Willow Smith, 13, has been an international music star since the age of 11. She’s grown up fast, and her parents have made it clear that they have a hands-off parenting style that recognizes their children as little adults. (Which is most likely based on the teachings of the Scientology cult.) Willow has pushed back somewhat against her parents’ insistence that she grow up fast and join the family business. A couple of years ago she decided to pull out of the Annie movie remake that her dad, Will Smith, created for her as a starring vehicle. She also put her singing career on hold.
That’s all preface for this latest controversy in which Willow, just 13, was photographed in bed with 20 year-old former Hannah Montana actor, Moises Arias, who happened to be shirtless. (You can see that picture here.) To put this into context, Will Smith has said, of discipline, that “the rule in our house is you can do anything that you want and we don’t pull the parent card until danger is involved.” So does that mean that Willow, 13, is being left unsupervised with 20 year-olds?
The photo was posted to Twitter by Arias and deleted, but it’s still up on the website 490tx.com, which is said to be the site of “a mutual photographer friend.” That site has photos of Willow, her brother Jaden, and Kendall and Kylie Jenner, all of whom seem to run in the same circles and were at Coachella together. (Remember when Jaden was said to be dating Kylie?) Also there are plenty of photos of Arias shirtless, and that seems to be his default state.
So the picture that has everyone talking may be totally innocent. Maybe they were just hanging out. There was another person taking the picture after all. For her part, Willow hasn’t addressed this directly. She tweeted Sunday that she “meditated for 5 hours last night” and she also retweeted a Childish Gambino (Troy from Community) tweet that “u don’t know me.” We seem to know that she’s 13 and hanging out with much older teens. If I was her mother, I would be checking up on her. Then again, if I was her mom I like to think she wouldn’t be in that situation. You never know, though, kids are tricky.
Here are photos of Willow and Jaden at Coachella with Kendall and Kylie Jenner. Who was watching them?!
Photo credit: WENN.com and FameFlynet
I think the main question here is WHY is a 20 year old MAN hanging out with a 13 year old girl?!
The second question is, why aren’t her parents actually parenting her (I know, CO$) because it seems like she is living as an adult on her own, but 13 is NOT an adult.
+ a gazillion.
Exactly. Why is a guy almost old enough to be graduating college hanging out with an 8th grader?
Because he may or may not be a drug dealer or child molester.
Exactly.
I wrote the same thing, should have read first.
Wow!! This culture is absolutely going to get me nuts before my time…
So I guess girls (which is what she is) are now allowed to make decisions that they have very little awareness of at that age. I suppose their parenting style is theirs, and we should respect this. But at the same time, this is disturbing me, a lot!!
We have to accept their parenting style but we don’t have to respect it.
@mich
Their “style of parenting” appears to be no parenting at all.
yes, THIS. When I was 20, hanging out with a 13 y.o. would make me feel like a babysitter.
in fact, right after college graduation, when I was waiting tables (at 22 y.o.), I found even the 18-19 year-olds to be tiresome and annoying.
in this guy’s case, I feel certain that he doesn’t care about her age because she’s a celeb offspring. it’s all about the connections in that biz…
I never really bought into the rumors that Will and Jada were into Scientology, but this is textbook philosophy for them. They really do think that their souls are older than their bodies and kids should be treated like miniature adults.so yeah, no big deal if your 13 year old is hooking up with a 20 year old. Gross
End thread.
For real you just wrote what I instantly thought as any sane person should think tbh. 13 yo are dumb. Hell I wished a 20yo would have paid attention to my 13 yo self because it would be cool or whatever. I want to know what the heck an adult is thinking. Twat.
You know the Smiths don’t care. They pushed their children into showbusiness, they’re insane. I’ll never forget Willow crying when her mom told horrible family things to another family member on tv. And how she didn’t want to play the new Annie because she wanted to be a kid. Her decision-making at this point is better than her parents at this point and that’s saying something.
Exactly. All the adults in this situation need a foot up the ass. Those poor kids.
This.
What Samatha ‘said’ to the nth power.
That was my first thought. Unless they’re related, I don’t understand why a 20-year-old would be hanging out with a 13-year-old. This has disaster written all over it.
Exactly!
THIS Lucy2
THIS THIS THIS
Sorry but it’s lazy or just plain shitty parenting if you CAN but actively and proudly opt out of PARENTING your kids. People like that a selfish and often narcissistic.
Sad
I have a shitton of questions here:
*fixes papers and clears throat newscaster styles*
Where are her parents?
Where are her parents when a 13 y.o is at Coachella?
Are they gonna Let her go to Burning Man Too?
Are Will and Jada Poor in any way that they needed to push their kids so damned hard into Show Business?
Do They go to school?
That 20 y.o guy is Ok Hanging with Children? if so Is he in the sex offenders Registry in Cali or Nah?
Why the fuck are these two Jenner girls involved in about any trash story that pops up from Teenlandia?
Dont this girl have a Praying Granny or someone that will keep her from the vile vultury stuff that abounds in Hollyweird?
Where are her Parentsssss?
I find it really REALLY odd/scary that a 13 year old would even be at Coachella in the first place. WITHOUT adult supervision (and by adult, I don’t mean the sketchy 20 year old and Jenner kids, I mean parental figures). Coachella is a sketchy place.
And hell to the YES – why the F is a 20 year old hanging out with a 13 year old!
I think we need to become Willow’s Praying Grannies. All of us here on Celebitchy should be her Praying Granny!!!!! It seems like all of us know better than her dumb clueless parents!
I am pretty sure they don’t do any schooling to speak of. I feel like that’s been brought up before. Jada has a new part on Gotham and Will is reclaiming his youth through his son I guess.
LMAO @ “Praying Granny” Only praying grannies are more powerful than Xenu! I’m not religious but I do truly hope there’s a family member in her life who loves her that much.
@littlestar: I was just having a conversation with my 16 year old about Coachella. We live in SoCal so several of her friends go to it. I told her there was absolutely NO way she was going to this while in high school. She’s a good girl, but there is no way I’m going to let her get exposed to the kind of stuff that goes on there. I said when she’s in college-fine. But not as a teen. And I can’t even imagine my 13 year old even asking to go (or even knowing about it, quite frankly). Why do these permissive parents let their young teens do stuff like this?????
HappyMom – good for you! I have no doubt that when your daughter is an adult, she is going to thank you for not letting her go to Coachella as a teen. And for that reason alone, if she ends up going as an adult, she’ll enjoy the experience even more. The fact that celebrities do drugs out in the open at Coachella (remember Vanessa Hudgens and her “white chocolate”) just goes to show you one small part of what really goes on at Coachella. I had a friend go for the first time this year, and she said while the music was great, the rest was really disgusting and she would not go again (and I consider her to be one of my most open minded to new experiences friends).
Edit: I think a lot of people see Coachella as the “cool” place to go to every year. I think a lot of people go for the bragging rights, hence why it has become so popular and well known.
I saw the picture and to say that she’s “in bed with a 20 yr old” is kind of a misnomer. She’s on the bed fully clothed and there doesn’t appear to be any physical contact with Moises. She and Jaden hang out with him and his brother regularly. Having said that, I do think it is irresponsible of Will and Jada to let their kids run their own lives as if they are fully realized adults. The truth of the matter is, no matter how mature they seem, they are still too young to be left to their own devices. Hollywood kids tend to be exposed to things that the average teen/preteen wouldn’t be exposed to. That’s why so many of them go off the rails. I don’t see any good coming from the Smith’s hands off approach to parenting. Drew Barrymore grew up like that, and even though she turned it around, she was a trainwreck for a while. And there are SO many other cautionary Hollywood tales that one could point to that would show them that they are facilitating an early downward spiral for their kids.
Precisely. Why aren’t people screaming at him? Willow’s 13 years old; she’s not capable of making good decisions about stuff like this.
The saddest part of this story is the Scientology connection. Jeez. As for the picture, it seems innocent to me. The older guy seems gay, so nothing is happening on that front, IMO. Plus he’s a hanger on (much like Whitney Houston’s son/son-in-law). Oh wait, that didn’t turn out well either. Never mind LOL
When I was 13, I had to be home by the time the streetlights came on!!!! My how times have changed!!!
LOL, yes me too! And we had no cell phones, spent all day outdoors and we were fine. Times have changed, and not for the better.
Stories like this make me VERY glad and appreciative that I grew up on a farm far away from any kind of trouble. There was no going to Coachella at 13 for me, hanging out with 20yos, that’s for sure!
In my current world with my teens and their friends-this is still NOT happening!!!
Oh man at 13 I would have died to hang out with hot older boys. And I totally would have tried to prove how adult and cool I was. Hope she’s more mature than I was.
Have you seen what that Moises guy looks like or that other way older guy she use to hang with Lil’Twist ( I think that’s his name)? Because they are so far from the definition of hot. They aren’t even cute in a “if I was 13 I’d understand the attraction” sort of way. That boy Moises face is pure struggle.
This guy is constantly seen in the background of pictures with the Jenner/Smith group. He is probably tired of people not knowing who he is, so he’s letting us know, Kardashian – style.
I finally remembered who Moises is. Is he really 20? That would make him Miley’s age, and he always played a character several years younger than her on the Hannah Montana show. He was in her grade only because he was a tiny (and megalomaniac) genius. He might have just been very small for his age and playing younger – but is it possible people have his age wrong?
Right, co$ cult dictates that children are adults anyway. That’s why their leader had thirteen year old “deckhands” in short shorts back in the day. This cult is so pedophile sick, so it’s par for the course that co$ parents allow behavior that is beyond age appropriate. These kids could be so talented, and yet they seem to be headed down the path of flakiness and entitlement.
I am a long time celebitchy fan but never comment on posts. However, I feel the need to comment on this. As a former member of a cult, I will tell you that this behavior appears to be the norm. Why? Because when you’re as young as I was (15) and taken into a cult your taught to divisiveness in some manner. They are broken or some how separated from their central unit, which is their family. And are trained to only rely on the church. Altugh the! Will and Jada are adults and should have more involvement with their children, I do believe that Scientology has brain washed them, just like any other adult family that is currently in a cult. When you are in a cult, you don’t realize the very harmful things you are doing to others or yourself when you are a member. Hell, you don’t even know you are in a cult you have usually wasted years of your life because of it. In my heart I do believe that the Smith’s and Tom Cruise are really good people, but as a result of teachings of the cult they have exhibited very harmful behavior to their kids.
I’ve no doubt she’s been exposed to more than I’d expose my daughter to, but the photo itself looks harmless to me, she’s fully clothed.
I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks the photo looks harmless. It also looks like their bodies don’t touch. But I’d echo what others have said above: why does a 20 years old want to hang out with a 13 years old???
Exactly. Plus, it was taken by their mutual friend who is a photographer. Not exactly the shadiest thing, even though I’d prefer any future eighth grade daughter of mine not to hang around on beds with adult males.
@Erinn Jaden likely took the pictures. I’ve seen the other photos. It was Jaden, Kardashians/Jenner, Willow and the actor kid all hanging out.
The photo looks disturbing to me. 13 year old Willow is curled up on a bed looking sad, facing away from a shirtless full grown man who is sitting up and grinning from ear to ear. That’s not what harmless looks like to me. Child protective services needs to check in on those two Smith children.
Hopefully someone will call CPS. Paging Gloria Allard! or whatever her name is.
@Mollie, who wrote: “I’ve no doubt she’s been exposed to more than I’d expose my daughter to, but the photo itself looks harmless to me, she’s fully clothed.”
Yes, Willow ‘is’ fully clothed and they’re not even touching. There are obviously other people in the room and other outlets are saying the pictures were deliberating posed/taken for Social Media. I don’t see the harm.
Unless I’m mistaken, her head appears to be resting on his knee.
Ok, I might be totally naive, but the photo in itself doesn’t look extremely disturbing to me. We don’t know anything about the circumstances it was taken in. Maybe she is very close to her older brother (like many celebrity children are close to their siblings because they go to the same craziness) and they have the same friends? It seems the photographer friend was also taking pics of Jaden, so he probably was there as well. Maybe even her parents were in the next room?
@Isadora I said this to “Erinn”. Looks like they were all hanging out and taking photos of each other. Not a professional setting/photographer. There’s even a pic of Jaden in his boxers, sitting between the legs of one of those Kardashian/Jenner(whoever) girls. Looks like they’re about to….
Anyway, judging by the other photos, this is not a place a 13 y/o girl should be.
She’s a child of scientology. Anything she does shouldn’t come as a surprise. The photo is innocuous and perception is everything.
Call me when she’s showing her tits on the net a la the Nondashians.
So Will said that his kids can pretty much do anything they want unless danger is involved. Does this include their 13 year old daughter having sex as long as she protects herself?
On a different note damn Kylie and Willow have some long legs.
In the Co$, yes. They don’t have any real rules to follow until they reach sixteen, but children of OT level members or celebrities really have no boundaries or rules to abide by.
Think God Katie got Surie away from that.
They are not COS, Will, Jada, Trey and Jaden have stated they are not COS multiple times.They have parents who let them do what they want to do. Are their best friends, the Jenner Kids Scientologists?
They are scientologists. They implement the same parenting principles in their lives, they operated a scientology school until it shut down because of mismanagement (something common among scino businesses), they incorporate scino speak in their discussions although it’s easier for the adults to hide the speech quirks than the children, and they recently starred in a heavily scientology influenced movie that bombed.
As to denying being scientologists, of course they would. With the kind of bad publicity the cult already gets, and the brand Will has built prior to his involvement, it makes fiscal sense.
The nondashians are easy targets for recruiting since they don’t have a strong foothold in any religion and they’re stupid.
why is this still in contention? actions speak louder than words, and these asshats ran a Sceinto school. The end.
They founded a CO$ school. It’s pretty safe bet they’re into it. Read Going Clear. Horrifying.
They’re lying. They founded a Co$ school, their philosophy about raising children is pure Scientology, and that crap movie with Jaden was also Scientologiriffic.
Admitting you’re a Scientologist is bad for business. A Scientologist who was not rich would not be allowed to deny it, but celebrities can get away with a lot more in the cult so long as they keep ponying up the cash.
This is yet another example of how stupid people are with social media! Even if it is 1000% innocent….what does this look like?! To an outsider what does this look like?! She’s a 13 year old girl, foolishness to be expected. He’s a 20 year old working actor. Not working for much longer if this is the PR he generates.
Totally.
When I was 14 I was dating a 19-year-old.
Very happy that social media wasn’t a thing back then.
OK, me too!
Well when I was a teenager I never dated out of my age range but I did have it bad for Michael Jordon back then. If I could have gotten my teenage hands on him all rules and regulations would have been out the door. I would have slam dunked his ass. 🙂
As a kid, I thought Jordan was one of the most beautiful men I had ever seen, but I wasn’t allowed to like him because of the Celtics.
Yeah, Kitten I am almost totally immune to stuff like that (which is pretty bad), because I see it constantly. I’m beginning to think that’s why there are so many registered sex offenders where I live–there are like six in my tiny little town alone–because they’re all these 20 somethings dating 14, 15, and 16 year olds–I think it is gross. I question the judgement of someone who is willing to risk going to jail for something THAT stupid–sex with someone underage. Ugh. I still find it weird if someone over twenty creeps on me.
Kitten, me too. 😉 But it was all quite harmless, we dated for a few months, shared intense kisses and cuddled quite a bit, but I never even slept with him.
Oh and I was at my first Death Metal concert when I was 15, which would probably equal the “Coachella incident”. I even drank a beer or two there. But I was at home at 11 pm (not drunk).
Exactly.
She is the same age as my son and no way in HELL would he be trasping off to Glastonbury on his own with a bunch of 13-17 y/o’s. He could but I would be right there behind him. It’s nice to have some independence but for me a bit too much for my liking.
The photo could be absolutely harmless. I like the way it’s shot so it could have just been a good shot they wanted. However…….. like that ‘harmless’ shot of Miley and Billy Ray a few years back, it’s about perception.
I’m sure Willow’s not in any ‘danger’ but what’s her parents’ definition of danger? Quite a bit of my behavior as a 13 year old was governed by my parents rules. I wouldn’t do some things not because I though they were ‘bad’ but because my parents had set boundaries that I for the most part respected. If Willow doesn’t have the boundaries, does she think about when’s a good time to stop and not do something? I’m sure she’s smart and possibly wiser about some things given her particular life than your average 13 year old but she’s still 13. I hope Mama and Papa are keeping a closer eye than they let on.
I agree. We have no idea of the context in which this was taken.
I’m with you ladies.
I mean, granted she’s only 13 and she still has plenty of time to f*ck her life up, but up until this point she’s managed to avoid controversy, right? I haven’t heard about her getting in trouble.
Also, Smith did say “we don’t pull the parent card until danger is involved” so obviously there are some boundaries there. I doubt it’s Lord of The Flies like people here are making it out to be
It’s not the photo itself that bothers me, I’ll agree it’s not terribly scandalous or suggestive as the headline would suggest. It’s the idea of a grown man hanging out with a bunch of young teenagers, including a 13 year old girl, that’s very questionable, IMO.
At least they stopped hanging out with Bieber, I think.
Yeah…I mean, I don’t know.
I can concede that it’s questionable but I also think that showbiz kids probably have a rather limited community where I could see how they might feel comfortable around each other, regardless of age.
I’m trying to be as objective as possible here but truthfully, after looking at his IMDB, they BOTH look like kids to me.
Eh. For some reason, I’m just not outraged by this.
Yeah, there really isn’t any context to the photo.
TBH, I am not really outraged by this photo. 13 year old kids do stupid stuff all the time, plus the dude is shirtless in ALL the photos on that tumblr account.
Even when you have boundaries and supervision, teenagers will do what teenagers can do. I was pretty rebellious as a 13-15 year old kid, smoking, went to bars, drink alcohol, hang out with an older crowd (when I was 14, my best friend was in college), date older guys, and believe me my parents did set boundaries (and curfews), I just didn’t respect them (because as we all know teenagers are dumb).
Anyway, I’m not as disturbed by this photo because a) there’s no context, b) it’s not like they were alone naked in bed which then I would be concerned c) it looks like it’s the same crowd in social media. Personally, I don’t understand what this 20 year old is doing hanging out with the jenners and the smiths, but I’m guessing he isn’t that mature either. Ah well.
I see the Smith children and the Jenners and I actually feel sympathy for them-the Smiths seem to have no guidance and the Jenners live with Momanger Mussolini. You have to wonder in what universe would it be appropriate for a 20 year old man to be in bed with a 13 year old?
+100. upthread people are saying it looks harmless b/c they are not touching. but, hello, it’s a junior high school kid laying in the bed with a half-naked man! roman polanski must be salivating wherever he is.
This.
There is no context in which a grown man lying in bed with a 13-year old girl is harmless. Especially in Hollywood. As for other people being there, that is utterly meaningless. Hollywood is the land of taking sexual advantage of young girls. It’s what they all do.
I think that guy is Jayden’s friend but it really is inappropriate imo.
And why is Jayden (who’s all of 15 or 16) hanging out with a 20 year old?
So many questions lol, I wish I knew, but this sketchy family baffles me.
Jaden and Willow look very alike.
There may not be a relationship between them -at least i hope not-. But for the life of me, i still can’t understand why a 20 year-old would hang out with a 13 year-old.
That’s a creepy picture. 🙁 a grown man has no business hanging around a 13 year old child. And why does her brother only have that one expression he looks constipated.
Yeesh. That’s all I can think to say about that photo.
I am guessing that someone will come out & say it was a modeling picture? It creeps me out, because there is no denying the age difference in that photo. She looks like a child & he looks like an adult.
even if it is innocent, like a photoshoot, still creepy.
from the pictures you linked to it looks like they were all hanging around that house… which can mean anything… but the picture itself is evidence to nothing in particular.
I don’t see what is the deal with the picture. I think her parents let her lead a life that most of us would find unsuitable for a young teen, and in five years she may be the next Miley.
She’s only one year older than my son. *Shudders*
Hey, Jada isn’t a regular mom, she’s a COOL mom!
Sorry, unless Scientology has magically imbued her with the emotional maturity of a thirty year old, then he shouldn’t be hanging around her and her parents shouldn’t be allowing it to happen.
Maybe it has. I know 13 year olds in other countries are a lot more mature and take on adult responsibilities that American kids would not be able to handle. Kids in places like Africa, Asia and the Middle East have had no choice but to mature quickly in order to survive in their culture .Perhaps this is what happened to the Smith kids on some level . They’ve been treated like adults all their lives. Willow might be 13 in years, but not in maturity. I have heard her in interviews and she doesn’t speak or behave like a preteen at all.
No, no it hasn’t. Teenagers tend to be really good at pretending maturity they do not actually have.
Any man who would get into bed with a 13-year old girl is not a man I’d trust to be around anyone, let alone 13-year old girls.
Yet another example of pathetic parenting and poor judgement by her Scientologist parents. Between Jaden’s moronic musings about the damage an education does, to this bizarre display of inappropriateness, nothing about these people surprises me anymore. Why would any 20 year old guy be hanging around with a 13 year old girl anyway?
I think that guy Moises Arias has been close friends with the Smith family for years. I don’t think there’s anything inappropriate going on. I do feel for Willow, though. I constantly see photos of her hanging out with older kids. Does she have any friends her own age? I know that she’s homeschooled. She just seems a bit lost to me. I hope everything is ok.
Most children who are sexually abused are abused by family or friends of the family.
Exactly…
This may or may not be anything but the optics are bad indeed. Cringeworthy actually.
Agree. It appears that her head is resting on his bent knee.
Gross. I was pretty independent and mature for my age at 13. I did a lot of things on my own and learned to take care of myself, and I had older friends. But at the end of the day, I was still a 13 year old and treated as such by my parents. No way would I have been allowed to socialise with a fast crowd, or hang out significantly older men on my own.
Same I was pretty mature at 13. I used to be around older guys all the time but not in a bedroom situation. I knew the repercussions of that. I really hope this child is sane because that scien cult whatever is called …
I actually don’t find this hugely odd. I was mostly home schooled, and so I had a pretty eclectic mix of friends of different ages. Some were primarily my older siblings friends, but others were people I met at the library, at clubs and groups I was involved in etc. At 14 I had a few 20yr old friends I’d met while taking some classes at the local college. If you aren’t in regular school, and you leave your house within regular school hours, you’re going to be interacting with a lot of people who aren’t your age, and it doesn’t feel weird because you’ve never gone to school and spent most of your day just with people who are your age. I’ve never understood this thing some people have of not getting why anyone wants to interact with people who aren’t their age. I’m in my 30’s now and I’m happy spending time with my teenage godchildren, and happy spending time with my 89yr old neighbor.
The picture just looks like the usual faux ‘arty’ shots teenagers like to pose for when they’re hanging out. They’re on a bed but it’s not a sexual image at all and it seems like there were lots of other people around.
Yes! My kids are home schooled and my 16 yo has friends that range in age from 13 to 22, male and female. She takes college classes and I have said no when she was invited to off campus parties. But her going to comic book conventions or the movies with older people I have no problem with. I don’t get the strict age segregation. BTW……. At 20 he should know better than to post that picture.
I was totally thinking of this, Penny and aang.
There’s a great poster around here called TheOriginalTiffany who’s husband plays for the Cirque du Soleil band. Her kids travel tour with the group and receive their education through Cirque-this means that the performer’s kids who range in age are often socialized together. I’ve seen a similar effect in charter schools too, where kids of all ages are integrated into one classroom.
I don’t know..maybe I’m defending too much but this doesn’t bother me like it does others. I’m also not a mom, so there’s that.
Whether or not it is “totally innocent”, I am completely freaked out by how young kids are having sex these days. My best friend in middle school had a couple pregnancy scares in 7th grade and that was pretty unusual at the time. It seems like its not unusual now.
I read some of Willow’s statements on the DM and she said she basically DOESN’T GO TO SCHOOL AT ALL. Because she’s “on tour” with her dad. They have a tutor on tour but she flat out said she doesn’t attend the lessons. So, she’s growing up filthy rich, completely unsupervised, and totally uneducated. This should end well.
Same with the Jenner girls who are also being “homeschooled”. Ugh.
Yeah, homeschooled my a**.
What kind of lessons are they?
Lesson 1. This is the number for TMZ.
Lesson 2. This is the number for paparazzi agency that gives us the biggest kick back on our pictures.
Lesson 3. This is the number of our plastic surgeon., etc….
This is ALL for publicity!!
`The rule in our house is that you can do anything you want until danger is involved`.Great parenting Will, just great.
No, no, no. My 13 year old child would not be allowed to ‘hang out’ with 20-somethings. Period. End of story. I don’t care how mature, level-headed or what have you.
It seems like an innocent shoot to me, still not right but I wouldn’t call that dangerous. I just hope that after seeing that Willow’s parents will step up.. at least I wish. BUT she needs friends her own age and above all she needs to get off the Jenner girls company, that’s bad news.
I read the 20yr old is “good friends with Jaden” ummmmmm since when are TWENTY YEAR OLD MEN good friends with any 15yr old? That, in itself, is creepy.
I do not care IF there were other “friends” hanging out with them, the whole idea of a 20yr old hanging with teens is skeevy on so many levels.
I have a 13-year-old daughter and no way would I be comfortable with her sitting on a bed (no matter how “innocent” it is/appears) with a shirtless 20-year-old man. NOPE.
“International Music Star?” Puhleeeeeze. This is what passes for celebrity culture today — basically a lottery, where any minor nonsense elevates you to some “stardom” for a period.
Yeah, I cringed at the “international” part. Then I kept cringing troughout the entire story.
Yes a thousand times, How much do so-called reporters have to smoke, or get paid off, to write such drivel.
Wasn’t there a blind about the underage daughter of A listers being photographed in bed but it was with a women? The guesses were all pointed towards Willow. It had something to do with a missing cellphone.
I just don’t understand how they were able to go to coachella by themselves. I think the younger jenner girl is like 16 and at that she my mother wouldn’t let me drive at night, let alone go on an overnight trip with a bunch of friends to a music festival.
Like one of the comments above, these kids are all rich and uneducated. There’s nothing cool about that.
Looks like Willow has had a nose job.
I know everyone’s all “OMG I love Will Smith” and all that, but damn, this family bothers me for some reason.
Really? I feel like people are all “OMG I HATE WILL SMITH” around here.
Personally, I’m completely indifferent to him, but I still love me some Fresh Prince. Can’t nobody take that away from me.
I still love Fresh Prince too and had a crush on Will Smith when I was a teenager. Now I find him and his family weirdly sad (with really questionable parenting practises) and wish he would just go back to being who he used to be (or who I used to THINK he was when I was a teenager lol).
So we both wish Fresh Prince was a real person, is what you’re saying.
Yup!
I can’t wait when she’s older and she writes a tell all about growing up this way. I wonder if she will view it the same way. Yes, I do think children should be treated with more dignity and respect but it’s also the duty of the parents to guide them and protect them as much as they can.
Willow probably thinks she’s all grown. She’s been exposed to way too much at such a young age.
Does she know how to construct a sentence, let alone a paragraph? And how about her vocabulary? Sounds like a 1 page book to me.
Willow was wise to get out of the Annie role- she is simply not qualified. She’s not a real singer, her dad just bought her all the engineers and other trappings of a pretend career, the same way normal parents might buy a dollhouse. I doubt she can act any more convincingly than her older brother (who would never be cast in anything if he had to go the unknown child route of auditions, with no famous name and no parents who buy him movies). She would have had to work very hard for a poor result that would have had people laughing at her. She needs to grow up and decide what she really has potential for and work her way up in whatever endeavor she chooses. She is do undereducated that unfortunately she’s unlikely to get exposed to the real world and all it’s possibilities. There’s a reason smart adults don’t let children decide what they want to study in school. It’s like foot binding for the brain.
I don’t find the photo innocuous. It is highly suggestive and totally inappropriate.
Willow is only 13. WTF hanging out on a bed with a half clothed adult man? The adults in the room should have known better.
Everyone’s “shocked” comments are blown out of proportion. Look at all the other photos on the blog. It shows the Jenner girls, the Smiths and these Moises boys hanging out like a bunch of trust fund kids they are with unlimited amount of money and time to do whatever they want. They think they are being artists and creative and carefree from these photos. I don’t think it means anything is going on sexually between a 13 yo and a 20 yo. It just looks like rich kids being rich kids. It’s not the same for the rest of us peasants.
You find nothing odd by a 20yr old man who enjoys hanging out with 16, 15 and 13yr olds?
That is a college Sophmore or Junior hanging out with an 8th grader.
I’m not saying it’s not weird, I’m just saying if you look at it with the fact that the Smiths have been raised to be older than they actually are and the “artistic” bubble they have created for themselves, it does not surprise me. Like others who have been homeschooled/raised in foster homes with a range of different aged children, it’s not THAT shocking. It may not be the status quo, but it doesn’t mean they are being sexual with each other.
I agree. I was expecting some ESCANDALO! (As Michael K would say) pics. But this looked like a “just starting out” photographer trying to be artsy. They aren’t even touching. And super wealthy people are different — especially those of the Hollywood variety. And, I mean, who knows…maybe they are considering doing a pilot or a movie together. Who knows. What I do know, though, is that picture is not nearly as bad as I was expecting from the reaction.
exactly.
People excused what Roman Polanski did by saying he was an artist and they lived in a different world, and that it was okay for him to commit rape because that’s just the way they were. It’s bs.
A grown man does not hang out in bed with a 13-year old girl. PERIOD. There is no excuse, certainly not being “artistic” or Hollywood.
Start living an adult life at such an early age and burn out/destroy yourself before you actually become an adult = Lohan syndrome.
Hope the family is ready for what is surely to come.
“the rule in our house is you can do anything that you want and we don’t pull the parent card until danger is involved.” Wow, that’s some parenting Will. To let kids just run amuck, I just don’t get it. Kids need to learn what’s right and wrong, and they have to have boundaries. They don’t pull the ‘parent card’? How stupid a comment. Did they have their kids as accessories or to have a family? Very immature approach to raising children. Here kids go do what you want, when you want and don’t call us until you get into serious trouble. Just ridiculous.
Agreed.
These kids are going to have serious problems…no, wait, they already do. 🙁
Usually when danger is involved, it’s too late. And what is dangerous to them? They were fine with their son was hanging out with Justin Bieber for a while – you know nothing good is happening there.
I just hope those kids somehow are actually smarter than their lazy parents.
She is the absolute spittin’ image of Will.
Hm. I don’t know about the pic, it looks innocent enough. Just because they are hanging out doesn’t mean they are having sex. And if they were, I think at that age there is not much you can actually “do” against it. It’s better to teach them about birth control and to encourage them to not let themselves get pressured into anything.
As for Coachella, I don’t know the admission age but I find the idea of supervision for a group of teenagers really funny. Did you go out supervised at that age?Okay, Willow ist still 13, but she was the youngest. No way would I have wanted supervision at age 16.
The only really weird thing here is a 13 yr old meditating for 5 hours. WTF?
My mother had an interesting way of dealing with the issue of what kids wanted: she didn’t give a shit. It worked.
Well with kids that’s probably the best way. But they are not kids anymore. Not yet adults, but definitely not kids either.
I guess I’m the only one not clutching my pearls over this. The photo looks completely innocuous.
Kendall is 18 so I’m guessing she was considered the “adult supervision”. I think all these kids have way too much freedom and no rules. They should be hanging out with kids their own ages. Also, can we honestly say Willow is “an international music star”? I only know of one hit song (whip my hair). I thought she said she was leaving the “business” to be a “normal” kid for a while?
When I was 15 my super strict parents decided they would try being the cool parents. They let me hang out with a 20 year old guy I liked and you know what? He drugged and sexually assaulted me. So maybe I have a biased view here, but obviously, I see lots of potential problems here.
Wow, that’s horrible. Yeah I believe any freedom you give your kids should start at 18…that’s when you’re legally an adult and responsible for your own actions. Until that age, the parents are responsible.
I was a 13 year old with zero supervision…I know what happens and at the time you think it’s fun, later on you realize it’s wrong.
I’m sorry that happened to you. I agree that a much older man with a teenage girl just sees opportunity. Especially a teenage girl who thinks she’s an adult and has rich parents.
I knew some older guys who liked to hang out with young teenagers when I was a young teenager. Every single one of them sexually assaulted girls. Every. Single. One.
Looking back now, I realize there was probably a lot of that going on. If only I knew then what I know now……it’s sickening.
Holy cow, what a monster. Terrible.
I guess Katie Holmes’ preemptive move saved us from a future round of Suri + James Franco photos?
It’s so wrong that I laughed at this.
These kids were born into a life of luxury. They probably don’t even realize how lucky they are. I bet they complain about the dumbest things. How nice to never have to worry about getting a job or making a resume or going to college. They have it made. Unfortunately, with this kind of lifestyle comes a lot of emotional issues. They may seem mature for their ages now, but they will, at some point, “get stuck” on an age and remain there. This mostly happens at the age their “stardom” begins to fade. The Jenner girls are almost there now…
Im not sure why child services hasn’t been called. If “normal” parents were allowing and promoting a little girl to be with an adult man I’d see mugshots with an arrest arrival below. .. but because they are all famous we dont?
And by the way this childl is no way I hell a famous singer….infamous yes….like lindsay and it’s friday girl… but not famous.
Crazy scientology ppl…sigh…
It’s so obvious Willow wants attention from her parents. Both of these kids do. Will and Jada were probably so busy raising little adults they forgot to treat them like children and give them a little attention.
Creepy but harmless photo.
Red flags!! Red flags!! Now would be a good time to intervene as the parents of your 2 children/teenagers, Will & Jada. THIS IS WHAT BEING A PARENT MEANS: you signed up for a certain, intense level of supervision and guidance during their childhood years. Your 13 y/o child/daughter has absolutely NO BUSINESS being in bed with a 20 year old MAN, no matter how innocent or harmless it may appear. NONE.
Is it just me or are all their kids weird looking? Willow looks exactly like Will did on fresh prince….its so weird to see that face on a girl…
Most 13 year olds are going through an awkward phase. I think Will’s kids are pretty attractive and will grow up to be quite good looking. To each their own I guess.
I don’t understand why Willow turned down the Annie roll. That movie will do really well at the box office. There are actresses who would have done anything for that role and here she is just giving it away. She’ll regret that one day. I guess she’d rather spend her time with the MSFTS crew.
Never could find out why there was any interest in making another “Annie” movie. It has already been done and stands as a classic. Or was Will Smith wanting to make a black version? Please enlighten me.
I’m not sure. I know the new Annie is African American (not sure of her name). I also know Cameron Diaz is playing the “mean old oprhanage owner”.
The role of Annie went to the kid whose name starts with Q and who did so well in that Beasts of the Southern Wild. Much better choice, she should do very well with it. Poor Willow would have been out of her depth and is really too old for it. Look how tall she is!
She said she just wanted to be a kid. Seems quaint now, doesn’t it?
Admit, I did lift an eyebrow but I don’t see the need for outrage. She’s fully clothed, and their poses are in no way suggestive. I’m guessing this guy is a friend of her brother’s who she hangs around all the time.
As for why a 20 yr old would hang around a 13yr old, it doesn’t have to be sexual. Maybe he thinks she’s cool? Or maybe he has the mentality of a 13 yr old himself.
Hey you 🙂
Totally agree with you.
The friend of the brother thing makes so much sense. Also, if that guy is a Sci, too — it would basically be like two church friends hanging out, Scientology Celebrity Centre style.
Don’t worry, that’s just her CO$ handler.
Will also has a son from his first marriage and that son is normal. I credit the fact that the older son was raised by the mom. Jada is flat out crazy and I’m sure Will’s granny is spinning in her grave (he once was asked if he was a Scilooney and he said no and if he did convert, his grandma would flat out spin from her grave).
His kids are screwed up and talentless to boot.
From what I’ve seen, the Smiths have been friends with Moises for a very very long time. Friends that have been around for so long just become family. They have probably been around each other for so long that most likely there is a sense of she is my sister/he is my bother-comfort level there.
So when this child ends up in rehab with addictions – are we supposed to feel any sympathy and ask – “how could this happen?”…
Sounds like lazy parenting to me.
Jada looks a bit like Jenna Dewan.
Holy Walt Whitman Sampler, I don’t get the whole ‘pearl clutching’ pejorative–like it’s some huge travesty to rein in kids to prevent them from going feral. Half of theme it’s just something that self-professed cool people say to condescend to the supposed relics of a more punishing age. I wouldn’t care if this guy attended the girl’s birth, there are still some lines you don’t cross. So I’m a restrictive prude, I suppose– oh no, war, strife, Armageddon. My siblings are significantly older than me, so by default, I’ve spent lots of time with older people, but this wouldn’t have flown (not that I would’ve been at all comfortable with this at 13). Just keep her away from Uncle Terry. Unrelated: I have always lived by the rule that if someone who isn’t your uncle wants you to call him ‘Uncle’, you do not need to be in the same room as that individual.
There is no reason for a 20-year old to be in bed with a 13-year old.
Men who hang out with young teenagers are bad news. Men who GET INTO BED with young teenagers — how can anyone call this harmless? Or blame Willow, saying oh she’s “having sex” too young? If there was sex involved, she didn’t “have sex”, she was raped.
This picture is not okay, and this situation is not okay, and thinking that stuff like this is okay is what leads to so many young girls being raped in our country.
I don’t approve of her laying near a 20yr old friend, but The photo looks non sexual.
He looks creepy, but I don’t get a sex vibe at all.
The problem is for some reason it seems her parents are treating her as if she’s an adult and she’s not, she’s a child. It almost seems like they have just told her that she is an adult . It’s kinda sad, she’s not allowed to just be a kid.
The photo IS bothersome for the simple fact that it’s inferring something sexual has happened. Gawd dayam, her parents need a rocket up them. They consider themselves “hands off” parents. I consider them lazy parents.
Willow is 13, Jaden is 15 or 16.. Children of famous parents.
He is 20 years old and not that well known. This is going to affect him way more than it will them. People may talk about the Smith’s parenting styles and call it BS and all; but again he is going to feel the backlash more. He needs to be smarter.
The pics may be innocent enough; but we are seeing so many inappropriate relationship with adults and minors. Why in the world would he as an adult put himself in the position of being with children; that if something happens the blame will be given to the adult; HIM
Everyone is assuming she and Moises MIGHT be having sex etc etc. How do you know Willow is even straight?? Why are you assuming just because she is in the same room with this young man, fully clothed, he brothers long time friend, they are having sex etc?? Maybe he is gay? Maybe she is gay? etc etc.
Secondly, Hollywood is Hippie Ideals Central and the CO$ takes those ideals to the extreme…..so, no, there is ZERO supervision, zero regulation, no rules and no structure. You can do what you want, when you want it and since you AND your parents are internationally famous you have an unlimited financial ability to do what ever it you want.
Despite all of that she just has never seemed happy to me.
If Moises and his brother (also in the Disney stable) have been friends of the family so long, I doubt there’s anything unseemly going on. It was a group situation with older girls and her brother around, they were just taking pictures for Instagram or twittering or whatever. I doubt any of them looked at it as a sexual thing at all. Moises is just barely 20, his birthday was in late April. He’s grown some since Hannah Montana, where he must have been playing a lot younger than he was if he is almost as old as Miley now. He was the tiny evil genius who skipped several grades, so he ended up in her class. He also tormented her older brother as his tiny boss at a food stand owned by the genius’s rich father.