The Cambridges & Sussexes competing for attention will ‘be the problem moving forward’


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Even though the Duke and Duchess of Sussex are reportedly quite happy in Frogmore Cottage, I can’t help but feel like they really were exiled out of London. Once you get around to the idea that an “exile” was being discussed by royal courtiers and Prince William, is it such a stretch to think that Harry and Meghan were basically pushed into Frogmore Cottage, fully out of Kensington Palace? It’s true that Harry and Meghan are happy in Windsor though – People Magazine did yet another story about how their cottage is very “cute and warm” and “the energy of the space is so much better [than Kensington Palace]. It’s a total fresh start.” Meghan and Harry would have always wanted to go somewhere in the country for Archie’s first months, so Frogmore always made sense as their country abode. But I do wonder if they also wanted a place in central London, but they were “encouraged” to just stick with Frogmore. People always yell at me when I spin all these conspiracies though, so whatever.

We’ve also been hearing a lot about how the Sussexes’ move to Frogmore has done wonders for their relationship with the Cambridges. I’m not sure I buy that completely, but I do buy that it’s probably helped that the couples are no longer sharing an office. Of course, that separation has led to so much angst about how the couples are stepping on each other’s newscycles! We heard about those concerns earlier this week, and of course there’s more:

A royal expert has revealed that ‘tension’ between the royal households could become ‘a problem moving forward’. Camilla Tominey appeared on This Morning and warned that there could be trouble ahead, with William and Kate feeling desperate not to be overshadowed, while Harry and Meghan are keen to remain relevant. The royal expert told presenters Holly and Phil: ‘What you have is a couple not wanting to be overshadowed, and a couple not wanting to be sidelined.’

Camilla Tomliney opened up about the clash on This Morning, saying that social media clashes ‘did cause a bit of tension.’ She added: ‘It seems like, why would you release photographs that [the newspapers] all want to run, it seems like there’s a bit of a clash. I think this is going to be the problem moving forward.’

The two households had previously been rumoured to have been embroiled in a rift, and have now engaged in what seems to be a game of one-upmanship. The Sussex Royal account posted the pictures in the early hours of Sunday morning at around 5am, this is while the Kensington Palace account posted the pictures last night at around 10pm.

Camilla went on: ‘We’ve already had a situation with fears of overshadowing Prince Charles. Charles and Camilla have felt like sandwich generation – overshadowed by Queen, and overshadowed by younger royals beneath them.’

She suggested it wasn’t ‘sinister’, explaining: ‘William and Kate are a future king and queen who want to remain relevant and don’t want to be overshadowed. The Sussex’s have a sprinkling of stardust because of transatlantic nature of their relationship and the glamour of Meghan. But they’re much further down the pecking order. So how do they maintain their relevance? So what you have is a couple not wanting to be overshadowed, and a couple not wanting to be sidelined. It means that they’re both trying to push their message forward.’

[From The Daily Mail]

It seems to be in the air, doesn’t it? The narrative that Harry and Meghan are the glamorous couple and Will and Kate are bothered by that, and they’re bothered by how dowdy and fussy they look in comparison. As I said earlier this week, the whole idea of “the Sussexes and Cambridges competing for attention and headlines” is a good thing though – the Sussexes have FINALLY done something that no one else has been able to do: get William and Kate interested in working more consistently. The Cambridges are clearly watching and learning from Harry and Meghan’s moves, from the way they’re doing social media to the way Kate suddenly started making lots of speeches, even to the way Kate has been wearing trousers. The competition is good. Both couples should continue to try to one-up each other.

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  1. Becks1 says:

    Yeah, if the competition keeps both couples working, then its a good thing. I just hope they actually work, and we don’t just see coverage of one event ad nauseum for weeks on end.

    The social media clashes are stupid though. I don’t get it. And I’m referring to the reactions of the people commenting. It’s instagram or twitter. I can look at a picture the Sussexes posted, and then look at a picture from KP, and its perfectly fine! Seeing the picture from KP does not block out the memory of the Sussex picture, or vice versa. But some of the commenters take it SO seriously. I still cant get over all the negative comments about Harry’s Earth Day pictures overshadowing Louis’ birthday pics.

    • Jadedone says:

      Yeah that’s the thing, let’s see them actually do work. Both Harry and Will
      Were outperformed last year by Charles, Anne, Andrew and Edward. It’s time the younger royals worked harder

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Andrew actually out performed Bill & Harry? I did not know that.

        Anne I knew about because she makes annual visits to all her charities and these visits are planned years in advance so the charities can make plans and take advantage of her Royal visit but I did not know about Andrew. I guess it was be because I never bothered to investigate.

      • Tina says:

        And Sophie, and the Duke of Gloucester (in addition to Charles and the Queen). And Camilla outperformed Harry too and only did one fewer engagement than William. William and Harry are both pretty lazy.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        No wonder the British taxpayers (or at least the commentariat of The Daily Fail) are up-in-arms with torches and pitchforks circling BP & KP and demanding change. LOL! LOL!

      • Becks1 says:

        Yeah I was just looking at their numbers for 2018 because of my comment on another post, and Harry and Will are both embarrassingly low. I think Harry worked 90 days in 2018 and William worked 100 or 110 or something? Meghan and Kate both worked 50. I forget the actual engagement numbers though (Although I remember that Anne was at 455 lol.) They (all four of them) need to work more.

      • BlueOrange says:

        I think that while arguing over who is overshadowing who and fighting for the spotlight, they’re forgetting what they’re there for. It isn’t supposed all about them, it’s supposed to be about the charitable causes they’re raising awareness for. I actually didn’t think William, Harry or Kate particularly cared for fame or the spotlight but since the arrival of Meghan, who doesn’t seem to hide her love of fame, we seem to be learning that they ALL care about it very much. Hopefully if they keep fighting over who can get the most attention, they will all raise more awareness for these causes, even if it is just an after thought for them.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        @BlueOrange,

        “Meghan, who doesn’t seem to hide her love of fame, we seem to be learning that they ALL care about it very much.”

        I think the understanding and acceptance (maybe downright seeking) of fame was one of the reasons that Harry loves and married Meghan. Meghan has been playing this game on a lower level for 10 years+, she is not daunted by it.

        I think Bill & Cathy are just disturbed that the public now wants and EXPECTS more out of them. Hiding out at Anmer Hall and coming to London only for joint BRF appearances on the BP balcony will no longer cut it.

      • Harla says:

        @Becks1 – I just checked Gerts Royals and the 2018 tally for the “Fab Four” is
        William – 213
        Kate – 77
        Harry – 192
        Meghan – 126

      • Wigletwatcher says:

        Becks
        Don’t forget many events for Harry are not counted. Like his invictus stuff is largely not counted. It’s a technique to boost Wills. Just like wills has anything he does counted no matter what. Brothers are valued differently.

      • Becks1 says:

        @Harla – yeah I was looking at days worked, not total engagements. But you can see how harry and Will are pretty close, numbers wise.

      • Himmiefan says:

        I know Meghan was an actress, but is it really fair to say she loves fame? As a duchess, I see her doing great and creative things, but nothing particularly designed to increase her fame.

    • C-Shell says:

      This reminds me of the commercial where one woman is showing to her friends her “wall” where she’s posted pics, post-its and 3×5 cards and one of her friends cries out, “That’s not how this works! That’s not how *any* of this works!”

      How is it possible that these so-called experts are so f*cking ignorant about SM?!

      Rhetorical.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Because they are my generation or older. If you do not have something to promote, I never understood the lure or success of Facebook. As one guy commented on the DataLounge blog, “I like my friends less on Facebook”. LOL! LOL!

    • Casey20 says:

      Hold on: Wil!I am is future King and Kate is the English Rose future Queen Consort not to mention we have been told over and over again the 7th inline isn’t important so why is the 7th inline and his wife held to the same work standard as the Future King and Consort??

      • Enn says:

        Harry is 6th, Archie is 7th. I think you have to be able to hold your own head up to work so the 7th in line gets a pass.

      • Brandy Alexander says:

        Because all of their expenses are paid by the people of the UK, and they should be working for their luxe lifestyle too.

      • Jadedone says:

        @brandy Alexander thank you

      • Tina says:

        Andrew is 8th, Edward is 11th, Anne is 14th, the Duke of Gloucester is 26th, and Camilla and Sophie are nowhere. And they all work harder than Harry.

      • Casey20 says:

        Brandy: No all of their expenses are NOT paid by the British taxpayers, that is a myth and a boldface lie.
        Tina: Harry and Meghan are either important or not. You Brits can’t complain about where they fall in the pecking order than expect them to work equal to the two you deem as most important!

      • Tina says:

        I don’t complain about where they fall in the pecking order. I don’t care. If they live off the Crown Estates, which income belongs to the Crown (which is a complicated concept that boils down to the British state and is NOT the personal income of the Queen), then I care how hard they work. And that applies to the Queen, Anne, Andrew, Edward, Sophie, the Dukes of Gloucester and Kent, and Harry and Meghan. (Also if my tax money pays for their security, which applies to literally all of them). And I would say the same about any state employee, but there are very, very few lazy state employees in the NHS, police or education systems, for example.

      • Becks1 says:

        I think its valid to point out the actual numbers because often those of us on this board who are more pro-Sussex take the view that Harry works harder than William, but that’s not true. (now I would argue that Harry has been smarter than William, and has focused on some key projects like Sentebale and Invictus, that get a lot of coverage, but his numbers are not higher than William’s.) Sometimes its helpful to look at the actual numbers before we complain about work ethic. (I think they all should work more, with the exception of Meghan, just because we haven’t seen what she will do in a full year as a working royal.)

      • BayTampaBay says:

        @Becks1, I would pull Anne out of that “needs to work more” group as I think she is carrying more than her fair share of the work load and always will as long as she is able.

      • Becks1 says:

        @Bay, I’m literally just talking about the Cambridges and Sussexes. Don’t worry, no one is maligning Anne ;-)

      • bonobochick says:

        What are the 2019 numbers so far?

      • Casey20 says:

        Tina: Come on Tina you Brit s barely pay each what’s equivalent to an American dollar for security…so cry me a river! Americans pay way more for Ole Bone Spurs and his lot!!

  2. bros says:

    The only part I definitely believe is charles and camilla being all grumpy cat (RIP) about being overshadowed everywhere.

    • Lorelei says:

      I kind of feel sorry for them, but it’s not personal — people care way more about the young couples and babies/children than they do about a couple in their 70’s. It’s just the way it is. Charles will get more attention when he becomes King, but he will never have the same kind of coverage that Kate & Meghan get.

      Also, lmao at Kaiser’s description of the Cambridges as “dowdy and fussy.” That’s exactly what they are!

      • Originaltessa says:

        And, when Charles was a young man he and Diana and the boys overshadowed his parents. It’s not new.

      • Mrs.Krabapple says:

        And when William’s kids grow to their teens, they will overshadow their parents too. That’s just how it is.

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      Indeed, they have been in Ireland this week and its hasn’t featured at all in the media – its all been about Katie Keen and her garden.

    • VintageS says:

      Prince Charles had more than his fair share of coverage when he was THE bachelor prince of Europe. It was just before social media. I think that was why it was such a shock that Diana ended up stealing the spotlight. As Prince of Wales he and bad boy (ugh)Andrew had had the spotlight. They were the classic duo: the older responsible brother and the younger gay blade.

      Anyone remember Koo Stark?

  3. Shirurusu says:

    Whatever, it’s fun for those of us who like gossip to have more than one royal couple out and about, Charles & Camilla don’t count they are too boring. As long as it’s fair competition and fair reporting, not that racist crap some if the mags do

  4. Rapunzel says:

    Tin foil hat theory: The British Media is trying to make this “competition” into a “problem” because they are upset that Will and Kate are taking cues from Harry and Meg. Behind the scenes, the Cambridges are relying less on press and more on social media for messaging/PR, cause the Sussexes are showing them how well that can work. The press feels threatened and is trying to embarrass the Cambridges into being more traditional by hyping this “feud.”

    • BayTampaBay says:

      Excellent theory! I tip my tinfoil hat to you with a slight neck bob!

    • Vanessa says:

      I agree with this so much I think the royal reporters are the ones trying their hardest to push a narrative of competition between the couples . I’ve been saying this for the beginning the royal reporters are stuck in time I believe that of one the reason that they the royal reporters hate Meghan so much is because she show the royals you don’t need the royal reporters as much the royals were never as active online as much Since Meghan their online presence as been more . As much the royal reporters keep trying their hardest to dismiss Meghan and Harry popularity as for right now is ridiculous and it show how out of touch they are . Meghan and Harry just have the it factor people are just drawn to them Meghan and Harry shouldn’t have to be shirking Violet just because William and Kate have a problem connecting with their people . ITs funny how now the royal reporters and royal watchers are so concerned with Charles and Camilla but they weren’t concerned about them when it was the William and kate show for years . Now that Meghan here all suddenly people remember that Charles and Camilla exist that their the ones next line not William or Kate . Now that their biracial woman in the family suddenly hierarchy so important now but it didn’t matter when it was all about the Cambridge and their kids .

      • BayTampaBay says:

        I really do not think Kate would have a problem connecting with people in public if she was allowed to be her true self and was not afraid of doing something that might offend someone at KP.

    • PlainJane says:

      I love this theory! This British media and Will and Kate and the Middletons have a very incestuous relationship that seems to have worked out well for everyone for decades.

      Meghan and Harry have completely ouplayed all of them, shining a light on the darkest (and by that, I also mean racist) corners of the British media. Everybody has to up their game to stay relevant.

    • Mego says:

      Interesting theory. I wonder how the couples will use social media to control the narrative? Like Meghan did around Archie’s birth. The Cambridges are doing the same thing with the garden roll out. Royal reporters won’t like that at all.

    • himmiefan says:

      Sounds reasonable. I’ve always thought that the reality of these situations is not quite as sensational as has been reported.

      I do think the Sussexes should do more with Charles and Camilla to show their support. I don’t think, though, that they need to worry about being made irrelevant. They’re simply too popular. They just need to keep doing what they’re doing.

  5. 90sgirl says:

    My friend who works in London in PR ,said the word competition is code for Harry and Meghan are getting requested more than Kate and William.

    Thats the issue, but the press won’t come out and just say it.

    • MrsBanjo says:

      Oh that’s a good bit of gossip right there!

    • MissyS. says:

      I agree with your friend. Another issue is that H&M are just more interesting right now. Let’s be honest, which news story would make more money, the Cambridges playing in a garden or exclusive photos of the Sussexes hanging out with the Clooneys or even a full face photo of Archie? I used to work in both journalism and PR, I know which photo would have more value today and it’s not the ones with the future Kings.

    • Eyeroll says:

      Interesting. I never would’ve thought of it that way. But isn’t William (like Harry) all about keeping his life private? Like I thought they’ve both pitched fits when something gets leaked to the press. So would they really be upset about being able to relatively go under the radar? I suppose they want attention, but also don’t want their private laundry wired to the public. It’s a tough life.

    • Mego says:

      What does getting requested mean 90’s girl?

      • Lady D says:

        Dignitaries, politicians, world leaders, and countries are requesting visits from Harry and Meghan as opposed to seeing future heir William with Kate.

      • Fiffy says:

        @Lady D Can you give examples of this?

      • Mary says:

        @Fiffy, after William returned from his trip to China, it was reported that the Chinese government had actually extended an invitation to Harry to go to China and not William. For some reason . . . William went.

        Also, remember when it was announced by the Royal reporters in July of last Summer that Harry would be attending the French Remembrance ceremony (cannot remember which one) but then all of a sudden (about one week later) it was changed to William who was still on vacation and returned early to go to the ceremony.

        I get the feeling that if an engagement is deemed high profile or important, the powers that be (including William) want William to go over Harry, even if it was the latter that was actually invited. I do wonder what the inviting countries think of this!

      • PrincessK says:

        Yes, that is exactly what l have gathered too. In fact Morocco specifically asked for Harry and Meghan. How mortifying it must be for William to know that not only is Harry more popular in the UK, he is also the one foreign dignitaries want to see.

        But why would a foreign country want to pull out all the stops for bland W&K , when you can have the Sussexes oozing with charisma. No wonder courtiers want to bundle them off to ‘darkest Africa ‘. A trip to the US was planned for the Autumn, but that seems to be on the back burner now. When the Sussexes do finally hit the United States, it will be mega!

      • Magdalena says:

        90sgirl and Lady D are correct. It is indeed the case that many countries, ambassadors, foreign dignitaries, etc. and on the local front, councillors and so on, frequently request Harry and Meghan out of the four. But even before Harry was married, he was the first choice of many (out of the three young royals) – sources in the Foreign Office have previously alluded to this fact. Harry does his homework, he shows up prepared and he goes the extra mile. He takes each visit seriously, not as a photo-op. He treats people with respect and gains their respect in return. He engages well with those he meets and treats them with empathy. This is not something which can be faked. He has impressed those who genuinely admired him by marrying someone who shares these qualities and is just as driven by a desire to actually do good, rather than just pay lip service. So as a couple, they are now being requested more as well.

        But it’s not just the Foreign Office: there were stories years ago that charities wanted Harry in particular to be their patron or to be involved in some way with their organisations’ efforts. And there have been rumblings for a good few years now that some have not been entirely happy with their association with his brother and sister-in-law. The charities with which Harry is involved get more than their money’s worth.

        One of the points which stuck in my mind from the Cambridges’ trip to India was a report that in addition to the security people doing their usual advance visit for planning purposes, Kate’s stylist had, incredibly, also travelled to various sites before the trip in order to ensure that Kate’s outfits could be coordinated with the backdrops of each location for photographs, etc. That whole trip was planned with an eye on colour coordination, video and photo ops, i.e., fluff, and there was far less emphasis on substance.

    • Dali says:

      Isn’t it natural that the new couple is more requested and more interesting then the couple we know for almost 2 decades?

      I think everybody at the RF is aware of that and the attention is good for the firm.

      My guess/hope is that Meghan had a few tips for the younger royals how to do better with social media. The British royals are more reserved with that. Meghan is a true gift for this dusted institution and she seems to be much more courageous and that’s thanks to her being an american and therefore very different, which is very good in this case. Everybody benefits.

  6. JAGirl says:

    I said it in your previous post and i’ll say it again, the Cambridge’s are the main ones competing with the Sussex’s and all we need as an example is the Years f their prior behavior and work ethic to prove their changed behavior since Meghan arrived and joined the family.

    Even just their online/Instagram behavior has changed.

    Its jealously against the Sussex’s and its really sad.

    • Sof says:

      I see the same level of competition. Their post on ANZAC day is an example. Can you imagine the comments if the Kensington accout had posted pictures of last year just to show Kate was there? Or William, in this case.

      • JAGirl says:

        Lol! Ok 1 random example compared with numerous instances of the Cambridge’s competitive ways on full display,

        I have never seen Will and Kate this active, ever!! Never seen so much of their kids in such a short time frame either, they are shook and rattled and any argument denying that is not based on facts and all their past behavior and ways prior to Meghan.

        I also think kaiser is right about the reason fro them moving to frogmore cottage. its a shame.

  7. franke says:

    Some times the given explanation is the correct one: they like the relative privacy Windsor affords them and chose it. The fact that Meghan could give birth entirely in private is a good indication that this is a great choice for them. And… it’s really not that far from London.

    • Himmiefan says:

      No, they’re not exiled far, far away at all. If I worked in London, I’d like to live in the Windsor area.

  8. Mere says:

    If Charles wanted more coverage he should have made things work with Diana.

  9. MissyS. says:

    All of the royal accounts have stepped up their game and gained more followers since Sussex Royal started posting. I think there is a bit of competition because no one foresaw Harry and Meghan becoming so famous and developing such a devoted fanbase. That family has always been weird and jealous about attention and status.

    • PrincessK says:

      Penny Junor, Charles biographer predicted months before the marriage that the Sussexes would overshadow the Cambridge’s.

  10. Toot says:

    I don’t think th e Sussexes are competing. They’re just doing their thing, but people are just interested. The Cams used their kids to get interest for Kate’s garden. No way th o deny it with all the pics and video when usually the kids are barely seen.

  11. jen says:

    If one is going to spin conspiracy theories, you have to recognize that is no different than what the daily mail and all the tabloids are doing.

    • Osgirl says:

      Ah but don’t you see? THESE conspiracy theories are pro-Sussex!!

    • Diplomanatee says:

      This is discussion about an article that came out in “the daily mail and all the tabloids”, which is quoted verbatim.

  12. Lila says:

    I like Charles best WITH the Sussexes. He seems so genuinely delighted with his new daughter-in-Law, and it softens him and makes him seem more paternal. Plus he and Meghan have all that environmental stuff in common. I wish they’d hook up and have a string of projects together. Build on cooperation instead of competition.

  13. Casey20 says:

    Harry and Meghan should enjoy their time with Archie…..let’s see if the Cambridg’s can keep the World’s attention!! Let’s see what exciting thing the English Rose does next!

  14. maybesono says:

    The royal job is to show up and take photos. Just schedule each couple for different day of the week. problem solve.

  15. SV says:

    I do think Harry and Meghan’s patience with Kennsington Palace is over after the Africa story was published. They put out statement that they only look to the Queen and Prince Charles for guidance. When Kennsington Palace launched Shout as only a William and Kate project to the British papers Sussex Royal published the photos of Harry and Meghan meeting with Shout in November 2018 before Will met with them. The divide is obvious with William consistently hiring people who worked on Brexit, and Harry and Meghan hiring Sara Latham. William is telling people in Africa to stop having children, while he has a third child. Meghan is doing projects like Together.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      As the dude playing Tony Blair in the movie, “The Queen”, said: Someone needs to save these people from themselves.

  16. PlainJane says:

    IMHO, all of the these people, the Cambridges and Sussexes, have been given enormous privilege. Kate and Wills didn’t want to do anything with it but play coy and avoid work. Harry and Megs are putting their privilege to good use (ex. the Grenfell cookbook, partnering with Oprah).

    I don’t know that the Cambridges or the Sussexes are capable of changing. It may just be that the Sussexes are the more interesting couple with a much larger audience. Ultimately, they may end up being more popular because of who they are and what they do.

    • Mrs.Krabapple says:

      I think some people can “connect” with others, and some people can’t. Kate is an utter failure at that, and William can fake it better than she can, but ultimately there seems to be an inability (or lack of desire) in him to do so. The Sussexes on the other hand, either have the ability to connect or are much, much, better at pretending. Diana had that factor, and it seems to live on in Harry more than William. I’m not sure there is anything William or Kate can do about it — if it’s lacking with them, it will always be lacking.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        The Queen Mum had it too!

      • PlainJane says:

        Mrs. Krabapple, agree! It’s not just the ability to connect to others, it’s the willingness to do so. Some people have it, and some people don’t!

      • kris says:

        I agree. Kate was also allowed to coast so long until Meghan came onto the scene. Now she has to step it up, but she’s ill-equipped and/or not as interested in putting in the work. She’s been in her role, and was dating William for so long, how she continues to get excuses made for her is astounding. She didn’t have a job post college, she could’ve taken a bi-weekly course or something on speaking skills.

  17. Digital Unicorn says:

    I think this ‘competition’ will continue as Meghan strikes me as not being someone who will allow herself to be sidelined or chucked under the bus and I say good for her. I also think this has rubbed off on Harry as he is clearly not going to allow his brother to throw him and his family under the bus to protect his family.

    The RF is full of stuffy old courtiers who should retire already – as I said a few days ago I think some of these issues are down to a culture clash. She a young dynamic woman from a very different background than the frumpy old gits who roam the palace halls.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      @DU, “The RF is full of stuffy old courtiers who should retire already “, so true but then the job just goes to the son or daughter of one of the stuffy old courtiers best friends and the cycle repeats itself.

  18. Lori says:

    A lot of the nastiness against Meghan is generated by Camilla Tominey, so no surprises that she is propagating the competition story. I do think Kate is competitive, as we’ve seen when she’s played sports with William on tour. She plays to win, but I don’t see her as a mean girl. The younger royals stepping up their game is because of Charles turning 70 and all the PR teams figuring out what everyone should be doing in the new reign. If Meghan encourages all of them to use social media better, that’s a positive contribution, one which also sidelines the traditional press.

    • PrincessK says:

      Yes, she is an awful character, and firmly in the Cambridge camp. The anti Meghan media are gradually telling the truth about their campaign against her, its to stop the Sussexes overshadowing the Cambridge’s. This is the woman who had the nerve to say that the level of their rock star popularity is not in keeping with the level of their status within the RF.

  19. Mumbles says:

    I was just about to compare the excitement that the Sussexes generate to the feeling when Fergie emerged on the scene in the mid-80s. She was funny and a breath of fresh air and she and Andrew got on like a house on fire and they were the “It” couple for a year or two until the blacklash came (admittedly the backlash was Fergie getting her toes sucked by a man not her husband, but then again Andrew being so absent from the marriage due to his military job didn’t help).

    But the comparison falls apart because Diana was Diana, and Cathy is no Diana. And I think Meghan is wiser and more serious than Fergie.

    But the fusty older brother and the handsome funny younger brother analogy? Still holds up. (Hopefully Harry won’t devolve to an alleged pervert with shady friends.)

    • Lowrider says:

      And Willy doesn’t become a cheater….👀

    • Tourmaline says:

      Also with Fergie the press had the great storyline of her being best friends with Diana, which they actually were (well, for a while).
      I am old enough to remember when Prince Andrew was seen as a hottie.

  20. Seraphina says:

    One article had a statement that the future king doesn’t want to be over shadowed and Harry and Megs don’t want to be sidelined. And I completely agree.

    What the hell, I’ll get crucified for this comment since I’ve made so many irate: the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. His own father was jealous of his WIFE’s popularity. And so we see it now in Wills towards Harry and Megs. No wonder Kate looks good of spirit. I’m sure Diana is embedded in her mind. I wonder where she keeps Wills’ pacifier at night.

  21. Melissa says:

    I wonder if they are planning to have Harry and Meghan take over Clarence House once Charles and Cam move to Buckingham Palace. W&K spent their first few years with their kids at Anmer before moving to London full time. I wonder if they are preparing for Clarence House to be vacant in a few years for H&M.

    • Tourmaline says:

      I think the difference with W&K needing a London residence is that Anmer is out in Norfolk so relatively far away. With Windsor being relatively close to London it may be that H&M won’t need a London residence?

    • Carolind says:

      Charles will NEVER move out of Clarence House. He has got it the way he wants it and has said anyway he thinks BP should be for work only. Clarence House is too important for Harry now. If Charles did ever move out William would want it.

    • Mya says:

      A few years? Lol, Her Majesty is not going anywhere in a few years. Wasn’t it reported Charles doesn’t want to give up CH? Opening up BP for more touristy days would be better.

  22. Mary says:

    Regarding a residence in London . . . it was reported previously (in the last month or so) that the Sussexes will not be moving into Apt. 1 because Will and Kate decided that they wanted it for hosting events (I wondered at the time if this was another bait and switch, instead of a tiara, an apartment was offered and then the offer reneged). In the last week or so it was reported that H&M will be getting an apartment in Buckingham Palace when the renovation is complete. This makes sense as their office is there. Also, while Windsor is not far from London, most senior royals in the past have had apartments in London as well, including Andrew (whose main home is in Windsor Park). Indeed, for some reason Anne has two apartments, one at BP and one at St. James, where allegedly most of the current London apartments will be moved temporarily from BP.

  23. Carolind says:

    Sick of hearing about the Cambridges and the Sussexes. Much older, more distant royals such as Duke of Kent, Princess Alexandra and the Gloucesters do a lot of work for which they get no credit. Charles works the whole time and was way ahead of his time. Camilla is a good force. Anne does a phenomenal amount. The Wessexes work and I have been surprised recently by what Andrew does. The Queen still works. I want to see their photos, hear what they do. I am sick of the “fab four”. I do think though that at last William COULD be upping his game slightly.

    • Casey20 says:

      Caro!ind know one is interested in the racist! Charles and Camilla have nothing to worry about…the British people have ZERO power over who becomes King or Queen.

      • Mya says:

        Exactly! Charles’ adultrey is going to stop him becoming King and neither will Williams alleged affairs.

  24. Mya says:

    Why did everyone on here get in such a tizzy over the “overwhelming” PR for the Chelsea Flower show? That “overwhelming” PR broke record ticket sales. Tickets were selling for over £500 because of the main attraction – Kate’s garden. The whole point of the Royal family is to fundraise, generate funds and create awareness. That relentless PR for the RHS charity is/was her job. Bitter Betty’s everywhere. Meghan received the same overhyped publicity for the cookbook and it was great as it raised a lot of money too.

    • Tina says:

      The Chelsea Flower show sells out every year. The extra money from tickets resold on the secondary market (which is not supposed to happen in any event) doesn’t go to the RHS.

    • kerwood says:

      And it only took Kate 8 years to accomplish something so substantial. While Megan did it in the first months of her marriage. Megan’s presence HAS gotten Normal Bill and Keen Katie off their lazy, spoiled asses and, if everyone wins, the Royal Family has Megan to thank for it.

    • norah says:

      meghan got the cookbook which became a bestseller within a few months. why did kate take 8 years to wake up and get the garden done?

  25. Mya says:

    Usually, you can still get tickets multiple days before the event, this year they were all sold out. Point still stands.. her garden being the main attraction lead to a whole load of positive publicity. It’s nice the garden will be planted in a secure mental health space to help the disadvantaged and their families/carers.

  26. Sue says:

    The helicopter ride from Windsor to Buckingham Palace is faster than the drive from Kensington Palace to Buckingham Palace. They’re really not exiled.

  27. Marie Anne says:

    Spot on! The Cambridge’s jealousy is excruciatingly pathetic to see! Couldn’t believe it when I saw that Bill & waity struggling to handle H&M getting some recognition. Even having that forget-me not flower days after H&M shared it on their instagram mother’s day post! Their desperation to outdo (copy) the Sussexs after copying their communication & long SM posts+now using their kids to sell waity’s garden is sad!! That times report really exposed Bill’s ”incompetency issues” & the whole world sees their petty paid PR & hit pieces on H&M