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Earlier this week, I covered some new photos of Sienna Miller and her baby-daddy, Tom Sturridge. Tom and Sienna were in Portofino, Italy, in the midst of what I assumed was there “babymoon,” or the holiday that many couples have a few months before the baby is born. I still don’t really know when Sienna is due, but I’m still guessing that it’s probably late June or early July. Anyway, what I didn’t notice about these photos is that there seems to be some alcohol in the mix. The header photo I chose is the best shot I could find from our photo agencies – you can see Tom and Sienna seated at a café, and if you look closely, you can spy a wine bottle and TWO glasses on their table. SCANDAL. Well, you guys thought it was a “scandal” when Uma Thurman was drinking wine while pregnant. How do you feel about it when it’s a former party girl like Sienna?
Former party girl Sienna Miller wasn’t about to let a little thing like pregnancy get in the way of enjoying a glass of bubbly. Out for a romantic afternoon with fiancé and dad-to-be Tom Sturridge in Portofino, Italy, the actress was in celebratory spirits as she sipped on a glass of vintage champers.
Of course, a friend insists that Sienna got her doctor’s permission before indulging: “Sienna is European and it’s common there for a pregnant woman to have a glass of wine or champagne,” the pal explains.
Plus, the friend adds that Sienna was careful only to have a few sips. “She’d never do anything to harm her unborn baby.”
[From In Touch Weekly, print edition]
Back when we were talking about Uma and preggo wine-drinking, I mentioned my thoughts – basically, I’ve always heard that the odd glass of wine is okay, especially when a woman is in her last trimester. Different doctors say different things, and there is a difference in how American women versus European women see the issue. I really don’t think Sienna is guzzling booze non-stop – I think she just has a glass of wine every now and then, and she probably doesn’t think it’s a big deal. But by all means, judge away. GET HER!
PS… If I had to stare at my baby-daddy’s scrunchie-bun all day, I would need a drink too.
Photos courtesy of WENN, Pacific Coast News.
Written by Kaiser
Posted in Alcohol, Pregnant, Sienna Miller
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So what is she going to do for living after the pregnancy? It’s not like she has acting carrier, long gone are the Alfie days
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Pimp the baby!
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At least she’s not doing drugs. yet.
God have mercy on that child.
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I think she had that clothing line with her sister right?
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Indeed, there must be a difference in how American women versus European women see this issue. I’m European and I have absolutely no problem with pregnant ladies drinking ‘the odd glass of wine’ every now and then. It’s pretty much accepted here. Sienna apparently only had a few sips. If that makes her happy- by all means, just do it. Pregnancy is hard enough as it is without a million other women bitching at you for doing this or not doing that.
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Agreed. I knew someone who wouldn’t get into a new car when she was pregnant because “new car smell is chemicals and I’m pregnant.”
The mommy brigade can get seriously insane about this stuff. Look at how our parents behaved. We’re fine.
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^^ 100% ditto to above 2 posts.
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What they said
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OMG AMEN!! MY mom drank (the ocassional glass of wine) and smoked with me in her stomach. The entire time! i’m FINE!! Not that i’m saying, go out and smoke while pregnant…but still, the previous generation acted a lot more relaxed than some of these women act now adays. Sheesh.
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@Nonnie–
When she was pregnant with my little sister, my mother’s big pregnancy craving was beer. Her entire 3rd trimester all she could think about when she thought about food was beer.
So every day around 4pm (the time my dad would arrive home) she’d get really excited, practically drumming her fingernails on the table until she heard him come in the door, at which point she would jump to her feet and pour half a beer for herself and the other half for my dad. He said sometimes he didn’t even have his shoes off yet and she’d be handing it to him. They both thought it was funny, even at the time, but once a pregnant lady is obsessed with something…
My sister is and always has been, extremely healthy.
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cosign…. ^^^
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My OB actually told me you can have a glass of wine a week. And, believe me… I did!
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My doc said the same too! My husband is French and my American parents would just watch in horror as I’d have my 1 glass of red once a week.
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Same here. I was hesitant and mentioned how judgmental people are about it so one OB jokingly gave me a dr’s note “allowing red wine” to carry in case anyone gave me sh-t for it.
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+1
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Seriously. 4 kids here-and I had an occasional small glass of wine near the end of all pregnancies. It was fine-and my OB always said it was cool.
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American Mom here…I have no problem with it at all! Funny how people’s opionions are such as ok after the first trimester or she is 8 months so what…hell when I was prego with my oldest I didn’t find out until I was 3 months and by then I could have driven myself crazy over what I did when I didn’t know for sure that I was carrying and he/is was just fine. Now me, I have more of problem with the woman on the cover of time breast feeding her kindergartner then some preggo women sipping wine and perhaps dragging on an occasional ciggy.
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I’m also American, and with my first child, I was three months along before I realized I was pregnant and I had been drinking hard liquor like a fish. Everything turned out fine. With my second child, I had beer while I was pregnant and while nursing and he’s just fine, as well. Sometimes I think these “Rules” are put out there simply to try and reign in those mothers who don’t have any common sense whatsoever.
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I so agree. I get so sick of women policing other women’s (womens’?) pregnancies.
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I will freely admit that I will judge her for smoking. That is proved to be harmful for the baby and hardly a matter of interpretation. Yuck.
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I believe she quit. I think those are Sturridge’s cigarettes.
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Wait, she smokes while pregnant?
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Were did the article say she was smoking? Are you assuming those in the pics are hers? I assumed they were the guys.
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I’ve been curious about this matter (have been a huge Sienna fan) as well. She publicly acknowledged that she adored cigarettes more than anything and had no plans to give them up. It’s possible she doesn’t crave them now but there seemed to be very little space of time for cessation between when she was last spied smoking and confirmation of pregnancy by news outlets. We all know how INCREDIBLY difficult is is to kick the habit. Hmm…
I do think the cigarettes in the photo are “his.”
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I think the knowledge that you are pregnant would be enough to help a person go cold turkey.
Honestly, a relative of mine was addicted to a particularly nasty hard drug. She found out she was pregnant and never touched the suff again. She’s now a great, healthy mom. Getting pregnant probably saved her life.
So I’m sure you could overcome nicotine if you felt strongly about it.
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Zelda…I was a smoker and quit as soon as I was aware of each of my pregnancies…unfortunately I did return after but as a “social smoker” and never in the house, in the car or around the kids. It is extremely hard to quit but pregnancy did it for me like a mental on/off switch.
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Zelda, you would think but not always. My sister was unable to quit when she found out she was pregnant. She tried to ‘cut back’. She convinced herself that her stress from quitting cold turkey would be worse for the baby than the cigarettes were (I’m almost certain this is not the case).
Sadly she miscarried the baby. Although it was not because she was smoking, she carries a lot of guilt.
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Why is she still famous?
Anyone?
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Definitely a cultural thing. In some European countries people drink wine at lunch and dinner, and it’s usually not so strange if a pregnant – healthy – woman has a glass once in a while.
Hell, me and the majority of my friends had our first sip of wine at 8-9 years.
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Eastern European family, raised in Canada–kids got little wine spritzers at holiday meals.
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As long as it’s not in the first trimester – which is the most dangerous time of the pregnancy – then it’s COMPLETELY FINE to drink the odd glass of wine. I’ve been told once a week/two weeks. To each their own – but here comes the judgy moms who most likely will crucify Sienna. Oh, well….
On another note – people here are allowed to drink when they’re 16. Whenever I go to a friends house for dinner I’m always offered wine/beer. It’s normal. At parties the parent’s actually provide the alcohol. At HIGH SCHOOL parties they have bars. It’s no big deal here. And honestly, I don’t think it would be in America either if it wasn’t ‘forbidden’. There’s always going to be those people who go crazy but most will most likely not be as in to it if it was a regular deal.
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Ya but the thing is many women (including my mother) drank the odd glass of wine or more during the first trimester before they knew they were pregnant, and their kids turned out fine!
Of course FASD is a serious risk if a woman drinks too much alcohol during pregnancy, but I think that’s more a case of a woman frequently getting drunk while pregnant — and it happens where women have preexisting issues with alcohol.
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I’m from Europe too and I definitely don’t think it’s okay to drink alcohol while pregnant. Hell, it’s 9 months not the rest of your life!
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EXACTLY. Are these people SO desperate for alcohol?
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I completely agree. I don’t think 9 months is a long time to abstain. U can drink all u want later! But to each her own.
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I’m not against having a small glass of wine whilst pregnant. I do hope she’s not smoking though, so very gross for all involved.
One thing worse than a smoke filled room is a smoke filled womb.
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You know that the womb doesn’t fill with smoke, right?
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I’m European and I don’t make a difference between smoking and drinking during pregnancy. It’s both bad, STAT!!! I know beeing pregnant is hard for some women but you can pamper yourself with other things than legal drugs. You wouldn’t give your newborn a sip of wine or a cigaret, would you? So why then drink/ smoke while pregnant…
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You are not a doctor. If someone’s doctor tells them its okay then its none of your business. You do what you want. If they actually thought it was harmful, the doctor wouldn’t say its okay. Is that so hard to understand?
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You’ve seen Jocelyn Wildenstein’s face, right? That was done by a doctor.
Just sayin’…
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Well, his scrunchie-bun is a definite improvement comparing to his case of a chimpanzee beard couple of months ago. So, she might be celebrating, can’t blame her.
I think she quit smoking. And as long as she is not binge drinking, I’m not judging.
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A beard is way better than a man with a scrunchie bun! He is so comical looking with that thing and nowhere close to being attractive!
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LOL at the scrunchie-bun. Agreed. Not a good look.
As for the wine/pregnancy thing, I was very surprised when I had an amniocentesis done during my pregnancy, I was instructed by my obstetrician to have a glass of wine after the procedure while resting at home. He said that it would serve to relax the muscles (uterus) so the risk of miscarriage wouldn’t be as great.
but p.s I had a hard time drinking the glass. I had maybe three or four sips. I was still afraid of harming the development of the baby. Go figure.
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The odd glass of wine every couple of weeks or so is absolutely fine after the 1st trimester
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Well, the science is unclear, the doctors all differ, and honestly your body isn’t public property. You do you and I won’t judge because it’s none of my business. This is the way I felt when that poor woman was sneaking a cigarette and got papped, I forget her name. How silly that a grown woman would have to hide. She’s an adult and she doesn’t have to do jack shit to appease other people in terms of how she carries her baby. You would think she had a dirty needle sticking out of her arm the way some people reacted.
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I endorse this comment.
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get off Siennas ass she’s 8 months pregnant the wine isn’t gonna be harmful to the baby at that stage and it’s italy for crying out loud wine is part of the culture. the Ciggerettes aren’t hers she’s carrying his as she quit a few years ago.
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Where to did you learn that she quit a few years ago? Just curious
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So…found this:
http://stopsmokingtonight.net/tag/sienna-miller/
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I really don’t understand the whole “after the first trimester” thing because many women don’t know they are pregnant until they miss their first period. Therefore many continue normal habits which can be glass or two of wine every night. I have heard some say that because the baby gets nutrients from yolk sac and not placenta until 6 weeks that alcohol and smoke don’t really affect things. Not sure if this is the case but seems to make sense since so many women continue with bad habits before they realize they are pregnant and kids turn out fine. Disclaimer-not condoning drinking during first trimester just simply stating that it happens a lot because people don’t know they are.
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You are right, but after those first 6 weeks mama and baby are connected. 1st trimester means 3 months.
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Happened to me! I went out on a date night with my (now ex) husband and drank a lot of ale. The next day I was sick in the car and just attributed it to the drinking. Then I realized my period was late and took a pregnancy test about a week later. Of course it was positive as I was pregnant with my son. I felt so guilty about imbibing while I was pregnant but how could I have known? Everyone told me not to beat myself up and he is a healthy young boy today.
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“Sienna is European and it’s common there for a pregnant woman to have a glass of wine or champagne” – bs! I’m European and it’s definately not common here.
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Yes, it is. But it also depends which land you look at…
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My Dutch BF says the UK isn’t really Europe, I tend to disagree but I see the point – men in the UK don’t wear Speedos.
Sienna is in Italy – do as the locals do.
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In all fairness, she’s probably far enough along to have a couple of drinks without causing any serious harm. Fetal alcohol syndrome is a serious problem, but some people go overboard.
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How classy of him to be smoking near a pregnant woman.
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That’s what offends me. I hate smoking and if I were pregnant I would turn into THE CIGARETTE NAZI.
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She looks really rough for 30.
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I was born in the late ’50′s & my mom smoke & drank through out my pregnancy, too. As a result, I’m fine. I was an honor student back in the day. Big benefit for me; due to the fetal alcohol syndrome I can wear hats from the infant & toddlers department…..
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LOL! How convenient for you…
I too, was raised in a completely different time. Pregnant women smoked and drank, nobody wore seatbelts, kids didn’t wear helmets bicycling…yet somehow we managed to survive – fancy that!
(Not that I’m condoning pregnant women smoking and drinking, mind you – but an occasional glass of wine? Big deal!)
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I’m a little younger so smoking was a HELL NO when I was born but my mom didn’t smoke anyway. Drinking and coffee were fine.
Still what drew me to your post was the part of about the seat belts. There is a meme about growing up in the 80s and before and it talks about seat belts and baby chairs and riding in the back of the station wagon or the pick up truck. I think we had more fun growing up and most of us are still here and healthy and people still die from car accidents even with seat belts and baby chairs and air bags.
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I’m swedish (northern european) and here they tell you not to drink any alcohol while pregnent. When you breastfeed it’s OK to have one glass of wine.
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BFD.
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A study has shown a little wine can actually be beneficial for the baby. Pregnancy
Is hard and stressful. A glass of wine is less harmful to the baby than the toxic hormones. produced in your body when you are stressed. Also just so we are all clear coffee is also ok in moderation for normal pregnancies. People need to stop being so judgemental.
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I’m American and had the occasional 1/2 glass of wine during both my pregnancies (and beer while I was nursing) per my ob-gyn, so I don’t judge. My husband in from the Netherlands and his people are way less judgmental about drinking during pregnancy and breastfeeding in public than Americans tend to be.
I do however judge her baby daddy for smoking right in front of her–second hand smoke can be extremely harmful, too.
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lol, baby moon? F off.
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We have a Time Magazine cover of a woman with a big KID latched on her breast…drinking while pregnant… co sleeping in beds… etc… I don’t have a kid.. but the politics of motherhood.. GOOD GOD do people have a lot to say about how other people conduct being a mom. Crazy
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I just can’t imagine whipping out my boob in public to feed a 4 year old. I’m all for being welcoming to nursing mothers and their babies but a KID is just weird and I thought it was bad for their teeth to nurse for so long… breast or bottle.
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The baby’s health is important, of course. But what is this beautiful babe going to wear from day to day?
In my mind, Sturridge’s schrunchie-bun and absurd facial hair totally trump all of Sienna’s excellent fashion sense. Kid could turn out to be a hot mess.
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Reminds me of how some baby books in NA say “no spices! plain foods for the baby for a year” and so on.
I always wonder, what do babies in other cultures eat then?
NA gets pretty stupid about what you should and should not do, in most areas of life, I find.
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Wow! I hate spicy food but I craved it while pregnant and ate it whenever I could (even though it gave me heartburn) and now my son loves spicy food. I’ve often wondered if there is a connection to my eating those foods while he was in utero??
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Courtney Love did heroin when she was pregnant with Frances Bean, and Frances is healthy. Does that make it okay?
Smoking, drinking, etc., is risky while pregnant. You just never know. I would rather sacrifice my vices for 9 months. Believe me, pregnancy is a breeze compared to motherhood.
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Jen…from MichaelK over at dlisted…’Is it really just a European thing, though? I thought it was an international thing especially since more and more women are chomping on their placentas after giving birth. And any chef will tell you that meat is most delicious when braised in wine. SO DRINK UP!”….lol
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I totally agree with you. The fact that nobody has been able to demonstrate it’s bad doesn’t mean it’s healthy. Come on, everybody knows what alcohol does to your body even when you’re not pregnant! And please, people, stop saying it’s common for Europeans to drink while pregnant because it’s not. It’s not a cultural thing, it’s a personal choice. I’m European and I’m pregnant. My doctor says I can eat anything I want except for one thing: ALCOHOL. Do whatever you want with your life as long as you’re sure it’s not damaging your baby. You can survive without drinking for some months.
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Completely agree w this.
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Its your choice. I don’t judge other women. The science shows that alcohol is more damaging to foetal development than crack or heroine. So if you have to indulge ladies, I say go hardcore.
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I think the odd glass of wine with the doctor’s permission is fine. I went out of my way to avoid coffee (which sucked!), alcohol, shellfish and second hand smoke while pregnant. However, my doctor did give me permission to have a cup or two of tea each day. I think it’s okay to ask your doctor for their opinion and go off of that.
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I am so tired of moms bullying other moms. I’ve had this happen to me so many times. I’m just different. I see my son as his own person and I act according to his personality. I don’t see a reason to fall in lockstep with the “soccer mom nazi’s”. I have been pitied that I have an only child, even when I explain that I cannot have any more children per my doctor. I have been told that I “have to” put my child in activities or join the freaking PTA (so not my thing). I have been judged for not being able to breast feed my child even when the circumstances surrounding his birth basically took away that possibility. I have waited until my son was old enough to tell me what activities he wanted to be involved in…judged for that too! And the best part, I was judged for my divorce from my ex (who left me by the way) because he was a good dad and so I should just be miserable forever for the “sake of my child”. ENOUGH with the petty BS!!! My son does have a challenge in his life because his parents are divorced, what child of divorce doesn’t…it does make me feel guilty but I’m proud of him for being strong and coping with the situation. Luckily his father and I can co parent peacefully and he has the stability he needs. He is active in the boy scouts, an activity that he chose and that makes him happy. He loves reading and archery. He is a loving child and I’m sure on his way to being a productive adult. I just really don’t understand modern parenting trends in the U.S. Even if I felt what someone else was doing with their child was strange (like no TV watching) I would never tell them so to their face. That seems so rude and controlling.
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I love this comment so much. Thank you Ginger.
Recently my husband and I have started discussing having a baby. We too are “different” in that we wouldn’t be into the PTA (not to mention that we both have good jobs and I don’t plan on being a SAHM, I doubt there would be time for PTA crap), we wouldn’t force our kids into activities, and we only (maybe) want one. My husband’s parents forced him to take part in activities (sports) he didn’t actually want to participate in and he HATED it, and still harbors resentment towards them for not letting him be himself (musician.) My parents never did that, thank god.
But everything you have said is EXACTLY what we fear about having a child. We know that we would raise it a little differently than what’s become “the norm” and we are afraid we will get vilified for it.
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Love the comment, Ginger! I don’t have kids yet but am terrified I, too, will be judged for those exact same things, as I am just not a “joiner”. And I have some girlfriends, who after having their babies, while sane pre-baby, are now off their rockers with their mommy judgey-ness. They judge anyone and everyone and even think they are superior to those of us who have chosen thus far to remain child-free. It makes me crazy.
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I was raised by nuns, had no parents, and they always said that when children choose their activities and hobbies, they are happy and better adjusted. After all, they are involved in choicemaking and should be. That’s probably how I ended up getting degrees in psych, parapsych, and anthropology – I got to make all the choices!! Giving kids a choice and a voice is important.
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Ok, I understand about an odd glass of wine near the end of a pregnancy, maybe on a couple special occasions, but I feel that those that drink once a week for 25 weeks “because they can, and I’ve given up enough for this baby, not my wine too!“ strike a chord with me, because it’s 9 months, and what’s too difficult to go without for just nine flipping months for a baby’s sake. Would you give them a sip at a week old? An ounce a week to a toddler? Explain the difference to me. Same with smoking. I’m 3 1/2 months now, and tapered from a pack a day to nothing by 5 weeks. I know it sucks balls to quit cold turkey, even from a 2 cig a day habit. Why make an infant do that? it’s essentially the same. The day they’re born, they are cold turkey from their daily supply. But I guess as long as you didn’t have to go through it, right? Speaks volumes as to the sacrifices you’ll make as a mother after birth.
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That being said, a cig or two snuck in won’t hurt anything. Probably better to have none, but honestly, there are worse things to judge. It’s the ladies that just don’t quit because it’s “too hard” that are clueless, and passing on the burden of quitting to the baby that irk me. Go ahead. Call me judgmental, but you wouldn’t give a drag to an infant.
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I’m a whole lot more horrified by his hairdo than about her having a glass of wine now and then.
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“PS… If I had to stare at my baby-daddy’s scrunchie-bun all day, I would need a drink too.”
That’s hysterical. I thought the exact same thing when I saw that stinking bun on his head. LMAO-your too funny.
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It’s ironic that possibly the most unhealthy nation in the world has this kind of attitude that omg you must never ever drink while pregnant. But once baby’s born it’s FINE to pump him full of GM foods, additives, e numbers, junk food etc etc.
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^^This
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Whats the big deal? My mother & father both smoke and drank before, during and after my brother and I were born and last time I checked we are both functioning human beings.
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You guys sound really dumb. Did you know that not every drunk driver crashes? Or that not every person who has unprotected sex gets HIV or pregnant? What kind of lame reasoning is it that? “Because it doesn’t happen all the time it never will”. What kind of loser takes that chance? It’s not about being American, it’s about doing all that you can to ensure the health of the child that didn’t ask to be born to a mother that couldn’t go a year without alcohol. I mean really it’s not rocket science. Not everyone on crack gives birth to a crack baby either. Guess its ok go to do that while pregnant too. Seriously what kind of selfishly twisted logic are you people using?
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I am astounded by the number of women who find it acceptable to drink –even a little– while pregnant. It’s very selfish.
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I had one drink the night before my wedding and my MIL was none too pleased… However, I clearly recall her daughter consuming an entire carton of Red Bear Vodka on her hens night (whilst pregnant).
Having a drink while pregnant is fine – moderation should be the issue, not carrying on over a couple of wines.
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Well, I drank like a fish and smoked liked a chimney with all 3 of mine – and they are pretty much fine.
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Someone said here in Europe it’s okay to drink during pregnancy… Well, I’m European and I beg to differ. It’s not. Maybe Sienna’s doctor told her it’s okay to drink, I don’t know, but it’s weird to see her drink alcohol. Period.
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The question is: Do you really have to drink while pregnant? Is it really necassary? Ok, the odds are good that nothing will happen if you only drink a glass once in a while but if your child is born and has any health issues you will definately regret it.
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It is not OK to drink while pregnant – I teach a class of feotal Alcohol Syndrone children. All whose parents drank while pregnant! Very sad and unfortunately not many people realise the effects it can have on the development of a child. Those of you who agree with drinking during pregnancy, go and visit a special needs school and look at the devestating effects alcohol has on pregnancy……
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Re the post about my friend wine and pregnancy below and another above…. I don’t see Sienna and a one or two glasses a week kind of girl. I see her imbibing a lot more than that.
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Sorry about my spelling..
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I think if there’s a controversy about whether or not something is safe, a pregnant women should go with the side of caution. So she gives up alcohol for nine months of her entire life to be sure the baby will be safe – I think she’ll live without booze for nine months. Being a parent requires A LOT of sacrifices so it’s a good time to start getting used to a small one (and if it’s not a small one, you probably have other problems). That said, it is possible her boyfriend ordered two bottles of wine during their time at the cafe. Just because there are two bottles on the table doesn’t mean one of them is hers.
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One glass is fine every now and then – it would be far worse if she was still smoking and drugging which it doesn’t appear she is so it’s fine.
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A friend of mine was advised to have one or two glasses a week because it’s supposed to be good for the heart (mommy and baby). She had a miscarriage/still birth prior to having her little girl. The cause was a heart defect. Her little girl is perfect and precious….
HOWEVER… if you want me to dog on Sienna I will. She’s just annoying and her outfit makes her look fat not pregnant.
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