The Times of London dusted off Valentine Low this weekend and tasked him with writing an exceptionally unhinged piece about the Duke and Duchess of Sussex. As it turns out, an emotional-support poll was commissioned as soon as the news broke of the “secret peace summit” between representatives for the Sussexes and King Charles. Once again, there’s the conflation of “father and son are taking the first steps for reconciliation” with “obviously, the Sussexes are trying to come back to the UK to live and work!” That’s what the poll is about: “would the British public ‘support’ the Sussexes returning to the UK to become working royals?” Nevermind that the Sussexes have no interest in any of this BS and have “no intention of moving back to the UK.” You should have seen my expression when I read the first part of Low’s bonkers piece, as he spun out a fantasy of Meghan and Harry standing on the fakakta balcony for Trooping the Colour in 2027.
Low’s fantasy: It is a Saturday in June 2027, and the crowds have gathered outside Buckingham Palace to see the royal family watch the traditional flypast after Trooping the Colour. As the family gathers on the balcony, the eyes of the crowd — and, more importantly, the lenses of the photographers — are not focused on the King. They are not even watching Prince Louis, now nine, and still more than capable of stealing the show. They only have eyes for two people: the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, back in the royal fold after years of self-imposed exile in California. As the Sussexes stand there, Meghan offering her most dazzling smile while Harry yet again finds himself incapable of hiding the hint of a scowl, they are greeted with … well, what, apart from the incessant clicking of camera shutters? Cheers? Boos? Or a confusing mixture of the two? Shockingly, could it even be indifference? The Sussexes are not used to indifference.
The tantalizing possibilities: [The peace summit] immediately sparked much speculation about where it might lead. After years of hurling abuse at his family from the other side of the Atlantic, does Harry want to kiss and make up? Might Harry and Meghan be considering coming back to the UK — if not on a permanent basis, then at least for part of the year? Most tantalising of all, could they even be thinking about undertaking occasional royal duties? That is all a long way off. Even though Harry has appeared to have been in more conciliatory mood of late — talking of whether his family is prepared to forgive him, rather than peppering every interview with angry demands for apologies from them — neither of them have looked like they are getting ready to move back into Frogmore Cottage any time soon.
The emotional-support poll: But the intriguing question is: if they do come back, if only for a bit, how will they go down with the British public? Even if Harry is prepared to forgive and forget, are we? Up to a point, seems to be the answer. Nearly a quarter of people (24 per cent) think that it would be a good thing if Harry came back to live in the UK, according to a YouGov poll for The Sunday Times, while 22 per cent think that it would be a bad thing. By far the most common answer is, however, an indifferent one: 41 per cent said they don’t care, either way. But many people really do not like Meghan: 41 per cent think her return would be a bad thing, against 12 per cent who think it would be a good idea, though 35 per cent are indifferent. The over-60s are much more likely to be anti-Meghan, with 64 per cent of the 65 and over age group against her return compared with 17 per cent of 18 to 24s. There is a similar split on the question of whether they should take up royal duties again (32 per cent for Harry and 27 per cent against, and 14 per cent for Meghan and 48 per cent against).
Sarah Hewson on a potential Sussex return: “It really depends on how they come back, and on what terms,” Hewson said. “It would really take Charles as the King to pave the way for them coming back…Were there to be reconciliation with William as well, and were we to see forgiveness on all sides, then I think that people would be very happy to see Harry back in the bosom of his family.”
Tessa Dunlop on the potential Sussex reentry: “We were hurt. That’s why there was this vitriolic outpouring against Harry and Meghan. They dumped us, and it was really painful, so we slagged them off a lot. We would love it if they came back. If we didn’t care, if we thought they were total losers, we would stop taking an interest in them. But we loved them. We recognised their charisma and their star power.” It is, however, a complex picture. People will find it harder to forgive Meghan than Harry. But there will be a warmer welcome from the young, who were always more prepared to see Harry and Meghan as victims of a hidebound royal family rather than the instigators of their own downfall.
Five and a half years after Harry, Meghan and Archie left, it turns out that all it took was one meeting between their representatives and Charles’s rep. That was all it took for every royal reporter to completely lose whatever tenuous grasp on reality they had previously. It really only took ONE WEEK to go from “maybe Charles and Harry will talk in person at some point” to “the Sussexes are going to appear on the balcony in 2027, and the British public will BOO THEM because everyone hates Meghan!” If anything, THIS reaction should give Harry pause, regardless of how much he wants to speak to his father. His father is partly in control of this story – Charles’s office clearly leaked details about the meeting, and Charles is now sitting back and watching as the press attack the Sussexes AND the Waleses. Harry has a pure heart – his father does not. Be wary of everything that comes with this attempted reconciliation, H.
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Bonkers again from the Low rat.
Haven’t seen the Lazies for over a week Valentine, where are they? Missing from public duties yet again?
As for this:
“Harry yet again finds himself incapable of hiding the hint of a scowl”
Willy you mean 😂
““We were hurt. That’s why there was this vitriolic outpouring against Harry and Meghan. They dumped us, and it was really painful, so we slagged them off a lot.”
Oh bugger off Tessa. You rats nearly killed Meghan and didn’t one of you wished that Archie would be dangled over the balcony?
So this faux hurt isn’t helping you. No admission that it was the vitriol from the press egged on by the Palaces that ran them out of the country.
Find the smallest violin for your crocodile tears. No one cares what you rats think.
The Wales are on their fifth (I think) vacation right now on a luxurious yacht on the Ionian sea (having used a private jet to travel)… but, no, no criticism of them…just they just keep talking about Meghan and Harry for simply existing and being more charismatic than the Wales…
Ooooh, whose jet and yacht I wonder. Quid pro quo? Westminster’s? Any links to the pix? Did the Middletons join them? 😂
But yes, do go on Valentine and discuss the balcony fantasy scenario instead of asking why your FUTURE HEAD OF STATE is slacking off again and behaving like a dictator’s son.
Actually, yes, reports said that Kate’s parents are with them…no pics of the family, just the yacht…for now at least
This is such a disgrace. When will the public who help fund the lazy ones complain and loudly. Where are the complaints
So why did they go, Tessa? 😂 What was the reason for the never-ending vitriol BEFORE they ‘dumped’ you? The reason they left.
The family’s arrival on the island was carried out in complete secrecy, on a private jet from London, which landed at Kefalonia airport. Immediately afterwards, they boarded a luxury van, always under the discreet presence of their personal guard.
According to information from the website kefaloniafocus.com, the royal family, after arriving on the island and their brief stay in Kefalonia, boarded a luxury yacht , aiming to enjoy a peaceful, family vacation in the serene waters of the Ionian Sea.
@LadyD must be Greek related then. Would be hilarious if he was on a yacht that belonged to the Greek Royal Family or adjacent to that family, given that Willy couldn’t be arsed to attend his godfather’s memorial service.
But hey, Willy will go at the promise of a private jet and holiday 😂 So much for his Earthshit credentials.
@FirstComment the Middleton question was a joke but clearly this family has fully accustomed itself to high level grifting.
So where’s Valentine’s scoop on this? It would attract more clicks I can assure you.
I cant even wrap my head around the laziness and entitlement of that family. They vacation twice as much as they work.
Where is the Rota reader fatigue? I realize their constituency is older folks like boomers who are, Monarchists, but it NEVER cease to amaze me that such ppl CONSISTENTLY turn out to hate the Sussexes in the comments. The only shift Ive see is just a bit more criticism of William and Kate, being called lazy.
The Rota has run the same stories over and over and over. The only thing I pay attention to is WHO is writing them. Valentine is Charles’ man, while Rebecca English and Richard Eden (who said he wanted to cry when H&M. left) works for the Waleses.
Harry and Meghan would NEVER, as sensible people, return to that trauma themselves and DA*AMN sure wouldnt subject their children to it.
The Monarchy KNOWS it needs Harry and Meghan, but it cant have them.
Game over!!
RR and tabs suspect that Will will never emerge from his 23 years and counting BRAT summer hence the strong desire for H and Meghan to return to pick up the slack and provide the substance lacking from the eternal playboy! Dream on , they have made their own bed and must lie in it with Wilbur!!
“We were hurt. That’s why there was this vitriolic outpouring against Harry and Meghan. They dumped us, and it was really painful, so we slagged them off a lot. We would love it if they came back. If we didn’t care, if we thought they were total losers, we would stop taking an interest in them. But we loved them.”
This is true except for the “But we loved them.” No they don’t. They do NOT love Harry and Meghan. They want them back to abuse them and possibly physically hurt them. I hope Harry and Meghan never go back and stay safe in their little space on California.
The only thing they loved was the money they made off of harassing them. I’m glad they made it clear that they’re NEVER moving back to the UK. M&H have done well in starving the UK media. I hope it continues.
i do think there was a level of hurt….betrayal….something when H&M left. first, i think there were assurances that it wouldn’t happen, that they could write what they wanted about H&M and nothing would change. and I also think the RRs thought that Meghan should be so happy and grateful that she was allowed on that balcony at all, that she would never say “nope not for me” AND that Harry would never ever walk away with her.
They overplayed their hand in a huge way and I don’t know if they (the RRs) will ever recover. thats not “love” obviously though.
Agree, Becks1. I do think I’d group that majority of over-65’s with the RRs. They did love Harry and were/are mad at him for leaving. Feel jilted.
I actually loved that they actually reported that the younger gen are much more supportive & less anti-Sussex. If I’m part of the Firm, that’s who I care about – the future financial support of the monarchy rests on the younger gen feelings of affection.
ETA – I see you say the same thing below! And better of course 🙂
It’s an especially stupid poll because Harry and Meghan aren’t coming back and nobody that truly supports Meghan would want her back in the UK. The Windsors get booed all the time in the UK so why is Low fixated on a small number of boos from 3 years ago!
Those boos were for a van or something blocking the view of the Sussexes, other than a few people paid to boo, the story was a load of BS.
The BM couldn’t believe that a black woman would walk away from what they think is the pinnacle of society.
Now Meghan don’t even leave Heathrow airport on a stopover.
British people will boo literally anything, it’s a miserable country (I’m British so I know from first hand experience)
If there were really those many boos, they would use the video of it in every story about H&M. The truth is, Boris got booed so loudly, the reporters said, this is what boos sound like. It was so funny how tabloids made it headlines news how H&M are gonna get booed by the public in order to encourage people to do it and in the end it was their own guy who got it 😂😂
Also, at their last public outing, the carriage of Kate AND children got booed by protestors and most british media didn’t show that in order to hide the unpopularity of W&K like they always do.
The Daily Excess was actively encouraging people to boo them at the time.
Why would it be indifference? If you’re fantasizing about it 2 years before it could potentially happen ( not really) what makes you think that the crowd wouldn’t be interested either?
Harry has clearly said my family is not coming back here until they receive adequate security. Meghan herself has not intimated in any interview, by posting any caption, that she longs to come back and do any sort of event with that family. If she wouldn’t come to the coronation in 2023 why would she do Trooping in 2027? It’s not like you’ve gotten nicer to her.
Their sense of superiority which is misplaced, and their egos, refuse to allow them to admit that they made a mistake. They know that the dysfunctional marriage, the bullying, the rotating staff, the laziness, the grifting, is traits of people in the BRF but not Harry and Meghan, and they can’t admit they were wrong. So they’ll keep writing these screeds in which somehow Meghan and Harry still come back, are still humiliated, and they weren’t wrong.
“It was really painful so we slagged them off a lot,” talk about changing history, until they left the country the comment sections in the tabs were filled with racial abuse of Meghan, of course they left, the people don’t want a mixed race woman in the royal family and the comments made that clear. I even saw Archie described using the language of the slave trade.
“people just dont like meghan!!” says one of the people who has spent close to a decade badmouthing her constantly.
But the number of young people who DO like meghan should worry the Firm. the hardcore royalists are aging, and the younger generation that W&K are so desperate to connect with via their IG reels and the like…….are Meghan fans.
Low is usually writing lies about the Sussexes. Now he writes fantasy.
They’re obsessed with that flipping balcony!! 🤣
Lazy is obsessed with that balcony. That photo above is where she frog marched in front and centre of the balcony to make sure the focus was on HER and Meghan was in her beige outfit and hat and chilling at the back, not interested in claiming the limelight that Lazy knew she was losing out to her. That was a really awkward moment for Lazy.
@Blogger, that was WEIRD. I was watching real-time & was like “what?” Either she had orders to do that from someone in the RF, or she took it on herself. But the intentionality and determination to center stage was odd to watch.
Gotta love the way the BM keeps on “forgetting” about the Sussexes’ kids…🤬🤬🤬
Femingra has an interesting article on how Chuck and Will are using H and M again in their fight for control. A reconciliation is not likely but just the suggestion that Chuck is “gracious and forgiving” is good for his image on every level. Low is Chuck’s mouth piece and this fantasy full article of H and M returning to the balcony is purely to antagonise Will. Will has some kind of Terminator fantasy going about his own brother: shudders: once bad ass Bill banishes ya, you stay banished!!
https://share.google/R46D47M5HM1GQKSjt
Yikes, this is very interesting article. Doesn’t break new ground, but connects all the dots very clearly.
This whole story doesn’t make sense to me: why would William want to expose to the public that his father plans to have Harry at his own funeral, and why would Charles want to shut it down? If having Harry at his funeral is truly Charles’s wish, the only way to help ensure that it happens is to make this plan public. Everyone knows William will disrespect his father’s wishes, otherwise.
ETA: it makes more sense that the leak came from Camilla, who is always interested in creating chaos in father-son relations, while keeping her own hands clean.
Harry explained in the Netflix doc: once plans are made public, they’re almost guaranteed to fail because now the public knows and is involved and consensus goes out the window while people nitpick and argue over it.
This was partially said in relation to H&M’s plan to move to South Africa, which Will leaked to the Times paper, to Tim Shipman, a then politics reporter, in April 2019. After the plan was leaked, it was cancelled. Will also leaked H&M’s plans to leave to Dan Wooton who tried to blackmail them about it, but the Sussexes posted on Instagram and took over (briefly) the narrative of the story.
Of course, a man who rage screams his hatred of his brother to the Daily Beast every Thursday would want to leak funeral plans that put the same brother (and his wife that Will was obsessed with for years before Harry met her) front and center at a state event where he (will would be king.
Imo, it was also Will that leaked Harry’s location in the army and forced him to return, conveniently, to do the work Will didn’t want to do and managed to get out of for some 15 years.
@Lady Digby – Thanks for reminder to check in with Feminegra, and esp Ms Historyn. Speaking of which, what she wrote about Diane Abbott, the UK’s first Black woman MP being suspended by Labour Party was a shocker. WTF is Labour going batspit over true comments about colorism and easily recognizable visual cues to treat people poorly? Thought Labour was more progressive 🙁
I think Diane Abbots big mistake was to say that it is easier for racists to attack black people rather than Jewish people because Western European Jews don’t look Jewish, they look Western European. They don’t look like Semites either. So unless they either dress in a Jewish manner or are famous they will be left alone. Lady Starmer is Jewish so Sir Keir was extra sensitive. Of course Diana was right. It is blindingly obvious.
Valentine Low seems to have forgotten that only working royals are allowed on the balcony. This piece is the only way the press will admit that they want Harry and Meghan to come and that they regret pushing the Palace reject Harry’s half in proposal.
So, in this fantasy, both the crowd and the press ignore Charles and Louis, instead focusing all eyes on H&M. And this somehow spells indifference? Lol, perhaps indifference toward Charles.
It’s like when your forty-something single friend waxes eloquent about whether their high school crush who has long since been happily married to someone else will come to the 25th reunion party
Lolol. The perfect simile.
I am guessing, H&M are gonna be grandparents and we will still read about how they are gonna return any minute now with their children and grandchildren. They are that obsessed.
Low was Knauf’s contact in the Times of London but I don’t think he is writing for KP here. Ultimately he is one of Murdoch’s men. He resurfaces to test the waters before the British media slowly prepares the public to accept and welcome the Sussexes. The same public that they have brainwashed to hate the Sussexes before. Because the press needs the Sussex content on British soil. Watch how the press put the pressure on the royal family to make up with Harry and Meghan as they convince the public to welcome them.
Low fantasizing about the Balcony two years into the future is the start of their pathetic campaign to rewrite history. Imagine the storylines. The British press is good at making the public want what the press wants. Harry knows this. He will not trust them.
Low has a new book coming out soon that’s the real reason why he was given this assignment to write this fanfic.
Another one? Oh joy. Lemme guess. It’s about the Sussexes. And even if he says it’s not, it is. The obsession is real. I’ll never forget how Low went on and on about how dismissive Meghan was towards him when he briefly interviewed her in South Africa. And then you see the video and she was lovely. Some of these people writing are suffering from some real issues, unhinged delusions, no sense of reality and high levels of cruelty. Meghan was lovely towards him and he painted that whole exchange in a completely different light, purposely trying to make her seem terrible when she just wasn’t.
@Jais: This new book is supposed to be about the history of the monarch’s relationship with the Prime Minister but I wouldn’t be surprised if the excerpts are all about Harry and Meghan and/or Diana.
For sure, we will hear what every prime minister past, present and future thought, would have thought or will think about Meghan and Harry. With a little Diana added, sure. Exciting stuff/s.
I agree this is the rats’ way of pressuring the palaces to bring the l Sussexes back but given their schizophrenic writing towards them, I doubt it will be successful.
Low was also the one who was recorded boasting that he had been informed that M had been struggling – the palace TOLD him about M’s suicide ideation and he gleefully doubled down on the abuse and also joined his fellow rota rats in calling her a liar when the truth came out.
This is getting ridiculous. The Times was at one time considered to be a serious paper. It was the paper of record but their royal coverage has been worse than the Mails in recent years. Emotional Support is the best description for this. My opinion is Meghan is done with the Royals the press and the institution can’t handle this and her success is really freaking them out
The RF/BM and citizens have zero faith in PPOW. They all know PPOW are out of touch, boring, lazy and incompetent to do the work. They know William n Kate will be a freakin nightmare if they ascended the throne. Auntie Anne like the rest of that family knows they’re useless and don’t GAF about work. It’s about to go down. The only cancer in that family is Camila, William n Kate. The press is grooming Louis to be the new Spare. These morons will never learn.
So it is better for harry to re turn alone so he can be popular with whoever took the biased polls. Fantasy land for these writers. The royals were booed at the trooping and protest signs all around
And harry can be under domination of obsessed older brother.
Yeah idk even know what to say. Harry wants to open communication up with his dad bc as he said he doesn’t even know long he has left. His team told People he’s happy in Cali. It’s like rota writers are childishly putting their fingers in their ears and singing over the basic facts of reality.
Dunlop should speak for herself not use the word we. The derangers never liked Meghan but pretend they did. And the royals like Charles and William can do no wrong. Such bias.
Gee, I wonder why Meghan is being singled out for hatred. It’s not qwhite clear.
qwhite, very clever.
The Sussex rebuttal in People for a UK return really unnerved the rota rats. The BM hates it when a US publication makes monkeys out of them. This mess is for the BM to save face.
Tessa Dunlop is a bitter ex. The sussexes left and she can’t stand it. Dunlop forgets how the derangers treated Meghan from the get go. Even those deranger petitions to stop the wedding.
“Even though Harry has appeared to have been in more conciliatory mood of late — talking of whether his family is prepared to forgive him…”
— I beg your pardon: Harry has never talked about his family’s forgiving *him*. That’s not the direction forgiveness needs to go.
Interesting that Low doesn’t picture Prince Archie or Princess Lilibet also on the balcony with their first cousins, aunt, uncle and grandfather.
Even in his fevered dream of reconciliation he still can’t bring himself to see Harry as a whole person as husband and father. He only mentions Meghan in the context of a lie that she was boo’d…she wasn’t . Low completely erased Harry’s children, not mentioned once. Such a strange and incomplete vision of a family reuniting.
This has nothing to do with reconciliation, it is about getting Harry to pick up William’s slack. They don’t want Meghan nor his children to be seen as royals. Also, to clean up Charles’ image as a deadbeat dad.
Actually, I think for once BP and KP are in cahoots and agreement as this “reconciliation” will only benefit the two of them. The leaks from BP came from Camilla, Lady Littlefinger, “Chaos is a ladder”. Funeral plans and conversations with gardeners are too intimate for William to know. Windsor don’t share private information with each oter. Remember when William and Harry spent a whole tour in Africa togther Harry found out a few days afterwards via the newspapers, that William had asked Kate to marry. There is no way William would know what is going on in Charles private life. They were never close and less so these days. So far, she has gotten a lot of useless titles but wasn’t able to snatch Royal Lodge from Andrew. That was to be her families seat of power inside the Windsor palace walls for the next 75+ years. Nor has she been able to get her kids titles. I give William credit for keeping them out of the Christmas church walk even though they were at the lunch. She is panicking… hence her misstep trying to overshadow Kate at Wimbledon.
I doubt that Royal Lodge would be safe for her, after Charles dies. If William really wanted her gone, a lease wouldn’t protect her.
I’m going with your theory because it’s the most plausible to me.
People think William is the garden leaker, but William would need spies at High Grove to know private conversations Charles is having with his staff in the garden. I just don’t think William has the smarts or the drive it would take to get away with something like that, and we sure as heck know he’s not hanging out there interrogating Charles’ staff himself!
Camilla absolutely has the most to lose from Charles reconciling with Harry. If that happens, I’m certain, for Charles to save face, the Press will make her the scapegoat for the entire thing. Harry already set up that narrative in Spare by outright calling her the villain.
Exactly, reconciliation only benefits Charles and William. William’s. anger is him trying to save face and hold some leverage over Harry if he accepts.
Remember when Meghan was pregnant at an event with the whole family (white outfit), she kissed Charles and Camilla hello and Camilla went over to Kate and gestured about Meghan’s bump making fun of her. She is a pot stirrer and has consistently played the brothers off of each other… since forever.
Meghan and Harry are having a lunch date and laughing their asses off over as ever rose as they hear the screaming from afar, come back we needdddd you pleaseeeee don’t leave us with Willy won’t work and Katie can’t work
That we were “hurt.” And “indifferent” The royal family? No the royal rota. Make up your minds why doncha?!
Bwahahaha! The rota are openly admitting that the pale, stale left-behinds are tiresome and don’t bring the clicks. They’re begging the only superstars of the royal family to come back, if only to stand on the balcony and share their stardust and sparkle with the lame boors whose jealousy chased them away, while throwing a lifeboat to the struggling rota whose careers are fading away.
They opened this can of worms. Let them lay in it.😍
The royal rata are really bored with W&K. They are basically saying it to their faces in that article. The only star power that family had is now happily living in California.
To me feels like the writers are venting about themselves- being bitter about HM as Their own careers aren’t as lucrative as it once was . Maybe panicking about what’s going to happen to them in the near future. Also with AI starting to come in, who knows what the media landscape will look like by then or if they’ll even have a job in 2027. But they have their own selves to blame.
👀 AITA for leaving my toxic family and refusing to come back on their terms?
*Throwaway account for obvious reasons*
I (40M) need some perspective here because my family is making me feel like I’m going crazy. Long story short, I left my family “business” a few years ago with my wife (42F) and our kids because the situation had become completely toxic and unsafe.
Here’s the background: My family has this weird relationship with the press where they’ll leak stories about family members to deflect from their own scandals. For years, they used my wife as a scapegoat. The press coverage got so vicious that she was getting constant death threats. I’m talking serious, credible threats that required security intervention.
When our first child was born, a large social media post compared my newborn son to a monkey. My family said absolutely nothing. Radio silence. But they had plenty to say when we wore the “wrong” color or shut our own car door.
The breaking point came when they pulled my promised security detail – something I’d had since birth due to obvious safety concerns – and then somehow our private address in Canada ended up plastered across every tabloid front page. We had to flee the country because of photographers and crazies were showing up.
After we officially stepped back, they spent an entire year feeding negative stories about us to the UK press. It felt deliberate – like they were trying to destroy any chance we had of building independent lives or business relationships.
We stayed quiet for a whole year, but eventually did one interview to set the record straight about why we left. They lost their minds and accused us of “betraying the family.” Later, we did a documentary series and I wrote a book about my experiences because I wanted my side of the story on record in case something happened to me.
Their retaliation was swift: they kicked us out of the family property in the UK, given to us by my late grandmother, which was essentially my only safe house there. Now I can’t even visit with my children because we have nowhere secure to stay or security.
Here’s where I might be TA: My father (75M) is quite ill and probably doesn’t have much time left. I reached out recently hoping to rebuild some kind of relationship – maybe find a way to visit safely, be there for him during this difficult time. Basic human decency, right?
But somehow they’ve twisted this into thinking I’m “begging to come back to work” for the family business. They’re acting like they’re doing ME a favor by considering it, but only if I come back alone – without my wife and children. They want me to apologize for everything and basically pretend the last few years didn’t happen.
They’re painting themselves as the victims in all this, saying I’ve hurt the family reputation and abandoned my duties. Some relatives and family friends are telling me I should just suck it up and apologize “for the greater good.”
But here’s the thing – nothing has actually changed. The same people who orchestrated the campaign against my wife are still there. The same toxic system that drove us out is still in place. They haven’t acknowledged any wrongdoing or made any real changes. They just want me to come back and play nice while leaving my family behind.
My wife thinks I shouldn’t even be considering it. She says they’ve shown who they are and believes they’ll just go back to their old patterns once the immediate crisis with my father passes. She’s worried about our children’s safety and mental health.
I’m torn because I love my father and want to be there for him, but I can’t abandon my wife and kids or pretend that years of psychological warfare didn’t happen.
So Reddit, AITA for refusing to go back on their terms? Should I be the bigger person and apologize just to keep the peace? Or am I right to protect my immediate family first?
*TL;DR: Left toxic family situation years ago due to safety concerns and harassment of my wife. Father is ill and I want to reconcile, but they’re demanding I apologize and return without my wife/kids. AITA for refusing?*
*EDIT:* To those asking why I don’t just visit quietly without the media circus – that’s exactly what I’ve been trying to do. The media attention isn’t something I’m seeking, but it follows me regardless. The security issue is real – without official protection and a safe place to stay, any visit becomes a logistical nightmare and puts everyone at risk.
No they are not. Most people in the UK do not want them back, as WE have to pay for them!