When Halle Berry and Gabriel Aubry split, a lot of accusations were made both through the press and in court that Aubry was verbally abusive, that he screamed racial epithets at Halle, and that he may have been neglecting their daughter Nahla, now nearly four. There were only vague allegations of neglect in the press and the worst thing I think I read about Aubry was that he called Halle the N word and threw a chair against a wall. A lot of people questioned whether Halle was publicly maligning Aubry in order to make herself out to be the victim and bolster her custody case. Well a new story suggests that Aubry might have an explosive temper after all. A nanny has accused him of pushing her out the door and screaming at her – when she had Nahla in her arms.
Halle Berry’s baby daddy Gabriel Aubry is being investigated for criminal child endangerment and battery — over an incident involving his and Halle’s child … TMZ has learned.
According to the police report, obtained by TMZ, Gabriel allegedly pushed his nanny into a door while she held his daughter Nahla in her arms.
Law enforcement sources tell TMZ … Gabriel was supposed to take 3-year-old Nahla to school Wednesday but decided to keep her home instead. The nanny — who worked for both Gabriel and Halle — went to the school to pick Nahla up and was told the child was a no-show.
According to the report, the nanny then went to Gabriel’s home, where she found Nahla. The nanny picked Nahla up and began to question Gabriel as to why he didn’t take the child to school.
According to the report, that’s when Gabriel allegedly flew into a rage — claiming, “You’re the f**king nanny. Who do you think you are? You are a nobody. You don’t need to f**king know anything.” The 6-foot-4 Gabriel then allegedly pushed the 5-foot-2 nanny out the door, Nahla in her arms.
The nanny filed a police report, claiming she was injured. Law enforcement sources tell us … police are investigating Gabriel for both misdemeanor child endangerment and misdemeanor battery.
The report lists the investigation as a battery, but law enforcement sources tell us they are “definitely investigating child endangerment.”
[From TMZ]
I read the police report (the PDF is here) and the blowup was over the nanny picking up Nahla, so that means that it’s Halle’s nanny too and there may be some history there. The accusations in the police report don’t sound as sordid as TMZ makes them out to be in their writeup (above) but that could just be due to the neutral way that police reports are written. They write “The susp(ect) [Aubry] then pushed the vict(im), who was still holding Nala [sic] in her arms and the vict fell against the wall, that was next to the susp[(ect’s) front door. The vict stated that if the door was not there she would of [sic] fell to the ground with Nala in her arms.” I hope it wasn’t as bad as it sounds and that Nahla wasn’t traumatized by seeing her dad blow up at her nanny like that.
TMZ has a follow-up story that Halle is seeking a no contact ruling in court so that Aubry can’t see his daughter at all until the investigation for child endangerment associated with this case is complete. The nanny allegedly told police that “Gabriel repeatedly yelled and cursed at her, often while Nahla was present,” and that “Gabriel often yelled at Nahla, causing the child to cower and cry.” Then they add that the nanny claimed that “when Nahla had a rash he refused to treat it.” That’s a strange minor detail to add, isn’t it? Whatever is going on, I just feel sorry for Nahla.
Gabriel and Nahla are shown outside her school on 1-9, 1-11, 1-12 and 1-13. They pretty much get papped every day
Oh god, this is awful. That poor little girl. How could anyone in a co-parenting situation let it degenerate in such a fashion. I’m in a co-parenting relationship and I try my damndest to maintain decent relations for the sake of my son. Both Halle and Gabriel seem to have major, major issues, and unfortunately their daughter will suffer.
@Kelly – I don’t know about Gabriel’s temper, by all accounts he seems steady with no diva-esque attitude, almost too sweet for the cutthroat model industry, but I think Halle, based on her history starting with her father, has terrible issues with men: Either they are brutal monsters, or raging xenophobes.
Whatever the situation, Halle DOES need treatment, for her distorted views. In the long run, she might impress on her daughter who can grow up believing that all men are bastards, and all women are victims.
See, I always believed that Kim Basinger was bullied by her violent ex, but I’m having trouble believing Halle.
I’m also reserving judgement on this. Something is off. I know that Gabriel resented the nanny being there, that he tried to have that provision of being supervised by the nanny dropped. There was a lot of tension regarding this nosy nanny. It seems unlikely that he out and out engaged in physical contact. Given that Halle has been trying to terminate Gabriel’s visitation since Day 1, I’m inclined to think that a verbal altercation probably occurred, with the nanny being roundly put in her place, and that some sort of accidental physical contact occurred (idk..maybe he tripped and accidentally touched her?) and because she was getting ripped a new one for not respecting his parental rights, decided to trump up some charges with Halle being the ring leader. Time will tell.
It seems pretty obvious that the nanny is Halle’s hammer with Gabriel foolishly, reactively and predictably playing his part of a big ol nail pop. Both parents are guilty of putting little Nahla in the middle of this ugly game. The more Halle tries to portray herself as an innocent victim in all of this, the more she comes off looking like even a bigger jerk than her baby’s dad might be.
@ Capella and DreamyK:
Agree wholeheartedly with all.
I would like to see Gabe begin to protect himself by hiring a better attorney than what he has had thus far.
And also a nanny hired by him, for that matter.
He just needs to do a better job of asserting himself and his parental rights in this custody tussle.
He comes off so passive and reactive to what Halle throws at him, probably just like when they were in a relationship together, I imagine.
He and Nahla deserve better; Halle is one crazy lady.
When the first shit hit the fan, didn’t Gabriel’s attorney state that he has actual recordings of Halle LOSING HER SH-T AND BEING AGGRESSIVE?
Apparently, Gabriel did not want to release those tapes, because he didn’t want to lower himself to such nonsense. Gabriel, if you are a victim here, not victimizing nanny and ex, time to release The Cracken dude! Just nip it in the butt, once and for all.
@Capella : he just might have to. she is trying so hard to make him look horrible. Who really knows what goes on behind closed doors but that little girl doesn’t look like she doesn’t want to be with her dad.
on a side note- he is so hot.
Good point Lorraine, Nahla does look like she trusts her dad. I don’t know about Gabriel, but if someone is playing nasty and trying to separate me from my kids, I would go all out in discrediting them.
Although poor man, it looks like he doesn’t know how to play the Hollywood game!
i’m only commenting on the hotness… just out of interest, he was at LAX on 22 december getting luggage off the carousel next to me and many others. he was totally ignored by everyone, and looked TOTALLY normal, wearing a beanie hat etc. maybe the hotness doesn’t translate into real life. seriously, nobody gave a shit. i only noticed because i always look around me. it was defo him. seemed bland and immature, silly low slung jeans, hat, etc. snore.
@Norma – I’ve met him, and let me tell you, the guy is HOT!!! Especially summer time with just jeans, flip flops and a white T. And very shy! Or I was too forward in my gawking at his hotness and made him get all red and timid;)
To me it looks like that girl loves her Daddy. She how she smiles? How she hugs him?
I think Halle is completely off the rails and this nanny was her nanny and he always opposed this situation. I just don’t buy any of it.
Seems like he is the more stable, loving parent, at least to me.
Yep, I agree with DreamyK and the others who share that view. When I read about this on TMZ, I felt myself becoming annoyed with the nanny and feeling like he fell right into a trap that Halle (via the nanny) led him into. You just know that there is serious history with her basically being a spy for Halle, who has ALL of the control, which is something that would drive anyone to act out…
Obviously it sucks for the little one!
This sounds suspicious as hell. Who hired the nanny? Halle? Then, I’m sorry, but I get the feeling that this was set up by crazy Halle to get what she really wants–Nahla all to herself.
honestly I was going to say the same thing! this suspiciously helps out her whole “he’s a racist and neglectful father” case too well
I completely co-sign on this.
I agree. A nanny is an employee! She has no right to question him in the first place.
And everyone knows that Halle is a cuckoo bird.
aybe she was just trying to figure out why she had to go all the way to the school to find out that the baby wasnt there. sounds like a waste of my time. no employee regardless of what they deserves to be shouted at for asking questions
Naye – even if he didn’t handle the Nahla-not-in-school bit as well as he could, that’s no excuse for making shit up. And I don’t buy this. This sounds like Halle’s delusions are back in overdrive.
except Halle didnt file the report….
Halle didn’t need to, this ‘nanny’ is Halle’s puppet. She was hired by Halle after she won her petition to have Gabs visitation monitored.
I agree.
It would take alot of evidence for me to ever believe anything from Halle or her camp. Ugly ugly person.
I absolutely agree. This woman has serious issues & I wouldnt believe her if she claimed the sky was blue.. Do feel v v bad for the little girl.
We don’t know the full story. But like I said in the past, Halle always had issues. Wesley Snipes, David Justice, Shemar Moore, Christopher Williams, Eric Benet and the gorgeous actor Michael Ealy. All these men said the same thing but every one sided with Halle. I don’t want to use race But it seems until Gabriele her white ex-boyfriend said she has a problem NOW Halle is crazy with the General Public. I’m sorry but all these men can’t be wrong. She’s a beautiful woman but she’s always the victim in the drama.
I agree 1000%.
Halle has waged a hate campaign against Gabriel ever since they broke up to eliminate him from Nahla’s life. She’s a crazy and agreed, an ugly person. I hope Martinez knows what he’s getting into. It is doubtful Gabriel will win against her in court. She has a lot more money for lawyers and the courts usually side with the mother. Nahla is the one who will pay the price, but someday she will know what really went on.
I agree 100% Tazina.
Nahla is adorable! She’ll probably grow up to be a beautiful woman.
Co-sign.
Agree 100%
You guys are funny. This is not from a tabloid. This is from a police report. It may be a bit tilted by the nanny’s possible bias, but she wouldn’t file a police report about something baseless and totally disputable (by Gabriel) because she could get into big trouble for that. A lot of women here want to side with Gabriel because well, he looks like that, and he does seem very sweet with Nahla in those photos. But a photo is just a photo, and none of us really know what he’s like behind closed doors. Halle may be crazy according to the gossip sites, but that doesn’t mean Gabriel’s not even a little bit like what she says he’s like. Just sayin’.
Gigi, I agree with you, all thoses pics are staged ( even thoses that appear not to be ) they know they are being photographed so of course they are on their best behavior! IN truth WE DONT KNOW WHATS RREALLY GOIN ON, IT ALL COMES DOWN TO WHO HAS THE BETTER PUBLICIST!!!
A police report isn’t what they witnessed/what happened. A police report is what she SAID that happened. A friend of mine called the police on her ex when she said he slapped her. He told the police she slapped herself- both things went in the report. They ended up having her hold her hand up to her face (and proved she slapped herself, actually, but that’s another story).
All I’m saying is police reports aren’t truth, they’re just what the accuser/victim decides to tell the police.
In this particular story, I can’t tell either way. However, I read the nanny also claimed he hurled racial epithets at her, which is the part that is fishiest about it. Her report sounds exactly like the BS Halle’s been trying to spread about Gabriel, and that’s why the story looks suspicious. It’s good that the police is taking this seriously and investigating, though.
Yeah cause people never file false police reports, never (oozing sarcasm).
Gigi, I agree with you that Gabriel probably is a little like how Halle depicts him. He shouldn’t be losing his sh*t like he did when the nanny came to retrieve Nahla. But I think the point most are trying to make is that Halle herself is no better, and may be worse in that she instigates trouble and is seeking to alienate Gabriel from their daughter based on the way he responds to her relentless button-pushing tactics. They both need help learning how to deal with each other, but it is troubling that Halle, in particular, seizes every opp to sling mud at her daughter’s father.
That was my first impression as well. I can’t help but find constantly pulling the “racist” card suspicious. If he was that much of a racist, why was he with Halle? Why pose proudly for all the world to see on the RC with your black girlfriend? Why would he have a child with a black woman?
I have an American former friend who is metis and she pulled that all the time. Wielded the “racist” card like a weapon because she knew that it would work half the time (probably more in her own country where there’s the history to contend with and the latent guilt that goes with it).
@Wendy…Could not have said it better myself. Exactly what i was thinking! A racist man of any color is NOT going to be in a relationship and have a child with a woman of a race that he despises. I have too many friends of various races and it simply doesn’t work that way. Halle has a history of being a vile human being. I wouldn’t put it past someone like her to set him up. He definitely needs to put up or shut up about those tapes because his relationship with his daughter may depend on it.
@Scarlet, you took the words straight out of my fingers!
The statement does say that Nahla has only one nanny, and she is part of Halle’s staff.
Remember when Aubry had said that he has tapes of his phone conversations with Halle, and that he can easily prove that she is the one with the crazy temper? At that time, he clearly stated that he doesn’t want to go there, but if he must, he will. Well, time to put out Gabriel! Because if you love your daughter, and want to truly stay in her life, and if what that crazy B is accusing you of is false, now is the time to put those tapes out and shut her down once and for all.
Usually, I support a woman. When her husband cheats, when her husband beats her up, when she is mistreated in any shape or form. But this one, I can’t find sympathy for Halle. She is a delusional psycho who needs treatment, before she impresses badly on her daughter that all men are bastards, and all women are victims!
@Capella…Could not have said it better myself. Exactly what i was thinking! A racist man of any color is NOT going to be in a relationship and have a child with a woman of a race that he despises. I have too many friends of various races and it simply doesn’t work that way. He definitely needs to put up or shut up about those tapes because relationship with his daughter may depend on it.
@Valkyrie, don’t forget him moving to Africa to be with his daughter while Halle was filming. Not really the country you want to be in if you dislike black, IMO…
@scarlet vixen, you have hit the nail on the head. I feel sorry for Gabriel.
My thoughts too. If Halle is paying the nanny, she might be doing this on her request. Or he could be a jerk. Time will tell.
There is never any excuse to be violent. That said, I feel like we’re missing a huge chunk of what happened. Seems like a very one-sided altercation, no?
Yep! Totally agree as well. Nanny’s hired by Halle, has probably got a big ol’ crush on her employer and is motivated to help her/see her point of view. Bogus. Halle is a nutbar.
I generally tend to suspend judgement in child custody cases.
My sister is a divorce lawyer, and the things that people do when their children are involved…it’s unbelievable.
I have no idea what’s going on here. But I do find it curious that the only other witness is one of Halle Berry’s employees. (I know she technically works for both, but the nanny tends to be more the mother’s employee.)
Does Aubry have other accusations, or arrests, or charges? For actual violence, I mean. I’m sorry, but I don’t regard yelling insults during fights, or destroying furniture, as domestic violence.
Couples, or exes, having fights tend to say really nasty things. And I once smashed a vase on the floor during a fight with my husband. Neither of us considered it domestic violence.
In some relationships to smash a vase on the floor (or to destroy any inanimate objects) can be very intimidating to the other person.
Intimidation certainly is domestic violence.
if a large man was mad at me and threw a chair at the wall chances are id be a little bit frightened. there should never be fear in a relationship and i advise women to leave at the first sign of feeling threatened. Ive been there before and it got to the point where i jumped almost every time i opened my mouth. i said hey I dont want my daughter to ever think its okay to live in fear of the person who is supposed to love her. i was far from abused or perfect in that relationship but at some point someone has to say “not a step further”
note my babys father was also 6’4 and a loving father
I’m with you, Liz. Often, people destroy things specifically because they are directing that intense anger away from the person and on to something that seems “safe” to hurt. I’d certainly prefer someone NOT get crazy with inanimate objects, but I think it is evidence that a person is trying to control themselves.
I’ve been in both situations, and I will tell you that someone who breaks a chair may be someone who will never, never hit a person. Some people just find a lot of release physically, and we need to be careful not to provoke people. Yes, the person who breaks a chair is trying to intimidate you — they’re trying to warn you that you are pushing them beyond their ability to bear. It’s important to listen to that.
No, there’s no excuse for violence, but we do need to respect people’s limitations. A truly abusive person doesn’t need any provocation; they will just hit and throw and kick because they’re in the mood to.
I knew a girl who was sitting on the couch texting about what an idiot her husband was. When he read the texts, he broke her phone. She accused him of getting violent with her, thereby degrading those who have actually been the victim of true domestic violence.
If someone comes from abusive relationships, any type of overt aggression in a heated situation can trigger fear. It’s a psychological thing. I don’t think Aubry is physically abusive, but I believe that he may have anger issues. I also believe that even if he gets normal angry and smashes a thing or two he doesn’t understand how that makes a person who had been abused feel, in which case he needs to work out that.
He did abuse her. He had no right to lok at her phone and he had no right to destroy her property. It is generally accepted that breaking personal items is NOT a form of self-control, rather the abuser is using the inanimate object as a proxy for the victim.
Also, it has been scientifically proven that indulging anger makes it grow, and does not “blow off steam” so regardless of intent, it makes the situation worse.
I agree with you, Victoria, that he should be sensitive to her. The guy certainly sounds like an idiot (but I don’t really follow Halle Berry gossip, so I’m not that informed).
And Embee, I definitely agree that “blowing off steam” ends up making a person more angry. I don’t encourage my kids to beat their pillows when they’re upset (like some do). I don’t mean to justify someone getting aggressive — I was beaten regularly as a kid / teenager by someone 6 years older than me and I know how horrible it is — but I do think there’s a clear difference between breaking something and hitting someone.
And while I think you’re right that the fellow shouldn’t have broken a phone (and I wouldn’t have done so in the same situation), I think she does have to take responsibility for pushing him to that point…of course, she was generally unstable and treated her husband like crap, so I’m inclined to side with him.
okay lets flip this inatimate object thing. My BF was pissing me off, and apparently i was pissing him off too and i said nope youre not going with me anywhere with that attitude and as i was pulling off HE SMASHED MY WINDSHIELD.
and to this day says it was because i was making him mad to that point and he had to get it out. he got it our all over my car and didnt hit me once.. the point is a violent temper is a violent temper and i could have been hurt OR WORSE OUR child who was in the car.
a chair smashed against a wall has flying limps. a smashed vase flying broken glass. it doesnt matter. walk the hell away. a nice long brisk walk. expressing your anger through violent acts is never okay in any situation inatimate object or not. And you best believe he paid for my f-ing windhshield and my f-ing phone and what ever else he got mad and f-ed up
I’m a thower. Totally admit it. I would rather throw a brush against the wall than ever come close to hitting my SO. But sometimes its that or go batshit crazy (and these are extreme hour long arguments that you feel will never end). Do I have anger issues? You betcha. But I also would rather throw things like a monkey child than destroy my relationship by getting physical with him. I am not perfect. But I also wouldn’t consider myself and absuer….well…except to the poor wall (and brush, and iphone, and towel, and pen, and …).
Naye, my Exhusband smashed my windshield while I and our 6 weeks old daughter were in the car. I quietly excused myself with the baby and locked myself and the baby in my bedroom and asked him to take an hour to cool off. He broke down the door and dragged me around the room by my ankles until I passed out from having my head hit the bed. Oh, he also destroyed my phone (from which I was trying to call 911) by throwing it against a wall.
It was the first (and last) time he got physical with me.
When I came to he had passed out (drunk) and I called the police from his phone. Thank God he didn’t touch the baby and thank God he didn’t kill me.
I cannot be rational about broken phones or smashed windshields or holes in walls (he punched one of those, too). Nope. Never. It’s a step in the process of escalating violence.
embee thats what im trying to say. people dont know that they are capable of something until they do it. i knew my BF was violent when we got together , but i never expected him to act violently towards me. The more someone gets away with something, the more the situation escalates and it only takes one time for you to end up dead.
Police will tell you that in most domestic murders the suspect is extremely remorseful afterward from not having judged their actions appropriately i nthe heat of anger. When someone is angry rational thought is almost impossible. So if you see the signs of recklessness run, i dont care if someone tells you it isnt bad enough. and again if you cant respect my property, how much do you really respect me?
im glad you and your baby are safe. i pulled off and parked somewhere in the neighborhood while he continued to call my phone and threaten me from my house until he left. i am willing to let him be around his daughter, i know he loves her but i cant be around him alone. hes too unpredictable
I don’t care to read TMZ’s version but this entire situation is shady as hell. It’s perfect timing too since Halle is now engage to Olivier Martinez so she can claim that her domestic situation is more stable to give her sole custody.
Who the eff is this nanny to go charging in and asking Gabriel why she wasn’t in school. None of your damn business – is Nahla going to miss an important algebra test missing pre-school that day?? I wasn’t there and I have no inside knowledge but I call BS. I can buy him yelling at the nanny (hell, I yelled at the nanny when I read that account) but I’m not buying that he pushed her. Nice try Halle.
I agree, it’s one thing to ask, but that doesn’t sound like she asked. It sounds like she has no respect for Gabriel and was throwing Halle’s weight around.
What a nightmare. It won’t stop either, until Nahla is much older. The parent holding the power (money) can drag these things on for years, and make life miserable and stressful. I’d suggest it’s probably a good idea to take everything we’re hearing about Gabriel with a grain of salt. I’m very suspicious of Halle in this instance. Hopefully the judge will be also. It seems Halle won’t stop until Nahla’s relationship with her other parent is truly destroyed. Parental alienation is a danger here. And I’m speaking from hard-won experience (it can happen with either gender).
Wow……this woman is relentless in the persuit of her goal off ripping alway all parental rights from this man…and it looks like she is willing to do anything to gain that goal…..What a nasty piece of work to be a parent of gerbil let alone a little innocent child….
Her main goal in her life seem to be getting the man out of her life, it doesn’t matter if hes the father of the child He was just the spem donor and now he is useless to her and she not about to share that child with anybody…This really should be a life lesson to current boyfriend as to her nature…if they ever had a child together as she said the other day..she gets tired of him and he’d be sharingg the same boat as Gabrieal
I just wiki’d her background and apparently she grew up without her dad. I don’t understand why she feels the need to take away her daughter’s dad from her. Halle obviously has some man issues but why push away someone who wants to be a parent to his child? Sheesh.
Doesn’t Halle have primary custody over Nahla? Just sounds like the nanny really works for Halle otherwise why didn’t wasn’t she there in the morning helping Nahla get ready for school rather than dropping by to pick her up to Halle’s house? And don’t tell me that Halle gets up every morning to get Nahla to school.
Halle growing up without her dad in her life is a reason she may think that her daughter doesn’t need her father in her life. Halle is close to her mother and seems to be mimicking the scenario of a single mom and her daughter. My father was never in my life, however that’s because my mom decided that since she was not in a relationship with him then I didn’t need a relationship with him either. It was not her right but she did it anyway. She re-married and for years told me that that person was my father. I didn’t learn until I was eleven years old that the monster she married was not my biological father. I never forgave her. I was never able to establish a relationship with my bio dad because too much damage had been done and I had no place in my heart for a father anymore.
That TMZ write up makes it sound like the nanny feels she has the authority [as proxy to Halle] to question GA. Since HAlle wants that child to herself, any mis-step by GA will be reported to the police and that way build up a picture of a violent father figure that can then be presented to a custody judge.
i pity GA, but i pity Nahla most of all because she is in a situation where her father is systematically being painted the black sheep, the better and easier to remove him from her life.
I’m sorry I simply don’t buy this. Halle knew her image took a huge hit the last time she tried this nonsense so I have no doubt that she would buy off her nanny to say this junk. Yep, Gabriel is so racist that he fell in love with a black woman and had a child with her. I remember hearing David Justice saying that he had never ever known anyone who was so spoiled and would go the lengths she did to get her way as Halle and I believed him then and I believe it now. What she wants is Gabriel out of her life and his daughter’s life and she will stop at nothing to make it so. I think she of all people would want her daughter to have a relationship her father because she did not. I guess I’m wrong about that. Sad Halle, simply sad.
Please stop with he can’t be a racist, during slavery white man killed black men and slept with Black women, so stop it.
But we’re not in slavery times. Gabriel proudly dated a black woman for years and had a baby with her. This is vastly different from white slave owners who raped slaves.
Poor Nahla but that nanny has no right to question why Nahla wasnt at school and Halle has empowered this nanny to think she has a say in what GA does with his daughter. Halle is pathetic.
Jesus take the wheel
I hear you, Amen to that!
So y’all are basically sayin lets overlook the fact that he pushed and cursed out the nanny in front of his child its ok because he got set up and Halle is crazy. GTFOH
Innocent until proven guilty maybe? Or Halle’s history of accusations within this custody issue? The fact that the nanny works for Halle and she wants sole custody of her daughter?
Personally, I’m on the fence with this one. Lets see what the outcome of the investigation is. So far, all I see is the nannies side of the story.
Poor little girl though.
thank you. its soooooooo hard to believe that the man nobody really knows who obviously has poor taste in women would ALSO have enough poor judgement to push a nanny
I agree with you. No matter what Gabriel does it is always Halle’s fault. She was not even there. Ugh people are crazy!
word.
cause he is good-looking he gets the pass…and halle is “nuts” because she has a bad track record of picking abusive men.
not fair.
custody battles are intense…he has alot to be angry about…
the visits need to be supervised. period.
maybe he wasn’t suppose to get her from school and not call halle or the nanny?!!!
No. I think she’s a liar. Like her employer, Halle.
I’ve really come to believe that Halle isn’t just a ditzy person like I used to think but that she’s actually a bit sociopathic and willing to do anything to get her way.
That said, I await even worse false allegations against Gabriel and you know what they will be. She really is an awful person. I tend to think a judge will see right through this ploy by Halle. She probably should not have primary custody.
Not just because “Halle is crazy” but also because he is a “hot” dad. The nanny was probably worried about Nahla and wanted to make sure she wasn’t sick since it was the nanny’s job to PICK her up from school. If Gabriel would have told the nanny that Nahla was home for the day and no need to pick her up then this could have been avoided. But I guess it’s just better to suspend all logic and put all the blame on Halle.
WORD.
Why is everyone so sure Gabriel didn’t try to tell the nanny? When people are trying to set someone up they’ll pull all kinds of stunts and games. Like never answering their phone or calling back.
Halle’s pattern is all too familiar for mothers trying to force a father out of his child’s life. Halle doesn’t exactly have a stable past even into her late 30s so it’s not a stretch to believe the worst about her.
A lot of people don’t buy it because–
1. There’s no proof other than the nanny’s word.
2. The nanny is employed by Halle.
3. And possibly there because Halle forced the supervision-by-nanny in court.
4. Halle has pulled a number of dirty tricks in the media to try to discredit Aubry.
5. Halle has a history of making up shit to get her way–like saying she had amnesia after a hit-and-run.
Personally, I don’t care what either of them look like, and I’m inclined to think they’re both batshit crazy. But Halle has all the power in the relationship–she has money, status and fame–while Aubry has nothing (in comparison). It hasn’t seemed like a fair fight, ever, which is why, IMO, people tend to side with him.
the judge doesn’t quite seem to buy it either and has refused to issue a restraining order. The nanny also is suddenly alleging he was violent with her back in June?
I feel so bad for that little girl
Succinctly summarized. Don’t forget she just got engaged to someone who lives outside of the US (?). I was waiting for this B.S. to begin again. I empathize with both Nahla and G.A. due to not having any/much power in this relationship.
What a mess. If that’s Halle’s nanny, then I would also be suspicious. I’d like to hear the whole story.
Bottom line….they need to put their child first.
Hmmmmm well she might just be after some money here. She could sue him and Halle, sell her story to the tabloids, etc. Let’s wait for more details.
Thank you CB 🙂
Just a few thoughts:
– Why does the nanny feel she’s entitled to decide what happens with the child? If Nahla was indeed sick and he kept her home then the nanny shouldn’t protest about that. Berry and Aubry are the parents, either he should’ve called her or the nanny should’ve called one of them or both but she is not in a position to make demands. She’s still an employee, no matter how close she is to either of them (or the child) or no matter how strained the parents’ relationship is.
– Why would the nanny just go to his house without a heads up? Phone one of your employers and explain the situation before making decisions yourself about what to do with a child that isn’t yours.
– The nanny shouldn’t be questioning him at all. Again, why would she start accusing/questioning him about HIS child? He is still the father and that always (well, until now I guess) trumps a frackin’ nanny. She should’ve phoned Berry and let them deal with it. If she cared about Nahla’s well-being at all, she should’ve left the matter for the time being and talked about it on neutral ground with Berry and Aubry present but not with Nahla around. A child shouldn’t see a secondary caretaker lecturing her own father (that would make me pissed too actually). It’s confusing for a child. Adults should discuss matters with adults.
However, all that above looks pale in comparison to the possible trauma/future daddy issues this child can get because of the selfishness and emotional issues Aubry has. A man has no business whatsoever pushing a woman. Real men don’t attack women, there are other ways to deal with conflicts. Nobody should resort to violence when dealing with matters. I still believe Berry made some things up and we all know she is Crazy but this is bad enough to take away his child or at least put him under strict(er?) rules when seeing his child (short visits with objective supervisor – NO NANNY) and anger management classes. I don’t give a frack about his aestethics, actions like this make people really ugly and I find it so sad that Berry is proven right with these kinds of events.
@NM – I always look forward to your comments and I agree with nearly everything here except for the last bit. I’m still side-eyeing the nanny’s account of being shoved to the point where she fell (with Nahla in her arms) and injured herself. As I said when I commented earlier, I didn’t even read the police report, nor did I follow the TMZ link to review any further details. Like many people here, I hear about this situation and I recall the crazy-ass accusations Halle unleashed in court about Gabriel. This nanny “works” for both Gabriel and Halle but methinks she will always side with Halle – where the money and fame is. It makes sense having one nanny for a little girl who is torn between two homes. I think this nanny was way out of line questioning Gabriel and maybe she snatched Nahla to return to Halle’s home and Gabriel was preventing her. I dunno…I’m totally speculating. However I will be lining up to throw stones at him if he indeed “assaulted” the nanny without provocation. There is so much shadiness that anyone in Halle’s corner has lost credibility with me.
@NM9005
Everthing but the final paragraph; you are assuming the nanny is telling the truth and this should be treated with skepticism.
She is in Halle’s employ and makes accusations that sound too similar to Halle to just be accepted as factual out of hand.
I’ve personally witnessed an ugly custody case in my life. I have personally witnessed a mother walk up to the father, violently pull the child out of the fathers arms, trip backward from pulling so hard, hit the truck that was behind her, which kept her from falling, and scream as loud as she could “You hit her!”. The father took one step toward the mother out of concern for the child, the mother then screamed “Don’t hit me!” “Don’t hit me!”. I knew both of these people for over ten years, neither had ever been violent. But at this time they were engaged in a custody battle and the mother was very controlling and angry that the father had ended their relationship. It was beyond ugly, and this type of thing never stopped until the mother re-married. The child was psychologically traumatized to a terrible degree. My advise to the father? Considering that she (the mother) was willing harm the child if necessary, give her her way as much as you can. Sadly, Gabriel may have to do the same to avoid worse and escalating trauma to Nahla. The world is not fair, and in any custody dispute it is always the CHILD who suffers.
Granted no one knows for sure except the nanny and Gabriel Aubrey how true this report is, but it screams shady. I don’t think either of them have handled this well, but the crazy meter is firmly pointed in her direction.
I’m sorry, but I don’t think I really buy this story. One, in no pictures has that child ever looked frightened or even hesitant around her father. Two, I would think that if a mother really, really thought that her child was that in danger of physical, mental and as been hinted at, possible sexual abuse, there is no way she would EVER leave her kid unattended with the accused parent. It seems like none of these accusations started to fly until he didn’t do what she wanted. I swear that when they initially split it was amicable, and she doesn’t strike me as someone who would hold back on the dramz for the sake of public appearances.
That’s a good point. If I had the slightest feeling my child wasn’t safe with someone, there’s no way I would leave them unsupervised with that person. Heck, I’ve done it.
She’s going to be so beautiful when she grows up (I mean, how could she not with those parents).
She really is a stunning little girl. Poor kid — I bet she’s stressed as all with this nonsense.
…and again…the woman takes it up the arse.
Actually, Halle is the one with the strap-on, posed above Gabriel, ready to thrust without the benefit of lube.
HAAAAAAA!! nice one 🙂
If I remember correctly, he can only have Nahla under supervision. http://www.celebitchy.com/186771/gabriel_aubrys_time_with_nahla_must_remain_supervised_why/
It sounds like he kept her home, which is against court rules requiring the nanny’s presence, cause he “felt like it”. Keeping your kid home at that age is no big deal, but doing it against a court order is. The nanny might have even been innocently questioning him thinking the kid was sick, who knows?
Either way, it is unacceptable for him to blow up and shove his nanny, especially with his kid in his arms. Whether Halle is crazy or not, this situation between him, the nanny, and Halle was approved by the courts to try and allow both sides access to the kid while PROTECTING the child. I feel sorry for the kid but I sure as heck wouldn’t want to be the nanny in the middle of that mess!
EXACTLY!!!!
This is what I don’t get: he supposedly can’t have Nahla without supervision, but she stayed overnight at his house without supervision? Am I missing something?
Halle seems bitter that Gabriel didn’t just give up his parental rights. If she wanted the kid all to herself, then she should’ve just used a sperm donor or used a man ( a la January Jones) and moved on.
Will he hire Jose Baez to say the nanny was a molester?
Nah ~ that’s Halle’s game!
I don’t see why it’s so crazy that the nanny would ask why Nahla wasn’t in school. If she is the one caring for her, wouldn’t she need to know if she was sick or had an appointment? Even if she was on her way home from work, it seems like someone who has that sort of relationship with a child and their parent might just casually ask. And this is even without assuming that the nanny was the one who was supposed to pick up her charge and she wasn’t where she was supposed to be.
I agree with you there. I worked as a nanny for years and you can bet I’d be a) worried to death if the kids weren’t at school when they were supposed to be and b) ask what was going on when I got to the house.
That said, I’ve worked for some pretty unpleasant fathers, and I was very, very careful with how I approached them.
I doubt he shoved the nanny.
Gorgeous kid.. I wish her the best..
I’m not even going to read the comments first because everyone is going to once again blame Halle and claim she set everything up.
First off, Gabriel is a grown ass man and even if it was true, no one has control over his behaviour but him and if he took the bait, so to speak, that is his own dumb ass fault.
Let’s get some facts/ plausible assumptions straight:
1) This nanny is both of theirs, and I am going to assume he had a say in help picking her out. And since everyone is always toting that Aubry has his own money and success (which he does) he is most likely paying a part of the nanny’s salary too.
2)He kept his kid him from school (which is not bad, it’s his prerogative) and while I understand the help have boundaries, since she does belong to Halle’s payroll as well and knows they are not on the best of terms, she probably just wanted to be able to report back to Halle the situation. Why get up all in the messenger’s grill for doing her job? Both of them probably make the situation stressful. Pushing her with Nahla in her arms and cussing at her was totally uncalled for, if these allegations are true and I believe they are.
3) And if he wanted to keep the child home from school he should have informed the mother or at least the nanny so that there wasn’t any confusion. It’s called co-parenting and he is just as responsible for holding up that end of the bargain as Halle.
I FEEL VINDICATED! BECAUSE I TOLD YOU THAT BITCHES WERE ALL TEAM AUBRE AND HATING ON HALLE ON SOME SUSPECT SHIT!
Why, because Aubry is pretty? Halle has a bad track record with men, she picks serial cheaters and abusers to be in relationships with, and she does it for a reason. What made Aubrey any different? I’ll wait? But I think I know why.
He is a human being just like everyone one. He is not a victim. Halle is flawed and he is too, the only difference being Halle has shared with us her flaws and because she has done we use it against her. I’m not negating Halle’s problems but I’m sick of people taking her ex’s words about her lying about their dirty ways since the bitch has 80% hearing lost in her left ear, Eric Benet did cheat multiple times and there is no excuse, and David Justice was a total jerky prick. Aubry probably wasn’t as bad but I bet you he was bad enough for Halle to choose him. The fact that she is dating world renown cheater Olivier Martinez says it all.
I’m sorry – its well documented all over the internet that Halle has serious issues. You cannot honestly think people are making assumptions because Aubrey is good looking? Its Halle’s past behaviors that carry merit. Educate yourself before you start throwing “facts” around.
Yes. The way people look does have an effect sometimes on how people react towards situations. I just stated that Halle has issues but when it comes to this court custody matter whenever Halle is involved all allegations are taken as fact while all of allegations against Aubry is taken as fiction. And this this really has nothing to do with Halle’s cray cray issues.
People are saying she lied about the abuse she received from some of her exes. In my opinion, because of her issues, there is no reason to believe she is lying about that. She subconsciously seeks out men who are controlling, abusive, cheaters, and manipulative so she can be a victim. That’s over simplifying as there are other more complex emotions in there. She grew up with this in her home. She has yet to break the cycle.
Halle’s issues don’t explain why Aubry consistently gets a clean pass when we know nothing about him to determine he is just Mr. Perfection. I don’t think people even realize they do this, it’s subconscious.
Halle isn’t a good mother either with such bad taste in men she isn’t being a good example to her daughter. The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree so she is likely teach the little girl about being self-righteous and stupid. I know I am being a little off this morning, but women like this I can’t stand. And I would never be with a guy I had to fight with in court. So I have no respect for other people who are that stupid.
Standing ovation!
Btw, good people knowledge (first paragraph and the “because Aubry is pretty” thing)!
EDIT:
So serious issues > abusive to the help with presence of child? She did’t have court ordered supervisions, he has. And picking out wrong men vs. violence is hardly a comparison. She can’t help fall in love with bad men, it happens to the best of us. I can’t believe people are trying to make her look like the evil one when he’s the one who’s being investigated as we write! Sure, she’s crazy but I don’t believe she’s hurting her child like Aubry is doing. Plus, Aubry stayed with Berry too and he fake dated Kardashian, what about HIS judgement? Does he get a pass and why?!
I find it horrifying that people wait to hold judgment until proven otherwise but Berry is being harped on for wrong choices IN THE PAST! How can she proof herself when people can’t let go of their initial prejudices? She can never so whatever she feels is right for the protection of her child, she should just do it because she can never get approval from the public (or better yet women) and she doesn’t need it either. Her child, her choice. I used to defend Aubry but now? Sorry, keep perspective folks, for the child’s sake. This isn’t a battle of the Better Parent but for the Future of Child.
@Naye and NM truth dot com!
I am really concerned about the state of women’s lib when we are so ready to take the word of a man because he’s been dipped in god dust. ALL OF HALLE”S MEN were beautiful, not an ugly one in the bunch, unless you count Olivier, but he was hot back in the day….LOL. And guess what? All abusive or cheating or both.
And like you sad Naye, people tried to blame Rihanna too! I side-eye any woman who can talk that shit. It means her parents raised her poorly.
Some pretty people do the ugliest things.
So people are goin to get mad when i say this…and im not saying it happened her on CB…but this is the same kind of ignorance that defended Chris Brown. I had people convicting Rihanna of assaulting him when there was no evidence to prove the fact. and then was told there was none to prove she didnt, he must have been provoked…..
my point here is . MAN put HANDS on WOMAN. I believe the woman until proven otherwise and i dont give a DAMN is she was up in his grill about his daughter.
Halle may be crazy but she isnt the one who filed the Police Report. stop letting his pretty blind your common sense.
If youre going to use Halles past against her how about using the fact that she DOES pick abusive a-holes, and he might just be one of them
I don’t think you can really compare this to the Rhianna/Chris Brown thing…I mean, there was overwhelming photographic evidence in that case.
I don’t know what really happened between GA and the nanny, but it just seems fishy that she didn’t file the police report until a couple days after the incident. I’m not really knowledgeable about police reports, but if she had any kind of injury, wouldn’t the injury be stated on the report? If he really pushed her that hard, wouldn’t she at least have some fading bruises or something?
he had absolutely NO say in picking this nanny out and Berry made sure he had to use the nanny she hired to supervise him instead of allowing him to hire a nanny of his choosing.
@TheOriginalVictoria,
Thank you!!!! These points were exactly on my mind as I was reading the comments!
so Halle isn’t as crazy as you all thought after all?
just a mother protecting her child?
haha
I think they both have issues and I think he should not be violent in front of the kids but I also understand his frustration. He is in a typical case where the mom is trying to alienate him from his daughter. And if a nanny dared question me about my child being in school or not she would be fired in a heartbeat. Halle does not want to share. Period. And why the heck does a 3 year old need to be in school? Yes, school is good for you but she is 3 years old? Now if this was regular school that would be one thing. Halle always plays the victim. There are so many disgusting selfish women in hollwood, Kris Jenner, Halle Berry, etc.
If Halle wasn’t a noted cray-cray person then this story would carry a lot more merit. I just find it hard to believe as he seems so doting..but you just never know what goes on behind closed doors. He probably did get mad being questioned by the nanny – its none of her business what he decides to do. I hope he didn’t shove her or whatever else happened..that poor baby.
I threw garlic at my boyfriend once cause I didn’t fancy throwing the knife
I hope the little girl grows up ok, shes so pretty
That made me laugh out loud. My brother-in law once threw a Tupperware container, then got scared, said, “This is getting out of control!” and left. Still makes me giggle.
I realize you are using examples from your life where no one was hurt and nobody felt the need to call the cops but sadly if the Gabriel/Halle/nanny situation above involved Gabriel throwing a food item or a Tupperware container, people would be yelling abuse. I realize people say and do things in the heat of anger they don’t mean to do but joking about throwing objects (be it garlic or a plastic container) is not funny. I’m not hating on either of you but since we’re jumping down Gabriel and/or Halle’s throats about violence, I don’t know if it’s appropriate to laugh about these things.
I don’t know — I guess I’m the kind of person who draws a very firm line about certain issues, so I’m able to laugh when someone thinking “Gasp! Domestic violence!” over minor slips in judgment.
That said, I certainly don’t want someone throwing something at me. Ever. Not a pillow, not a sock. Point taken.
So you all still find a way to blame Halle even though she was not there? It is not a problem that he cursed in front of his child or assaulted a woman holding his daughter! This only proves there is something to the previous allegations. What a bunch of Hippocrates!
Wendy, I love you! Thank you. Halle can be cray cray all she wants, but what the fuck does that have to do with the WAY AUBRY HANDLED THE SITUATION?!?!?
The nanny has a job to do. And if it was my job working for BOTH parents, and I see the child in my care whom I am normally responsible for during set hours, is not there, I’m going to investigate. She could be kidnapped or anything since she has two famous parents. People said she could have called and not come at his house. Well he could have be considerate and called her and save her a trip. Get the f–k out of here.
People need to stop making him this paragon of virtue and take it for what it is. He may just have some anger issues. He may not be as squeaky clean as his pretty blond hair blue-eyes make him look.
Agreed! 100%
Halle’s being ‘cray-cray’ does have alot to do with how he acted–or MAY have acted–in this situation. When you have an unstable, demanding woman who’s employee is watching your every step with your child every moment that has got to be very frustrating. But, what I think we are questioning is the validity of the nanny’s claims. We all know that Halle Berry plays fast and loose with details on just about everything. Relationships, marriages, car accidents, etc. THAT is why many of us are suspicious of her accusations of Aubry. Not because he’s attractive–Berry is drop-dead gorgeous, so you could argue that people ‘on her side’ are only there because she’s hot. Or because she happens to be the mother. Fathers usually get the short end of the stick in custody cases whether they’re celebrities or not. People almost always take the mother’s side. But, when this particular mother has years and years of lying and manipulating the press to make herself look like a victim it makes people suspicious.
Some parents (and even childless people going thru a divorce) will do and say literally anything to get what they want. My sister has 3 ex-husbands (and 2 more ex-fiances) who absolutely hate her guts because she is so cut-throat. She has a very “I need to screw him over before he can screw me” approach. She has been in court constantly for 20 YEARS fighting for more child support, making claims of sexual abuse, neglect, violence, fighting over shared property, she even took Ex#3 to court because their daughter was constipated because he always fed her too much mac&cheese). And my sister is a smart woman with a Master’s degree, a powerful job and six-figure salary. When I separated from my ex-husband she encouraged me to do the same thing. Her viewpoint was that our son was MINE and I had to do anything and everything I could to keep him all to myself.
THIS is why I’m suspicious of Halle Berry and her nanny’s accusations. Not because Aubry is pretty, but because Berry has given us plenty of evidence that she is a conniving, dishonest, unstable woman who will do or say anything to get what she wants. And what she wants is that poor little girl all to herself. She has decided that she has no use of Aubry herself anymore and he’s just something to get rid of. Unfortunately for her he didn’t just go away like she hoped. And she’s completely willing to fight dirty to get him to go away. Most of my sister’s now adult children have figured out what she did to their fathers and the lies she told over the years and have either acted out or distanced themselves from her. I hope this doesn’t happen with Berry, Aubry & Nahla.
First, check your spelling. Second, check your premise that everything that shows up on TMZ is true.
Stop trying to attack her spelling because she spoke the truth. That is so de classe.
It doesn’t matter what TMZ says because the OFFICIAL POLICE REPORT SAID IT ALL. TMZ quoted the police report. Try again,
That did make me laugh. Were that we all a bunch of Hippocrates.
Well…no one is defending abusive behaviour if it ACTUALLY happened..which no one knows if it did or didn’t. People are drawing conclusions based on Halle’s past behaviors. I find it really awful anytime a parent tries to manipulate a situation so another parent is denied access to their children. I think many people on here are looking at Halle’s well noted selfish and erratic behavior to think this whole situation is shady.
Gabriel is in trouble…I hope the judge won’t grant Halle’s wishes of taking away his parental rights because that would be unfair. It’s obvious that he loves his daughter and Nahla loves him too. They look adorable together.
What I don’t get in this whole story is that Gabriel is good enough to look after Nahla on location while Halle is filming. Back when she shot that movie with Martinez, I sometimes had the impression she treated Gabriel like a paid employee, not like the father of her child.
It’s all very suspicious.
she gives him that time. She could easily hire a babysitter. Hes not doing her any favors
He doesn’t love her too much if hes pushing a much smaller woman while she holds his child…that is if the story is true.
I’ve noticed in the whole Halle/ Gabriel drama that neither parent is demanding a child psychologlist step in and analyze Nahla for signs of abuse by either parent. Instead of focusing on the well being of their child they choose to maliciously throw accusations at each other in the media. And honestly who gives a shit about these two nut-birds? The child should probably be taken away from both of them. I tend to believe they both abuse and manipulate that child. Parents often say and do nasty things during a divorce. I come from a home where my parents were married until my Dads death and yes they fought, screamed and threw shit when they were mad. They loved us kids but they never thought about the effects it would have on us. With that being said, a child psychologist should be brought in as part of the investigation.
I think this is the most apt response. With each side blasting the negative behavior of the other to the media, I think it would be prudent for a neutral, professional to assess the emotional and mental well-being of the child within each household.
I think that the behavior of these ‘parents’ in this situation is quite despicable given that their public spats will last for an eternity on the internet. What is going to happen to Nahla when she’s old enough to read through all of these reports and allegations against both of her parents?
I also think that the court should order a gag order on both parties. If these allegations are true, the bulk of the judgment would need to occur in a family court whose proceedings should be private to the public.
I wish our legal system was strong enough to really support the best interests (always) of children and not just mediate for a soft solution for the parents. Each of them should have to go to mental health counseling and parenting classes. Any negative parental behavior should be reported to the family court, with judgment and consequences dispensed from there.
But how much has he blasted her in the media? I don’t think he really has.
If you’ve never dealt with a mentally unstable person, it’s easy to take this story on face value and assume the nanny is the victim. But if you put this story in context, it’s pretty easy to believe the nanny is lying.
You make a very good point, LadyBird. It’s always good to keep perspective.
this is the second time I’ve read of Halle claiming her ex throwing around racist words and phrases.
Either she’s into white supremacist underwear models or shes making a mockery of herself as a black woman and of those who’ve suffered TRUE racism everywhere.
She ought to be ashamed. I’m sure she isn’t
Racism can occur in many forms. One being a racist entering a relationship with a person he/she hates to destroy that person from a very emotional and deep level. Most of the time, abusers aren’t violent in the beginning, it’s after the initial lovey dovey period that they start to show their true colours. How can we know for sure Aubry isn’t a racist or abuser? They are very charming and manipulative and a picture doesn’t tell the whole truth you know.
She seems to play the race issue up when it’s convenient for her — “I’m black,” even though she was raised by her white mother; “Nahla’s black,” even though out of her entire family, only Nahla’s mother is partly black. Yet she got plastic surgery to downplay her African-American features and to me, has disrespected the woman who raised her by selective identification.
My babys father is dotes on her but that fool is still crazy. dont let being sexy fool you. those are the worst ones
Wow! now we know why women will never rule the world.
This man laid his hand on a woman who was holding his child = not okay. any mother would not be okay with. full stop.
YET, surprise, surprise, Halle’s past is being dredged up. Are you kidding me? Is it so far-fetched that she’s simply a mother trying to protect her child?
I’m actually dumbstruck! Are we actually going to rationalize Gabrielle’s behavior.
Interesting to note how much vitriol Chris Brown gets in comparison to Mr gorgeous.
Well said! Fassenbender gets a pass when its reported he abused his ex, then a story comes out saying they were spotted together. What man in his right mind would be seen with a woman who brought charges against that could destroy his budding career? But of course the victim is the crazy broad??? Sad state of mind some women have when it comes to things like this when a pretty white man is involved.
Really? This is what tells you women will never rule the world? Pretty flimsy. Nice generalizing.
Chris Brown was found guilty of battery. He beat the crap out of someone. That’s different than being accused of calling someone a name or breaking a piece of furniture.
I’m not understanding why everyone is going after this nanny. If it’s the nanny’s job to pick up Nahla from school, then YES, if she was kept home from school someone OUGHT to have told her. Perhaps she was asking because she wanted to know if the child was ill? I mean, the nanny is the one caring for the child when the parents are busy, right? So knowing why Nahla couldn’t go to school that day would probably be part of her job. Regardless of why she asked (what I think is a perfectly reasonable question, pushing and yelling is NOT a reasonable way to interact with anyone. Especially someone holding your child. IF it is true, it is unacceptable behaviour on his part.
I agree!
So many people are quick to defend Gabriel just because they hate Halle. This involves a third party!
It’s horrible if it’s true, but we’ll have to wait and see what the courts decide.
I would totally believe that Halle set this whole thing up and told the nanny what to say. She wants the child for herself like a prize and she won’t stop what she’s doing because she feels she “entitled” to have the child to herself.
All the photos of Aubrey and Nahla together show a close trusting relationship – not fear.
If this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome
can occur then you shouldn’t wonder how the interpersonal relationships of other people who DO have a connection with each other can treat each other. There are so many abused children/adults out there that are confused about their upbringing and will even go as far to defend their abuse. Speaking from experience, it’s extremely hard NOT to love and defend your caretakers. There is a lot of guilt and other mixed emotions paired with disconnecting yourself from your caretakers and seeing their wrongdoings. A smile on your face doesn’t necessarily means you’re happy (Klum and Seal, princess Charlene… yet with Aubry we’re supposed to believe a smile means hapiness?) besides, she smiles with Berry too so really what’s your point? Deriving happiness from a photo vs. witnessing how they live behind doors is something else and it’s something nobody will ever truly know.
Wow, I can’t believe the comments here!
We all know Halle is unstable. She has a history of picking abusive men for relationships. Is it so hard to believe that this man is also unstable as well?? They’re probably both screwed up!
I don’t get why everyone is so quick to defend him. I wonder if he wasn’t a blond, good-looking model would people be so inclined to?
If the nanny filed a report and had injuries, then to my mind there’s something there. She shouldn’t automatically be discounted because she works for Halle.
I feel bad for Nahla. Hopefully they get to the truth and sort this out. It would be really horrible if all the allegations are true about Gabriel, so I’m hoping it’s not. But I’m not giving him the benefit of the doubt because he has a psycho ex. People who date psycho’s aren’t so stable themselves!
word. you dont stay with crazy that long if you dont have a little bit in yourself to handle it
God, he is so flipping hot.
Would it really be so shocking to find that Halle Barry has a pattern of picking abusive men? Wasn’t her father abusive to her mother.
Everyone is using her past to assume she’s crazy, but her past also establishes pretty good odds that he is abusive.
Huh. I’ve been pretty solidly in the pro-Aubry camp, but you do have a point. These new allegations definitely make me re-think my heretofore high opinion of the man.
Would it be crazy to accuse every man you had a relationship with of abuse? Would it be crazy to say there is a pattern of unsubstantiated accusations, publicly maligning these men while playing the innocent victim?
All the people saying Gabriel is believed because he’s good looking must be on crack, Halle Berry is good looking too but that is not rellevant at all.
Everytime i see Gabriel with Nahla she looks happy and content, if a child is scared of a parent they arn’t gonna look like that.
Halle Berry is a notorious crazy, she’s selfish and weird… It’s obvious that the Nanny works for Halle really and the “asking” why Nahla was at home was probably with attitude but i don’t believe he pushed her at all, he may have shouted and he has the right especially after all the bs Halle has been saying. If i were him i’d sue her for slander or something.
Nahla looks happy and content when she is with Halle as well yet you’re saying she is crazy so whats the difference?
@Lara: Excellent point!
These celebrities are able to hide the darkest dirt with photo ops. They look happy and all is wonderful until we find out it isn’t.
How many people knew about Mel Gibson’s dark side until his drunken rant? Or that Chris Brown was abusive until he beat the sh*t out of Rihanna?
Photo ops tell us NOTHING about who these people really are. It’s just a pretty picture. Anything is possible…
I didn’t say Nahla wasn’t happy with Halle, Halle obviously loves her but so does Gabriel…
The problem is that Halle wants Nahla to herself and to push Gabriel out of her life.
You can’t stage a four year old girl’s emotions. She ALWAYS looks happy with both of them and probably is very happy and comfortable with both. (That said, I think Halle is vindictive and crazy.)
Who says it’s staged? Her smile can be real, the meaning behind it however can differ. Ever been in an organisation that houses children who are not allowed to live at home anymore? There are children as young as two who have been abused by their caretakers yet when mommy or daddy visits them, they are still happy to see them. I saw a mother totally disintrested in her own child until she found something to entertain herself: paint her child’s eyes with colouring pens! Crazy people yet the children long for attention, any kind of attention since they think it’s love. It’s a very complex matter that can’t be explained in a few paragraphs on a blog. It’s heartbreaking too because that cycle is hard to break, who doesn’t want to be loved by the people who raised you and are supposed to love you?
However, in Berry-Aubry case, he is the one that has a court order and is now being investigated. If he truly had dirt on her or thought she was a bad mother then Berry would be in the same position as he is know.
Original Victoria:
Keep spreading that knowledge! Sorry to hear about your father but you’re being very rational and adult about it.
There is more than one way to abusive to someone. And someone being a shitty partner does not mean they can’t be a good parents. My father was a total douche to my mother, but throughout my entire childhood (not so much as an adult) my father never laid a hand on me even when I deserved a spanking, he was involved in ever activity in my life, never lived more than a two block radius from me, taught me how to hunt, fish, bike, skate, lead a healthy life-style and was the best father a a girl could ask for. He was also emotionally abusive to my mother, a serial cheater, and a dick head. He became an alcoholic and things took a nose dive in our relationship when my mom passed but it is possible for parents to reserve their bad behaviour for one another.
I question why you choose to overlook the fact the Nanny is employed by the both of them. I question why you assume that Halle is cray cray but that Aubry cannot be as well just because pictures show him carrying his child around. Since I question your entire thought process it is plain to see why you can’t see that IN SOME people’s minds Aubry’s appearance and what he projects is nothing but an angel faced god of a man who any woman would be lucky to have. Even though we know nothing FOR REAL about him that backs this story up.
Halle has not made an issue of covering up her flaws to the public. She speaks about her problems quite openly and while Halle is pretty when it comes to relationships in the public eye, the person with the most baggage is almost always considered the bad guy.
Nicole Simpson was a serious drug abuser, was seventeen when she hooked up with OJ knowing he was married, and did her own share of dirt. We’re putting her gruesome murder aside for what I am about to say; with all the shit Nicole did, she was still painted as this woman who was just the victim. She was never given any responsibility for some of her bad choices. OJ carried all the weight. Yes he beat her and that outweighs everything, but that didn’t make Nicole blameless and perfect.
Again, public perception plays into this! People pick sides sometimes and for the wrong reasons. I don’t think any woman should put up with abuse no matter how flawed they are, nor should their flaws be overlooked just because of their abuse. I have already stated that Halle has major problems. And it is because of her issues that she has to go through all this crap now. But people are all on Halle’s jock strap, that they refuse to be reasonable and rational about this situation. It takes two to tango each and every time.
^^ This 100%
Seriously! Pretty is as pretty does! You can still be a douche!
you’re right there’s more than one way to abuse and causing (or trying to cause) parental alienation is child abuse
I’m not denying Gabriel could be a jerk. But the context and circumstances, along with all her past relationships, make this sound fishy. Yes, she could be repeatedly dating abusive men. Or she could be a pathological liar. Have we heard *any* other women who have been with the same men come forward with stories of abuse? It seems to me eventually someone could corroborate her stories but I don’t think anyone has.
I don’t think Gabriel is abusive. This smells of a setup. Halle has been trying to shut Gabriel out of Nahla’s life ever since they split and especially once she got with her new beau. She wants him to be Nahla’s Daddy and has been doing everything she can to discredit Gabriel to try to get full custody with no contact from him.
I think it’s really selfish and spiteful of her. She isn’t thinking of her daughter who clearly adores her father and from what I can see the feeling is mutual. With all her money she may end up winning and getting Gabriel out of Nahla’s life but it’ll come back to bite her in the butt later on imo.
That’s right, its a set up. Halle orchestrated gabe putting his hands on their mutual nanny. Yup its always the woman’s fault. Even if you want to believe that Halle is crazy, it doesn’t excuse what he POSSIBLY did. Facts of the matter remain. The courts found something they didn’t like about him so much that he is the one that gets SUPERVISED visitation. Even if you believe the nanny who by the way wasn’t informed that Nahla wasn’t in school, asked her employer what the situation was, he has NO right degrading her and putting hands on her with HIS DAUGHTER in his arms.
I realty think people aren’t looking past his pretty to put two and two together. The court found reasonable cause to order supervision, and this incident only confirms Cray Cray Halle accusations about his temper.
Agreed.
Even it it was a set-up then this man is provoked very quickly! And if he knows Berry is keeping him on a tight leash (for a reason!) then he definitely should’ve known better. You would think that he wouldn’t let violent emotions get the better of him for the sake of his young beautiful daughter?! If he has issues then he should focus on solving them. That’s what a responsible father and man does. Setting-up…sheesh…
The whole point is that there is no evidence he put his hands on the Nanny besides her own word.
She is obviously taking orders from Halle and not both of them or she wouldn’t have had the tenacity to question Nahla’s FATHER about why his daughter wasn’t in school.
I’m not saying he didn’t do it but fron all that’s happened so far it seems more likely that Halle is pulling strings to get Gabriel out of his daughters life and replace him with her latest guy, Martinez… and i don’t think Olivier is in on this btw, Halle is just a crazy proven time and again.
Halle is an insecure, controlling nut bag. I think the courts need to flesh out the truth and not take the word of a nanny most likely hired by Halle….Gabriel is right, it is none of her business whether he sends Nahla to school or decides to spend the day with her himself. I think Halle is trying to manipulate his right out of the picutre.
Totally off-topic, but: That Nahla is so beautiful. She’s going to be a heartbreaker.
Yeah, I don’t believe any of this. The pictures of daughter and father together speak volumes. I think all of this is Halle’s crazy machinations. She has a lot of money, power, and pull, and can bulldoze Aubry if she wants to…and she clearly does. Unfortunately, I bet this guy is going to be edged out completely at some point, probably sooner rather than later.
I’ll repeat what I said before – Nahla aslso looks happy and contented in pictures with Halle but most people here are quick to say she’s crazy etc. I’m sure that she is nuts but just because she is doesn’t mean that he isn’t if that makes any sense at all!
What does Halle being crazy have to do with Nahla being happy with her? It’s obvious that Halle loves Nahla and Nahla loves Halle but Halle is taking her crazy out on Gabriel not her daughter.
@TheOriginalVictoria:
“…he doesn’t understand how that makes a person who had been abused feel, in which case he needs to work out that.”
In which case they BOTH need to work things out.
One of my friends was married to an abuser – sexually, physically, emotionally. You name it, he did it.
Once she got away from him and finally started dating again, perfectly normal behaviours from her boyfriend would scare the hell out of her.
If he asked for sex, she would be reminded of all the times that her ex had raped her. If he raised his voice, she would be reminded of the times her ex would storm into a room, scream obsceneties at her, and punch her if she tried to talk back.
And so on and so forth.
Where I part ways with you is that I think she had to work on her fears as well. You cannot expect someone to walk on eggshells for the rest of their lives, never engaging in normal behaviour, because someone else was horrible to you.
Again, my issue is not with Halle. We already know that Halle needs to work shit out with herself. I am talking about Aubry. HE IS THE FOCUS. Not her.
I have never said Halle was blameless. My opinions are about making sure that we don’t hold Gabriel blameless for the wrong reasons.
Team Gabriel! I know some folks who knew him before he hit it big in modeling and met Halle, and the FACT IS – he’s a solid guy. Another SAD FACT is that Halle wanted a “whiter” child and she used Gabriel to get one. Helle (typo and it stays) has SEROIUS issues, among them, her own “blackness.” Gabriel isn’t the one with race issues, SHE is. Halle has been trying to work Gabe out of his daughters life since they split. The “Nanny” is HALLE’S employee, period, and does her dirty work. This whole “supervised visits” with Gabe thing came about ONLY because Halle has the $ power, and if all you ladies don’t think the courts are corrupt and favor the mother, well you’re bloody blind. Parental alienation is a serious issue, so many women USE the “weaker sex” thing to punish the father for LEAVING THEIR CRAZY ASSES, by LYING to the courts claiming abuse by the dad. The very word “visitation” makes my SKIN CRAWL. How demeaning is that? Halle is considered the “real” parent and Gabe is someone who just “visits” with his daughter? UGH! SO INSULTING TO MEN! I used to do pro-bono legal assisting for alienated fathers, and you simply wouldnt believe the number of good, loving fathers (decent men all-round, respectful of women too) who had to deal with endless trips to courts by manipulative, selfish, wicked exes who were punishing them through the child. Additionally, every time Halle drags Gabe into court, it costs him BIG $. He makes good money but come on, not even close to her financial might. She’s systematically weakening him by hitting him where it hurts – his relationship with his beloved daughter, and his pocketbook. Halle is SERIOUSLY mentally disturbed. And Olivier should be ASHAMED for backing this. SHAME! I feel sorry for Nahla that her OBVIOUSLY loving relationship with her father will be forever tarnished by Halle’s relentless BS. SHE’S A BITTER B!TCH BECAUSE GABE COULDNT STAND HER CRAY CRAY ANYMORE AND LEFT HER, PERIOD. These crazy chicks will go to any and all lengths to manipulate. That nanny is a B!tch employed by Halle and I have NO DOUBT that she is acting as Halle’s muscle, and talking to Gabe in the same degrading, demeaning way Halle does. A man can only take so much! These women push and push and PUSH DELIBERATELY, and then cry foul when he finally blows! Would any of you ladies like to have your life hijacked for 18 years by someone who was a pathological, crazy liar, who just WOULD…NOT…LET…UP. Eventually it makes a person snap. This is being realistic. Who is the abuser? Halle, for setting this whole thing in motion in the first place, by manipulating the court into FORCING A LOVING FATHER TO HAVE “SUPERVISED VISITS” OMG IT MAKES ME SO MAD. Gabe has been dragged though the ringer for years by this woman, has had to endure so much headache and insult, yet he keep FIGHTING FOR HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH HIS DAUGHTER! Don’t give up Gabe! Halle is going to make it as difficult and degrading as she can to try and get you to fold and walk away, but DON’T! Stand firm and know that one day when Nahla is grown, she will respect and appreciate that you fought for her and still has her REAL FATHER (hear that Oliver…it ain’t YOU). Blessings to Gabe and Nala, and as for Halle, she needs to be stripped of custody, period. ANYONE with eyeballs can see that in photos, Nala looks SO HAPPY with her dad, and in pics with Halle, she always looks sad and/or stone faced. I’m NOT stupid, I realize that some men are abusive. This is NOT one of those cases.
Last post from me on this, I’m sorry I can’t help myself:
@ Jolene
Her mother played the race card then because she damn sure was the one-and this is confirmed not made up-who raised Halle to carry herself and understand that she is a black woman first. HER MOTHER. Stop trying to make Halle the bad guy because we live in a world where racists created these social mores. I’m so tired of it. I just can’t. Unless you know what it means to be mixed and during the time Halle grew up then have several seats. And just because Halle identifies herself as a black woman doesn’t mean she is immune to the pressures of society’s views on black beauty. She’s fucked up, we get it.
@whoever said Halle’s cray cray behavior will affect how Aubry treats her. Bullshit. He is a grown man and Hollywood is a small town, and since everyone on this board seems to know so much about Halle and how much she has lied, fucked, and what not, then I’m sure people in the industry know even more about her. And he hooked up with her cray cray ass, knowing all the shit that’s been said about her. I understand action and reaction, but really none of that has anything to do with what went down yesterday. Even if he got “set up”, he took the bait which means that somewhat some of the things that he is being accused of are true because Halle knows what buttons to push. In that case, still not seeing why Halle gets all the hate because Aubry has fought dirty too. Again, they are both wrong then, not just Halle.
At JC. So we’re supposed to take the word of someone who knows someone who know’s Aubry that he was a “SOLID GUY” Okay, be that as it may you can be as solid as you want to be, but NO ONE knows what goes on behind closed doors in a relationship between lovers. Things happens. Being a SOLID GUY doesn’t make you perfect and incapable of hurting other no more than Halle having issues makes her an evil harpy. The truth is always somewhere in the middle.
Halle probably does have issues with race. A lot of black people do, and if you’re biracial it gets even trickier. But really, the claim that she wanted a “whiter” child? Halle has been with every shade of black men known to man and I’m going to give her credit and assume she didn’t have kids with them because she knew it wasn’t safe to bring kids into that type of environment. If anything Halle tried many times to have marriage with in her own race (yes I said it!) and she’s always wanted to be a mother So your idea that she held for a white dude to have a whiter child just to endure the controversy that came with her saying her children would be black, is really funny.
While I concede that there are many loving fathers who are wrongly accused and denied access to their children, I see this as a societal issue. Women, in general, in this country have been preaching independence and “I-don’t-need-a-man” for so long that some of this attitude trickles down in to parenting and the man is often pushed to the side as nothing but a mere sperm donor. Children born of out of wedlock suffer from this the most it seems and I am willing to believe that Halle wanted to be a mother and she really didn’t give a sh-t about who the father was in truth. That I do believe. I believe she didn’t think that Aubry would fight that hard if push came to shove, but I also believe that Aurbry is not perfect and she chose another dude with issues of his own.
Christ, you guys, can we eighty-six the word “cray cray” around here? It is harder to both say AND type, and sounds like something a gaggle of cutsie 12 year old girls would find hilarious. I don’t get its appeal.
zelda you cray cray girl.
ROFL!
This isn’t about a set up by Halle or if the nanny had the right to question him.
It’s about, “Did he push the nanny with his child in her arms?” That’s the issue.
Exactly the point I was trying to make earlier-not whatever crap TMZ is currently peddling. No whatever issue commentators bring in from their own experiences and with their own bias. Not whether it’s always about slagging the woman or man involved.
Police reports do not establish facts-only what a single person has told the police at a later date. And this is almost a direct reprise of the Oksana/Mel claim so I am more dubious.
Particularly in situations where there is friction between the parents, the court orders regarding custody will very specifically delineate the drop off/pick up time and location for visitation. It’s not unusual to have this done at a firehouse. So, it appears that Aubry was to take the child to school and Halle or the nanny was to pick her up.
It’s also possible that Aubry is required to report any illness to Halle. Furthermore, the nanny may have been chosen by both parties. I currently have a domestic violence/divorce case where the parties are selling their house. The real estate agent was chosen by mutual agreement of the attorneys.
People are assuming that the nanny’s manner was insolent. Perhaps it was but perhaps not.
Let the police and DCFS do their job before we jump to conclusions. Also, the court can require that that a mental health professional evaluate the custody situation. In California they are known as 730 evaluators. Based on the report and other evidence submitted the judge determines what type of custody arrangement is in the best interest of the child.
ANY of you ladies EVER work with alienated fathers? Well I have. And it’s not pretty. The reality is, you ladies are NUTS to think you can b!tch and b!tch and b!tch and tear a man down, marginalize and degrade him out of his child’s life, and make his life a living HELL, come at his pocketbook by dragging him into court endlessly, and then WHINE when he SNAPS – which is EXACTLY what you WANTED! So you can run into court and say, SEE??? God, I’m almost ashamed to be a woman. So lame, ladies, so lame! And don’t for a SECOND try to blow this out of proportion by suggesting that Gabe is an ABUSER! That nanny DESERVED to be shoved. If it was me, I would have slapped the sh!t out of her. Wicked wicked ladies!!!!
And some of them aren’t.
Now calm the f*ck down before the court orders you into a mandatory anger management class for “slapping the shit out of” someone.
So let me get this straight, it’s TOTALLY FINE FOR HALLE TO SLAP THE SH-T OUT OF GABE? Which she does. Not physically, but EMOTIONAL ABUSE is horrific to deal with, esp when it’s relentless. HOW MUCH CAN A MAN TAKE? HE SHOULDN’T HAVE TO! Halle has been abused in her life, and now she’s abusing. Plain and simple. She hates men, fundamentally deep down. I HIGHLY HIGHLY doubt that Gabe shoved HALLE’S B!tch of a nanny, but even if he did, I have no doubt she absolutely deserved it. You ladies make me seriously SICK with your double standards and hypocrisy. Dish it but can’t take it. After all the CRAP Halle and her snotty evil nanny are putting him through, and he yells back, and all of a sudden it’s the feminist brigade out in full force. BARF!
I don’t know what Halle Barry did. I don’t know her. Neither do you. And for the record, I don’t even like her.
But your mysogynistic loathing (self-loathing?) is my issue. All women are not crazy bitches, and you have anger issues.
here! Here! that nanny has been empowered to speak to Aubry like he is nothing…i take the phrase …’she questioned him’…as evidence. WHo the hell does she think she is?? HE is the child FATHER. That to me shows just how much he is disrespected to the extent that the household employees can ‘question’ him.
Going to the police is also overkill in my opinion. Unless Aubry beat her up naomi campbell style, or this was a regular recurring series of abuses culminating in this shove out the door.
Are we now saying that Aubry has to do what the nanny tells him to? is that part of the custody arrangement?
What a horrible, horrible sitaution.
In which case you would be guilty of battery and child endangerment. Congrats.
We are entitled to bodily sovereignity, which prevents Gabe from hitting/shoving. The legal system will not protect Gabe from his ex using the legal system to advance her case.
Is Halle being unfair? We cannot know. What we do know is that he laid hands on a woman holding his daughter. There is no justification for doing what he (allegedly) did.
What a nasty thing to say. Sounds like you might be “cray cray”
You don’t know anything about this woman, yet you condemn her as DESERVING to be slapped all because she asked why the CHILD SHE IS PAID TO LOOK AFTER wasn’t in school????
Wow, I have no words.
halle’s nanny, hired on purpose to bring down gabriel. shame on you halle berry. you should be locked up!!!!
Such a beautiful child….i am praying for her well being and hoping she grows up all right.
Okay first of all I’ve been here…in the “babymomma drama” zone. I am the babymomma from hell you all speak of. If he were smart he’d do everything in his power to make his babygirl feel safe and happy not scared during a visit no matter what the deal. I also agree the Nanny needs to fall back and mind her business. She is an employee not a court appointed social worker. So It’s none of her business if he kept her home or not. She should have noted it in a report to the mother and let her deal with it. Maybe he wanted a DADDY DAY! Since Halle is such a wicked and bitter bitch she won’t let him. Either way POOR BABYGIRL. They both need to get over themselves for the sake of that precious little girl. they all need counseling.
The nanny went to pick up Nahla at school and she wasn’t there? If I went to my kid’s school and was told he hadn’t shown up I would sure as hell race back to the last place he was to look for him. Sure, this is the nanny, not the parent, but a missing child is just about the scariest scenario I can think of, for anyone. Personally, I would prefer a nanny who has parent-like instincts when it comes to a possibly danger situation. She didn’t call? Well, she was probably driving frantically. She got to Aubry’s house and saw the kid and rushed to her? That would be my reaction too. She yelled(?) at Aubry, asking why he would put her through sh*t like that? So would I.
Nahla wasn’t “missing” she hadn’t attended at all that day, therefor she must be at home with whomever had her the night before.
All the Nanny had to do was call Gabriel and find out, that is the sensible thing to do.
Or the sensible thing to do would be for gabe to call his nanny, and she is his nanny also, and tell her that she doesn’t need to pick nahla up from school because she is with him. Not doing so probably violated court instruction. No matter how much people may dislike halle, Gabe is the one with court ordered supervision. And the court puts that in place for good reason. The nanny asking what happened when she wasn’t given COMMON COURTESY in regards to what she was hired to do speaks volumes about Gabriel “I’m desperate for attention so let me date a kardashian” Aubrey. Halle has her issues, but she stated about his violent temper in front of their daughter doesn’t sound so off now.
Thank you!
I agree with fabgrrl. Apparently this woman deserves to be slapped for DOING HER JOB just because she is associated with Halle Berry…
What a scary world we live in!
@ThatBoyLuke: Gabriel deviated from the schedule. The onus was on him to notify the nanny and/or Halle of this change.
If this happened in reverse, and it was Gabriel’s schedule time to have Nahla and she wasn’t where she was supposed to be then he would have every right to be confused too!
Again… there is no evidence besides the Nanny’s word that he PUSHED (not slapped) her and since she’s obviously under Halle’s controll we shouldn’t just take her word for it. Even if she wasn’t Halle’s lackey what happened to innocent until proven guilty? So many men (and women) have been accused by jealous exes of things that they didn’t do.
As for Nahla and School we don’t know that Nahla was meant to be with Halle (since the Nanny (on paper) works for them both) so maybe Gabriel didn’t send her in and forgot to call the Nanny because she was gonna be with him anyway, or maybe he forgot full stop… Either was the Nanny’s getting paid to be an EMPLOYEE not an inquisitor, She’s gabriels daughter and appart from the story about him pushing her he let Nahla go with her so he obviously isn’t trying to keep Nahla from Halle, wish the same could be said for Halle’s behaviour.
She’s the NANNY not the PARENT she needs to know her role. The child was WITH a parent…HER FATHER and contrary to popular belief he HAS just as many RIGHTS as a mother in this state. He doesn’t have to answer to the hired “help” and they should have had to agree on an impartial party to be the caregiver in the event of a parents abscence not Halle’s preferred antagonizing PI/Nanny. Halle is BITTER and needs to control her EGO it isn’t ALL about her anymore there is a little girl that needs both her Mommy and Daddy to GROW UP and get along. This is damaging not only the Father/Daughter relationship but the wellbeing of the babygirl. If she was THAT concerned for Nahla’s safety she could have asked for an emergency “Ex Parte” hearing to be held in the next 24hrs which she has not.
@ThatBoyLuke: Commentors upthread have declared the nanny deserves to be slapped. I didn’t say Gabriel slapped her, I was noting the ridiculous about of vitriol spewed at the nanny on this thread for DOING HER JOB!
I don’t think asking why the child wasn’t in school is being an “inquisitor”
I believe in innocent until proven guilty, HOWEVER plenty of commentors on THIS THREAD have declared Gabriel is “innocent” because the nanny “must be” lying due to her association with Halle!
I apparently responded to the wrong person on my mobile….I agree with you Fabgrrrl, this is mostly how I see it playing out in my head. With him not yelling but condescendingly SAYING, “you’re just the nanny, don’t ask me questions”.
HOWEVER,
1-I have seen SO many times where someone larger brushes/bumps into someone smaller and ends up “pushing” or knocking them down. As a Kindergarten teacher I’ve accidentally done it and seen it happen with the older children so I know that if her senses were heightened something that wasn’t meant to be a push could end up a push especially if yelled obscenities are accompanying it.
2-Does no one else find it odd that if this went down like this, this report doesn’t include Nahla crying over this incident. If If I was being a vindictive part of a plot or had been pushed I would have noticed and included that he also emotionally troubled the child in an observable way but maybe the 2-day wait in reporting clouded her memory. The lack of this inclusion or happening is a bit odd to me. If I were a judge and someone told me this but didn’t mention that the child who was there at that the time and in the arms of the person who was “pushed” and almost fell while being “yelled” at, I would question if this really went down as its being portrayed. Maybe that’s just me.
That being said, pushing her caretaker in her presence (while she was in her arms to make it worse) is frightening. Physical altercations shouldn’t be observed between either of her parents or any other care-giver of hers and shows a lapse in judgement IF it happened and IF it were the first time. But I’d expect some kind of reaction from Nahla IF it were a serious push that included yelling and not just some accidental knock with condescending words.
Wow. Well, a police report is entirely one sided. It’s based completely on what the victim says, when, and if, this goes to court then Gabriel will get to tell his side of the story. Also as the nanny states Nahla was there the police will have to get a child psychologist to question her regarding what happened. If Halle picked this guy to be a sperm donor then thought he would go away she picked the wrong one. Gabriel was raised in 5 different foster homes from an early age till he was 18, so he could be the type of man who would absolutely not walk away from his daughter. Unfortunately all this will play out in the press and the internet.
I agree with you Fabgrrrl, this mostly how I see it playing out in my head.
HOWEVER,
1-I have seen SO many times where someone larger brushes/bumps into someone smaller and ends up “pushing” or knocking them down. As a Kindergarten teacher I’ve accidentally done it and seen it happen with the older children so I know that if her senses were heightened something that wasn’t meant to be a push could end up a push especially if obscenities are accompanying it.
2-Does no one else find it odd that if this went down like this, this report doesn’t include Nahla crying over this incident. If If I was being a vindictive part of a plot or had been pushed I would have noticed and included that he also emotionally troubled the child in an observable way. The lack of this inclusion or happening is a bit odd to me. Maybe that’s just me.
Are you people freaking kidding me!? I am so disappointed. By and large I am a huge fan of this site but after today I won’t be back. You better prey to God this child hasn’t been harmed by this man just because you don’t want to believe a brown woman woman. Over. A lot Hite many shame. On you. And for not noting that YOUR SITE is one of those group loft people shows deep down you know. How wrong yoare to laugh at real issues in our real world.
Shame on YOU for turning this into a racial issue! This has nothing to do with Halle being black. This has everything to do with her acting demonstrably unhinged and accusing he father of her daughter of EVERYTHING under the sun just so she can have sole custody. She’s an asshole. She may possibly also be a victim, but when you’re an asshole, people have a hard time sympathizing with you.
How do you know these accusations aren’t true? The courts also seem to agree with Halle thus far in every decision that has been made.
@LeeLoo
Oh, I have no idea what’s going on with them at all, and I’m not saying it isn’t true. I’m just saying that this thread and these commenters aren’t dumping on Halle because she’s black. Her race has nothing to do with the fact that she’s a total asshole, and like I said, it’s hard to sympathize with an asshole even when they’re right.
Personally, I’m Team Nahla. Not an Aubrey or Berry fan at all. I’m way more entertained by the commenters here.
Are you serious?! You’re obviously the one with a racial chip on your shoulder…
I’m mixed race and i don’t believe a word Halle or anybody in her employ say because time and again she’s been proven as manipulative, crazy and selfish and from what i’ve seen of Gabriel (besides Halle’s storys) he seems like a great guy.
@ThatBoyLuke:
“and from what i’ve seen of Gabriel (besides Halle’s storys) he seems like a great guy.”
Here’s where your argument falls apart. You don’t KNOW Gabriel. All you’ve seen is pictures and stories on gossip sites.
We have past evidence of Halle being “cray cray” but since Gabriel isn’t as famous, we know next to nothing about him in comparison. He doesn’t get a pass with me because his sources say he’s a good guy. Halle’s sources defend her too.
I’m reserving judgement on whether Gabriel did this or not until it’s proven in court. I’m not automatically discounting the nanny because she’s associated with Halle. Besides, I think the nanny actually works for BOTH of them!
I know I know…BUT
You haven’t seen ANYTHING of Gabriel to determine either sentiments except for what you see in pictures which is indicative of nothing.
Let’s deal with some of these accusations against Halle.
She’s left the scene of a hit and run twice, so people already hate her. What she did was wrong, but that doesn’t make her evil. She was scared and she made a bad decision, like many of us have in life. I can see where she can been seen as having issues with accountability and lying maybe. I don’t remember all the dets of the case so I’m not gong to get deep with it.
Halle is evil because she won’t claim her “whiteness” and a hypocrite because she had a nose job like just about any other star (white people who have non-comforming features also get shit done right)? So now, Halle has issues with white people and is a racist (I wish people would stop throwing that word around without understanding what racism means) but wanted to have whiter daughter because she has race issues. GMAFB!
The rest is about her relationships with men who did her dirty and of course are going to bring in all her drama to take the heat off of their wrong doing.
Is she controlling and manipulative now? Has she turned into that? Most likely, as many victims of abuse from childhood and into adulthood develop these forms of behaviour. I believe that she is not above playing dirty to keep her child exclusively hers.
But what does that have to do with Gabriel? Nothing. His character has NEVER been called into question by the majority because why? Halle’s shit is public, his isn’t. It doesn’t mean he isn’t capable. That is my issue. Everything may be true that he is just being treated unfairly, but it is NOT A FACT. Only speculative supposition based on what people want to think about two people they DON’T KNOW.
You keep stressing the fact that the Nanny had no right to question Aubery. The nanny obviously had a routine of picking up the child from school on the regular and was concerned. I don’t know how deep her questioning went, but if she was employed by both of them and Aubry did not have the decency to inform the mother (my father NEVER would have done that to my mom)what he was doing with THEIR child) or the Nanny she was most likely collecting information for Halle. Either way all he had to do was tell her the child is fine, she can come collect Nahla when they are done bonding and email Halle that he felt THEIR NANNY was out of line in her questioning and they need to set some boundaries. That is the rational thing to do.
The point is that he acted irrationally as it is alleged. Being under investigation, he SHOULD HAVE NEVER GIVEN HALLE A REASON TO SET HIM UP if this is the theory we are going on with. He is the one who has to play it by the book, not the other way around. All of this proves that Aubry as nice of man in general and as good as a father he may be, is HUMAN and no without err just like HALLE.
That really is the only point to this entire situation. That and the constant hypocrisy people love to input in this debate.
Well then BYE!
You are assuming everything this Nanny said is true. You mean a FATHER got angry and actually raised his voice? HOW SHOCKING! You mean he felt insulted being questioned by a NANNY hired by a bitter ex about the care of his own child? How dare he! Gimme a break any father going through the same thing would have reacted that way. I doubt that child was in any real danger. So she heard her dad cuss out the nanny…so what that’s not illegal and from what I’ve read at TMZ the judge seemed to agree. Score one for Gabriel…welcome to California where DADS actually have rights.
In every statement I have made I have said allegedly, because it’s not fact. Just like it’s not fact that Halle set him up. Just like it’s not a fact that Halle is incapable of taking care of her child because she has issues. We all have issues.
So what if he has rights? The court has still ruled in Halle’s favor so his rights obviously mean shit to the courts of California or else.
Gabriel being a parent, does not give him a right to raise his voice at anyone when it’s unwarranted (we’ll leave out the physical contact part. The lady was doing her job. And if this shit was reversed I have the feeling you and your whole, “To Hell With Being Rational” crew who love to call Halle “bitter” would be seeing red SINCE YOU PERSONALLY KNOW HER and all her evil cray cray ways.
All ready to take someone’s side just because you thing you have the facts about one person. Puhlease. They are both immature acting and need to grow up for the sake of their child. Full stop.
What are his rights exactly? Screaming at the nanny? Do you find it normal that Aubry would let his daughter hear how he goes off to other people even to the point of getting physical?! Nice lesson in respect and controlling your emotions. That’s the example a father gives to a child? A child shouldn’t hear people cussing and swearing, it’s very scary and threathening no matter the age! What kid of mind set is that anyway? Just because you’re a parent doesn’t make you entitled to treat your child like cr*. And it’s telling you say that because it means that even if he did do it, it wouldn’t matter anyway. He clearly gets a pass, whether this event occured or not so really the discussion of the realness of it seems to be redundant from the start if you waddle through this threat. Despicable.
I wonder if Berry was the one who pushed somebody and cussed, you would still be defending this case. Probably not, since Berry is crazy and nobody puts anything besides her right? It’s ridiculous how people put Aubry so high upon a pedestal you don’t even question the realness of the report and spit on even the notion of Berry being a mother.
Another thing, it says a lot that the nanny (a woman) isn’t believed to be attacked by a man. Funny how that happens daily with the majority of the women out there who seek help to get out an abusive relationship. They also get questioned all the time. I guess all it takes is a charming handsome man and a so-called b* to toss away all objectivity. Sad sad world.
Oh so because I thinks she’s bitter she doesn’t have rights? Now it’s gone from kicking the nosey nanny out to ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIP? LOL!! You keep assuming what this nanny said is true. She didn’t even get a TRO granted and those aren’t hard to get. So get real and stop being so uber sensitive. Obviously the judge agreed and like I said she can call an emergency Ex Parte hearing whenever she wants but the noms for Best Actress in a Drama has already been anounced.
I think it’s funny that people think Gabriel is being defended just because he’s hot. Like Halle is an ugly dishrag or something.
They are both physically attractive people. I also suspect they are both total douchebags.
I suspect the same.
I know the majority of the commenters here are going to blame Halle. I don’t understand once again how all of this can be Halle’s fault. If half of this is even remotely true the Gabriel should not be in contact with his daughter without some form of supervision.
Look Halle is not perfect and I will be the first to admit that she has terrible taste in men. But why does Gabriel get a pass? Yes, Halle needs to take responsibility for the choices she has made in her taste in men. For the sake of her daughter, I hope she confronts that part of herself quickly before she jumps in to this relationship with Olivier Martinez any deeper. But obviously there is something going on with Gabriel, every single time Halle has taken this guy to court, it has ruled in her favor. Both of them have money to lawyer up and deal with it. Something’s wrong with this scenario and it tells me Gabriel may not be fit to raise a child. I’m sure many of you will come up with excuses and conspiracy theories to continue in your support for Gabriel and your hate of Halle but the facts are there. Even the court feels there are serious concerns about Nahla in this man’s care. As for the nanny, it is her job to look after the welfare of this child and it sounds like she has been a go between for both Gabriel and Halle. It sounds like she has been doing her job and if she has any sort of certification she is probably a mandated reporter. It sounds like he doesn’t have any benefit to taking sides in this fight.
I wonder how much the maid got paid to file this bogus report. Sorry, Halle is a crazy bitch and I don’t buy this for a second. She will stop at nothing to get Gabriel out of the picture.
The police report said this happened on 1/17 and wasn’t reported until 1/19.
So . . . Halle was so worried about her child she waited an entire week to seek a no contact order? Convenient how Halle jumped into action once the tabloids had this story and not when it actually happened.
So it happened Monday and was not reported until Wednesday? MLK (17th) day not a holiday in California? Courts were closed where I live, Banks, no mail delivery, no School. The plot thickens.
Crimes on holidays are still reported. Pretty sure 911 and police don’t close on those days.
And why isn’t anyone talking about the June incident unreported to the police and ignored by all involved? Or that it was Mom who told Nanny that her daughter was at Dad’s?
The amount of personal bias is truly awesome here.
Daycares/Pre-Schools do not always apply to the MLK rule. Daycares/Pre-School, at least in PA can pick and choose what holidays they wish to be open. My children’s school was open on Monday this year and next year they won’t.
Makes sense, so there may be a 911 call also? Here (NYC) everything was closed (only judging from people I know with little children, my children are offspring now :-)), parents make other arrangements if they have to work. Wouldn’t complaints be filed as soon as possible? Especially since the other eyewitness is a young child? Thank you for the answers ladies. I hope everything turns out well for the Nahla.
He is the childs father and I agree with him that he doesnt answer to the nanny BUT if he pushed the nanny esp while holding his child he should get some anger mgmt. help.
I imagine this nanny, hired & paid for by Halle, will do/say anything Halle says and there is reason Gabrielle doesnt like her/there is a history there/more to the story than we know.
Has Halle Berry ever had a relationship end where she did not make outrageous and defamatory accusations against her former partner?
Also why did it take 2 days for the nanny to file a complaint, maybe Halle needed 2 days to fabricate a way to ensure that Gabe does not spend quality time with his daughter without her controling it.
I would like to see Halle lose custody/visitation with her daughter for what she has pulled since he left her for me.
What did she pull? I’m not understanding why halle who does not have the court ordered supervision like gabe would need to have her parental rights taken away. Are you saying Halle who has claimed before that he has a violent temper used the Nanny’s claim to validate her claims??? I don’t know any parent that wouldn’t do that.
People need to stop thinking with their irrational hatred for this woman and look at one very clear fact, he had court ordered supervision with his daughter. That speaks volumes to me. He also had that restaurant that’s closed now, but the people that worked for him said he had a sour disposition and spoke poorly to them. I think gabe has a superiority comple and a nasty temper if these claims are true.
This entire thing makes me sick because I truly believe that Halle only used this guy to make a baby with…I know that sounds awful but I just cannot let the idea go. Then when he wanted to participate in childs life – it all went downhill for her so she went psycho and is pulling things out of her a$$. She probably didn’t want him to have anything to do with her childs upbringing at all. Who knows.
what an interesting thread. after reading all of the great points on here..im still not sure what to believe. i know halle’s not completely right (just thought of that hit-and-run incident too, that was a doozy). if the nanny is lying, i feel so bad for gabriel…and more importantly, that sweety pie, nahla.
He needs to bring in an expert on parental alienation syndrome pronto. A world renown expert. She so fit the category.Also request a psychiatrist evaluation. Court ordered. She won’t pass the test. She is borderline.
She is determined to recreate her unhealthy childhood come hell or high water.
I see Olivie M has full unsupervised visitation with her daughter, So a daddy is whomever your screwing at the time.
She was slowly and methodically creating this scenario. Setting up shots of her child with Olivier that no father could tolerate. Disney World was so to cause Gabriel to stew.
So if she wins in court. I say boycott her movies.
@mymy you are spot on! Thank heavens for the voice of reason. Cosign she would never pass & on dx. Brilliant!
If the nanny’s allegations are true, why didn’t the police arrest Gabriel for assault? If this was a pattern of behavior from Gabriel, why didn’t she report it to the court? To Halle? The nanny’s 1st responsibility is to Nahla. If she thought that child was in danger, then she should have contacted the court. She didn’t. Therefore, she gets the side-eye and I’ll wait for the court to decide if her allegations are true before I condemn Gabriel.
Well the judged denied the Nanny’s request for a restraining order, but that’s not a surprise, she has no evidence that Gabe would retaliate.
Halle has always struck me as a pretty woman, but needy as hell. Maybe it’s her posture, but there is something about her aura that screams low self esteem and needy, so it’s no surprise that she can’t pick a man to save her life.
January Jones strikes me as the same way.
Another pretty actress who is really insecure and needy. 100 for a dollar.
I do not understand Halle Berry if she loves her daughter how could she want to terminate the father’s parental rights. That is just cruel, in the end she is damaging her duaghter. Really just so vile.
Cannot stand this woman.
I just thought of an idea for Gabriel. If these are indeed fabrications by Halle and her team then why not put a secret camera up around his house and record all phone calls and save every email so that when she plants another nanny and a fake story he has something to show the judge and then she will be exposed for the lying control freak everyone thinks she is. I would certainly do this if I had someone scheming to take my kids away.
Maybe you and Gabriel both have great minds and all will be revealed.
Shame on all of you blaming Halle for this incident. She wasn’t even present. You guys hate her so much that you will stick up for this aggressive loser who assaulted a woman in front of his kid. I wonder how many of you have used kids as pawns so stop acting all innocent. Halle may have good reasons for her decision and it looks obvious. All men don’t stay the same after a child is conceived.
Word.
Apparently you have not followed the drama that is Halle. It’s not about one guy acting crazy its about HER acting crazy ALL THE TIME. The facts are there.
First impression… any fucking excuse.
But I’ll give it to those who think it’s not Halle’s fault.
I don’t know how the situation came about and why Nahla wasn’t at school but it seems like someone knows what buttons to push and someone else needs a little more control when said buttons are pushed whether directly or via the nanny.
Poor Nahla. I don’t think she’s in any danger from her dad, however a non-contact order could be damaging.
Quotes like “the nanny claimed that “when Nahla had a rash he refused to treat it” are designed to make him look bad when in reality he’s probably like a lot of parents who didn’t freak out and decided to wait to see what developed before rushing to the ER. Funnily they didn’t give an outcome to the importance of the rash.
halle has a history of being very unstable. that has to be taken into consideration when looking at this.
that poor kid.
@ol cranky, absolutely right. It sure is.
And so is BOTH parents acting like immature brats and not putting the welfare of the child first.
As for Halle hiring the Nanny with Gabriel having no say, I’d like receipts. And if there are well then fine, I’ll concede one or two of my my plausible assumptions and yet, if that is true it still doesn’t excuse the alleged behaviour and he played right into Halle’s hands. It doesn’t negate that people are blindly siding with him when they have no facts about what kind of person he is.
People should really abstain from
you’re right, people should put their kid’s welfare before their ego and desire to get revenge
that said, earlier this year, one of Aubry’s complaints in one of the many times they were before a judge was that he had no choice in selection of the nanny (and if you could find anything about the two of them not related to today’s accusation, I’d be able to provide a link).
I did not blindly side with anyone but her behavior has been erratic and seems vindictive. She went from being OK with Aubry as the child’s primary caregiver (even having him come to take care of Nahla while she was working) to suddenly blasting him as an incompetent parent and racist right after he balked at having to fly to take care of his daughter while Berry was filming (he had requested that he and the child be able to remain at home while Berry was on location).
I’ve read this thread all day, and I believe that he did not do this. I do think something went on, but that it has again been distorted by Halle, hence the lag is reporting it. Indeed, you can report anything to the police at any time, so if it was so bad she is seeking a no contact ruling, it should have been reported immediately.
That being said, I have to wonder how it came about that he could choose not to send Nahla to school of his own accord, when the facts are that he is not even allowed unsupervised visits?
If he did indeed call the school and report her absent, does the school, knowing the visitation set by the courts, have an obligation to inform Halle (or whomever represents her when she is unavailable) that he has not stuck to the agreement?
I wonder how it was he was able to do all this, when he is not allowed to even have Nahla unsupervised?
Or have I got the facts mixed up?
As to the Nanny questioning, unfortunately we will never know the tone with which the question was asked.
I was all Team Gabriel before this but I’m willing to accept the possibility that he may have pushed the nanny and that he does have a temper. Now one incident does not a habitual abuser make and I do firmly believe that they both love their daughter. I just feel for little Nahla and wish both Halle and Gabriel would put aside the drama and the resentment and do what’s best for their daughter.
Regardless of whether or not he pushed the nanny, he had an obligation to inform both the nanny and Halle that Nahla didn’t go to school, so if he didn’t then he’s a jerk. If, however, he actually told Halle and she deliberately didn’t inform the nanny in order to get him into trouble, then that is reprehensible. I doubt that Gabriel would deliberately do something that would jeopardize his chances of shared custody of their daughter. Furthermore, the kid always looks happy and calm when she’s with him. Would that be the case if he was the monster that Halle is accusing him of being? The whole situation smells funny, it’s unfortunate that the poor little girl is in the middle of it.
UPDATE:
Judge Gordon did not grant an immediate emergency order for either side because he believed there are enough protections in place to keep Nahla safe until Monday’s hearing.
The caregiver, Alliance Kamdem, had requested a restraining order against Aubry claiming she feared retaliation.
But today the judge also rejected Kamdem’s request for a restraining order, calling her petition ‘insufficient and speculative.’
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2091207/Halle-Berry-seeks-court-order-ban-Gabriel-Aubry-ANY-contact-daughter-Nahla.html#ixzz1kPYXQOT5
make of that what you will regarding who is right or wrong in this ugly situation.
I’m not surprised that the Judge has some serious doubts about what the nanny (and really, we all know it’s Halle behind this) alleged. As Gabriel pointed out, anyone can file a police report. A police report is only as true as the statements that are given so this is a “he said, she said” deal. Gabriel knows that Halle is doing everything in her power to cut him out of his little girls life. I cannot imagine him doing anything to give Halle yet another reason to drag him back into court. I think Halle got sick and tired of the delays to wrestle full and complete custody away from Gabriel to remove him from Nahla’s life and cooked up a deal with the nanny to trump some tiff out of proportion.
As far as accusations about giving Gabriel the benefit of the doubt because he is a physically attractive man? No. I give him the benefit of the doubt because Halle is an unstable person with a proven track record of lying when it suits her purposes.
I anticipate the Judge not doing a damn thing to change the visitation or custody arrangement currently in place.
Also, I think it’s probably just a matter of time before Halle does something completely disgusting like allege sexual abuse. She has truly sunk that low.
Uh-Oh… Looks like someone’s slacking on the hair brushing again.
Halle did not pick abusive men she created them in her twisted victim hood mind. The world according to Hale and her personality disorders. This is textbook example if a controlling narcissistic borderline. Gabriel has very little history of anything of the sort.
Did he raise his voice and the nanny . Most likely. I would love some of you woman to have a nanny tell you what is right and wrong regarding your child. Oh I am so sure.
Until you have the pleasure of dealing with the personality disordered you will remain clueless.
For the love of watching her actions over the last year. Would you please spare me the theory this has to do with thinking Gabriel is cute.
I have been watching Halle in the past months make sure her new man is seen always carrying her daughter. Even being seen alone with her no nanny in site. Have you seen Gabriel doing any of this?He seems to have his daughters well being in mind. You know a strong bio father and all. So yesterday. So old fashioned.
Move on pretty boy your services are no longer needed by this strong black woman. Please
And as a parting shot I’ll paint you out to be a racist and abusive.
David Justice abusive, Nope from what I hear Halle acted certifiable.
Remember this is a woman who was a mother to her husband child. A child whose mother had died. Did she bother with her again no. She thinks people are expendable. Even little girls who lost their mothers.Pure evil in my book
I have dealt with plenty of personality disorders in my cray cray family, thank you very much, but you nor I are Halle’s family, confidants, psychiatrist, etc., so for you to make any claims about what and who she is, is out of order. Do YOU KNOW FOR A FACT that Halle made up abuse allegations? Why? Because David Justice said so? Halle does pic losers. She picks losers so she can be the victim. That I believe based on what we know of her. But none of really know her. None of us really know Aubry.
Halle is certifiable? Because why? David Justice said so? Well, I know of people who knew David Justice when he was a Yankee and they could not stand his trifling ass. So I’m sure he was no picnic either.
Has she been throwing Olivier in Aubry’s face? Of course she has. I’m not saying she hasn’t. And Gabriel totally played the game when hooked up with Kim Kardashian which sparked a whole lot of this shit IMO. and it is only an opinion. And there is plenty of documentation on this site with people saying, “Oh he’s such a good dad from all these photos and he’s so cute. He looks like he loves Nahla more than Halle.” Truth. So no one is coming out of left field with this observation because it’s normal for women to get all wet at the thought of a doting father, especially when he as a little girl.
Again, I’m not taking up for Halle, I just think because everyone is focusing on Halle they are giving Aubry all kinds of free passes. Not cool.
“I would love some of you woman to have a nanny tell you what is right and wrong regarding your child.”
This exactly. Just turn it around and imagine that nanny talking to Halle like that. Ha! She’d hit the roof and so would I if spoken to in any disrespectful manner by my child’s nanny!
If Halle wanted no other parent to deal with then she should have used artificial insemination, then none of this would be an issue. But Halle used a REAL person to have a child with, and was in a relationship with him for five years. How is that now to just be erased? It can’t, their daughter deserves peace and both parents in her life.
TMZ have been known in the past to do some PR work for Halle, including smearing her EX. Oh, how low have Halle and Harvey sunk.
@Zelda. I hardly have anger “issues.” But RIGHTEOUS ANGER is a good thing. And FYI, I’ve lived in Beverly my whole life, and I socialize with people in the entertainment community all the time. and I DO KNOW FOR A FACT that Halle is 100% borderline and vengeful and messing with Gabe. We ALL feel so, so sorry for that gorgeous little girl. It’s horribly damaging to little girls when their fathers are marginalized out of their life. Halle needs help and I pray she gets it. But highly doubtful, as the self-denial goes waay to deep by now…
For a fact based on whose information? You know her personally. You’ve talked to her personally. You’re cool with Aubry’s people so your information is from them. They’ve let you see all the phone messages, court documents, videos and everything that has to do with Halle and Gabriel’s situation? Right.
I’m not calling you a liar. I believe you, I’m saying that you don’t know what is and isn’t FACT unless you are Halle or Gabriel. That is a fact.
Look, it’s a small community. Simply put. And NO, I’m DEFINITELY not some biased idiot who takes sides. I take my responsibilities as an advocate very seriously. And I really do feel for Halle, because it’s a terrible thing to have so little control over one’s self and actions based on past/childhood trauma/abuse. It would be amazing if she got help, but the chances of that happening are so slim. Olivier is a complete ass-hat for not encouraging the woman he supposedly loves to get help, instead of condoning the attempted ruination of a father and daughter bond, by going along with this madness (the disney pics for one example). Come on, mental illness is a terrible suffering, and his actions are enabling and sick, bottom line. Not only that, but he’s kicking Gabe in the balls, hardcore. Gabe is showing remarkable grace considering there’s two coming at him trying to snatch Nahla away for life pretty much. As for the courts, well, the tide is just starting to turn now that father’s advocacy/anti-parental alienation is being brought more to light; they still tend to favor the mom as being the more relevant and stronger bond, and that’s just wrong. Women with an axe to grind get away with so much via manipulation through the courts. It is notoriously difficult and costly to get a bad judgments reversed, even though it was based on bogus claims. One biased judge (and YES, there are a LOT of them) can set the stage for years of hell for the unfairly maligned parent. No one is a perfect person or parent, but when a woman really is so mentally unwell that she messes with her daughter and her father so badly, and uses money/power/status to do it, well, something has to be done to stop it. Halle’s ACTIONS are vile, but deep down she’s just a messed up little girl. Poor Nahla, she really loves her daddy. LITTLE GIRLS NEED THEIR FATHER JUST AS MUCH AS MOM!
Did anyone read the police report? It actually says that Nahla had not been to school for the past 2 days. The nanny apparently asked Gabriel if he had phoned Nahla’s school.
Gabriel isn’t allowed unsupervised visitation with Nahla, yet he kept her home with him for 2 days… and didn’t inform anyone? Not that I’m implying he did that for some sinister reason. But the adults (including nannies, teachers, etc) in this child’s life naturally want to stay abreast of her whereabouts. There’s nothing unreasonable or invasive about that, and honestly, the school or the nanny or whoever should wonder where your kid is when they don’t turn up. A good parent should welcome those questions.
This is pure speculation, but Gabriel and Halle both seem to have big, big control issues.
“It actually says that Nahla had not been to school for the past 2 days”
Didn’t this happen on the 17th (Tuesday)? Was Nahla in school on Sunday (15th),
and Monday 16th (MLK)?
IDK. I figured they meant she was kept out of school Monday the 16th and Tuesday the 17th and the incident occurred Tuesday afternoon. At 3 years old, I assume it’s more of a daycare than an official public school, and so she was expected there on MLK Day.
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Just thought I’d mention this since TMZ misreported the details. TMZ also says it happened on Wednesday the 18th, but nope. (It must be so frustrating to be a public figure going through a legal case and have people constantly repeating incorrect stuff as fact. I can’t even imagine.)
Thanks, agree it would be horrible to have incorrect info believed as if true if you’re a person in the public eye (HB and GA). People post like they were/are eyewitnesses and have so much knowledge about everything. I am not judging either of them or the posters. So much unsubstantiated info on this thread, its too deep for me. Hope for Nahla’s sake her parents resolve this situation. Lot’s of passionate responses, read more manana.
It was reported that Nahla was sick, and that’s why he kept her home. Gabriel is allowed unsupervised visitation with Nahla.
Guess I was wrong as of October 2011 he’s not allowed unsupervised visitation, and is required to travel to where Halle is filming to see Nahla when Halle is on location.
Is he allowed unsupervised visitation with Nahla? My bad. See above, re: incorrect stuff considered ‘fact’ by us onlookers.
I hope they have a wise judge because it can’t be easy sorting all this out.
Edit: Oops, didn’t see your reply before I posted. Anyway, TEAM NAHLA.
From what I gathered, the nanny chastised Gabriel for neglecting to tell ‘her’ that Nahla was not at school. I also read that Halle wasn’t even in town and thus had to fly in just for this hearing. So why does this nanny behave this way toward the other parent of Nahla? And, why is the nanny picking Nahla up when her other parent isn’t even in town? If Halle isn’t in town then why can’t Gabriel keep his daughter longer?
I believe Halle has set him up, as this is the same nanny who was put in the position of being present when Halle obtained a court order that all Gabriel’s visits with Nahla be supervised. That court order has since been lifted as no cause was proven. Gabriel has since petitioned the courts for more time with their daughter and Halle has fought him at every turn. I believe this nanny will see a big payday at some point directly from Halle.
I can not stand Halle, she’s always been unstable, always the ‘victim’, battered woman, victim of serial cheaters (which is what Olivier Martinez is known to be). Was found guilty of hitting another vehicle and then fleeing the scene unsure what kind of injuries she may have caused, then claiming she suffered from amnesia due to the accident, guess she doesn’t know how rare amnesia is. She’s controlling, and angry that Gabriel dumped her. She used their daughter to control Gabriel, even so far as to tell him who to date, or face the consequence of not seeing Nahla. That was the reason Gabriel even filed for a formal visitation, and custody agreement, because he was sick of Halle using Nahla to run his life. Halle is a woman scorned, and a bully who would use her own child to play the ‘victim’ yet again. Everything was fine between Halle and Gabriel after their split until he started dating other women, even though Halle was already with Olivier, when Gabriel pointed this out Halle told Gabriel that her relationship with Olivier didn’t count as it was just business.
I used to really like Halle, I can’t stand her after all this. I feel so sorry for their daughter, she deserves both parents in her life.
Exactly! You took the thoughts right out of my head.
The common denominator in all of Halle’s past and present drama is Halle. Funny how EVERY man becomes a villain after they split.
Let’s not forget she ran off after hitting a person with her car.
Team Gabriel.
@ aprayerforthewildheart: Quite accurate.
Hey JC great posts
Gabriel said the nanny tripped while holding his daughter.I bet she did. Came in with an attitude and picked up the daughter and in her frenzied behavior tripped while holding the child. She should be charged with child endangerment. If I were Gabriel I would hire a child psychologist to sit in on visitations and watch how the nanny acts. And take Halle to court.
I would also document all of Halle’s actions. He seems very passive to me.
He just wants to be a dad and avoid the drama. He seems unable to realize this will never go away.He needs to fight back. For the health of his child.
Borderlines create much drama. They really care nothing about it’s affects on anyone. Even their own child.
Mr you will pay for leaving her.
BPD Distortion Campaigns
Written by: Rob
One of the classic behaviors of a person suffering from Borderline Personality Disorder is the vilification campaign. The target is the person against whom the perpetrator Borderline conducts the vilification. The intent is to destroy the target’s reputation and thereby destroy the target’s relationships with family and friends, employers, co-workers, doctors, teachers, therapists, and others. The intent may even be to force the target to leave the community, put the target in prison, or even kill the target. As with so many things involving Borderlines and their typical inability to understand or respect boundaries, there really are no limits. They will use basically any means available to them to cause damage to their target, including denigration, endless disparaging remarks, fabrication, false accusations, and even teaching others (including their children!) to lie on their behalf as part of their vilification campaign.
http://angiemedia.com/2008/12/29/bpd-distortion-campaigns/
that sounds about right. however, maybe if he didn’t choose to take the little one to kindergarten that day, where she was clearly expected, he might have at least called to say so. just saying. a twit, or a text or even a quick phone call would have saved the hassle. to say the nanny is just a worker is ill-mannered. and of couse, he did say that. i just know he did, by looking at him…..having said that, she may well have been rude and creating drama. whatevs. the lot of them are dullards.
I’ve known people with BPD and they are unbelievably cunning. One minute they’re acting like your best friend, the next you find out they’ve been trying to ruin your life. If you in any way try to offer constructive criticism or attempt to correct their behaviour they will become irrationally abusive, say or do anything to destroy you, and the best thing you can do is walk away and not engage with them no matter how much it enrages them. Sounds like you’ve nailed Halle’s behaviour.
I think Gabriel is trying to protect his daughter by not publicizing Halle going nuts on a taped phone conversation. This nanny has no right to get in his face and demand to know why he didn’t pick her up. She is just the nanny not the parent. Halle is using this child to punish him. Maybe he left her and she is still angry.
Why didn’t we see or hear of Gabriel’s becoming enraged before the Halle fisasco like we did Alec Baldwin. I hope he gets a new attorney. Halle needs a psychiatric evaluation and she needs monitored visitation with her daughter not him.
At this point the only right is Nahla. But I was looking through a solved Blind Gossip post about this.
According to Blind Gossip: http://blindgossip.com/?p=23781
this all began when Aubrey started dating Kim Kardashian which they stated was only about publicity and wanting to get back at Halle. So Gabriel is not all innocent he just barked up the wrong tree because once you back a crazy person in a corner you will have HELL to pay and he is paying it right now. According to blind gossip the break up was amicable until Gabriel brought in the Kardashians and what mom wants their child being fodder for that cheap reality show.
Blind Gossip solved post: http://blindgossip.com/?p=23781
I would say Nahla is paying the price, but I agree that that is when this whole thing blew up. Seriously though didn’t they go to like one Laker game, and that was it?
Poor Nahla, shame on Halle if she’s really making all this stuff up, she didn’t have a father in her life so she’s wishing the same thing on her daughter. If Gabriel was this bad why did she stay with him and have a child, he just suddenly turned this way after they broke up, I don’t believe it. And if she wants to know what he’s doing with her on his time she should have to return the favor when she has Nahla. I don’t blame him for telling off the Nanny, if he’s breaking some agreement then she should call the mother and let her deal with it.
I could not agree more with all of you who say that Halle is in need of serious psychiatric help. I am so sick of the “woe is me” and “I’m the victim” role that Halle always plays. Maybe she did have some hard times in her life, but haven’t we all. It seems to me some of those situations she got herself into. I am also so tired of her comments about Gabriel and Nahla regarding race. If Gabriel had been a racist would he have ever have gotten involved with Halle? Come on. Nahla is a beautiful little girl and obviously has 2 parents that love her – 1 of those parents just wants to control the other, and now that she has a new man in her life, probably wants to cut her “baby daddy” out of the picture. This is more than her insecurities at play. Gabriel needs to hire a new attorney and be a more pro-active. It seems to me, he is acting in Nahla’s best interest, not Halle. If things don’t change, he could lose complete custody/visitation rights. As a lawyer who practices in LA county, I could tell you stories about our Family Law Judges who don’t follow the law, blatantly discriminate and can be bought. Don’t believe me? Start by searching for “LA Family Law Judges” and “Recall,” and “Barbara Hershey and Naveen Andrews.” One of the most notorious Judges (a female and mother, nonetheless) will pop up. She seldom follows the law or acts in the best interest of the child. Lawyers, fearful of having to appear before her at a later date and the retaliations they will face, will do nothing to challenge her when decisions are rendered that are clearly discriminatory and wrong. Now it has become the responsibility of the parties to seek removal of the Judges from the bench, which almost never happens. The Beverly Hills Bar Association decided last Fall that this particular Judges (who, coincidentally enough presides over a number of high-profile cases) should not be removed. Of course, the fact that her father-in-law was also a high-profile Beverly Hills Judge likely had something to do with that, along with the fact that her husband works for the FBI.
This is just one example of what goes on everyday and how someone with celebrity, power or money, like Halle, can take advantage of a corrupt judicial system. I have seen too many people lose their rights, in whole or in part, because they weren’t savvy enough to know how to play the game. The real issue needs to be on what’s best for the child and that often isn’t the case.
@ Amanda – Hear hear. Exactly!
Oh I believe it, in LA it’s Hollywood that makes the rules.
The police report is strange. It states that the nanny got to GAs house and that he opened the door and Nahla came out. The nanny then picked Nahla up and questioned GA if he’d contacted the school. The nanny then states that GA yelled at her then pushed her causing her to hit the outside wall near his door, as she never entered the house. She then states that if the door hadn’t been there she would have fallen to the ground.
In one of the pics you can see that the area around the door is very small alcove, and that when the door is open it covers the entire right side wall. So, did she hit the wall or did she hit the door? With the door open she could have only hit the left wall, how would the door on the right side have kept her from falling to the ground as she said? Her statement makes no sense.
Also looking at the pics there is a tiny front step area that a person could easily trip on, I used to live in a house that had that same thing, and stubbed my toe a few times, especially when my mind was occupied because I was carrying my son. whether or not GA cursed at her she could have very easily tripped just looking at the way the front door is set up, anyone could, especially if off balance because of carrying a child.
Just read on TMZ that the judge threw out the nannies restraining order and called her allegations “insufficient and speculative”. I think Aubry is still being investigated, though.
the judge must have been blinded by his good looks as previous commenters have suggested. lol . it can’t be that halle’s a crazy beyotch. *gasp*
May be it’s just me but I don’t believe that this was as big an incident as the nanny reports. I totally believe that Halle would encourage the nanny to exaggerate.
Halle is certifiable.
amen to that!
Wow! I don’t think one single person believes the nanny’s story. Myself included. I’ve heard/believed Halle is a nasty, spiteful shrew of a woman for a long time now – but a lot of folks fail to get that because she’s beautiful on the outside, not to mentioned a talented, award winning actress. But clearly still batshit to the hilt if she’s engineering this kind of insanity – and in front of her daughter no less.
Look at these two statements, what is this woman talking about she can’t even get the dates correct. Looks like a lawyer typed up the second one, and if she was so afraid why did she wait until the next day @ 10:45PM to report the pushing incident, and then wait until yesterday to petition for a restraining order? Did Nahla not have the same schedule as always? It’s just weird, now she’s saying Gabriel has pushed her ‘violently’ before, why wouldn’t she tell the police that? Also, why did she question Gabriel about contacting the school after Halle already told her Nahla was sick, and with Gabriel? Obviously neither of them contacted the school, as Nahla was with Halle on Monday, they were papped out to brunch with Olivier. At this point I wouldn’t be surprised if the nanny said she had amnesia…
http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tmz_documents/0123_gabrielaubry.pdf
http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tmz_documents/0124_Gabriel_Aubry_TRO.pdf
Definitely suspect as it’s Halle’s nanny… having said that, if it is true then he should at least have supervised visits. Refusing any contact will just screw up the kid.
Sounds like these two are using their daughter as a weapon against each other, and that is pretty awful. Glad my parents kept things civilized.
Obviously I don’t know the details of this story of their relationship, but Halle Berry seems INTENT on stripping this man of his parental rights. I don’t understand her motivations. Why wouldn’t you want your daughter to have her father in her life? People get into arguments or scuffles in life. How does that add up to…’You should never see your child again’.
It’s also funny how he turned out to be this vile, racist monster the moment they broke up and he wouldn’t bow down to her custody demands. Just my opinion.