‘scientology vs IRS’ to find out what happens when scientology really goes to war. She would have the full might of the franchise on her head, never gotten anywhere, and meanwhile the children were poisoned against her – she would have been declared a suppressive person, and they have been taught to believe that she just by existing, SPs are sabotaging everything scientologists work for.

    I think it’s fairly likely that by keeping silent, she was able to at least stay in contact with her children, and that she hoped to keep lines open should they ever wish to leave the cult.

  48. irishserra says:

    I too, don’t understand the judgment of Nicole regarding her separation from her children. If you read enough about that ridiculous CoS cult, you find that it’s not uncommon at all for people to just “disappear.” What good would it be for Nicole to fight for rights to her children, only to be offed and then her children be shipped back to their wacky dad? I’m sure she felt she did what she had to do and probably what she felt was her only option.

    Also, I think I agree with Anastasia about Nicole’s need to prove something to Tom regarding her ability to get pregnant, so I give her a total pass on the possibility of deceiving everyone regarding the birth of Sunday Rose. Besides, what’s the big deal?

  49. lilred says:

    Has anyone considered that Isabella and Connor are teenagers…and maybe do not want their mother talking about them?