Catherine Deneuve is 67 years old and while it’s clear she’s had a face lift (which she admits to) or three she doesn’t look completely plastic, unnaturally waxy or puffed up. It’s amazing how great she looks, especially when you consider that she still smokes like a chimney. The legendary French actress even lit up during a photocall for her film Les Bien-Amies (The Beloved) in Cannes.
This looks trashy to my American eyes, but I used to live right next to France and I realize that those bitches smoke much more than we do. It’s culturally acceptable to smoke there and in Europe in general, although I wish for the sake of people’s health that all countries were as intolerant of as the US. That’s about all I’ll say on that topic. Catherine wants you to know that’s she not about to hide her habit and that she’ll smoke during a photocall if she pleases. At least she didn’t smoke at the premiere. Oh wait I’m wrong. (I really wrote that before I realized I was wrong.)
I’m not really familiar with the rest of the actors in this movie, although I googled this chick in the doily dress, Ludivine Sagnier, and I saw that bizarre movie Swimming Pool in 2003 and she was the naked girl in that. From what I can find she’s not pregnant at this point so there’s really no excuse for that dress.
Chiara Mastroianni, the woman with the dark hair below, is Catherine Denueve’s 39 year-old daughter, can you believe it? She looks like Katie Holmes’ long lost sister. There’s something awkward about her, just like Katie too. Maybe it’s the t-shirt paired with a pencil skirt.
Photocall photos credit: Jean Catuffe/Pacific Coast News. Premiere/closing ceremony photos credit: WENN.com.
Seems tacky, but if it’s no big deal there, then I guess who cares. It’s not like she’s glamourizing it for the younger crowd or anything. To each her own, I guess.
She has smoked for decades. Maybe the younger actors can take a look at her and stop smoking. Nothing ages women worse than smoking. Sure, the sun’s UV rays, but smoking adds sallowness.
Hard to believe Benicio was in a long term serious relationship with Chiara before his Traffic days and now he’s expecting a child with Kimberly Stewart.
She was beautiful blonde.http://people.famouswhy.com/images/tbenicio_del_toro_image4.jpg
Meh, I don’t care.
I don’t smoke and never have, and I hate the way it makes your hair and clothes smell, but what I hate more is this movement to demonise smokers and ban them from…everything, basically. The hate for smokers, like the hate for fur, sometimes seems to be a knee-jerk hysteria that seems far more shocking and intolerant than the behaviour to which it is a reaction. (Not in the case of this post, obviously; but no doubt the comments will provide plenty of examples in due course!)
If Catherine Deneuve wants to spark up, fine. There are worse things in the world than cigarettes.
Here in England I’ve been hassled by drunks in the street, in bars, on trains, more times than I can remember – been threatened and had beer cans thrown at me, and been afraid for my life because of other people’s drinking. Say what you like about cigarettes, but nobody ever told me they were going to rape me when we got to the next train stop because they’d been smoking all day, you know what I mean?
Sometimes I wonder if maybe they banned the wrong drug…
Smoke if you like, but it’s vile. She sort of looks like a linebacker now, by the way. But the aging process sucks, generally.
@ Shay Totally agree. Cigarettes and tanning will ruin one’s skin faster than anything. You’d think that someone who works in an industry where physical appearance is so important would know better. But I guess vice is like that.
I suppose the opposite of Deneuve would be Adjani who kept her incredible looks for such a long time. Of course, she outright stated that she avoided the sun like the plague.
Go pale, girls.
EDIT: @ Lenore smoking is not as dangerous as drinking, at least in my opinion; but it is disgusting and unhealthy. I hated it when mr. almond lights up one. Even though I banish him outside he still comes back smelling like a chimney. Secondhand smoking is also a big disadvantage. I hate it when I go out to eat and I’m surrounded by clouds of smoke. However, I wouldn’t go as far as to say that it’s as bad as drinking. Smokers keep their wits about them even at two packages a day; can’t say the same thing for those imbibe two six-packs a day. Oh, and I’m from Europe, if it’s at all relevant.
wow, her daughter could pass for her sister. (not good for 39)
Catherine Deneuve can do no wrong.
Agreed — Deneuve is truly fabulous.
I think Catherine Deneuve is always a lengend, no matter what. Give the fact she used to be a big-time beauty, I admire her attitude towards aging– she cares a little but not too much. Yes she had a face-lift but let herself blown up like a balloon as any natural woman would like. I don’t appreciate those actresses who starve themselves or exercie too much.
I saw her once in the streets. She walked by herself in a very casual way. God, this woman is full of confidence and grace. I really love her.
@Almond,
I saw Adjani in a restaurant in my Parisien neighborhood. She is over-botoxed to hell. Until the waitress pointed to me in secret, I wouldn’t recognize her at all.
I was never uptight about people smoking around me in the past. But I absolutely love non smoking laws since as I get older I’ve become more and more sensitive to smoke. It’s gross and why should someone’s disgusting habit affect my health? I am even in favor of the new law in NY that prevents people from smoking on the sidewalk because it’s gross to walk down the street and get a cloud of smoke blown in your face by some inconsiderate passerby. And yes despite being beautiful Catherine would be more gorgeous without the cigarette.
Smoking only looks sexy when a young glamorous lady poses – freeze frame – with one lit. The look a person gives when sucking on a cigarette is so utterly disgusting, esepecially the older one gets. I often wondered why no decent guy approached me during my smoking days when I had one lit up. People are blind to the fact, it is a lot like picking your nose – it is awful to look at!
i don’t care:she smokes since some decades ,she doesn’t glamorize smoking, she’s not a teen idol and smoking isn’t prohibiting in France even if it’s not good for the health
Good lord lady its a cigarette. She is not molesting a small animal. Are you kidding?
Catherine Deneuve has never apologized for smoking.I think it’s her “trade mark” just like Elizabeth Taylor’s comming late.
I saw CD in person — our faces were inches apart for an extended period of time. She’s seriously beautiful close up (and very gracious) and her skin is freaking flawless. I’m sure I’d look like a hag if I smoked and was pushing 70. But I suppose she has good genes and apparently a no-chicken-cutlets-or-rubber-face approach to plastic surgery.
She’s a french legend, she can do whatever she wants!
@Lenore I’m with you. I support non-smoking laws but I despise this histeria around every picture of someone smoking.
yeah… because smoking is the worst thing you can do…
just chill.
if she wants to smoke let her smoke. if you don’t like it don’t stand close to her.
i don’t like when i’m having a meal and someone’s smoking next to me so that’s why my hubby and smokers friends don’t smoke right after they’ve finish eating. they wait until everyone has finished.
this happens when we’re at home. most restaurants don’t allow smoking in the room but if i happen to be in a place where smoking is allowed i just deal with it or go to somewhere else.
i prefer being in a room with smokers and stoners (i’m an open stoner) than drunk @sses that became violent and stupid.
Didn’t Catherine said that phrase “after a certain age, you have to choose between your face or you ass”? That’s probably the reason why – facelift or not – she’s still very good looking: the extra weight keeps her face fuller.
Her daughter Chiara looks SO MUCH like her father, Marcello Mastroianni! Handsome lady.
@Almond – re: being European – it’s relevant inasmuch as anti-smoking laws, and attitudes, vary by country. As others have said, Deneuve is French – it’s not a big deal to smoke in France. (Though I was recently astonished to see a man interviewed – outdoors – on the English news, while smoking. So I guess it’s more shocking to me than it used to be!)
I was reading on the news this morning about a plan to ban smoking in outdoor public places – beaches, streets, parks – in NYC, and the comments from some Americans interviewed about how vile and wrong smoking is were SO over the top, I’m thinking, “You’re kidding, right? They’re smokers, not Nazis.” [/godwin]
Then again, the pro-smoking rally can go a little nuts themselves. It’s a cigarette. Smoking in public doesn’t make you a rebel and it doesn’t make you Gandhi, and if someone asks you politely to put it out, that doesn’t make you an oppressed minority.
I want a middle-of-the-road campaign: “FFS – IT’S JUST A CIGARETTE!” Works either way. 🙂
It’s definitely European thing, and don’t stone me when I say this but with a cig she looks incredibly sexy (to me) and yes we do smoke much more here
If I lived in New York I would be more concerned about all the exhaust fumes you breath in every second of the day, then about the occasional cloud of cigarette smoke that blows your way.
Can’t say that I see the big deal.
I have to tell you, the way some nonsmokers go on about how smokers are “disgusting” is a bit much – people calling those who do it trashy, low-class, etc. I hate smoke, am very sensitive to it, have never been a smoker myself, but people way overreact to it. I think even if you hate the habit, it’s unseemly to go on about how yucky it is. What would you think of a person who went on about how “disgusting, trashy, vile” overweight people were in their eyes? Is it cool to pile on about that? In my opinion, it’s not cool to slam anyone’s legal health habits. They’re not shooting up heroin and robbing stores.
She’s French, she’s in France; who cares?
@ Lenore – Very well said!
She Deneuve, she’s in France, she gets to do what she wants.
@Theuth: I think it was Kathleen Turner who made the “face or ass” comment, but she may have been quoting someone.
I don’t mind the smoking. I have friends who smoke, one that smokes A LOT, but I haven’t smoked…because it gets expensive. And when you’re in grad school you have to choose between things that are expensive (e.g., cigarettes) and things that you NEED (e.g., food….hot pockets).
So meh. Also, I love how older people are so set in their ways that they don’t give a crap what people think about their behavior ha. It’s really interesting.
@ Canuck most people attribute the face or ass comment to Deneuve, that rule didn’t work to well for Turner.
Ditto to all the above comments re the ridiculous demonising of smokers.
@mln76, I totally agree. I have severe asthma, and walking through a cloud of smoke can trigger an awful asthma attack.
@Lenore, I respect your opinion, but in my case it’s the opposite. I can defend myself against a drunk idiot pretty easily (I study karate and kobudo), but it’s much harder to defend myself against someone else’s cigarette smoke. It’s not as if I can just hold my breath, particularly if I am stuck somewhere with a person insisting upon smoking.
Although I’ve long since quit smoking I still say god save us from American nannies/do gooders/bullies. Yech. There’s no sanctimony like good ol’ American sanctimony…
I guess she was quoting Deneuve too then 🙂 Turner had some major health problems that pretty much destroyed her body, so she gets a free pass as far as I’m concerned.
She’s CATHERINE F*cking DENEUVE!! She’s in Cannes. She can do WHATEVER she wants.
meh. smoking is nasty and smells awful, but i’m not one to flip out because someone smokes. as long as it’s not in my house i don’t really care.
also, what is it about french women? they are always chic and beautiful, even when they aren’t.
I agree with GeekChic (# 30). I’ve dealt with both (drunks and smokers) and can honestly say it’s often much harder to deal with a smoker, especially because they often believe it’s “harmless if they’re smoking outdoors” — even if they’re against the wind and there are other people near them.
Another thing that bothers me is that *I’m* the one supposed to ask them politely (to put their cigarettes out), when it should be the other way around: *THEY* should have the decency of not smoking next to people who aren’t smoking.
And I really don’t want to bring this kind of discussion here, but since it was mentioned…no, the reaction towards smokers can’t be described as the same about fur. Because, give me a f*cking break, it is not! Even though I can’t stand smoke/smokers/cigarette butts, even though I think most of them behave as if they didn’t give a flying f*ck about those who don’t smoke, smokers are basically harming themselves — as long as they don’t smoke anywhere near a non-smoker (one can only wish) they’re the ones who will suffer in the future from smoking related diseases (that are really really nasty).
The fur industry harms innocent, defenseless animals — that are killed in the most cruel ways imaginable for the sake of fashion.
The reaction towards smokers may be over the top, the one towards fur is still not strong enough, in my opinion.
@Lenore on the NYC law I agree with it, for health reasons but also because a lot of the litter on beaches and in parks are cigarette butts. Why should a bankrupting city pay for the cleanup???
EDIT:Oh and the fur thing is a separate fish altogether. Smoking should be one persons choice to abuse themselves ( I don’t care what you do to yourself but don’t do it around me and that includes public places, and smokers stop being arrogant about your rights to smoke in public places I have a right to breathe clean air). Fur is something done to innocent bystanders.
Nasty. I have a co worker who lost part of one lung and almost her life to her husband’s second hand smoke.
I hate when people climb up on their high horse and preach to others about smoking. I am a respectful smoker, if someone doesn’t like being smoked around, I don’t smoke around them. But NO ONE has the right to tell me what I should or should not, can or can not do. It’s legal so f*ck off, I’m lighting up.
Cars pollute way more than cigarettes. I know many a smoker who ride bikes and live an otherwise environmentally conscious lifestyle. Banning smoking is a huge double standard imo.
And many filters are biodegradable. Plastic is much much more harmful to the environment. Oh, and what about the oil companies? We let these companies ruin the environment but god forbid let people smoke????
@normandes there are laws that control the emission of car pollutants I wish they were stricter but they do exist. I am glad that there are healthy smokers but there are also people who suffer from asthma, allergies, and other conditions that make it hard for them to be around smoke in public.
@Eve and mln76, totally agree about the fur thing. I wish people were more disgusted with fur and more vocal about it. Fur isn’t even in the same ballpark as smoking, even to me as a severe asthmatic who could die from cigarette smoke.
@normandes did you know that cigarette smoke causes 10 times more pollution that diesel car exhaust???
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/12481.php
@ everyone – Smokers should be polite about it. I am an occasional smoker, and I would never, EVER light a cigarette without asking anyone around me if they mind. Likewise, I DETEST walking through a cloud of smoke to get INTO or OUT OF a place of business – take your toxins away from the damn door!
(Which probably sounds extremely hypocritical, but at the very least, be a considerate smoker.)
@Lenore – “I don’t smoke and never have, and I hate the way it makes your hair and clothes smell, but what I hate more is this movement to demonise smokers and ban them from…everything, basically. The hate for smokers, like the hate for fur, sometimes seems to be a knee-jerk hysteria that seems far more shocking and intolerant than the behaviour to which it is a reaction.”
I realize this isn’t the case with *everyone*, but my brother has Cystic Fibrosis (a severe genetic lung disease). He’s on the *best* end of the spectrum, has lived a completely normal, active life, but this isn’t the case with *most* who suffer this disease.
We used to always have a horrible time trying to avoid cigarette smoking out in public (restaurants, right outside the doors, ect). He can’t be around it under ANY circumstances (& I have asthma as well.) I’m not trying to ‘demonise’ smokers, or step all over someone’s right to choose to do it. & I do agree that as far as being dangerous to other people, drinking is much more dangerous. (Smoking has a more longterm risk.)
I just don’t think someone should have to tolerate the risks of second-hand smoking. But I also believe the decision of whether or not to allow smoking should be the decision of the store/restaurant/area. Most are going to opt for ‘non-smoking’, for the sake of profit alone, most likely.
@mln76: That so-called “experiment” quoted in your linked article has to be a joke. Read it carefully and then read the few responses to it.
Smokers are indeed demonised to a ridiculous degree. As for “walking through a cloud of smoke” to get into a building, I have never seen such a thing no matter how many smokers are outside a building, no matter how still the air is. Cigarette smoke does not linger in the outside air, it disperses and is as close to harmless as anything could possibly be – outside.
She looks better than her daughter does. I can’t stand the smell but to each his own. So her prerogative.
@ Claude – I live in Cali, and let me tell you: there is most definitely smoke lingering outside entrances to buildings here, if only because there are so many smokers congregated outside said buildings. Despite ordinances stating smoking must be done 100 (or 200, whatever) feet from entrances.
Like I said, just be considerate of others when you smoke.
Who cares, as long as the people around her don’t have problem with smoke she can do whatever she wants.
That is a very unfortunate picture of Chiara, she’s the daughter of CD and Marcello Mastroianni, she cannot be that ugly.
I think most people are turned off by the arrogance of some smokers. I think it’s horribly rude to just light up and not be considerate of those around you. I could give a damn if you smoke, but I have asthma and smoke triggers an attack. I shouldn’t have to suffer an asthma attack just because you have the “right” to light up. I have no problem letting someone know that they can’t smoke near me. I am very polite about it and only become rude if my request is dismissed. And yes, cigarette smoke does linger. It might not be an actual cartoon cloud hanging overhead, but it certainly doesn’t dissipate instantly.
@min76: Cigarette smoke may be more harmful than diesel exhaust, but the vast majority of vehicles in the US are not diesel.
There’s no answer to this debate. As long as there are smokers (and that includes you stoners) there will be people who hate it. And the people who hate it will annoy someone else with their fur wearing ways. We each have an opinion as to which is worse. So, the best thing is for EVERYONE to be respectful. And don’t get on me about that. If you are an outlier on the bell curve spectrum, then expect to have to deal. It’s the way it is.
bellaluna: I remain respectfully skeptical about the description of “clouds” around entryways because as I said, I’ve never seen it. You use the word ‘lingering’ which may be more accurate. I agree there could be a lingering smell, especially in an enclosed area regularly used for smoking but clouds…?
Mind though, I’ve seen photos of pot smoke haze in the air at 420 events but that’s right after hundreds or thousands of people lit up simultaneously. So you’re right, volume has a lot to do with it. Overall there is a significant difference in quantity and quality between tobacco and traffic particulates. Neither is good but tobacco smoke is simply not a significant factor in outdoor pollution problems.
As nasty as some of these starlets flashing their wrinkly vaginas? Nope. As nasty as a man fucking 12 + women behind his wife’s back? No.
No. Smoking only marginally nasty when compared to most human behaviour.
I think there should be mutual tolerence. I am a smoker and wouldn’t think of lighting up in someone’s house or without asking if it bothered people nearby. On the other hand, if we were provided with a place to smoke, no need to linger at building entrances etc.
@ClaudeYooka there are several sources that back the information including WebMD which I find reputable. The idea that because you can no longer see the smoke it’s no longer harmful is really not logical. Smoke causes cancer and the amount of chemicals in ciggy smoke is astounding. If it’s your choice to inhale those chemicals fine but smokers in public (Especially in cities) should be aware of the effect that their bad habit causes to people surrounding them. I get that it’s legal but there should be consideration for others. Smokers have the right to smoke in their home away from other people but not right in other people’s space.
quoting mln: “The idea that because you can no longer see the smoke it’s no longer harmful is really not logical.”
No it isn’t, and I would never say it and didn’t say it. LOL. I’m saying tobacco smoke outdoors is completely and utterly moot in comparison and against traffic particulates. Just traffic particulates, alone. Against all harmful pollution generated by human activities OUTDOORS, it is not even on the map. To suggest otherwise is not logical and beggars common sense.
@ mln76:
Your article is based on a dubious Italian test that has been much quoted. Yes, smoking is bad for you and the environment, but it is NOT worse for the environment than cars.
“Transportation is the largest single source of air pollution in the United States. It causes over half of the carbon monoxide, over a third of the nitrogen oxides, and almost a quarter of the hydrocarbons in our atmosphere”
http://www.ucsusa.org/clean_vehicles/vehicle_impacts/cars_pickups_and_suvs/cars-trucks-air-pollution.html
“Smoking accounts for 1 to 1.3 percent of the fine particle mass in the atmosphere in LA.”
http://www.nytimes.com/1994/08/09/science/smokers-add-to-los-angeles-smog.html
Seriously, would you rather sit in a garage for an hour with a smoker or with an SUV with the exhaust running?
@Claude & normandes I will say this…Walking down the street going to work at least once a month someone turns around and blows smoke directly in my face because I am behind them on the sidewalk, causing me to cough and feel ill, and I am sure they call themselves ‘polite smokers'(and none of them have ever apologized BTW). No one has ever shoved my face in an exhaust pipe.
It seems to me there are SO MANY more things this country should be dealing with than passing laws against SMOKING. When my daughter was in kindergarten, a teacher said only drug dealers and criminals smoke, and since my mom smokes, I had to explain to her that no her grandma was not a drug dealer. I have known several people PERSONALLY, who died of lung cancer who NEVER SMOKED, and the whole frenzy against smokers makes me want to move to europe where people dont seem so judgemental about so many things that are no one elses business. When I drive around, I see so many people smoking in their cars because thats the only place they can smoke without someone having a problem with it. I know in a lot of apartment buildings (at least here in Austin) you cant even smoke in your own home! That is just ridiculous. Get over it people. Like other people have said – its not robbing banks or shooting heroin – or boinking anything that moves when you have a perfectly good wife at home.
nasty BUT her perogative.
The woman is still STUNNING….
Viva la France!
@mln
“Smokers have the right to smoke in their home away from other people but not right in other people’s space.”
I wasn’t going to enter this debate, but this is the one place I take issue: it’s not just YOUR space. It’s mine too. Open space is open space, and you people who have decided that non-smokers own it are simply mistaken. It’s that simple.
Her daughter looks older than she does!
Deneuve is gorgeous and is one of the luckier ones that smoking has not ruined her looks.
as for me, i need ALL the help i can get, so ain’t gonna touch dem ciggies if it preserves MY face a bit !! ; -)
“No one has ever shoved my face in an exhaust pipe.”
LOL I should hope not. In any case, there’s no need. During any sidewalk stroll in any city of any size, we are inhaling great lungfuls of traffic exhaust particulates with every breath. And much, much more. There is no escape, not even indoors – unless of course you live in a hermetically sealed clean room or something. 🙂
Tobacco smoke outdoors is the least of our worries in this world, no matter how badly the ignorant yet vocal PC Brigade need to maintain their delusions of superiority. *wink*
@jessiee it is your space too sure. But just like people have the right to drink in their home but if they do so in public they are subject to laws (Drinking and Driving, Public drunkeness, open container laws etc) People who smoke should be subject to laws also.
My right to breathe clean air trumps your right to smoke. period.
And some of us, as mentioned,, are very allergic and have our quality of life seriously depleted by second hand smoke. It’s not some imaginary or ‘idea’ in the mind that we will have our health affected by second hand smoke.
We have our well being affected on the spot, live as it happens by second hand smoke. That is not American sanctimony or a high horse or a nanny mindset. Believe me, I understand that sentiment-but since when did it become okay to violate someone’s space for the sake of your own freedom?
We are constantly drawing th eline. ie, sure you can listen to loud music, but not if it keeps me awake at all hours of the night.
Some of it is common decency and common sense. And the rest is ‘duh, we will need to compromise’ and logic says the person who would like clean air supersedes the person who would like to ingest smoke into her/his lungs. It’s very matter-of-fact logic, really.
@ jessie – While I agree with your point (in your last post), the use of “you people” is inflammatory at best. Try “those who” or something along those lines, please.
Bottom line: Both smokers and non-smokers need to be considerate. Ask if anyone objects prior to lighting up; don’t congregate in the only doorway/entry; mind your manners. Don’t be obnoxious to smokers; just ask them if they mind moving further away from you. It works both ways, folks.
@orig bellaluna – point taken. I got a little huffy (no pun intended) I suppose 🙂
I feel the need to qualify and assure those who might misunderstand me that I am a minor smoker at best, and a very respectful
one. I think it’s a nasty habit, of which I do enjoy partaking. Having said that, I think it’s just a shame that I am made to feel like a pariah, when I do make every effort to accomodate those who don’t like it or can’t be around it; yet I am still told: “my right trumps your right.” Sounds like Animal Farm. Some animals are just more equal than others.
I, too, am amazed at how wonderful she looks… she doesn’t e’en look stretched and botoxed to all hell…
Cigarette smoking laws are very different in France. E’ERYone smokes there…
@ jessie – Word. I too occasionally partake in the nasty habit, but I try to be considerate of others, like you. Good for us! 😀
(I can’t explain it, but sometimes I just NEED a cigarette!)
I don’t see how non-smokers should be considerate of people negatively affecting their health. I think that people should open smoking bars where people who want to smoke can go and no one else is affected (Hooka bars). But I don’t think public space should be polluted by smokers…just like there should be walking trails were cars can’t go etc.
I detest smoking. I find it sad that people use it as a crutch. Bad day at work, light up. Stressed out, light up. Ugh. People need to learn how do just deal. If smokers were more respectful I wouldn’t mind as much. Seems like they don’t give a crap that they stink up wherever they are lighting up. Sitting on the beach downwind from a smoker is awful. IT DOES NOT DISPERSE in the air. It smells disgusting. The smell makes me really ill. A smoker got in my car right after smoking and stunk it up. I immediately started getting a headache. I watched my grandmother suffer from smoking, yellow mustache stained fingers constant hacking up multicolored mucus. Its just gross.
People think smoking outside is fine, try walking down the street in Manhattan behind one. It STINKS. Also walking into a building through smoke DOES happen and it is disgusting.
I think other people’s cigarette smoke smells good. No joke. I, however, cannot stand the smell of other people’s perfume or cologne. Makes my food taste gross.
I think it is rude for meat-eaters to eat meat around vegetarians. They should ask before they gnaw on that chicken bone. Everyone knows that meat consumption is a public health disaster. It should be outlawed. What a fucking weakness. People just think they can chomp on flesh right in front of ME! ME ME ME! WHAT ABOUT MEEEEEEEE!
@ Daphne I was thinking more about her role in La Reine Margot; I remember she was a lot older than her character and it did not show at all. I’m too lazy to look it up now but I think she was in her late thirties and the character was supposed to be in her (very) early twenties. Great movie, anyway.
I see that the debate on smoking rages on.
Catherine Deneuve’s clothes are not “rental” so who cares but her if they reek of smoke. And, being French in France means smoking, wine, and Catherine being “d’un certain age” forever.
Her daughter looks older than her mom.
My father is currently dying. He has Stage IV lung cancer. Its in his bones, his kidneys, and has recently spread to his liver. He’s 64. He’s never going to walk me down the aisle. Smoking is a stupid, stupid thing to do. For the rest of my life, I’m going to remember his voice, not telling me I’m beautiful or that he loves me, but telling me he has cancer and its incurable. Why would you make that choice? And now I’m crying.
She’s ugly to me because if even one person is looking at that picture and thinking they can capture a whisper of her charisma through a cigarette…its disgusting.
What’s wrong with asking someone politely to put their cigarette out or move if it bothers you? Most smokers are respectful when asked; no need to get defensive about having to ask (unless that is, you don’t “politely ask” but rather give the poor scumbag a filthy look while you melodramatically wave your hands in front of your face while you gasp for air.)
Exhaust fumes are far worse than second-hand smoke; don’t kid yourselves. The studies decrying the dangers of second-hand smoke provide lots of ammunition for militant non-smokers, but the exhaust you breathe in every single day is not only bad for you and your loved ones, it’s bad for the planet and for future generations.
For those expressing their outrage over fur, I hope you’re also not wearing leather, lambskin, feathers, etc. The animals those fashion accessories were made from aren’t massacred in any less savage or more humane ways.
As a former smoker who still appreciates the smell of a freshly lit cigarette, and a vegan who still sometimes craves a medium rare steak, I made a promise to myself a long time ago that if the day ever came when I no longer missed those things, I would still show respect and compassion for those who do.
We might be feel superior to or better than those still chained to their “nasty habits.” But that doesn’t give us license to judge, insult or denigrate them.
Are you kidding me? People need to be considerate of smokers? Why? Smoking releases second-hand smoke. Second-hand smoke causes cancer. We don’t tolerate drunk drivers.
The chemicals released by cigarettes pollute. For example, the chemicals are still in a home–in the carpets, upholstery, walls, etc.–even when the cigarettes are out.
The nasty butts strewn all over our parks, beaches, sidewalks, etc., leech nasty chemicals into our water and soil. It doesn’t just hurt us, it hurts the flora and fauna.
Seriously, stop pretending like people who criticize you are self-righteous bastards. If you’re in a bad/toxic relationship–get out. Smoking is like a bad/toxic relationship.
@ erica – BEAUTIFUL! Well spoken and not offensive. LOVE IT! As for the fur/leather/meat thing: I refuse to wear fur. It’s mean.
But I do wear leather shoes. And I don’t eat meat. Hubs eats red meat; I wear the leather; and I figure it all balances out in the wash. A way to try to “balance out” the situation. It may not be perfect, but it works for us. (Otherwise, we’d be divorced.) 😉
She looks amazing for 67!!!
@eyeroll — guess you didn’t bother to read through the rest of the posts. When you stop driving a car, or taking a train, (or otherwise being such a douche) you can resume wagging your finger at smokers. Until then do some research and tell us why you really don’t like it. (by the way, those who say “it stinks; it’s gross; I’m allergic to it” and so on — those are valid reasons. You absolutely have every right to ask someone not to smoke around you. It’s the old, tired, erroneous “second-hand smoke” argument that loses all credibility for me).
Again I am a non-smoker.
I’ve always considered myself a considerate smoker-I don’t blow smoke in people’s faces, I try to stand downwind of non-smokers if I’m stationery, I never smoke around kids and I always put my butts in a bin.
But there are some people who seem to go to effort to make you feel bad for smoking. When I was at uni, a friend of a friend would sometimes come out with us smokers. He’d then stand right in front of us and cough and wave his hand around. So even though some (I’d like to think most smokers) will try not to annoy non-smokers, there’s just no way to avoid it with some non-smoking martyrs.
If you go to gettyimages.com, you will find pictures from 50 years ago where she was already smoking at age 16-17. She is lucky she’s not on an oxygen tank.
I do agree she is still beautiful but would look MUCH better if she wasn’t a smoker. Now she’s just “pretty” at best, but even in her films from the 1990s she still looked gorgeous. The smoking lines she has above her lips are awful.
Her daughter is also a smoker. Here is an older picture of them smoking together: http://i.fanpix.net/images/orig/3/h/3h0bhlqqa1xc3c0a.jpg
@claude yoola – touche. Whatever happened to the old adage everything in moderation? Catherine Deneuve still looks great and she’s 67 – obviously happy and healthy – so what if she smokes a cig now and again. She will always have je ne sais quoi!
@Pirouette
BWAHAHAHA!!! Well said girl.
@eyeroll
Second hand smoke studies are a bit dodgy my dear. The only people that can truly be proved to be affected by second hand smoke are people who lived with heavy smokers for years. You are not going to get cancer from walking through a cloud of smoke on the sidewalk or spending a couple of hours in a smokey bar. They have tried to ban smoking in cars basically because it irritates the person next to them, but they CANT because nobody yet has the audacity to try to say smoke fumes are more toxic than the fumes from the exhaust. Everyone lighten up. Cigarettes are on the way out. try not to be a self righteous pain in the tush for the rest of the ride. Ok?
All the pulpit pounding and soapbox standing is amazing in this particular thread.
The topic of smoking is a real hot-button.
@Jessiee – “I wasn’t going to enter this debate, but this is the one place I take issue: it’s not just YOUR space. It’s mine too. Open space is open space, and you people who have decided that non-smokers own it are simply mistaken. It’s that simple.”
The problem with that state of mind is that a non-smoker isn’t imposing potentially harmful actions on those around them, where-as smokers *are*. I *do* think it’s a bit excessive to say a smoker can’t smoke *outside* (within reason, there should be guidelines of some places to avoid… like they shouldn’t be too close to the entrance of a non-smoking building, or like a hospital/school/or playground. Other than that, I don’t see how they can control what someone does while outside.
Those of us who have asthma, allergies, or a more serious condition like my brother’s CF, shouldn’t have to walk through a cloud of smoke to entera ‘non-smoking’ building. Even a little exposure can be especially dangerous for some of us.
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@Carobell – I’m *so* sorry, about your father. I can’t imagine how painful it’s been for you to know there really isn’t anything you can do. =( I think a big part of the problem is that smoking a cigarette gets instant gratification… It’s easy to put the long term consequences out of mind, or downplay it.
nasty *and* her prerogative.
deneuve and other smokers are allowed to do all the harm they wish to themselves, as long as their smoke isn’t poisoning someone other than themselves.
I don’t care, but then I’m from England, where we used to feel as the French do and are being pushed to feel as the Americans do. Personally (and bear in mind I’ve five and half months pregnant and therefore had to give up smoking) my only real opinion on these photos is that the white-tip Vogues look much classier than the tan-tips. And I know everyone will say that there’s nothing classy about smoking, and you’d be right.
But don’t trust me. Two nights ago I had a dream where I was smoking and the waking me is a little bit jealous of the dreaming me for being able to smoke. Not so jealous that I’d do anything about it though – I don’t want to hurt my baby, or shorten my life in any way now that I’m going to be a momma. Anyway, it’s about the only time I think smoking looks tacky – pushing a pram. That, or wearing a wedding dress and smoking.
Whenever conversations about obesity come up, you hear a lot of people wonder bitterly, ‘Why should I be stuck ponying up however much of my personal wealth for their health care when it’s chronic irresponsible behaviour with well-known repurcussions that landed them the persistent illness with they now live?’ Quoth the Cicero: who benefits?
Just saying.
I long for the days when smoking a cigarette WAS the worse thing one could do in the context of civility. I see no one complaining about the casual, continuous use of the B-word that seems to have gotten started just about the time the inhospitable smoke-free thing began to appear. It’s October now — I just came across this — after not watching TV for three days so as to not get unavoidably treated to gruesome streams of the murdered Mohammar Quadafi (whether or not he was a hated quantity). Yeah, this smoke-free world really has it going on. What a wonderful place! P.S. Overexposure to the sun, poor diet, genetics and lack of exercise — not smoking — are the causes of unattractively aging sun. On the other hand, you have to get at least 15 minute of outside sunshine everyday (as a vitamin[or diet] factor). In that regard, smokers who are forced outside for this little sunshine doses everday will in time prove to have it all over nonsmokers in the longer retention of youthful skin. So why don’t all you very uncivilized anti-smokers drag yourselves away from your couches, all your gorging on poor food and TV bloodlust, go get yourselves some exercise and fresh air, and leave the rest of us to restore healthy civilization.