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I don’t even have the words for the mess you are about to watch. I mean, we KNEW that Lindsay Lohan was going to be a trainwreck in Lifetime’s Liz & Dick. We KNEW she was going to be cracked out of her skull, like always. We knew that the drugs and liquor and whatever else she’s done has all messed with Lindsay’s mind to the point where her “talent” has left her completely. But even I’m kind of shocked by the stupidity of this trailer. Like, I guess Lifetime is hoping that if they just make really fast edits, we won’t be able to get enough of a glimpse of the cracktastrophe. But even I can tell that Lindsay pretty much just put on a brunette wig and smoked a few thousand cigs, and that was it for her “preparation”. It’s an abomination.
And just like that *poof* Grant Bowler never found work again. Poor Grant Bowler. I mean, he doesn’t look like Richard Burton, he doesn’t sound like Richard Burton, but I get the sense that he was actually trying, you know? Poor dude. Taken out by a narcissistic crackhead.
Meanwhile, I have some new evidence about how Lindsay has been paying her bills over the past few months. GO HERE to see some new photos of Lindsay last night in New York. She’s carrying a child. An actual child. The little boy is the son of artist Domingo Zapata, a man of enormous wealth who stays at the Marmont when he’s in LA. Fascinating! Zapata is also the dude who allowed Crackie to “borrow” the Porsche Cayenne that she was driving when she clipped a pedestrian. Maybe he thinks The Cracken is living, crack-smoking performance art.
Promotional images courtesy of Lifetime, WENN.
Written by Kaiser
Posted in Lindsay Lohan, Travel

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I cant’ see it in my country damn youtube!
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Me neither, dammit!
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me too. ㅡ_ㅡ!!!
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Same here.
But Grant Bowler?
…hmm… Was he on Ugly Betty? The name rings a bell.
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Not sure about Ugly Betty, but he was on True Blood.
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Just Googled, and yep, he was also on Ugly Betty.
He has a good reputation as a solid actor; I hope his career doesn’t totally tank from this crack-fiasco.
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He was Cooter (head of Russell Edgington’s Nazi werewolves) season before last on TB, and I read that he was also on UB (for a story arc, I think).
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He’s on a crapload of shows here in Oz.
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He was in Lost, too. Briefly.
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just google ‘Liz & Dick trailer’ on youtube
it’s there for all to see
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Download something like Hotspot Shield which hides that you are surfing from overseas.
I did it a few months ago out of frustration over not being able to see Daily Show clips. Works like a charm on video clips but not with trying to order videos from Amazon.
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Now where were you when I was living out of country? Used to drive me mad.
She sounds like Blohan, all raspy and out of it. Elizabeth had the most beautiful voice.
AND her screaming and throwing the vase? Not the slightest amount of actual rage.
She sounds like Marge Simpson’s sisters, but on crack. I cannot wait for this mess. Yeah, I’ll be watching.
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Thank you! That’s a nice trick to know
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Be grateful. I feel the need to take a shower after seeing that.
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Oh for Crack’s sake … I just saw it.
*shudders* Everyone round to mine for therapeutic cracktinis and disinfectant showers.
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Try on youtube, just type “Liz and Dick Teaser”.
Prepare yourself for the agony: when she whines, like a spoiled, high-out-of-her-skull teenager, “Who’s counting?”… damn, this woman never grew older than her Mean Girls days, did she?
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Same! Aaaaargh! But then it may blind me anyway! Ha!
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Grant Bowler was so good in ‘Outrageous Fortune’. le sigh.
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I feel bad for him, he is really good. I feel like he should’ve at least found a decent role on television by now.
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outrageous is still my favourite show! , Actually re-watched season 2 last week and Grant is so good as Wolf, I still have hopes he will be ok in this (though why he agreed to co-star with crackie baffles me..)
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I have the series 1 box set and got my partner, a drama teacher/theatre director hooked. I hope he can manage to rise above this. Why, Grant, why?
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Oh dear…
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Well I got my laugh for the day. That voice, her face, oh god. XD Elizabeth must be rolling in her grave.
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Worst decision ever to cast her as Liz Taylor. Lifetime should be ashamed of themselves for disgracing Liz’s memory in this manner. They certainly scraped the bottom of the barrel with picking Linsday… Poor, poor choice!!!!!
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I agree , and When you are an actress you are suppose to be able to make us believe you are the character you are playing and bring us into that world and it’s just impossible to see that with her. All I see is Lohan in costumes.
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Yep, worst stunt casting ever.
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Oh my, I am SO excited to watch this. I’d suggest we play a drinking game where you take a shot every time her double chin ruins a scene, but I don’t want to die of alcohol poisoning.
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I can’t wait to see this mess too! I agree, that drinking game could be dangerous for us! Although for the Cracken, it’s the equivalent to breakfast.
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I also can’t wait to see it! It’s going to be SUCH a mess
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And every time her accent slips, we get into our cars and run into something?
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Or drink anytime she overacts! hahah
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“WHO’S COUNTING???!?!?!?!?!??”
Oh my god. This is going to be so wonderful. Why do we have to wait until November?!
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cmc – One word: Sweeps.
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Thank God. I didn’t want to be the first person to admit that I can’t wait to watch this
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Oh, I’m DVR-ing this mess, just so I can re-watch the especially crackie scenes! (And to skip the commercials, natch.)
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haha probably be easier to just chug a fifth of vodka before the movie starts
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I’m going to smoke it up. Will be a comedy that way.
Yep, some bud and champagne should make this amusing as hell.
This can only be taken as a joke, a big many chinned joke. Lifetime, this may be the only time I watch one of your movies!
She does sound just like herself in Mean Girls. Ah, to peak at 17, what a life. What will SHE be doing on November 3rd??? No, seriously, I wonder.
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In jail? Overdose?
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the clips remind me of 8th grade ‘Introduction to Drama’ class! you know, when you have a really, serious scene, and boy…you’re angry!
‘I’m acting ‘Angry’ and now…I’m acting ‘sad’ and then, I’ll scrunch up my face again and act ‘Mad’!’
Acting…is Believing!!!
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Poor Liz. Who at Lifetime did she ever wrong to deserve this…
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God, it’s terrible. Jennifer Love Hewitt as audrey hepburn doesn’t look that bad now. Well done Lifetime…
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^ this! Absolutely, undoubtedly, for sure ^ this! You think they would learn.
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Learn what? How many other Lifetime movies have you watched or are you able to recall? It’s LIFETIME people, not Masterpiece Theater. Whatever brings the ratings.
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This is so uproariously bad…worse than i even dreamed it could be. That voice! Her voice alone is enough to raise Elizabeth out of her grave to come beat on Lindsay’s ass, and I hope she does!
And I have to ask, about all these very rich men who keep coughing up tons of money for Lindsay: really? I don’t know any men this rich, but of the moderately wealthy people I know, they do not want to part with their cash for the sake of wasted, f—-ed up people. Is her notoriety enough to make them feel part of some elite group of losers? I’m pretty sure that (other than allowing herself to be __________ upon) she doesn’t do anything in the bedroom that cannot be readily found elsewhere in a much cleaner, cuter package. I. JUST. DON’T. GET. IT. And if I were that little boy’s mother, I would be rushing to court to prevent his “father” from ever being alone with that kid again and putting him into the arms of that drug-addicted, dangerous turd of a person.
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“I. JUST. DON’T. GET. IT.”
Nor do I Boobs, nor do I. *SMDH*
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Boobs?
Freudian slip? :p
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It’s a nickname I got one time…we were all live-chatting during a Lilo court appearance, and I pointed out that once again, Lindsay sashayed braless into court, “Boobs akimbo,” and the name stuck.
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Now when she waltzes in, it’s chins akimbo
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Good one, whisky!
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Worked @ a Hedge Fund — no judging please, school loans are brutal — the amount of money these guys make and — I hate to say this — worse trash then LiLO they spend it on is a weekly routine. Men with money and power love the trashy, messed up girls — LiLo is a huge score on that front.
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YEEUCK! Not at the hedge fund thing, but the rest of it.
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I expected worse… but that doesn’t say anything
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Wow that’s bad!!! Lord! Elizabeth Taylor is gonna come back and haunt Lindsey’s ass!!! Why would they pick Crackie? WHY!!! LOL!
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Perhaps a good haunting would do her good… Maybe show her she needs to get off the sauce (& everything else) for good.
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It looks like a white trash budget girl playing dress up. Liz was a WOMAN in every sense of the word. Having a duck-lipped, raspy-voiced club chick playing her is hysterical.
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Yes, she looks like a girl playing dress up. Liz was actually glamourous and the men really dug her. Lindsay? The opposite. Terrible wig, by the way. Sign me up for the drinking game.
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Lifetime HAD to cast Lohan as Liz. It’s the only way this show is going to get any publicity or watched.
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Thank you.
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Actually, someone said something on another Blohan thread about how this movie was originally an epic about Richard & Elizabeth: A Love Story (or something like that) that the dude peddled around for like four years, but could never get it off the ground.
Enter one of Blohan’s *ahem* benefactors (johns) with some pull (one of those sex-taped blackmailed guys?) got involved and made hiring Blohan a condition of funding for the production.
The title got changed; the flick got made; and here we are.
(I don’t know if this is true or not, but this IS a gossip site, and that’s good gossip!)
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Yes I said that I read it about the time she was coming out of house arrest and Lohan Inc was spinning all the jobs she had lined up so the judge would go soft on her hours….Can’t think of the place I saw it but it was on several sites.at the time…the Original Title was on TMZ as Elizabeth and Richard..A Story of True Love…and the writer had been pleddling it around for about 4 yrs and could get fianncing and was looking for backers…There was suppose to be three actress’s playing Elizabeth .a young Elizabeth , a meddle age one and a older one…Lindsay was suppose to be trying for the younger part…then it died out and in a few week It wass announced that she had the part and people was wondering who the older Elizabeth was goin gto be then suddenly its a Lohan Inc production called Liz and Dick and the story was completely changed…Someone bought that role for her and Lohan Inc had the last say in everything ..even costumes and certainly wigs…they have Lindsay look all over them every dam on is to long and wrong……Larry Thompason sold out to the devil now he is going to pay…
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Thanks, Hillbilly!
I knew I read it in someone’s comments (yours) on this site.
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That was amazing. It’s a lifetime movie and the best lifetime movies have to be cheesy and over the top. Which is why the late 80′s and early 90′s produce the best movies.
This looks on with those movies. I can’t wait to watch this.
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If her career ever spirals down to the point of pornography, it will be called Lin & Dick.
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Yes!
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Her accent was fine…until the end, when she slipped into full-on Cady from Mean Girls.
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she looks more like Leona Helmsley than Elizabeth Taylor and if I was sure it didn’t ruin my computer I’d be throwing tomatoes at it.. I feel bad for Grant Bowler, he’ll never be able to wash that stank off..
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So, is Lindsay Lohan holding that kid for ransom? Why would anyone, ever, let Lindsay Lohan hold their little boy? Gah!
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Ransom? His daddy was withholding her crack support and she was holding him hostage in lieu of crack payment.
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Hahahaahaa
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I’d love to know what mummys reaction was.
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The guy played a bit part in True blood and starred in a made for horror TV movie called Steve Niles Remains. He wasn’t exactly going places. However, I believe his acting (however mediocre) will look Oscar worthy next to Blobhan, so this may result in more work for him. If this was his plan, the man is a genius!
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Mort that’s exactly what I was thinking. Cooter is a genius, who knew?!
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A couple of my friends – who are Aussies – actually like Grant Bowler, think he’s a decent actor, and were APPALLED – no other word to describe their reactions to learn that he was doing anything with Lindsay Lohan. They weren’t even upset about the fact that it was Lifetime. ‘Twas the Cracken that got them so upset!
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Poor cooter, he should’ve stayed dead
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No, no and no.
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How is it possible that she was a better actress in PARENT TRAP when she was like 12? She cannot act AT ALL now – just reads lines and acts huffy. It’s like a high school play but with better costumes. You never forget for one second that you’re watching Lilo trying to act.
What happened to the woman who lent them the real Liz’s trailer?
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Omg that is how she acts! Perfect way to describe it, readhing line and acting huffy. But thats always the way she’s done it. She’s always a bad actress
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“she just reads lines and acts huffy. It’s like a high school play but with better costumes”
EXACTLY! And yes, she was a better actress when she was 12, which is just sad on so many levels.
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You know Belle, I’ve not heard/read another word about it. I wonder if Lifetime will comment on it, or if a lawsuit is forthcoming.
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The proof is in the fact that god didn’t make that woman blond and Lindsay was innocent because Suge’s son tried to tear her down because she was doing so well and I’m the same size I was in high school and it was a misunderstanding and the judge is going to be fired because Lindsay never should have been sent to jail because those weren’t even her pants.
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I boycotted lifetime when Project Runway season 8 gave Gretchen the win instead of Mondo. Now, I think I’m ready to watch again.
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It was really good this season imo. A good friend of mine also stopped watching after they gave Gretchen that win. That was horrendous!
Also ~ I was watching The Pyramid (remake of $25,000 Pyramid) and they actually had CHINsay as a subject for clues with shoplifting and jail as 2 of the words!!!
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Well heck, ladies, I may have to go on demand and watch this season. I’m still upset about Mondo, but I have seen him on a few things, so I’m glad he’s doing well
I really liked him!
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O_o hehe that would be awesome to see … link pls?
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I know girl. But you never hear anything about Wretchen and Mondo’s doing great. He’s my hometown boy.
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OMG ME TOO!
or as I like to call the super bland girl with bangs who ISNT LeAnn.
MONDO WAS ROBBED AND IS A FASHION GENUIS!
I missed last season because i canceled cable for a year but this season is pretty good. Although I WAS SHOCKED by last nights elimination, Elena is a one trick pony and ALL drama!
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I agree! I haven’t really liked anything Elena has done. Hers was beyond awful. The one who went home’s (not to spoil anyone!) was actually very pretty. It just needed some interest in the top part.
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I was always of the opinion that Lifetime only created PR All-Stars to right the wrong that was season 8. It was apparent that Mondo was set to win from day one (and rightfully so), but it was a little sad to see how jaded and “over it” he’d become on All-Stars compared to the first time around.
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I still remember Heidi wanting Mondo to win and that bitchy tangerine (Margaret Cho’s name for him) yelling at her about how Gretchen was hip and new and a move forward in fashion. Her clothes are awful! I didn’t realize anyone felt the same way! Thanks!
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Hello?
In that scene where she says”You screwed that witch?” and tosses the drink over his head on the wall does that set look like Liz Taylor’s trailer that was trashed?
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My birthday is in November so watching this is going to be my birthday present to myself!
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hahahahaha I can’t wait for this mess! I think Belle Epoch nailed it when she said all Lilo does is act huffy in movies. She can’t act for shit.
I hope the Go Fug Yourself girls do recap of this, they have the best Lifetime recaps
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Honestly, that was delicious. Such a train wreck-
I can’t wait!
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Apparently Dina Lohan was “born into show busines”….
She didn’t do enough damage on Dr. Phil & felt the need to comment on E!
http://www.eonline.com/news/347683/lindsay-lohan-mom-dina-lohan-talks-lilo-police-fiasco-regrets-pushing-her-to-become-a-child-star?cmpid=rss-000000-rssfeed-365-topstories&utm_source=eonline&utm_medium=rssfeeds&utm_campaign=rss_topstories
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Have you seen the CB story about Dina blaming Gayvin Doyle for all of Blohans latest CRACKnanigans?
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LOLOLOL…I can’t wait!!!
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if there was & there will be a movie about Lindsays life I hope there is a scene where Amanda & Lindsay are having a heated discussion about fender-benders. Amanda could say ” 20 crashes linds” & LILO screeches back “look who’s counting” and WO is heard from the background slurring “19 are obsolete”.
I would love to see Lindsay get prepared for the red carpet of this movie only to be reminded it’s lifetime & on cable. wish I had it. I will have to admit to friends with DVR I need a favor.
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You will be relieved of any pain you felt watching LL and this trailer by going to Huffington Post and watching the trailer for Les Miserables. The cast – Hugh Jackman, Ann Hathaway, Russell Crowe, Amanda Seyfried — give stunning performances. I intend to be first in line to see this.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/20/les-miserables-extended-trailer-anne-hathaway-russell-crowe-hugh-jackman_n_1900640.html
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Bless you for this!!
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I saw that trailer on HuffPo yesterday. I didn’t even like the stage show, but the trailer made me want to see the movie. And they sing “live” in their scenes, so no miming.
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That was a great palate cleanser. Thank you.
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I know everyone wants to watch this mess and it will get huge ratings even though it sends the wrong message.
Blohan will think America loves her and producers will hire her because she brings in the ratings. We’re helping to feed the delusions that keep the Lohan clan going.
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+1,000,000
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I know, I know but I’m a ‘train wreck addict’, I can’t help it. *hanging my head in SHAME!*
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Do you think there are enough people like us who will watch for her? My husband didn’t even recognize her on SNL and turned it off. Her Playboy issue didn’t sell.
I think we are a small slice, us true Crackenistas. Watch away!!!
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Yes Original Tiffany, I do. Peeps who watch the news and are disgusted by her behavior, no, will not tune in. But true ‘CRACKENISTA’S’ (love that word btw) absolutely will. The lure, the pull is too strong to resist.
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Yes, Mad & OTIff, we true Crackenistas (also love that name!) will tune in, for the laughs and insanity of it all. I don’t know that I’ll watch it live, but I will definitely be DVR-ing it, just like I did with Mother Cracken’s Dr. Phil show. (I still haven’t made it all the way through that yet!)
The ones who won’t watch will be any and EVERY one who ever knew or was associated with Dame Elizabeth; those who don’t want to contribute to the delinquency of a degenerate; people who don’t have Lifetime; and the ones Tiff mentioned.
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Lindsay is playing a lot lizard version of Elizabeth Taylor.
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Lindsay Lohan and Elizabeth Taylor don’t even belong in the same sentence.
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So, the key to finding a rich sugar daddy is to be a crackhead who crashes parties at luxury hotels, sleeps with the rich guys at the parties and become drug buddies, then get them to pay your hotel bill while doing this repeatedly every night? Just wondering how she can continue to do this. She looks awful.
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You know, if she dyed her hair that color black and shortened it some, she would look really pretty. She might just get a few more gigs that are more appropriate for her age, too. Am I the only one that thinks the picture of her in the black dress and ruby jewelry is a great pic? Besides the fact she’s a Crackie McCracken?
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What makes me mad is that this will probably be “THE MOST WATCHED MINI SERIES OF ALL TIME!” People will tune in out of morbid curiosity.
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The clip was what 30seconds and I only heard her talk twice. How can everyone conclude its bad from that geez. She’s got issues I’ve talked my share of smack about the “cracken” as she’s referred to up here, but really 30 second clip and suddenly everyone is a critic? Smdh
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But, Chria, don’t you think the producers would showcase her acting in the trailer if any of it was good? I think the absence of her speaking in the trailer is indicative of how bad it must be as a whole. Plus, be honest, her acting is awful – throwing things, having a hissy fit… all seem like caricatures without real depth of feeling or emotion.
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If it Was THAT bad I’m sure they’d cut production period. People are going to tie peoples private lives with their jobs regardless this I know, but you can’t conclude anything from 30 seconds sorry.
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+ 1 with everything you’ve said!
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so many cuts and fadeaways, i feel like a migraine coming.
it’s like they don’t want to dwell on one thing too long and keep flashing to texts and other flashy graphics so we don’t have enough time to see ALL of the rot.
but long enough, still, lifetime.
i can even smell alcohol and stale cigs from my screen.
dear lawd in heaven.
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It didn’t seem too bad to me, until she actually spoke.
I’m a season pass holder to the Lindsay Lohan Shadenfreude Opera, but I doubt this will be any worse than other made-for-TV movies.
The promotional poster is kind of awful, though.
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Lindsay Lohan Shadenfreude Opera
The best and +1.
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I had forgotten how squeaky her voice is.
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This is going to destroy what’s left of her acting career, if she even had a chance.
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Blohan sounds just like she always does, so they obviously didn’t “waste” money on a vocal coach.
I saw this earlier this a.m. before I went to bed, because I just couldn’t resist.
Needless to say, I had nightmares!
*skips up to read the comments, cracktini in hand*
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Of course they didn’t pay for a vocal coach, she wouldn’t have shown up anyway. Complete waste of time & money. This TRICK doesn’t ‘rehearse’ nothin. SNL, rumored to have sloughed off rehearsal all week in favor of her favorite pasttime, partying. Glee, same. No prep for Liz and Dick, as she was on set one minute and filming the next. As for her PORNO, The CLAMyons, well, no need for rehearsal there. Blohan is an EXPERT with getting nude, getting on her knees, and opening her mouth. Lastly, Scary Movie 5 was widely reported, she ‘blew’ them off for rehearsals and wardrobe fittings and couldn’t even be bothered to make the plane. So in the end, a vocal coach would have been a waste.
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BWAHAHAHA @ “CLAMyons”!
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I doubt I’ll watch this mess of a movie. I just know it’s going to be one big eye rolling, groaning in disgust, painful cringefest, and once it’s been seen there is no unseeing.
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Wow, I hate myself but I so want to see this. It looks so awful … I just … can’t look away. I feel bad for Grant Bowler (sp?) because he actually reminds me of Richard Burton. Like the way he looks and sounds I could see a resemblance … but Lohan didn’t modify her voice or anything. It’s just her … in a brown wig. Such a beautiful beautiful mess.
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I want to watch this mess of a lt movie like I wanna see how shes gonna suck. But im also conflited not to watch it. Cause I dont wany to support the lohan trainwreck express in any way shape or form.
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I don’t know if I’m looking at another trailer, but she didn’t even say or do much for everyone to say her acting was terrible. It was just a bunch of still shots. Even the dude only said like one thing in the trailer.
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ummm…I don’t think it’s that bad? Liz was over.the.top. And an over-actor. There isn’t much “act” there.
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Did she bother to study Elizabeth at all before this? She didn’t remotely try to capture Liz’s voice. Pathetic.
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I Just DONT understand the face bloat! I hate to ruin The fun, but it’s a myth that cocaine causes bloat.
Alcohol, anti-inflammatory steroids, excess sodium…. They cause bloat.
BULIMIA causes face bloat.
Like… Wtf. It looks absolutely hideous. If she has enough money$ for lip injections and cheekbone juvaderm, she has enough $$$ to go to an effin doctor. Or get lipo on tha face. Or buy some water-pills.
She would look 20x younger, less like a crackhead, and more refined if her face was not bloated.
DINA I KNOW YOU ARE READING THIS. TELL HER TO STOP PUKING! “making [her]self sick all of the time”
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A complete insult to the real Liz Taylor.
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Truly atrocious. Can’t wait to see it. haha.
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Meh….that voice! Liz had a voice like velvet. Crackie has a voice like gravel.
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I called it. I said when I heard she was playing Liz Taylor that we would just see Lindsay, not Liz Taylor. They should have cast a real actress.
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She’s a good actress. I’ll say it with utter seriousness. And the fact that she’s talented makes it all the more sad.
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The only thing this movie will show is that money will buy anything in Hollywood…
She has the wrong body,
She has the wrong face
She has the wrong voice
She like casting a scraggly street mutt to play a poodle in the movies they can dye its fur and clip it hair in a poodle cut but all you will see is a mutt trying to look like a poodle…
The only thing they had the same was they are both amoral…but Liz at least had class for all her amorality..and elegance and softness and likablity… Lindsay Lohan is clash, and dirty and nasty and it shows though everything she does…she is a WHORE plain and simple..
You will never see Elisabeth Taylor in that movie you will see Lindsay Lohan in a black wig in that movie…
As for that beautiful poster ….Hate to break it to ya but that thing is as photo shopped as the Playboy shots..LOL…..and is you look at the stills in the montage they flash in that trailer everyone has been digitally “enhance and shopping…expecially the one in the green hat…her chin as been shopped to hell and back….
As a a woman who keep Richard Burton picture in her scrapbook as a teen Sorry Grant Boyer is Nothing like Richard…Richard sizzles with a glance of those blue eyes…nasty sexy every girl wanted him to look at her…LOL ..Grant just kind of fizzles…..
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Guys this is lifetime. All lifetime movies I’ve seen are this bad. It’s not going to be theatre quality or masterpiece theatre quality. It is still definitely a shaming piece of crud, but what’d you expect? It’s lifetime and lilo put together.
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Whoever edited the trailer deserves a hefty paycheck. All the little clips look okay-it’s the last clip when LiLo actually speaks on camera (vs the one where she is throwing something at “Burton” from off camera) that you realize just how bad Lindsay is going to be as Liz.
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