Entertainment Weekly published the full Angelina Jolie cover story/Q&A online a few days ago, and I would recommend it to every Brangeloonie who loves to obsess over every little Jolie detail. It’s actually a really nice Q&A and you can tell that the interviewer (Anthony Breznican) was fan-girling like crazy over Angelina (who wouldn’t?). Angelina and Anthony actually do a fist-bump at one point. Fist-bump and an explosion. Angelina fist-bumps. This is news to me! You can read the full Q&A here (it’s lengthy), and here are some more highlights:
Malficent’s darkness: “She has a darkness. And how do you make a film about someone who curses a baby and make them relatable? It’s like the worst thing you could possibly do! But I think the script that Linda [Woolverton (The Lion King)] wrote, has quite a deep understanding. The exercise wasn’t how can we have fun with a villain? It was: what turns people evil and vile and aggressive and cruel. What could have possibly happened to her that would get her to that moment in the christening? She wasn’t invited, so she’s pissed off?”
Malficent’s elegance: “Maleficent was always so elegant. She always was in control. And to play her was difficult. I worked on my voice a lot. She’s bigger than me. She’s on a different level of performance that I have never done. She’s very still. She’s very sure of herself, but I couldn’t figure out her voice, I kept playing with these different types of British voices, making my voice darker and scarier. I was giving my kids a bath, and I started making up other stories about Maleficent — and they weren’t really paying attention to me, as children often do. You can bore them to death, until I started to mess around with this playful [sing-songy] voice.
On Elle Fanning (she plays Aurora): “I think she is magic. You can’t take your eyes off her on screen. I’d like to think that I’m a calm and sweet person. I tend to be very playful at home with my children, but in life … we have to fight our battles. Our work battles, our political battles, our personal battles, and we’re focused. So I tend to be someone who can be very private and in my space, not in any way trying to be rude, that’s just how I walk my way though life. When I’m outside my home, I can be somewhat serious. Elle, the first time we met each other, she ran across the hallway and hugged me and jumped on me and we joked later like it was like being attacked by a thousand cute gorgeous bunnies. I was just frozen. I never had someone see me like that. When she sees me, I’m like a mom, a friend, a girl, and she just wants to be another girl. She’s just full of love and happiness and cuteness and belief and sweetness and when I was her age, I was the complete polar opposite — quite dark at that age. So, it’s kind of a perfect match. It’s a part of the film that’s interesting, the struggle to deal with this light and love that she is, because Aurora is so strong in her light that it’s a difficult thing to fight. I adore her.”
The awkward horns: “It was pretty funny, because I kept on hitting my horns on things, the framing was very strange. They were actually kind of heavy. There had to be [lighter weight] ones that you could ride horses in because if you fall with something [heavy] attached to your head, that’s it — it could break your neck. There were softer horns for the fights. The harder ones were magnetic so I could actually clip them off and walk around, but then I looked like a little bear. It did not look half as cool. When they weren’t the magnetic ones, I did almost knock myself out quite a few times. It’s not just that you’re a foot taller on top, you’re also in five-inch heels so you are really big. I was out of whack for a bit. Definitely, it took me a while to become graceful with her.”
What Brad thought of Maleficent: “I don’t know! You know, I never asked him. He thinks she’s cool. I loved being Maleficent. I was quite sad to put my staff down and put my horns away because somehow, she just lives in a different world. But I did have to take my staff home to practice walking with it in my cloak, and then I would go outside and scream at the bushes to expand my voice and play with my voice. So, mom was a bit nutso for a period.”
She’s due to have one more surgery: “There’s still another surgery to have, which I haven’t yet. [Jolie is also genetically at risk for ovarian cancer, which is what took her mother’s life at age 56] I’ll, you know, I’ll get advice from all these wonderful people who I’ve been talking to, to get through that next stage.”
Angelina was also asked about her haters and Hater Culture in general, and she gave a lengthy and interesting answer. She basically said that she doesn’t pay attention to any of it (I don’t believe that) but that if you mean well and your “choices come from an honest place,” everything will be fine in the end. Then she says that there’s real hate and inhumanity in the world that she sees all the time and she basically doesn’t have time for all of this high school BS.
Does anyone else love the idea of Angelina bringing Maleficent’s staff home so she could practice walking with it while doing that crazy voice? Also: Elle Fanning is now a Jolie-Pitt, basically. Angelina approves! Elle “jumped on me and we joked later like it was like being attacked by a thousand cute gorgeous bunnies.” That’s so funny.
Photos courtesy of EW/Disney.
*sigh of joy*
She’s so lovely, and on so many levels, too.
🙂
+1000.
Also, love that last pic with the green smoke. Can’t wait to see this movie (and neither can my family).
I loved the interview.
I don’t get why her answer about additional surgery is making the news again. She already said all of this in her Oped. she stated that she had started the process with her breast because that was the greatest risk and that she would be doing the other surgery at a later date. I have seen comments acting like this is the first time she said this.
anyway I think a new trailer is going to be released today. So all is good.
and she is right; some people never ever outgrow High School. They take it into their adult lives. I like that she does her thing. Let the haters or whatever talk. She keeps moving and doesn’t alter her steps.
Best FU to all of them.
Agreed with the HS mentality.
Has anyone seen the Craig Ferguson standup about the triangle?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZk3hM8BoyM
At about 1:20 or so, it gets good.
“What a bitch! With her six children, 3 of which from war torn countries. What a bitch. Angeline Jolie who donated 10Mil to charity. What a bitch! Angelina Jolie the UN ambassador to Children.”
I don’t understand how anyone can hate someone who gives so much of themselves to other people. You don’t have to like Angelina, you don’t have to agree with the ‘triangle’ or whatever. But you can’t say she’s not a good person.
I love his facial expressions throughout the whole thing…funny.
I knew I loved Craig Ferguson for good reason.
He was fantastic. I just happened to watch this standup show on Netflix last night, and could get over the triangle stuff. It was perfect.
Hahaha omg so funny.
I’ve also struggled with the notion of people hating someone who is trying to do so much good… I’ve come to believe that we should all try to do as much good as we can while we’re here and I think she exemplifies that. She has truly done great things with her fame. Kudos to her. Most celebrities can’t be bothered much beyond Cabo and designer bags.
Whenever a celeb claims they ignore the gossip and HW backbiting, as a rule I roll my eyes. Angie I believe. She’s seen too much hardcore ugly shit to waste time on the petty BS. If a Palestinian refuge camp doesn’t put things in perspective, nothing will.
So True
I don’t get it either. Angelina is saying no more, and no less about her next procedure than she did almost a year ago in her op-ed. The only thing I can surmise is, some trash mag editors and gossip blog traffic controllers realize that any additional negative news that befalls Angelina gets high traffic among the raging still mad cow populace in their ‘Team Aniston’ tshirts, so that’s what they go with to draw them in.
Unlike so many celebs who claim not to engage/care about criticism/hate, Angelina legitimately seems to have SO much going on, so I actually buy that she doesn’t pay attention! She doesn’t even have a publicist, right?
I love Angelina and I buy that she doesn’t pay attention for the most part, but Geyser basically served as her publicist. All stars pretty much have someone who does PR work, even if they don’t have an official publicist.
Again, she has no PR rep or agency.
She has signed with one for the first time in a long time, in preparation for Unbroken – so it’s more for her film’s upcoming publicity. It was announced last year that Angelina’s ‘Unbroken,’ was signing with so and so.
Also, I don’t think Jolie’s manager’s name is ‘Geyser,’ it’s Geyer Kosinsky I believe, and I also don’t know how involved he still is with Angelina’s career, but whatever – there’s a reason why people have job titles in H’wood, and it’s because they do THAT particular job, and not another secret one on the side. Secret jobs do not pay bills and they do not attract more clientele.
If Geyer was doing the job of a PR flack/publicist which entails speaking to magazines on a client’s behalf and discounting tabloid stories on the hour almost as fast as they may plant them (see Jennifer Aniston’s longtime PR flack Stephen Huvane) – then they want to be known for that, in order to attract other clientele.
Occasionally, because managers are often heavily involved in production they end up being producers. See Erwin Stoff who I believe used to be Keanu Reeves and Don Johnson’s manager, and now is producing. Geyer is like that. Geyer is NOT like, Stephen Huvane or CAA.
Everyone knows Angelina (nor Brad, now) give one whit about who Is saying what. – therefore a PR flack need not apply.
A manager however is in the business of finding jobs that will appeal to their client – they work with studios, casting, producers etc., they don’t call up People Magazine and discuss what their clients did over an intimate candlelight dinner at the Chateau because they want the story to be their client is no longer sad and alone.
You saying a manager does the job of a PR guy, makes as much sense, as if you said a star’s dentist doubled as their secret PR agent.
The main point of PUBLICITY is to do it often, and well, and to build/create an image, PR flacks also discount what could be damaging.
Jolie realized early on that her life doesn’t need explaining, and she doesn’t listen to, talk about or wallow in lies. She tries to rise above, and focus on what matters and she likes the people who surround her to do so as well. Hence no need for a PR flack/agency.
You can keep implying that which isn’t true, but the fact is, she doesn’t need one, and doesn’t want one, For Unbroken, I think it probably was a studio recommended move, since their is such bullshite about Angelina out there, that sometimes festers because she doesn’t give a shite.
I don’t doubt that she doesn’t at least *know* about what’s being said about her..coughchelseahandlercough…but do I think she pays attention to it, other than for a brief second? No. I can’t remember the last time she was addressing rumors about herself or her family.
oops, misplaced my post…it’s down one. lol
I don’t fully buy that Angie doesn’t pay attention to the negative things that have been said about her. I think she is aware of it and chooses not to give it wings by responding to it. Let’s not forget that Angie used to be an open book and put much of her personal life out in the open. In her later years Angie learned how to do what we tell other celebs to do and that’s STFU. She stopped talking about her personal life. She was fully aware of the backlash she was getting when she first got with Brad and it’s easy for us to say Angie didn’t give a _uck but I think she did. She’s not made of iron, she’s human and has feelings which can be hurt. I think she gradually started that transition from open book to closed book after the adoption of Maddox.
I’m totally with her about the some people not growing out of HS, it’s been proven on this site.
Totally agree. I think that she knows, but just doesn’t address it.
Yeah, I’m on board with the she probably hears bits here and there, but doesn’t seek the info out theory, I’ve fallen out with my mother and sisters, I hear things they said about me but I don’t GAF some people are like that, some people would think I’m cold but why expend energy and stress on people that don’t matter to you.
Also, it’s the best way to deal with people like Chelsea Handler, or we’d never get her to STFU if Angelina responded, but I honestly think it doesn’t bother her what someone like Chelsea has to say about her.
Yep. In her older interviews she often talks about how people took her relationships with women and changed it into something else, something ugly. The backlash with her brother, the blood vial, her 2nd divorce. She came across as caring very much about what other people thought of her and how they misconstrued her quotes about her personal life. She came across as somebody who was trying to be open and honest and being hurt when people didn’t take it at face value. The fact that she was so dark during her teens and early 20s drives that point further as she always seemed more sensitive than ‘bad’.
She and Pitt also made an effort into not appearing together (professional events) and even though her stans claim they dated after Pitt separated, Jolie herself was still saying in June 2005 that she was seeing men in hotels and that she was single. And let’s not forget Jolie smiling when she and Pitt’s mom were photographed arm in arm after years of gossip about Jane hating Jolie.
She knows alright, she learned to turn it into a performance rather than let it overtake her emotions like it did in the past. She knows about what to care for now: her family and her humanitarian work. She grew up.
I agree that it started with Maddox, definitely.
I agree with this assessment, though I think she still does talk about her personal life now, it’s just a different kind of life than she used to have.
I think that’s the attitude many celebs take when they reach a certain level of fame, I’ve heard many of them say as much – they just can’t respond to the negativity, don’t read stuff about themselves online, just try to go on about their lives and ignore it as best they can. Otherwise you’d go crazy.
That’s a lovely post Artemis. Very thought-provoking. I think you’re right that she was more overly sensitive than ‘bad’. Some very sensitive people look for coping mechanisms that other people may not understand.
@Artemis, who wrote: “She and Pitt also made an effort into not appearing together (professional events) and even though her stans claim they dated after Pitt separated, Jolie herself was still saying in June 2005 that she was seeing men in hotels and that she was single.”
Really? I missed one. Do you remember in what interview/magazine Angie said that? I’m truly curious, because–as you said–I was totally convinced Brad and Angie were a couple from the time they began re-shoots in April/May 2005. I would love to read/watch whatever interview in which she said that.
In the VF 2005 interview she clearly states she was talking about a guy she used to date .A guy she started dating three years after she initially met him.Also the VF interview was conducted in February or March. When she did the interview she was not longer meeting that guy in hotels.
@ Emma
It’s Vanity Fair 2005 and the narrative is that she’s a single mom juggling it all while trying to find love: ‘Sex and the Single Mom’
– “It sounds like you’re lucky,” I say. “You have a regular setup.” She has said she has two different “lovers.”
“It takes a long time to create a situation like I have,” she says. “I was always not wanting to take them to meet my kid. A few months into it with one he started to ask about can he spend time with Mad or get to know Mad”—Maddox, that is.
– She calls the rumours of MAMS ‘bullshit’
– She explains what she looks for in a man
– she shares a story about a married man she had lunch or diner with it and how she couldn’t continue with the meal or something
– When the interviewer suggests Pitt and JA might get back, she responds with a ‘maybe’
– Jolie says she send word to Pitt and JA through her lawyer that she never said she ‘was a shoulder to cry on for Brad’ (again confirmation that she isn’t unaware of rumours)
Of course they were dating before, they adopted together and she got pregnant during the summer, things like that don’t happen overnight. Plus she was spending her free time with him (with the flying lessons and trip to Africa).
@Sal
I was looking into personality types (INFJ etc) and came across Angelina’s on a forum. Watching her interviews pre-Maddox, I do feel like she was very sensitive. She wanted to ‘feel’ and ‘connect’ with the world a lot and couldn’t find a way to do it properly, without hurting herself or feeling neurotic about it when other people didn’t understand her methods.
@Kim
I thought it was two guys, I had the feeling it was still going on. They can read for themselves and figure it out.
They did mention JA filed for divorce in March so the interview was conducted before then I suppose.
@Artemis, who wrote: “Of course they were dating before, they adopted together and she got pregnant during the summer, things like that don’t happen overnight. Plus she was spending her free time with him (with the flying lessons and trip to Africa).”
Why do people think Angie got pregnant with Shiloh over the summer of 2005? I read that here and elsewhere all the time. The child was born on May 27, 2006 and Angie’s original due date was June 3, 2006. She had a cesarean with Shiloh for the same hypertension reason she had the twins early by c-section.
http://www.babyrazzi.com/206/05/27/angelina-having-c-section-today/
The ‘earliest’ Angie could have conceived is September 2005.
@Kim1 …
I agree with you in it sounding like it was an interview done before the shite hit the fan in April 2005.
V4real, I happen to believe Angelina when she says she’s not hurt by what people that she doesn’t even know, have to say. She says she only gets hurt if it affects people she knows and cares about. On her ITAS she used the example of her brother wanting to protect her when the lies/jokes started about them making out at the Oscars – Angie said for a time, he didn’t want his presence, which he felt would start the silly talk and mess with her rep, so he deliberately distanced himself when he knew there were events etc., That is what hurt her, his reaction to it . I think for a lot of women this is an alien notion because for many of us, it’s kind of an ingrained characteristic to deeply care what other people think and say (why we’re so susceptible to bullying, and also so much the instigators behind it), but not every woman gives a shiite what another woman, that’s a complete stranger has to say about them.
@Lawsy So are you saying Angie is made of iron without feelings. Because what I said was that she’s human and has feelings that can be hurt. Note that I didn’t say she was particularly hurt by a specific topic. I said she is a woman who can experience hurt, like all humans.
My main point was to say that Angie doesn’t or has never given a crap what people have said about her to me is saying that this woman doesn’t feel.
She might not care much now but at one point she did, hence one of the reasons she stopped being an open book. Also to be a bit affected by what some people may think or have said about you, doesn’t mean you wallow in it. Some people have the strength to feel a certain way for a moment and then press on.
V4real, where are you getting that I said Angelina is ‘made of iron and without feelings?’ I said no such thing. Either you’re not comprehending or your deliberately misconstruing. I thought I was clear: Angelina has said she doesn’t care or get hurt by what strangers say about her. Period.
I think this insistence some women have about Angie feeling the stings and barbs of meangirls, is simply the utter frustration some haters have that she doesn’t. lol
Also, what’s this about Angelina not being an ‘open book,’ anymore? I would tend to disagree, only because I’ve borne witness on message boards to women freaking out over what they think is TMI about her sex life with Brad, her pregnancies, etc. Angelina shares as much about her life now, as she did when she was with Thornton or Miller, or when she was cutting. It’s just that now, what she’s doing is flying to a war crimes tribunal and talking about it, or she’s talking about pregnancy sex, rather than cutting or drugs. Because DUH, she’s 38 and a Mom and represents the UN and not 19 and cutting herself. Though I still think she’d give you some TMI about Brad if she was asked. lol
I swear there’s the weirdest phenom that exists with how some people view Angelina, everyone else is expected to change and grow up, and Angelina is not allowed to, but if she does, it’s not a true evolution and maturation, it’s just her hiding her dark side. I haven’t seen this shutting down of her open=bookedness, lol – certainly if in fact you could definitively prove it’s happened, I doubt it would be, as you’re suggesting because she was burned and hurt, but simply because of her responsibilities as a UN envoy and CFR and MOM….it makes sense she might be more circumspect because of that…but again, a lot of it depends on who’s asking the questions…Jolie got personal salacious questions when she herself was seen as a ‘wild child,’ and you got the answers that befit her at that time. Now, you get different answers but they aren’t any less OPEN and real, it’s just a different life. I think she’d still be as open and honest as she was but on different topics – just because that’s who she is.
@Lawsy, who wrote: ” I think this insistence some women have about Angie feeling the stings and barbs of meangirls, is simply the utter frustration some haters have that she doesn’t. lol”
LOL!! It’s because they feel she ‘should’ be perpetually shamed, shunned, and punished for what she did to ‘sweet-innocent–all natural-girl next door’ Jennifer Aniston. Angelina Jolie is a home-wrecker, a succubus who steals men from other women, she wears a scarlet letter on her bosom and bears the weight of her shame. 🙂
I am in awe of what you’ve so eloquently written. You’ve nailed it beautifully! Now the claims will come that we’re ‘LOONIE’ because we’re too over-invested in Angelina Jolie.
@Lawsy you need to breathe. If you’re directing your frustration at me it’s not warranted. My statement wasn’t meant in a mean way at all. If you have read the comments that followed mine you would see that the posters were in agreement that they believe Angie knows some of the things that are said about her. Read @Artemis comment. She goes on to explain where she read or saw an interview with Angie where she said that some things do hurt her. I never said that you said Angie was made of iron, it was a question. I’m sure you understood that but it’s easier for you to start an argument just for argument sakes.
I’ve been a fan of Angie for probably longer than most of the defenders of hers on this site. Do I crack jokes about her at times, yes I do. I also do it with other celebs I adore and I don’t go all bat shit crazy when someone makes a negative comment about her. Angie just mentioned some things being so HS and I think all this BS with women doing the whole Aniston v/s Jolie, Pittstans and Loonies is HS crap. And yes @Emma some people are too invested in Jolie’s life which would probably scare the crap out of her.
I agree, Karen. Plus, as she said, she has seen real hate and unspeakable evil in the world. I believe it when she says she can’t be bothered with ‘hater’ nonsense on the internet. She has a healthy perspective of what is important in life.
Totally agree. I guess when you have been to a refugee camp and seen the kind of sadness and desperation that she has seen caused by hatred and war, I guess dealing with the kind of drivel spewed by Chelsea Handler and her ilk just seems insignificant in comparison.
I agree Soulsister, plus it just gets tiring after a while. Honestly, as you get older, even as I get older–I just ignore all that stuff, and ignore the people who say it…if they can’t say it to my face, then I have nothing to do with them.
You’re right- she’s never had a publicist and said very early in her career that she prefers to speak for herself. Brad got rid of his PR shortly after Shiloh was born- he said that his PR lady was just spending all her time denying lies and it wasn’t fair to her. Both Brad & Angie continue to be very popular and successful without PR and that is VERY threatening to the PR establishment- what if more stars decided to speak for themselves?! The fact that Brad & Angie don’t spend millions a year on liars and spin doctors is yet another reason to admire them- they find much better use for their money.
+1. Your comment is spot-on.
+10,000,000
She may not have a publicist on the record but thats probably part of the cunning. Angie is a very intelligent woman. She understood very quickly that publicists are limited in their imagination and that most people can see through their nonsense. So she took over. She is usually very subtle with it but she does it.
Some choice examples; she had people issuing denials over her not getting along with Clooney. If I recall correctly those coincided with Clooneys own official statement. Or when she debuted the engagement ring with a lovely but awfully convenient family pic at the museum, followed by a not so subtle photo op at some hotel following a “business meeting” and of course the jeweler to the stars with a sudden case of mouth diarrhea.
She creates the illusion that she has no interest in her likability and that has the effect of boosting her likability because it makes us believe that she is not vain. We do know from the serious pieces that have actually been written on this that she is working behind the scenes, smartly. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/21/business/media/21angelina.html?pagewanted=all AND http://www.forbes.com/sites/dorieclark/2012/01/20/branding-lessons-from-angelina-jolie/
Here we go again, Angelina is cunning because she is a better communicator than the so called professionals ie journalists.
The New York Times article was debunked by the New York Times itself, the journalist who wrote it used US Weekly as his source.When you have rely on US Weekly for the truth, you are in big trouble.
The Forbes article is just using certain facts to fit a made up theory, anyone can say after something has happened, this is the reason why.
I can say that Forbes are looking for online hits, so they wrote a spurious article on a popular person.
Angelina,if I have my facts right grew up in a campaigning household, her mother took her first to Washington. As a little girl at school along with other children she campaigned to save a teacher’s job.
Angelina did not change, she adapted to the changes in her life as all people do.
As she said (paraphrasing)”I covered up my tattoos and went to Washington”.
She has said before that they don’t listen to the noise, but if there is something serious they deal with it. Hence suing The News of the World,newspaper and Dr.Drew having to do a public apology.
The press tried to made trouble between her and Clooney,because they wanted to diminish her humanitarian achievements, because of course only Clooney ‘s humanitarian efforts mean anything!
Yet who is it that is co-chairing an international conference with the world’s Foreign Secretaries?
Angelina is a professional woman who has learnt how to communicate professionally without having others twist her words to their own meaning.
Interesting but that doesn’t make her a bad person. I’m sure a lot of celebs try to control what is released in the media about them and some play a hand in the information that is released. IMO all high profile celebs are vain in some way or the other Angie included. I wouldn’t hate Angie b/c of that and that’s not good enough reason to threaten someone’s family.
I believe she does know some of the gossip that is going on about her but chooses to not feed into it with responses. She chooses to fly above all the drama by not commenting on it much, if at all publicly. This is definetely her taking the high road which most likely infuriates people like Handler even more.
So, Angelina is soooo worried about people thinking she hates George Clooney, but doesn’t care that the Enquirer says Shiloh isn’t Brad’s the day after she gives birth? She’s soooo upset over a story about Clooney, she takes her flak jacket off in Iraq, leaves the refugees and flies back home to subversively deny it thru her cunning PR moves, but 101 cheating rumors, including ones of her scrwing her dialect coach on rubber sheets and having 3somes with Brad, she’ll let go unchallenged?? I mean, COME ON. Is your need to demonize this woman so powerful you’ve lost all common sense?
That said, she is highly intellifent. Dumb azz Handler has in effect proven a helluva marketing tool for Maleficent for going on the last 3-4 years, with all this, ‘Angelina’s an EVIL DEMON, who doesn’t get along with other women,’ talk. (hello, this is the plot for Maleficent, you brain dead tool Chelsea Handler! lol) Even IF Angelina Jolie knows of her existence, why would she care when every times she opens her mouth she’s selling more tix to Maleficent.
The NYT article was debunked and retracted by the Editor of the paper them self. Unfortunately that doesn’t seem to show up as much in Google…..
I believe she doesnt pay attention to the haters online.Most people are cowards who would never confront her with their hateful comments.BTW one of the haters tweeted Brad’s sister Julie’s saying AJ made Brad ugly and they hope AJ gets cancer and burns in Hell .So of course she is aware of the death wishes, threats, tabloid lies but chooses not to dwell on that poison.
some people have way to much time on their hands.
And a little too much crazy.
Ugh. I can’t even with the Twitter assholes. I mean…who even thinks shit like that let alone types it out for the whole world to see. (I know, I know, a lot of people apparently.)
Brad’s sister and nieces NEVER engage or respond to that crap.They always take the high road.Good thing I don’t have a famous family member because I would be cursing people out on social media.
Wow some people are just…….don’t even know what to say! But that’s terrible on all levels!
And there shall, as always, be silence from the ones who ironically, call US ‘loons’ – wtf? Strange world when a group can start up a vendetta against someone based on tabloid stories, wish death to children and to their mother, and they somehow *not* loons? Aren’t THEY the original loons? How is defending a human being under onslaught, somehow more ‘loonie’ than wishing death on children and their mother based on tabloids? Um, just WHO is it, that is the loons???? And if you point out that she does good, then that apparently means that you think she is a saint and ‘worship’ her, despite myself never having come across even one Brangelina supporter who ‘worships’ them. Hey, at least we’re not almost putting her name down as a referee for a job cough,snicker,side-eyetocertaincrackpotidolatorsofasitcomactress. Loonie loony luny tunes! rme smdh Just because you point out she does good things. Unbelievable and totally distorted.
Notice how the apologists of a certain she who will not be named and the so-called (pft, yeah right) ‘neutral’ posters who talk about ‘Brangeloonies’ and the ‘crazy’ of the fans never and I mean NEVER comment on tweets or things like that? They’re strangely silent. Funny how someone who says something in *defence* of a celeb under siege prompts so much outrage, but not the truly crazy, insane, psychotic and mentally ill comments by others that *precede* the defence? If people standing up for the underdog and a celeb being bullied, smeared and attacked is ‘crazy’, pray tell what do these ‘neutral’ (albeit passive-aggressives under cover) posters think of tweets like that? Is THAT ‘sane’? Is that your definition of *not* crazy?? The silence will, as always, be deafening on the true crazy and human depravity. Its a world gone mad.
@Sal …
I’m sending you all kinds of crazy Girl-love right now. 🙂
Personally, I think anyone who’s over-invested in the life of a celebrity is a loon.
It’s nice to admire someone but some people need to just take a deep breath and relax a bit because ultimately there are much, MUCH bigger problems in the world than cowardly internet posters hating on rich strangers.
Sal, who in the world are you talking about? What person would defend a death wish? I don’t think the president of the Jen hen group would defend a cancer wish. In fact people that say those things are trolls. They post things like that to get a reaction. They do it to all celebrities.
Also I hate to break it to you, but neither Angie or Jen are underdogs suffering from bullying. They are both fabulously wealthy women that live charmed lives. They probably laugh at their haters. Furthermore, you don’t know Angie. She doesn’t need your assistance to defend her from internet nonsense. I doubt she cares about posters on here or Twitter.
I agree with you 100% kitten that a loon is anyone that is so personally invested and obsessed with a celebrity they’ve never met.
Thanks Emma, you too! 🙂 As to TOK and JessMa, their responses are exactly what I predicted. Avoidance.
Avoiding what? Do I have to spoon feed you? It is awful that someone would wish her cancer and say her kids should be orphans. I am not sure any normal person could defend statements such as those. Those sentiments are revolting. With that being said, people that say stuff like that to her and others are trolls. You reward them by giving a big reaction. That is why you shouldn’t feed the trolls.
Yes, I think she’s aware that not all of the story that the tabloids put out there favor her and there are always those who hates her anyway for any kind of reason. And like you said, she chooses not to pay attention much on it. She’s in the business for so long that I would say one would develop a mechanism to to deal with so much scrutiny.
Also—-maybe I’m wrong, though—-I think one time she said that she’s not reading tabloids because sometimes they put a story out about people that she knows and she feels like it’s not right to read about it out of loyalty.
Putting it bluntly, the haters are Aniston fans who blame Angelina for the breakdown of Brad and Aniston’s marriage (even though it was Brad who decided to end his marriage and then subsequently pursued a relationship with Angelina). However their level of hatred towards Angelina and some of the truly vile things that they say about her and her children ( there is a poster on JJ who said that they hope her bio children have inherited the BRAC1 gene and get cancer) has always been so out of proportion to what happened.
I would really like to get to the heart of why Aniston’s fans have taken the events of what happened so personally that they could wish death on another fun being.
Agreed. I’ve always thought there could be a psychological study, even thesis, on the psychological impact of idols like Jennifer Aniston. How she became such an idol and God to so many vulnerable people, the power she wields, witting or unwitting. I call it Anistontown or Aniston Phenonemon (sp). I mean, we’ve all seen what happened in Jonestown. It could be a study into pop psychology. How people can brainwash or manipulate people en mass. What drives a person to become so overwhelmed with personal attachment and idolatory to a public *image* that they will take leave of their senses, wish children be raped, children and mother to die of anal cancer, aids etc. There really should be a feasibility taskforce study into doing a psychological study. I too, would really like to know (or maybe not, lol) how idolising and worshipping a sitcom star affects people and makes them take that character/public image as real and as though this woman is a Goddess. And make no mistake, I’ve had Aniston fans or truly, literally, think Aniston is a saint and can do no wrong (perhaps we should start referring to Aniston as St Aniston?). So many of her fans have told me they think Aniston would never do any bad thing – ever. How can one woman cause so many people to turn into such hateful, ugly, evil-hearted parodies of humanity? I’ve said it time and time again, there really should be a thesis on the effect this woman has on others.
Absolutely disgusting to target people who had no part in anything that happened nearly TEN years ago.
I think they’re just sick mentally, to be obsessed with someone that long they’ve got to be. I had a masssive huge crush on Jensen Ackles when he started Supernatural but that was ten years ago and I grew out of it, to still be as obsessed is just crazy, and Angelina’s fans are called Loons smh.
@Soulsister, who wrote: “Putting it bluntly, the haters are Aniston fans who blame Angelina for the breakdown of Brad and Aniston’s marriage (even though it was Brad who decided to end his marriage and then subsequently pursued a relationship with Angelina).”
Agreed. There are still Jen-Hens writing about how Brad will (still) someday come to his senses and return to Jen. If ‘that’ isn’t delusional and ‘Loonie,’ I don’t know what is.
I was neutral about Aniston prior to her split with Brad; she just appeared to me to be a vapid airhead who cared about nothing but her hair and her body; but the insanely vicious attacks against Angie and her children by Aniston’s fans turned me totally against her. It may be unfair to Aniston, but you have to ask yourself, what kind of celebrity attracts fans like that?
It’s simple. Aniston represents every woman to some. Her image wears a lot of hats: average, run of the mill, dumped, divorced, heartbroken, insecure, white, blonde-ish, former ethnic girl w/ a big nose beat down by her Mom, a bit neurotic. She’s what a LOT of women wake up and see in the mirror.
Angelina is definitely not. lol
By that I mean, for going on two decades now, women of a certain age have looked at Jennifer Aniston, and said one thing: ‘Gee whiz, that (_____) (<– btw, fill in blank w/ haircut, those jeans, that dress, etc.) looks great on her…I know if I wear it, I'll look JUST AS GOOD and guess what? THEY WERE RIGHT. She is relatable. She is average, and with the right hair cut, she can be…okay attractive. ..as can we all.
When Brad got with her, it was a win for average girls everywhere. It was as if Rachel Green got Brad Pitt instead of David Schwimmer…and she did.
So when it went Kaput, for those women who had looked to Aniston as their own personal hair guru or style guide, blaming Brad and his free will, was out of the question. They couldn't live with the fact/notion that Brad CHOSE to leave them, oops, I mean Aniston.
Because Dear Gah, what would THAT mean??? So, no…Brad had to be LURED away by a demon voodoo woman against his will (I kid you not, I recall stories about Angie doing voodoo to get Brad away from Aniston, hahahaha)
Funny part is, I used to be on Aniston’s side, pre split when they first got together. It was her or Paltrow, whaddya want? LOL Paltrow came off as a snobby movie star who looked down at the average TV girl, that Brad had hooked up with on the rebound from her. So I had a small investment on seeing Brad have a happy life. That changed fast, after a few Aniston interviews that I read, she seemed to be oversensitive to the status she occupied, that people saw her as the lucky one, the less pretty one, the one who paled next to that Grace Kelly wannbe Oscar winner….so in defense she always seemed to downplay and jokingly denigrate Brad, and I said then, 'hmmm, that's not the way you make a happy marriage grrrl.' When she finally won an award after like 8 years of friends, and bringing 'Brad Pitt' to all the TV award shows, and then didn't thank him…I was like, yeeup…I give it two years tops. They folded like a year and a half later, and for much of that Brad was over in Malta filming Troy (Aniston famously told some women's rag that she was having the time of her life separated, and that she wouldn't be visiting).
@Lawsy
That’s what I’ve never understood. Because until I actually started reading their old interviews for myself, I was under the impression that Brad and Jennifer, publicly at the very least, were fine and happy (which is why I totally side eyed Brad and Angelina in the beginning)…but reading those quotes about their own marriage–where they (Brad said this in an interview) that their marriage was a merger and as soon as they stopped getting something out of it, then they’d separate. This was like two years into the marriage. Jennifer visited Brad ONCE in an eight month shoot halfway across the world, and then told a reporter that she liked having the house to herself, liked that Brad wasn’t there.
My eyes were like 0_0…because when I first started reading gossip, on this site, all I heard was that Brad and Jennifer were SO in love until Angelina stole him, etc. I seriously, just can’t believe that no one saw that split coming. They hadn’t even lived together for nearly two years before they split–Brad filmed ‘Troy’, then he split his time between Ocean’s 12 and Mr and Mrs. Smith…..I’m seriously wondering why anyone was surprised? I mean, I don’t give a crap if they were the ‘Golden Couple’–there were obvious cracks in that marriage two years in….
@Lawsy thank you for saying this! I’ve been saying this for years. Aniston is the perfect average and I think a lot of average women relate to her. Angelina is in no way average and so I think a lot of Aniston fans feel they can cast her as a villain. It’s the age old Betty vs Veronica game. Btw I have been reading this site and enjoying the comments for some time now and your comment inspire me to join the fray lol.
Julie Pitt Neal used to have a website where she talked about adoption and posted photos of her two beautiful Ethiopian boys. Some denizens of Female First found and trashed it with all kinds of racist comments about the children. Julie had to take the website down.
That’s disgusting and sad.
I understand if people aren’t big fans of her, but for the life of me I cannot understand how anyone can dislike her, let alone hate her. I honestly don’t. She is completely and totally innocuous, she’s never hurt anybody and all she does is live her life and do good for others. Not liking her as an actress is one thing. But to dislike her or hate her as a person? I honestly don’t see or understand how anyone could have a reason to dislike her, let alone hate. I just completely don’t get it. And I’m glad I don’t , because what would that say about me if I did?
Edit: for some reason my comment in reply to Kim1 #4 wouldn’t go through, yet there was nothing wrong with it, so I’ll add it here.
*See, I just cannot understand ‘people’ and I use that term lightly, who say things like that ie burn in hell. The irony is that if you check their profiles, they’re often the ones quoting scripture and ‘liking’ or forwarding God stuff. Don’t they see the irony of what they’re doing? Do they honestly not see it? By wishing so much hatred and evil against another living person that has never had a bad word or action against anyone else, that the person who tweets/wishes that stuff is the one who will have a lot and I mean a lot of explaining to do when THEY meet their maker. I’d lay odds, money, and my home that the one with so much hate and evil in their heart that is making those death wishes are the ones who will be burning in hell. The irony is, they don’t see themselves as they are.
That kind of hate comes from a mental sick. Look at Kim’s comment above. Why all the hate?.. because a man and woman got a divorce. Seriously that is what this is about. I can get not wanting to see her films and not support her projects. I do that with the people I don’t like. but Stalking someone’s family on Social Media and wishing death on them and their children. Where the hell does that come from. If you tell me it is because a man and woman divorced. And it was not your divorce. That is mental and beyond SICK.
And people talking about her past; drug use or BBT and kissing her husband.. that is where they go to justify their hate.. but I have seen many celebs with way more controversial past don’t get death threats. It is just unreal. Some of these people need mental help; but they think their over the top and cross the line hate is justified for some insane reason.
@Lisa2 ditto to everything you said.
They call her a homewrecker, a slut, a wh*re, an evil manipulative bitch wish her death and wish that her kids be raped!So much more! Why simply because is with Brad Pitt I sometimes wonder why people obsess over that divorce when it didn’t happen to them personally. I agree with you that its mental.
I could be wrong, but I think a lot of it simply boils down to Aniston being the proverbial “relatable” girl next door archetype, and Jolie being the undeniably gorgeous (evil) woman. So it’s a lot of insecurity, jealousy and bitterness being projected onto two very public platforms. I mean it’s almost textbook.
@Mimif, who wrote: “I could be wrong, but I think a lot of it simply boils down to Aniston being the proverbial “relatable” girl next door archetype, and Jolie being the undeniably gorgeous (evil) woman. So it’s a lot of insecurity, jealousy and bitterness being projected onto two very public platforms. I mean it’s almost textbook.”
‘THIS’ to the 10th power!
@Andrea1: They’ve expanded their animus to include Jolie’s fans. I’ve read several posts that accused all Jolie’s fans of being man-stealing homewreckers. I had to laugh out loud.
@Janet who said……. I’ve read several posts that accused all Jolie’s fans of being man-stealing homewreckers. I had to laugh out loud
Ha! So they feel we are her fans because we must also be man stealing homewrecker like angie(in their words) then are more silly than I ever thought! 🙂
@Sal, I don’t dislike her, or hate her, I just find her perplexing. Curious. It is clear she has had a troubled life. She has talked about her fascination with knives and cutting. Although she states she isn’t effected by what people think, she has reinvented her life story several times in various articles throughout her life. It seems that although she appears strong, there is a part of her that is very influenced by her partners at the time. Pitt has been a very stabilizing force in her life.
I feel for that vulnerability in her. The side that she denies exists. Yet, it has been witnessed. She has fought many demons. I would love to know what goes on in her mind and her coping mechanisms. They must be fascinating.
She maybe doesn’t want to be so open and talk about her demons publicly in case her children read it, all those interviews were before her children arrived and I don’t think she planned on having children when she was younger, so didn’t think about how it would impact them later on in life.
I agree she had a troubled life and was a troubled teenager (who wasn’t, in some ways? Oh God, if only I had a time machine, lol I was never wild like her but I made a fool out of myself a couple of times). I’m not sure what you mean by reinventing her life story. Angelina has never covered up her past. Or denied any of it. She’s changed, grown up. Gotten older and wiser. As I would hope we all do. At 37 years of age, I’m not the same person I was as a teen or in my 20s. But even now, she doesn’t pretend that part of her life didn’t exist. She has reinvented herself, I suppose, as we all do as we age. But that doesn’t equate to her denying her past or pretending it didn’t happen or pretending to be something she isn’t. She is simply living in the here and now rather than rehashing 15 years ago.
One other thought I just had, I don’t think she has tried to pretend she isn’t vulnerable. I remember her commenting in an interview about being on the floor of the bathroom crying (I forget over what, I think research for ITLOBAH movie or something), and I thought it was interesting she would share that with us.
And maybe she doesn’t want to talk about her so-called demons because the press will twist and distort what she has to say. Also I don’t think that she reinvented herself, I just think that she came to a realization that while the issues that she was dealing with were important, that there were people in the world that were dealing with life and death issues and I just think that this helped her put what she was dealing with into perspective.
One of the many problems that I have with how people perceive Angie, is that fact that they think that because she experimented with drugs and self harmed, then that somehow makes her a bad person. But millions of people do both of those things as well, and it’s just part of dealing with pain from life experiences but also learning about yourself, who your are and your limits and boundaries.
@Soulsisters I agree with you completely
Now Sal, you of all people should know why AJ is hated; she destroyed the happiest and most successful marriage in the history of Hollywood. Only an evil maniacal witch could have done that to America’s sweetheart! For shame AJ, for shame!
Some Aniston partisans are going to read that and actually believe it. 😆
I always look forward to read her interviews. She has interesting to say always. She can easily express herself very well. Very witty too. Besides her amazing beauty & appeal, she is clearly has something between her ears UNLIKE most celebrities. Love her so much. She is well loved here in my country. She is admired & respected by many especially by local celebrities & prominent personalities as well.
Thanks Neer,I don’t get it when people complain about how much she’s hated,you need to see how loved and respected she is over here!it’s crazy!everyone loves her.I guess Americans rely a little too much on their tabloids,thank God we don’t have them,no one’s stupid enough to waste their hard earned money on them.
I’VE read the interview three times,it’s really iinteresting.
I love what she said about the haters. Also, you should have included what she said about 50 Shades! That was hilarious––––I think that’s the only time I’ve ever read an Angelina interview where she became downright flustered. She’s a beautiful, interesting and complex woman. She’s one of the few real movie stars that remind me of the golden age of cinema….She has an incredible show-stopping beauty, talent, charisma, and has never been bland.
she sounds like she’s on a first name basis with Sam Taylor-Johnson? or merely a professional “know”ing as someone in the industry. i wonder if they exchange stories about directing. also i heard she has an interesting connection with Kathryn Bigelow?
one of these days it’ll be nice to watch a roundtable of women directors in Hollywood.
(i know that in an ideal world, the gender of the director of a film shouldn’t matter, but right now….)
Well Brad worked on Kick Ass with Aaron and I’m sure they all know each other. And Brad did some other work with Sam too; can’t recall off the bat. I just think she nor Brad feel the need to scream who their friends are and who they know.
@lisa2, Aaron was in Kick ass! i forgot about that! he looks quite different nowadays like an Edwardian gent. he was fudn in KA. i like that film a lot (esp. to watch with family).
ita with BP and AJ keeping it private, they don’t seem to feel the need to name drop, and i keep getting pleasantly surprised at finding out about her friendship with other people. she seems like definitely someone, i think, who you can trust with some confidential things in your life 🙂
I think Sam directed Brad’s Chanel commercial.
The chanel ads were by Taylor Johnson
@Lark, who wrote: “She’s one of the few real movie stars that remind me of the golden age of cinema….She has an incredible show-stopping beauty, talent, charisma, and has never been bland.”
That’s nearly word for word what Clint Eastwood said about Angie after directing her in “Changeling.” 🙂
That was the perfect answer to haters! Hahahaha between I can’t wait for the maleficent trailer coming out today
Man, I can see why Michael Douglas lied about the kind of cancer he had, I get that celebrities chose this career path and opened themselves up to people at large being in their business, but it doesn’t really seem appropriate to throw in ‘So, when are you getting your nether regions sliced out?’ for an interview about a Disney movie.
Maybe I’m just overly sensitive on the matter (I also have the BRAC1 gene and will have to look at a mastectomy and hysterectomy in my mid to late 30’s) but it seemed unneccessary. She’s already said she needs more surgery, why does it matter when? Maybe she should have waited til both surgeries were completed to say anything and have a little privacy.
Miffy I wish you the best on what you have to face.
thing is if she had them both and then talked nothing would have changed for some. They would have found something to rag on her for. As it stands I have seen some accuse her of using it for promoting the film. She didn’t bring it up and her response was all of 2 sentences. She didn’t go into any detail or anything. But again that 2 sentence response to that question is the headline.
made me recall a tweet from Juliette Lewis about a comment she made.
I say2 @peoplemag why always make my interviews about brad pitt and drug addiction,its 20 yrsold. Story comes out.. about THAT! Fckn TWATS!!
that is how it goes. They make the story about what they want; even if it is just 2 sentences.
I want all interviews of Maleficent Angelina do with Elle Fanning …. how cute she describing Elle ….. love the relationship of the two ….
Elle played Brad’s daughter in “Babel”, and a younger version of his love interest in “CCOBB” in addition to starring in “Maleficent” with Jolie. So she’s been a Jolie-Pitt for a long time now, lol.
His twiiter
Anthony Breznican @Breznican 18 h
What I like about this Angelina Jolie Q&A is seeing her awkward and dorky side. (My own should be no surprise.) http://on.fb.me/1nvq1pe
And he is cute….rsrsrs
She has stated that she is goofy and dorky before.I believe Brad called himself a dork/ not cool as well.Then again your kids can make you feel like a dork.
I wish her all the best. She’s taking steps to protect herself, to do what she can to be there for her family. That she’s shared this health information when she surely has the resources and power to have the surgeries under the radar is, in my opinion, so very generous.
The more that I hear from her in various interviews – the more that I like her – certainly she would’ve scared the crap out of me when she was younger if I had run into her – but she has grown into such a wonderful, mature – amazing person – a very productive member of society – I think she’s awesome!
Please… let’s not try to analyze the people on the internet who write mean and crazy things about people, especially the ones who post death threats. People are crazy. End of story. That’s why they do crappy stuff like that. If you try to think of any other explanation why, you’ll get a headache.
Anyhoo… I love, love, love Angelina (I’ve been Team Jolie ever since the first Tomb Raider movie) and can’t wait to see Maleficient! I hope it’s a good movie. And good luck to her with her second surgery.
I think a lot of it is attention seeking behavior. It’s ridiculous what people will say to get a reaction, and it’s always best to ignore idiots like that.
Seriously. If you ever want to weep for humanity, just look at youtube comments.
But really, most of these people are just trolls looking to get a rise out of people and usually, it works.
To be honest I think you are in denial. Not about YT commenters, but I mean about those who hate Angelina. If you seriously think they’re just trolls, then I feel you are in denial. These people – most of them, truly deeply believe what they say and truly deep down really really hate her. They are not just trolls, they REALLY hate her. I think that’s why you don’t get it. You think they’re just trolls. I wish. Unfortunately, they’re not.
Everytime I hear about this movie I basically picture it as a reality show about Angelina. It does look really cool though.
I think she knows what is written about her BUT DON’T SEEK IT OUT deliberately. Maybe she heard in passing from her friends, acquaintances or even relatives. However, I believe her regarding her right attitude or how she deals with the haters. Her EXPOSURE to other people’s struggles in life gives her a different perspective in life as well. Her having haters and knowing the suffering she sees in the field is just incomparable. That’s why she chose to devote her energy to what is important in life rather than the silly things she may have read or heard about her. Sure, human being as she is, there is hurt somehow BUT the hurt she feels is just nothing compared to the hurt she sees in so many unfortunate people’s faces. So instead of dwelling on what other people say about her, she prefers to have a passive attitude and just let it pass and just count her blessings, be grateful and share. She seems to know how to block any negativity and focuses on the positive aspect. With that, she has my great admiration & respect as she gives me inspiration.
Eloquently started! 🙂
The full interview is awesome. She really knows how to give a good read.
She obviously knows what’s been said about her. She’s almost certainly been called and asked to comment by press about Handler’s shennanigans but she is smart enough not to touch it which probably bothers Handler more than anything else. She is so right all of Handler’s bad jokes are so very high school and not worth it.
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I am not fanatical about celebrities, it’s just not my personality. However, I really like Angelina. Her humanitarian efforts really inspire me, she seems like a great mom (I am, of course, speculating from snippets of interviews and pap pics, but those children seem happy), and she seems to have grown and evolved as a human being. I love that she is powerful in Hollywood and has branched out into directing. She is not the same person she was 15 years ago, so it is foolish to judge her today for what she did in her early twenties (I would die if people judged me on my early 20s… I did some crazy stuff). I won’t even go into that stupid triangle, because it seems so long ago and is clearly obvious that Angelina isn’t some man-stealing seductress.
That all being said, it really surprises and upsets me to see so many nasty comments about her on the “mainstream” gossip pages and facebook sites for People, Access Hollywood and Entertainment Tonight. Pretty innocuous stories about her presenting at the Oscars and receiving and honorary Academy Award apparently warranted comments that she is disgusting, gross, ugly, undeserving, a sl*t, a wh*re, that no one cares about her anymore etc etc. These are facebook comments, mostly by women (and not to pigeonhole, but mostly ages 40-70) and not seemingly trolling like the ones mentioned here in the comments that were on Twitter. I was really appalled to see nasty comments on stories about her humanitarian work.
I’m glad that she doesn’t respond to the negative. She has a fabulous life and tries to better the lives of other. Haters to the left, I say.
Sorry TL;DR Angelina has grown as a person and has become a great humanitarian and the negative comments about her are unwarranted and cruel.
@Peppa
Very well stated and I agree with you completely.
I agree too. Great comment.
I also don’t ‘fangirl’ out on celebs but Jolie is a very difficult person to not like. She really seems to be a sensitive soul with a good heart.
The full interview made me more interested in maleficent than than the trailer , can not wait .
I’ve been reading Twitter.
Maleficent has wings.. this is going to be so good.
I’m going to fly with Angie… loonies lets go
@Maleficent
I had wings once. And they were strong, but they were stolen from me. #MaleficentsWings
Maleficent with her wings. Angie looks badass with them on.
http://b.pix.ge/o/qd3bu.jpg
Maleficent in her dragon form has wings and I can’t wait to see how that all ties together in the movie.
The new trailer is coming out tomorrow..
sneak peek
http://youtu.be/68_-5d3PHQE
Man, I hate hitting my horns on things! I’m assuming that surgery is an hysterectomy which, if you’ve ever known a woman who has to endure that, is an extreme uphill battle in terms of recovery. My mother in law (second wife to my father in law) had to have one at 48 and, though she had worked with children her whole life, she never had any. I think it’s tough to pass into the ‘crone’ stage of life so suddenly if you’re into the whole Maiden, Mother, Crone timeline.
A hysterectomy is removal of the uterus. An oophorectomy (which Angie is facing) is removal of the ovaries. There is a mistaken assumption that a hysterectomy also involves an oophorectomy; it doesn’t, if the ovaries don’t need to be taken out. If you have your ovaries removed it’s like an instant menopause and you will need hormone replacement treatment. If you have a hysterectomy alone, there is no need for hormone replacement and you will have a normal menopause (although if you have no obvious symptoms of menopause such as hot flashes, you may not even know when you go through it).
I had to have a hysterectomy (without an oophorectomy) at 38 due to fibroids which caused monthly periods so heavy that I became dangerously anemic and my red blood count dropped to 45% of normal. I felt like I was being drained by a vampire. My doctor built up my blood count to prep me for the operation (which involved iron shots, iron pills and eating liver three days a week). The day after the operation I was on my feet, and I was back at work in three weeks. I never felt better in my life. I looked great and felt great and didn’t have to be bothered any more with that bloody mess every month. And believe me, it sure improves your love life. 😉
A fan of Mists of Avalon, perhaps??
Oh my gosh I wish I could havr seen that, elle fanning hugging angie like a thousand bunnies! so cute! love them and lovr that elle is now also a brangieloonie!
I can’t help it, I’ll always be enamored by her. I hope her next surgery is successful.