Don’t forget: the Trump White House is being investigated for espionage

I’m enjoying all of year-old footage of Republicans losing their minds over Hillary Clinton being investigated by the FBI. So many Republicans were throwing parties at this time last year, claiming that the FBI investigation into Hillary’s damn emails meant that she shouldn’t be president. Now that their own unhinged lunatic is president and under FBI investigation, most of those same Republicans have gone radio silent. So what else is going on in the political world? Let’s do some highlights:

We need to take a moment and understand the enormity of our situation. Granted, it felt like a national tragedy the day after Trump was elected. It felt like death. It felt like nothing would ever be the same and that our nation had fundamentally shifted. In the months that followed, the media made themselves busy by trying to normalize Trump (only it really didn’t stick). Now this week, we have confirmation from the Director of the FBI that the FBI has been investigating Donald Trump, his people and his campaign since JULY. And the investigation is about a hostile nation’s takeover of our political system. The sitting president of the United States is being investigated. The Trump White House is being investigated for espionage and, presumably, treason. Vox had a great summary on just how huge all of this is.

Remember Paul Manafort? Manafort was the Trump Campaign’s chairman and one of Russia’s first inside-men. Well, Manafort is being sought for questioning by the FBI and Ukrainian authorities. Charge him with treason! LOCK HIM UP.

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer wants to delay the SCOTUS vote. Neil Gorsuch’s Senate confirmation hearing started this week, and a vote to confirm Gorsuch would have likely come later this week or next week. Schumer wants to delay the vote because… Donald Trump is under FBI investigation and we need to be focused on that, basically. I agree! I don’t think Schumer’s plan will work, of course, but I like his effort.

Trumpcare is a mess. Everything about it is a mess. The House votes on the Trumpcare bill tomorrow and no one has an accurate whip count. Some House Republicans are openly defiant, saying they will not vote for it. Some are worried that a vindictive, petty Emperor Baby Fists will exact his revenge if they don’t vote for it. I suspect that the House will manage to barely pass some form of the bill and then it will be DOA when it gets to the Senate.

Trump’s Secretary of Defense is interesting.
SecDef Mattis keeps appointing “Obama veterans” to key Pentagon posts, and Mattis doesn’t seem to want any part of Baby Fists’ “remaking the Pentagon” scheme. That’s interesting.

Secretary of State Rex Tillerson is a mess. I kind of think he absolutely hates his job and he already wants to quit. Apparently, he didn’t even want this job and his wife “convinced” him to take it. He hates NATO so he’s not going to an important NATO meeting next month, but he’ll make it to Russia to get his orders. Such ennui with this one.

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  1. Megan says:

    Tillerson is there to close the $500 billion oil deal with Russia. Once that’s done, he is out of there.

    I hope Mattis is his own man, but we’ll see.

    Schumer has a fair point. According to Republicans, the Senate can’t confirm a SCOTUS nominee in the last year of a presidency, and the FBI investigation seems to be well on its way to making this the last year of Trump’s reign of terror.

    • Lucy2 says:

      Yes on all counts.
      The GOP delay of the Supreme Court was absurd. It still makes me angry.

    • Kitten says:

      They stole the seat. straight-up stole it like the f*cking thugs they are.

      • Shambles says:

        Stole the seat so that it could be filled by a man who stole the presidency.

        Illegitimate as f*ck.

      • PunkyMomma says:

        Yes. This seat belonged to Merrick Garland. I would have love to have seen Gorsuch say to the Judiciary Committe yesterday, “Thanks, but this is Merrick Garland’s hearing. See ya!” (I have to dream — the reality is too terrifying.)

      • Betsy says:

        @punkymomma – you should hear the cockamamie theories I dream about to get through.

      • Lightpurple says:

        And Lindsay Graham, who was on the committee along with Grassley and Lee when they decided against even holding hearings on Garland, is now whining about democrats caring only about party. He makes me want to vomit. Into a plastic bag that I would mail directly to his house.

      • Anesthetizes says:

        Agreed. Party before country, baby.

    • Lucy says:

      Canadian here, what happens if Trump is impeached? A new election or does the VP take over?

      • TheOtherOne says:

        If he impeached and removed, yes the VP takes over.

      • Lama Bean says:

        If it’s only Trump, Pence becomes POTUS (God help us all).

        If it’s the whole administration (which I suspect), not sure. Next in line in Paul Ryan, but I think this is a whole different situation that stretches beyond our constitution.

      • Kitten says:

        Pence becomes president and all our problems are still there.

        Impeachment isn’t a solution and as such it brings me no solace. However, taking back the House after the 2018 mid-term elections could actually reverse this crash course that we are on.

      • Lucy says:

        If there is hard proof that Russia meddled in the election don’t the Dems have a legal leg to force another election?

      • Kitten says:

        @Lucy-But HOW could they prove that? Again, American people came out to vote for Trump. Even if Putin influenced/agitated the election, he didn’t force people to vote for Trump–they did that on their own volition.

        I think people are having trouble grasping the unprecedented nature of invalidating an election and what that could mean to the American people as well as the disruption it would cause to our government. We are already extraordinarily divided in the US and invalidating the election would only exacerbate that and that’s to say nothing of the logistical nightmare it would create.

        Regardless of how much we hate the current administration, we still need a working government to operate this country. Look at how long it’s taking to staff the White House and think about what it would mean to do this all over again. That, and I cannot imagine Congress and the courts signing off on invalidating the election results. No one wants to be the one to set that precedent.

        We’d ALL love a do-over but we need to be realistic about this.

      • jwoolman says:

        I think Congress has to approve Pence’s choice for VP?

        But we will be much better off with Pence despite his terrible policies. He is at least a normal person without attention deficit problems, malignant narcissism, sleep disorders, and total ignorance of how the US government, democracy, and the rest of the world work. He is unlikely to blow up the planet, the biggest bonus. I also think he will dump the neonazis Bannon and Miller.

        We’ll have to fight Pence’s policies, but will be dealing with a sane person at least.

      • Lama Bean says:

        Not unless there is proof of something that actually changed votes after they were cast. There is only one provision in the constitution that protects us from poor choices of voters. This is where the electoral college should have come through, but nooooo…..

      • Louisa says:

        I think this is all new territory here. I don’t believe that there has ever been a time in US history where a sitting president has been accused of conspiring with another country to steal an election. Therefore I don’t think previous rules of impeachment would apply. If trump was impeached and made to resign why should the presidency go to Pence or Ryan? (god help us)
        I think you are right Lucy, if there is proof of the trump campaign actively working with Russia against Clinton the result of the election should be dismissed. However, at that point, the country would explode. Or implode. Basically I see no good outcome in any of this.

      • Lightpurple says:

        @jwoolman And with Pence, Ivanka loses security clearance and NYC and Florida can go back to normal.

      • adastraperaspera says:

        Pence is next in line. And he is a monster like they all are. However–and this is what I cling to–he has none of Tr*mp’s charisma. Zero. Like it or not, the cheeto has the gift of gab and is an entertainer. And his family is like the Hydra. Getting Tr*mp out gets the little monsters out too (including Jared). Pence is a religious nutbag, and my favorite story about him is from a relative who works in a business where he has had frequent professional contact with Pence. This relative, who was a huge Bush conservative, said that Pence is “an assh*ole” who he would rather “punch than look at.” This was amazing to me, because in the past this relative has admired guys who seem very much like Pence to me. I also think Pence is in on all this and that will come to light, so we can knock him off too. We have to. If we can’t get rid of them they change our whole country. And we can’t let that happen.

      • jwoolman says:

        The only reason to invalidate an election is if the votes have definitely been improperly recorded. Just disinformation campaigns are not enough, since the voters have the option to actually think with their brains and not believe everything a conman and wonky web sites and paid trolls tell them. And so being suckered by a conman, even if he is later convicted and tossed in jail, is not enough of a reason to discard the election. The electoral college can decide to vote for someone else than the winner of the electoral votes, just in case such a conman wins, but usually the electors are Party loyalists who would never think of doing that.

        The problem with invalidating the election is that we don’t have the data to know if anybody (Russians or others) meddled with the vote counts. Most of the machines did not have paper backup available to use in a hand count, which really is the only way to definitely verify the vote if machine malfunction or malicious software is suspected, although a forensic examination of the machines can help. Obama was wrong to say there was no evidence for vote tampering. That was like a detective saying there was no evidence for blood in a room when nobody had entered the room to look for it. Nobody looked seriously for evidence of vote tampering, so we really don’t know if it happened or not.

        Donors supplied the funds for recounts regardless for three states with some weirdnesses, but Trump and state officials blocked it. That’s actually when I really began to suspect meddling with the vote tallies — the only reason for a winner to block a recount is if the winner suspects he is not really the winner. Bush 2 blocked the recount in Florida in 2000, but an unofficial continued hand recount revealed Gore (who had won the popular vote by a small margin) actually had also won Florida and its electoral votes and thus was actually supposed to be the President. Hundreds of thousands of people would have lived if Gore had been in the White House instead of Bush.

        In 2016, Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by a rather large margin by US election standards (close to 3 million votes). Trump won the electoral votes by a relatively small margin compared with previous elections. Just 80,000 votes total spread over a few states gave him the electoral vote win. That’s the number of suspect votes in just one small area of Michigan, where optically scanned ballots in a predominantly African-American area registered inexplicably as not having voted for President but just for the lower offices. So the election really should have been subject to proper hand recounts to verify it. If we go into mid-term elections in 2018 without the proper paper backups, we will not be able to trust the results unless the numbers are overwhelming (which they generally are not, especially in the popular vote).

    • MI6 says:

      Please God. This madman will be impeached along with his handpicked band of thugs and that includes Pence. I believe the majority will then have the right to appoint a replacement until a special election can be held next November.
      Which is probably why Hillary has said she’s “coming out of the woods.”

      • Llamas says:

        It would go to Paul Ryan. It would follow down the line of succession. We wouldn’t have a new presidential election.

      • bleu_moon says:

        Yeah, after Pence would be Ryan. If he was somehow involved in Russia-gate it would be Orrin Hatch who is currently President pro tempore of the Senate. After that is Rex Tillerson as Secretary of State. Then Steve Mnuchin as Secretary of Treasury. It’s craptastic turtles all the way down.

        ETA: As voters we should focus less on impeachment and more on midterm elections. I truly doubt the FBI or the republicans will let impeachment hearings ever happen. While we’re all holding our breath waiting for “the big one” they’re passing horrific legislation.

      • Luca76 says:

        I think one thing must be understood. It’s virtually unthinkable to think of this House actually producing articles of Impeachment unless and until half the cabinet was indicted (I’m not saying that’s impossible at the rate things are going) . If we actually got impeachment Pence would be so weak and unpopular (look at Gerald Ford and he was basically uninvolved with Watergate except for the pardon). Not only would us liberals hate him but the true Trump deplorables would be livid about the betrayal they suffered. I honestly don’t know what they would do if Trump were to resign/get impeached.

      • bleu_moon says:

        I wonder what the SCOTUS justices think of Gorsuch? I bet RBG has a few opinions. 😉

      • Luca76 says:

        From what I heard he actually worked under Kennedy. Theres a theory out there that this pick was basically a ruse to convince Kennedy that it is safe for him to retire and that Trump won’t pick some out there whack a doodle.

    • DystopianDance says:

      “Tillerson never wanted the job”- this is from a right wing leaning propaganda site. I’m not so sure it’s true. Under Tillerson the state department is all but dissolved- the state department is the lead for negotiations vs all our war. Think SANCTIONS. Under Tillerson the State department is nearly gone and the 45th wants a sick increase in miliatary spending. I am not buying that Tillerson “never wanted the job”- he’s NOT DOING THE JOB OF A STATESMAN. He’s doing his former job of pandering to a dictator for oil profits!

  2. mia girl says:

    This administration is a sh*t salad covered in Russian dressing.

  3. Nancy says:

    Us liberals warned you. We screamed it off the rooftops and now we are proven right. We have a broken country with a madman for president who is so deep in denial and his own ego, he won’t even acknowledge that he is in the crosshairs and that he is going down. Drain that swamp Joffrey, and it will reveal what we knew all along, you are nothing but a sociopathic liar and crook and trader and some might say a monster.

    • Megan says:

      You can drain the swamp, but it will still be full of snakes and alligators.

    • nemera77 says:

      Don Lemon keeps quoting a tweet from Garry Kasparov which states…

      The house is on fire, Trump is running around with a box of matches, and the GOP demands to know who called the fire department.
      ***********************************
      John Dean said on a CNN show that when he was counsel for Nixon he and the others he worked with were young and didn’t get the enormity of the situation at the onset. He said that Trump needs to Lawyer up now; because his White House Counsel is an too green and out of their league.

      Trump is a LIAR. The thing that pisses me off is the way his talking heads go on these shows and defend his lack of credibility. His lies. His miss directions. They embarrass themselves daily. Never holding him to any standards. Trying to normalize him and what he is doing. They should be ashamed.

      • Nancy says:

        It infuriates me that he can accuse a former president of wire tapping, on twitter, with no facts to support accusation, have the FBI say it is false and didn’t happen, and that, in fact, his own team is suspected of foul play with the Russians during the election AND HE WON’T ACKNOWLEDGE IT. He and his moronic posse of idiots live in a world of alternative facts. They simply dismiss the truth and go on with the day. This is so disturbing. Is Sean Spicer really that thirsty for the little power he has as a mouthpiece for this POS that he is willing to perjure himself. The truth will win in the end and I am anxiously waiting for the other shoe to drop, and it will. He is an embarrassment to our country.

      • Shambles says:

        Falsely impugning his predecessor is an impeachable offense. Not that anyone will impeach him until they’ve turned us into an oligarchy.

      • holly hobby says:

        Let them keep going on talk shows. It will be used against him and them if/when the hammer drops.

      • jwoolman says:

        Holly – I feel the same about the Orange Maroons tweeting. Let him tweet as much as his little three-sizes-too-small heart desires. It all is evidence…

    • original kay says:

      You got it Nancy.

    • Beth says:

      No matter how much us liberals warned them, Republican people refused to listen. So many just thought of Trump as a way to get Democrats out and get Republicans back in. They forgot to notice what he really is. He’s in over his head. Scary. The swamp is a flooded mess

    • Kitten says:

      Preach, Nancy!

  4. Rapunzel says:

    Tillerson going to Russia instead of a NATO meeting is all the evidence we need that Baby Fists and Co. are in Putin’s pocket. Hope the FBI is watching this closely.

    • Kitten says:

      According to Tillerson, he never wanted the job but took it because his wife told him he should. How very reassuring….

      • Lightpurple says:

        Then he should resign. And we should all demand that he do so.

      • Rapunzel says:

        Just watch. Once Tillerson has made his Russia deal, he will say his wife changed,her mind and misses him, so he has to resign.

      • HappyMom says:

        I saw that-crazy! He’s gutted the State Department, doesn’t want press coverage: what the what? And in any other universe this would be getting headlines-but instead this is whole administration is such a dumpster fire that it’s getting lost!!!

      • Betsy says:

        Make sure you share the horror of how she persuaded him: “god isn’t done with you, yet, Rex!”

    • adastraperaspera says:

      When I heard this, it enraged me way more than Tr*mp’s sputter and spin of the day. Tillerson works for us!!! He is supposed to be doing his damn job, and not running around doing other (shady/treasonous/oily) biz. I was so happy that Rep. Jackie Speier called him out by name in the hearing on Monday. Her remarks have gone on the record. He is a huge buddy of Putin’s, for many years. He is rotten to the core.

  5. Aiobhan Targaryen says:

    How could I forget? I had a sobering moment last night. I think this is all a smoke screen to have Gorsuck quietly confirmed while Agent Orange is being publically humiliated. I want to believe that he will not be confirmed because they need 60 votes, but the Democrats are spineless losers who would not know how to win a street fight even they had Mike Tyson, Joanna Jędrzejczyk, and Anderson Silva on their side. I do like that AO and his team are being humiliated though because I am a sadistic bitch.

    I was trying to stay up and watch MSNBC last night and Rachel, Chris, and sassy pants Lawrence O’Donnell kept hammering home that AO was being investigated. They also kept hammering home what hypocritical pieces of shits Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush, and many other shills for the Rethugs are by rolling recordings of past things they have said and done in the past when Hilary was under “investigation”. The clips were well edited and effective.

    • Lama Bean says:

      I love Sassy Pants Lawrence! I live for his rants at the beginning of the show.

      I fail to believe Dems will vote for Gorsuch, so it will be something like 53-47 (Joe Manchin stays voting with Republicans but calls himself a Democrat) and then Turkey Neck/ Turtle McConnell will go nuclear and change the rules to require a simple majority.

  6. RussianBlueCat says:

    I am waiting to see if the Vice President will be investigated. I don’t think his hands are clean. There is something shady about that guy, like he is the one who knows where the bodies are buried and is really the one in control.

    • Rapunzel says:

      I think the whole GOP leadership sold out to Russia to beat HRC. Ryan, McConnell, etc. are probably all dirty as heck. Pence is probably dirty too… but I think he’ll survive if nobody else.

      • RussianBlueCat says:

        He is keeping a low profile, and distancing himself from the “Trump dumpster fire”. He is hoping the media does not turn their attention his way.

      • Megan says:

        I think Pence is playing it both ways. He is extremely calculating.

      • Lama Bean says:

        Only problem is that he was the head of the transition team, so if nothing else, he knew about Flynn being a foreign agent (thanks Elijah Cummings) and speaking to Kislyak and did nothing.

      • jwoolman says:

        Megan – I don’t think Pence is that smart. Persistent and dedicated to his beliefs, but not the brightest bulb on the tree.

    • Lucy2 says:

      He’s definitely shady, but my gut feeling remains that he is/was sort of the outsider if the campaign and administration and will probably manage to slip out of this. I also think the GOP will pull every trick in the book to protect him.

    • jwoolman says:

      I doubt that Pence is involved. They keep him out of the inner circle for a reason. I doubt that Pence would go along with either an election-sabotaging scheme or a money-laundering scheme (which I suspect is why Trump is really trying to hide). Pence is dangerous because of his policies on healthcare, schools, etc., and here in Indiana our Republican governor and legislature are busily trying to reverse a lot of the damage he did. But he’s not the ethics- free mess that Trump is.

    • LA Elle says:

      I actually worry that part of the problem is that the treason (and that is, sadly, what this all comes down to) is so massive and would take out so many people that no elected official is willing to step forward and do something because it would cause anarchy in the short term. So instead we get long-term anarchy and tyranny, which is just insane.

  7. aquarius64 says:

    If proven that Trump got to the White House illegally there is a chance any legislation he signs into law and appointments are invalid.

  8. Louise177 says:

    When Comey announced Hillary was being investigated just before the election Republicans were saying what a great American he was. The same people are now claiming he’s political. I haven’t followed closely but why didn’t the FBI say Trump was being investigated but was quick to do so for Hillary. Almost all of the people in Trump’s cabinet hate their depts. They are huge critics of them and said they should be dismantled – Devos, Perry, etc.

    • Esmom says:

      I just can’t with the hypocrisy anymore, it’s insane.

    • Lama Bean says:

      This is the million dollar question and the reason I’m pissed morning, noon, and night. HRC is under investigation for some emails and you run to Chaffetz, but Cheeto is under investigation for collusion and treason and you just let that go?
      I can’t decide if its Comey I’m angry at for telling the House Committee or Chaffetz for being so gleeful and tweeting that they were reopening the investigation when he had no right to do that.

    • LA Elle says:

      What gets to me is that Hillary’s purported crimes and Donald’s purported crimes aren’t even in the same league. Nothing about this election was clean, and Comey is honestly as dirty as Trump – although I do wonder if he didn’t realize the depth of Herr Orange’s crimes when he allowed that October Surprise.

  9. Elisa the I. says:

    “Now this week, we have confirmation from the Director of the FBI that the FBI has been investigating Donald Trump, his people and his campaign since JULY. And the investigation is about a hostile nation’s takeover of our political system.”

    If this is confirmed in the final outcome of the investigation, will the Democrats take legal action to annul the election results? Would they have a chance to succeed?

    • Crumpet says:

      A hostile nation’s takeover of our political system? What an interesting a way to put it. Does anyone else see the irony? The very richness of it?

      • Kitten says:

        The only irony I see in that statement is the fact that our nation’s government is currently quite hostile to its inhabitants–indeed we aren’t much better than the Kremlin at this point.

        But that’s probably not what you were getting at, right Crumpet?

      • Llamas says:

        Oh my god we are so much better. Poo-tin legalized beating up a spouse or partner recently!!!

    • Shambles says:

      I just don’t think that’s possible, and I think it would set a precedent we don’t want to set. He can be impeached and forced to resign, along with many of his cronies, and imprisoned. And I bet there’s legal action that can be taken to annul any policy he put into place, as it came from an illegitimate president. But I don’t think annulling the election results is possible, and I’m kind of glad it’s not.

    • Kitten says:

      The election results are not going to be invalidated unless they can definitively prove that there was voter fraud and/or tampering with the ballots.
      People need to understand how incredibly difficult it would be to prove in a court that Russia had a direct impact on the election results.
      Remember that many Americans still voted for Trump on their own volition–those votes were not illegally cast.

      • KWM says:

        Exactly, when they say influence the election they are specifically looking into the hack and release of the emails, the use of fake news stories that were boosted by Russian bots to get higher ranking and more feed pushes.
        None of this would invalidate the election, because people went and voted of their own free will for this dumpnut. Sadly, stupidity is not a reason to invalidate the election. Because one could argue the above do not have a guaranteed outcome.

        What will matter is what did the campaign promise Russia in exchange? It is pretty easy to draw the line from Manafort and the sudden 180 of the RNC stance on Russia.

        The ones to watch will be Manafort and Bannon. Now that the FBI is looking at Breitbart and Infowars it will get interesting. Which can also bring in a whole host of other troubles. Google pays out for ad views, however they are supposed to be real eyes as views, and the news about the Russian Bots with Breitbart and Infowars could get fun for us and ugly for them. Bannon was still at Breitbart when they were getting 300 million views a day, which now most have been shown to be Russian Bots. Google could in theory sue for the money they paid out for ad views.

      • Lady D says:

        I think if there was a re-vote, a lot more Americans would be voting this time around. I don’t think Agent Orange, or his party would win a second time around.

      • Rapunzel says:

        I believe there was tampering with the machines. Hillary was up by large margins in the polls, even after the Comey letter about her emails. I will always find it fishy that those polls were so incorrect.

        But tampering will never get proven. All we can do is prove they interfered and Trump was part of it. Which is treason and should get him executed. But I’ll settle for jail time and a President who at least isn’t going to provoke North Korea on Twitter.

      • Llamas says:

        rapunzel:

        Just because she was up be huge margins in the polls doesn’t mean that there was tampering. It’s important to look at the sampling in the statistical sense that was done with these polls. Understand that polls such as these are not extremely reliable and valid. It’s all statistics. An investigation was done with Michigan and Wisconsin and it came out that there was voter fraud for Hillary. I’m not a dump supporter by any means but still, don’t let your opinions overtake logic and fact.

      • jwoolman says:

        Llamas – what are your sources for voter fraud for Hillary in those two states? The only voter fraud I’ve seen from reliable sources have been a few Trump supporters who seemed more confused than malicious (Trump actually told them to go vote in person even if they had voted absentee for reasons known only to himself, so they were afraid their vote hadn’t been recorded properly). It’s a felony, so stakes are high for those who attempt it. One woman was given an 8-year sentence recently – she had been in this country since infancy and was a permanent resident, I suspect an overly enthusiastic voter deputy registrar misunderstood and assumed she was a citizen and convinced her to register to vote (she registered Republican). Again, it sounds like confusion rather than deliberate fraud and the sentence is overkill.

        Voter fraud (people voting more than once or who are ineligible to vote) has been investigated in the past and shown to be a rare event. The safeguards put in place seem to work well.

        But vote tallying fraud is still something that we need to protect against, and can happen at any level (by local, national, and now international actors). Those machines don’t have to be hooked up to the net to be vulnerable. They can be tampered with at various levels, all the way from manufacturing through poll closing time. The ballot has to be loaded into the machines and that can infect them, and with modern technology there are other ways to do some remote fiddling without opening up the machine, with the proper knowledge.

        In at least one state, as soon as a petition for a vote recount was filed, several precincts withdrew a few hundred votes for Trump as errors….

    • Elisa the I. says:

      Thanks for your insights! In my country the result of the presidential election was annulled last year because some postal ballots were opened earlier than permitted. The court ruling said there was no proof the count had been manipulated, though.
      The ongoing investigations in the US seem way more serious. That’s why I was wondering…

    • LA Elle says:

      The thing I keep coming back to is Trump DIDN’T win the vote. He won on a technicality, and the fact that Republicans are trying to argue this is identical to Lincoln winning his first time – when he didn’t win a majority of the votes (there were four candidates) but did win the most – is absolutely insane.

      I mean, come on, the founders didn’t even address this in the Constitution because it’s so insane that no one would believe it.

      I mean, things are weird enough at this point that I feel like we could very well see the ghosts of Washington, Jefferson, and Adams coming back to restore American democracy. Also, I would like Lincoln to come back and rain hell on his party.

  10. Eric says:

    I especially loved when Sean Spicer tried to minimize Manafort’s role in the Emperor Zero campaign during Monday’s presser.
    Spicey claimed Manafort had a minimal role for a minimal amount of time. He was a campaign leader who built the professionalism it attained, was a direct influence over the RNC convention in Cleveland, and was hired in March (not June, as Spicey claimed and was corrected at the presser). He was let go in August 2016 by the campaign, making his tenure at the top of the campaign longer than both Conjob’s and Bannon’s.
    Sorry WH, you can’t distance yourselves now from Manafort, Page, Stone, Gordon, Gorka, and Flynn. I’m almost certain that all these clowns are being investigated by the FBI and that the list may include members of the Trump Organization (Jr said, circa 2014?, that a lot of business comes from Russia).

    Resist!

    • Esmom says:

      Yeah, Spicer is working overtime (even more) on spinning the lies. Wait Wait Don’t Tell Me had a funny line: “Sean Spicer has had to spin so fast he actually corkscrewed into the earth.” Lol.

    • Christin says:

      I only caught a minute of that presser, but did he seem to have dialed down his anger/contempt a notch or two? His calming down his adversarial stance (however slightly) would lead me to think he/they know this is serious.

  11. Sixer says:

    And what is this thing I saw about Acosta giving a sweetheart plea deal to Jeffrey Epstein and Trump being on the witness list? Could someone explain what’s happening here and what it means?

    (Interested in this one as the shadiest member of the BRF was caught up in the Epstein scandal.)

    • Megan says:

      Federal proscutors put together a massive indictment against Epstein for sex crimes involving minors. Rather than indict him, Acosta cut a non-prosecution deal and Epstein served just 13 months in prison. Despite what Acosta claims about why he cut the deal, Epstein had massively lawyered up and Acosta was afraid that losing the case would be the end of his career.

      Victims in the case are suing because under the federal Crime Victims Rights Act, prosecutors were supposed to notify them that they were negotiating a plea with Epstein. Trump is named as a potential witness in that case, but no one expects it to go to trail.

      The woman who brought the rape lawsuit against Trump alleged she was one of Epstein’s “girls” and was raped by Trump at Epstein’s house.

      Basically, Epstein is a pedofile, pimp, and sex trafficker, who, by virtue of massive privledge, gets away with it.

  12. QQ says:

    My thing is this: no more smoking guns will come out and if we don’t stay on our senators and representatives this is going to go nowhere there’s enough to get this Sentient Cat Vomit out the paint already

    Also once again I still don’t understand how Comey felt no way to really make releases to the American public about Hillary Clinton when he had this under wraps and he had no problem being cautious about THIS

    • Lucy2 says:

      I don’t get it either, he really torpedoed Clinton with the email thing so close to the election, but was silent about investigating Trump?!? So unfair.

      • Diana says:

        I don’t know either… but do you think comey kept quiet about trumps investigation bc it was still ongoing and he didn’t want the trump team to tamper with evidence? Like the problem itself is bigger than this one election and comey is trying to deal with Russia, our number 1 threat?

      • original kay says:

        I think that’s a great point. We know Obama made moves to find safe places for evidence, so the incoming admin couldn’t destroy it.
        It does stand to reason that the FBI did as well, and not tip them off it was coming.

        However, I hope that if they had any concrete evidence they would have spoken up and disqualified him, but we’ll never know that.

        He screwed Hillary, and he owes an explanation for why he did that, beyond “her case was closed so I could comment”. I have to have hope, after watching his testimony, that he will now do his job and get trump, but I still hope he pays for what he did to Hillary. He really is our only hope (we don’t get Obi Wan in real life 🙁 )

      • jwoolman says:

        I think the problem was that Comey was obligated to inform the committee if new evidence appeared. At the same time, rogue agents were feeding info to Giuliani and were threatening to leak it anyway. Obviously Giuliani and Trump knew what was coming days before, judging from their gleeful remarks. Comey’s letter seemed to be trying to minimize the damage, but the Republicans publicized it with their own spin. He probably didn’t feel he could wait until he had been able to examine the e-mails to see if anything new was there, even though his boss the Attorney General clearly told him it would violate protocol. I’m really not sure Comey is the villain, he may have been under conflicting pressures and doing the best he could with it. He doesn’t seem to be trying to protect Trump & Co.

    • Megan says:

      That is why I don’t trust Comey to do the right thing. I’m hearing a lot of talk about investigations, but where is the action? No one has been charged with anything thus far.

    • Esmom says:

      I’m with you. As for Comey, the one plausible theory I’ve heard is that he was forced by the GOP to release the Hillary letter but now he feels like he has to be fair and disclose the Trump investigation.

      • Lady D says:

        “Now” he has to be fair? Bit late, mate. What a douche he is. And just how does a political party force the director of the FBI to do anything? I repeat, he’s a douche.

    • nemera77 says:

      Comey said he talked about the Hillary investigation because it had concluded. But the Trump investigation was ongoing. To me it has put a cloud on him. I have no respect for how he handled Hillary. And how the Republican were so up in arms demanding more leaks. Now to them leaks are the worse. Least we forget Trump said he loved leaks. Wanted them to leak more about Hillary. Gross beyond words.

    • Nicole says:

      It’s not that hard to understand it was a partisan move that should’ve had him removed from office. He violated the Hatch agreement. He wasn’t ALLOWED to do this, it was a strategic move and the GOP rewarded him by letting him keep his job

    • Kitten says:

      I completely agree, QQ. I don’t think we should put all our focus on this.

  13. Rapunzel says:

    Oh, and DT is trying to bully the GOP into voting for Trumpcare by threatening that they”ll get voted out– so stupid.

    • Megan says:

      Those are the same lawmakers who can vote to impeach him. He should be careful.

    • PunkyMomma says:

      And it ain’t working here in Michigan. Cheeto Mussolini is already viewed as very damaged goods, so a number of the deeply conservative Reps are openly voicing that they will vote “no” on Trumpcare. They’re more concerned in keeping their cushy job on the Hill (which, BTW, provides them with excellent health care).

      • Angela82 says:

        Ill never understand the hypocrisy of Republican congressman being against good healthcare when they continue to benefit from it their entire life.

        Also, our local DC sports channel here has been playing the “pro” Republican health care commercial lately, sponsored by Comstock. They couldn’t lie their way out of a plastic bag. It is so vague and alarming. It used to be some “common” citizen bashing the ACA, but maybe Trumpcare is so bad she told them she was lied to and to take it off the air for fear of embarrassment lol.

    • jwoolman says:

      More Backwards Land stuff. The Congressionals know very well how unpopular ACA repeal and replace is with their constituents, many are avoiding town meetings as a result. Trump doesn’t have a clue and they know it. The most reliable voters will get shafted by the whole Trumpcare approach. Plus they are probably beginning to realize that the odds are good that Trump won’t last through the summer. Or maybe the spring… He may very well be persuaded to spend more time golfing and watching tv by resigning. His tweeting is crazier and crazier and leaders of other countries are showing disbelief that this toddler is in control of the White House. His budget is the last straw, nobody will get re-elected in 2018 if they go along with it.

  14. Shambles says:

    I barely have anything to say anymore. It’s like… duh. Of course they’re being investigated. Those of us who have a grasp on our 5 human senses could see that this was going to be a shit show as early as last spring. I don’t know what else to say about it until it plays out further.

    I will say I’m addicted to Rachel Maddow, and her reporting is fabulous. And on the subject of why Comey outed Hillary but said nothing about Trump, I honestly think he knew nothing would come of the Hillary stuff, and that the Trump stuff was actually substantial and he had to wait until people would actually believe him. Not saying him costing Hillary the election was right. But that’s why I think it happened.

    • Kitten says:

      Yeah this is the only theory that makes sense to me.

    • Angela82 says:

      Not to defend Comey ratting out Hillary right before the election, but I also think the American people are ridiculous and severely brainwashed to have taken a few emails having to do with Weiner (nothing more) and run with it as if they would uncover some grand conspiracy. By the time we voted Comey basically said “nothing to see here” and yet people were still waiting for her child sex ring pizza place to be raided. It just goes to show you, people think the worst of women and the best of men.

      • Kitten says:

        Yes this is very true. The salacious pre-election news cycle generated by main stream media created some very fertile soil for sowing the seeds of doubt in the minds of the incredibly-gullible American public.
        They were so eager to see scandal where there was none.

  15. Eric says:

    Keep the pressure up to your reps!

    I have the pleasure of being able to complain about Russian influence to Kamala Harris, who is constantly buzzing my phone with info.

    The audacity of a “so-called president” threatening house GOP members to vote for DeathCare or else be voted out in 2018 takes my breath away.
    1) Diaper Bigly may not be in the WH himself come Nov 2018.
    2) The GOP seats will disappear with or without a yea vote on DeathCare

    It’s an exciting (and terrifying) time if you’re an American.

    • Lightpurple says:

      I’ve been calling & emailing that they don’t work for Trump; they work for constituents and if they vote FOR Trumpcare, I will donate to campaigns to unseat them, even primary challengers

    • LA Elle says:

      I unfortunately have Senators and a congressman who are front-and-center of the “opposition” as it were. Which, on the one hand, yay! But in a weird way, I also feel like it’s given me “less” of a voice, as my letters and so forth are going to people who are already aware of how messed up the situation is.

  16. Marcy says:

    Republicans are too chicken to impeach him because he will sign them they can’t afford to lose him. I think Pence knew but didn’t get involved with the interaction with Puttycakes he’s clever and sneaky like that. Comey be quicker bust this clown.

  17. Hype says:

    I hate this man and the nationalist movement that started around the world.
    I honestly believe nothing will come out of this investigation, money and power is louder than justice in DC. His appointed millionaires and billionaires from Wall Street have invested in Drumph and they will not lose.
    Comey is going to come back with nothing, they knew the GOP were hacked just like the DNC and was used to derail the election. Comey didn’t do anything then and will do nothing now.
    I would love to see him impeached but deep down I just believe nothing will come out of this investigation. This orange man has already done enough to be impeached has anyone done anything so far??? NOPE

    • Megan says:

      I think he is more likely to resign in shame than be impeached, but I’ll take either.

      • Lightpurple says:

        He has no shame. If he does resign, it will be in the middle of a temper tantrum because he’s aggravated that nobody is obeying him.

      • SusanneToo says:

        Impeachment, resignation, strait jacket or death. Whichever is fastest.

      • Angela82 says:

        If he resigns you just know its going to be over Twitter at 3:00am and will contain the words “losers” and “SAD!”.

      • Beth says:

        He’s got such a ginormous ego so he’ll never resign. Maybe he’s pissng everyone off and messing everything up on purpose so he gets impeached. If he gets impeached, he wouldn’t have to admit the job is too hard for him. Whatever happens, I hope it’s soon

    • B n A fn says:

      Imo, DT has been too dirty for too long. He’s has been in every illegal operation imaginable. He fixed his income tax so he does not have to pay federal tax for about 10 years, he’s rapped up with the mafia for all his adult life being in the building business ect, he had four bankruptcy meaning he stiffed everyone for their goods and money, And never repaid a cent. He always gyp the poor people who work for him. He lies like a dog. if his lips are moving he’s lying. I would not believe a word coming out of his mouth even if his tongue came motorized. Trump university robbed hundreds of people out of their hard earned money and think he’s smart. His father was arrested at a K K K rally. DT is stink in every way possible.

      I see the stock market went down yesterday, if it continues lots of his followers are going to abandoned him. Some are with him because they are making money from the stock market.

    • Andrea says:

      Nationalist movement was started by Russia.

  18. Who ARE These People? says:

    Been busy in the morning the past few months but wanted to let you cats know I’m still around, calling, acting up and appreciating everything you’re sharing in and on these posts. Events are astonishing.

  19. SusanneToo says:

    Sarah Huckabee’s tweet has come back to haunt her. The responses are hilarious.
    http://twitter.com/sarahhuckabee/status/792569783321436160

    And Sean Hannity’s tweet, hahaha.
    http://twitter.com/mmfa/status/844185792813527041

  20. zappy says:

    Err.. If FBI has been investigating DT since July, why on earth he could running for President candidates ?? I mean, arent there some standarts for it..
    I dont understand..

    • jwoolman says:

      Being investigated by the FBI doesn’t automatically mean you have done anything wrong or illegal. As in Hillary’s case, you can be cleared of any wrongdoing by the investigation.

      Usually the FBI does not talk about ongoing investigations at all, not even to verify if they are or are not investigating someone. So it is not wrong that nothing was said about the Trump investigation at the time.

      • zappy says:

        thanks for the explanation..

      • B n A fn says:

        Jwoolman, thanks for cleaning up my comment about being under FBI investigation. I did not note one can be cleared after an fbi investigation. However, being under fbi investigation in very serious.

      • Andrea says:

        A law should be put in place: If you are being investigated by the FBI and the case is not closed, you should not be allowed to run for president. End of.

    • Shelly says:

      It was wrong to announce that Hilary was under investigation by the FBI right before the vote

  21. Kiki says:

    I want Donald J. Trump to be exiled along with his mail order trophy wife Melania Trump and his son. His whole family is should be gone out of the White House and Donald’s American citizenship REVOKED.

    I don’t just want him to be impeached, I WANT HIM ANNIHILATED. And the republican party can take that with their heads up in their you know where.

    • jwoolman says:

      I will be happy if he just resigns and goes off to play golf all day. I certainly don’t want Melania or her son forced to be with him. Wish her luck on the too-long delayed divorce.

    • LA Elle says:

      You and me both, Kiki. Although my hope is that he and the entire extended family ends up serving life sentences for treason and several other high crimes. Also, I want his name to be initially reviled and then forgotten.

      The sad part is, he will be remembered by history at this point. Granted, it’s not going to be favorable, but he is going to be remembered.

      • addie says:

        I would like to see Trump in an orange jumpsuit, shuffling along in shackles. I want him and his filthy family to lose everything they value.

    • swak says:

      A different way to not allow women to have a choice.

    • Angela82 says:

      I don’t know how anyone can stand to live in some of these backwards states. And I mean that in the nicest way. Sorry If I offend anyone. Like I get Texas has liberal hot spots like Austin, but you are still at the mercy of these crazed congressman and governors. I just couldn’t do it personally. At least when MD elects a Republican governor everything doesn’t go to hell. 🙁

      • Kitten says:

        Under Obama, those states had a fighting chance but under this administration? They’re all pretty much f*cked.

      • Sandy Eggo says:

        I live in a very red county of central Texas, and yeah, it’s bad here. But progressives are making, well, progress! I used to think I was alone, but since the election, liberals are coming forward and speaking out and demanding change. I think the prevailing view has been that Texas is red and there is no way around that, and so a lot of liberals haven’t bothered to vote in local or midterm elections. I know I felt like that, I’m ashamed to say.

        But I think everything has changed. There is a very robust resistance where I live (admittedly, not too far from Austin). People are planning to run for office who have never done so before. They may not win this time against the well-funded incumbents, but they are already causing some worry in the local GOP ranks.

        About the latest abortion restrictions, did you all see this? A group of pro-choicers showed up at the TX legislature dressed in red robes like the Handmaid’s Tale!

        http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/women-wore-handmaids-tale-robes-to-texas-senate_us_58d034bee4b0ec9d29de74f5

      • Kitten says:

        @ Sandy Eggo-Love it! Great to see the resistance is alive and well, even in red states.

  22. Relli says:

    I know it hasn’t always been popular but I am loving the political coverage around here lately!

  23. Josefina says:

    Those God darn left-wingers and their delusions are making the FBI lose their time!!! They should be investigating actual crines!!!1!! You lost the election get over it!!!1!!1!

    • B n A fn says:

      Anyone being investigated by the FBI is in a whole lot of trouble. DT better stop strutting around like the most important c o c k in the coop. He better start taking this s@&@$
      Seriously. He’s going down!! And it cannot be soon enough.

    • Beth says:

      God darn right-wingers better start waking up and realize how delusional they are about Trump and this situation. Trumps been being investigated since July because there’s a big yuge problem. Actual crimes. He’s gotta get over not winning the popular vote!!! Me and the rest of the liberals can’t wait to see him fired!

    • Carisel says:

      Josefina, learn how to spell and make a cogent argument before inflicting your opinions on others

      • Kitten says:

        I’m fairly certain she’s making a joke here, guys. Unless it’s a troll posing as Josefina…

    • Lightpurple says:

      You’re being sarcastic, right? Because election tampering is a crime and hacking is a crime and treason is a crime punishable by death and all three are within the jurisdiction of the FBI, which has plenty of agents just for this purpose.

      • jwoolman says:

        My bet is that money laundering (also a crime) is a big part of the investigation also. Trump was fined for that before during his casino adventures and he has had some suspicious recent transactions involving Russians.

    • Snowflake says:

      This does not sound like Josephina. She is either joking or posing as josephina.

  24. HK9 says:

    It’s coming towards the end of March and this is already a complete and utter disaster. Has the first 100 days even passed yet? I have no idea what the country is going to be like in a year. Nothing is stable, everything is collapsing because they are intent on ripping things apart just because they can. And on top of it, he’s being investigated because it’s not a matter of what they did because they already know they’re shady, but they have to know how much the country has now been compromised by their shenanigans. This is ridiculous.

    • swak says:

      First 100 days are not over yet. If I count correctly, it’s only 75.

      • SusanneToo says:

        61 or 62, I believe. 1/20/17-3/22/17. He’s moving fast to destroy the USA.

      • Christin says:

        One of the networks keeps using the ‘First 100 Days’ phrase on the TV listings grid.

        This has been the longest 60 days, let alone 100. I thought waiting to graduate or get my drivers permit was a long wait as a teenager, but this beats those perceptions of how slowly time can pass.

      • HappyMom says:

        It does seem like so much longer . . .

  25. SusanneToo says:

    Watching reports from London. Hope there are no casualties.

    • Digital Unicorn (aka Betti) says:

      So far no deaths reported but from what i can gather from reports there could be. An ‘asian’ man tried to get into parliament brandishing a knife, apparently stabbed a policemen and was shot. However there are reports of other violent incidents so it could be there were other people involved. He mowed down pedestrians on Westminster bridge before crashing into heavily fortified barriers.

      That area is always busy particularly with tourists but it is heavily patrolled by armed police who reacted quickly to it. Prayers to the injured. Luckily there is a good hospital (St Thomas’s) just across the bridge.

      Its being treated as a terror attack.

      • Kitten says:

        My bestie is in London for 11 days and I’m waiting to hear from her. I’m sure she’s fine but still a bit nervous.

      • Alyse says:

        2 dead so far.

      • Becky says:

        It’s been reported that 4 people have died, incl the attacker who was shot, and 20 people injured. 1 person was in the river.

        It appears there was one attacker.

        There’s increased security and people are being advised to avoid the area.

      • Kitten says:

        So the attacker used his car first then got out and started stabbing people? I’m so confused…

        I heard from my friend who is ok but obviously frightened. I warned her before she left that this might not be the best time to go to London with the terror threat so high. Then again, when is the *right* time? At the risk of politicizing a tragedy, I only see terrorism increasing under the anti-immigration agenda of both Brexit and Trump.

      • Digital Unicorn (aka Betti) says:

        @Kitten – we don’t know for sure but yes, it seems he mowed people down with his SUV along Westminster bridge, came to a stop across from the Tube station entrance, got out and then ran into the main gate of Parliament where he stabbed the policeman. They think there was 2 of them but police are not saying anything at the moment but thats what witnesses are saying. The bomb squad were or still are inspecting the car.

      • jwoolman says:

        It seems like a lone-wolf attacker, who may or may not have had the illusion that he was part of something bigger. Definitely a native-born Brit. Apparently he’s been on their radar due to previous violent behavior. So as often occurs in the US – awful though it was, it does seem like a single disturbed individual. So people need to view it in that light and try not to let more general fears take over.

  26. Eric says:

    Check out Keith Olbermann on youtube for a KO of Emperor Zero yesterday.

    Classic!

  27. HappyMom says:

    Wait for Trump to turn on Paul Ryan after “Obama Lite” gets voted down tomorrow!

  28. Eric says:

    I hope Bannon is not licking his lips over the incident in downtown London today.

    • Kitten says:

      He probably already blew a load in his pants over this. I heard Orangina was briefed already so I’m waiting for the impending tweetstorm.

      Sending positive thoughts and vibes to the good people of London today. ♥
      I hope everyone is ok..

    • LA Elle says:

      Please. Bannon probably arranged it. Fear of the terrorists and/or war with England! Yeehaw!

  29. Christin says:

    WaPo just broke a story claiming the SService is requesting 60 million EXTRA dollars to help cover travel-security costs for the grifters next year. If they cannot get that approved, supposedly funds will be diverted from other programs they have.

    One program mentioned is cybercrime investigation.

    Now please remind me — who is working for whom? They seem to believe this is an unlimited account, on the taxpayers’ (many) dollars.

    • LA Elle says:

      You know, I’ve always been of the belief that taxpayers should give the Secret Service flexibility with protecting the president and his family. But I also can’t recall another president running up some a massive tab in such a short amount of time or viewing it as his personal piggy bank or showing such a blatant disregard for taxpayers.

    • Maria says:

      and the amount of verbal acrobatics to justify the expense.

      DJTrump works 7 days a week and uses Mar a Lago for meetings and states visits (according to Spicer)

      That does not make any sense. Why not then do all of it in the WH, and eliminate all the costs?

      Their followers might be morons, but any person with somewhat normal intelligence (i.e. me) can argue huge holes into all their statements…

      • jwoolman says:

        Can’t they just set up a little mini golf thing on the White House lawn for President Tweeter? Or maybe set up holes in the corridors for him to wander through in his bathrobe.

  30. holly hobby says:

    Yay for General Mattis! He is a military man and I personally think he is not on board with these traitors’ agenda and colluding with the enemy. An impeachment can’t come soon enough for me. May they all hang for treason.

    • Kitten says:

      Mattis is basically the only one I don’t hate with the fire of a thousand suns.

      But I still have to question the moral barometer of anyone who works for Trump.

      • HappyMom says:

        I think Mattis and the new National Security Advisor, McMaster, love our country and are truly trying to help save us. I don’t put them in with the rest of that motley crew at all.

    • LA Elle says:

      In the fictional, entertaining version of this dumpster fire, I feel like they’re secretly working with Obama and other sane people to topple the Orange dictator.

  31. adastraperaspera says:

    I love the headline of this post. I relish in it. I give it hugs. I hope we have one like this every day, just with a new fill-in-the-blank:

    “Don’t forget: The Trump Whitehouse is being investigated for _________________.”

  32. Jamie says:

    Devin Nunes just went to the White House and informed him what was in some of the intelligence data. He is deliberately trying to muddy the waters, as well. Independent commission is now essential.

    • HappyMom says:

      He, along with Chaffetz, are total and complete asshats. I don’t even live in either of their districts, but I’ll be donating money to whoever runs against them.

      • Jamie says:

        Good for Adam Schiff, who just held a press conference of his own. Check out Schiff’s twitter for his comments.

    • adastraperaspera says:

      John McCain just told Greta S. that an independent committee needs to be set up now. That’s great, because it’s what I can tell my red state senators when I call tomorrow.

      It doesn’t take a genius to guess that Tr*mp/Bannon gave this info to Nunes and made him do this, so that they could get the House committee shut down before their next televised hearing meeting. Now we’ll have to wait (for how long?) for the independent to be set up. It may even keep us from seeing the Senate committee hearing take place. They are dastardly.

    • robyn says:

      I think Nunes was also trying to muddy the waters because the Manafort/Russia connection is being highlighted in more detail right now. I wouldn’t put it past Trump to covertly have someone hand the info to Nunes. I’m guessing Nunes had no clue Trump already knew this stuff and that this could be what compelled Trump to come up with the Obama wiretapping excuse. The Trump team couldn’t foresee that the horrible attack in London would happen … that would have been distracting enough.

      When Trump won, it felt like death to me, too, Kaiser.

  33. LA Elle says:

    I know I’ve already commented a ton on this post, but I just wanted to say I really liked this post. There’s so much going on that it’s nice to have it all collected in one place with bullet points. I honestly wish more website would do that – you know, a sort of “here’s how Trump is screwing over America today.”

  34. Eric says:

    Nunes obstruction of justice!

  35. Christina says:

    Just wanted to say a big thank you to Kaiser for continuing to cover politics. It is so much appreciated. I used to just check in on politics on the Sunday morning shows; now everything has changed.

    • HappyMom says:

      I watch Morning Joe-which I haven’t done in years-and read The Hill. I love being on this site with like minded people. Thank you so much Kaiser for covering this!

    • april says:

      Yes, I also enjoy these political articles. Thank you, Kaiser, and all of the intelligent posters.

  36. Lightpurple says:

    Things are getting insane tonight.

    Cheeto Mussolini, Grand Vizir of Constantinople’s Motherf*ckers (did I get that right, QQ?) bragged on Twitter about offering condolences to Britain

    Nunes ran to Trump to warn him and breached his duty by revealing Trump associates were INDIRECTLY under surveillance – which means others were being watched for criminal activity and the Trump crew was contacted by/or contacted them

    Schiff is ripping Nunes to shreds and probably filing an ethics complaint

    Apparently, we’re paying for a lot more than just security on Princess Plastic’s trip to Aspen

    Donald Trump Jr just insulted the Mayor of London over today’s terrorist attack

    McCain is demanding a special prosecutor for investigation

    FBI just announced it has more than circumstantial evidence that Trump’s crew colluded with Russia to release damaging information on Clinton (BTW, I never considered what they had on her all that horrible)

    Trump & Ryan are meeting to make Trumpcare even worse, now proposing to strip health care regulations of “essential benefits,” which means an insurer can sell you “health insurance” that covers pretty much nothing.

    • Maria says:

      do you have links for these two: thx.

      Apparently, we’re paying for a lot more than just security on Princess Plastic’s trip to Aspen

      Donald Trump Jr just insulted the Mayor of London over today’s terrorist attack

  37. brincalhona says:

    I have a couple of questions that I hope super-smart, clued-up Celebitchers can answer for me.
    1) Hillary won the popular vote and Trump got the electoral college votes. Is there a way that those electoral college votes could have been influenced/tampered with by Russia and nullify the result?
    2) If Trump is ousted and his tenure deemed illegal, does he have to pay back every cent he’s cost the Americans? (I’d love to see the case of the United States vs Trump where he has to refund the cost of the election, the travel and security costs, and people get compensation for stress he’s caused, plus a bit added on for how much the family has grifted. It’s a beautiful fantasy.)
    Re the comments about how he will leave office, I’m leaning towards a Robert Maxwell-esque finale.

    • Luca76 says:

      Look historically speaking there’s no precedent for an election being invalidated in the US. For instance Kennedy almost certainly used the mafia to rig the election in Illinois over Nixon and Bush only won because of a very controversial Supreme Court decision and those are just the incidents that I can sight in the modern era.
      The problem with Trump remains that the government is constrained by a sense of decorum…Kennedy and Bush for the most part acted within the constraints of constitutional law.