Ethan Hawke: ‘People have such a childish view of monogamy & fidelity’

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Back in August, Ethan Hawke gave a very interesting interview to Elle Mag about monogamy, marriage and sex. The gist of the interview was that Ethan has a more “fluid” idea of what constitutes “trust” and “fidelity” within a committed relationship, and he almost (!) admitted that he cheated on Uma Thurman during their marriage (which everyone thinks he did, so maybe he should just admit and own it). Ethan’s summary point seemed to be: “The bottom line is our species is not monogamous. Go talk to a doctor.” As in, it’s his biological necessity to screw around. Doctors have enabled him, that’s how he knows! Well, Ethan has a new interview with Mr. Porter, and he returns to his favorite subject, monogamy and how it has outlived its usefulness. You can read the full Mr. Porter piece here, and here are some highlights:

He grew up in Texas: “[I was] like any young kid wanting attention”. His parents divorced when he was young. “My mother moved around, so every year I was the new kid at school. There was a certain amount of alienation, but you learn to move within a space, to be the person or character others want you to be.”

Every young person…“thinks they’re incredibly unique in their alienation or loneliness. But in a lot of ways I was really average.”

Stage work: The stage is Mr Hawke’s first love, “not because I prefer theatre to movies but because it’s a so much more disciplined art form. You’ve got to be a total moron to be terrible in a movie, there are so many people helping you. On stage it’s easy to be terrible: you have to control your body, breath and temper.” The reason British actors win so many awards, he says, is because they’re so well trained. The older actors Mr Hawke admires include Ms Vanessa Redgrave – “the Bob Dylan of actors” as he calls her – “who haven’t gotten lost to the trappings of vanity the profession lavishes on you.”

His ‘90s heartthrob status: “I never defined myself as that. If you invest a lot in that it’s broken the mind of more than one actor. I wanted to look like Harry Dean Stanton. I always felt my boyish looks prevented me from being considered for serious roles.” Did he have lots of sex as a young star? He smiles. “It was like shooting slingshots or riding a skateboard and doing crazy jumps. I feel very lucky that when I was 23 I was really 23.”

Why did he and Uma Thurman split? “We tried to be as optimistic as we could be: we all want to believe in love and the possibility of love. The older you get, the more you realise how powerful love is. You understand the right ways for emotion to lead your life and the dangerous ways. I don’t regret marrying early. Gattaca was a great moment in my life and a great moment in Uma Thurman’s life and we fell madly in love and wanted to do all that.”

Monogamy & fidelity: “People have such a childish view of monogamy and fidelity. ‘He’s cheated so he’s bad, she’s cheated so she’s bad’, as opposed to a recognition that our species is not monogamous. To act all indignant, that your world has been rocked because your lover wasn’t faithful to you, is a little bit like acting rocked that your hair went grey.”

Is he monogamous? “I am, but in Before Midnight there is the threat of sexual attraction to others and maintaining your sexual identity with your partner over a long period of time. Human beings are sexual beings.” Mr Hawke adds, emphatically, “My relationship with my present wife is thrilling to me and I’m committed to it. But neither she nor I know what shape the future will come in. Sexual fidelity can’t be the whole thing you hang your relationship on. If you really love somebody you want them to grow, but you don’t get to define how that happens. They do.”

Aging: “Turning 40 was super hard, I had always seen myself as ‘the kid’: I started a theatre company at 23, published my first book at 25. I went from being a really old young person to a really young old person. When you’re 35, 36, you’re still trying to be 28, flirting like crazy, staying out late. Now I’m turning my eye to the benefits of ageing. However, anybody who says vanity is not part of life is not telling the truth,” he adds. Indeed, the actor has always been told he has the teeth of an Englishman. “I know that’s not a compliment. When I was younger I was told they gave me character, but now I have character so…,” he laughs. “Ageing is awkward, but you have to let it happen. Flowers bloom, then they dry, but even then they have a kind of beauty.”

[From Mr. Porter]

During the interview, Ethan admits that Maya (his oldest kid) read his Elle interview and “begged” him to consider her feelings when discussing his first marriage and Uma. I think that’s what we have now – in the Elle interview in August, Ethan was being candid and off-the-cuff, and now he’s trying to be more circumspect. I would also suspect that Ethan’s current wife, Ryan Shawhughes, had some stuff to say about the way he made their marriage sound in the Elle interview. Thus, he’s emphasizing how he’s faithful to her (RIGHT NOW) but that it could totally change at any moment because he’s totally human, okay? Like, it’s not even under his control. This sort of mystifies me: “If you really love somebody you want them to grow, but you don’t get to define how that happens. They do.” So, “growing as a human being” = banging other people? So confused.

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  1. Silly says:

    Yes because he was so unchildish In the way he was unfaithful.

  2. Kaya says:

    I understand that you can fall out of love with someone, but that’s why we have divorce. It is not just childish, but awful and inconsiderate and devastating to have your scumbag of a partner cheat on you. What one SHOULD do is get OUT of the relationship instead of being a cheater. This apparently Ethan Hawke doesn’t think is important to clarify.

  3. Vera says:

    To me, being faithful and committed in a relationship is one of the most mature things a human can do. If he doesn’t believe in marital fidelity, then he should simply own up to it instead of talking out of both sides of his mouth.

  4. Eleonor says:

    I get sometimes things in life happen, and people can make mistake, just like people can make work relationships even with infidelities.
    BUT: usually who says things like “monogamy is childish” and stuff like that, is a serial cheater who try to justifies why he can’t keep it in its pants.

  5. Jennifer12 says:

    I guess that’s how he feels when he sleeps with other people. I wonder how he’d feel if he were cheated on? So much douche in one person, and he has THREE daughters.

    • Hakura says:

      I just hope that his assinine comments & moronic superiority speech don’t hurt his daughters. =( Maybe they think of things the way he does, but if they don’t, I could definitely see how seeing your dad say something like this while married to your Mom (or even after a divorce) could cause them to be hurt/upset.

  6. ToodySezHey says:

    Such a douche…

    and my word but did Time snatch his pretty away, HARD.

    Dude, you dont get to talk about being forced into monogamy when NOBODY forced you to get married, TWICE.

    such a douchemarooon.

    • loveisthecoal says:

      That’s the main thing I got out of this article–a quick google search tells me he’s only 43? Dang. I would have put him in his early 50s. Maybe being a douche ages one prematurely.

    • Sloane Wyatt says:

      They say you earn the face you deserve.

    • Hakura says:

      @ToodySezHey – I was going to say the exact same thing! Man he looks *rough*!

      @Sloane – I *completely* agree… One of the ‘less fun’ aspects of aging, losing your pretty facade (when it is, indeed, a facade, & your soul doesn’t match). I mean, I know he’s not related to this story, but Paul Walker was a very good example of this… I believe he had a beautiful sprit/soul, & I couldn’t *believe* he was actually *40*, …& Ethan is a totally selfish douche-canoe, inconsiderate (to his daughter’s feelings on this subject, I hear), & is only 3 years older, but looks like he could be *10-15* years older, easily.

  7. Lucy2 says:

    Ah yes, the classic cheater defense. Biology made me do it.
    The fact that he refers to his wife as his present wife is pretty telling.

  8. Rita says:

    Being young and “human” may mean that one can graze wherever the grass leads them but marriage “IS” about fidelity unless before the wedding both partners agree that whenever the peen or the biscuits cry out in a moment of spontaneity they are free to indulge those urges and if someone gets knocked up or brings home an STD, then their commitment to each other will see them through such “annoyances” of a non-monogamous relationship……and good luck with that.

  9. ojulia123 says:

    Yeah. He totally plans on cheating again.

    • Ice Maiden says:

      Yup. Essentially he’s saying that once his relationship is no longer ‘thrilling’ for him (his wife’s feelings don’t appear to count) he’ll hop on the first fanciable woman he meets. If he’s not doing so already.

      • GeeMoney says:

        Dude, he was cheating on Uma with Ryan Shawhughes (wasn’t she his nanny or something?). It wouldn’t surprise me if he was cheating on her now.

        And if you don’t believe in monogamy, then DON’T GET MARRIED, Mr. Hawke (you were awesome in Dead Poets Society, btw).

  10. Ice Maiden says:

    He is of course correct in the sense that monogamy is not ‘natural’ for human beings. The institution of marriage is a very new thing in the historical scheme of things. But then, what do we do in our lives that’s really ‘natural’? If we obeyed Mother Nature, we’d start reproducing in our early teens (and frequently die as a result, if you’re female) and be dead well before 40. Very little of what we do is ‘natural’ and most of us are pretty glad of that. If you want to follow your ‘natural instincts’, then don’t sign up for a social contract like marriage, and if you do, don’t blame your inability to control yourself on ‘biology’.

  11. Jessibes says:

    I wonder how his current wife thinks about it, and if she has the maturity to cheat too?

  12. SuSu says:

    what he says is not wrong. He just has a strange way to say it because he plays super intellectual.
    People will read a lot into his words exactly why we (me too) have ” such a childish view of monogamy” and then all ladies here will call him a serial cheater and a bad person… and that proofs his words right!

    • Nerd Alert says:

      No it doesn’t prove anything. It just means they disagree with him, like most people.

    • Sloane Wyatt says:

      There’s nothing to read into Ethan’s remarks, SuSu.

      He flatly states that people who believe in fidelity and practice monogamy are childish to feel betrayed when your loved one isn’t faithful. By his lights, we are mature beings if we expect our lovers to break their vows because it’s just a natural part of life, like getting grey hairs and aging. No biggie, people. C’est la vie!

      I hope you haven’t cheated on someone, and then expected them to be bla·sé.

  13. Sarah says:

    because just doing whats on your mind when you want to do it without considering the consequences for the people being hurt by it is so mature…

    im so sick of people using stupid excuses for hurting other people.

    And please, please stop saying “our species is not monogamous” or “sexual fidelity is not natural”. its embarrassing when not very well educated people try to explain biology, especially when its not for the sake of educating or getting a deeper insight into knowledge but only to give yourself an excuse.

    how natural is it to get a trading good (money) for standing in front of a lense attached to a machine that captures moving pictures and sound while you say text lines someone else invented for the sake of people watching a “motion picture” while drinking something as natural as coca cola?
    Every behaviour humans have is “natural”. we cant do anything thats not natural. being able to time travel by snipping your fingers is unnatural. natural behaviour involves everything from hugs and kiss to genocide and rape. so please stop using it as an excuse like its always been used to shame homosexual people.

    no matter how open you are sexually, a betrayal can never be justified. if you dont like the exclusive relatiosnhip thing, dont enter it. simple as that. but people nowadays want everything and thats when you lose everything.

    ps: “my PRESENT wife” Dude…

    • The Girl Who Would Be King Of The Popes says:

      Under normal circumstances the level of scientific insight roaming inside the heads of these impromptu professors doesn’t extend beyond ‘heart go tube juice push’, but dangle a condom in front of them and they’re bestowing the grace of their genius upon us–anything to stick it to those Nobel divas, I’m sure.

  14. frisbeejada says:

    He’s making all sorts of excuses for his promiscuity in an attempt to try and normalise it in a culture where for many loyalty and respect for a partners feelings are still the ideal. If he was really as ‘progressive’ and ‘realistic’ as he’s trying to portray himself he wouldn’t bother to make excuses and he wouldn’t bother to get married again, he would just lead the freewheeling single life he seems to want – but doesn’t actually have the guts to pursue – it’s hard to be alone…a classic example of an emotional wimp who wants it all ways – he really needs to grow up and realise nobody gets it all their way, not ever…

  15. Kate says:

    I just can’t with this guy. He still is his character from Reality Bites. The gray hair and wrinkles (and supposed perspective) haven’t changed him a bit.

  16. RMJ says:

    I actually agree with him that sexual fidelity shouldn’t be the only thing you hang a relationship on. Life is long, and mistakes are made, and that doesn’t necessarily mean that the relationship is irrevocably broken. If my husband were to cheat on me, I wouldn’t dump him immediately. I might, but I would try to fix the marriage first.

    Having said that… there’s a difference between making a mistake during the course of a lifelong commitment and basically going into the marriage not intending to keep one’s vows. Hawke is basically saying that people are entitled to cheat because of biology and that when the sex gets stale with his wife he’ll trade on his celebrity to fool around. And he’s calling himself monogamous. What a joke.

    • Hakura says:

      @RMJ – I did think that was the one intelligent thing he said, that fidelity isn’t the *only* thing to hang a relationship on, but not because I thought he really understood it (more that he was using it to justify cheating). When I was a teenager, I used to always say “If someone cheats on me, that’s IT.” But… now, I’m not so sure. Granted, it would have to be a very important relationship to me to consider otherwise, but relationships are complex, & like you mentioned, may still be fixable if both partners are willing, & the cheating partner admits their wrong-doing & regret. (Provided, like everyone has said, the couple didn’t *agree* not to be monogamous from the start, in which case I’m not sure why one would marry, but whatever floats your boat.).

    • LorMarie says:

      But would your husband’s attitude be the same if you cheated on him? I’m not trying to be insulting or combative in any way (nor am I saying you are wrong for your choice). I just notice a difference between the way men and women handle their cheating partners.

  17. MissMary says:

    I’m polyamorous and it’s not for everyone. Some folks are just wired this way and it’s not something you just spring on a partner. The only way it works is with openness and absolute transparency, otherwise you’re just a dick screwing around and then trying to retcon your screw up with “oh, but I’m not monogamous, baby! you can’t get mad at me for that…”

    • LadySlippers says:

      I’m glad you said something about this.

      I have friends and family that are also polyamorous and understand that they are okay with that. I never would be as I am not nor do I think I ever would be. Neither is better than the other but communication, trust, and respect are required for all healthy relationships. And that’s the key — both partners need to be in agreement on how they structure their relationship. Some want monogamy others want it to be defined other ways. However, what Ethan fails here is obviously the communication, respect, and trust part because it didn’t sound as if Uma and he agreed on what constitutes the parameters of their relationship. That’s why he’s a douchebag.

      I also agree that he needs to stop justifying his crappy behaviour with ‘examples’ of biology. Everything from monogamy to polygamy is found in nature. Ethan, own your crappy behaviour and stop blaming anything and everything else. Even your daughter has the sense to call you out on it.

    • Hakura says:

      @MissMary – I *completely* agree with you, & LadySlippers. Everyone has the right to make their own choices in regards to relationships, but honesty & respect are key. Ethan is just a douchecanoe using this lifestyle as justification for it, which is just making it (being polyamorous) look bad by association, which is wrong. (& just makes him look even more immature.)

  18. Jaded says:

    The thing is, if you don’t want to be monogamous in a relationship, tell your partner. If they’re cool with it, fine, if not then the relationship won’t last. NOBODY likes being surprised by infidelity. It was a big surprise for me when the man I loved and thought loved me snuck away on holiday with another woman, and told me he was golfing with the boys. I gave him another chance but the relationship never got back on track and I bailed a few years later. Ethan behaved like a selfish little twat with Uma and apparently continues to be with his current wife.

  19. Violet says:

    Ethan is middle-aged, but looks like he’s in his 60s and sounds like a teenager. I always get the sense from him that he never takes ownership whenever he acts like a douche (which I suspect is 99% of the time).

    I very much doubt he’s ever been faithful to anyone, including his current wife. I’d love to hear him justify the millions of things we all do daily that are totally unnatural to our species, like drive when it’s in our nature to use our feet to get from A to B.

    Note that I’m not judging open relationships. As far as I’m concerned, whatever consenting adults get up to is their business. That said, it’s one thing to be in an open relationship and have sex with others, but quite another to cheat on someone who believes the relationship is monogamous.

  20. Virgilia Coriolanus says:

    Ethan, just quit talking. You’re about to blow any goodwill I had for you, since I recently saw ‘Training Day’ and thought you were cute. So just SHUT. UP. Look pretty and keep it shut.

    I’ve read almost nothing about Ethan, maybe an interview here or there. But God, even I knew that he was married to Uma, and that he cheated on her with the nanny. So he just needs to quit trying to justify himself and STFU.

  21. Merritt says:

    Says the known cheater.

    It is not okay to cheat. Full stop. Even if you have an open relationship, those typically have boundaries which are not to be crossed. If you cross them, then it is still cheating.

    Such selfishness is truly disgusting. Shooting his mouth off in interviews without a thought to how his children would feel, is reprehensible.

  22. The Original Mia says:

    Douche. Always has been. Always will be.

    As for Ryan…well, she was the woman he cheated with, so I’m pretty sure she knows his views on fidelity and monogamy. Hope she has an exit plan.

  23. Andrea says:

    He’s a delusional jerk who thinks he’s above taking responsibility for his own errors. He’s always been a jerk and he will always be a jerk. Never been a fan and never will be.

  24. lisa says:

    maybe monogamy is good for the skin or something because he is a hot mess, unless he has recently been a hobo or something

  25. Santolina says:

    Gattaca was such an amazing, unforgettable movie. Anyway, we’re creatures of both reason and instinct, and we can’t give in to every instinct if we want to live in a civilized society. Ethan seems a little hazy on that point. As other posters have said, if he can find someone who’s okay with open relationships, great, but realistically, most guys can’t deal with their women having other lovers.

  26. Leila In Wunderland says:

    To me the only things that childish about our culture’s view of monogamy and marital fidelity is the way some people will condemn strangers for cheating (or being rumored to have cheated) years after it happened, and our culture’s double standards when it comes to cheating. Oh, and the fact that some people will condemn a person for dating when their marriage isn’t over even though they already separated and filed for divorce.

  27. Ann says:

    That’s a rough looking 40 year old. Please tell me again how “science” tells us men age better than women? Haha!

  28. lunchcoma says:

    “To act all indignant, that your world has been rocked because your lover wasn’t faithful to you, is a little bit like acting rocked that your hair went grey.”

    What a tasteless thing to say. I’m willing to extend some amount of forgiveness for people who’ve been unfaithful to past partners. Humans are fallible and make mistakes. I also have no quarrel with those who decide monogamy isn’t for them. There are lots of ethical ways to arrange a relationship.

    Making a comment like this when it’s public knowledge that Uma Thurman left him because of his infidelity comes off very badly, however. He can feel she was unreasonable all he wants in private (though I’d still think he was wrong), but in public I think he owes the mother of his oldest two children a little more respect than that.

  29. Shiela says:

    Haha…This is exactly what my EX (EX! EX! EX! EX! I can’t say that enough!) boyfriend used to say. What a wiener.

  30. bailey says:

    I don’t understand people that get married, but don’t believe in monogamy. Why even bother? Marriage is not for everybody and if it isn’t, why hurt your partner and or children with cheating and lies. Rather stay single and have fun with like minded people, be honest with them before entering into a relantionship, so at least they know what they getting themselves into at the get go. I believe that monogamy is not for every single person in this world, but the honest and decent thing is to let potential partners know what risk they are taking. This dude seems to have one enormous ego, that’s for sure. I never liked his acting, too much ego even for an actor. I hope he stops running his mouth for the sake of his kids, if not for the current wife and ex’s sake. Pathetic way of making excuses for cheating, NATURE MADE ME DO IT! Yikes, don’t you have any will power, logic, common sense, restraint or compassion, Mr. Hawke??

    • Jay says:

      I don’t understand people who think that marriage is nothing but an agreement to sexual exclusivity. I thoroughly disapprove of cheating (a violation of trust in a relationship) but I do not see a problem with people who choose open marriage or invite someone into a polyamorous marriage. Any relationship requires trust and openness to be healthy. Is it incomprehensible that there are those who value the trust and support to the point they want to spend the rest of their lives together, perhaps raise children together, but don’t have a particular issue with sexual exclusivity? Seems a bit arbitrary to dictate what a person you’re not married to should value in a marriage. I don’t condone cheating (i.e. something where the partner didn’t have a say) because it is a violation of the trust, but it irritates me to no end when people keep insisting that sexual exclusivity is THE definition of marriage, because to me that’s not the reason I married my wife. I married her for so much better reasons.

  31. Frida_K says:

    He is so painfully unattractive. Young, old, faithful, lying wanderdong…whatever. He is not attractive at all.

    • bailey says:

      I couldn’t agree with you more. Definitely unattractive inside and out. Such deep wrikles for someone who is only 40. I have aunts and uncles in their 50′s that have much better, less damaged skin and only light wrinkles. And that silly looking facial hair…

  32. bailey says:

    I feel like I need to take a good long and hot shower after looking at these pics. He looks very rough for 40! Not aging well in my opinion. And most importantly, he has no class.

  33. Debbie says:

    Putting the biological compulsion to badoinkydoink aside for the moment, *I’m* irritated with his perpetual need to cuddle a figurative “I M SO SMRT –>” sign every time he speaks. “I started a theatre company at 23, published my first book at 25.” Yark. I wonder if he said “theatre” with a French accent to really hammer home that “re”.

    All that said, I still totally would. I can’t help it.

  34. Delorb says:

    Sounds like something a cheater would say. I’m sure the person he cheated on thinks differently.

  35. Daaahling says:

    I think Ethan needs to be more comfortable with his lifestyle, one that I do not care to replicate whatsoever. To each their own, but don’t knock marriage if it didn’t work out for you or people you know. Don’t knock being single if you have had a perfect marriage so far. Just live and and let live, man! Sorry, I’m just tired of people who claim they have got it allllllll figured out when they are just as lost and blind as the next person LOL

  36. TraceMik says:

    I agree with him to a certain extent. I think our society vilifies people who cheat, but these people are flawed – not “evil”. Cheating is wrong, but let’s not bring back stoning adulterers. Its just not that horrible. If a woman slept with my husband, I would be upset, but I certainly would not want to see her die for it. Nor him. Its bad, sure, but I’d move on with my life eventually.

  37. Green Eggs and Ham says:

    According to New York Observer 51% of married men and 49% of married women admitted to cheating and Ethan Hawke’s statement is the problem?

  38. RdyfrmycloseupmrDvlle says:

    He has a very European way of looking at marriage. Us Americans will never really “get” that rubric for marriage. I get where he’s coming from. My in-laws are from Europe and this philosphey is really common that cheating is not the end of the world. I mean, really, its not.
    The difference between European men and American men is a European man would NEVER leave his wife for his side piece. NEVER. While an American man THINKS he ‘Falls in love” with his side piece and decimates his family and marriage for a two bit floosy. Thats the big difference.
    Also, his soking caught up with him. Wow. He looks like dog poo.

    • bailey says:

      Sorry to disagree to with you, but I was born and raised in western Europe and moved to Canada as an adult. The idea that cheating is somehow okay in Europe is incorrect. Yes, it’s not the end of the world and it shouldn’t be. My uncle left his wife for another woman and a very good friend was in an open marriage, fell in love with one of the women and they just recently got divorced, kids are in therapy trying to cope with the split. Humans are very complex, so to boil it down to European men would NEVER leave their spouse for a side piece, but an American absolutely would is extremely simplistic. Life and human beings don’t work that way. It’s hardly a black and white issue, there is a lot of grey (every shade of grey)

  39. Blackbetty says:

    Why is he bringing this up again for? Gattaca is my favourite movie, its a shame how their relationship fell apart because of him.

  40. Julianthe says:

    To state that our “species” is not monogamous is an ignorant, egotistical, and self-serving statement. What research or report did he read to comprise this bit of knowledge? Did he mindlessly read some magazine and decide to adopt its mantra as his own? Or did he look at various research and journal articles, looking at areas of the article beyond that of the introduction and conclusion, and analyze the validity and reliability of what he read? Somehow, I doubt it. You, Mr. Hawke, are full of shit.

  41. kj says:

    … or maybe he is in an open relationship? Which wouldn’t exactly be cheating? I know several very happy people in non-monogamous marriages.

  42. shump says:

    Haha, his pseudo-intellectual bullshit was a lot easier to swallow when he was pretty.

  43. Han says:

    Wasn’t his current wife his and Umas nanny or something? He sounds exactly like Jude Law. Wants to get married and start a family but cant keep it in his pants. People like clooney and decaprio may seem immature with their revolving door of girlfriends but in some ways i have more respect for men who don’t pretend they are in it for the long run. People like Hawke and Law cause much more pain.

  44. Chloe says:

    I have no problem beliving he cheats left and right. About 10 years ago i dated a music student who had a previous relationship ruined by Ethan Hawke. Ethan had seen my ex boyfriends girlfriend at the time in a broadway production and pursued her relentlessly even though she made it clear she was in a relationship. In the end the girl gave in to Ethan, who i guess at the time was still hot and a big movie star.

  45. poppy says:

    thanks professor so evolved you’re not above contradicting yourself.
    you’ve just confirmed what many people already suspected: you’re incredibly ignorant (while believing yourself a genius) and are as sexually faithful as a stray dog.
    ITA with previous posters that he is likely a do as i say, not as i do type and would be furious and hurt if his committed partner cheated on him. he totally believes he’s THE special snowflake.
    he is dumb, vain, and disgusting.

  46. yeahright says:

    Yeah… that’s just not logical Ethan. If you dont want to make a commitment to someone then don’t make it to begin with. Perhaps monogamy is a fluid concept for some people but commitment never could be.

  47. homegrrrrl says:

    another reason to increase study requirements for young stars.
    I …can’t …believe he’s using the “biology” get out of jail free card. So…mind…numbingly…annoying!!!
    CULTURALLY america is in the minority when it comes to polygamy, but that’s mainly because wives are seen as beasts of burden in many cultures. So marital monogamy is cultural, but procreation happens within any -agreed upon- cultural construct. Ugh. His argument is pure idiocy. What he is doing is bending the rules to suit himself- entirely misogynistic and narcissistic; his penis counts, and the expectations of other’s are immature. Ugh.