Bloody hell, here we go. Snoop Dogg either got extra, super-duper high, or he’s endorsing a new dating service. Maybe both. I can’t figure out if this stunt is some crazy new persona like the Snoop Lion and Snoopzilla reincarnations or if Snoop is messing with us.
Snoop took to his Instagram account and posted several photos like this that show him in “whiteface” as a bro named Todd. Of course, he looks ridiculous and somehow even worse than Nick Cannon’s attempt at comedy. Snoop doesn’t look white as much he looks jaundiced, and the wig and glasses are terrible. He’s claiming to advertise a new dating service (?) WhiteGuysConnect alongside Nia Long. Todd says, “I like to paintball, crochet and do a little spoken word in my free time. My bros want me to tell you about this new website WhiteGuysConnect, where white guys look for fly single females to have a good time. Give us a call.” Snoop’s white-boy voice is pretty awful. Here’s a compliation of Todd’s pitches (NSFW for language):
Like I said, this could be a joke. Does WhiteGuysConnect even exist? Supposedly, the service is “coming soon,” but I doubt it. These photos and videos seem like a dumb idea that Snoop cooked up after smoking some really good sh-t. Maybe it’s a joke. Is Snoop still made of teflon? Many of you confessed to still loving him after he admitted to his pimp past.
Photos courtesy of Snoop Dogg on Instagram, Fame/Flynet & WENN
I lived for Snoop getting his nails frenched and throwing west side and then sonning his follower when he was like “omg u r so gay thats a french mani!” He was like I aint here for your heteronormative bullshit!!!
Thats all ive got
I love Snoop!
I love Snoop ! But I am slightly concern that he doesn’t take this to another level. Perhaps, liking more his lighter skin, but that would be funny really. I hope this fun he is having with playing Todd will leave his spirit sometimes soon. Becouse it is not that pleasant to watch him, it doesn’t suit him, he looks more albino then white.
I;ve got no time for this guy after I read the interview where he spoke of his pimping past. What he said, and the way he said it… nope thanks.
As for the pics, offended I am not. Just don’t care.
Meh, I love Snoop. He seems very normal outside of his celebrity. He coaches little league and relaxes by vacuuming for gods sake. I don’t find white face offensive, it’s kind of like them picking on us for being nerdy. Dave did it best and Cannon just wasn’t funny, Snoop poking the white race doesn’t bother me in the slightest.
Dave Chappelle did it betta.
+100. I miss Dave.
If white people with black face on or wearing native american costumes is offensive, this should be too
Racism goes both ways. I’m white and went to a mostly black high school. I got picked on a lot for being white. It is possible for non-white people to be offensive
+1000 @Audrey
Yes!
Nah, this is satire, and while it is definitely not ok to satire blackface, that is the double standard. We are never going to be able to completely homogenize the race issue, but this I have no problem with. When a group has been historically repressed…well, they get a little leeway.
Yes racism cuts both ways, but this is a little different.
There isn’t a history of hatred and slavery behind whiteface like there is behind blackface.
It’s a little like arguing that you should be able to wear a swastika because other people get to wear crosses.
Being picked on by teenage assholes sucks. Now imagine there is an entire social system that degrades your status as a person, not just some kids.
Well said! I love Snoop I’m 1/2 white and I do not find it offensive in the least. 🙂
As I said below, this boils down to different standards for different groups of people.
If we truly want equality, that’s not okay.
i recognise the differences but feel like this being considered okay is harmful and fuels resentment.
I’m not offended by it; but I worry that I could make his white fans think
“Hey if snoop can white face, then I can black face!”
Because although I like to think of myself as an optimist I do think that some people are that dumb.
I guess Audrey’s point is that racism exists everywhere. Since there’s no reason to suppress black people this could very well happen vice versa. I can’t hear the argument anymore, that it’s about history. You can’t still say that in hundred of years. Same rules for everyone.
Get over the rhetoric. This is offensive. Racism cuts both ways.
Yes there is a difference between black face and white face in terms of the history behind it. But you can’t hide behind that history to justify essentially the same thing. It’s kind of like when people say it’s okay for a woman to hit a man but not the other way around because the man is bigger. No, it’s never okay for a woman to hit a man (except self-defense obviously). It may be less damaging for a woman to hit a man but that doesn’t make it right. In my mind at least, this is a similar principal. It’s not okay for Snoop to do this, even if it is less damaging in general. It still offends.
I’m offended by this, not necessarily for the act within itself (I can take a joke) but because as a white person, if I dressed up as a black person to promote a club called “black guys connect” I believe I would be in very, very hot water. It’s more about the double standard that I am offended by, rather than what Snoop is actually doing. While I understand that there are different backgrounds and connotations behind blackface and white face, my initial reaction was to get a bit annoyed that nobody has a problem with this. It reminds me of the Deltra Goodrem/Marlon Waynes thing, a lot of people didn’t have a problem with it and thought it was super duper funny. We were discussing it at uni and people thought that the problem was that Marlon said Deltra could not dance, rather than the fact that he referred to her as a “white b-tch”. Imagine if someone had said that beyonce is a “black b-tch who cant dance”. RACIST?? YUP!!
I mean, we are living in a time where certain white celebs have been accused of racism for having back-up dancers of a certain ethnic origin… Sh_t is getting ridiculous and the double standards are out of control. If you think racism is wrong, then you should not be racist toward white people, black people, asians, hispanics or any other race. You can’t pick and choose!
Thank you for saying this. It’s offensive. Just like it would be offensive if Justin Beiber did blackface, Miley had a hispanic alter ego etc. Just no, Snoop.
What Maria below said. It is not the same at all. Its white people who have a history of using and abusing all the others for their own gain or amusement. Have you read about the history of black face? A black person painting their face white is not nearly as offensive as the other way round, and I’m as white as they come.
Qwerty I think you need to look at the past of Ancient Egypt and get a bit of a reality check. Black people DID abuse other races and had slaves. In fact they are still doing it in the present time to their own race.
There are tons of examples in world history of different races of how they raped, tortured and enslaved people of other races and guess what – they weren’t all white.
History shows us that whatever race has been “on top” has indulged in slavery and hurting others for amusement. In the US, it just happened to be the whites. Other countries it is other ways.
This is a HUMAN problem, not a race problem. Doesn’t matter what your race is, you have a dark side and the potential to be a tyrant under the right conditions.
AAs and Native Americans didn’t commit mass genocide, enslave, appropriate, or dehumanize whites for centuries…
It’s not the same thing at all.
Is what he did right? Nope, but his white face will not take away from white supremacy much less change how the rest of the world views whites.
Maria, you are spot on.
I’m sorry but I don’t buy that it’s okay to stereotype and impersonate white people based on what our ancestors did.
How can equality happen when there are different standards for different groups of people?
Maria, tell me, what is the statue of limitations on crimes committed by white people who are long dead?
200 years? 400 years? 500 years?
There are a lot of racist asshats in this world, yes, and they continue to cause suffering to others. But I’m not one of them and to say that this kind of bigotry is perfectly alright because some white people were and are horrible is discrimination.
I’m not responsible for the sins of a bunch of assholes, living or dead. It’s time to stop perpetuating this kind of payback, eye for an eye bullshit.
I’m tired of the ‘it’s not the same thing’ comments. Yes, it’s not the same thing, but it’s STILL OFFENSIVE! It’s almost as if you’re saying just because there’s a much more horrible history with blacks when it comes to race, that we whites shouldn’t feel offended with stuff like this. I agree, it’s not as offensive as blackface, but it still freaking offends me.
Spot ON.
And not a word about the slavery that is currently alive and well in Africa no less. And how very few whites owned slaves except for the rich and powerful including several presidents. Certainly not my ancestors. No. It’s time to stop the excuses for blanket racism against any race or ethnic group.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=white%20privilege
+1, @MissBennett, @Mmhmm, I agree with you both.
But it’s not the same. Look, I’m a white woman. If someone uses white face, I still have tons of representations of me. I can turn on the tv and still see people like me everywhere. This is not the only thing I have.
Plenty of other races can’t say the same, can they?
Btw, racism doesn’t go both ways. Prejudice does, but racism is institutionalized. As long as being white is both the norm and is rewarded, reverse racism will never be a real thing.
I agree with Maria and G. Both of you summed up my feelings and brought up some really great points. I think I will probably check out of this thread though! lol
That’s a cop out. Genocide is committed all too often and by every race on every other race all over the world.
Fairer skinned people are persecuted by darker skinned people.
As others are saying it’s about the intent behind the actions. Snoop is mocking. He thinks it’s funny, i’m sure. It’s not from a place of hate.
My only issue with this is the only people i’ve ever known that have really been into spoken word have been darker skinned.
@miss bennett until the wage gap for minorities matches whites, until incarceration sentences are balanced between races for the same crimes, until the poverty gap is balanced, and until whites are stopped and frisked as much as other races…
White people are just going to have to deal with our WORDS (which lbr have absolutely NO impact on your *collectively speaking* life) .
Saying this isn’t the same as black face does not equate to me excusing what Snoop did, in fact, I stated he was wrong.
Do I think all whites are racist? No.
Do I think minorities are incapable of racism? No.
Do I think it’s fair to punish all whites for their ancestors crimes? No.
Again, what Snoop did is not the same as black face, and my stating so doesn’t absolve nor excuse his behaviour.
@maria
This. I’m white and I’m not going to cry racism. I think it’s stupid, and not funny, and I’m not digging the stereotypes being played, but there is no history of repression against white people. The balance of power is historically rife with inequity and horrendous monstrosities that white people have done unto POC. Did my family own slaves? No. Does the color of my skin make cops leave me alone and people treat me with more decency than a friend who is a “minority” that is underserved even in todays supposedly “post racial” society? Yes. And its Bullsh!t.
The racism here is about as real as “the war on Christmas.”
The oppressed majority 😒
Nah… Sorry all races have committed horrific acts. No they did not do this to whites. Don’t lump all white people together. Germans, Slovakian, British etc. are all different countries and cultures and to say only white people committed genocide is incredibly ignorant. Cambodians, Vietnamese and the Japanese have done so as well. Check yourself boo boo.
White people that wear “Black” costumes/makeup may not be using it in the same connotation as “Black Face” or for racially offensive reasons. Get over it… and put it back in the deck. Why are white people still getting flack for something that happened so long ago. There aren’t very many racists white people left… and this may be a stereotype itself but minorities tend to actually be more racists. My mother is Asian and she can be very so at times.
So if white people can dress in a different race other races should not be able to do it as well.
Guess everyone should be pissed off at Robert Downey Jr. in Tropic Thunder then.
Snoop picked the wrong time to do this with all the racial tension.
Miss Bennett,
Slavery ended in America 149 years ago.
Maria that might because it was being done to them and they couldn’t. There is no saying what would have happened if they had the dominance in society. Not saying they would have — but you can’t say that they are somehow better because they didn’t do X when they never had the opportunity to do X in the first place.
Excellent comments, Maria.
@audrey your comment is the same (word for word) to replies people posted on tumblr to derail the discussion on racism in the US and how it’s connected to the deaths of Michael Brown, Trayvon Martin and Jordan Davis by saying that Starbucks and Uggs jokes are super offensive and racist. So maybe next time you want to pretty much copy and paste a comment to prove a point about “reverse racism”, you can choose a better comment (and story) to steal.
I didn’t steal anything.
I went to a high school which was 98% black. I was one of 4 white kids in my grade.
Was everyone awful? No. I’m still friends with a few people who I met there. But it opened my eyes to the fact that white people are not the only racists.
I simply do not support racism of any kind. I am not using this or my experience to justify racism towards anyone. I just think it’s only fair that no racism is tolerated, even if it’s aimed towards white people.
I support real equality
Anna
If you’re going to accuse someone of copy and pasting back it up. Audrey’s argument/opinion is a very common one and there are only so many ways you can phrase it without building a structured debate.
Don’t blindly accuse.
@FlorC You can go on tumblr and look at any post talking about racism against POC and you’ll see the exact same response Audrey gave.
I guess it’s still covered. It’s a common argument and there are only so many ways to phrase it. That’s why plagiarism isn’t easily claimed on very common points of thought.
Like Jolie-Pitt wedding. I say “who cares what her dress looks like. It’s her day to dress as she pleases.” And you can find word for word someone else saying the same.
Did I intentionally steal someone elses thoughts and opinion to pass off as my own? Or did I simply state my opinion in a few words. An opinion that was popular and has a few million others also stating the same thing.
My point is it’s silly to go claiming people copy and paste popular and common opinions. Why do it unless you’re trolling? Unless it’s a specific and uncommon statement that that person simply isn’t capable of comnig to on their own and passing it off for personal gain.
I’m with Audrey on this. You can’t point fingers at white people in black face and then be okay with white face. That’s what they call double standards.
the history isnt there, but really everyone needs to stop doing this. it’s stupid and makes other people feel like they have permission to be in black face.
This is a wholly misguided opinion. As others have stated, the historical significance of blackface being used to mock and further dehumanize black people is completely incomparable to “whiteface”. Snoop Dog in whiteface is ironic/parody because it subverts the history of dehumanization of an oppressed race by the race in power. Blackface is not ironic/parody because it simply furthers the dehumanization.
You’re drawing a fine line… The words “mock” and “parody” are remarkably similar in meaning. I understand there isn’t the history but it isn’t just the history that makes it offensive. Someone stealing your lunch from the fridge at work isn’t as offensive as stealing a family heirloom from your home. It doesn’t make it ok.
I agree Audrey. This is not OK.
Um…PREJUDICE can go both ways
RACISM (which is entirely different and involves institutions of power as well as systemic and continuous abuse) CANNOT
That’s one of several definitions of racism. Racism vs institutionalized racism
The belief that white people are inherently different and defined by stereotypes is a form of racism to me.
Is it the worst form? Absolutely not. I would never claim that. Black people and native americans have suffered far more historically.
As I’ve stated above, I simply believe that we can’t achieve equality so long as there are different standards for different groups. I certainly hope that one day we don’t even have groups at all. I don’t want to see a changing of the tides where this stuff becomes okay…I want to see real progress towards equality
Audrey – It might be racism “to you” but it is not, in fact, racism by definition.
I typed up a reply with quotes and definitions but I decided not to post it because I don’t want to get into a nit picking battle.
I went from my situation of being a minority in my school and city to studying African American history in university and then lived in the northwest territories of Canada where there’s a lot of racial tension between white people and aboriginals based on the recent history of residential schools and current disagreements regarding treaties and money.
I’m well aware that this ranks very low on the racism scale.
But I feel like turning a blind eye to or encouraging stuff like this hurts progress towards equality. We have to stop defining people based on racial stereotypes
Also what doesnt help equality?
the Colorblindness Utopia
The Reverse Racism cries when POC are in fact educating you about how actual factual in their every day lives Racism works as opposed to the “im offended” or “this hurts my feeling” one might be experiencing
#NotAllWhitePeopleing instead of checking one’s Privilege when is a fact that it exists, that apples are being compared to oranges and y’know , just quietly listening and Taking The L sometimes
Snoop looks cheesy and ridiculous But you don’t look at the next white dude and assume he is a Todd cause LULZ all white dudes are so Todd, as opposed to…say the way Fox news and a LARGE SEGMENT OF PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY assume, say, all black and brown men a certain age are “thugs” when their pants sag, That is The difference between “whiteface” and “blackface” white cis gendered men are still afforded and acknowledged their humanity, uniqueness and due process etc etc
@ Audrey I have lived in a black majority country until I was 16. I was one of a few white kids at school too and I got picked on for it. So I see your point. Racism is well and alive for both sides – especially in the country I am from- but we still cannot equate this with black face IMO. It is unnecessary and stupid. But it is not nearly as hurtful as black face nor does it have the same meaning. I think this is just going to make some white people think that black face is OK. That is the problem for me. Snoop’s and Cannon’s white faces ate not going to hurt me but it might hurt black people in long term, especially they keep doing it.
Gigi
How is what Audrey feels is racism not racism? To be treated differently because of your race/skin tone/societal expectations.
I’m just going to leave everyone with this. It’s already filled with every comment we can make.
http://www.debate.org/opinions/is-stereotyping-racist
Audrey is correct. Racism is a belief that your race is superior, so yes, blacks can be racist. Was snoop being racist? No, he was attempting humor.
The problem with QQ’s arguement is that it excuses one races bad behavior, because they don’t hold the power. The same can be said for the majority of whites. As a middle class white woman, I only have a few options to change the system like voting or speaking against wrongs done by the minority of people holding the power, and these are the same options held by any minority. It seems to me that the bigger problem now is classism.
Actually, by it’s current definition, racism can only go *one* way in the west (the dominant culture has the systematic advantage). Bigotry and prejudice can go both ways, though, and do. If you’re standing in China, the system is different and the dominant ethnicity looks different, but context is everything.
I got super defensive many years ago when someone pointed that out to me but grasping this is the first step in recognizing our privilege. It may seem like semantics, but it’s not, and those who insist it is are part of the problem–just reinforcing the system in the west the caters to white people and makes everyone else a second-class citizen. Sorry to be so pedantic but this is VITAL, people.
Snoop looks like a fekking a-hole, and what he’s doing is ugly and hurtful and bigoted, and no, not helping race relations in the States one bit. We agree on that. But enough with the whiteface/blackface analogies.
No, that’s simply an excuse to make it acceptable to treat white people badly and not allow them to complain. Why not just come out and admit it?
Would you call the “system” in Asia “reinforcing Asian privilege”? Because in Japan and other Asian countries, anyone not Japanese (or whatever ethnicity) is discriminated against. Do you rail against “African privilege” in Africa, especially South Africa where thousands of whites are being slaughtered simply because of their race? Having hurt feelings or the perception of being discriminated against isn’t actual discrimination, especially in a country where being a minority actually puts you at the head of the line for jobs, educational opportunities, and gets you tons of coverage and people falling all over themselves to help you. How much attention do the poor whites in Appalachia get, compared to the inner city blacks? How many excuses are made for those people, or are they always, ALWAYS called “backwoods, cousin-effers, inbred, bigots”…and on and on and on? So let’s not be disingenuous here. Minorities are ELEVATED above white people and whites are expected to not only acquiesce but enthusiastically applaud and champion their own disenfranchisement in the nations that their ancestors built. Why can’t we just be honest about it? Admit that all of this “white privilege” is just anti-white hatred and it stems from the desire to punish whites and “give them a taste of their own medicine”. Why all the need for lies if it’s such a righteous crusade?
Bravo! Astra perfectly stated!
@Astra who said “respecially in a country where being a minority actually puts you at the head of the line for jobs, educational opportunities, and gets you tons of coverage and people falling all over themselves to help you”
HUH Which Country is this this Pray tell ??? Is it the USA and are you referring to affirmative action because if you are numerous studies show that WHITE WOMEN have and continue to benefit most from affirmative action !
There so much in your post that I cant even respond to them all just so you know white people alone didn’t build this country it was taken violently from the Native Americans and was able to build up a foundation of wealth economic power and trading strength &advantage greatly aided by 260 years of FREE black labor, Since then Americans of all color have participated in nation building including giving their lives to fight wars overseas
I realize that some people use these post to spew whatever they have inside so back to the original topic , I think Snoop is WRONG and his actions are indefensible however for the heck of it could you and some of the posters google ” white face ” and then “Black face” and then get back to us ..Oh and Mebbe the term ” false equivalencies as well
its fun watching ppl define racism through their own color glasses… ive always found the dictionary to be the best opportunity we have for common reference points. for communication to occur….common language references must be established or we are all talking about something different. dictionary ppl..
rac·ism
noun \ˈrā-ˌsi-zəm also -ˌshi-\
: poor treatment of or violence against people because of their race
: the belief that some races of people are better than others
Full Definition of RACISM
1
: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2
: racial prejudice or discrimination
— rac·ist noun or adjective
See racism defined for English-language learners »
See racism defined for kids »
Examples of RACISM
the racism that was the basis of apartheid
Any action, practice, or belief that reflects the racial worldview—the ideology that humans are divided into separate and exclusive biological entities called “races,” that there is a causal link between inherited physical traits and traits of personality, intellect, morality, and other cultural behavioral features, and that some “races” are innately superior to others. Racism was at the heart of North American slavery and the overseas colonization and empire-building activities of some western Europeans, especially in the 18th century. The idea of race was invented to magnify the differences between people of European origin in the U.S. and those of African descent whose ancestors had been brought against their will to function as slaves in the American South. By viewing Africans and their descendants as lesser human beings, the proponents of slavery attempted to justify and maintain this system of exploitation while at the same time portraying the U.S. as a bastion and champion of human freedom, with human rights, democratic institutions, unlimited opportunities, and equality. The contradiction between slavery and the ideology of human equality, accompanying a philosophy of human freedom and dignity, seemed to demand the dehumanization of those enslaved. By the 19th century racism had matured and the idea spread around the world. Racism differs from ethnocentrism in that it is linked to physical and therefore immutable differences among people. Ethnic identity is acquired, and ethnic features are learned forms of behaviour. Race, on the other hand, is a form of identity that is perceived as innate and unalterable. In the last half of the 20th century several conflicts around the world were interpreted in racial terms even though their origins were in the ethnic hostilities that have long characterized many human societies (e.g., Arabs and Jews, English and Irish). Racism reflects an acceptance of the deepest forms and degrees of divisiveness and carries the implication that differences among groups are so great that they cannot be transcended. See also ethnic group; sociocultural evolution.
OFFENSIVE!!!!
Food for thought: did you know that black people still to this day, own slaves, other black people in other countries?! It’s so horrible and should be stopped. Did you also know that black people sold their slaves to white people to make money when white people first landed in Africa?! I have a college degree, and I was taught this in my history class! It blew my mind! Black people sold their own people to white people, creating slavery. White people did not just land in Aftica, and invent slavery….unfortunately they were taught it by black people. Back then, it wasn’t necessarily all about skin color yet. It was about your status in the community. People who were ‘not useful or pulling their weight’ were sold into slavery. It wasn’t until it came to America that it was a black white thing. Either way, owning a person, is lower than low. It should have never happened, but humans are greedy/selfish by nature.
I wish this wasn’t even news worthy! In this day and age, everyone(regardless of skin color)needs to have some culture sensitivity!
Please stop watching Fox news, Slavery is as old as time, even mentioned in the bible which predates the New World.Black people didn’t need to teach anybody White people enslaved other white people (I,e serfdom In Europe was a step above slavery ) Black people enslaved other black people. Brown, Yellow Red )Asians Mayans Incas Indian warring tribes enslaved their own as prisoners of war or considered lower caste. The transatlantic Slave trade however started the slave for profit where people were hunted and captured by the thousands specifically for enslavement based on race regardless of their wealth or station in life.
Ancient Slaves could also work for a set time and pay off for them selves unlike the Slavery in the USA where several generations(millions) were predestined for a life of slavery by virtue of their birth
There is a reason History is Called “HIS” STORY as the persons who documents it gets to control the narrative
BTW I think Snoop is being an A$$ but find it mind numbing how many posts here are referencing slavery as if that is the only egregious act ever carried out against blacks in the USA?????. Clearly it was the starting point but apparently many posters here haven’t watched the news in the past 10 years much less the past 10 days …….Oh Well
Guess it is OK for whiteface, but not blackface. Just sayin’.
I agree with you a million percent. I am 100% white if that is even possible, I am not offended by this however, if black face is offensive then why isn’t this?
Damn double standard…
This isn’t racism, but it sure is offensive. One way to tell is to substitute ‘white face’ with ‘black face’ and see if its okay.
I agree audrey it’s not OK when black people do this isn’t OK he thinks he funny just another no talented idiot looking for attention!
Context people. It’s kind of important. White face does not equal black face. Come on, now.
This is just as racist. Agree.
No, it doesn’t, and you’re speaking with ignorance of history. Racism against black people was institutionalized. Racism against white people has NEVER been institutionalized. Blackface is offensive because it was historically used by white people in support of institutionalized racism. Whiteface has never been employed by someone in a position of power by virtue of their race; it is employed to spoof behavior that was traditionally offensive.
And that’s the difference.
I have never loved this man. I suppose everyone will give him a pass on this though because he is a cool, pot smoking dude who is just having some fun.
Okay I have to admit I thought this was funny.
Me too. Funny in a “WTF is going on with this guy” way.
I saw this picture on another site and had no idea who it was. I knew it was someone black in white face and just SMH at the dumbness and offensiveness of it all. Yes a person of Color I find this racist. I don’t get the joke and it just seem like Snoop is trying to get attention.
This would be funny but kind of dumb if it weren’t so mean-spirited; as such, it’s off-putting, kind of obnoxious, and quite dumb.
Give him ten years and he’ll be yelling “Get offa my lawn!” to imaginary little children (and then shuffling inside to sit down and babble a little to his unimpressed–but pretending to be interested–geriatric care assistant about how he was a real-live pimp back in the day).
Bleh.
Omg, pimp be awful. Not funny – just pathetic.
At this point, I feel making fun of any race based upon stereotypes is uncalled for.
I agree.
I don’t see anything offensive mainly because he isn’t poking fun at white people features. When black face is done it is poking fun at black people features, like making there lips red and big, and finding the blackest paint to put on there skin.
Well Julianne Hough, who I cannot stand, went black face, with no exaggeration to features and was only going out on Halloween as a character from a Netflix series and people went bananas over how offensive it was. I am not sure I understand your point. Is it ok to go in black face as long as you do not exaggerate the features or are you saying it is ok only to go in white face?
Thank you, eliza! I was thinking the same thing that when Julianne dressed as a character, she was practically lynched by the pissed-off mobs. What Snoop Dogg did is no different.
so having the skin color of a zombie is not poking fun at white skin?
TMH
If we’re talking original black face then yes. You are correct. Here though it’s simply foundation and a wig with some props. While Snoop is attempting humor he’s a very unflattering negative image of Caucasians. Especially from him who is an image to be admired in his race (or any race). Successful, involved father, family man, and philanthropist.. Who then acts like a dorky, unattractive, white man who needs help getting a date. Also, that this site is so good it can find even “Todd” a date because he’s so undatable.
And yea. Hough dressed up as a popular character from a popular show in a group who were all characters. I’d think it racist if they made the only dark skinned person be crazy eyes. Or gave Hough prostetics on her face. People needed something to complain about.
I found the several selfies he posted hilarious, there’s so many memes now.
My favourite one was with the caption “the pose your mama makes when she gets an iPhone and posts her first selfies to Facebook” (or something along those lines). They were so funny and creative.
Omg! I saw that meme and I didn’t even realized that it was him until now! Lol.
It’s stupid. Snoop needs to find something better to do with his free time.
Not sure why Nia Long is involved with this, but she’s so freakin gorgeous. She never ages.
Yeah, I’m not offended or anything as a white person. I just didn’t find it well done or funny at all.
I don’t find it offensive in the “if blackface is offensive so is whiteface” sense. Whiteface doesn’t have the history blackface does, and ultimately it doesn’t harm anyone.
It doesn’t make it any less idiotic, and yes, while institutional racism is a bigger and more important problem, somehow people tend to downplay prejudice and individual cases of racism. Where on Earth do these people think large-scale prejudice and spiralling societal problems start?
So wash your face, Snoop. It’s not offensive per se, but you do look stupid as hell.
Whiteface will end up having a history if these double standards continue. There is no excuse for this kind of thing, from any race. Skin colour does not make you immune.
“Whiteface doesn’t have the history blackface does, and ultimately it doesn’t harm anyone.”
It most certainly does cause harm!!
Perpetuating stereotypes, of any race, is harmful to our society. This kind of garbage divides us, it’s exactly what we don’t need right now.
We need to stop sorting ourselves into little boxes based on skin color and see one another as human beings first.
Yes
Thanks, but I’m white and I AM offended. So please don’t presume to speak on behalf of all white people. This is racist, you can try and change the definition of the word all you want but it IS racist and you and everyone excusing it know it.
There’s a guy in our office who looks like that. He has albinism.
the question is why is he doing it in the first place? why did he have the idea to do it? the motivation behind something is very important.
personally to me it does not matter what history is behind something, either every impersonation of another race is off limits or they are all fine. you can not attack white people for dressing up in black face and then dress up in white face and yell “we are allowed to do that based on history and our skin color”
a decent person wouldnt taunt people like that.
im european so its also another different view but if i was offended by something i wouldnt do the same thing without feeling like a hypocrit.
im not offened by Snoop Dogg doing this but i am offended by people saying its fine because he is black.
race can never be an excuse for any behaviour.
how about we all strive to be decent people?
+ 1000
I really, really should not read these articles… or at least the comments, because they make me so hot in the head!
For those who equate this with Blackface – you’re wrong. I know, I know, opinions, blah, blah, blah… but no. You’re wrong.
For those who think “racism works both ways” – the same. You’re wrong. Sorry.
Back these up with proof and you have an argument.
Uh, proof? How about the fact that institutionalized racism exists TODAY? How about the fact that White people have never been in the position that minorities of any shade have been in? How about the fact that until 50 years ago Black people couldn’t use a public restroom in this country? How about the fact that some places STILL have segregated prom? Shall I go on?
Reverse racism doesn’t exist. People who use it make me eyeroll. Has anyone ACTUALLY LISTENED to what they’re SAYING when they say reverse racism?
It means that it’s so out if the norm to you that you actually notice it.
Which is why it’s not a thing. White people can feel prejudice. Not racism against them.
After seeing all that’s happening around the country right now, like in Ferguson, this isn’t even on my list of things that are bad. Too many bigger fish to fry than Snoop, who I like for his ability to tell heteronormative standards to go somewhere else.
@Um
I don’t blame Gigi for her simple statement without a huge backup in facts and argument. For the love of God, we’ve been OVER AND OVER this a thousand times. It’s already been stated well in the arguments above on this very post, not to mention every single time it comes up. You either get it or you don’t, and I for one stick with Gigi’s “you’re wrong.” Educate yourself.
Well, I’m not for any stereotyping or funning around those issues.
But for the record, my ancestors were not exploiting any people of colour. They were being starved, exploited and having their assets and lands taken away from them by other white people during the Holodmor. There are lots of victims in this world.
When you look at the violence and slavery going on in Africa just now, Snoop’s parody is more like a frat boy tasteless prank. Slavery is still real. Women and children of all colours are being sold into slavery.
How about some real accountability on the part of real current perpetrators?
“I really, really should not read these articles… or at least the comments, because they make me so hot in the head!”
Amen sister! I should probably start avoiding threads like this.
I can feel my blood pressure spiking, lol! I can hear the blood whooshing through my head! It’s probably pointless to argue my side, but I always hope just one person will get it!
Yup. It’s just raging at the pounding surf. Let someone else talk to the walls.
Yes – these posts are always so depressing and still never ceases to amaze that so many posters on here just don’t get it when it comes to having real discussions on race in America.
I guess it’s just so much easier to throw up tired arguments of “reverse racism” instead of actually listening to the real experiences of other POC for a change and maybe even having some empathy for them.
Sigh 😒
I’m sorry you have such a physical response, gigi-it really sounds unpleasant. If it’s any consolation, I’ve personally learned a lot from your comments (the Top Model headdress/blackface debacle comes to mind) . You are well spoken and we’ll informed, and I appreciate that you take the time to break these topics down from your unique perspective. So thanks!
Thanks, lirko!
While I don’t find this offensive like I do blackface, I also think that sometimes blackface isn’t offensive like Julianne houghs blackface. I believe that in her case she just wasn’t thinking.
Racism is racism though. There is no reverse racism, it’s either racist or not. White people can experience it just like a black person. Does this happen as often? Hell no!! I see it as we all have to address our own issues to move forward, and that means not justifying or rationalizing any bad behavior.
GiGi, how does condoning this kind of behavior help to end institutionalized racism?
All racism is wrong and this kind of garbage should be beneath us all.
You are wrong, very wrong.
Where did she condone this behavior? She is just saying that you can’t equate this with blackface or the racism that black people still endure. It doesn’t give you, as (I assume) a white person, the right to start whining “see? They do it, too? Why can’t I wear blackface? They say the N word! Why can’t I? I’m a victim, too, just like them!”
It’s. Not. The. Same. Thing.
GNAT, where did MB say she as a white person wanted to do this or starting yelling the “N” word? I thought her comment was just simply stating it’s all bad. You can’t lambast someone for saying it’s all wrong. Besides there is a huge difference between saying a word like the “N” word being used between two black men, and a white person trying to use it, and a joke that crosses racial lines like whiteface or blackface.
Patricia, you’re right, she didn’t say that. I was just responding to all of the arguments that start where she starts, with the assumption that blackface and whiteface are both racist and are the same thing. People who say that on here are usually the same people who go on to say that if black people can say the N word, they can, too. So, it wasn’t fair of me to assume that’s how she thinks, but it wouldn’t surprise me if she did. Because she has the underlying belief that we are all starting at the same place. And we’re just not.
GNAT, I, as a white women, 100% agree with that. Sometimes, it’s harder for my generation to understand the depths of all that has happened and continues to happen. I once did a paper for a psych class on race and different races traditions. I think that part of the problem lies in that. Black culture promotes the handing down of culture through stories and talking about the past whereas white culture promotes the passing of culture more through knowledge and schooling. It makes a huge impact how people relate to things. To hear a story and the emotion behind it are much more powerful than reading about them. Just a thought of mine.
Is that his hair dyed, or a wig? Either way it’s utterly unconvincing, though I suppose that is the point…
He looks like Snoop with bad makeup and a bad Wig. He doesn’t look white , he looks weird.
I like Snoop but this is just stupid looking.
Doesn’t offend me at all. Why would it?
It offends me because it’s racist and mocking white people. That’s why some people are offended.
I don’t think this is offensive and it’s not same as black face. But when people do things like this it continues to divide us. I also think the timing makes it worse because of the Michael Brown thing. It makes me really sad to read the comments under the news stories about it.
I fuggin love some Starbucks and Uggs though
Where did this whole stereotype that Starbucks and Uggs are for white people? I see all ethnicities in Starbucks and I see all ethnicities wearing Uggs. Just like that stupid stereotype that black people love fried chicken and watermelon. Ummm hello lots of people (all races) like fried chicken and watermelon ! I just don’t get it.
He looks stupid. He looks as stupid as a white guy putting on black face and a wig. End of story.
OMG! He stole Lena Dunham’s hair.
Comment of the DAY!
He’s as ugly as the Wayans brothers as fake Hiltons sisters in their movie
Where’s the rest of the 90210 renunion cast?
the sword of racism cut both ways……so it does offend……
Typically, I would find something like this amusing…but after Julianne Hough (and other celebrities) being lambasted for the exact same behavior, I say he should be “made to apologize” and “held accountable for his behavior.” Also of note: JH was portraying a specific character who *gasp* had a darker skin tone, and was portraying it is such. I still fail to see how that is blatantly racist. Snoop Dogg is seemingly just doing whiteface for the hell of it, which would be fine, but I’m sick of the racism card only going one way. Therefore, this should be labeled as “offensive.” Equality doesn’t mean that one race or culture is revered.
I totally agree with everything you just said! I never understood the outrage about hough. She was clearly a fan of the show and the actress, and wanted to dress up like the character. There was nthing offensive there to me.
According to me this is a double standard.
Full disclosure: I am a 20 year old white female from the netherlands.
I just think it’s mean spirited. Why do something like this? What purpose does it serve? I can’t believe the goal in this is purely humor.
Desperate move for attention.
The great Robert Klein says yes, you can do a cancer joke but it better be funny.
That’s where I am with this Todd shtick. It better be funny.
So far, not so funny.
Well it’s a good thing I’m not white because apparently they aren’t allowed to be offended by anything.
I’m on tumblr (don’t judge me LOL) and the amount of generalizing, racist comments towards the white population as a whole is awful. They think on there that making fun of the race and saying awful things about them isn’t racism but getting their dues.
Dommy Dearest, I love your sentence, “…making fun of the race and saying awful things about them isn’t racism but getting their dues”. I agree with what you said as well as Fatty Magoo pointing out how apparently whites aren’t allowed to be offended by snide remarks and general displays that take jabs at their color because of the sordid history involved.
Funny thing though, for me personally (as well as many, many others), the last time I checked, my long list of ancestors had absolutely nothing to do with this particular bit of history which is being used as a “justifiable” reason for the behavior.
Yet in general terms, I should be made to feel guilt and responsibility for what happened in the history of the USA, just because of my skin tone.
MTDOM, I grew up in Georgia (I commented some of what I went through in high school down below) and I was a target of racism based on my fair skin. It didn’t contort my views and make me racist as I dream of a world in which we’re all treated equally and with respect. I was called a slave trader when in reality my ancestors didn’t come from France until the early 1900s and my dad’s side was Native American and Irish. I’m 25 now but then 15 year old me was particularly hurt at that label. I took Advanced Placement US History and it detailed the slave trade (starting with the Spaniards going to Africa first then the rest of the world). It’s all a disgusting thing and it’s heartbreaking. Tumblr is a breeding ground for racism, especially because of the anonymity (and I won’t get started on the ‘feminists’. Actually I will: A self proclaimed feminist told a boy that being a feminist meant being able to do whatever she likes without any repercussions. Yeah, let that sink in). I know when I see a racist comment I do reply that racism is racism no matter the skin tone to which I’m met with ‘WHITE PEOPLE ARE SO FRICKING DUMB. THEY THINK THAT THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE OFFENDED. GO DRINK YOUR STARBUCKS BITCH’. If it weren’t for the fact my dash is full of comics and hawt menz I’d not get on tumblr ever again. But comics and hot men… I can’t. It’s how I discovered who Andre Hamann is (HOTNESS).
I did not think anyone would read my comment lol but I agreed with the both of you. I’m actually a bit flabbergasted that someone in the thread said that racism doesn’t go both ways. Of course it does! And that kind of thinking doesn’t help us as a country at all.
I’m white but I was born in Mozambique after the independence. We had to leave the country we loved so much not to be killed. My parents told me that when I was a few months old, we lived in the outskirts of the city. The road to our home was pretty deserted during the night. One day, my dad worked until very late, he was a bank clerk at the Bank of Mozambique, so my mum didn’t want to go home that evening because, the night before a white couple and their kids had been killed and cut into pieces on that same road.
We still lived there until I was 5 (though we moved to the city centre where the mozambican police controlled the rebels that killed sistematically white people). But things got so out of control with the civil war that we finnally left. If that type of violence isn’t racism, I don’t know what it is. The first couple of years in Portugal weren’t any better. There was a group of kids at school (white kids) who used to call me the n-word and other names. For a dark blonded, pale complexioned girl, it was so strange. I remember once answering them that, though my skin was white, I was black in my heart. Funny the things one remembers…
Dave Chappell performed a similar “white-face” routine several years ago and it was hilarious.
Snoop just comes across as disparaging and meanspirited.
+ 1. Well said, Tippy
Boy, he’s not very pleasant to look at , is he?
Snoop Todd looks like Beyoncé.
Completely offensive. Excusing it as “attempted humor” implies that blackface was also attempted humor. Both are offensive & yes, I do understand irony.
People really just need to stop doing this its neither appropriate or funny ! Whilst I am aware of the painful history behind black face and its use to demean/ caricaturize black people , that’s all the more reason that black people who have been victimized by this ignorance for centuries should know better than to turn around and do this to someone else.
Further more his tomfoolery gives people with racist intentions the leeway to cry when doing blackface ” waah how come its ok when Black people do it ?” I can guarantee the next time someone sees fit to do black face or desecrate a sacred war bonnet there will be the obligatory Snoop reference . This is just plain ignorant
They’re doing it already. Snoop does this dumb, ignorant thing and suddenly all the racism that black people deal with disappears in a puff of historical revision and retroactive continuity. Snoop does this dumb, ignorant thing and apparently blacks are the dominant force in North America preying upon whites. He does what he wants and we have to clean up his mess because this brings out the ‘ You see, you see?’ crowd and that particular brand of insanity. You might have more patience than me, but I’m going to peace out on this one before the blood starts trickling out of my nose and ears. I don’t know how people aren’t going through toxic shock for all the bullsh-t inside. My time has better uses.
he’s so beige
Can’t have it both ways, it’s offensive (and I say this about anything that has to do with equality).
I grew up in Georgia and the middle school I went to there wasn’t much to say about racism since we were all oblivious to it for the most part. But when I got in high school there wasn’t a day that went by that I wasn’t called a white bitch, generalized with the rest of the white population (yes, there were some racist white groups- there’s always that group sadly), threatened, and whatnot but it’s never made me resentful or hateful of another race. I remember a white student was jumped because he was wearing a Dixie Outfitters shirt that had Uga on it, nothing else, and the student ended up in the hospital. It was made known that if a white person was seen with a Dixie Outfitter item that they’d be jumped. I remember being called a slave trader because of my race despite my ancestors not having moved to America until about the 1900s from France (my dad’s family is Native and Irish) so I did hurt my feelings at the time for being generalized. I was threatened with being held down so that they could shave my ‘baby doll hair’. I moved away from there (and up here to Washington) but I can only imagine what it’s like now with the turbulent racism that’s going on and being noticed. I was bullied because of my race for four years of my high school life so maybe I’m a bit more offended at this because of it, but I’d be just as offended in seeing blackface on a white person.
If we yell and shout equality for all then steps need to be taken for such to happen. I’m sure this was done in humor and yes I enjoy watching the movie White Chicks. But where do you draw the line? I don’t have the answer but I can only speak from experience from things done maliciously. Do I think Snoop is being malicious? No. But we’re in a time in which equality for all is being stretched thin and I don’t think this helps much. I don’t think any race painting themselves as another helps.
Eh. Just my two cents.
People be dumb…
“Btw, racism doesn’t go both ways.”
G, are you on crack?! There are minorities that HATE white people, that want to see white people dead. That isn’t “prejudice” it’s racism.
I for one, am not offended by Snoop’s white face, except that he looks so damn goofy doing it. I will say that if we want to achieve equality, this isn’t how to do it. No matter if there is “history” behind black face, white face, purple face, IT IS WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!
I also get sick and tired of the attitude that shit like this happening is ok because it’s against white people, that’s it’s okay to make generalizations against white people, it’s okay to make snide remarks and stereotype because white people deserve it. Not all white people owned slaves, and believe it or not, not all the white people in the US have been here since the mayflower landing.
No matter what color your skin is, that attitude is wrong and if we continue to make it “ok” against one group of people, we will never see true acceptance of anyone.
He looks more scary than offensive, to me. That being said, @ Allie
“Not all white people owned slaves, and believe it or not, not all the white people in the US have been here since the mayflower landing.” — Exactly. And not all white people were welcomed here, either. The Irish were white as could be, but were routinely discriminated against both for being Irish and Catholic. Kids were told not to play with my great-grandparents because they were Irish Catholic, and that would somehow “contaminate” their WASP school mates.
There is also a very ugly history if the Irish Slave Trade: (Quote from another website)
“The Irish slave trade began when James II sold 30,000 Irish prisoners as slaves to the New World. His Proclamation of 1625 required Irish political prisoners be sent overseas and sold to English settlers in the West Indies. By the mid 1600s, the Irish were the main slaves sold to Antigua and Montserrat. At that time, 70% of the total population of Montserrat were Irish slaves…”
Not to mention “indentured servitude” for those Irish that came to America… yeah, contract my rear-end. A contract conveniently often full of loopholes with no hopes of ever getting out…
Yup, offensive. And he looks like the Cowardly Lion in The Wizard of Oz, so it’s not just offensive to white people, but to lions, too.
I’m so sick of these stupid celebrities alter egos!
Coming from a mixed race person on Latin American ancestry, yes there is racism from all shades. You want proof? Exhibit A. Look at any post that includes a white person on Media Takeout. Their references to no- @$$ having Beckies (as white women are referred to) to whites having the skin of raw meat and with stringy hair that smells like wet dog. See what they call Latinas. The same ugly words racist whites have spewed against Latinos for years are being spewed by Black posters who feel they are better that these “immigrant wet backs”.
Also, I grew up in a low income housing project and when a white person wandered into our neighborhood, or in our schools they were taunted jumped, or robbed, because they weren’t black or latino. Racism is everywhere unfortunately. Yes whites hold the majority of the stigma because their racism has been chronicled on a global scale, but it can and does go both ways.
The nonviolent approach to all of this shtick, is to ignore it and focus on relating to people in ways that work. I have been thinking about this a lot lately. The playing field is still not level in this country and that’s wrong. There are also times when my interaction with a person of color are not based on the present, but their experience of the past. I’m sorry for that. I can’t make that past go away. I’ll keep waiting for the day when the past doesn’t hurt as much, when everyone feels respected insomuch as their behavior earns respect, and in the meantime, I will aim to respect everyone’s history, and aim not to offend, as best I can.
Just throwing my 2 cents here and I apologize if I say something offensive.
To start with, racism is nothing more, nothing less than hatred towards someone from a different skin colour. Apparently, people haven’t yet learnt that they are basically humans against humans, but that’s a totally different topic. There’s racism against white, black, or any other race, period.
Stereotyping is different from racism, two totally different concepts. Examples of stereotyping: all British drink tea or all Portuguese women have a moustache. Let’s not confound both concepts, please.
Then you have xenophobia, which is basically hatred towards anything foreigner.
There’s also religious hatred, unfortunately, as many other forms of hatred.
Secondly, I think some people have difficulty in understanding or differentiating comedy from racism. Maybe it’s the historical or family/societal background and upbringing, but not everything related to race is done with the sole purpose of being offensive. Though, if in some countries black facing is considered offensive, then white facing should be considered offensive too, just to maintain equality in standards.
Finally, and probably the most problematic part of my long text, the USA have an enormous problem with racism. I’m sorry for saying this, but they do (maybe more than in Europe), and people don’t know how to solve it. The scars from history are so deep that people don’t know how to change society. Every single attitude, gesture, word spoken (sometimes innocently and by innocently I mean that the person wasn’t doing it on purpose – I know some will immediately say the person should know better) is pointed out as racism.
Racism existed, exists and unfortunately will always exist all over the world towards every race… 🙁
Human nature apparently is related to that ability to find any excuse to hate….
He hates women.
Funny! Though he still looks black, it’s his nose and lips, the skin color makes no difference
Funny! Love me some snoop.
Snoop looks like Waka Flocka’s mom Deb!
Why is he mocking black people with albinism? That’s what he looks like, but I guess based on the comments he’s mocking white men instead? I’m not a fan of mocking a whole group of people (or individuals, but I admit to having mocked individuals who’ve hurt me) because I think stereotypes should die a horrible death…but I think my mom puts it best on whether this is racist or not, “I don’t know, but I think it might be if you’re white.”
This is great and important dialogue that needs to happen more to garner understanding. For the record as an extremely white girl…I find white face inoffensive and funny, but black face offends me to the extreme.
I’m interested in seeing the response when the next attention seeker puts on a war bonnet. You don’t seem to think that Snoop is showing respect and a love for blonde hair here, so how will you be able justify the wearing of the headdress? Is it going to be another day full of complaints about the ‘race card’, ‘freedom of speech’ (misinterpreted) and ‘PC culture’? Will people be ‘too sensitive’, then?
I’m not even going to touch the notion of history having no bearing on how we view whiteface versus blackface.
Teflon. I am white, and not bothered by this. I feel I should be offended by the double standard, but I’m not. I’ve seen a lot of interviews with Snoop, and I think he is genuinely cool with everybody. I don’t think Snoop had a racist, or malicious, intent. I do believe this is not Snoop’s best decision, and he really should have thought this one through. Maybe the weed was particularly strong that day. Snoop needs to find a new hobby.
Can we just agree that if you paint yourself up to look like another race, it’s racist? Why are we even arguing about this?
When will these celebrities learn ” just don’t go there” white face, black face,actors made up as fake Asian people etc, just don’t even go there. Enough. It’s stupid,it’s tired, it’s insensitive.
Snoop is above this, his talent speaks for itself, he
Doesn’t not need to do these attention seeking gimmicks, IMO , Just perform, like Prince does. Snoop Dogg is iconic.
What a dork.