Nate Parker is ‘in a low place,’ thinks the backlash might be a conspiracy

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I understood the idea behind putting Nate Parker front and center in the media, months before his film, The Birth of a Nation, was released nation-wide. I understood the PR strategy behind it: the studio knew that Parker’s rape trial would be brought up, so they decided to do on their terms, on their schedule. But I still think that everyone involved with Parker’s PR completely underestimated the sh-tstorm they were unleashing. It’s not even like they’re playing a long game with this either – the film premieres at TIFF in a few weeks. Parker won’t be able to do any press for the film without every journalist asking him questions about the trial transcripts, his alleged stalking and harassment of a rape victim, and why his alleged victim committed suicide. The next four months are not going to be pretty.

Since last week’s barrage of terrible headlines about and around Parker, there were some added stories that I thought I would compile, just as a heads up. Obviously, we’re going to be talking a lot about this for months to come, but for now, Parker is staying somewhat quiet. Other people are speaking though.

The Limits of Empathy. Noted feminist scholar Roxane Gay tweeted about Parker’s trial transcripts last week, then she wrote an op-ed about the situation for the New York Times, which you can read here. She slams Parker for his “staggering solipsism” and for the deeply cynical and manipulative way he presented himself to “get ahead” of the story with Deadline. It’s a great piece.

Al Sharpton is suspicious. You would think that Al Sharpton would have just waited a second to figure out all of the complex components of the story before running to the media. He did not. Sharpton thinks the negative media blitz around Parker is a right-wing conspiracy to get people to avoid watching a film about a slave rebellion. Sharpton told the NYDN: “I want answers. I’m suspicious. The timing and the standard is my concern. If a person is accused of a crime and is acquitted, are we now saying they should not be considered for an Oscar?” Sharpton also spoke to The Root – go here to read.

The Women’s Law Project. The WLP represented Parker’s alleged victim when they were at Penn State together. WLP’s director confirms that because of the victim’s testimony, the WLP filed suit against Penn State after the university failed to do anything about Parker’s harassment of the victim. Basically, the WLP has been trying to get Penn State to completely change their policies around sexual harassment, rape, assault, consent and more for nearly 25 years. You can read that piece here.

Nate Parker’s new/old interview. Variety has a new interview with Parker. “New” as in they haven’t published it before, although Variety makes it clear that the interview took place before Parker spoke to Deadline two weeks ago. You can read the interview here – it’s mostly about the film, but Variety prefaces the interview with some background on what’s been happening in the past two weeks (more on that in just a second). Variety also notes that even before Parker’s Deadline interview blew up, Parker was already doing some damage control over the fact that his old roommate and convicted co-rapist Jean Celestin has a co-writer credit on the film. Like, Parker is trying to distance himself from Celestin now.

Nate Parker is sad. Variety’s sources say that Parker is currently “in a low place” and “He vacillates between thinking the case is resurfacing now after 17 years because of a Hollywood conspiracy against him or just bad luck. He’s disappointed over the backlash on social media and that the African-American online community hasn’t been more supportive. And he’s even mad at himself, for underestimating the public’s interest in a court case that happened so long ago.” Um… didn’t Parker and the studio specifically decide to “get ahead” of the story by doing that sit-down with Deadline? THAT is what started everything. And the reason why Black Twitter isn’t defending an alleged rapist is because people read the trial transcripts, which were brutal and appalling. Variety also quotes a few unnamed directors who are stirring the conspiracies about a campaign to suppress the film, saying that “something is wrong about the way it went down.” No, something went right – people are no longer going to tolerate and give free passes to talented rapists and abusers.

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  1. A conspiracy? Good night! Can’t the backlash be because he stalked and raped a woman?

    • INeedANap says:

      But like, she was drunk. She put herself in that situation. So he did nothing wrong. (Btw I’m paraphrasing his own words.)

      • Cee says:

        Is consent a concept so hard to grasp? It should be taught both at school and at home because some men really believe it’s only rape when the woman is awake, struggling, and hurting/screaming.

      • greenmonster says:

        @Cee: don’t forget, that it’s only rape when the woman is NOT wearing short or revealing clothes and has lived the life of a saint before.

      • Hadleyb says:

        You should read some of the comments on Yahoo and other sites — from men mostly how she placed herself there, its her fault for allowing it to happen, they had sex before so its not rape — and more disgusting things.

        And reading about how she gave him a BJ to be safe and protect herself from further harm or rape was just sad .. if you have ever been overpowered by a man you will understand this but men don’t. They think because he didn’t beat her to death nearly and tie her up it was ok. She wanted it. She gave in and they don’t understand that AT ALL and makes me so angry and how DARE this Al turn it into a race issue !! how dare he.

      • MC2 says:

        Hadleyb- I agree & feel your frustration. I think that’s why we (as a society/women/etc) need to dig our heels in & not let this guy go. We need to speak up when we hear stupid things like that said in our lives so that people know it’s not okay.

        The fact that he is making himself out to be the victim….smdh.

      • Maire3 says:

        @Hadleyb “…if you have ever been overpowered by a man you will understand this but men don’t.”

        Actually, I suspect deep down men do understand. I have posted this before, that it is an undercurrent of homophobia in male athletics (professional & collegiate). These ultra masculine athletes are paranoid about being subjected to the same awful (and threatening) behavior they repeatedly inflict upon women. They can hide behind “He said, she said” rationalizations. But they don’t have the backup for “He said, HE said” scenario.

      • ann carter says:

        this is it in a nutshell.
        the fork in the road of racial dialogue.
        MUST be a “conspiracy”.
        Newp.
        actions and those pesky consequences, no matter who you are..

    • Goats on the Roof says:

      Amen! He and his studio decided to get in front of the story, thinking if he talked about it directly it wouldn’t be an issue come awards time. There is no conspiracy here, just an unapologetic rapist who will not be getting my support. Anyone who thinks something sneaky or “suspicious” (f*ck you, Al Sharpton) needs to read the trial transcripts posthaste.

      • swak says:

        Al Sharpton is an idiot. He gets on the nearest bandwagon that will give him the most publicity without thinking or hesitating a moment to think about what he is saying.

      • Samtha says:

        Al Sharpton needs to retire. I wonder if he thinks someone like George Zimmerman deserves support and respect, just because he was acquitted. I’m guessing not.

      • Brandy Armstrong says:

        Preach!!!

    • Mia4S says:

      You know what I think is a conspiracy? That he and his co-accused buddy wrote a movie that includes a rape scene. So they got to imagine and then he got to direct a rape scene.

      I think I’m going to be sick.

      I will not watch this movie, not even for free.

      • Bridget says:

        Just one quibble: reportedly it’s not an actual rape scene. And before this came to light he was praised about how powerful it was.

      • Mia4S says:

        I don’t care how “implied” it is, the fact that it was praised as “powerful” tells me we know exactly what’s going on. Sitting there with this guy’s history in your head that scene is no longer what it was supposed to be. It’s disturbing for a whole new reason.

        And yes I felt increasingly nauseous as Woody Allen’s leading ladies got younger and younger.

      • Samtha says:

        Bridget, according to reviews I’ve read, there are actually two rape scenes–one onscreen and brutal, the other more implied.

      • Bob says:

        Plus, the rape of Turner’s wife is complete fiction. They inserted the rape as motivation into the story, because I guess Visions from God wasn’t considered sufficient.

      • Bridget says:

        It’s power comes from Gabrielle Union’s performance, and is actually because she’s completely silent and specifically because it was entirely implied (no clue about a second scene). Nate Parker has given us enough to nail him to the wall, we don’t need to imply that he stuck in a rape scene to get off.

      • Merchant Smearer says:

        @Bridget
        “Nate Parker has given us enough to nail him to the wall, we don’t need to imply that he stuck in a rape scene to get off.”

        Imply that he stuck in a rape scene? I’m not sure what you mean by that, or that unfortunate phrasing, considering. What he and his friend/convicted rapist-co-writer of the script did do: wrote a completely fictionalized rape scene. Is that somehow different than “he stuck in a rape scene to get off”?

    • T.Fanty says:

      Let me correct the conspiracy theory: Penn systematically ignored serious allegations, supported athletics over victims’ rights, and assumed that a payoff could compensate for criminal negligence.

      • Prairiegirl says:

        This! Bravo.

      • MC2 says:

        Exactly- this was the conspiracy!

      • Miss Jupitero says:

        Nailed it. Exactly.

      • TheOtherSam says:

        Correction Queen here – not to quibble, aware the subject matter is sensitive but – please refer to Parker’s alma mater as “Penn State” and not the incorrect “Penn”, which is shorthand for the University of Pennsylvania. A completely different institution.

        AFAIK Penn doesn’t have the issues with athletic worship, sexual assualt and cover up that Penn State unfortunately does.

    • Kitten says:

      But he’s in a “low place” the poor guy! Don’t you feel bad for him? Everybody is attacking poor Nate Parker! I mean, just because he raped, harassed, bullied and eventually drove his victim to suicide…..HOW CAN YOU NOT SEE HOW BADLY HE’S HURTING?????

    • SM says:

      What conspiracy? He should pat himself on the back – he succeded and is famous now. That explains the timing. And all forms of solidarity including gender, racial, national or religious have limits. Rape, abuse and harrasment is that limit and i would like to believe that this story will show that. The mere fact that he does not show any remorse or that the studio husling for oscar for this movie does not push the PR in a different direction which would include some sort of apology, shows that they all think this is ok to rape someone and just say hey, it happened a long time ago we all changes since then or this movie is not about that so do not change the conversation. That is the most horrific thing for me in this situation. And the mere fact that he still is friends with the that guy who raped her, even if he was just sitting in the same room and never put a hand on the girl himself or as he believes had consensual sex that still is enough to prove that his whole I am a changed man narrative is bullshit.

    • delorb says:

      A conspiracy? I seem to recall the same reaction from women to other Hollywood rapists. No one is singling him out because he’s black or because they want to sink his chances for some award. How far up one’s own ass do you have to be to think so selfishly? I mean, damn! This MOFO even thought that if he ‘got ahead’ of this story of rape, that people would just dismiss it as he probably has.

      He has no empathy for her. Its all about him. How he feels. How this effects his movie. His career. He managed to go on with his life after raping her. Go on with his life after the trial. Go on with his life after she killed herself. He probably thought he’d get the Polanski treatment. But the only people who defend Polanski work in Hollywood.

      I’m very proud of black twitter for not siding with this criminal. For nor buying the lie that there is a conspiracy against him. For understanding that this criminal shouldn’t be defended.

  2. Trixie says:

    Something is not wrong about the reaction to Nate Parker’s past. Something is right, finally, in that people are calling him out for raping and harassing a woman and not just letting it slide because he’s talented.

    • BeBeA says:

      I agree completely, but I have seen him in several movies and heard nothing of this case but on a big buzz movie this comes out in full detail. I want my money back for those other films cause I wouldn’t have gone to see them had I known.

  3. Erinn says:

    Sorry, guy. You’re an arse, and you were foolish to think the masses would fawn over you. The world is a different place than it was 17 years ago. There is a lot more online activity, and a lot more chances to call people out. You got called out. You might have gotten a pass in court but you’re not getting a pass with public opinion.

    It’s a shame because it sounds like a decent movie. But he can thank himself for his past overshadowing an important project.

    The “oh Nate’s sad” thing needs to stop now. I’m sure the woman who killed herself because of the events that transpired felt pretty damn sad too – funny he didn’t seem to care about that.

    • Kitten says:

      It needs to stop yesterday. After reading the horrifying transcripts, I truly thought I couldn’t detest this guy anymore but..I was wrong, apparently.

      • Erinn says:

        It’s sickening.

        And it also speaks to how things seem to work for the famous. He’s completely baffled that people aren’t cool with what happened. Probably because time after time we see celebrities, and people who commit these kinds of crimes skating. How often do we see people still get incredibly lenient sentences for sexual assault or rape. They get a slap on the wrist while the victim sees it all play out in the news with the media painting the criminals as ‘good kids’.

        How often do people like Lindsay Lohan or Michelle Rodriguez’s receive multiple DUIs with no real consequence. Or people like Mark Wallberg or Chris Brown who beat the crap out of people and are still free to do whatever they please.

      • Crumpet says:

        Kitten, I saw your response to my post where you talked about being a very empathetic person. I remember as a child crying for days after seeing a starving baby in Ethiopia on television, and my mother explaining to me what empathy was and that I seemed to have a lot of it. For that reason, I am not going to read the transcripts – it would just take me vividly to a very dark place that I just can’t go to right now. But kudos to you for going there and speaking for this poor woman.

        Nate can burn.

      • Wren says:

        @Crumpet, I’m like that too. I don’t watch the news or violent movies and such because it affects me too much, even if it’s fake. The horror of it all simply paralyzes me.

        I read the summary of the transcripts and that was more than enough. Coupled with his “woe is me” act, it’s beyond sickening.

      • pinetree13 says:

        Me three Crumpet.

        I get deeply, deeply affected by what I see on the news. I try to avoid it but even just checking the weather sometimes I’ll read a horribly disturbing headline. Then it plays over and over in my head. I’ve been yelled at on this site before because I often criticize American mass shootings (I’m very anti-gun) but I think the people didn’t understand it’s because those events literally haunt me. Stories like these make me cry and just haunt me for weeks.

        Sometimes I like to pretend I’m in the Truman show and that all the horrible stuff i see/hear about isn’t real…

      • Capella says:

        Repeat post … bc so frustrated:
        Much of what ails the world is the f**king forceful and abusive nature of Men, or more specifically a very DISTORTED masculine/patriarchal paradigm. The distortion creates very little understanding of the true nature of Power and how to Empower others, themselves, and the whole interconnected system of existence. A good book on this subject is Power vs. Force. This man is a scourge on the planet and his actions, along with many more before him, have polluted and tainted the good, and the true essence of valuable LIFE. If women were equal collaborators in running this planet (if not fully empowered to do so) this world would be a whole different place to exist. With almost every important/dire issue that is ever brought up I ultimately feel incredibly angry and frustrated by a masculine dominated/oriented world (but things are slowly changing). Okay, stepping off soapbox …. (again)

      • delorb says:

        @Crumpet,

        Me four. I don’t watch the news either. There is just too much and the news media seems to take delight in telling us all of it. My local newscaster starts his broadcast with, “good evening friends”, then goes on to report the most horrifying stuff imaginable. I would never tell any of my friends those stories.

    • Lotal says:

      +1000000

  4. Cee says:

    Poor Nate, feeling the public and media consequences for treating a woman like an object, not caring about her personal authority, and then proceeding to diminish her experience with rape.

    Go cry an ocean, Nate. I don’t care if his movie is great, some people are not worth supporting with our disposable income and admiration.

  5. Sixer says:

    To be forgiven, you have to confess. Simples. To be rehabilitated, you have to be accountable. Simples. He’s done neither, so the opprobrium aimed at him won’t go away any time soon. Simples.

    Y’know, as a changed man and remorseful man, he could really have become a spokesperson for changing attitudes and from there improving the safety of women. And then he might well have found that people actually are willing to forgive even horrendous crimes. As it is, he deserves all the crap sent his way.

    • littlemissnaughty says:

      Oh come on now, you’re being so unfair to the poor man. He had DAUGHTERS! He supports them and his mom and his wife. He did his part.

      • Sixer says:

        This part of it never ceases to amaze me. It’s not show and tell where you say Look! Here is my daughter! and everyone makes a mental association and believes immediately that you must therefore have had a Damascene conversion.

        Rather, it always makes me think – what the hell have your daughters got to do with it? Are you telling us you didn’t rape THEM? Well, matey, I don’t like you much but even I hadn’t gone there.

        It just says to me that he is STILL using women.

        I’m sure that’s not what he was wanting people to think but y’know. Daughters aren’t anti-venom. They’re daughters and should be left far, far away from their father’s sexually criminal past, thankyouverymuch.

      • littlemissnaughty says:

        Every time he mentions them I think oh dear god, these girls have to go to school. They will read about all the terrible things their father said and did. I wonder how you reconcile that with a man who – presumably – was a good father and loves you. I don’t even doubt he loves and supports his daughters but if he truly understood what happened and what he did, he wouldn’t have mentioned them at all. He wouldn’t have wanted them anywhere near this.

      • Sixer says:

        Indeed. As it is, he has just used them as props in his faux rehabilitation routine, thus doubling down on his use of women for his own purposes and failure to see them as actual people.

      • La Ti Da says:

        He brought his six year old daughter to act as a buffer in an interview where he knew the subject would come up. What did he expect to happen if the interviewer did his job and asked him about it? I guess he can always just point at her and say “look I’m around her all time and never raped her, not even once!”

      • MC2 says:

        Sixer- that is a really good point. He doesn’t talk about what he could/will do to make the world a safer place for his daughters but talks about them in relation to him. And I totally agree that when speaking about your rape case you might want to keep your children out of it. Blech.

    • byland says:

      Thank you!

      There are a few men involved in the organization I work with who have background involved on the opposite side of sexual assault. The difference is they owned up to what they did, paid the price, and are now trying to stop the cycle of violence. It’s not community service, it’s time they take on their own to change the world for the better. Nate Parker could learn many things from them.

      Little boy needs to sit down and shut his mouth unless it’s to finally admit his sins and apologize.

      • Sixer says:

        EXACTLY. I would accept this man and his film on that basis. I honestly would.

        I actually contribute to a charity that works with ex-cons (gangs rather than sex crimes) to make short films about their crimes and why they were wrong and steps younger men could take to avoid the same path. Some of the work is really powerful.

        That Parker hasn’t even gone anywhere near anything like that speaks volumes.

      • Bonzo says:

        This is my biggest issue with Nate Parker. He whines and complains that a horrendous crime he committed 17 years ago is now ruining HIS life, full of so much potential, without regard to his victim whose life was ruined due to his actions. Well buddy, you should have owned up to your crime 17 years ago, taken the consequences and shown true remorse by working to expose the rape culture we live in and break the cycle of violence against women.

        I can forgive anyone who shows true remorse and who makes amends for what they’ve done, but Nate clearly has done neither.

      • Crumpet says:

        I am heartened to hear that there are men who redeem themselves in that way, I had no idea. Wow, that is powerful.

      • Sixer says:

        That’s a narcissist for you, Bonzo. They can only see the rest of the world in terms of how it affects them.

      • Wren says:

        I don’t know if he’s even a narcissist. This is the behavior of a little boy. Children do this, the whining about how their actions have made life hard for them without admitting any wrongdoing. They’re blameless, it’s everyone else who is mean! It’s the behavior of someone who is used to doing as they wish and never having to say sorry. Saying sorry is hard, and admitting your sins is hard, and if you’ve had no practice at either it makes it especially hard, especially when the stakes are so high. It makes for a ponderous ego, to be sure, but I classify that differently than a true narcissist.

        He’s a spoiled child, unaccustomed to being called out and questioned in such a fashion.

      • HH says:

        That’s a good story to hear. And that’s also my issue with Parker. Not only that he wants forgiveness without being held accountable; but, the logical disconnect of wanting forgiveness while insisting he did nothing wrong. Wanting forgiveness while maintaining innocence. You can’t have it both ways.

      • Sixer says:

        Precisely, HH. This is why convicted prisoners who maintain their innocence don’t get parole and have to win an appeal to be released before the end of their sentence.

      • byland says:

        @Sixer and @Wren: Why don’t we split the difference and say that he’s a narcissistic little boy? He’s clearly all about himself and most certainly is not a man, so I don’t have a problem labeling him as such,

        And @Sixer, your charity sounds amazing, as well. I’m always moved when people who have commuted crimes turn their lives and around and then, instead of just moving on and getting on with things, take the time to use their experiences to try to improve the future for everyone. It takes true strength and character to own up to your actions publicly and do what you can to try make sure the cycle stops with you. I freely admit I was uncomfortable with some of the men in my group at first, what with my history, but I have grown to have genuine respect and admiration for them.

        @Crumpet and @HH, it’s a really well organized, comprehensive set-up. I work with several groups in town and we’ve kind of managed to bridge them all together, sort of, so that if one group has someone who needs something they can’t provide they can call up and get them taken care of without any red tape or bargaining. Everyone involved truly wants the best for the people they work with and I couldn’t be more proud of the work we do.

        The men I was referring to earlier do community outreach. They can’t go to schools to speak, most of them, as they’re registered sex offenders but a few of them have received special dispensation from the courts to talk with juvenile offenders who seem to be heading in abusive directions in the hopes of being able to show them the error of their ways before it’s too late, They work with the the at-risk youth in conjunction with therapists and their reports go right along with their case worker’s and therapist’s to the judge in each particular case and are considered with just as much weight. It was an uphill battle getting the program set up and it’s still very much in it’s infancy, but so far the results are very promising.

        They also work with our family counseling at times, to help men and women who are maybe emotionally and/or mentally abusive how slippery the slope can be.

        I also (clearly) agree with you all. Without repentance there can be no redemption. Parker very obviously thought that there was no problem with casting himself in the lead role of a film whose plot is kicked off by a rape. The ego involved with that is astounding in my opinion. And continuing to try and deflect from his actions by holding up the fact that he has daughters is beyond despicable as far as I’m concerned. The woman he raped was someone’s daughter, too, but I guess that doesn’t fit his narrative.

      • Shelley says:

        That’s what I think. He needs to own up to it and be a man. If I were in charge of his PR, that’s what I would be telling him. Admit your damn guilt. Then go on the church and university tour and let us all have a dialog.

    • Wren says:

      You know, after reading the first interview, where he says good words about women and respect and all that……. I had some hope of penitence. Maybe he was changed, maybe he realized the full horror of what he and his friend had done when he looked as his daughters. Imagined them meeting the type of boy he was and felt deep fear. Maybe he really was sorry.

      But, alas no, it seems not. He’s a sad panda now because unlike a couple decades ago, we’re not just going to let slide the rape and subsequent hounding of the victim to her death. And unlike a couple decades ago, there is no covering it up and nowhere to hide. Bet he didn’t count on that back then.

    • HH says:

      Thank you for this.

      Also, between solipsism and opprobrium, I’ve learned two new words today. 🙂

    • Bridget says:

      As it is, if he truly feels passionate about this movie he needs to step away from the whole thing. He needs to really accept responsibility, and then go away so that the hard work of so many other people can be recognized if it is deserving. Go away dude. The arrogance of ‘this is the only time I’m going to talk about this’ is so breathtaking, I can’t believe he would say that, and now as long as he is the front person for this movie it will forever be tainted.

    • Tiffany :) says:

      I completely agree.

      I really was looking forward to this film. I wanted to see this subject matter as told by black film makers. I thought the visuals in the still shots look stunning. I am not familiar with the individual that Nate plays in the film, and I wanted to see his story brought to life.

      I can’t support a person who commits such a crime and fails to recognize it, though. If he had just owned what happened and his own failings and mistakes, I think we would be in a different place now. I wonder if legal advise keeps him from admitting his crime…but then I think back to his behavior after the rape, when he was stalking and harassing the victim, and I realize that excuse doesn’t hold water. He’s just totally unaccountable.

      • jeanpierre says:

        Same for me, Tiffany. It’s really sad that movie has been sabotaged. I don’t believe there’s a conspiracy against Parker but I do believe the execs treated the matter very lightly, purposefully or not this is sabotage. They had one job. I won’t see this movie now because all I think about is that poor dead girl. I was very curious about it because I’ve heard about the old movie, that it was a major piece for white supremacists so I was really surprised at first to see it celebrated and then I learned a whole lot of things. I really wanted to see and support that movie, now it’s all soiled beyond repair.

        Even if he owned it and was trying to make amend with actions. The fact the he currently works with his accomplice, the rape scenes in the movie (I read there was two, one explicit and one implied) with that background and the victim being dead make him unforgivable in my book. He had 13 years for attempting to repair part of the damage he’s done. He must have been too busy studying faith and making daughters I guess. Well now it’s too late forever.
        And he isn’t even doing that anyway. His whiny little speech is repulsive. I’m sure he is so sorry the victim isn’t alive anymore to harass her into making forgiving statements about him. How dare she, make him look so bad killing herself!
        Enjoy that so predictable and well-deserved backlash now, NP and studio. It means you’re alive.

  6. greenmonster says:

    Yeah sure, a conspiracy. I guess the conspiracy started 17 years ago and the alleged victim was probably in on it too.

    • JWQ says:

      OMG, she was SO into it! She even killed herself because she wanted to destroy him. That’ s dedication to the cause! You don’ t really believe she did it because she was devastated by being used, abused, stalked, then dismissed as a slut who had it coming, and forced to see his rapists thrive and succeed, right? That’ s totally feminazi propaganda!

    • Scal says:

      Yea and it was on his wikipedia page for years. AND it was brought up during other interviews when he was ‘only’ acting in them-this came up during the press for the great debaters back in 2007. Nearly 10 years ago. It’s only blowing up more now because he’s on a bigger stage and it was one of the biggest bidding wars out of Sundance. It’s not like it was a big secret and no one had a problem with it.

      What the issues are is that 1) he still thinks he did nothing wrong 2) that totally tone deaf interview with Deadline that HE wanted, that FOX wanted-to get ahead of the story where they just made it all about awards awards awards, 3) once the transcripts came out it wasn’t about oh awards, but how did this person get off scott free in the first place?

  7. Bridget says:

    You know who else he owes an apology to? All of the people that worked on that movie and believed in that story. They thought they were doing something meaningful, and instead their good work is being overshadowed by Parker ‘ past catching up finally.

  8. Nicole says:

    I hate the conspiracy theories. It’s ridiculous. It’s out now because you’re more famous and we aren’t giving rapists free passes. Esp since this went down at penn st.
    There are black men on Twitter shouting conspiracy by black femnazis and I had to tell a few that those black “femnazis” are also protesting night after night for black men and started BLM. It’s enraging that black men still don’t hold down their women like women do for them.

    At the end of the day I’m not supporting a black man over women’s bodies

  9. littlemissnaughty says:

    All due respect, Al Sharpton needs to get the timeline straight. Because Nate Parker is responsible for the timing of it all. He presented this sh*tshow to us on a silver platter. No publicist in the world could’ve thought that that wouldn’t start the digging. And his friend was convicted. Nobody in the world will convince me that there are two men and only one of the is guilty. At the VERY least, Parker stood by while the girl was raped. He did more but technically, that is the VERY least he did.

    Also, I suspect the African American community has their own issues with this entire thing and has no time to loudly support a poor little rapist who’s wallowing in self-pity.

    • greenmonster says:

      Exactly. Parker had consensual sex with the girl and his friend raped her, while Parker was still in the room? That would at least mean, he didn’t help the victim and let his friend rape her. How is that in any way better?

      • Londerland says:

        @Greenmonster – yes!! This is one detail that I want to tattoo on the forehead of every single person who says “Oh he was found not guilty, let it drop”. (One detail of many, I should say.)

        If you accept the court’s decision that Nate Parker was not guilty you have to accept that Celestin *was* guilty – which means that Nate Parker was happy to let his friend rape an unconscious woman. That alone is an utterly despicable act.

        If you choose to believe that both Parker and Celestin engaged in consensual sex with the woman (who later lied), then the court’s verdict of guilty must be dismissed as incorrect – which means you don’t get to cite the court’s *other* verdict as a reason to let the whole thing drop.

    • Mogul says:

      Al Sharpton should speak up only, after he knows all the facts. Especially, if he’s speaking for the black community. Sometimes, he makes the whole community look like fools.

      • Kitten says:

        Do you see him as speaking for the entire black community? Because I don’t.
        At best, I see him speaking on behalf of a segment of the black community.
        At worst, I see him speaking for himself.

      • Mogul says:

        No, i don’t but every news outlet considers his perspectives as the perspective of the black community.

      • caitlinK says:

        I hate how Al Sharpton has seemed to elect himself as “the” voice of the black community; I dislike everything about him. As with all the subjects he gravitates to, for him this is only about race baiting and acquiring more money. He does speak for himself only–he has both his own opinions and his own motives for speaking them, that are disconnected from empathy and from other people. A hypocrite if ever I’ve seen one.

    • chaine says:

      Rev. Sharpton is such an incredible hypocrite… He of all people, as the advocate for Tawana Brawley, OUGHT to be talking about how difficult it is for sexual assault survivors to find people to believe their stories, and how awful it is that rapists go unpunished because people don’t believe the victims…

  10. Natalie S says:

    Can someone sit Nate Parker down and tell him no one gives a crap how he feels?

    And then someone tell Al Sharpton that too.

  11. grabbyhands says:

    Do I think there would have been more apologists if he was white? Probably-see Woody Allen. Unfortunately you only get a pass for being a rapist if you’re not a minority.

    However-he is still a rapist and he employed his rapist buddy to work on his film. He’s basically blamed the victim more than once, blamed his youth, blamed right wing conspiracy-blamed everyone and everything but himself for the rape. But we’re supposed to understand because he’s all like, sad and stuff.

    • Jess says:

      R.Kelly and Mike Tyson have both gotten passes and have plenty of apologists

      • grabbyhands says:

        Good point. I stand corrected.

      • Lama Bean says:

        Excellent point. And R Kelly is THE worst. But people still buy his music-correction, bought his music, because he’s not relevant anymore- under the guise of “well he makes such great music”.

      • Kitten says:

        OJ Simpson got away with murder. I hate to be a broken record but I need to remind people that the LAPD came to OJ’s house EIGHT times because of DV. The white police officers all but facilitated Nicole’s murder.

        I do agree though that white criminals absolutely have it better than black criminals. But wealth and fame trumps all.

      • Samtha says:

        Bill Cosby got a pass for 40 years of raping people before it finally hit the fan. And yet, I still see people trying to excuse him or claim it’s some big conspiracy.

      • hogtowngooner says:

        I still can’t believe Tyson was on Law & Order SVU played a rape victim! I was astonished to see that. And he is a convicted rapist!

    • Goats on the Roof says:

      Woody Allen gets a ton of shit from a ton of people, as he deserves. A very small group of idiots continues to work with him and support him as he (supposedly, I don’t actually watch his movies) remakes the same crap film over and over. Even people in Hollywood speak out against him anytime he has a film out.

      The difference is not that WA is a white male, it’s that his crime took place so long ago and wasn’t prosecuted so the evidence isn’t there in black and white like it is for Nate Parker. That, and WA slandered his victim as a confused child whose “story” was coached by a vindictive mother. There are plenty of people who think WA is creepy as all getout and should be behind bars.

      • grabbyhands says:

        Respectfully, I would disagree-at least a bit.

        I think the number of people that have been REALLY vocal about WA has been fairly small, comparatively. Many more people fall back on the “Well, I wasn’t there, so I don’t know, I just know he was great to work with” trope. He still makes movies and still collects accolades for his work. And probably will for a number of years to come.

      • Samtha says:

        I wonder…if the situations with Polanski and Allen had occurred today, with social media the way it is, would things have gone so well for them in the court of public opinion? It was much easier for Hollywood to protect and rally around corrupt men then than it is now (not that things are great or perfect now…).

      • jeanpierre says:

        But the Cosby rapes happened quite long ago, also, no? And it’s likely that some type of situations kept occurring behind close doors of those who got away with it. To me those three man are equally monsters but I can’t help but notice only one of them has been spectacularly shut down by the industry. And I’m pretty sure Bill Cosby held more pure popularity and fame than Allen or Polanski before it all blew up. I’m also pretty sure Allen and Polanski gain way more haters than fans at every mention of their name with the raise of awareness. “They” can cut them out too, they just don’t do it.
        OJ got away with DV and then murder because he was the ultimate idol but he still ended up in jail big time.
        R. kelly gets big backlash, I remember a massive Q&A debacle some time ago and not a peep since? And does Tyson have a current career? I’m not sure about these two, they don’t make news at all anymore in my country.
        Johnny Depp’s image is mildly hurt, I think if he ends up cut off it will be for unreliability and not because of his well documented gore case of DV.
        Now everyone is out for Parker’s head and it’s too soon to say but I don’t see how they can make their way out of this.
        Don’t get me wrong, I’m not minimizing anyone’s actions nor considering any of them a victim. I’m just saying some of them get what they deserve and some do not. It’s always a great day when a longtime unscathed criminal gets his karma and causes conversation but I’m still discerning an uncomfortable pattern here.

    • Cee says:

      Chris Brown still has a career. Yes, he did not rape, but we all remember Rihana’s face.

    • tealily says:

      I think he doesn’t have more apologists because he’s still kind of a nobody. Hopefully this means he will stay that way.

    • Bridget says:

      You know what’s the big equalizer here? Fame. Nate Parker is facing consequences because he isn’t protected by the shroud of a public image. The American public hasn’t already projected its hopes and dreams on him, nor is he protected by a team of highly paid professionals.

  12. Mia4S says:

    Sigh…yes you piece of trash, clearly the “Hollywood conspiracy” invited two other men into a room to rape an unconscious woman and later stalked and harassed her. Yeah that wasn’t you at all. 🙄

    Why did it come out now? No one gave a damn who you were before that’s why. And because you tried to set yourself as some kind of crusading hero. You’re not. The African American community deserves better.

  13. roses says:

    How is it a conspiracy when it was him and Fox Searchlight who decided that it would a good idea to do a sit-down interview with both Deadline & Variety to get ahead of all the stories about the rape and trial. Plus its not like the story is just coming out to bring him down as he wants to claim, it was talked about before when he was in the Great Debaters and Beyond the Lights. Matter of fact in 2007 he had the nerve to state in an interview that “If I had it my way, it never would be brought up again.” So there’s no conspiracy going on here.

  14. HK9 says:

    So the African-American community is supposed to blindly follow him no matter what? As a black woman, I find that ridiculous.

    • Lama Bean says:

      Situations like this are always stark reminders that some of my black male friends are so willfully blind and ignorant to women’s issues. One of my guy friends made the exact argument as Al Sharpton and I just looked at him sideways and walked away.

      He doesn’t want to learn. He doesn’t care. and I’ve been friends with him for 15 years.

      • Crumpet says:

        Time to find new friends.

      • Mia4S says:

        I’m fascinated by the sudden faith in the court system that Al Sharpton and more than a few defenders have developed. “He was acquitted! Condemning his actions is conspiracy!” Funny…I recall a number of white police officers and one George Zimmerman who were all acquitted in the past few years. Hmmmm. I was still extremely disturbed and upset as were many others but clearly we should not have been. We were clearly being unfair! It was all a conspiracy! After all…they were acquitted. 🙄

      • Betsy says:

        It’s funny to me (funny-sad, not funny-ha ha) that though there be huge cultural differences between black and white culture, that the utter cluelessness and obtuseness of men crosses all societal, racial and religious boundaries. Men get to be clueless about this, so they continue to be clueless.q

    • The Original Mia says:

      I had a guy attack me because I said people were no longer buying the excuses men make for having sex with drunk/unconscious men. I had a black woman state that she felt it was a conspiracy too. I wanted to reach through my screen and slap her. I schooled both of them to the fact Parker and Foxlight thought they would get ahead of the story by shaping their own narrative. No conspiracy. Just a poorly thought out, manipulative PR strategy that rightfully backfired.

    • I Choose Me says:

      Ridiculous and enraging. Not surprised that idiot Al Sharpton is defending him. As far as we still have to go to address racism, we have even farther to go when it comes to sexism and rape culture.

  15. Lama Bean says:

    Add this Washington Post article to the heap. She argues that he was acquitted, so we should stop calling him a rapist.

    What this article did was make me realize that the stalking and harassment of someone speaking out is what makes me angriest. I couldn’t imagine being unable to go anywhere without them following me and screaming obscenities.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/08/23/stop-calling-nate-parker-a-rapist/

    • Cora says:

      That article in the Washington Post is written be Cathy Young. She’s a notorious anti-feminist and is always awful.

      • Lama Bean says:

        Ah, didn’t know this. Had never seen her work in Wapo. Thanks for that info.
        I went to bed last night livid that someone would write something so stupid. It’s literally stupid.

    • Sam says:

      I think Cathy Young made some good points about what should be the consequences of an acquittal in so far as non-celebrities go. What Nate Parker doesn’t seem to understand is that the legal consequences are not the only thing that matters for a high profile public figure who wants to be loved and respected. His trial wasn’t deciding “who did it?” like the trial of the Central Park Five, who were eventually exonerated. Maybe the jury thought that Nate’s actions didn’t reach the legal standard of rape in PA. Well, even if he didn’t “rape” her, he still acted deplorably. There is gray area in the question of how drunk is too drunk to consent. Nate needs to acknowledge to himself and the world that Jane Doe was drunk that night and felt violated afterward. No more of this “unambiguously consensual” BS. The public can’t offer forgiveness until he admits wrongdoing.

  16. AlleyCat says:

    Yes, just total bad luck that you raped someone and now people know about it. Ugh, life is hard for you, man.

  17. H says:

    I hope the guy’s career crashes and burns. While I’d love to see the movie, I won’t, because supporting it means supporting Parker. Just like I boycott other rapists like Allen and Polanski, Parker goes on my list too. I don’t care what colour he is, in the end, he’s still rapist scum whose actions caused another human being to eventually commit suicide. I don’t care how ‘sad’ he is. I’m sure his victim was sad too.

  18. Jess says:

    “He’s disappointed over the backlash on social media and that the African-American online community hasn’t been more supportive”

    Meanwhile, the african-american woman he victimized took her own life but let’s all feel sad for poor Nate, the RAPIST. Jesus Christ, he is a real piece of work.

    • Cee says:

      Black man > black woman.
      And this goes for every ethnicity.
      Men are always considered to have more worth than us women.

    • FingerBinger says:

      The victim was white. That’s another reason why Parker and Sharpton think there’s a conspiracy.

    • Nicole says:

      The victim is white so it’s like a dog whistle to past tropes of black men with white women. But in this case the actions afterwards are enough to turn my stomach

  19. ElleBee says:

    I’m black and I believe that there are some conspiracies against us HOWEVER this is NOT one of them. Do white criminals get a free pass more often than black ones do? Of course, but that doesn’t mean that the black community should defend him because of his skin colour. Nate, you are a rapist, that’s not a conspiracy. You know who else is at a low point? Your victim, if fact she got so low that she took her own life.

    The shield he uses that he has a mother, a wife and daughters annoys me. Every rapist in history was born to a woman. That is how birth works my dear, you also didn’t choose the gender of your children, and you are homophobic making your choice of life partner an obvious one.

    I unfortunately jumped down the rabbit hole of reading the transcripts (wish I didn’t). Apart from all of the other things that disgusted me one that stood out is him saying that she didn’t seem like “girlfriend material.” Suggesting to me that he never saw her as a person, she was, from the start a pair of legs to get between. To me it was as if after defiling her then she was no longer good enough for him and his nasty friends.

    I also find myself wondering how his costars and everyone else that has interacted with him really feels.

    • Tourmaline says:

      I saw the “she’s not someone I would date” thing too. As I said on a different post on him it is not solely the rape aspect that he recruited his buddy Celestin on, it is also the campaign to gaslight, terrorize, and destroy the victim after the fact. The Birth of a Nation is certainly not the first major “project” that this POS and fellow POS Celestin collaborated on.

      • ElleBee says:

        I agree. The rape was horrific enough but his behaviour and attitude afterwards (then and now) really bothers me. The invitation for his friends to join in makes me physically ill. Not only did he feel entitled enough to help himself to her body but he felt that he could share her. He is the lowest of low.

      • Tiffany :) says:

        “The Birth of a Nation is certainly not the first major “project” that this POS and fellow POS Celestin collaborated on.”

        Wow, that was harsh and powerful. Well summarized.

    • Crumpet says:

      Oh God, how sickening (all of it, but the ‘not girlfriend material’ is just too much). That poor poor girl. She was incredibly brave to go after him and his buddies – a martyr if you will, because it destroyed her.

    • Bob says:

      The entire story of their interaction is so sad. The blow job she gave him because she wanted him to like her. Him showing up two hours late for their date. Just thinking about how much she probably liked him. Him knowing it, knowing he didn’t reciprocate, but totally taking advantage of her anyway. Trying to manipulate her in the phone call, oh sure you don’t remember the sex we had at night, but remember that sex we had in the morning, yeah, girl, that was really special to me.

      He’s still that same guy. He’s just learned how to avoid rape charges since then.

      • Esmom says:

        It’s incredibly sad. And you bring up a good point, this was probably not an isolated incident. I knew guys like that in college and just like them he makes my skin crawl.

        The other thing that enrages me to think about is I’m guessing his team is encouraging him to just lie low, that the storm will blow over. And then it will just be back to business as usual.

    • Jen says:

      Oh my god, I cannot believe that was said. Not only for the disgusting, stomach turning attitude that so many have-that if a woman isn’t your classic “good girl,” she’s just to be used for sex-but it’s truly unbelievable someone would say that when being questioned about a rape. Unbelievable.

      • Wren says:

        Not really. It was a different time then and I highly doubt he ever expected his words to go public. He was probably telling the honest truth there. I’ve heard guys talk like that many times, even otherwise intelligent and thoughtful guys. I wouldn’t expect them to say such things in public nowadays, but to their buddies? Yeah. For sure.

    • mia125 says:

      @ElleBee, I also wonder how his co-stars feel about this whole thing; especially Gabrielle Union who has actually been a victim of rape herself in real life.

  20. Abigail says:

    Thanks, Kaiser, for the excellent article and the links. He doesn’t seem to realize how disastrous and tone-deaf the Deadline article really was. His own words in describing the rape as something that “happened to him” were outrageous. And of course there was his invitation to his two friends to join in the attack on the unconscious woman (only one, Celestin, accepted) and then his mobilizing of his friends at Penn State to stalk and harass her.
    He is obviously trying to pass it off as drunken sex, “unambiguously consensual”–all of which suggests that he has not come to terms with his own horrific behavior. Maybe he needs to talk to a minister (not Rev. Al) about true repentance, which begins with facing one’s actions honestly.

  21. Jude says:

    Waaaaaa cry me a river, Nate Parker. You are obviously not remorseful or reformed.

  22. Tourmaline says:

    I believe it is a conspiracy = I am too arrogant and or dumb to comprehend and accept the facts of the situation.

  23. PennyLane says:

    The only question that I have at this point is how much is 20th Century Fox paying Al Sharpton to give these interviews. Speaking of conspiracies.

  24. Lama Bean says:

    How can you distance yourself from your former wrestling teammate, roommate, co-defendant, cowriter, and friend of 17 years?

    You’d have better luck distancing yourself from your siblings.

  25. Krakken says:

    Nate Parker
    If you want to “get ahead” of this then donate 100% of your profits from this film in perpetuity to survivors charities.
    That way I can watch a movie that is likely worth watching without worrying that my money is going to you, a rapist.
    You should have changed your name but I suppose arrogance would have stopped that.
    I feel for the cast and crew who worked in your film and don’t deserve to be associated with the legacy of the rape/ harassment /suicide of a woman. I will watch the film but I will be watching a pirated copy to be sure.
    I am cheered by the fact that Nate Parker is feeling “low”. But I am guessing his” low” is still miles above 6 feet under.

  26. NotSoSocialButterfly says:

    Ah, gee whiz, poor Nate. I feel so sorry for him.

    NOT.

  27. Jayna says:

    He said it was consensual. He can’t get past it being
    a drunken night he said/she said because his story falls apart. He knew he was banging a person so incapacitated and out of it that he waved over to friends to come sexually assault her. He is the one encouraging a gang bang of this girl because of her condition.

    Disgusting, vile, to have the desire to treat this human being as an object for your perversion and fun. Hey, guys, come on in and have some of this, too.

    Then he’s facing a rape charge, a huge deal and could destroy his future. So, hey, let’s out her on campus, stalk her, have her called vile names, intimidate her, drive her to a suicide attempt during all this to clear my good name.

    He sees it as he and his friend were never guilty and she tried to ruin him. Me, me, me came out in that Deadline article. He always forgets there was a witness in that trial who gives us a window into what really happened. Nate inviting two men in to violate her with him.

  28. TyrantDestroyed says:

    Awwww poor man, he’s feeling very low. Well, I wonder if he ever realized that the woman he raped years ago felt even worse, enough to take her own life, not because she could not earn an Oscar but only because her life was destroyed by him.

  29. Noosa says:

    RIP his victim , after reading the link above for case proceedings.
    I can’t find any sympathy for you Nate. The public opinion of you today is a fair punishment for what you have done to this poor girl back then.
    May all your movies fails.

  30. Bob says:

    I’d like to suggest a new PR strategy for Mr. Parker that will truly test his acting abilities.

    “What I did 17 years ago was horrible. Drunk on alcohol and a sense of entitlement, I raped a young woman. Rape culture had taught me that I could take what I wanted from this woman who obviously liked me. Rape culture had taught me that as long as she wasn’t trying to scratch my eyes out, she was enthusiastically consenting. I learned these lessons too well, and I callously violated her. When she later complained, I treated her injury with contempt. I thought she was the one not playing by the rules, and I zealously defended myself against her righteous attempts to have me held accountable because I truly believed I had done nothing wrong.

    It’s taken me a long time to accept how wrong I was. I’m still not there, in truth. Because rape culture has been my friend and supporter along the way. Rape culture got me acquitted by a jury of my peers. Rape culture made it easier to file away under he said/she said drunken college antics and move on with my life. Rape culture made me believe that I could bury the story of the rape in a single interview with Deadline. But a lot has changed in society over the past 17 years, and rape culture isn’t as powerful as it used to be.

    There’s been talk of conspiracy, that interest in 17 year old rape charges isn’t sincere, it’s just a way of derailing attention away from a serious conversation about our nation’s history of slavery and all the damage it has caused. I’d like to believe that is true, because then I could feel like a righteous man. But it’s not. There is no conspiracy. As I’ve prayed and reflected during these emotional times, I realize that it is the Grace of God calling me to account for my hubris. I thought I could promote a movie and lead a conversation about long ago suffering that still impacts our society today at the same time I was asking people to dismiss or ignore my own injurious acts. I wanted to ask white people to go through an uncomfortable assessment, without leading by example. And God has called me out for my foolishness, for not recognizing my own sins and weakness, for demanding that others repent for the sins of their ancestors while I was refusing to repent for my own actions.

    I wish I were a better man in this moment. I wish I were the man I imagined myself to be one month ago. Because I desperately do want to be the man who could lead a conversation about Nat Turner’s rebellion and the lasting impacts of slavery in our culture. But I realize now that I don’t get to be that man if I’m not willing to have a conversation about rape, and the damage that I have personally inflicted. It’s too late for me to ask my victim for forgiveness. But I hope that society will give me a chance to repent.”

  31. Elle says:

    I wanted to support this movie so badly but now every mention of it makes me seethe with rage. I feel badly for the other cast and crew but I feel worse for the victim who never received justice.

  32. NGBoston says:

    Preferential treatment lavished upon star athletes in Colleges can lead to many problems, so called “date-rape” being just one of them.

    Just because any young woman choses to spend some time socializing with one of them does not give ANY of these men the right to force any type of sex without mutual consent. Inebriated or straight.

    With that being said, ‘Conspiracy’, my Arse.

    • Sam says:

      This is part of a disturbing trend that goes beyond date rape. There have been repeated instances of group rape where one athlete offers his “date” to his teammates. It happened in Steubenville and Vanderbilt as well. I think it’s significant that Nate Parker and Jean Celestin were both wrestlers, and the student who refused to participate wasn’t on the wrestling team.

  33. Loo says:

    A PR move completely backfired and Parker believes that a conspiracy is afoot. Yes minorities are treated harsher by the media, I will not deny that but Parker brought this backlash onto himself by doing that Deadline interview. In this case I don’t see a conspiracy, I see a huge miscalculation by Parker’s team. They should have bever tried to get ahead of the story the way that they did.

    • Jayna says:

      This. He hurt himself not only by doing that interview but how he presented himself as the victim. Then the interview accompanied by his six-year-old daughter was such a blatant ploy.

  34. Oatmeal says:

    Ahhhhh. The old Hotepian “its a conspiracy.to.suppress the.black man!” Argument

    By hotep, I mean that strain of black.men who fashion themselves the descendents of Egyptian “Kangs” and queens, who are seemingly.socially “woke” and against.white supremacy, but they arent really interested in black liberation. They essentially want a black male patriarchy to replace the white male patriarchy, gays and women be damned.

    Hoteps are usually virulently homophobic (peep.nate’s comments on not playing a gay man so as to not “weaken the black man”)

    Hoteps also love to silence women’s issues, specifically.black.women’s issues with black men because its “divisive”

    Issues like black.women more likely to be molested,.raped and murdered by black men

    Issues like rampant.mysgynoir among black men

    Issues like black women historically and currently leading social justice movements for.black.men, but when black.women are.killed? Crickets

    Issues like when black male stars are accused and.found doing wrong, black hoteps.are the first ones.to.say stupid crap.like “its a conspiracy!” Or “but this caucasian star.did xy and z and.got away with it , why cant R.Kelly/ Nate Parker/ Cosby/ Chris Brown?”

    Because as I said, hoteps arent really interested.in.freedom or justice, they cover the power , status and priviledge.of.white men to abuse with relative impunity.

    • I Choose Me says:

      Didn’t know there was a term for them. I have zero patience for those types. Also stumbled across this interesting piece, thanks to your mention.

      https://thenib.com/the-hotep-problem

    • a reader says:

      Thank you for explaining this. I only use one social media app and it’s not twitter, which seems to me a cesspool.

      I am aware of black twitter and it’s sub genres – some on a superficial level and some I have a deep understanding of. I’ve seen this term a few times now, especially in this Parker convo, and didn’t have the time to research yet. Thanks for your explanation.

      Might I ask to those who may be reading that are POCs, is it appropriate for me as a white woman to do anything other than listen to that conversation? Is it appropriate for me to use this term or would it be seen as being insensitive? Please help me out; I’ve been a good ally and I’m trying to learn so that I can be more supportive.

  35. justme says:

    So do Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. I they are “investigating” this vast conspiracy to expose a RAPIST for who he is.

  36. Merritt says:

    He raped a woman and got away with it. He then harassed his victim. It is now known that she committed suicide. He deserves nothing more than misery for what he did.

  37. NeoCleo says:

    This whole thing is so awful. That poor woman. Her life was utterly ruined and I can’t imagine the pain she felt before she decided to end it.

  38. Jennifer says:

    Then please explain to me the continued success of Roman Polanski and woody Allen, 2 white old men and then tell me how we no longer tolerate rapists.

    • FingerBinger says:

      We no longer tolerate rapists but hollywood does. Parker could go on to be very successful. Mike Tyson a black man with a rape conviction is doing well too.

    • Londerland says:

      A lot of people don’t tolerate them. I don’t, not anymore.

      I think with Polanski and Allen, there are differences in how the public perceives their crimes. (Wrongly, I should say before I go on.) Firstly, they were committed prior to the internet era, so both benefited from a certain amount of blurred public awareness of the cases. Polanski raped his victim in the late 70s – I wasn’t yet born, but the story I grew up with was that he was convicted of statutory rape, his victim had since forgiven him, and he left America because the judge wanted to make an example of him. The tone of the story (as he continued to make films in Europe with major stars) was always that, hey, it was the 70s, everyone was banging adolescents, he just got on the wrong side of the judge.

      I accepted that for a long time, until the internet came along and, after falling foul in a debate as to whether it was “just” statutory rape (I KNOW. If I could slap myself I would) I read up on the actual case and found that the reality did not match the public perception. Unfortunately Polanski has the weight of 40 years of rape culture apologia behind him, and a fan base unwilling to address the facts of the case, even though the facts are so readily available.

      Much the same is true of Allen – in his case, he’s benefited from twenty-odd years of PR fudging the issues so that when you talk about how he abused his daughter, a huge number of people still assume you’re referring only to Soon Yi, and they can overlook that because she wasn’t *his*, she was old enough, it wasn’t abuse, it was just crazy Mia who couldn’t take his leaving her…etc, etc. I was a kid at the time, but I read a lot of movie magazines, and I remember only Soon Yi being the focus of the stories, never Dylan. I’ve spoken to people who just don’t follow the news so closely and genuinely never knew that Dylan Farrow existed, much less what she accused him of. Again, as an adult, reading the court documents that are now readily available, even in the light of any inconsistencies in the testimony, I find Woody Allen to be (at best) a shady, creepy, predatory, narcissistic misogynist who destroyed a family to satisfy his own desires, and (at worst) a child rapist. I cannot support him either way. Plenty of people, though, just go “Oh, what, so he married his ex-girlfriend’s daughter. Big deal. That’s Hollywood. Shagging teenagers, that’s just what they do.”

      In short, the general public don’t all go rushing to check up on the alleged crimes of famous men. Polanski and Allen have decades of misinformation, misperception, fame, influence and the inertia of public opinion in their favour. Nate Parker is newly famous, and coming to prominence in an age when nothing escapes attention. If he’d been famous for decades himself, I’m sure the weight of his body of work, the work of publicists, the work of flattering public perception, the cries of “separate the artist and the art” might protect him just as they protect Allen and Polanski. Fame and public adulation protected Bill Cosby too, after all, for a hell of a long time even against dozens of accusations.

      And as I said originally, even Allen and Polanski aren’t so well protected as they used to be. The more people educate themselves on the reality of their crimes, the more the information becomes disseminated, the more people realise what they’ve actually done and stop making excuses for them, the more actors will stop working with them.

      God this was a long post. I hope it makes sense.

  39. Angela says:

    Here is an excellent article I especially like the part where she discusses black women and the expectation that has been put on them to support black men regardless of their behaviour. It is time black women stood up. They have been used for too long to prop up black men. Interesting as well that his wife is white. Tired of black women supporting black men only to be treated as less then by the men.

    http://www.salon.com/2016/08/24/nate-parkers-penn-state-campus-sexual-assault-issues-at-the-center-of-the-birth-of-a-nation-controversy/

  40. chaine says:

    I saw a commercial for this while watching TV last night, so the studio is still going full speed ahead with promotion.

  41. Angela says:

    Jennifer – they still make movies but they also have very nasty articles written about them. I don’t think Roman can enter the states. They lost a lot of support and many people refuse to see their movies . Is that success? same with Nate he will get wealthy supporters for him and will continue to make movies. He may even win an Oscar.

  42. K says:

    There is nothing about this story that isn’t upsetting and gross. I honestly don’t even know where to begin to comment.

    I will say this he isn’t being picked on. He is pathetic to say that “black twitter” should just blindly support him when his actions don’t warrant that.

    I feel so bad for the poor girl she lost her life and that seems to be lost in all this.

    • justme says:

      “black twitter” as opposed to what? “white twitter”

      • K says:

        No there is a group on Twitter called “black twitter” it’s referenced in the article. It’s not black vs white it’s just a phrase used frequently.

        In the Simone Manuel article several newspapers referenced how NBC didn’t give Simone her due and “black twitter” did. Personally I don’t think that’s true I think social media over all did but newspapers referenced black twitter.

        And really the fact that his big issue is that the black social media community isn’t blindly supporting him is upsetting him is the real issue.

  43. Fa says:

    I don’t care he was acquitted I care about the victim who lost her life and haven’t been the same since that fatal night you don’t committed suicide if you were happy in your life. There are lot of black movie open this awards season and have chance to win best picture so I will support these movies

    • TotallyBiased says:

      YES! I can’t wait to see Hidden Figures. Hope it gets a limited run in LA County during the eligibility period.

  44. Frey says:

    Is Sharpton a rapist, too? Or just getting old?

    Hope this guy’s movie gets canned, cancelled everywhere, and he can keep crying about it. Rapists playing victims…to topsy turvy world we live in. Men like this make me sick.

  45. Veronica says:

    Conspiracy, no, but can I understand the frustration of the black community seeing a rising star being outed as a rapist when Woody Allen has thrived for so long? Yeah. I don’t envy the actors involved in this project who are seeing eclipsed by his past. Parker deserves the backlash for his actions, but what a goddamn waste of talent on a shit human being.

  46. Miss S says:

    Nate Parker is sad. GOOD. The sadder the better.

  47. freewhitebaby2.0 says:

    Sorry Einstein but a conspiracy is three misogynistic buttholes getting together and deciding to commit the criminal act of rape on an unconscious woman. You committed conspiracy, not the big players in Hollywood that you’ll never be a part of.now. You can burn, Nate.

  48. Joanie says:

    Awww, poor baby rapist, facing actual repercussions for his actions!

  49. joanne says:

    i have the greatest empathy for the victim and her family. it must be heartbreaking for her family to have this all over the news again and have to relive the pain of losing her.
    also, his poor daughters. i cannot imagine how horrible to find out your father is a rapist who bragged about running a train on an unconscious girl. then to find out that he stalked her and tormented her until she dies of suicide.
    how would you look at your father after that. how would you ask him what is appropriate behaviour from your boyfriends. how would you ever be able to ask him for help if you ever had the dreadful experience of being assaulted knowing his attitudes.
    he has done much damage to his daughters.

  50. Jackie says:

    His hypocrisy is galling.

    ‘It happened a long time ago, so shouldn’t matter’…says the man making a historical film of events from the 1800s.
    Slavery and Nat Turner’s revolt happened a long time ago too, should we just shrug and say ‘Whatevs’ ?

    Also. As a person with the requisite melanin to be considered a part of the black community -I am SO offended and insulted by his insinuations of automatic acceptance of deviance.

    Exactly which part of my biological skin color means I should support the degradation, humiliation and gang rape of a fellow human being?

    No part? Not one, not a single part, Nate? Exactly.

  51. Hazel says:

    Wow, that don’t listen to silly press releases statement from the university spokesman –spokesman, for heaven’s sake — got me. All women should boycott that university. All sports fans should boycott all games. All financial supporters should pull their donations. Hit them in the wallet & maybe they’ll pay attention.

  52. Miss Jupitero says:

    I am playing the smallest violin in the world for this sh*tstain. Sorry for my language, but it is impossible for me to talk about Nate Parker without expletives. The studio should be ashamed.

  53. Bread and Circuses says:

    Yeah, a conspiracy toward a just society, where competent adults are held responsible for their crimes.

    He’s talented *too*, but I don’t think Roman Polanski or Woody Allen should be walking around free either.

    It’s only when the law fails victims that we, society, go for this second-best attempt at justice called ostracizing you.

  54. carriegyrl83 says:

    Sad. Yea right.

  55. Kelly says:

    I’m confused by many of the comments as I thought he was not convicted of anything.

    • joanne says:

      he was found not guilty which is not the same as innocent. try to read the facts of the case. that my clear your confusion.

    • TotallyBiased says:

      Acquitted because he and his victim had been sexually active previously. Because evidently once I have sex with anyone, they have a right to do what they want (including inviting friends along for the ride) the next day whether or not I am sufficiently conscious to consent.

  56. LadyLoo says:

    Conspiracy or reasonable reaction to his vile actions – it’s must be hard for this lying, manipulative, narcissistic POS to tell the difference.

  57. adastraperaspera says:

    I bet if there was video of the travesty Parker “directed” that night, that led to his victim taking her life, it would look a lot like the the security camera evidence from Vanderbilt University, which showed football players (later convicted for rape) carrying their unconscious victim down the hall from room to room, laughing and joking around, and colluding to cover it up. It is depraved. It is sociopathic. It is criminal. It’s way past time to do away with the “boys will be boys” bull**** and make anyone who does this suffer the consequences for the rest of their lives.

  58. Dalgirl says:

    I’ve visited this website many times for entertainment but had never commented before because I didn’t really care to write down an opinion on Taylor Swift or Leonard Dicaprio’s newest play toy. But this topic really disturbs me and I’ll tell you why. I’m a black woman in her late 20s and for the last few years, I’ve seen countless male black celebrities use race as an excuse when they are accused of violence towards women. When men like Nate Parker, Chris Brown, and Ray Rice, are proven to inflict violence towards women, they always seem to bring it back to race. They say that they’re prosecuted not because they committed the crime, but for being black men. They say that if they were a white man who either beat, raped, or even murdered a woman, that they would not be prosecuted (and unforunately in some cases, that is true). In essence, they connect their violent crimes towards women as examples of race inequality. To a black woman like me, they’re saying that all men should have a ‘right’ to do to me whatever they wish, to my body, instead of that ‘right’ just going to white men. Race equality has now changed from being an issue of employment opportunities and government representation, hell just even being allowed to be black in America, to that of all men being allowed to commit violent crimes towards women. For this reason, many African Americans have been pressured to support the Nate Parkers of the world because to not is a betrayal of their race and the support of black discrimination. I have not seen any of Nate Parker’s films, and I do not know him as a person but I just cannot support him and his version of race equality because I am black. To me, rape, sexual assault, and domestic violence is something that has no color. More so, the race of the victim and perpetrator is irrelevant. Are there as many, if not more, white male celebrities that commit violent crimes towards women than black ones? Maybe. Does the media and justice system show favoritism towards white male defendants when it comes to violence towards women? Probably. But as a woman, I would not feel less victimized if I were raped or beaten by a black man than a white man nor would I want less justice. So if I ever met a man like Nate Parker, Chris Brown, or Ray Rice, I would tell them that race equality doesn’t mean you all get a free pass.

    • joanne says:

      that was impressive. thank you for writing that. sexual assault should not be a racial issue. each case should be decided on the facts of what happened. i wish you the best.

    • K.T says:

      Kalgirl: Wow, powerful comment. Thank you.

      Another point… can you imagine the horror the victim would be going through now if she had survived: snide or horrid comments from Nate & supporters, her social media trawled, her medical records used as *reciepts*. All the stalking Parker and black groups that rallied behind him & student Co-rapist except it be times a million and by thousands of rabid fans (like the multi-millionaire advertising BOAN is getting). It’s. just. So. Monstrous 🙁

    • rudy says:

      “To me, rape, sexual assault, and domestic violence is something that has no color. More so, the race of the victim and perpetrator is irrelevant.”

      Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes!!!!!

      What Nate Parker did was inexcusable. Regardless of his Religion, Color, Sex, Hairstyle, Ethnicity, Height, Size, etc. etc etc.

      I am infuriated by his unbelievable inability to show any remorse.