Taylor Swift admits she ‘heard from the guy that most of Red is about’: Jake G.?

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Holy crap, Taylor Swift’s cover story for New York Magazine is long. It’s really, really long. You can read it here if you want to spend twenty minutes of your day on a time-suck article that I can sum up for you quickly: Tay-Tay is the reigning queen of pop music and she’s a shrewd businesswoman and a control-freak about her sparkles-and-ponies image. There. Done. I skim so you don’t have to, and you’ll thank me later. Taylor did talk about some interesting stuff and she made some cryptic remarks about (I guess) Jake Gyllenhaal and Harry Styles. Some highlights:

She’s from Pennsylvania & she’s super-country: “Country radio is much more like a family than any other group of people that I’ve met. They just say, ‘Look, we’ve known each other for years. You’ve stood by us, and we’ve stood by you. That’s how this works.’ ”

She gives back: In October, the singer attended a gala ribbon-cutting ceremony for the Taylor Swift Education Center at the Country Music Hall of Fame and Museum, which she personally endowed with a $4 million donation. “I love being a part of the country-music community,” she told me.

Someday she’ll quit music: “When I’m 40 and nobody wants to see me in a sparkly dress anymore, I’ll be, like: ‘Cool, I’ll just go in the studio and write songs for kids.’ It’s looking like a good pension plan.”

The “spin” on how she writes slam-songs about exes: “There’s a spin on every single celebrity out there. I know that one of my spins is: ‘Oh, Taylor’s heartbroken. Oh, Taylor fell in love and the guy broke her heart. She’s sad all the time, and lonely.’ I mean, they can say that all they want. Those are real feelings that every single person goes through. I think that it’s okay to be mad at someone who hurt you. This isn’t about, like, the pageantry of trying to seem like nothing affects you. I’m a songwriter. Everything affects me.”

Is this Jake Gyllenhaal? “I heard from the guy that most of Red is about,” Swift said. “He was like, ‘I just listened to the album, and that was a really bittersweet experience for me. It was like going through a photo album.’ That was nice. Nicer than, like, the ranting, crazy e-mails I got from this one dude. It’s a lot more mature way of looking at a love that was wonderful until it was terrible, and both people got hurt from it—but one of those people happened to be a songwriter.” She rolled her eyes. “So what are you going to do? Did you not Wikipedia me before you called me up?”

Her next album: “I have a lot of things to draw from emotionally at the moment. But I have to draw from them with a different perspective than on Red. I can’t say the same things over and over, you know? I mean, I think it’s just all the more important that I don’t ever allow myself to coast. At the same time, there’s a mistake that I see artists make when they’re on their fourth or fifth record, and they think innovation is more important than solid songwriting. The most terrible letdown as a listener for me is when I’m listening to a song and I see what they were trying to do. Like, where there’s a dance break that doesn’t make any sense, there’s a rap that shouldn’t be there, there’s like a beat change that’s, like, the coolest, hippest thing this six months—but it has nothing to do with the feeling, it has nothing to do with the emotion, it has nothing to do with the lyric. I never want to put things in songs just because that might make them popular, like, on the more rhythmic stations or in dance clubs. I really don’t want a compilation of sounds. I just need them to be songs.”

She’s always going to write about love: “I only write songs about crazy love. If I go on two dates with a guy and we don’t click, I’m not writing a song about that. It didn’t matter in the emotional grand scheme of things. There’s a lot that goes on in daily life that isn’t really worth turning into a verse and a chorus.”

[From Vulture]

Let’s parse! I think “the guy that most of Red is about” is definitely Jake Gyllenhaal. I think Jake is all over Red and that was her biggest relationship at the time she was writing the album. But who is this? “Nicer than, like, the ranting, crazy e-mails I got from this one dude.” John Mayer? Harry Styles? One of them, right? Would Harry Styles send her ranting, crazy emails? I doubt it. I think Harry is over it, right? Now, John Mayer… he seems like a great candidate for an email ranter. As for: “So what are you going to do? Did you not Wikipedia me before you called me up?” Seriously. I kind of agree with her on that one – you know what you’re getting with Taylor Swift. If you’re a dude and you want to date her, just know that she has stalker eyes and she’ll sh-t talk you in a song.

Also – MSN has an interesting “exclusive” about Tay-Tay and Harry Styles maybe kind of getting back together – you can read the story here. Allegedly, they are going to spend the Hew Year together and a source says, “Harry has never really gotten over Taylor and thinks she is gorgeous. He is going to spend some serious time with her in the run up to Christmas and New Year.”

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  1. LadyMTL says:

    “I can’t say the same things over and over, you know?” Ummmm…you pretty much do that all the time, Taylor.

    In all seriousness, I’m not a hater and I think some of her songs are quite catchy but she has maybe two themes, breakups and having fun / hanging out with her friends. Not exactly a vast repertoire but hey, maybe her next album will be different. 😛

    • Algernon says:

      I’m not a fan of her music, but I get why it all sounds the same. She’s 23 and sheltered. What does she really have to write about?

  2. Liv says:

    Harry Styles is into her again because she was at the Victoria’s Secret Fashion Show! Ha!

  3. Tiffany27 says:

    I hope her and Harry do get back together. That was such a delicious hot mess of a breakup and the 1D stans tears would be glorious.

  4. Erna says:

    Tay-Tay comes across as that kind of person who would try to bully or throw shade at Jennifer Lawrence.

  5. Hannah says:

    She really doesn’t know what love is, does she?

  6. bsh says:

    Why do press outlets and magazines support and consistently recall fake pr-relationships which were clearly born and dead inside of a management office? Are we still debating about Taylor and Harry? Everybody knows the truth by now, everyone! Still, they are now trying to plant out that the two hooked up again in London. I believe that Taylor and Jake were for real (at least, on her part.. I am still convinced he’s gay and was bearding, just like Harry Styles), same goes for Taylor and John Mayer.. but Taylor and Harry? Taylor and Taylor (Lautner)? PLEASE! It makes me laugh how they wanted the audience to buy an alleged feud between Swift and Cara Delevigne.. as if a girl could be jealous of her former beard’s new beard!

  7. Not says:

    poor girl, she’s trying

  8. Lark says:

    I believe that Harry Styles rumor came because she was looking at property in London…and I highly, highly doubt she was looking at property in London because of him. Her dad was some big wig banker and seems to be advising her to invest in real estate, and it would make sense for her to have a European base…

    Unpopular opinion, but I think Taylor will outlast Miley and Katy Perry…I think Gaga is going to retire her schtick and go to Broadway or become more of a cult figure than a mainstream pop star in the future…..Katy Perry is pushing 30 and still playing up the teen base and all….and the article made a valid point in that Taylor has a fan base that now ranges from children to grown ass women….She somehow managed to transform herself from sparkly glitter pony into a more hipster country 20 something and maintain that fanbase while gaining a more adult audience…I wouldn’t be surprised if Taylor was around in 20 years, especially if she expands her song-writing topics…

    And I totally think John was the one to send the insane, ranty e-mail

    • blue marie says:

      Of course she’ll outlast them, she writes her own music. Not only that but if the pop star thing isn’t working out for her she can always go back to just country and folks will still buy her music. The only thing I would say is that as she grows, she just needs to make sure her music grows with her.

      And yeah, you know that email was from John (or maybe Katy posing as John?ha, wouldn’t that be funny)

      • Tessa says:

        I think her music is appropriate for her age. She’s 23, not 35. Red was more mature than her last album, and I expect her next album to be even more mature as well. She IS young. She’s been around awhile, sure, but this call for her music to be all grown up and mature seems a little… premature. Katy Perry is like six years older than Taylor, and her music is juvenile as hell. Taylor is fine imo, and she will mature with time.

      • blue marie says:

        @ Tessa.. I said pretty much the same thing. I don’t remember calling for her music to be mature. All I said was as she grows (and I meant grows up) that her music never to grow with her.

      • Tessa says:

        Yeah, I know. I was agreeing with you and adding on to what you said. That’s all.

      • blue marie says:

        ha, sorry. I’m slow this morning, I’ll just go grab my coffee now..

    • LadySlippers says:

      I agree with you Lark. Her albums are more mature than most give her credit for. Sure, she has some cheesy songs but, then again, who doesn’t?

    • Xantha says:

      Eh only time will tell if she lasts. She might be big right now and yeah she has fourth multiplatinum albums but there’s always big pop stars around. You can never tell who’s going to blow up and challenge her and it will happen at some point.

      And since when writing your own songs mean you’re gonna last longer anyway? Many singers write their own songs and that still didn’t stop them from fading away.

  9. jelynn says:

    My favorite part was when she was discussing how she’ll songwriter for others when she gets older. The wording was a spot-on description of what she does now: “I’ll just go in the studio and write songs for kids.” I can’t stand when people endlessly praise her songwriting. As a wise witch once said, “Just because you have the emotional range of a teaspoon doesn’t mean we all have.”

    • meh says:

      Thank you! That quote describes Taylor Swift so perfectly! Her music is so incredibly navel-gazing. “Well if I dot write about obsessive love, what is there to write about, a lukewarm date?” How about writing about something outside of your dating life? Or outside of your own life all together? Apparently she has no thoughts about anything else in the world that are worth sharing.

      • Dani2 says:

        Just curious, would you say that this statement you made – “How about writing about something outside of your dating life? Or outside of your own life all together?” – applies to Adele as well?

        It just baffles me that people use this same argument for Taylor every time, she’s doing what majority of people in contemporary music are doing (writing about relationships) but she seems to be the only one getting any flack for it.

  10. minime says:

    I like the wikipedia part. At least she’s sincere about it. If you date Clooney or DiCaprio you should know better that is not for life and if you date Swift you know that there will be a song (or an album) about you when you break up. Kinda simple math there and their own choice.

  11. Jayna says:

    She sounds like pop to me anymore. Yet there she is at the awards shows for CMA getting a big award for her auto-tuned music constributions.

  12. Tessa says:

    Ever been to Pennsylvania, Vulture? Outside of Philly and Pittsburgh, the whole state is countryside. I mean, if you drive even fifteen minutes out of Pittsburgh you’re in farmland to the North and South, and East of Pittsburgh is all country until you hit the greater Philadelphia area. Real country, just like in the south, accents and all.

    • Apsutter says:

      Yup, I live in Erie and there’s a reason it’s called Pennsyltucky. Two large important cities with a whole lot of nothing in between.

  13. Anna says:

    Ermm…didn’t she put a dubstep break in IKYWT and now she’s talking about how she doesn’t want to do “of the moment” trends?

  14. Jag says:

    So is she throwing shade at both Katy and Gaga for the “throwing sounds together” and “doing something just for innovation sake” (my words)? I think so!

  15. Lucy says:

    I actually think Joe Jonas may be the mail-ranter…

    • Tessa says:

      In my mind it’s John Mayer. And, rightfully. He got it the woooorst . If the songs are bittersweet, sure. If they’re borderline hateful and damaging? Angry emails!

    • Ally8 says:

      I thought of Joe Jonas, too. That whole set of siblings seems very entitled and petulant.

  16. epiphany says:

    Again? This is just like the Sparkles/K-Stew mess… the “relationship” with Gyllenhaal was not real… the “relationship” with Harry Styles was not real… these are fauxmances arranged between management teams to garner PR for both participants. It’s been going on since the earliest days of Hollywood, and it doesn’t always involve someone playing the beard. Behind her insipid, written -from-the-point-of-view-of a-twelve-year-old songs, Swift is a tough minded, extremely ambitious business woman. She didn’t get where she is by being sweet, and she knows exactly what she’s doing when she fake dates one of these guys, and fakes a painful breakup. #MONEYINTHEBANK

  17. Kate says:

    Didn’t she date Jake G. for like five minutes???

    • T.C. says:

      Exactly. She turns 3 month flings into entire albums about relationship heartbreak. If Jake was the one who told her the positive thing about the album them he is just as juvenile as Swifty.

  18. Allie says:

    I will cry, literally water running down my face (sorry, just read the article on the 50 shades of grey girl) if Harry and granny panty McGee start dating again. He’s too good for her!

  19. ag-UK says:

    I grew up in the south and country to me is not the country I hear nowadays and def not her. I am sorry I just don’t get HER. Her songs aren’t great her voice not fantastic the only time I have seen her on TV by accident and she was off key. “it’s a love that was wonderful until it was terrible” so how long did she date JG? 3 months? I will give her she is a shrewd business person and/or has some people around her giving her good advice.

    • MrsB says:

      I grew up in the south as well and you are right her music is more pop than country. But to be fair, not much country music is true country anymore.

  20. Jayna says:

    Okay. This isn’t country, but it is a beautiful song written acoustically on guitar about a foreman on a ranch. This artist wrote it at the age of 24. This is songwriting worthy of nominations and pure poetry in storytelling in songwriting, not Taylor and her guitar and all her baby romances and then getting album of the year at the Grammys a few year ago. Ughhh. She deserves her tween/teen success but not album of the year. What has happened to the Grammys?

    1970 live – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An2a1_Do_fc

  21. haley says:

    Taylor is about as mature as a twelve year old but I would take her over Miley or Gaga any day of the week, which is saying something.

  22. Maggie says:

    I can’t say I love her music but this girl has talent. Not only that but she gave more money to charity last year than any other celebrity. And she puts in the time. It’s not all about showing up for a picture either.

  23. lunchcoma says:

    I wish she wouldn’t do this. There are some good songs on Red. If they were inspired by a three month relationship with a man a decade her senior who a lot of people think is gay, so be it. Songwriters get inspired by all kinds of things, and I’m sure some of my favorite love songs were inspired by one night stands or silly, juvenile flings.

    But we don’t need to know this. Why not just let people take the lyrics at face value? All she’d really need to do is to pull the “we’re just friends” business for the first six months or so of dating someone (like a lot of other celebrities do) and avoid giving interviews like this, and I think a lot of the eyerolling would cease.

  24. Karen81 says:

    Johnny Cash is country. Taylor Swift is bubble gum music.

  25. Isabella says:

    I like her. She makes sense when it comes to songwriting. I enjoyed her last album.

  26. INeedANap says:

    When I thought her sparkly-pony image was her real personality, I didn’t like her. But the more I read about her, the less I can stand her.

    Clearly, Swifty has a powerful and cunning personality. She really comes across as a bada$$ in her professional life. That she chooses to hide this part of her personality in order to project and image of saccharine twee girly-ness makes her all the more terrible. She’s the equivalent of that girl in high school who was actually very smart but intentionally got bad grades so the boys would like her.

    Swifty — admit that you can’t sing, your songwriting is pathetic, and start your own management company. That’s where your strengths lie.

    • Dani2 says:

      LMAO, she sold more of her recent album than Miley, Katy and Gaga did in their first week put together so is the music business her strength? Yes, her multiple award wins and record sales attest to that. If you’d said acting, I’d have agreed, but to say that music isn’t Taylor’s strength at this point in her career is just laughable.

      • INeedANap says:

        Sales are not an indicator of musical ability. She succeeds because she is an excellent business woman (the very thing I was applauding her for), not because of her great artistic talent.

        I think you missed the point of my comment — I think she would completely run the music industry if she focused on the business side.

      • Dani2 says:

        She plays the banjo, guitar, piano AND she sings – she’s no Christina Aguilera vocally but she can sing. She puts on an incredible show as well, her songwriting on Red is some of the best song-writing she has done (listen to “All Too Well”). What you were saying is that she does not have musical talent, which is not true. Taylor’s success is not due solely to a good business mind, but yes, I agree with you, I love that she looks like a cute little church girl but is actually stealing the rug out from under the other pop girls 😉

  27. Down and Out says:

    LOL @ her thinking 40 is old enough to retire with a pension plan. Oh to be a young multimillionaire.

  28. Miss M says:

    I honestly doubt Jake would contact her or listen to her music…
    What about the Kennedy kid?!