Sister Wives say Warren Jeffs is evil, but feel sorry for the women and children

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I finally got around to watching Sunday’s episode of “Sister Wives.” While some are calling it boring, I actually enjoyed it more than the the other episodes I’ve seen this season. They didn’t focus on the kids much this time, which was a relief. On this episode the Brown family was visited by a couple from their church who are currently monogamous with six kids but who have the same belief system and are hoping to take on other wives. It was a nice look into their belief system, and I found myself rooting for The Browns again. I’m coming back around to my original viewpoint that they should live however they want to. I’ve felt that way all along, but I’ve lost sight of that amid all the reality show drama with this family. To me, they’re a target for mocking because they’re on a reality show and are putting their kids and family out there, not because they chose to have several women living with one man.

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Anyway Kody gave a little sermon at his house about how Warren Jeffs, the convicted former leader of the FLDS church who “married” and raped child brides, is an evil leader and how there was a similar evil leader guy in the Book of Mormon. All the wives said they felt sorry for the people and the moms in the compound under Jeffs’ control and they claimed that one of the reasons that Jeffs was able to do such atrocious things to that community (I’m paraphrasing) was that people were afraid to come out as polygamists. It’s not like the members of that compound could turn to law enforcement for help, because their lifestyle was illegal too. Christine said she was appalled that people thought that the FLDS type of polygamy was the “norm.”

Here’s a good recap of the show:

In the latest “Sister Wives,” we get a look into the principle of plural marriage as Kody advises his friend Andy about courting a second wife and the Browns talk about Warren Jeffs, the “prophet” of the FLDS.

So some friends from Utah come to visit, Andy and Nicole. They were raised in plural marriage and believe that, but they are monogamous. Interesting. Andy wants to talk to Kody about dating a woman as a married man. Andy and Nicole already have six children and Andy isn’t sure he should be going after a young woman with no children.

Andy’s take on the Brown family is that they’re in a divorce in Las Vegas because they don’t all live together in one house. Huh. He also doesn’t want to leave one wife home alone when he goes to sleep with the second wife. Huh.

Back at home, Mykelti tells her mom Christine how proud she is of her family for being public about their beliefs and their lifestyle and not being afraid and changing the minds of people. Totally. I’m not a polygamist, but obviously the Browns are not one of those crazy compounds where old men marry underage girls and to each their own and good for them for going public.

This leads into a segment about Warren Jeffs, the “prophet” of the Fundamentalist Latter-Day Saints Church. Did you watch “Big Love”? He’s Roman Grant (Harry Dean Stanton) from “Big Love.”

Kody teaches his kids about how these leaders, who should’ve been noble and benevolent, and instead preyed upon young women in their community. The Browns don’t want to demonize the people from a compound like where Jeffs has them living because those people need help. He’s the bad guy, but the people there need rescuing.

Finally, they take Nicole and Andy on a dinner cruise on Lake Mead. The wives wonder about whether Nicole is looking forward to a relationship with her sister wives. She is hesitant. Her advantages of plural marriage seem to be playmates for her kids and more moms. Hmm.

Spin-off for Nicole and Andy? It would definitely be a different perspective on polygamy than what the Brown family offered when they first started the show.

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That last line to me is key. Andy seemed sort-of genuine about being curious about how to bring on other wives, but I’m also pretty sure he and his wife visited the Browns so they could get on TV. This is my biggest problem with the show; it’s not about how one doofus husband has four wives at all, it’s about how they’re creating a whole reality show around it with ensuing drama for their family and their poor kids. This cannot end well. Plus, they moved to Vegas and uprooted their poor kids with almost no notice. That never would have done that if they weren’t on television.

Meanwhile the youngest and dumbest sister wive, Robyn, recently tweeted that she was abused in her first marriage. She wroteJust to clarify, I do not tolerate my kids getting bullied. I ended my first marriage because of abuse. My kids come first ALWAYS.” She didn’t specify which type of abuse she endured, whether physical or emotional, and she later deleted that tweet. We haven’t heard anything from Robyn’s first husband at all, but I’d be very interested to get his take on this whole situation.

Here’s a clip from Sunday’s episode where their friend compares separate living arrangements to a divorce. It’s weird.

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22 Responses to “Sister Wives say Warren Jeffs is evil, but feel sorry for the women and children”

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  1. Heatheradair says:

    (it’s FLDS, actually — flip-flop the letters)

  2. Flea says:

    nicole has very sad eyes.

  3. Tierra says:

    ugghhh, these people just aren’t right.
    All I see is a bunch of women with self-esteem issues surrounding a guy that wouldnt appeal to me if he were the last man on earth and I just drank a jug of wine.

  4. Jackie says:

    she ended her first marriage due to abuse, yet she said she would send her kids to go live with their father if they continue to get bullied in the ‘new family’….lucky kids.

  5. MJ says:

    What’s so weird about their take on Warren Jeffs? He is evil, and I also feel sorry for his wives and kids. It seems like a pretty level-headed opinion, which is kind of surprising coming from them.

    You can tell the Church of JC and LDS is trying to do damage-control when it comes to Jeffs’ compound (and also partially this TV show) with those “everyday Mormons” TV ads that are all over the place these days. It’s probably a good idea.

  6. Feisty says:

    Robyn’s first husband’s last name was Jessop. Most of the articles I’ve read about the FLDS who live in the really weird polygamist towns (everyone dresses like Little House on the Prairie) include at least one family named Jessop, he was one of the FLDS founders.

    She didn’t say she would send them to live with their father if they kept getting bullied, when the kids turn 13 they get to choose which parent they live with. That’s not that unusual, she must not have been able to conclusively prove abuse.

  7. Schnauzers!!! says:

    @Tierra I have said the same thing since I first watched this show with my husband. No self esteem whatsoever coming from any of those women. 🙁

  8. Jackie says:

    @feisty – fabulous ‘choices’ to give your children. stay living with bullies or go live with your father who i consider to be abusive.

  9. aenflex says:

    They all have sad eyes.

  10. ellie66 says:

    to each there own……but damn Cody is creepy as hell and Robin is a dumb as a bag of hair!

  11. gg says:

    😆 @ Tierra! I concur!

    My take on their friends’ chatting about taking on another wife further demonstrates how weird it is and how our natural propensity as evolved humans is one committed partner. These two are even in their sect, and they STILL can’t get their heads wrapped around it. Seems to me they should listen to their own Red Flags. Why can’t they belong in their little church and just have one partner?? I think it’s abusive to force an additional person into the marriage if everybody isn’t 100% onboard with it. Seems very wrong.

  12. Gine says:

    They do have the right to live however they want, but man, do these people have issues. Cody is a pathetic, spoiled, juvenile attention whore and each wife is more desperately insecure than the last.

  13. Alaska says:

    You guys always pick the funniest pictures to use in your stories! That last one is cracking me up.

  14. Feisty says:

    @Jackie – What part of it do you think is her fault? Other than marrying weirdos.

    If her custody agreement includes that the kids get to pick where to live, there’s not a lot she can do about it. If the other moms won’t get their shit together and help protect her kids, there’s not a lot she can do about that either if she’s staying in her marriage.

  15. Deb says:

    I generally think people should be able to live their lives whoever they see fit (providing they not harming anyone). I think what bugs me about the Browns the inequality of the situation. It’s not like the wives can decide they want a few extra husbands. I hate any situation where women are basically subservient to some douchey man.

  16. NeoCleo says:

    I don’t give a good god damn about these people except that they are living outside the law–you know the one all the right-wing nutters are trying so hard to make a federal constitutional law–marriage is between one man and one woman.

    This is exactly what women DON’T need nowadays. We are already vastly in the majority of the poverty-stricken in this world(including children) and now we have a bunch of brain-washed, ignorant females on television advocating a return to the Wild-West days of Brigham Young (what an upstanding citizen he was!). I can’t sit through a complete viewing of this show–it is an obscene joke.

    I’m going to go vomit now.

  17. Lauren says:

    They all look so blissful & content.

  18. Shannon says:

    I have a problem with institutionalized polygamy when it involves a lack of choice, or taking agency away from women, or forcing them to submit to a patriarchal society.

    I do not see that problem in this family. I see it in the Warren Jeffs type compounds – the Yearning for Zion Ranch with all of the baby graves and the pioneer dresses are creepy as hell and it’s obvious the women are treated as second class citizens. Anyone who manages to leave successfully is either hunted down and forced to come back or excommunicated, with family members still in the cult banned from contacting them.

    The Browns are nothing like this. They encourage their kids to make their own choices. They realize that some of them will not embrace polygamy, and they are fine with it. They won’t cast the children out of the family for it. The girls aren’t being groomed to be the 14th wife of an 80 year old man. The boys aren’t entitled and they don’t act as if the women in the family are their servants. They all go to public school and interact with kids from mainstream backgrounds. They’re normal kids with a nontraditional family, just like the kids of gay parents or the kids of blended families are.

    I think this is what’s so hard about polygamy laws. How do you realistically create a law that bans the abusive form of polygamy, but not the consensual form like the Browns practice? I think this is a really difficult concept, but there needs to be a change in the law. If three (or more) adults want to marry each other of their own free will, they should have the right to do that. There are polyamorous people who would like to marry, and it has nothing to do with religion. I don’t personally want to marry more than one person, but I also don’t want to marry someone of the same gender. That doesn’t mean I can impose my personal preferences on everyone else. But by the same token, how do we tackle the problems in the breakaway sects, where the men are free to impose whatever perverted fantasies they want to on the women and children with no fear of reprisal?

  19. Legend says:

    Keep polygamy illegal. The ‘people should be able to do whatever they want’ line is a copout. Polygamist cultures suppress women – it’s the only way it works. Do you honestly think these women would have chosen to share one guy if they hadn’t been indoctrinated since birth? And how many guys do you think have the resources to support 20 kids?

  20. Jo 'Mama' Besser says:

    Are they crying again?

  21. Veronica says:

    The sister wives are all wearing shirts under shirts, no individuality!

  22. bettyrose says:

    Sorry, I’ve been offline for a few days. Probably no one is still reading this thread but the “live and let live” philosophy has one flaw: An 18 year old girl who has been brainwashed into polygamy her entire life is still emotionally a child. Marrying her off to a man of her “choosing” is better than the sexual slavery of those compounds, sure, but it’s not an adult decision, nonetheless.