This story just makes me feel very sad. In the past I’ve pointed out the very obvious ways that Octomom Nadya Suleman is a manipulative person and a baldfaced liar. If you’d like more background, you can visit this earlier post where I recapped some of her doozies. As many of you have mentioned to me, it doesn’t matter how much of a trainwreck she is, we need to focus on her kids. This woman’s primary role is as a single mother to 14 children who need to be loved and cared for. Nadya was delusional enough to get herself into this situation, and she remains delusional enough to stay there and to insist that everything is fine while her kids are really suffering. Her kids have one toilet, they don’t have enough clothes to wear out in the cold, and they’re sleeping on the floor. It’s disturbing. We learned these new details from Nadya’s hairdresser, who told TMZ that she went to the police with her concerns because the children are being neglected. If you’re able to, just watch the interview with the hairdresser below. You can tell she’s fed up with the situation and wants to help the kids. She’s not out to get Nadya or to shame her, she really cares. She said she even offered Nadya some bunkbeds for the children who are sleeping on the floor, but Nadya said everything was fine. Here’s the story thanks to TMZ:
TMZ has obtained pictures of Octomom Nadya Suleman’s home that have triggered a police and child services investigation into allegations that her 14 kids are living in horrendous conditions and are being grossly neglected.
TMZ broke the story, Octo’s hairstylist, Stephanie, went to La Habra cops Tuesday afternoon and filed a formal complaint. A La Habra cop and 3 reps from the Orange County Department of Children and Family Services went to Octo’s house Tuesday night to investigate.
One picture shows two children pooping in a portable training toilet in the backyard. We’re told the plumbing in the house is shot, and only one toilet is operational.
Another photo shows Octo just after she got her hair done. What’s shocking is that she locked her kids in the bedroom by propping a chair against the door so they couldn’t get out.
Yet another pic shows the children’s bedroom, with 2 cribs and a mattress. Stephanie told cops some of the kids are forced to sleep on the floor.
And there’s more … a pic shows some of the kids in the backyard, barefoot, dirty and wearing no pants.
[From TMZ]
In terms of the criticism of her parenting, Nadya has previously said that people are jealous of her, that she’s the best mother her kids could have, and that she’s buddy-buddy with the CPS workers, who just laugh off the tips they get about her. As far as her trashed home and lack of toilets or beds for her kids, Nadya showed TMZ her home herself a few months ago as evidence that she shouldn’t have to pay the landlord. Her logic at the time was that her kids had trashed the place so she didn’t have to pay her rent. There’s nothing that can faze her, or else she never would have got into this situation, and it never would have escalated this far in the first place.
One more thing, TMZ also has a story and an image of check for $520 that Octo paid the hairstylist for a Brazilian straightening treatment – at the same time she was collecting $2,000 in food stamps a month (she still is) and claiming she was unable to afford $150 to fix the plumbing in her house. I’m trying to be measured and stick to the facts here, but that really makes my blood boil. Why should I be surprised, though? I mean, we already knew this. Is CPS going to do anything about it, and is the alternative better for these poor kids?! I just feel so bad for them.
Here’s the interview with the hairstylist. TMZ has the photos of Octo’s trashed home as she proudly poses with her new blowout. How did spray paint graffiti get inside the house? It looks like Jesse’s place on “Breaking Bad,” like addicts were partying there.
Suleman is shown at LAX on 4-6-12. Credit: BJJ/FameFlynet Pictures.
The most surprising thing about this, of course, being that she has a stylist.
Thank you!! And where is Octomom’s family, her parents or siblings? This woman needs an intervention of some kind. If Britney Spears was put under conservatorship (?), then this woman also needs to be disempowered from making extremely bad decisions for others. It’s one thing of it was only her, but someone has to think for the kids.
She basically bankrupt her parents who tried to help her. Her own mother has said she is insane. If anyone ever saw her on The View, that was testimony to same. Someone take those kids NOW.
This is terrible to say, but from interviews, the way she has used her parents, and squandered and blown $$$, ill-gotten “student loans” and exhausted their resources has left everybody destitute. I think at this point, they are beyond caring because caring has brought about their own ruin, and Nadya seems not to care at all about ruining other people, since she’s done it for so long.
Britney Spears is an industry and has parents who care about her and her sister. The police and the world, through the media, were watching the awful scenes unfold, so they had no choice but to do something drastic legally, and they had the resources to get a lawyer to get it done and to pay for whatever it took.
Nobody in Octo’s camp has the wherewithall to accomplish something of that magnitude, unfortunately. They’re tired and done with her and her lies.
Her tragedy brows also need an intervention.
I want to say that the man who was moron enough to supply loads of his sperm to a woman who is so plainly troubled should be held financially responsible for the kids he helped create. But I know there are a lot of women out there using donors who don’t want that to happen lest the supply of sperm dry up. Our insane, whatever goes approach to fertility and babymaking today helped create Octofreak. The focus is solely on making babies, instead of where it should be: are there responsible adults involved who can adequately raise and support them. In this case, the answer is a resounding NO!
what…the hell is going on with her mouth?
she’s a terrible person, and that’s all there is to say about that. I am in no way jealous of her.
Not sure what’s going on with Octo’s mouth…it’s like a warped, inside out trout pout deluxe. Whatever she’s doing to it costs money…money she won’t spend on kids’ clothing, plumbing for her house, or mental health services for the whole family. Notice she’s always turned out in some age inappropriate Hollister get up, but her kids run around pants-less and shivering. The only time Octo told the truth was when she told an interviewer she hates her kids and thinks of them as “pieces of poop”. We have thrown her a bone long enough, she’s not just some harmless loon who loves her kids even if she’s overwhelmed by their sheer number. She only loves herself. Even her kids know that.
If that’s her hair post-BBlowout, it’s a crap job. Wavy and frizzled.
Her face is a hot mess. Beware budget plastic surg!
Why does she look completely different?
I am sad for thoes babies! Good for the hairdresser!!
The saddest thing on this Earth, is watching a woman having kids that she cannot take care of.
That selfish irresponsible monster that is often fed by misogynist views, and distorted religious morals, that authorizes one to romanticize the act of having children, and not dealing with the reality of RAISING children.
In my eyes, RAISING children had long ago stopped being a God-given right, and had become a socially-earned right of proven responsibility and accountability.
Whichever presidential candidate will be raising this issue of responsibility and accountability in ending child endangerment and abuse, will be getting my vote!
Spot on! I feel the exact same way. Having children should be a socially-earned right. My father always says that you have to pass a driver’s test to get your license, but anyone can go ahead and pro-create, leading the most important job in the world – being a parent! There are so many people out there who dream about the idea of “having a baby” but have no f-ing clue about the hard work and responsibility that comes with it. Which is why I don’t know if I ever want children.
Hell, you have to have a license to fish or hunt, too! And try going through the process of adopting a CAT OR DOG from the local shelter or animal rescue place!
But any incompetent idiot can get pregnant.
Yes, yes and YES to everything you just said!
I agree, but please don’t leave the fathers out of the equation, or in this case the doctor who knowingly helped create this situation.
The media needs to stop making stars of anyone who seeks to pimp their pregnancies and children to make a buck.
All the candidates talk about personal responsibilty. It makes for good sound bites and politics, but it’ s not easy to legislate. But there should be stronger laws to prevent doctors from enabling the likes of Nadya, and prevent adults from exploiting children.
I applaud the hairdresser for speaking up. She could have looked the other way and continued to receive money for her work. If only the doctor who implanted all these embryos in a single, unemployed woman living with her parents had a fraction of the integrity of this hairdresser…
The children need to be removed from this home, period.
WELL SAID MERC!!!
Yes, Merc, agree with every word in your comment. I also want to say that anyone who says it shouldn’t matter that Octomom is a trainwreck, only her children should matter. Well, yes, her children matter because they are helpless little dependent beings, unlike Octo who is chronologically at least, a decision making adult, so we need to focus on them first. But the fact that Octo=trainwreck is of the utmost importance bcuz she is the only adult present in the kids’ lives. Which leads me to agree with Merc, they should be reomoved. Being a foster kid is tough stuff, but at least they’d have a shot at normalcy. With Octo, there’s zero chance of that. I can’t express my outrage that she spends gobs of $ pn her hair & mutilating her face into a freak mask while her kids eat and poop outside like junkyard dogs. Nadya is not just an odd bird, she’s a straight up narcissistic sociopath who cares only about herself and her image.
I agree with all of you!
You see, if you have a child in 2012, the VILLAGE is not there for you anymore to help raise your child. The village is not there for you if you are raising your child on your own. The village will not take over raising your child because your an incompetent mother. Times have changed, so should laws in regards to raising children.
And the government is not there for you to help you financially, even if it is FORCING you to have a child.
Of course, if you are to become an architect, you would need to go through years of studies, practice, and then getting your permit: Because whatever you build, will be putting lives in danger.
Of course, if you are to become a driver, you would need strict driving lessons for months, with the first step of getting a LEARNER’S PERMIT: Because your driving is putting lives in danger.
Of course, if you are a doctor, you need to go through years of college, than practice, and to finally be able to hold the title of doctor: Because your everyday decisions are putting lives in danger.
So… Raising children does not put children’s lives in danger. Ever?
And forget today’s FATHER role: The government had made sure that the sperm donor’s role is down to nothing in obligations and accountability. Unless you are rich, and can be forced financially into accountability.
Here is the thing: If the government if forcing women to having children, even if one admits at not being ready to neither carry, deliver, nor raise, why is the government not forcing the sperm donor, i.e. rightful parental partner, into the same position as the woman? From buying bigger underwear, and eating more food while pregnant, to taking care of the child financially and emotionally when it comes into this world: The sperm donor HAS TO BE UNDER SAME OBLIGATIONS AS THE OVARY DONOR. No ifs, or buts about it. It is simply misogynist to say any different.
So either it is ok not only to take the pill, but to also abort within reasonable deadline. Or you simply treat BOTH responsible parties, and force EQUALLY into accountability from the moment of conception.
Again, anything else is just misogyny. You are unfairly putting only ONE party under responsible obligations, while the other party runs free and unaccountable. And that is my opinion on fathers!
Agree with all you’ve said except for the last part because it does not apply in this case: “You are unfairly putting only ONE party under responsible obligations, while the other party runs free and unaccountable. And that is my opinion on fathers!”
What about when the mother is a jacked-up piece of work who has made it a point to NOT include the “other party” in her children’s lives? Who won’t even say who the father IS, or makes stories up about his identity? (makes no sense … unless it all started out with a wish to hog the spotlight?)
I think that Suleiman’s deletion of any type of father figure in her children’s lives is as much, if not more, neglectful as everything else we’ve seen.
A child needs two parents. If parents are divorced or never married, the child can sometimes still see both of them (except of course in cases where there is a problem with a parent). If a parent has died, at least the child knows he/she was there … knows that parent’s name, has photos, something. The point is, children need to know they have or had a mother AND a father. Even if one is dead, or has bailed out, or is a bad influence, they need that.
A child can not necessarily understand some of these things, of course. But children who have been raised from Day One as though they were magically born with NO father? I can’t even imagine what that must be like.
Even if Octomom tricked the guy, or he doesn’t want to get involved, or whatever else is the case … at least the kids would have some sort of reference point, if you know what I mean. But they don’t. All they have is a narcissistic, delusional attention whore for a mom. Any other familial relationships these children might have been able to have, she’s fucked up beyond recognition.
It’s all about her. She has to be EVERYTHING to them, but instead, she’s NOTHING.
Not only that, darlin’ but sperm donors actually GET PAID for their sperm.
Personally, I can’t wait until these kids get old enough to go after the sperm donor(s) for living the kinds of lives they had to live.
I hope you don’t feel the same way about egg donors. I have done that myself. I don’t have an issue with that (obviously ).or sperm donation because without it truly deserving people who want and deserve children can actually have them. Yes the pay is good but I did it for those who can’t. Maybe a mandatory psych evaluation should be given? You have to go through one for weight loss surgery so why not? I would be more for mandatory sterilization for both man and woman since there are plenty of them on my area that’s just have more kids to get more welfare money.
Sluggo’s right about the father situation here. Nadya did not want him involved, just wanted about a quart of his sperm and no contact or interference. Her mad massive baby plan was always only about HER. No room for a dad beyond his donation, no room for how her future kids would feel about that. Her decision was pathologically selfish. There’s no hope of getting thru to her, sociopaths do not change. She plays the contrite, mea culpa, self deprecating cards when she fears the public despises her because sociopaths are masters of manipulation. She’s not just some wounded, overwhelmed woman who made a bad choice, she long ago established a pattern of delusion, narcissism, and making choices so horrendous that they impinge on the basic quality of life of others, such as her kids and her parents. Her kids grafitti the house because they hate her, have no respect for her, & are lashing out in any way they can. CPS has often removed kids from situations much less dire than this. Why won’t they act? The kids are still young enough to be adopted into loving families who can raise them with the attention, dignity and love they deserve. Octo can’t deliver on any of that.
Amen! With all that is in me, I despise people who abuse and neglect children. I detest those who treat children as accessories…you know, a little something to go with the tan, fake nails/hair, and designer clothing. I can’t understand why women like Nadya and Kate Gosselin purposely get pregnant with these litters and then have no way to care for them.
Seriously, WTF?
While Kate Gosselin def has her own set of issues, she at least created her litter unintentionally (was on fertility enhancing drugs, didn’t implant multiple embryos)and did so with a husband/dad in the picture. Her kids may have been props on a tv show, but they were well fed & clothed and cared for. Maybe she’s not many folks’ idea of mom of the year, but she’s not neglectful or abusive or mentally ill like Octo. Kate can speak too sharply, be too rigid, maybe cold, but she is simply not the monster Octo is. Octo intentionally created and had implanted a crazy number of embryos all without the benefit of a husband or father for the kids. Kate didn’t deplete her own parents’ resources or take from the state to provide for her brood.
Those living conditions look depressing! I hope these children will be rescued by loving adults. This is terribly sad!
Sad for the kids and this is not a surprise at all.
disgusting piece of swine. children need to be placed in care.
It’s gut wrenching that a “home” has to be just this side of condemned to be considered unfit living conditions. OK, sleeping on the floor may not technically constitute neglect, but can you imagine the smell? Completely unsanitary and dangerous for children this age. She’s disgusting and it’s a tragedy that CPS isn’t going to take steps to keep these kids safe and healthy.
She’s a delusional piece of shit. NOONE is jealous of you honey. And no surprises about the squalor your children live in while you get your hair straightened. Those pictures of the children using outdoor toilets, the chair clearly in position to keep someone trapped inside and the hairdresser’s testimony should hopefully be enough to begin a serious inquiry into getting protective services involved and removing those children. But you never know with the state of friggin’ California in charge.
A $500 hair cut while receiving food stamps? Yeah, I would say that falls under the Fraud category. She automatically qualifies for WIC (Women, Infants and Children) so the food stamps were on top of all the WIC items. What kind of mother spends $500 on a haircut when she’s a single mom with 14 children on welfare? Yeah, a bad one. She sucks. Poor kids, what a f*’d up mom they have.
Dont forget the fresh fillers in her lips and cheeks. That had to run btwn $2000-$3000 and she had those done right before the “Im getting foodstamps” media blitz. She also gets $$ for selling the stories and pics to TMZ in an attempt to get some sympathy donations for her “upkeep”.
She also has $20. and up hair care products sitting around. Must be nice to be able to afford such things while everyone else pays your way.
I thought her house was in foreclosure and she was looking for a new place? Wasnt she supposed to be kicked out of there last month or something?
She did an almost-naked spread that helped keep her afloat a bit longer. But obviously, she is not doing much to keep her afloat at all times.
You’re right, Macey. Her hair is just the tip of the crazy iceberg…she is always messing with that gross pie hole of hers, and her face always seems newly stretched into some unnatural configuration. She was a Plain Jane before she started futzing with herself, now she’s god awful fugly. Her house is in foreclosure. The article above stated she’s renting, but she’s not. Its just that her mortgage note was held by an individual instead of a bank. She’s come thisclose to foreclosure repeatedly, but always manages to flash her surgery scarred bod or fake box with some other desperate ho and keep the foreclosure at bay. The guy who sold her father the house is not responsible for its current condition, only Octo’s neglect, sense of self entitlement and understandably pissed off kids are responsible for the home’s bust down state.
yep.
I get a haircut once or twice a year and it costs $15. And that’s at a local salon, not Supercuts.
well there’s a shocker.. no idea why it took this long to step in, pathetic..
Well this was inevitable. She has no job and has more than a dozen children. My hope is that those kids are removed and placed in loving, healthy homes where they can get the attention they need and that they THROW HER ASS IN JAIL FOR CHILD NEGLECT.
Really – freezing cold and it’s 60 degrees? That’s a nice day in most places. After that your whiny mess of a self lost me. If she was talking about Brad and Ang would we be as shocked?!
Octo-CooCoo think she IS Angelina Jolie!
Dat’s why she got all dat plastic surgery done, memba?
60 degrees is very cold for a small child wearing only a t shirt…get a grip!
Depending upon where you live, 60 degrees can be cold because your body becomes acclimated to the climate. Also, some people react more easily to cooler weather. She said that the children were shivering, so obviously they were cold.
I hope that CPS takes the children and puts them in loving homes.
Who in the hell is spray painting all over the house like that? Horrible parenting! This makes me especially mad because my husband & I are actively trying to have one (ONE!) kid that we know we can raise as a productive member of society. Here’s OctoMonster teaching her kids to poop outside like dogs!
The kids going to the washroom outside breaks my heart. Not only because they have to do that, but also because she hasn’t taught them basic social interaction and both went while the cops were there.
Jesus Christ…I was already horrified by these pics, but I didn’t even think about it that way! God those poor children. I can’t even imagine the developmental problems they will have. Hopefully someone can intervene now before it’s too late for them.
The pics showing the kids using the “bathroom” and the conditions inside the house were not taken by the cops, they were taken by the hairdresser — so we don’t know if the kids used the potty while the cops were there. Nonetheless, I agree with you that the kids most likely don’t know social norms. It’s a horrible situation and I don’t understand how the officials can’t see a problem with it. …And spending $500 on your hair when your kids are obviously not getting their basic needs met? that’s beyond sick.
This woman CLEARLY has severe mental issues. That, coupled with the living conditions, should be enough to get those kids out of her care. Blocking a door with a chair? Sounds like a fire hazard to me, child endangerment?
I think it’s disgusting that she continues to go out there and pamper herself while taking from the taxpayers and leaving her kids in squalor. But again, mental issues.
She is mentally ill. Her children need to be removed from her before one of them is seriously hurt.
What a disgusting piece of shit this horrid Thing is! The fact that she treats herself to hairstyles & other treatment while her children, that she doesn’t even support, live in squalor offends me as a human, as a woman, and as a mother. A real mother. Not a crazy nutjob who is single-handly ruining the lives of 14 children!
I really hope those kids find a home where they can be rehabilitated from her neglect.
Single, welfare receiving mother of FOURTEEN? Your @ss goes to Supercuts. {Really, could they do any worse?}
It’s sad that investigators said the children weren’t in danger. How bad does it have to get before these kids are rescued???
Exactly! What does it take to make CPS realize that the children are being neglected and not taken care of properly?
Finding a home for 14 CHILDREN, FOURTEEN, is no easy task. Also, they try to keep siblings together within the system…
Maybe the Duggars would like adopt them all?
Spot-on. The kids would have to be split up into at least 4 different homes. State law prevents too many children being placed in the same foster home, even to keep the family together.
When kids are in the potty-training stage – it’s common (and even recommended in a popular and well-respected child-rearing book) to let them go pantless at home and to have the “potty” around for them to try out when the feeling arises.
“Dirty” and “kids” goes together like “peanut better” and “jelly” – does it not?
Spending $500 on a beauty treatment does seem frivolous and irresponsible, I agree (she needs to find a much cheaper way to take care of those needs), BUT – seeing how our society equates a women’s worth and goodness with beauty – it’s understandable behavior. And $hit, people are still venomously insulting her appearance. Imagine how that feels.
My point is that yes, it’s logical to assume that a single mother of 14 kids who is without a helpful partner and family is struggling to provide her family with what they need. So let’s make our ruckous about getting the family HELP!
I believe it’s possible that Nadya has some emotional, psychological and mental deficiencies that could use some work . . . but I don’t think she’s EVIL! It seems like she’s the person America loves to hate . . . and I can think of so many more appropriate people for that role.
The no pants-dirty-in-the-backyard stuff is totally understandable. I have two small kids and this is par for the course.
It’s the combination of all these factors that makes her negligent. The overspending on superficial stuff when your children are receiving assistance and not getting proper care. The lack of proper sanitation on an ongoing basis (not just dirty playtimes). The lack of attention and educational opportunities for the children…and so on.
It’s terribly sad, but she set herself up for this by first creating the situation, then failing to put appropriate support systems in place to deal with it. And also, being so vehemently unlikeable that no one wants to help her one bit.
You’re right about the pants-free thing. That is how I trained my first – no pants and a little potty in every room. If I lived in a warmer climate, I would probably let my kids run around outside nekid all day and just hose them off before dinner.
fabgrrl, YES! I cannot wait for it to get to a consistent temperature here so I can let Toddles run around in training pants and a T-shirt.
The hosing-off thing would be great, except it hits about 112 here in the summer, and even with 100 sunblock on, poor Toddles would be baked. Literally.
ITA. Each one of these items on their own (NOT the haircut) is a place I’ve been esp during potty training. Kids are many times dressed for the weather and then take their coats off, you put shoes on, send them outside, they take them off immediately, etc… Octo is clearly over her head. I could not take care of half that many kids. I don’t judge her for not being able to either. But I do judge her for not stepping outside of the equation and looking at what is best for them. She needs much more help, plain and simple. She cannot afford more help. I hesitate to say take them away from her completely, b/c that would be traumatic for them, but perhaps she should not have them living with her and instead she should be with them at different times while they live elsewhere (like a visit). I don’t know. Clearly I don’t have any answers either.
As for the locked door, my oldest started climbing over the baby gate at the top of the steps (we had one each at the top and bottom) in the middle of the night to go downstairs to play. This was horribly dangerous and I was in hysterics when I heard it happen one night. We thought we had done the right thing with the two gates and never dreamed she would (or yet could) climb over them. As soon as we realized what was happening, we turned her door knob around on her bedroom and locked it at night. I’m sure I’ll catch hell for this, but from then on she knew she would have to call to us to get her (she does almost every night, so I know I can hear her easily) and not take it upon herself to just leave her room and walk around the house aimlessly. I’m sorry if people think I’m a bad parent for this (turning the knob around), but I sincerely was trying to keep her safe. No, I didn’t lock her in at any other time and she has now grown responsible enough that it is never locked anymore.
This woman is overwhelmed. I can’t imagine what its like there.
Oh, Jill, no hell-catching from me. (I was a sleep-walker as a child, so I feel for you.)
Toddles managed to pull out every electrical outlet plug and dis-assemble every nightlight as soon as he discovered their existence. He has broken off every door-knob lock in the house, even after we duct-taped them together. He’s broken 4 refrigerator-door locks. He also managed to break off every cabinet and drawer lock, as well as 3 baby gates. Did I mention he’s knocked out 3 of the ground-floor screens to escape? And I’m sure the neighbours thought it was hysterical watching me chase him down the street after he learned how to unlock the doors, which he did while I was in the loo and dad was at work. (We installed the hotel-style locks after that second incident.)
Because we have an “open kitchen” he can see us prep & cook, so he thinks nothing of getting a block of cheese and a knife and trying to help himself. Nor does he mind standing on the broiler handle and either attempting to season the food or blow out the flame under the pan. He’s also managed to pull off three sets of corner protectors on the kitchen counters & bar.
Now, imagine 14 of those…
It is immoral to create children you cannot support; and some people care about children so much they equate such a selfish act with “evilness”.
My thought is that Octo is mentally ill and the state cannot do any worse in raising those kids than she is doing. …As Dr. Phil likes to say: “children would rather be FROM a broken home than live in one.”
Her intent may not have been “evil” but intent doesn’t really matter when the outcome is so potentially tragic for 14 lives.
And IF she had had her 14 kids with a supportive partner/spouse; IF her multiples were (relatively) un-planned; IF she was employed at the time; IF she acted like she cared more about her kids than her looks, MAYBE there would be more focus on getting her “help.”
Now, the focus should be on getting her children help. F*ck her.
I don’t think she’s evil, but she’s clearly overwhelmed, and too narcissistic to realize it.
If California CPS is investigating the home, I hope they send their most experienced social worker out there and not some newbie who will glance around once or twice, count the kids’ arms and legs to make sure they are all there, and recommend that the children stay with the mother since they are in no immediate danger.
Don’t count on it.
Alexa, I agree that sometimes potty training involves running around pants-less at times and kids get dirty faster than we can sometimes clean them up, but what needs to be understood and acknowledged is that a huge part of helping Octo’s kids is removing them from Octo’s sole care. As for defending her beauty treatments bcuz women are judged by their looks, that’s no defense. I have a paying job and a mere two kids, yet I can’t fit a Brazilian blow out into my budget, as much as I’d like one. Octo’s looks should not be a top priority when she has 14 kids she can’t manage or support. It’s not that she’s treated herself to the occasional hair treatment, the woman regularly tweaks and fills her face and body, it’s as plain to see as the bizarre looking mess she calls a pair of lips.It’s fair to say she has spent literally thousands on cosmetic procedures, most of which prob involve some degree of costly maintenance. As for disparaging her looks, when a person has altered the apperance as radically & unnaturally as Octo has, it’s usually not considered attractive. It’s usually seen as the act of a troubled, narcissistic individual, one who should not be haphazardly trying to raise 14 kids on her own.
On one hand, I feel for her. I have one 4-year-old boy, and between him, my 17-year-old son, house-cleaning, and my full-time job … it’s a challenge to keep my sanity. On any given day, you could come into my house and find my bed smelling like pee (because my little son refuses to sleep in his own bed, and has a knack for pulling off his overnight diaper off while he’s asleep) and numerous toys on the floor. Possibly also (gasp!) floors unvaccumed and some dishes in the sink.
On the OTHER hand, I knew from my first son that *one* small child is a handfull. It’s not an accident that my kids are 12 years apart. It was negligent of her to have so many children, so close in age, with little-to-no income to support them. It speaks to a mental illness. I think she needs serious help, but to just snatch the babies away and throw them into foster care? I’m not sure I’m behind that at this point.
Co-signing on this, 100%
Double co-signing 100%.
I’m sorry Alexa, but it is evil to spend $500 on your appearance while you defraud the taxpayers of communal funds by claiming that you cannot feed your children. That $500 could have gone to feed her family, freeing up $500 for people with real need. People with no roof over their head and truly no food to eat regularly or even daily. People who actually are actively seeking work instead of trying to be photographed. People who have not squandered millions and caused their parents financial ruin.
She has robbed people of food for their children so she could get her hair done. That is not understandable.
All of it is horrible. One thing that I thought of is the Brazillian Blowout. I just watched a report recently about how bad that is to do. All the chemicals that goes in to it very bad for an adult. They even had the government step in a put a warning on it and there are certain chemicals (can’t remember which) they can’t use anymore. In this report, all of the salons still use it and told the undercover reporters that it is perfectly safe, which it is not. Why would she, on top of everything else, put her kids in danger from that to have that done? She is a complete moron. 🙁
It contains formaldehyde gas – toxic fumes that could cause cancer. Formaldehyde has many uses, including embalming dead bodies. The Attorney Generals of both NY and CA settled lawsuits brought against Brazilian Blowout for failing to alert consumers that the product contained this harmful substance. A class action suit was also settled for $4.5 million. This suit was based on the California AG investigation and stemmed from numerous complaints from hair stylists that the product was causing nosebleeds, breathing problems and eye irritation. While the FDA allowed the product to stay on the market (obviously), it required Brazilian Blowout to better label and warn users of the contents of the product.
There were also several individual lawsuits filed across the US. Some have been settled and others are still pending.
Nadya is obviously as concerned about her own health as she is that of her kids.
Again, positive correlation between fecundity and low IQ.
Her hairstylist offered her free bunk beds for the kids so they won’t have to sleep on the floor and Nadya declined insisting things were fine. A few months ago her manager publicly stated she wanted to buy clothes for the kids for Christmas but Nadya wanted cash instead. Do those kids get anything? She is mentally ill and delusional. Very sad for those kids!!
When you have FOURTEEN kids to support by yourself- your pride goes to the wayside. She is a SELFISH PIG. $500 on hair that she could just straighten with a flat iron? She is a con artist and a fraud. If she truly loved her kids, she’d look at the big picture. I never thought I’d say this but, she needs to sign over rights. Give those kids a chance.
Thank goodness that lady reported this. Children have no voice, or anyone to stand up for them. Bless all their little hearts!
She could at least curb her spending long enough to get that TURLIT FIXED! gee whiz. . .
Yeah, she needs to sign over her parental rights asap and let the kids be adopted by people who will love them AND can parent well w/o needing to write disturbing graffiti all over the wall.
Just think: For Octo-Coo Coo, the writing really IS literally on the wall, and it spells out ‘Crazay Lady’ who is a sick ‘Kid Hoarder’. It’s like those old ladies who keep 100+ cats.
There should be a serious inter-Octo-vention and her slumdog hoarder hovel should be shut down.
I also feel bad for her one autistic child. Just having him alone, with proper parenting, would take enormous amounts of time and effort to make sure he is developing well for his level. He is probably on his own most of the time..in his own world…THAT is so sad…she doesn’t ever need to spend a dime on haircuts if things were that bad…she could trim her own ends, ponytail it, end of story…she needs not to spend a dime on herself other than the very barest of necessities..while it isn’t wonderful, it’s reality..she chose this she has to pay the price and make sacrifices for her children.
Well, the Octo-brain doesn’t seem to be exactly in line with Reality ya know!
Remember that she thinks she’s just like Angelina Jolie.
poor kids. this woman is a piece of trash.
and why the hell is she going to a hairdresser who charges $520 for two haircuts and a blow-out? i go to one who charges $50 for a haircut and it really hurts me to pay that, even though she’s great. if you have 14 kids and live in a hole, you better start taking a pair of scissors to your hair yourself.
and with that photo i just don’t want to visit gossip blogs anymore. she, kartrashians and lindsay are too much of… stomach turners, for my liking 🙁
I’m with you. I’m nauseated by all of it.
The little blurp in the SF daily paper said that child services showed up, said yup its a dump but the kids are OK and then they walked away.
All I can do is shake my head – those poor kids.
But hey she got her brazilian hairdo! That is what is important to her.
That is really disheartening. CPS is supposed to PROTECT children, not turn a blind eye.
CPS in Cali sucks. They are over-worked and under-paid, but I don’t think that’s an excuse.
A few Octo-toon posts back, I posted links to some stories about CPS (in LA in particular). I don’t know if anyone read them, but if so, it’s a more dismal picture than what we’ve read here. Just Google it; you’ll see. (If you’ve got the stomach for it.)
I could match your CPS in Cali stories with CPS in NYC stories any day in the week. Not only are the workers overworked and underpaid, they are often poorly supervised and untrained. The turnover rate in CPS due to worker burnout is astronomical.
They need the most experienced and competent people they can get in CPS but that would mean paying them what the job is worth and no local government could afford it. I’ve been in social work for over thirty years but never in CPS. You couldn’t pay me $200,000 a year to do that job. The average CPS worker in NYC makes a fifth or a sixth of that.
Finally! What’s most shocking — and appalling — about all is that it’s taken this long to get CPS involved. Kudos to the hairdresser for speaking up.
My heart goes out to those poor children.
Ugh…I don’t know why I keep reading stories about this “woman” when all they do is put me in a rage. We went through hell to have our 2 children, and have 2 that we can only hold in our hearts. She treats the children she has like garbage & spends $500+ on her hair?! I need some fillings & a crown that I’ve been putting off for nearly a year b/c my children needed new shoes, money for a field trip, a recital costume, etc. (I’m finally getting them done next week b/c I know dental health is important & I have to be a good example!)
Kudos to you. You love your babies – its obvious.
A serious question here. What does CPS actually do? I have heard they haunt er’s attempting to discredit families with kids who were victims of childhood accidents. I’ve heard they were aware of Andrea Yates, and her struggle to keep sane before DROWNiNG her 4 small children. Yet google people like Hedda Nussbaum and JoelSteinberg in NYC, to learn of little Lisa Steinbergs fate, where was CPS? It makes you hate people like vindictive ex’es who overwhelm the overburdened system with bs issues that keep investigators time and attention from real abuse and neglect cases ( Halle Berry comes to mind), if the system went after those who abuse it, perhaps fewer would be inclined to do so. And CPS isn’t all that bad I guess, they were in the driveway when that murderous, perverted POS Josh Powell, hatcheted his 2 baby boys in the face before blowing up his entire house and all of them . Imagine what CPS could have done, if they really had the kids best interests in these cases.
My mind is blown. My husband and I make a decent living. We have less than $5000 worth of “debt” (not including our mortgage, of course), our vehicles are paid off, and we still live a lifestyle we are comfortable with…I cannot imagine paying $500 to get my hair done. I spend less than that on groceries for the month! Heck, I just scoured and scoured for some nursing pjs that cost less than $50 a pair (hard to find!)…that’s how cheap I am, lol.
I have read every post on this thread and I have to say there’s one thing you guys don’t know. There ARE NO FOSTER HOMES for all of the kids who need them. CPS’s hands are completely tied by the lack of foster home options. I know this as a teacher who has reported numerous cases of really horrible child abuse only to be told time and again that the children must stay with their abusive parents because there’s nowhere else to put them. I am not at all surprised that CPS considers these kids to be fine. There are children with much, much worse living situations, I assure you. I had one little boy who came to school with a giant burn mark from a clothes iron because he sassed his mother. I had a student absent for three days, whose sisters reported that their stepfather had duct-taped her to a coffee table for that time as punishment for some offense. These incidents were reported and these children remain with their abusive families. So yeah, 14 kids have it rough, but it’s nothing compared to what’s out there. Just saying.
EDIT: I am in no way condoning her parenting style or disagreeing that she needs help. I’m just expressing my own frustration with the CPS system and saying that when I am in the position to do so, I intend to become a foster mother and I think a lot more people should consider becoming foster families. This world needs them.
My bff became a foster parent to a 13 year old and his 2 year older brother. The adoption was finalized 2 months ago. the 13 year old was a raging mess when he came to live with her. Now, he is a completely different kid…. almost normal. He still has some anger issues but nowhere near what it was.
She needs help. Putting the children into foster care is a terrible idea. They need to be together, not wrenched apart and thrown into a scary system where who knows what could happen to them.
It’s awful to read this, see it unfold, when there are so many women struggling with infertility who would give so, so much for one precious child to take care of. It makes me cry, really.
This gave me a little comic relief though: “It was freezing yesterday. It was 60 degrees!”
Signed, someone living in Minnesota, where 60 degrees is bordering on swimsuit weather.
To Jill
Do not feel bad about turning your daughter’s locked around and having to lock her in at night. My husband and I made the same difficult decision with our first daughter. She would get up at night and climb high counters in the kitchen to reach the knives. We would wake in the morning with apples on our counter with dozens of knives sticking out of them. I was so worried she would hurt herself. So, we turn around her lock and locked her in at night. Being locked in actually became a comfort to her. She would lock herself in or demand we lock her in so she could “seep safe”. You do crazy things to keep you kid safe.
This is so depressing!
This woman had all her babies because she thought she could cash in and make millions. She didn’t have them because she is a loving, attentive and mature parent, it was a cash grab. And when the cash grab didn’t work out, who does she take it out on? The kids. She’s already proved how selfish she is by thinking she could have a bunch of babies and get on reality TV and live on easy street, only it didn’t work out in the end and those poor kids are suffering as a result. The authorities should have taken the babies away as soon as they were healthy enough to be adopted out, period. She has cost the hospitals and social workers and tax payers untold hundreds of thousands of dollars because of her lunatic selfishness. It’s time to remove the children to loving, normal, happy homes.
I think people concentrating and commenting on her looks only enforces her delusional beliefs that her appearance is more important than taking care of her children. The point is that she cannot afford the time or money to get blowouts. Her natural hair, frizzy or not, can and should suffice. I would rather see a disheveled mother who cares for her kids over a perfectly coiffed one who spends all her time looking in the mirror. These kids stomachs don’t care how she looks.
And what kind of hair style Nadya is working on?…The Sarah Silverman look. One of her kids is a looker (the one who’s not part of the Octokids). I hope Nadya won’t be pimping her to showbizness and really hope she makes her finish school.
Her older kids spray painted the walls of the house and the wall around the backyard with creepy graffiti! How much louder a cry for help does CPS need??
Yet another example of someone who wanted babies, not to be an actual parent. Abuse starts when the person realizes they hate the situation, are in over their heads but blame everyone else, including the kids. This is a sick, selfish woman and there has to be loving homes for the children she doesn’t really want. There is a book called “Childism”- she is a blatant example of this. She really does hate those kids. Consider: her HAIR is more important than getting them plumbing. This pathetic excuse for a person has bilked the system and people for YEARS, including refusing to work because of “injuries”, yet having enough money for a sperm bank and birthing 14 babies. She’s wearing UGGS and designer clothing while her kids are locked in a cold room with t-shirts on. Take the kids away and get her on meds. NOW.
I haven’t read all of the comments, but I noticed on TMZ that there’s a photo of her with very silky-looking, straight hair and a bottle of a mid-range hair product (OSIS) in the background. So she’s squandering what little money she has on beauty treatments and name-brand products while her kids look like they’re living in a third world country. She should be getting her shampoo from the bottom shelf at the grocery store (i.e. V05).
There is no good answer for those children. They’ve already spent enough time with her to probably be pretty damaged by the experience. Foster parents aren’t always in the program for good intentions only. I think it’s only a matter of time before those kids begin displaying all kinds of behavioral disorders. How could they not, while living in neglect with a mother who is either incredibly dumb, a pathological liar or has Narcissistic Personality Disorder (or all three)?
Her house looks like it came straight out of the ghetto. Great idea letting the kids use spray paint, idiot.
And I never thought I’d say this, but somehow this woman is managing to make Kate Gosselin look like a decent parent. O_o;
I fell sooo bad for the children ! all of them. Seriously may God help them !
CPS will not remove the kids because it’s a process that takes them away from their 35-55 other abuse cases each. My friend just left her employment at CPS and she told me that removing a child requires mounds upon mounds of paperwork and sometimes court (more paperwork) and while that is happening, you still have to work your other cases. CPS workers are over-worked and although it’s not an excuse, I understand why so many cases are signed off on unless there is something REALLY bad like a meth lab in the basement type of bad, before CPS will remove kid.
This woman knew what she was doing, I don’t think she has a mental problem, I think she’s narcissistic and selfish as hell and she wil say/do ANYTHING to keep the attention coming. I feel sorry for the kids. I hope this is not the beginning of some cycle of family issues that these kids will pass along to their own families one day.
Why is foster care even an issue? She should lose custody immediately so the kids can be adopted. There are plenty of adoptive parents. Or, at least, there would have been when they were still babies. The state of California really screwed up on this one.
She was scheduled to appear at a nightclub for Mother’s Day in a city very near to me (near San Francisco, not LA) but after this bad press they cancelled it. Not sure why the owner would think anybody would want to see her in the first place
Some of us are unable to have kids through any means and would love to have one, just one. I have an irrational (okay, maybe a rational) hatred for this woman.
Nice hands.
It would probably be a huge relief to her to give all her kids up for adoption and foster care. She really only wanted them in order to achieve fame and fortune, but instead she is a social pariah and a dismal failure as a mother.
She’s just so weird looking. Spending way too much money on awful plastic surgery and not addressing all of the problems with her poor little children.
I feel she is hiding money from the state of California, whether it is in Harmony Enterprises or somewhere else.
She has plenty of cash, but that is HER money. Does anyone really think she will spend HER money on her kids? Or fixing her plumbing?
That’s why she pops up pleading poverty now and then.
How can anyone have ANY sympathy for her after this?
She has plenty of money and it comes from the taxpayers. It was revealed on GMA this morning that
she gets $4000 to $5000 a month in government aid,
not $2000.
She said she could afford $520 because she’s been making money. No kidding!
She’s not going to let her little money makers get away. WATCH IT!
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/octomom-interview-exclusive-set-disturbing-photos-16218023
I agree that the children are neglected and IT’S NOT O.K.! I just get this feeling from the hateful comments that if some of the people here lived in her neighborhood and were wealthy enough not to have to work, that they would much rather sit and watch out their window and gossip and HATE on her than to instead spend that time going over to her backyard and start playing with her neglected kids (and/or helping in some other way that can be done without making a big to-do about offering Nadya help knowing that it might offend her ill ego).
I’m just reminded of some neighbors I knew who loved to spend the whole day watching children of families in their neighborhood and criticize their parenting to anyone and everyone they came in contact with. All they while, they weren’t the most stellar parents themselves. THAT just seems evil to me.
I wonder if many of the people wanting her kids taken away know how difficult it is to have a child removed from the parents by child protective services. As a mandated reporter I have reported horrific incidences of sexual, physical, and emotional abuse as well as neglect (which is different). Most of the children were autistic or too young to tell investigators what happened and nothing was done to help the children.
Unless Octomom starves her children to the point of obvious malnourishment, hoards years of trash, and/or allows the home to be infested with pests those children will NEVER be removed.
As taxpayers we will have to support them financially until they can support themselves. I work in the field of autism. She stated after the octoplets were born that out of the older 6 children two had mild autism spectrum and one has severe autism. They never talked about the 2 years old twins at the time because they had not been diagnosed I assume. Now add the 8 premature children that don’t get enough play to learn. I’m just waiting to hear how many of the kids end up with severe disabilities and have to live with her as adults. We have to pay for that too.
Forget the hairdresser bill. That is the least of my concerns!