Life & Style’s cover story this week is sure to be introduced into evidence when Suri Cruise goes on trial for beating her father to death with his high heels. I’m actually not too put-off by this cover, mostly because I too have been wondering what Katie and Suri were up to, and I’m not even a judgment-filled mother. For the past few weeks, Katie and Suri have been in NYC, with no Tom Cruise. So when daddy’s away, the Xenu will play, and Katie and Suri have had some late nights out on the town. Literally, Katie brings Suri out for late-night Broadway shows and dinner at 1 am. I’m not a huge fan of saying that a child is going to be irreparably damaged by a late night or even a binkie at the age of 4, but there does seem to be a disturbing pattern of Katie’s lack of parenting skills:
Father usually knows best — but not in this case, in-laws believe. Life & Style has learned that Katie Holmes’ Midwestern parents are concerned about the effects that Tom Cruise’s religion, Scientology, are having on their 4-year-old granddaughter, Suri.
Scientologists treat kids like adults, “independent individuals capable of making their own decisions,” Scientology expert Rick Ross tells Life & Style.
After seeing a tired Suri out for 1 a.m. dinners, playing with penis-shaped candies and still being allowed to use a pacifier, Martin and Kathleen Holmes, “are really upset,” an insider tells Life & Style, with the lack of boundaries Tom and Katie are setting for their little daughter. “They’re very worried that Tom isn’t letting Suri enjoy the childhood she deserves because of his Scientology beliefs.”
The practice has already taken a toll on poor Suri, says a second insider. “She often throws temper tantrums when she’s out with Katie and Tom,” the insider says. An eyewitness tells Life & Style that during a late-night trip to Serendipity in NYC on March 15, Katie and a nanny couldn’t get Suri into her car seat. “As always, Suri won and didn’t have to sit in her car seat,” says the witness.
While experts disagree about many aspects of child-rearing, they’re unanimous on one thing: Parents should never give in to a child when it comes to car seats. According to New York state law, children Suri’s age must use a booster seat at minimum.
“Kids are not little adults,” child psychologist Vicki Panaccione tells Life & Style. “Their reasoning abilities, nervous systems, decision-making processes and moral judgment are just not up to adult development.”
[From Life & Style]
Also, on that night when Suri was at Serendipity until 1 am, eyewitnesses say that Suri was “cranky” and rubbing her eyes. And Suri got to check out Daniel Radcliffe in How To Succeed In Business. Oh, and she “reads” Vanity Fair! Excellent.
In case you’re about to run to Suri and Katie’s defense, Life & Style spoke to Katie at the event for hair dye on Tuesday night, and Katie seems to be saying that she’s cool with us talking about her:
After a whirlwind week that had the media buzzing about Katie Holmes and Tom Cruise daughter Suri’s 1 a.m. dinners, playing with penis-shaped candies and still being allowed to use a pacifier, Katie finally speaks out.
When approached at the John Frieda Precision Foam Colour event last night in NYC, actress and mom Katie responded “no” when asked if she was tired of her parenting being critiqued. She added, “Suri is doing great, thank you.”
[From Life & Style]
Yeah, it’s not a sit-down interview and Katie probably misheard the question. But still! Katie says it’s okay to talk about her mothering skills, so have it.
Cover courtesy of Life & Style, additional pics by WENN & Fame.
Suri will be the new Lilo in 2020.
High heels on little girls looks so creepy, so pageant freaky.
Katie’s thighs look better in dresses.
@BRIN-I was thinking of the same when i was scrolling down..she is a spoilt brat!!!
Suri must be insufferable to be around. Kids need consistency and boundries or they will grow up to become an insecure mess. The real world will eventually come knockin at Suri’s door. Then what?
My daughter is the same age as Suri and I am very protective of her meals, and sleep schedules even on weekends. That little girl is in serious need of good mothering, not spoiling.
Children need direction and this could be the start of a dangerous journey into adulthood if left alone
“independent individuals capable of
making their own decisions”
What kind of bullshit nonsense is this? I despise these people and their ignorant cult.
Suri is looking more like Tom. She’s growing up wayyy fast for a 4 yr old.
The fact that her daughter is even AWAKE at 1 am speaks volumes to me. Like, it happens constantly. My 3 year old can’t stay up past 10 on the weekends, when I give him that free pass. This is really ridiculous.
“playing with penis-shaped candies… throws temper tantrums….won’t stay in the seat…”
What’s next? An interview with Robin Roberts.
Wow! Suri really favors Tom! I wish Suri the best…looks like she’s gonna need it.
Child of the corn + Stepford wife = what do you expect?
I think this is mostly an exaggeration. i mean she picked up a box of penis shaped candy and now she’s “allowed to play with xxx candies” really? maybe she was up til 1am, ONE night and in that picture it looks to me like she is in a child’s car seat! i think the whole lot of them are creepy as hell but i think this article is a pile of nothing.
I usually hate mommy judging but this is extreme, it’s been obvious for years that Suri isn’t getting proper parenting. I think Katie is using Suri as a comfort due to her obvious misery in that marriage and situation but she needs to get a backbone and learn the word no. I think Tom was at least a better parent to the older kids but he seems way too out there now to step in and give some discipline.
I should just boxing into the her face always when I see her.So irritating,little b…h!
I know that when I was little…I was in bed by like 8 pm. or 9pm…I’m not sure. Whenever “Married with Children” came on I was in bed (ha..I knew bed time because of the theme song). There were very very FEW times when my parents let me stay up…and those were for special reasons.
As awful as this sounds, I really wish I could do a psychological research study on the children of scientologist parents. Like…what happens as they are growing up? Do they have adjustment problems? Behavior problems? I mean…really.
I’m always surprised by these celebs who carry their post-toddling children. I know kids that small can be slow walkers, but the amount they get carried, I wonder if they even can walk. Plus, icky kiddie ugg prints on my clothes would put me into orbit.
This child reminds me of my rich kid cousin. Shes now 13. her parents had previous marriages and other kids, before marrying each other, then had her very late in life….
she has been spoiled SHITLESS since she was born. we never know what gifts to get her for christmas or birthdays bcuz she has EVERYTHING, from laptops to ipods to designer brands, and private tutors.
However, she’s turnin out to be really smart and cultured bcuz of spendin most of her time with adults.
But her sense of entitlement outweighs any of those redeeming qualities. And she has a not-so-hidden disdain for ‘poor people’.
Its clear to me that Suri Cruise is being raised just like her. A Paris or Lilo in the making.(Albeit, with a bit more brains)
I’m sure Suri is spoiled, but you can’t always believe what the gossip rags have to say. (If they were true Jen Aniston should have 10 kids by now…)Playing with Penis candy I find laughable. Kids have a tendency to grab whatever they see off the shelf. And for all we know, 10 seconds after the photo was taken Katie could have seen what was in her daughter’s hand and put it back on the shelf.
As for the heels,I remember Katie saying once that they were ballroom shoes for children. Suri is obviously a little girly-girl and probably wants to dress just like mom, like young girls often do. As we can see, she’s not always wearing heels. Like I said, I do think Suri is going to grow up to be a spoiled brat, I just don’t think you can believe every word that comes out of a gossip rag.
Who’s penis candies are they…Tom’s?
I see we have two Rita’s today so I want to clear up any confusion. One is clear, concise, and articulate….I’m the other one.
Criticism be damned. I can’t stand this kid; I think she looks positively evil. I know she’s just a product of her freak parents, but she’s got a real “I am the test tube spawn of L.Ron” look about her. I don’t know that she’ll ever be the new Lilo, but I get a feeling she might be the first Queen Zenu with a pacifier.
If she is indeed a miniature adult with a fully formed brain capable of making adult decisions, why the nanny (ies) ?
@Rita oh good I was a little disappointed in that post you are usually mean spirited but in a wicked way that makes me laugh and pays homage to the Celebitchiness in all of us…. 🙂
Those aren’t ballroom shoes for kids, unless kids are suddenly taking to wearing ankle twisting mules to dance in. Those are slides, no strap. I call BS on Ms. Holmes. She’s a scio, what do you expect, they don’t set rules for kids.
I’m more interested in that cover picture. Is that an old shot of Katie circa her Dawson’t Creek days? It looks like they shopped a really old picture of her with a current one of Suri. Just looks strange to me.
Grad Student: Google “Ex Scientology Kids.” I warn you, it’s disturbing. Many people who grew up in the CoS and have since left write personal stories about their experiences in and out of the church and submit it to the site. It’s really, really sad, but it says a lot about what it’s like. It won’t be entirely accurate to Suri’s point of view, as she’s raised also with unbelievable wealth and untouchable parents, but there are some hints of what she’s in for.
Is the Nanny in the photos Isabella Cruise?
Ugh I wish I was Suri, she’s going to turn out to be such a rich bitch,
GOD ! those FUGLY fuzzy house slipper thongs or whatever they are. CHILD has BAD BAD taste. i say let her suck on her penis candies and suck on her baby bottles til she’s 30 years old ! i can’t WAIT to see this waste of human flesh when she’s mid teen years ! what a FUN FUN time that will be for all of us ! maybe she’ll join SHEEN’S KORNER!
If you have penis-shaped candies, do you really need a pacifier?
This is to poster #17, my computer is being weird and I cannot read your name. I carry my 3 year old around for many reasons, the least of which is because he doesn’t walk fast. Actually, more because my little Emerson RUNS EVERYWHERE. He just takes off in the middle of a grocery store or a parking lot if I don’t hold him. It’s easy to say “Oh just hold his hand tighter,” but it really doesn’t work that way when you’ve got a teensy hand that can slip out of your much larger hand easily. Also, as I’m sure it is with Katie and other mothers, it is a protection issue. Ems will run up and talk to anyone! (I joke that I need to get him chipped.) He doesn’t know a stranger, because he is a happy, loving, trusting child-unfortunately, just like his momma. When I hold him, It makes sure he can’t get away from me and can’t run off with some random person in Target. I can’t imagine having to deal with the paparazzi assaulting your senses with flash cameras and questions…that would make me even MORE protective. Also, icky fingerprints on your precious clothing takes a backseat when you are trying to care for the love of your life 🙂
LOL @ TX Cinderella!!
Give me a break with your distance bitching and complaining. You have no idea of what schedule they keep. Just because she’s out late at night, doesn’t mean she’s up first thing int he morning.
Think about the kids of blue collar workers who work the swing shift. If they want to put their kids on their schedule, so that they can spend more time with them…so be it.
It’s not your kid and it really doesn’t matter what you think.
All I know is the child hadn’t had her hair brushed or wore a coat until she was almost four.
The odds are so stacked against Suri (despite, or because of having everything), it’s highly unlikely she’ll grow up a stable adult. She’ll have every advantage because she’s richer than God, but that can actually work to be her greatest disadvantage.
She’s a MegaBrat in training. I could see her going Naomi Campbell on people later in life — and to an even worse degree.
I feel bad for the kid. She’d stand a chance if Katie’d start acting like a mom and not a fembot.
And if Tom would leave the planet.
notpretentious, I’m with you – my daughter is also the exact same age as Suri,but their upbringings are worlds apart. That poor kid – I hope she turns out better than I expect.
Where are the social assistans???
I always wondered about celebrity kids being carried everywhere until I saw one of these pictures from a wider perspective. The paparazzi crowd around, jostling and yelling, and I imagine any parent’s first instinct is to pick up a child to protect her from being trampled underfoot.
lol@ Edith!!
Seriously tho, why isn’t CPS looking into these matters. It bothers me to no end that Suri is NEVER dress properly. I cant even stand to see my daughter without the covers on at night let alone barelegged in the WINTER!
I can’t wait until Suri hits her teen years! The goss is going to be insane! They have created a monster and don’t even seem to care so grab a bucket of popcorn – this will be great!
dinner by 6
bath by 7
bed by 8
every mother of a 4 yr old knows that, or at least that’s how i ran the show back then. it’s not brain surgery.
is she on meds or what? 🙁
I think Suri is going to be just fine. I LOVE this kid.
@The_Porscha
Holy shit balls. That website is crazy sad.
Actually on that cover Suri looks just like Kate. I agree with everyone that says kids needs guidance and direction, she will be out of control by the time she is 10.
I have a 5 year old son and he is NEVER up that late. Even on the weekends he is in bed by at least ten thirty. But my husband and i have on occasion kept him up late to go see the symphony or broadway plays. But it is def not a regular occurence. I think it is important for children to have culture in their lives but not at the expense of the consistency that all kids need. Suri is only 4 and she should be treated like a 4 year old. I think its her parents that need to grow up.
Wow! Such harsh criticism of a CHILD!
@Kaiser
Love the “dinner at 1 pm” typo. Totally picturing Suri morphing into an old lady that wants the early bird special and shows up too soon!
@33-why are you visiting if you haven’t read the name of the website?
Maybe these grandparents will stay on top of things now that the alarm bells have really gone off.
I remember hearing Katie’s dad is/was an attorney. I don’t think legal action is merited at this point, but there is no reason why her parents can’t keep a very close eye on what’s going on with their daughter and granddaughter.
Katie may be an adult, but she may be an adult who needs to be deprogrammed.
Creepy and sad.
Even if this stuff is only half true, it’s pretty clear that Katie is not an effective mother. They’re letting that kid grow into a spoiled monster, it’s a shame. I doubt the real world will ever come calling though, she will probably always live in a little well-funded Sciento-bubble.
Katie doesn’t seem to have any friends she hangs out with, which is probably why she treats her 4 year old this way. A 4 year old to that play? Out at all hours? It’s not good for either of them.
I guess that when we see Suri being carried with her pacifier, that’s an indication that she’s being treated as a “little adult?” No way should a child overrule a parent on the use of their car seat.
I do think that the little heels and dresses are cute and if I had a girl and that money, I’d let her have fun with her clothes too.
@Maritza: Never mind out of control by the time she’s ten, she is out of control now.
I think Katie carries Suri all the time because of the papparazzi. When Suri’s on set with Katie, you never see pictures of Katie carrying Suri around. I think it’s just a protective gesture.
Though, my parents would still carry me around up at times up until I was six.
Ditto Lucy 2 – neither Katie nor the kid have any friends. Definitely an unhealthy situation. Kids at that age love nothing more than to play with each other, not go to the the-a-ter with mums and her entourage.
This is the kind of crap that Scientology NEEDS to be called out on.
Children need choices, but not to be treated like adults. There is a BIG difference, and that dopey “religion” *coughcultcough* takes so many things to the EXTREME.
But come on, why are Katie Bots parents concerned NOW? They had to have known that Tom Cruise would raise ANY child of HIS as a Scientologist. And there was PLENTY of TRUTH about the CULT available when their precious daughter signed on.
While I do not approve katie and tom’s parenting style (children need a regular schedule) I do not think she is a Lilo or Paris in the making. I think she is more likely a Goopy in the making. She will go to NYU or Columbia, intern at a fashion magazine, travel the world, and write a blog telling us peasants how to wear our cat heels and princess dresses.
Samigirl! I’m with you 110% I do the same for my little Morgan who is 4.6 yrs old. She is thin and wiry like I was at her age. I just love her to pieces and I carry her sometimes…just because damnit!
I think people are making a big fuss over nothing. Yes when they’re in NYC, they do tend to go out late at night to see plays and things. But that’s just a snippet of their lives. I’ve noticed that when they’re in L.A., (which is where they primarily live) they seem to be more low key. Maybe seeing a broadway show or getting a late night dessert is just a special thing that they do once in a while.
There was a photo of Maddox Jolie-Pitt with a box of penis shaped candy awhile ago. Where do they buy this stuff?? Who gives that to their children?
Wow, some of you are quite snarky. I always laugh when I read what gets written in these forums. It’s as if everyone suddenly is on the inside of the celebrity’s life and knows them personally therefore giving them free reign to be judgemental. Just for the record, I’ve done my very best with my kids. They seem to be smart, well-rounded young people. I’d be lieing if I said I’d never made any mistakes along the way. I’m pretty certain that mistakes were made by ALL of us along the way. Judge not lest ye be judged.
Shes a beautiful little girl, but seems like a real brat!!! as far as the little heels go, my granddaughter is 7..and she wanted a pair for xmas last year, so she could play dress-up with her friends..so I got her a pair, but she doesn’t wear them to the store…
Only 4 years old and she has bitchface down to an art already!
Suri Cruise is my favorite Hollywood spawn. Agree with the poster who stated she’s more likely to be like Goopy as an adult – as opposed to La Lohan. I can deal with that.
Bare legs and feet when Mom is wearing a coat. Good Job. suri always seems vaguely unkempt and unwashed…kinda grubby. So does her mother.
Yes her parents are wackos but who really can say how Suri will turn out. On the other hand, that kid scares the bejesus out of me.
Hell, I have a 16 year old who has a 10 pm lights out rule on school nights because her high school starts so freaking early in the morning. If we let her, she’d stay up until 2 or 3 texting every night. She has to get up at 5:30!
If you let kids do whatever they want, of course they’ll stay up all night, eat candy for every meal, etc.
I actually feel sorry for kids who don’t have proper boundaries in their lives, placed there by loving adults who want to teach them. The WORLD eventually teaches them the things their parents did not, but the world doesn’t do it with love. Far from it.
A 4 year old child is not a waste of human flesh, no matter how insane her parents seem to be or how much lack of parenting seems to be obvious. Nor is she evil (even though she has a great side eye already). To be honest, if I had to be up at 1am consistantly, dragged around to see plays I’m probably too young for, I might be making some “evil” faces too.
I really hope the person that commented they wanted to box her in the face was talking about Katie and not this 4 year old child.
The child is not the one to blame for the late nights and innappropriate clothing. Blame the parent all you want but don’t attack the child who is too young to be responsible for her parents’ lack of judgement.
Suri is an only child who is spoiled to death by her rich parents which made her more juvenile than let’s say a Shiloh who behave more mature because she knows she is a big girl with younger siblings. Classic case.
Now the rest is pure speculation by the usual trashoid tabloids.
They should really stop with stories about children. when it’ not the JP’s, it’s Suri. Before that it was Britney’s kids when she had her demons to fight.
Leave the children out of this.
Marianne:@ I see what you mean and I don’t believe everything or even most stories that come from gossip rags but there has been a lot of photographic proof like Suri look cranky and scared and sleepy on her late nights with mom, walking around NY and Spain in heels, drinking out of a bottle, with a pacifier, wearing thin short PJ dress outside, wearing summer dress in winter, no coat on in the winter, out at 1 a.m./12 a.m. and even Suri throwing little temper tantrums.
Tori@ blue collar workers do not put their kids on their swing shift schedule I know many blue collar workers my ant being one she’s a correctional officer and her schedule changer all most daily but her two kids schedule doesn’t one in bed by 10 the other by 8 so do try to give that BS as an excuse for Suri being out tell 1/12 in the morning.
missy@ The time when Suri was out tell 1 a.m. they didn’t go to a play and all of these plays have earlier shows in which Katie can take Suri to. Katie took Suri to see “How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying” on Broadway which is not a child appropriate play for a 4 year old it look like something Katie wanted to see and took Suri with her for another late night instead of a friend, Katie has friend right?
@Sue, I said going out to a broadway show or a late-night dessert could be a special treat. I thought the photos of them out at midnight were taken at Serendipity, which is an all dessert restaurant in NY.
Maybe Suri looks “cranky” in some photos, because she doesn’t care for paps screaming and trying to shove cameras in her face.
I’m not necessarily defending the Cruises, because they have done some things that I don’t agree with. I just think it’s really creepy and disturbing to be discussing a child and making huge assumptions about her personality or how she’ll turn out when she’s older, simply based on tabloid stories and papparazzi pics.
Wearing heels all night and playing with X-rated candies? Conspiracy theories be damned – she truly is her father’s daughter!
Katie is a good mom. She is parenting Suri her way and I like her way. The most important thing is spending time with your child and Katie does this. Go Katie you are doing a good job. Suri looks happy and is very fortunate.
Nnn@ That not always the truth I’m 10 years older then my younger sister my older sister is 14 years older and my little sister always acted mature for her age at 9 months she was walking so she could get around with us she didn’t what her bottle or to be in dipper because she was big girl and at 1 she would tell you that and would cry if you called her a baby. Suir does not seem to be around her older sibling much with all the traveling she does with Katie so she missing out on that. The older kids seem to stay in LA and you never really see her with Tom they visit and stay for 2 to 3 weeks and then their gone or he leaves. When Suri was younger you couldn’t pass a picture with out seeing everyone together or Tom, Katie and Suri; in 2008 when Katie did “All My Sons” on Broadway it was more Katie and Suri less of every one together it kind of sad.
@MissAggravation – hahaha, love it!
@ nnn: Not trying to be a pain, because I hear what you’re saying. Just wanted to remind you that Suri is not an only child. Tom has two older children from his marriage to Nicole Kidman.
Kids are not adults. They can’t reason like we do. Katie is a loving mother, no doubt, but indulging Suri’s immaturity is poor parenting, bottom line.
missy@ You are right they did see “Serendipity” that night but if you look at picture from earlier that day Suri was fine with the paparazzi she was smiling and walking she look like she was having a fun time with her nanny later that night she look sleepy and scared of the paparazzi, my thing is if you know your child gets cranky and is more bothered by the paparazzi at night then in the day why not take her to an earlier show or because Katie had things to do take her another day it’s not like they couldn’t afforded it. I’ve never made assumptions about her personality or how she’ll turn out because I don’t know her but I can see why other people do most everyone knows or meet a child that was spoiled or has no boundaries and those children were either bratty or out of control teens.
I was curious about Scientology about a year ago because I was being inundated w/commercials of it on my TV. I looked it up on the internet, and BOY WAS I SHOCKED!!! The more I read, the more curious I was to know more, so, needless to say, I researched it THOROUGHLY. Scientology, even by L. Ron Hubbard’s OWN ADMISSION, was/is NOTHING BUT A VERY SUCCESSFUL SNAKE OIL PITCH FROM THE VERY VIVID IMAGINATION OF SCIENCE-FICTION WRITER HIMSELF, LRH. Hubbard was pleasantly surprised w/the success of his book, Dianetics..the fact that people could “cure themselves,” w/out the help of psychiatry was a novel idea when the book came out. LRH made SO MUCH $$$ off his voodoo ideas, he couldn’t HELP but continue the trend.
My only fear is that if Suri EVER develops a legitimate psychiatric condition, she WILL NOT get the help she needs (Bi-Polar Disorder, etc.). Scientologists think such disorders are an imbalance of “nutrition.” It’s VERY SCARY, indeed. My opinion is that Katie Holmes is so damn depressed all the time because she can’t exactly “get out” of Scientology or her marriage w/out EXTREME REPERCUSSIONS. So…she’s depressed, AND IT SHOWS in her pics. Very sad situation, indeed. I implore anyone who is “curious” about Scientology to look up on the internet the various testimonies of former members that got out..NOT w/out damage…they were blackmailed, bullied, stalked…very dangerous stuff. Even LRH’s OWN SON got out, and gave an interview to Playboy years ago. Anyone interested should look it up…A VERY GOOD READ..very informative.
To the people who say they hate Suri: WTF? Hating a child for her behaviors that are a direct result of bad, irresponsible parenting is like hating the dogs that were taught to fight or were hanged by Vick. Hate the abusers, not the abused! Her behavior is not her fault; had she been raised by parents who thought of her welfare first (instead of seemingly being treated by KH as a girlfriend, not a child), none of this would be and issue. KH has no friends b/c the “Tom-inator won’t allow it. Isolating his wife is how he controls her and he has obviously made some legal arrangement that would take Suri away from her mother if KH leaves him. Tom is a very dangerous and sociopathic man who is capable of seriously hurting his wife and child. Make way, Dr. Drew – you’ll soon have the youngest “celeb” on record to check into your show.
LOL @ TXCinderella & EdithP – too funny, ladies!
We’re not criticising THE CHILD; we’re criticising HER PARENTS. Get a grip!
When I was little, my bedtime was 7. When my older two were little, their bedtime was 7. When the baby is older, his bedtime will be 7. Fridays were different (as I got a little older), but not Saturdays, as we had church early on Sunday.
Rules and structure are in place for children for a reason: they need them.
@Sue My comments about making assumptions about Suri’s personality were not just directed at you. I was making a general statement in response to some of the commments on this site.
You mention that most people have met a bratty child, and those children turn out to be out of control teens. That may be true, but my point is, no one here has met Suri.
If I had cameras in my face like that all of the time, I’d probably still need a pacifier too.
@Nancy: I completely agree with everything you said. Nicely stated.
Well both parents are too weird, being in Scientology. Nicole Kidman was smart to get out of that marriage. Suri will be the next Wako TX wacko.
“independent individuals capable of
making their own decisions”
So if Suri decided to start drinking, smoking, having sex, hell, even killing people they would hold her to the same standards as an adult? I think not.
There are reasons that children need to learn the bounds of behaviour, so that as adults they have a healthy respect for the law and other people and even more so for their own safety; Little things like ‘don’t talk to strangers’ ‘look both ways before crossing the street’ ‘do not keep secrets from your parents’ ‘get a good nights sleep’ ‘eat your veggies’ ‘do unto others as you would have them do unto you’ ‘respect your elders’ ‘say no to drugs’ etc. these are things that children are not born knowing, they are not simply small adults, they need to be taught these things and giving into their every whim is a terrible idea.
Im sure Suri is fine. She gets whatever she wants- who wouldnt be fine with that!
A 4 year old using a pacifier and a bottle is not good. Its mentally and physically (her teeth) damaging.
Scientology spouses HIDEOUS child rearing techiniques so if they are following them in raising Suri it goes unsaid they arent parenting well.
L Rons own son says his father was never around because he was busy off having sex with very young boys on his yacht. Says he knew nothing about parenting and was a certifiable whack job & wouldnt take 1 dime from his father or the church before or after L Ron died. He wont have anything to do with scientology and says his dad created it to get rich. His own son people! Come on its such a crock!!! You have to be really desperate to believe in that crap!
Taylor B – exactly!!! Should they just hand her the car keys, some condoms and a bottle of scotch and say off you go you adult! Just buy her her own house and leave her there to raise herself since she is an adult. whack jobs!
The Scientology PR team is on a roll.
IF I read those quotes correctly it sounds as though Katie’s parents blame Tom.
Their daughter is every bit as responsible if not more so as she spends more time with Suri.
Nahla Aubrey is absolutely the most beautiful child in Hollywood. PERIOD.
Suri is just cute average looking and veeerrry spoiled kid.
Katie is lonely and Suri is her best friend. She is probably the only person she can trust even if she is a kid.
Suri will never have to worry about the “real world”.
@Chris I agree with the first statement but not so much the second. Eventually Suri is going to want to find some type of happiness/stability/validation outside of her family and church. And eventhough she is the daughter of Tom Cruise she is eventually going to come across the word no.And I am betting it won’t be pretty.
Katie seems to treat Suri as if she is a “girlfriend” or “bestie”, taking her to adult outings and during late PM hours. Katie is likely doing that b/c she lacks other friendships. Katie needs to expand her companion circles beyond her daughter, and focus on doing more age-appropriate things with little Suri.
There’s late night dessert (say, 9 or 10 pm) and then there’s closing-down-the-bars-with-drunk-hipsters late. I think the latter is pushing it for a 4-year-old. Especially if it involves gummy penises. But maybe I’m just a prude, who knows?
I bet no one can stand that kid. No she is not a good mom, if she were she would have taken all the time she has on her hands and done her job, the pacifier, the bottle, the penis candy would not have happened if she took care of her child. Tom and Katie act like Suri is their mother and they are the children. Guess this is how scientology raises brats that will have no respect for anything or anyone.
Who could hate the child for her parent’s failures. Hating a child is just wrong. Not her fault.
I honestly feel a little bad for Katie. I think she’s probably trying to do the best that she can from within the cult that she’s joined. Honestly, we all know Tom makes the rules, and his cult dictates that they treat her like an adult. I’m not surprised that she’s snuck her out for a couple of late shows while she’s away from Tom.
@DGO: Suri may not be an only child, but for all intents and purposes they seem to be raising her as one. You never see or hear of any interaction between her and her half-siblings. And her mother seems to treat her more as a peer than a child. I am willing to bet that child has never heard the word NO applied to her.
Don’t be too quick to judge her, those of us born in the 70’s had parents that weren’t all that bright either. I’ve seen plenty of family and friend photos with us toddlers holding bottles of beer and cigarettes. Anyone who thinks they are the perfect parents, then cast your stones now…….
You all know how I feel about CoS (they stole part of my family, and yes, they raise kids like adults), but…
My husband is a musician, now working for Cirque Du Soleil and my kids go to school on the site from 12pm to 6pm and I do let them stay up until almost midnight. Dad gets home at 11, and he wants to see his kiddos. He works 6 days a week, and that is the only time he gets to spend with them during the week. They don’t have to wake up until 10am. They are 11 and 13 mind you, but they’ve always stayed up a little later due to scheduling. However, I wouldn’t compromise their rest or schooling if they started school early.
I blame Cruise more than Holmes. She looks so “out of it” all the time (like she’s drugged and/or in a daze), I’m not sure she’s even capable of making sound decisions. And I don’t think she’s allowed to make any decisions that contradict scientology’s weird beliefs, even if she was capable of making them.
I can only hope she gets out of this marriage someday, and (unlike Nicole Kidman) is allowed to take her kid with her away from that poison environment.
@devilgirl: We are not criticizing a child. We are criticizing the way the child is being raised, which is a criticism of the parents not Suri.
@samigirl: I don’t find the “I have to hold him because he will run away” a valid argument since it’s ridiculous that a three-year-old (or almost five in Suri’s case) hasn’t been taught not to run away. If there are strict enough consequences to running away in public, the child will stop doing it.
@Grace, Actually there were plenty of posters who criticized the child. Some calling her a “waste of human flesh” and other nasty things.
BTW, why do you have a problem with a parent carrying their child for whatever reason?
Watch, in 15 years, she is going to be the female version of Charlie Sheen-shooting people, beating them up, holding knives to their necks when they tell her “no.”
It is so sad that they have destroyed any chance of this child ever being happy and well-adjusted-another Hollywood tragedy.
If Katie had married Dawson instead of Pacey this whole thing never would have happened.
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The commenter up thread who referred to this four-year-old child as a “waste of space” is every bit as fucked up as Scientology and its brainwashed flock. Are Tom and Katie doing Suri a tremendous disservice by raising her without any apparent regard for rules and boundaries? Absolutely. But anyone who feels justified in tearing a little child to shreds is a miserable piece of shit, pure and simple.
@Grace: What missy said.
When Suri was up until 1am, is there any chance she had jet lag? It would have been 10pm in Vancouver or LA if that was their last location. It can’t be easy to adjust a 4 year-old to a change in time zone.
Just another story in the Hollywood life they don’t have to live by the same rules as the rest of the world.. If this was any other Mom, at the slightest hint of misconduct CPS would have swooped in.. Penis candy really? Up all hrs of the nite NO way! Not dressing the children properly outrageous…. But that is only for people of the real world CPS can’t touch people in Hollywood. Sad so sad.
#100 Tiffany: what an awesome life that must be for your kids! and I love, love Cirque. Being 11 and 13 and waking up later is great too, kids have a more “later” schedule at that age, and most start times of junior and high schools don’t reflect that.
#93 Anon: totally agree. You never see Katie papped with a gf. While being a parent and setting boundaries is instinctual for most, I do get a lot of tips on child rearing from my gf’s. You kind of learn from each other, in addition to how you yourself were parented. Something is clearly lacking there beyond the CoS excuse.
Sadly, I’m not a parent, but I just see a bizarre future for this little girl. Children shouldn’t be given everything they want or they will become spoiled. A child never told no grows up to be a Paris Hilton or Lindsay Lohan.
Judge not lest ye be judged.
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says the person judging others. I love irony.
I get that people may not like or agree with how Tom and Katie raise THEIR child. but come on people. She is a 4 year old baby. She is a child. Calling her the “b” word is a bit much.
I’m not a fan but not a hater so to speak. I just cringe when grown up use such language talking about a baby..
How do you go to that place.
@Tiffany: 11 and 13 is not the same as 4 1/2. And from what you said, your kids seem to keep to a regular routine otherwise. (BTW lucky you if your hubby’s job gets you free tickets to the Cirque! I LOVE that show!)
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@Poopie: Calling a child a spoiled brat is one thing; calling her a waste of human flesh is something else altogether. That was foul.
TRT: Nahla Aubrey is absolutely the most beautiful child in Hollywood. PERIOD.
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Not quite. Did you ever see Chris Noth’s little boy?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cheray_smith/2804770516/
katie can’t handle the pressures of what parenting means so she gives into the whims of a child. Kids, are not able to make well informed choices, hell neither are some adults. But I guess she doesn’t have to care when she gets to spend all of Tom’s money and get acting jobs cause of her martial status. Get a real grip on your child.
she’s gonna go Peaches Geldof on them at 14….
I would love to be a fly on the wall in their house when she starts dating
There are plenty of other ways to introduce a child to “culture” without dragging them out to late night shows.
And trust me, the rest of the theater will likely thank you for leaving your kids at home, instead of having an overtired child kicking seats, whining or needing some electronic and distracting to others device to keep them entertained in the meantime.
Lack of sleeps f*cks children up, full stop, there is no argument that can possibly negate the reality of this. Sorry to overly-permissive ‘friendy’ mums who don’t know how to act in the basic best interests of both their children and everyone who will ever have to deal with them in later life. That’s not even a judgement on my part, it’s just scientific fact.
So keeping your kid up to 1am can be characterized as abusive. How and when we ever got to the point as a society that this sort of parenting was even countenanced is amazingly obscure to me. I was in bed at 7.30 every night, no excuses, until I was a tween, and I am thankful for that every day.
Poor Suri. That kid has a snowflake’s chance in hell, surrounded by those freaking nutters.
Throwing myself to the wolves here but my toddler doesn’t have a bed time. She does, however, get plenty of sleep. Plenty. Just not at normal hours. We’ve always had a laid back parenting style towards scheduling, but it works for us. My husband works nights and her schedule has just kind of revolved around our schedule to spend more time with her. When she starts pre-school things will have to change. She will be on a “regular” schedule then.
That being said, she is far from an adult and doesn’t make decisisons for herself. We just happened to make a rather unconventional one regarding her bed time.
To a casual observer, Katie is a piss poor parent without any boundaries. It’s not the isolated things, everyone has a day when their child is up too late, or dressed inappropriately for the weather, or has picked out our wardrobe, or is holding a box of tiny penises. It happens to the best of us. It’s the overall picture that this child’s mother is extremely permissive, has vacant eyes and montone expression and this is the ONLY way she parents that makes me think that Suri is going to grow up to be a self entitled b*tch. Maybe not a Lohan wannabe because I think Scientology is too controlling, but an egomaniac none the less. And I will eat crow if I’m wrong. But I’m not wrong.
I have some expertise in this area so I will respond. I have 5 children and 10 grandchildren all happy good citizens who also had wonderful childhoods. It is my opinion that to maintain bounderies for children keeps their childhood happy and carefree. I can see in this little girls face that she is concerned and has fears of things she doesn’t understand and shouldn’t have to. And of all the bounderies that are security based wearing a seatbelt is at the top of the list. I had one granddaughter that at two would just have a fit about car seats. I pulled into a safe area and told her the car would not run without her being in her car seat. The truth is it wouldn’t because I would not drive with a child not restrained in a car seat. I loved my granddaughter and I certainly would not take a chance with her life. She never gave me a problem about her car seat after that. I reinforced that each time she tried to get out or her seat.
I am all for letting a kid be (mostly) self-directed, but car seats are non-negotiable. And Suri is nearly 5 years old (her birthday is in a few weeks) – old enough that temper tantrums should be a rare occurence. Yeesh! Even I managed to get my tantrum-prone, autistic 2 year old into her car seat. The rest of the stuff doesn’t really matter too much (choosing her clothes, sucking on a pacifier, even staying out late on occasion), but as a parent you can’t write off your own failure to keep your kid safe as some sort of alternative-parenting choice.
By today’s standards, she’s mother-of-the-decade, but by normal, caring standards she SMELLS!!! In 25 years, this kid will either be a serial killer or have been in therapy for 20 years.
In Katie’s defense… at least about the 1:00 a.m. thing, they may try and keep Suri on the same schedule no matter what time zone it is. Since they live on the west coast, it was really 10 p.m. (which is definitely late) but with a late nap so they could go see a show or something I don’t think it is that big of a deal. Suri isn’t in school so she probably gets to sleep as late as wants anyway.
I am confused about this place selling adult candy, is it just a regular store with the p*nis candies out for everyone to see?
*** To all the Suri supporters out there who say don’t believe all you read… I agree for the most part…What I’m left wondering is why that every time you see them in NYC that child rarely has a coat on while the parents are bundled up from the cold….In this one pix Mom is bundled up and the kid has a spring jacket on…Nothing on her legs, not even socks just heels…..
As for the penis candy, someone posted how kids will pick up anything…Hey, since when do you bring your children to an adult toy store ?
I don’t care if it was for research for a part or a bachelorette party…They employ enough people I’m sure that kid could have stayed in the hotel room or the dam car with the friggn Nannie…
All they are managing to do is provide past precedence and a paper trail for Welfare case workers…
Suri is 4 years old & still sucks on a pacifier??? I guess she still wears diapers too!!! In one way they treat her like an adult, in another way they treat her like a baby!!! Just sayin’!!!
Who really knows what goes on here – the kid looks happy & healthy!!! Sure she gets All. Can’t stand the parents!!!
Cheyenne, thanks for that link, Chris North’s little boy is beautiful but Nahla is still the most gorgeous kid in Hollywood with her unique skin color, curly hair, blue eyes …. Really amazing features and the best she could possibly get from her parents.
Any chirch that expects from me to let my child dance on my head is immedeately to disappear from my house!
As for the poor girl I don’t know where to start so I’d rather leave it altogether.
So what? She still have her pacifier, boo hoo. She like heels, whaaaaa. She is out on the town with ther mother, sniffles I need a hanky. She is 4 years old, she is too young to be damaged by incidents like this few occurences, but old enough to have fond memories of times like these. Let mother and daughter enjoy their quality time together.
@ holly – she is definitely old enough to be damaged by this. Children this age need firm and consistent parenting, as well as being loved and nurtured. Not knowing when you’re supposed to be sleeping or awake, late nights to the theatre to see shows that wouldn’t even interest her, being dressed up constantly and judged on her appearance – all of these things will leave a mark with this girl. Dressing up in heels is fine when it is fun dress-up time but when this is your expected day-to-day nursery outfit, it’s too much – and it will do her growth and development no good. Having a pacifier won’t ‘damage’ her but it isn’t age-appropriate – none of this is.
But the main problem isn’t Suri, it’s Katie. Seriously, if I was going out for an evening meal, catching a show at the theatre etc, I would want to enjoy it with one of my girlfriends. But it seems to me that in Fortress Cruise, Katie probably isn’t allowed any non-cult friends her age, just the friends that Tom handpicks as suitable for her. Therefore, she’s dressing up this little Mini-me and trawling her round town because she doesn’t have any friends of her own and she sees Suri as her ally. It’s sad, but Suri will definitely be as damaged as Prisoner Katie when she grows up.
@ Sassy. Cosign
@ SHump. Cosign
@Benny. Cosign
Scientology is a dangerous cult. Its sad what Cruise has done to Katie. She was so fresh and wide open with so much potential. I bet her parents are totally, secretly devestated about what’s happened to their daughter, but don’t say anything for fear of being cut off. When (hopefully) Katie falls, and looks for the exit, I think her parents will be able to swoop in and truely help. They seem like really good, strong people. I bet the minute they saw how things were going down, daddy doubled up on cult and anti-brainwashing books.
@Lisa. She isn’t a baby. Please. By 1yr a kiddo knows how to work their parents. That’s why boundaries are so important. What a child wants is not always safe, or right for them.
Its like driving on a street with road work going on. Without signs, we wouldn’t see all the danger. I don’t want to detour, I want to go straight. But straight is not safe, so the people who know prevent me from taking a dangerous route.
A loving parent creates safe boundaries within which the child can learn and grow and see how the world works. As the child grows, so do the boundaries, until the child has grown to an adult that can create his or her own safe and appropriate boundaries. The world is not a safe place, and a child is not a miniature adult.
Shame on this cult. They are ruining lives. Reads scientologykids.com (ithink that’s the website).
This kid will be so f#cked up 🙁
I’m sorry, but there have been one or two children that I just didn’t like. I felt bad about it, but I just didn’t like them. And I’m with marjalane, I don’t like Suri either. I call her Surly because she hardly ever looks happy. Do I blame her? Not really. I blame her parents with their weird ass Scientology child rearing techniques.
But NO child who’s almost five should be walking around with a binky or playing with penis candy. To say her mother had no clue that she had the candy is ridiculous as she was holding her at the time. And these photos were, what, two or three days apart?
And you know what? Her parents don’t have to schlepp her around when they know there’s paparazzi. I’m sure she has a Scientonanny who could take her out to play, OR they could leave her home. But wait, they can’t say no to her.
And I’m going to weigh in on the cutest kid debate, and while Nahla is a worthy candidate for cutest kid in Hollywood, I would also like to nominate Violet Affleck and Amy Poehler’s little boy, Archie!
u know what solves a tantrum a butt swat
i still say she was already preggers when they out of the blue started dating which would make suri chris kleins kid and katie just another of toms beards
My girl is turning 6 tomorrow and I have, on occasion, taken her to cocktail parties with me (and I mean like maybe once every 6 months) where we will stay until 10pm tops, which is totally inappropriate of course. But I think it is okay very occasionally. Also, I’m a single mother (perhaps like Katie?) so 1) no one is going to stay home with her and 2) she knows Mom’s friends, who all adore her, so we have fun for the hour or two that we are there.
That said, I didn’t take her ass to Serendipity when we were in NYC last week, that shit is too fucking trendy.
Maybe she is afraid the cult will take the child in the middle of the night and kick her to the curb, like they did to Nicole. Maybe she doesn’t sleep because of this fear and that is why she looks like a zombie. Maybe she is just trash and it carries over to her parenting. I wonder if when Suri looses her baby teeth she will still be sticking that nasty binky in her mouth causing her to have buck teeth like her dad.
Where is Tom? Where is the family life you see with Angelina and Brad but not with Tom, Katie and Suri?
Tom Cruise makes even Ben Affleck look like Mr. Mom and anyone who knows a Southie knows this is quite a feat!
If that was someone else’s daughter, child protective services would be all over it. So my question is “Why are they not doing their job?” That poor little girl is going to be a junkie or worse.
Also, the man who invented scientologys wife wrote a book about it. She said he only started it to scam money out of people. He was a very abusive man. But yet these starts follow him around like he’s a god. It just shows everyone how ignorant they are. You don’t need brains to act….lol
Look, I’m no TomKat fan and I am definitely not a fan of the CoS’s insane outlook on bringing up children. But, in Katie’s defense, I don’t think letting a child stay up late on occasion is all that damaging.
My parents are freelancers and often worked odd hours. Thus, I never really had a bedtime. I was frequently up late enough to watch reruns of The Rockford Files with my dad (or as I called them, “RockoFiles”) and I turned out fine! In fact, I was moved to a magnet school for gifted children during grade school. I consistently tested in the top 5% of students in my school district all throughout my years in public school. I was eventually chosen to be a foreign exchange student. The point is, I don’t think my lack of a proper bedtime as a child has ever hurt me in life.
That said, I am concerned about this child going out in open toed heels in winter. That’s much more disturbing to me than her being up at 1:00am.
That’s a strange picture of Suri and Katie — Katie has the features of a little girl. I keep thinking children raising children, as if she was a small town girl who married her cousin at the age of 12, but she was in her mid- twenties when she married Cruise Control and is now 30! It’s a little uncanny.
I’m continually stunned by these celebs who carry their post-toddling kids. i do know youngsters that tiny is slow walkers, however the quantity they get carried, i’m wondering if they even will walk. Plus, icky kiddie ugg prints on my garments would place me into orbit.
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Suri is a spoiled brat!!! This scientology is STUPID!!!!! Katie Holmes is the worst mother ever!!!!! Suri will grow up to be brittney Spears
Suri will turn into a rotten teenager if she keeps up the same behavior. Suri should be treated like a NORMAL child NOT a princess.
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