Is Tom Cruise terrified he’ll be asked to take a paternity test?

Katie Holmes

For the first time in weeks, there are no new Katie Holmes and Suri Cruise photos to show off with the tabloid stories. At present, Suri is still with Tom after flying away in a helicopter after he swooped in and smiled at the paps in New York City a few days ago. So we’ll have to make do with some recycled pictures of Katie and Suri enjoying their freedom as well as some photos of Tom looking generally insane.

First up for this Friday roundup — Katie Holmes is focusing on rebuilding her career since (obviously) marrying Tom did nothing for her professional profile. In addition to gearing up to produce a feature film called Molly, which she also wrote and is starring in about a single mother and her daughter, Katie is preparing to return to Broadway this fall with a role in a dark comedy called Dead Accounts. She previously appeared in the 2008 revival of Arthur Miller’s All My Sons and, according to one review, “did not embarrass herself.” At the time, that particular critic also mentioned that he had met Katie before she hooked up with Tom and that she mentioned that “she wanted to do plays.” Here’s her chance to get back to that now that she’s done with the unhinged, lift-wearing midget.

Now let’s move onto the tabloids, who are still very much enjoying the aftermath of the TomKat split. A story in this week’s Enquirer presents a picture of a horrified-looking Tom above little floating insets of Chris Klein, Josh Hartnett, and Joshua Jackson with a headline that alleges his fear of having to take a paternity test one day. To up the drama, the Enquirer poses the theory that the test might just be requested by Suri:

Tom Cruise

Katie Holmes and Tom Cruise’s abrupt divorce has once against given rise to unbelievable new questions about their daughter Suri’s paternity, and Tom is absolutely outraged over the persistent lies and crazy rumors, say sources. The 50-year-old star will be most disturbed over suppositions that Suri will someday ask him to take a paternity test to prove he’s her father.

“Tom is furious that rumors over whether or not he’s Suri’s biological dad persist, and he’s completely outraged that the chatter has intensified since his split with Katie,” revealed a source close to Cruise. “Tom loves that little girl with all his heart and his priority in life is keeping a strong father-daughter bond despite his and Katie’s bust-up. In fact, the reason he fast-tracked the divorce settlement is because he wanted to ensure that he’d never have issues seeing Suri or being a big part of her life.

Since Katie blindsided Tom with the divorce filing, outrageous rumors have exploded on the Internet, with one website suggesting that actor josh Hartnett could be Suri’s daddy. And another insists that Suri is the spitting image of Katie’s “Dawson’s Creek” co-star Joshua Jackson. “I think she was pregnant when she met Tom,” writes a poster.

As The Enquirer reported, Tom and Katie didn’t allow the public to see Suri for the first three months of her life, causing even more absurd speculation. It was widely rumored that since Tom hadn’t fathered children with his previous ex-wives, actresses Mimi Rogers and Nicole Kidman, Suri was a “test tube” baby — and even more outrageous, that Katie had been impregnated with the frozen sperm of long-dead Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard.

When the proud parents finally showed off their bundle of joy — with her thick shock of dark hair and piercing blue, almond-shaped eyes — in Vanity Fair magazine in October 2006, a new round of even more vicious lies exploded. Some Internet bloggers insisted that Suri looked Asian, while others noted that she resembled Katie’s last boyfriend, actor Chris Klein.

“If Suri’s schoolmates know about the questions surrounding her dad, they could certainly tease her about it,” Dr. Terry Lyles, a Florida-based psychologist says. “And if Suri is bothered by the rumors, there’s a pretty good chance that she’ll eventually ask for a paternity test. Girls are very concerned with their identity. Knowing their biological father is crucial to their self-esteem.”

But taking a DNA test would be humiliating for Tom, a long time friend of Katie’s told The Enquirer. “Tom’s not going to like it, but there will very likely come a point when he may be forced to take a paternity test. With his seemingly unyielding need for control, Tom will most likely resist the test until the bitter end. He might have to choose between swallowing his pride, which he’s not used to doing, or possibly sacrificing his relationship with Suri.”

[From Enquirer, print edition, July 30, 2012]

Oddly enough, The Enquirer leaves out the persistent rumors that Suri could also be the offspring of Tommy Davis, head of the Scientology Celebrity Centre, but whatever. While I’m the first to admit that this story gives me a chuckle because I’m generally a big fan of whatever happens to infuriate Tom Cruise, in this instance, I actually feel slightly sorry for the guy because I really do believe that Suri is his biological child. To me, she truly does look like perfect physical hybrid of Tom and Katie. Seriously! I’m not even trying to be funny about this topic. There are plenty of things over which to pick on Tom, but I don’t buy into the conspiracy theories surrounding Suri’s parentage.

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This week’s In Touch has a story about how Tom has a secret plan to “lull Katie into a false sense of security” (which we’ve already discussed in terms of Tom believing that nothing’s really been settled) by the settlement and that “Katie is watching her back,” which is good practice for the future because she’ll be doing so for the rest of her life.

Finally, this week’s Star also has a TomKat story, which is mainly about the hilarity that Kaiser already covered in regard to Katie’s alleged sexy, supersecret rendezvous with Chris Klein. Since Tom, in general, supposedly feels utterly “humiliated” by Katie’s divorce filing, it follows that he’s now “infuriated” to think that Katie could be hooking up with Chris just days after their divorce was finalized. He’s also supposedly wondering if this means that Katie has been cheating on him with Chris for quite some time now, and he has allegedly been trying to get the truth out of Katie on this issue, but she won’t take his calls. While I don’t doubt that Katie has been refusing phone calls from Tom, there are a million reasons why this would be the case … and none of them probably have anything to do with the American Pie guy. Just saying.

UPDATE: People just published a story about Tom and Suri’s recent helicopter ride out of NYC, which Tom supposedly thinks will help “minimize the disruption” in Suri’s world: “He’s going to try, despite all the attention, to have things be as normal as possible.” Like I’ve been saying all along, Tom just doesn’t have a clue on what “normal” really means, does he?

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  1. carlino altoviti says:

    It could be an embarrassing thing for TC and CO, but from the legal point of view nothing changes: TC is legally the father of Suri.
    Well, I also think Tom is the biological father of Suri is impossible that Kate attended C.K. or another man without that CO does not know. They are everywhere.

    • beyonce's bump says:


    • Ruby Red Lips says:

      Totally agree

      Also I think Suri looks just like TC at certain angles, she’s def his biological daughter

      • Molly says:

        You have to look up Tommy Davis. Suri is the spitting image of Tommy Davis. Her moodiness is also very much like TD’s—he’s apparently a rageaholic.

      • Sean says:

        I just looked up Tommy Davis. Suri has the same eyes. Wow. I just always assumed that Tom was the father, but a turkey baster and two or three muscular men were involved to help Tom along.

      • Ann Emmess says:

        So Suri looks like Tommy Davis, who looks a lot like Tom, and she acts like Tommy Davis, who acts a lot like Tom?

      • Sabrine says:

        This is one of the dumbest things I’ve read in a long time. Suri has Tom Cruise’s face for heaven’s sake. There is no doubt whose child she is. The fact that people are still trying to pin skinny nosed Chris Klein as the father is beyond ridiculous!

      • Emily says:

        Tommy Davis, Tom Cruise, and Katie Holmes all look like each other. Suri looks most like her mom, and I see no reason to doubt that she’s Tom Cruise’s biological child.

        I’m sure you’ve known many people who do not look like perfect mixtures of their parents. Do you think there’s something fishy about all their conceptions? I once saw a picture online of a guy who looked almost exactly like one of my ex-boyfriends with a girl who looked almost exactly like me. Coincidence, not conspiracy.

      • Ruby Red Lips says:

        @ Molly, I did look him up & agreed he does look just like TC – spookily so!

        However I think @ Ann Emmess hit the nail on the head & I still stand by Suri is TC’s biological daughter

      • Texas40 says:

        I’ve never seen him before but wow! This pic is scary similar to Suri:

      • deehunny says:

        OMG she really does look a lot like Tommy Davis. I always thought she looked like Cruise but after seeing that picture I’m unsure.

    • Roma says:

      I agree. I have never thought that Tom was the biological father, but he is Suri’s legal parent. Blood test would not change that.

      Now if Chris Klein or whomever tried to sue for custody, that would be a whole different ballgame.

      • Suzy (from Ontario, Canada) says:

        I agree.

      • Aubra says:

        LMAO!! If Chris Klein tried to do that, I can’t even say that was cold blooded! I can’t even say that is bold/brave but rather stupid! You’re a washed up alchoholic trying to sue a worth nearly a billion dollar, steady working inspite of how flopulous, influential mega star…I totally believe Chris Klein would try it! LOL

    • Bobby sue says:

      Katie was pregnant almost within the instant of meeting Tom. Even the most fertile take a few months of trying. Very suspicious, which leads to the procedural pregnancy conclusion.
      Tom would want to share DNA with the child so likely sperm donor would be family. Look at William Mapother. No question.

      • RobN says:

        Even the most fertile take a few months of trying? Careful, if you believe that, you’re going to end up with a house full of children and not know where they came from.

      • Ruby Red Lips says:

        “Even the most fertile take a few months of trying”

        Yes thats why people who only have s3x once or twice & people who have 1 night stands never get pregnant…doh!

        @ RobN – love your reply, made me chuckle 😉

      • Emily says:

        It doesn’t take everyone “months of trying” to get pregnant. Biology doesn’t work that way. For many people, it only takes one night and one broken condom.

      • MollyB says:

        If a fertile woman has unprotected sex during the 3-4 day ovulation window, she has about a 20% chance of getting pregnant. So, for some women, it can take a few months. Others will get pregnant that very month.

      • Selena Castle says:

        Oh Bobby sue, please don’t say that. I got pregnant on my honeymoon and the honeymoon only lasted for 2 weeks! Then another baby 11 months after the first was born and believe me we weren’t trying then! So yeah apparently hubby and I are very fertile. I wish we had had a few months of trying!

      • mayamae says:

        Teenage girls and women in their 20’s have about a 35% chance of getting pregnant every time they have sex. It’s disgustingly easy. I had a teenager when I read that statistic so it freaked me out a little.

      • olcranky says:

        I got pregnant the first time I had sex – and I was on the pill at the time (this was before we knew antibiotics interfered with the efficacy of hormonal birth control)

      • Cha-Cha says:

        @Bobby sue

        Tom would want to share DNA with the child…. Look at William Mapother

        Agree. If it’s not Tom, it’s William.

        Suri looks more like ‘Cousin Billy’ than Tommy.

        Exhibit A… to Z 😀

        Understand what you mean, about the sudden vitality of Tom’s sperm. Two wives, several girl friends, and not a peep out of them. Not even sexy hot Penelope Cruz could coax them out of dormancy. 🙂 Then, bam, Katie gets knocked up, right away. Makes one wonder.

    • Tooco$y says:

      “Kate” – really? You two must be close.

      • TrustMeOnThis says:

        I was just over on the daily mail (i kno, guilty pleasure) and they have pics of Suri safely back with Katie. Whew!

    • ALLY says:

      I love it when the first commenter voices my thoughts, too! Yes, it is kind of insulting to all adoptive fathers out there to imply that after 6 years he is not, somehow, her real father.

      Still, people are jerks (or just very primitive) about this kind of thing. e.g. Khloe K has had 2 at-least de facto fathers, and yet we blather about her “real father”. Or the raw deal that Todd Rundgren gets re: Liv Tyler, when he raised her for most of her life, and was a much more stable figure in her life than Tyler (even the fact that she took Tyler and not Rundgren or Buell as her last name is odd, really).

      Nonetheless, it would be humiliating for Cruise, apparently. Infertility plays into people’s sense of their femininity/masculinity, so it’s a loaded issue.

    • olaf78 says:

      For better or for worse Tom is Suri’s dad, biology or not.
      In my experience with a narcissistic father, Katie’s actions and apparent attitude in NOT indulging in Tom’s wilful demands (capricious too, especially when Suri grows up and stops looking so cute), will only be a positive in their father-child relationship.

      Parents should guide and teach their children how to deal with the world surrounding them. Katie’s movement toward expanding Suri’s world is such an admirable one. (This is even if Scientology wasn’t so evidently dysfunctional and destructive.)

      Tom may not end up with a child who is obedient and in his own image, but he’ll most likely end up with one who is content and able to think critically.
      And one who will grow up and have a good relationship with him.
      And kudos to Katie for pushing for that. I wish my mum had done the same for me.
      I hope Tom realises the gift she’s given him.

  2. Anna says:

    When i think of Katie and Tom, i always think of that Simpson episode where Troy Mcoy (sic) married Marge sister just for publicity and to gain hollywood role. Luckily the sister get out before deciding to have a kid. Shame for real life.

    • lassie says:

      Troy McClure, voiced by the late, great Phil Hartman.

      The crux of that episode is that Troy had to get public opinion behind him to save his career and to get people to forget the ‘weird sex thing’ he had going on with aquariums. This is a wonderful analogy, Anna, to the whole Cruise thing.

    • Aussie girl says:

      Maybe Tom has a thing for fish as well..

    • megan says:

      Hi I’m Troy McClure, you may remember me from such dates as last night’s dinner.

  3. brin says:

    Nothing like making him more unbalanced than he already is.

  4. lulu says:

    Who else has noticed that Suri’s hair since the divorce is regularly tied up or back or in some way different to before?

    • fancyamazon says:

      I have noticed that, along with the fact that she is on her own feet more often, and not dressing in such a “grown-up” fashion. Hopefully she can be more like the child she is, and enjoy that for a while.

      • gg says:

        I think Katie knew she’d better stop her wearing the makeup and heels before she started first grade or there would be trouble. She’ll probably have to wear a little school uniform and secure her hair so it’s neater. Also, it’s summer and hot so it’s kind of mandatory to tie back the hair and wear cooler shoes.

        Kids look adorable in school uniforms I think.

    • Suzy (from Ontario, Canada) says:

      I noticed that too!

    • Belle says:

      Yes, hair seems to be out of her face more… and she’s wearing flip flops a lot (as opposed to pumps!). Good for her… hoping she will soon have friends her own age too!

  5. Bess says:

    I think Katie should be terrified whenever Suri is alone with Tom and his family (fellow cult members). There’s no way he’s not going to try to indoctrinate her into Scientology.

    • stinky says:

      i so agree… it’s just the eternal elephant in the room now. ugh. no bueno.

      • Suzy (from Ontario, Canada) says:

        I would be worried about this too. Problem is that I’m not sure there’s much she can do that she hasn’t already done. I can see Tom making it all really fun and spoiling Suri completely whenever she’s with him and saying things like: I wish you could come to a party at the Scientology Centre, you would have such a good time but your Mommy says no. Keep saying stuff like that and making it all sound fun and mysterious and cool and little snipes about how Katie is the one stopping Suri from being able to do it, as well as other little things to undermine Katie and eventually she might want to see what she’s missing. Especially if Connor and Bella tell her how cool and great it is, which I’m sure Tom will get them to do. He’s surrounded by Co$ drones.

        Daughters and mothers often have conflicts as the daughter gets older and I can see Tom biding his time, waiting until Suri gets closer to her teens and wanting to rebel, then he’ll try to draw her in or get her to choose to come live with him.

      • Selena Castle says:

        Luckily for Katie Tommygirl will be 60 by the time she is a teenager and I am sorry but the generation gap is huge there, even for Peter Pan types.

    • Sean says:

      Is Katie sending her to Catholic school any different? Both are dangerous money grabbing cults.

      • HappyMom says:

        Give me a break. They are not remotely the same. And only the Sci-bots claim they are.

      • Tiffin says:

        Oh no, here we go again.

        You know what, I’m not even going to dignify that comment with a reply.

        BTW, is Kevin your brother? Because he said the very same thing on another post a couple of days ago. And you have two fine strong Catholic Christian names.

      • Selena Castle says:

        LOL I see what you did there!

      • gg says:

        “Sean”, WHY does your cult copy the Catholic cross as its own icon??? It has nothing to do with $cientology.

      • mayamae says:

        It’s amusing to me that Sean – who on the Brandi Granville threads calls everyone negatively commenting LeAnn Rimes – experiences the same treatment back.

        Everyone knows there are trolls posting but accusing everyone of being a stealth CO$ is over the top. About a week ago (and lower in this thread) LAK, who has been posting for a long time, was accused of being with the cult.

        I would think you would rather error on the side of not insulting an innocent person than to wildly accuse everyone who is not Team Katie.

        TheOriginalTiffany who has personal experience of CO$ has previously stated she finds it best just to ignore CO$ posters. That seems to be the best course when you really don’t know who you’re dealing with.

    • flourpot says:

      I’m wondering how Suri is doing completely separated from her mum. I mean, this is a first, isn’t it?

      That little girl was clinging to him in every picture – and I don’t think it was just the paps. I think she’s scared and I”m sorry to see it.

      I’d be willing to bet she was crying for her mum that very first night.

      Tom. What an a–hole. And yes, I fully blame him.

      • Genevieve says:


        And don’t forget to spread the blame around a little to the ultimate puppet master, David Miscavige. 🙁

      • jwoolman says:

        You can’t assume anything about her dad if she misses her mom. Parents often report their kids have trouble switching between parents even long after the divorce. Much older children may show stress reactions such as crying briefly during the transitions, with each parent. One of the many guilt trips parents travel after divorce….

  6. says:

    Sorry, but I still believe Suri’s biological dad is either Tommy Davis or William Mapother.

    • olcranky says:

      at this point, Suri’s biological paternity is a complete non-issue unless: the biological father is/was unaware and would want to enforce his paternal rights; Suri has a medical condition and biological paternity needs to be established (assuming Cruise is not the biological father) to assist in evaluation and/or treatment of the condition; or Suri and/or Cruise decides it matters. From a legal standpoint, Cruise is her father unless someone has a valid legal claim to paternal rights. More importantly, from an emotional standpoint, Suri knows and thinks of Cruise as her daddy and loves him as such – as long as Cruise thinks of her and loves her as his daughter, they are father and daughter.

      Ultimately, biological parental relationships are just family medical history and, with all due respect to those who struggle with infertility and/or had the strength to give a child up for adoption, procreation/pregnancy/delivery are the easiest parts of “parenthood”. A child’s real parents are the ones who love, raise and nurture that child.

      • says:

        Here’s my question though: could Katie ask for a paternity test if she wanted to get Tom away from Suri (and the crazy Co$)?

      • CC says:

        Yup. I don’t like TC, but that’s exactly how it stands.

      • CC says:

        Nope, that would imply a cover-up when he was declared the father. If anyone can’t change it now, it’s Katie. They were unmarried and parentage isn’t immediately legally assumed to be the husband/partner in unmarried couples as it is in married ones.

      • Embee says:

        Ahhhh….BUT! What if Katie was duped into believing that she was impregnated by Tom but ACTUALLY was impregnated by someone else’s sperm?

        I suppose that Tom’s involvement with the child overrides Katie’s injury there, but it would be an interesting legal question. I suppose she could sue him for “fraud in the inducement?” Hardee har har. Assault (stranger sperm put in her unknowingly) and of course, emotional distress.

      • olcranky says: – unless she could make a claim that falls along the lines of embee’s conspiracy theory – that she was drugged or otherwise controlled to impregnate her, proving Tom isn’t the biological father would not force termination of his parental rights. Even if Katie agreed to insemination and whoever inseminated her used the sperm of someone other than TC, it still wouldn’t terminate Cruise’s paternal rights – Katie would have to prove that TC was part of a conspiracy in a bait (or would that be baste) and switch routine and, even then, there’s no guarantee he’d lose parental rights for defrauding Holmes.

        If she admitted she had sex with someone else who fathered the child, that person would have the right to claim paternal rights and, possibly, try to get sole legal and physical custody of Suri claiming Katie knowingly defrauded him to keep him from his child.

      • says:

        Yes, I was thinking more along the lines of embee’s thinking: that TC couldn’t conceive and they used IVF, and unbeknownst to Katie, TC used Tommy Davis/William Mapother’s sperm.

      • olcranky says: – she could hit TC and anyone involved with fraud charges but, unless she was somehow drugged/coerced into being inseminated and could file battery charges with TC as an accomplice, I don’t think this would necessarily be grounds to terminate his parental rights

    • HappyPossum says:

      I’m with you, shoes. There’s next to no chance Suri’s bio dad is TC. I’ve always thought William Mapother, but she also resembles Tommy Davis (the two guys look a lot alike).

      • CL says:

        She also looks like a young Anne Archer (Tommy Davis’ mother). It’s the eyes.

        But then again, I think TD looks a LOT like TC’s cousin, and like TC himself.

    • gg says:

      He is neeeeeeeever gonna take no DNA test. He will move volcanoes and matter to avoid that.

  7. Birdie says:

    I think Suri is Tommy Davis’ biological child. I mean, even Mimi Rogers said Tom coudn’t give her a child. To me Suri looks a lot more like Tommy than Tom. But true, on a legal point it doesn’t matter.

    • RocketMerry says:

      OR, the father could be L.Ron.Hubbard.

      Lord knows what the $ci-crazies did to Katie in those three weeks she “disappeared” after “auditioning” for Tommy Cruise.
      I wouldn’t put it past them to impregnate a heavily sedated woman with a dead man’s sperm. Ewwwwwwwww.
      And the first $ci-crazy that comes here to say “That’s like bad science fiction, come on!” can just take a long hard look at the holy book they worship and shutty uppy.

      Soooo… anyone got any pics of a young L.Ron?

    • LAK says:

      Mimi did NOT say that. What she actually said was:-

      “Rogers joked in a 1993 Playboy interview that ”Tom was seriously thinking of becoming a monk…he thought he had to be celibate to maintain the purity of his instrument.” Her own instrument, she added, ”needed tuning.”

      @RocketMerry – i wish we had pictures of a Young LRH. However, we do have pictures of a young Tom Cruise and a recent profile picture of his sister Cass.

      Tom Cruise is all kinds of controlling, overbearing brainwashed oddity, but based upon pictorial evidence, he is bio Suri’s father.

      What i want to know because people people seem not to consider it, is what his father and his father’s family look like.

      • Bored suburbanhousewife says:

        @LAK this speculation will never go away partly because Tom & his cult are insane and also as Kaiser says the joy of infuriating him. You are fighting an uphill no win battle!

      • Annie says:

        L Ron Hubbard as a boy-

        He looks downright eerily like Suri, in fact Suri was the first person I thought of upon seeing it, and this is comming from a person who thought the speculation about Hartnett and Klein et al was complete nonsense.

      • Boo says:

        Boy, LAK, you spend an awful lot of time and expend an awful lot of energy defending Tom Cruise. I hope they pay you well.

      • buckycat says:

        I have looked at that roll of Cruise pictures each and every time you’ve posted it, but I still don’t see half the resemblance I see to Tommy Davis. The resemblance between Suri and Davis is eerie it’s so close.

      • LAK says:

        @Bored suburbanhousewife – You are so right. I don’t know why i feel compelled to defend this point about TC when i am on board with all the other views on him.

        I suppose it just seems like such a witch hunt at this point. One that hurts Suri as well.

        There are so many other reasons to hate on Tom Cruise. This one just seems irrational to me.

        @Annie – i can’t tell anything from that picture. No snark. It’s as though someone painted over it. Can you find some more??

      • LAK says:

        @Boo – Postscript to my defence of Suri being carried, here is an interview a pap agency has given to E online.

        As for her paternity, i think TC is the father, others think it’s Tom Davis, others Chris Klein, Josh Hartnett, L. Ron Hubbard. Does this mean we are all on their various payrolls depending on our POV??

      • RocketMerry says:

        Duuuude… SCARY!

      • TheOriginalKitten says:

        @ Boo
        LAK is a long-time commenter here.
        Please stop with the condemnation of anyone who has a differing opinion from you. There are rational, unbiased people on this board that don’t bite on every wacky conspiracy theory out there. Not believing conspiracy theories is FAR from “defending” a celeb.

        @LAK-we’re in agreement. I know it’s fun to believe the silliness, but the girl is the spitting image of TomKat.

      • Viv says:

        Thanks@The OriginalKitten and LAK. Agree with LAK here. I have been reading Morton’s biography of Cruise where he documents the insanity and kind of no longer believe Tiny Tom is shooting blanks. Mimi Rogers as a mad CO$ madam probably wanted no children at that time and was eager to advance her acting career. Nicole Kidman has publicly stated twice that she miscarried his baby and it seemed due to her having ectopic pregnancies -which does not rule out having a healthy baby later on. She did get a surrogate the second time, though, didn’t she?
        Unfortunately Tiny Tom seems to be able to procreate. Since all of these dudes almost look the same (Chris, Tommy D. et) it would be hard to tell if it was different. But I kinda think Katie would try cut him out of Suri’s life completely if he wasn’t the father. Not easy, yes, but not totally impossible.

      • LAK says:

        @Viv – I do find it freaky that all these people sort of look like each other. Now that would be a conspiracy theory wirth unravelling. It’s not just the men, but Holmes and Tom Cruise’s mother and sisters resemble them. Infact, going by eyes alone, Tom Davis has the maternal Cruise eye folds.

        I haven’t read Morton’s book, does it have any pictures of Cruise’s father??

      • birdie says:

        I guess I was misinformed about Mimi Roger’s statement.
        Also, I don’t see any resemblance between Suri and L. Ron Douchbag.

      • Bored suburbanhousewife says:

        @LAK everyone here knows you are the number one person to rely on for FACTS and respect for the truth. You go girl…I agree it’s damaging to Suri but I don’t see it going away.

      • NeoCleo says:

        I clearly remember Mimi Rogers making the snide comment that Tom was “firing blanks.” That Nicole miscarried right about the time he served her with a divorce and he made the criptic statement “Nicole knows my reasons for the divorce” which was all he ever said on the subject matter just seems to add more fuel to the speculative fire. One can’t help thinking that with Mimi’s comment, the adoptions with Nicole, Nicole’s miscarriage shortly after their marriage imploded I(and the rumors abounding that the child was not Tom’s, but that of her side-piece at the time) along with the rest of the Kate and Tom weirdness that there is an awful LOT OF SMOKE for there to be no fire.

        I have never seen a resemblence between Tom & Suri, in fact, I have always thought Suri radiates an almost “changeling” quality. She really doesn’t look much like Katie either and her persona in almost all her photos shows none of the joy of being a kid that most children emanate. Hopefully that will turn around with the break up of her parents. The photos of her with her first non-COS friends were the most human I’ve ever seen her look. It was lovely to see her really smile and laugh in photos with her mouth wide-open in a toothy grin for a change.

    • sukienow says:

      mimi rogers did not ever say that

      what she did was make a joke that didnt have enough sex cos cruise though he wanted to keep his intrustment pure but her instrument needed tuning.
      she also said the times they did get imimate, tommy always makes it into a performance.

      the steril rumour has become like a urban myth, but was actually stated in a foreign magazine( i think it was germanmag) cruise did sue the mag and won.

      the rumour started during his marriage to nicole. i think it was part of speculation why he and nicole adpoted(probably cos celebritiy apdotion wasnt as common then as it is now). even nicole suffered odd rumours during that time that she was hermaphrodite and thats why they adopted lol.

      not until years after the divorce did people learn that nicole lost two pregnancy during her marriage to cruise

      she said in an interview the first was early on after they got married and was an ectopic pregancy and the second one she lost due to the stress of the divorce.

      she famously kept the fetus of the second pregnancy for dna sampling to fight cruise in the divorce when it seems like he and his people were trying to deny he didnt know anything about the pregnancy and that it might not be his.

      • someone says:

        The thing that always seemed weird to me about Nicole’s second miscarriage (when they were divorcing) is: at that point Tom had never had a biological child. He’d only adopted. Don’t you think if he knew Nicole was pregnant with his child he would have gotten back together with her? There would be a pretty powerful urge to be around for your FIRST bio child. It’s been assumed he thought it wasn’t his. How could he have been so sure it wasn’t his unless he thought he couldn’t have kids?

      • LAK says:

        @Someone – Not that this is conclusive enough evidence or reason, but there was very strong rumour that Nicole had an on-set affair with Ewan McGregor coupled with Tom’s alleged [by Mimi] aversion to sex…..

    • Jane says:

      But wasn’t Nicole pregnant when he filed for divorce and she miscarried?

  8. Lulu says:

    I did think there might be merit to the rumors when she was able to escape with Suri relatively easily. I sincerely doubt though, that he would have been able to convince her to impregnate herself with some scientology weirdo before they were even married.

  9. gloaming says:

    Theres a new post by Tony Ortega who reports on an ex scientologist who’s seen a draft of PTA’s The Master. It answers speculation about how much of it is about scientology.

    It seems the whole film is indeed about that and nothing else.
    I cant link it as I’m posting on my phone, but that news and these relentless posts on scientology and TC make me all warm and tingly inside.

    • Mich says:

      The Master story is a summary of Mike Hinder’s story on the Daily Beast.

      The VV also has an incredibly sad story breaking today:
      “I just got off the phone with Colin Henderson, who is frenetically monitoring breaking news in Oklahoma, where yet another patient at Scientology’s flagship Narconon drug treatment center has been found dead.

      Jeanne LeFlore of the McAlester News-Capital broke the news earlier today that Stacy Dawn Murphy, 20, had died at the facility, which is in the town of Canadian.

      By the time that news hit, Henderson was already sending out messages to Oklahoma state officials, putting even more heat on them now that at least three deaths have occurred at the Narconon center since this past October.

      “This young lady’s death is on the hands of the Oklahoma Department of Mental Health Substance Abuse Services for their inaction after two previous deaths,” Henderson tells me.”

      Edit to add: THREE people have died in a CO$ drug treatment center since October. How is that even possible??

      • mayamae says:

        I am so sickened by this new Narconon death. We know they shun psych meds and apparently we learned from Jet Travolta’s death that they shun seizure meds sometimes given in detox.

        Detox can kill you. It’s routine to give a mix of meds to wean people off of the drugs and you just know these fools make them go cold turkey. They’re probably locked in a room and observed – at least that was how they treated Lisa McPherson when she had a break down. Of course she’s dead now.

      • Mich says:


        I completely agree with you. So many of us on this site have either gone through the process ourselves or have close loved ones who have. The dangers are so well known and this makes me so incredibly angry.

        Of course, in that infamous 2004 Cruise Scientology rant, he made such a big deal about how he, “personally”, had gotten people off drugs.

        If I use the words I am really thinking in this post I will most definitely be banned.

        Instead, I’m writing letters – I’m not sure if I’m allowed to post email addresses but these are all in the public domain:

        Oklahoma State Department of Health:
        Medical facility complaints:

        Press office:

        Governor Mary Fallin:

        Mr Kris Steele, Speaker of the House:

        Sen. Brian Bingman, President Pro Tempore:

      • mayamae says:

        Mich –

        You’re brilliant for posting the email addresses! Hopefully many will take the time to send a message of their own.

  10. Jackie O says:

    i kinda get a kick out of him getting infuriated over this and ‘the gay’ rumour. he takes himself so seriously, just like other religious fanatics.

  11. Aria says:

    Don’t hate but Suri is Josh Hartnett daughter. In a couple of years we will see.

    • ZigZagZoey says:

      Have you seen a pic of Tommy Davis?

      • Aria says:

        yeah..there’s a resemblance. But my money is on that Katie got pregnant before meeting Tom. Maybe she didn’t know she was pregnant by the time she started dating Tom. After finding out, a pregnancy felt right for Tom because that way he could show the whole world how fertile supersperm macho he is.

        I heard Katie had a fling with Hartnett after she left Chris klein. So….Suri must be his.

        Tom is not into women. He might not be into sex at all.

      • Emily says:

        @Amy — Even if your speculation about Tom Cruise’s sexuality is correct, gay men and asexuals can make babies just fine and do so all the time.

  12. Bored suburbanhousewife says:

    The reason for the wild speculation about her paternity is 1. his continuous weird behavior, and 2. his fervor for a sick cult founded by an insane con man.

  13. MK yarwood says:

    If it were William Mapother, could that make the paternity results ‘close enough’ anyway? How closely are they related?

    • mayamae says:

      They can easily tell the difference between fathers and cousins. Only identical twins have identical genetics.

    • olcranky says:

      they’re cousins, there would be significant similarities to note she’s biologically related to TC but not enough for him to appear to be her biological father.

    • Jacq says:

      I have said William Mapother was the father from the second I laid eyes on her. He is Tom’s cousin, so he could probably be trusted to keep the secrets and be on the payroll. The strongest argument against the frozen-sperm L. Ron baby – do you really think the cult would have let the spawn of Hubbard go so quickly and allow her to be under custody of someone so “suppressive” without a bigger fight? Methinks not.

      • TrustMeOnThis says:

        I can’t imagine them waiting so long to make little Elrons if that was the case. And they’d probably engineer them to be boys. So I’m with you on that one. This was done to satisfy TC, to help make him seem hetero, or whatevs. Perhaps Katie was already preggers, or perhaps they slipped her a mickey and then…

        I’m just glad to see Suri is back with mom. Not a fan of the paps in general but it is good to know.

  14. sarah says:

    Suri creeps me out. She’s adorable but super creepy at the same time. So she’s definately Tom’s baby. lol

    • Rhea says:

      😀 Interesting way of thinking…

    • Belle says:

      Yeah, I get that vibe too. Hoping the more she is allowed to be a normal child (or as normal as a celeb child can be), the ‘creepy’ in her will go away(;

  15. Sue says:

    What I want to know is did Suri and Tom come back from helicopter ride???? Have they been sited? I may have missed it…..

  16. Dana says:

    To me, Suri looks a lot like Chris Klein. My other theory is that she is Tom’s, but Katie was artificially inseminated and that their marriage was never consummated. She could ask for an annulment if she said that.

    • LAK says:

      I am firmly in the Tom Cruise is her bio dad. However, i can buy into your second theory because according to his first wife, Tom doesn’t or didn’t like to have sex, preferring celibacy.

      Even if he were sterile, 90% of such cases are due to low sperm count which can be taken care of via IVF per your send theory.

      • Aussie girl says:

        I to think Tom is the father. Even though I cringe @ the thought of tommy boy pumping it in to a bored Katie. I Imagen he would be the wrost in the bed room, all couch jumping style with no rythum @ all! I do think that it is possible that she was insemernated with his gizz. Sorry to all with the unwanted thoughts of Tom in the bedroom. My alpologise in advanced 🙂

    • Relli says:

      Me too! Everyone says “NO you cray cray,” but the timeline makes sense and also why she would have been in such a rush to get married and find someone to help her raise her child. have you ever seen the photo montage of Katie and the pregnant tummy? at the time i never paid attention because i wasn’t a Dawson’s Creek fan and I could of cared less. But my friend mentioned one day how long and weird her pregnancy was and just like someone else who was recently pregnant she often looked “padded,” and it was always fluctuating in size. I wont post a link because CB doesn’t like it but Google “katie holmes pregnancy” and you will find it. Also Katie gave birth in April, so she had to have conceived in July of the year before. That’s only three months into a relationship when he and Nicole did not have a child in the entire 10 years they were together. Suspect.

  17. Marianne says:

    Even if Tommy wasn’t the biological dad, he is still her dad. He is the one who takes care of her, who loves her.

  18. Genevieve says:

    As you said, Katie SHOULD be terrified whenever Suri is with TC, without her presence or some of Katie’s people being present, as well.

    I think the Chris Klein thing is a joke. Katie would never be stupid enough to muddy the waters by doing something that self-defeating- and I think she’s been planning her getaway for a long, LONG time. That theory fails, IMHO.

    Although Suri COULD be the perfect hybrid of Katie/ Tom’s DNA, Suri’s resemblance to Tommy Davis continually freaks me out. I will always wonder what REALLY happened to Katie during her initial “whirlwind” three week courtship w/ TC. He might fear a DNA test, but maybe because he already knows the answer and doesn’t wish to have it made public.

    TC has never been able to father children before, yet both Mimi Rogers and Nicole Kidman became pregnant after their respective marriages to him were dissolved. David Miscavige is a sociopath and a control freak. I have read countless articles about his Hitler-like control and near destruction of Scientology. After reading all of Marty Rathbun’s blog, I wouldn’t put it past Miscavige to “ensure the future of Scientology” by passing off his or Tommy Davis’ DNA if Tommygirl was known to shoot blanks.

    Aaaaand…I just about hurled my coffee at that disgusting thought. Sorry, lol. But, hey…am I the ONLY one who thinks this and sees the resemblance? :-/

    • LAK says:

      Mimi Rogers divorced him because he wouldn’t have sex.

      Nicole Kidman had 3 miscarriages whilst with Tom, and needed all the help she could get to have the two that she went on to have.

      A sexless marriage or minimally sexual + difficult pregnancies = more likely to result in childless marriages

      • paola says:

        I didn’t know Mimi Rogers divorced him because he wouldn’t want to have sex.. i understand her..i had a boyfriend who was like that and it took me a while before a felt normal again..

      • TheOriginalKitten says:

        @ Paola- Wow, really? I don’t think I’d last long with a guy like that! Was it for religious reasons?

      • paola says:


        Not at all! Just not ‘into sex’! I didn’t even know that existed men with that kind of thing.. but apparently 3 out of 10 men don’t fancy sex because it doesn’t do anything for them. one word: Frustrating.

      • TheOriginalKitten says:

        @Paolo-!!!!!!!! That is craziness. I think that would result in some serious incompatability 😉

      • Tiffin says:


        I don’t know if you’ve seen it, but I recently watched the French documentary about TC and CO$ ‘One Day, One Destiny'(one of the posters in another thread recommended it) They present another side to the Tom/Mimi split.

        Mimi ran her own COS centre (but under the eye of Miscavige) and she was responsible for going after Tom and getting him into the cult. He was doing his ‘training’ at her centre but of course Miscavige wanted the famous TC to use the fancy Hollywood centre. He won Tom over and Mimi was sort of pushed out of the way. Then Tom filmed Days of Thunder, met Nicole and started an affair while he and Mimi were still married.
        Miscavige had his minions build Tom and Nicole a home (for all intents and purposes) at Gold Base and let them use it to continue their affair.

        So I’m not really sure who ended up filing for the divorce.

        It’s a really interesting documentary and here’s the link if you want to watch it. It’s in 8 parts.

      • LAK says:

        @Tiffin – Thanks for that. I am definitely watching that.

        See you after the 8 parts.

      • holly hobby says:

        Not exactly. Per the book, Inside Scientology, Mimi’s dad was one of the original franchisees of a Sci center. In the old days, the franchisees got to keep all the profits made via their shop. However, when Miss Cabbage changed the rules and made the franchisees donate their earnings, Mimi’s dad made a stink. She was collateral damage during the political coup so Co$ made Tommy divorce her because she was now considered persona non grata at the church.

        I think it’s easier for her to give that pat answer as to why they divorced but the book documented the real reason.

      • Tiffin says:

        You’re very welcome LAK.

        holly hobby, you may be correct!
        Yes, I knew Mimi was pushed out alright but I’ve read/seen so much stuff in the last while I’ve probably got it wrong.
        Thanks 🙂

    • Intercontinental says:

      OMG!! Suri is the model of that guy!! It’s the eyes and the mouth…totally freaked out!!

      • Palermo. says:

        You mean not into sex “with women” don’t you? I remember years ago it came out that Tom was sterile, hence no kids with Mimi or Nicole until they adopted some. I have no doubt at all that Tom is not Suri’s biological father.

    • the original bellaluna says:

      I agree that Katie should still be concerned. She WILL be looking over her and Suri’s shoulders the rest of their lives.

      I also think that if TC or the CO$ tries anything with Suri, Katie will unload her full arsenal.

      And believe me, she’s got one. Or they never would have signed off on her list of demands.

      (I replied to you down-thread, too.)

  19. Jennifer says:

    It’s well known in Los Angeles fertility circles that Tom has no sperm, or is azoospermatic. Either Katie was already pregnant, or donor sperm was used. There is a huge build up of testing required by the FDA before one can undergo IVF- she wouldn’t have been able to accomplish all that in the month they had been dating. Plus, a young fertile patient would need to be suppressed by Lupron for at least 10 days prior to starting follicle stimulating drugs. A paternity test would be very revealing.

    • paola says:

      If Suri is not Tom’s biological parent then i’m sure Katie would drop the bomb just to get her daughter out of least this is what i would do!

      • Genevieve says:

        @ paola:

        And she may yet drop the bomb. It could be that part of their divorce agreement included TC being able to see Suri juuust long enough to be able to “save face”. Wouldn’t surprise me if those visits start to taper off over time. At least, I hope so. Because, biological father or not, TC will NEVER stop trying to indoctrinate Suri into CO$ during the times he has access to her.

        I think that Katie knows the true paternity of Suri, and it’s NOT Tommygirl. That could definitely be one of the trump cards she pulled to finalize the divorce so quickly. That would pretty much destroy TC’s rep if that info came out.

        Look…we all have our differing opinions about Suri’s paternity on this board. None or all or a mixture of everyone’s theories could be correct. My theory differs from LAK’s and others, but that doesn’t mean that anyone should be attacked for voicing their opinion on a freaking GOSSIP SITE!

        @LAK: It kind of bugs me to see peeps getting snotty w/ a longtime poster like you. You could well be right. Who knows? And we probably will NEVER know how Suri’s conception really went down.

        THE END.

      • TrustMeOnThis says:

        @Paola: Many suspect that this is exactly the trump card in Katie’s pocket. However, it could just be overall $ci-insanity.

        @Genivieve: you had me until “THE END”
        Ain’t no such thing on the internets.

    • Chattycat says:

      So during her 3 week audit absence,
      Tom, Miscavige and Davis are sitting around deciding who it’s going to be and it goes like this:

      Eeny, meeny, miny, moe,
      Catch a sperm donor by the toe.
      If he squeals, then he must go to FSO,
      Eeny, meeny, miny, moe.

      And THAT is how Suri’s biological father was decided to insure it was a member of CO$. Don’t need to get it up much for sperm donation so TommyGirl may be the “one”.

    • gg says:

      There is no way a woman dating a guy for one or two months would agree to be artificially inseminated and get pregnant, not even knowing if she was going to marry the guy. So she was either already pregnant, or Dum Cruise is the dad.

      Suri looks exactly like her mother to me, and her mother also happens to look a hell of a lot like Tom, parts of Chris, and Tommy Davis.

  20. Julie says:

    OK, if he threatened to sue the mags for the other things that have been said, what is he going to do with this one? Obviously the news gets back to him. I don’t have any opinions on who fathered whom but the quickness with which this divorce was all settled does give one pause but I think it was because of the bad publicity to CO$.

  21. paola says:

    I’d be scared too if my child didn’t look at all like me but just like the other parent. Suri looks nothing like Tom and i still don’t know why Nicole and Tom were not able to have kids when they were married..but now they both have them?

    • gg says:

      paola, you really don’t think Suri looks at all like Tom? How can you not? I’m just asking because all the features are there.

      • paola says:

        Honestly, since she was very little i didn’t see any resemblance to Tom, in my eyes she looks a lot like Katie but even trying harder i don’t see Tom in any pf her features..

    • Emily says:

      I’m glad my grandfather and my father aren’t like you then.

      Genetics isn’t just mix red + blue = purple.

      • paola says:

        They Aren’t like me because..? I didn’t offend anyone.. i just said that if i was Tom and i wasn’t the father of the baby i wouldn’t be thrilled by the fact that in MY opinion he doesn’t look at all like Suri. I know genetics aren’t like mixing colors.. i’m not stupid thank you very much.

      • Emily says:

        You said you’d be scared if the child didn’t look like you but only the other parent. Period. There was no “if I knew I weren’t the father” there.

        My father isn’t and my grandfather wasn’t like you because I look just like my mom and not like my dad, to the extent that when I’m alone with my dad in public, people often assume I’m his wife, though he looks his age and I look younger than I am. Tom Cruise looks far more like Suri than my dad looks like me in both coloring and features. One of my aunts doesn’t look at all like either of her parents did. Neither my father nor my grandfather had any fear or questions about the paternity of their daughters.

  22. Berlingirl says:

    Really, I think this is all going too far. perhaps they were just lucky to have Suri? I think she does look lile TC and KH. Whatever, I hope she never reads these speculations when she gets older.

  23. sukienow says:

    the mimi rogers example for people wondeering why she and tom didnt have kids doesnt make sense has well cos her first husband wasnt cruise either.

    she was married to another man before tom, and that marriage which was even longer didnt produce children either.

    mimi rogers didnt have her first child till she was in her 40S

    nicole said in an interview some years ago that she lost two pregnancies during their marriage.

    it seems she had problems carrying to term

    wasnt there some health problems when she was carring sunday rose???? and there were report she had to be on bed rest for some months due to fears she might miscarry.

    and we all know a surrogate carried her second one .

  24. carlino altoviti says:

    I always thought hey used artificial insemination, but Tom’s seed. I knew that Tom had problems, but today science can solve them, especially if a powerful organization as CO want.
    I think they did attemps with Nicole also.
    Too important for them to have a biological child ofTom, I do not think they used other man seed.

  25. islandgirl says:

    Some of you people are cray cray

    • Julie says:

      Agreed, but it’s not even 10 am yet, I’m at work and no alcoholic beverages are allowed. And I really do think something strange is up with this couple, the poor kid and the whole situation. However, none of us will probably ever know the true story.

      • TheOriginalKitten says:

        @ Islandgirl-Um, yes. To put it mildly.

        @Julie-And your comment begs the question: why AREN’T alcoholic beverages allowed at work? Especially on a Friday. Off-topic I know but still a question worth asking.

      • Genevieve says:

        @ Julie…bad idea to feed the CO$ cult trolls…just FYI.

    • AnnieN says:

      OK, good you did post this morning. Watch your back islandgirl, people are noticing that the emperor has no clothes and it’s the little CO$ guy that will pay the piper.

      Be safe!

      • TheOriginalKitten says:

        Do we know that islandgirl is a troll or are we just guessing? I thought C/B was on troll-patrol?

        I just thought I recognized her name and not only through COS-related posts…

      • gg says:

        If I were head of the goon squad over at the co$, I’d already have original posters assigned to sites like this so that there weren’t any red flags or new posters when stories like this come out, and have tandem commenting on varied topics so it looks like regulars chatting. (A few are still suspect.)

        Oh, and also use people that can spell and write a proper sentence other than “suri always smiles when she’s with tom” and “katie is ugly”. Scarce, probably, but surely somebody in the entire huge Gold Base complex can spell, right?

  26. Gal says:

    I think if TC wasn’t the biological father, Katie would’ve used this during the divorce.

    • Kate says:

      I actually think it is plausible he isn’t the biological father, but rather Suri is the product of a sperm donor (not an affair by Katie). She had something on him to force such a quick, quiet settlement. Of course it doesn’t matter in terms of legal rights, but from a PR standpoint it is devastating to Tom. The big masculine action star shoots blanks? While it doesn’t matter one way or the other to most people, to a person with a carefully crafted Hollywood image it would. Look at all the actresses that go to such lengths to claim their births were “natural”, etc.

      This may not be what Katie had on him, but I’m convinced she had something on him. Otherwise, the scientologists and team Cruise would’ve fought a little harder and slimed her a little more.

      • the original bellaluna says:

        Wow, Kate, I really should have read all the comments before I commented. You said it much better than I.

        I agree – it would be a blow to both his ego (which is w-a-y bigger than he is), his pride (pride goeth before the fall), and his image.

      • Genevieve says:

        @ Bella…

        Scroll up to post #18 and click on the link at the bottom.

        I’m just sayin’….:-0

    • gg says:

      So the complete contents of everything she used in the divorce is public knowledge then? (it’s not)

  27. mln76 says:

    As much as it’s rumored that Tom isn’t the father Suri looks so much like him. I believe that either she is the daughter of his cousin OR he went through fertility treatments in order to conceive (yes there are options for men who are infertile too). The Chris Klein/Josh Harnett rumors are silly.

  28. Julie says:

    Hello to TheOriginalKitten: I have no idea why this policy is in effect. I, for one, would never abuse it. I heard in an interview with TC that he rarely ever drank adult beverages. I’m not sure but I think CO$ may frown upon having too many if any at all. Perhaps this is the start of the entire issue?

  29. dorothy says:

    I personally always questioned the paternity of Suri. Tom was married twice with no children with his wives. I always wondered if Nicole got pregnant and Tom realized it wasn’t his because he’s sterile and quickly divorced her. Just my take on things.

    • LAK says:

      His first wife divorced him because he didn’t want to have sex, if we are to believe her statement.

      Nicole publicly stated that She had miscarriages whilst with him. Apparently She DNA tested the final miscarriaged foetus to prove that it was his progeny.

      • dorothy says:

        Hmmm…didn’t know that about Mimi Rogers. No sex? That’s just strange.

      • GiGi says:

        There’s also a transcript of a tapped call between Nicole and Tom where she complains of him being “tired every night” even when he’s not working and she says he never comes on to her.

        Not proof of paternity one way or the other, but telling about the guy, in general.

      • LAK says:

        @Gigi – Wow. We can possibly add the ‘he-isn’t-interested-in-sex’ card for sure to the probable reasons why he had childless marriages.

      • Mira says:

        @LAK – This is unsolicited but you may want to give this a rest – shouting out Suri is Tom/Katie’s child. It’s commendable that you get your point across each time, but I find this debate jarringly one-sided. I believe Suri is Tom’s child. Hell, I don’t believe half of the Tom-theories except that he’s a narcissistic, difficult-to-live-with control-freak, who is also a “fundamentalist” Scientologist as opposed to being just a practice-in-private Scientologist. I find it hard to make a point when there’s a near consensus here that Katie is all milk whereas Tom’s the poison. I’m an equal opportunity hater about celeb gossip. It’s futile to defend your point each time, like in the JA posts. It’s disheartening to see how many people here wish for Tom’s downfall. And for what? For choosing Scientology as his faith.

      • LAK says:

        @Mira – You are right and we are in agreement on all this. ditto your opinion of Tom Cruise.

        This is my last post on any of the Tom vs Katie vs Suri vs the paps threads. Infact, like the JA/Halle posts, i am not opening any future Threads. ditto Brangelina. Less temptation 🙂

    • Emily says:

      Nicole had multiple miscarriages during her marriage to Tom Cruise, including one that seems to have been at least partly brought on by the shock of Tom Cruise divorcing her in such a cruel way. She had that last one DNA tested to prove it was his. And it was.

      • aussie says:

        yes, you are right and she had an ectopic pregancy very early on in their marriage.

  30. Chris says:

    Yeah, the man is a little bit odd, but all this stuff about him being the antichrist or somethin’ is just stupid.

    • the original bellaluna says:

      “A little bit odd”…you, Chris, are the master of understatement. 😉

  31. the original bellaluna says:

    A paternity test would deliver a good swift kick to his ego, and he’s suffered a few too many of those lately. He’d never allow it. (Nor would the CO$, as they would be complicit in any “conspiracy” or cover-up.) Pride will be his downfall.

    What kind of idiot thinks taking a helicopter out of NY is “normal”? (SIT DOWN, Donald Trump.) Especially for a 6 year-old.

    • Genevieve says:

      @ bella:

      Haha, “SIT DOWN”. Righto, indeed!

      • the original bellaluna says:

        Genevieve – I just did! I think the two Tommys are related. They look so similar (Tommy’s got Tommy’s original nose and brow situation), and so does Suri. I’m thinking it’s a mixed bag of tricks.

      • LAK says:

        @the original bellaluna/@genevieve – that i think is a mystery worth exploring….

    • Ruffian9 says:

      Hearted for the Trump comment. I’m with you, Tom would pull out every legal trick in the book (ok, his handlers and COS lawyers would) to avoid a DNA test. If Suri actually is his bio child, that means Katie was inseminated right away (her first audit?). That’s some creepy sh*t right there.

  32. G says:

    bellaluna beat me to it…

    She does look like Tommy Davis but he looks like Tom Cruise so there you go.

    • Genevieve says:

      Well, who KNOWS what chicanery took place in that three week courtship period. “Only God and thee….”

      How AWFUL Katie must feel, and how traumatising for her if something shady really did take place involving Suri’s conception.

      But GOOD GOD, did she ever get them back!

      Completely leveled them and nearly dismantled their cult, is more like it.

      HA. Katie is SO my hero. 😀

  33. barb says:

    When I first saw a pic of Suri I thought she looked a lot like Tom – a nice blend of both of them really. I’m quite sure he’s the Dad.

  34. blondie10101 says:

    People has a picture of Suri looking into a paparrazzi camera and she looks just like Tom in the 80’s. They actually have the same jaw.

  35. MK yarwood says:

    Yeah, I knew it wouldn’t be identical. I just figured keeping it ‘all in family’ would have been a tactical measure. My money is on Pacey, tho, and there are things about his and TC’s face which are similar. I dunno, it doesn’t mean anything. My mother married my ‘adoptive’ father when I was three (courts changed my name at 9) and they still tell people I have his eyes.

  36. G says:

    Well, the settlement is done, so there is no pressure or interest on either side to prove paternity and no way of knowing if that was a leveraged to get a quick agreement. So this story is going nowhere.

    I tend not to believe the story that Tom is not Suri’s father because I can’t see someone as controlling as Tom getting into this marriage with such a potentially explosive threat just waiting to blow up.

    Isn’t it odd that no other father(Harnett, Klein) has expressed an interest here?

    Also the idea that Katie was just some compliant womb wating to be inprenated by mystery sperm from the COS lab sounds ridiculous.

    More likely that he knocked her up and this and all the other excitement swept her into marriage. After all, who doesn’t wish to love and admire the father of her fetus?

  37. someone says:

    Does anyone know when the last verified picture was taken of Katie Holmes out and about when she was pregnant? Yes, they say she kept Suri under wraps for 3 months after she was “born” but if there were photos of Katie out shopping in early April and she was still pregnant then the baby couldn’t have been conceived before June. And by then Katie was ONLY with Tom, or so it is assumed.

  38. Billy says:

    I’ve honestly thought that the rumors that Suri wasn’t his blood child to be ridiculous. She looks so much like him.

  39. Dawn says:

    No I don’t think there is much out there that would “terrify” Tom Cruise especially that. I have always thought that Suri is a combo of her parents and believe that she is 100% his biological child. That being said I do believe that karma just bit Mr. Cruise in his ass for treating Nicole as poorly as he did. And I do believe it would behoove him to encourage his older children to have a relationship with their mother and their younger half siblings. I think he needs to re-evaluate just what he gives up to be in this cult COS.

  40. Miss S Ippi says:

    Maybe they took both Tommys’ sperms, David Miscarriage’s sperms, Cuz Will’s sperms and shook them up together in a cocktail shaker. Then they gave Katie a mickey and shot her up with a turkey baster.
    OR…maybe she was just knocked up before she and Tiny hooked up.

  41. skilo says:

    IF the rumors are true that Tom isn’t Suri’s biological father, then unless Katie knows for 100% who her real father is, then Katie should be just as terrified if not more so than Tom about a paternity test. If I were her I’d rather never know if Tommy Davis was Suri’s biological father, he is as crazy and dangerous if not more so than Tom himself.

  42. Maritza says:

    Nonsense, Suri looks just like Tom and his sister.

  43. SolitaryAngel says:

    Although I do not believe that TC is the biological father of Suri, I do believe that he loves her (as much as he can feel love); but the question is, is the love he feels for Suri the father/daughter kind, or is it the “you are MINE & I own you” kind that certain men feel for their children? I would love to know the answer.

  44. Janet says:

    Whether or not he is Suri’s biological father, he is her legal father since he was married to her mother when she was born, and more important, he is the only father Suri has ever known. They need to let this go.

  45. tru tru says:

    I’ve always believed that Suri was not Tom’s child.

    if she was conceived by test tube, why didn’t he do the same w/Nicole??

    Chris Klein for the win.

    Tom has some secrets and its about his ability to produce kids….

    This whole thing is shifty and murky to me.

    If I were Kate, I’d be worried that Suri is getting audited NOW as we speak by Tom and his COS cronies.

    I’m sooo glad that she took a stand for normalacy, at least as much as she can get w/her daughter.

    Go Katie!

  46. skuddles says:

    I’m one of the people who doesn’t believe Cruise is Suri’s bio Dad. I also think Katie gave birth well before we’re told she did. The first thing I thought when they revealed the first pics of Suri was holy crap, that kid does not look like a newborn! I thought she looked about 2 months old. This leads me to believe Katie was likely pregnant when she met Cruise, or impregnated about 12 seconds later (seriously, I’d love to know what was going on with Katie in those 3 weeks she went missing). Whether or not this is a relevant detail remains to be seen. I agree us doubters should probably let it go – BUT, in the event Cruise pulls a dirty on Katie, then I think she should blow this secret out of the water. All’s fair in love and war, and taking on the CO$ definitely constitutes war.

    • Miss T says:

      She was 3 months old in the first photos that were released. Remember, they didn’t release photos right away.

      • skuddles says:

        Ah thanks for the clarification Miss T. My memory is obviously fuzzy on some details but I do distinctly remember thinking that Suri looked older than she should have in those first pics.

  47. Deryn says:

    The juxtaposition of the last two pictures — with Katie and Suri looking like a perfectly normal mom and kid and Tom looking Tommish and lost — is priceless. WELL DONE.

  48. Francesca says:

    Tom is working his magic on Suri right now. It totally creeps me out to think of it but I am sure he is using all is Scientology lingo and brainwashing on her; I bet she will not go back to Katie willingly. More bad karma for him in the long run but he is not someone who takes well to not getting what he wants. Such an egotistic ass!

  49. Kkkaren says:

    I sincerely hope that One Shot features at least one Reacher signature headbut.

    Please let the producers not forget that Reacher is basically a more of a psycho than the bad guys. He’s supposed to be fair-haired as well.

    I just hope the movie turns out good. The plot is ridiculous of course. Just like all the Reacher stories.

  50. kellyinseattle says:

    Maybe they can change Suri’s first name if they end up changing her paternity.

  51. Annie2 says:

    I always thought Tom took Katie on because she was newly pregnant and needed a bailout plan, since she couldn’t marry the real father.

    My bets are on one of the Josh’s as the biological father.
    suri looks JUST like Katie. Katie and Tom have the same shape eyes, so I can see the confusion there.
    I see quite a bit of Joshua Jackson through the nose area.

    • Genevieve says:

      OMG…I see the CO$ freaks are fully representing today.

      • Annie2 says:

        How do I give the impression of a scientologist? I’m a Christian that wouldn’t go near that place.

        I was talking about how the marriage was a set up.
        I thought it was clear that I’m on Katie’s side. :/

  52. sonia says:

    I don’t understand why…if Katie was pregnant before meeting tom…why did she have to get married? We aren’t in the middle ages…couldn’t she have just been a single mom? And yes I have asked this before.

    • Miss S Ippi says:

      Speculation back then was that Tom had been interviewing, and getting turned down by, hi-pro actresses to be his wife. Along comes pregnant Katie, who was, by her own admission, star-struck by Tiny. He needs a kid, she needs a baby daddy and some stability. (remember, she was pretty young). So he gets a young, bargain-basement, worshipper to join him in lawfully wedded bearding. She had Suri then faked 3 months more. Tiny is all about appearances. He’s bona fide crazy. That 5 years must have been an eternity for a girl who grew up fast. I hope Tiny pisses Katie off and she outs the whole truth.

  53. mia says:

    This kind of talk is just wrong and disgusting. There is an innocent child at the middle of this and for her sake I hope this sort of innuendo stops immediately.
    I wouldn’t wish this on my worst enemy.

  54. jwoolman says:

    Signs that it’s been a hard week:

    These were two headings one on top of the other in mobile view:

    Is Tom Cruise terrified that he’ll be asked to take a paternity test?

    Should Duchess Kate be criticized for wearing a 78K Cartier necklace?

    Which I read as:

    Is Tom Cruise terrified that he’ll be criticized for wearing a 78K Cartier necklace?

    I don’t know if I should worry more about my eyes or the fact that I actually thought that made sense. Too much TomKatCo$ reading recently, maybe. 

    • TrustMeOnThis says:

      Terrified that he’ll be caught wearing the 78k Cartier necklace, more like!

  55. jwoolman says:

    We have to remember that even though Tom is not the most stable rung on the ladder and Co$ hasn’t improved that situation, that doesn’t mean he doesn’t love his kids. Suri doesn’t seem afraid of her dad, just cameras etc. I saw the video of them getting into the helicopter with a crowd of guys shoving microphones and cameras at them just inches away. She held tight to her dad and buried her head in his shoulder. Quite a gauntlet to run for a little kid. But both her parents seem to deal with it the same way- they hold her and protect her and let her hide, while they stay calm and cheerful dealing with the scary guys. 

    My guess is that Katie isn’t so worried about Tom with Suri as she is about all the Co$ people around him. It was reported that when she got back from China, she was very upset that Tom had left Suri alone with those people. If there is any truth to that- this means she may trust Tom but not the others. So Tom may not be entirely the Co$ robot he’s painted as. Suri is used to him being absent for long periods (and riding in helicopters when he’s around…) but today’s technology lets parents stay in close contact even then – phone calls and video links. He might not want to do anything to jeopardize his contacts with Suri. So the purpose of the agreement to not talk about Co$ may have been especially firmly aimed at everybody else having contact with Suri on his watch and to give him the support he needs to enforce it. 

  56. erika says:

    Fast forward 25 yrs from now…2037…??

    Tom’s cosmic sized ego just keeps him tripping over his lifts…

    p.s.- GORGEOUS orange silk dress! lovin’ it!

  57. Shannon says:

    I like how they conveniently ignore that getting paternity results is as easy as snatching a strand of hair from Tom’s hair brush and mailing it to a lab… he doesn’t even need to be involved. Of course, it’s more dramatic to envision Suri demanding a blood test 😛

  58. IzzyB says:

    I’m a geneticist and people keep saying they don’t believe Suri is Toms because he couldn’t have a kid with Nicole.

    They could both have been carriers for a genetic disease that is embryonic lethal (ends in miscarriage). Makes sense from what we’ve heard.

    However, if Katie didn’t have the gene, that’d mean Suri would be a carrier but otherwise fine.

    And look at young Tom Cruise pictures, there’s similarities there between him and Suri.

    Stop speculating on the poor kid, she’s going to read this one day.

  59. Kristina says:

    Tom Cruise is sterile and can not father a child that is why he and Nicole adopted and Nicole went on to have a biological child with her new husband. Suri’s father is Tom’s cousin William Mapother, Katie was impregnated with his sperm. Tom would not pass a paternity test, he and Katie both know this, that’s why she received primary custody and he did not fight for joint custody.

    • aussie says:

      Nicole had an ectopic pregnancy and at least one miscarriage while married to tom; she has spoken about them several times, even fairly recently, and she had a miscarriage at around the time his lawyer told Nicole that tom was divorcing her…he is a cad.

      She now has two more children with Keith Urban…they are gorgeous.

    • Jaded says:

      Proof Kristina….we need more than your conjecture about Tom’s sperm count and his brother providing viable swimmers. How do you explain Nicole Kidman’s miscarriages? It may be that Tom has fertility problems, and while I think it could be totally possible that Suri was conceived via turkey baster, we can’t be sure of anything until there is a paternity test. Which I doubt will happen EVER.

    • anony says:

      Cruise is sterile. Known for years. That’s why the adoptions.
      Miscarriages? Lies advised by the Co$ to make Cruise looks good. Nicole went along with them before she couldn’t take it anymore. Now she’s sworn to secrecy by their divorce.
      Holmes became pregnant while Cruise was offering her his “contract with incentives.” (Chris Klein?) That’s why she took the deal so quickly.
      Paternity and all his “secrets” that she knows are why he folded so fast. In the past five years, she’s made close to $100 million from their “agreement.”
      Got it?

  60. Jennifer12 says:

    Whatever else, that is Tom Cruise’s child. She looks exactly like him.

  61. Michael GAYbender says:

    and this (for the pic u have 2 scrol down)
    Could NEVER be Suri’s dad…But Tommy Davis, NO DOUBT he must be her dad!

  62. wyzy says:

    Joshua Jackson is Suri’s biological father

  63. Shane says:

    As an ex-church of scientology member, in 2004-2005 I personally witnessed set ups/ pimping by David Miscavige for his “man-wife” Tom Cruise. David Miscavige ordered all his “church” organizations around the world to find beautiful women between the ages of 20 to 25 years old for a “special project.” Yolanda Pecoraro (19) was a parishioner at the Celebrity Center International in Los Angeles was set up with Tom. She dated him for about 4 weeks and accompanied him to a Scientology event to generate cash donations which are used by Miscavige:

    Yolanda is wearing the long pink dress 10 seconds into this clip, standing between Tom Cruise and Mary Lee (Tom’s mother).

    David Miscavige’s secret Sea Org pimping team consisted of veteran RTC member Greg Wilhere (who assaulted Steve Hall, creator of, in an effort to stop him from escaping from the Sea Org in 2004), Tommy Davis (who twice lied on national TV denying the practice of disconnection), Jessica Feschback, Shane Woodruff (President of Celebrity Center International in 2004) and Shelley Miscavige (who David Miscavige “disappeared” in 2006 and who has not been seen since). These were all highly-placed Church executives running this “special project” to find the most sexually alluring, highly educated females with squeaky-clean ethics records.

    This entire Miscavige/Cruise “special project” was a predatory front using false pretenses, Church organizations and resources to filter unwary candidates and funnel women into Tom Cruise’s bed. Thus what it really amounts to was CHURCH-SPONSORED RAPE.

    During the last 2 weeks of their relationship, David Miscavige was busy pimping another woman for Tom Cruise. Their next victim was a 25-year old brunette who was also a Scientology parishioner. A thorough background check and investigation was done on her at Celebrity Center International.

    In the meantime, Tom Cruise dismissed Yolanda, buying her silence by purchasing a huge amount of Scientology services training and auditing (a bribe worth tens of thousands of dollars). Yolanda’s entire family were Scientologists and all were coerced to sign bonds of confidentiality to maintain secrecy and never expose the truth to any media, otherwise they will be declared suppressive persons and disconnected from everyone they know.

    The new brunette was told she had been chosen to help expand Scientology and that she would be meeting with top VIPs and world officials. Too late, she realized that Church officials had lied to her. She expressed concern and raised questions. The entire facade was a lie; no self-respecting woman would willingly allow herself to be so used, degraded and humiliated. Instead of using force, they used cunning falsehoods and half truths to entrap her.

    Miscavige and Cruise quickly shifted into damage-control mode, sending her off to the sprawling Flag Service Organization in Clearwater, Florida. There, Miscavige henchman, Tommy Davis (by order of David Miscavige) had the woman imprisoned, emotionally tortured and interrogated for four months. There she was forced to do heavy physical labor. The intention was to break her emotionally and spiritually, to destroy her will power and self respect as a human being.

    They failed.

    Tom Cruise and David Miscavige are sex criminals, human rights violators, and abusive-monster sociopaths. My heart goes to those great people, normal parishioners and staff who are trapped in this cult out of fear of being disconnected from loved ones and being harassed if they ever come forward to expose their truth.

  64. Shane says:

    Tom Cruise is incapable of impregnating any woman. I know for fact.
    I love to see a paternity test done to find out whose Suri’s real dad is. Suri deserves to be connected to her real dad.

    It is so sad to see how many families, especially children and parents are being torn apart by the church of Scientology & its criminal leader David Miscavige. Tom Cruise has been accessory to all these human rights violations and crimes. Now that Katie tries to remove herself and Suri from all these insanities, Tom is feeling “poor me”.
    Tom, the truth is “You deserve to get what you do yourself to others”. Disconnection is a policy that your buddy David Miscavige is applying to all these beautiful souls who said NO to the cult.