Aurora survivors are very concerned about the ‘Joker’ movie, as are we all

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Joker comes out on October 4th, next week. The promotion is really ramping up, and I think the studio (Warner Bros) was surprised that the film got such a good reception at the film festivals in Venice and Toronto. But adjacent to the “is the movie any good?” conversation is the conversation about “will this movie actually inspire violence” and “why does this seem like an incel fantasy?” In 2012, a young man committed a mass shooting in an Aurora, Colorado theater which was showing The Dark Knight Rises. The shooter James Holmes was “inspired” by the Joker. And now Aurora survivors and Aurora police are very worried that Joker will inspire the same kind of violent nutjobs.

Family members of those killed in the July 20, 2012, mass shooting at a screening of The Dark Knight Rises in Aurora, Colorado, have signed a letter to Warner Bros. sharing concerns about the upcoming Joker film and asking the studio to donate to groups that aid victims of gun violence. “We are calling on you to be a part of the growing chorus of corporate leaders who understand that they have a social responsibility to keep us all safe,” reads the letter, a copy of which was shared with The Hollywood Reporter.

Seven years have passed since James Holmes, clad in full body armor and armed with multiple guns including an assault rifle, terrorized the Aurora Cinemark theater, murdering 12 people and injuring 70 during a screening of Christopher Nolan’s Batman film. Now, as Warner Bros. gears up for the Oct. 4 release of Todd Phillips’ R-rated Joker, which is attracting attention for its gritty, realistic violence as well as for its artistry and the performance of star Joaquin Phoenix, some survivors and relatives of the victims are expressing fears about the film.

“I don’t need to see a picture of [Holmes]; I just need to see a Joker promo and I see a picture of the killer,” says Sandy Phillips, whose 24-year-old daughter, Jessica Ghawi, was among the slain.

Sandy Phillips (no relation to the film’s director), who with her husband Lonnie created the nonprofit group Survivors Empowered, worked with Igor Volsky of the gun control advocacy group Guns Down America to craft the letter to Warner Bros., which was signed by five family members of victims and sent Tuesday morning. In an interview, Sandy Phillips says that Joker, which centers on the isolated and mentally ill antihero who becomes Batman’s eventual arch-nemesis, is “like a slap in the face.” She adds that she’s concerned about audiences connecting to and even emulating the film’s protagonist in a cultural climate where mass shootings have become commonplace. “My worry is that one person who may be out there — and who knows if it is just one — who is on the edge, who is wanting to be a mass shooter, may be encouraged by this movie. And that terrifies me,” she says.

One theater that apparently will not be showing Joker: Century Aurora and XD, the remodeled venue where the shooting took place. The theater chain did not respond to a request for comment. But as of Monday night, no showtimes were listed online for Joker at the Aurora multiplex, and a theater employee told THR that advance ticket purchases were not available because the film will not be shown at the venue.

Holmes, convicted of 24 counts of first-degree murder and now serving life in prison with no possibility of parole, will be forever linked to the Batman film. In the days following the massacre, Holmes was compared to the Joker character because he sported bright dyed hair and, according to a now-debunked report at the time, called himself “the Joker” as he was being arrested. Daniel Oates, Aurora’s chief of police at the time, maintains “there is no evidence” Holmes ever said that. Nevertheless, says Oates, “Every time there is a mass shooting or, in the collective media culture, a portrayal of a mass shooting or an evil character who engages in the wanton, random, senseless killing of innocents, we are all traumatized again.” Sandy Phillips expands on that: “For me, it’s the gratuitous violence that this film glorifies and elevates with the Joker character.”

[From THR]

The Hollywood Reporter piece is a lot longer, with more interviews from the survivors and family members of the victims. I appreciate that the Aurora chief of police even said something on the record, and this just has the feel of a slow-motion horror about to happen. And even if something doesn’t happen and no one is “inspired” by the film – and here’s hoping, fingers crossed – then we still need to have a conversation about why people GLORIFY and justify the terroristic acts of white dudes.

Joaquin Phoenix looks very thin for his role in 'Joker'

Photos from ‘Joker’ and Backgrid.

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  1. Lala11_7 says:

    You couldn’t PAY to get me to see it in a movie theater….

    I pretty much don’t WANT to go to a theater now….

    Thanks America….

    • (TheOG)@Jan90067 says:

      You couldn’t pay me to even watch the screener. This is a HARD pass, and right into the trash for me. I am DONE with films glorifying this bullsh%t.

    • Tourmaline says:

      Yep I too actually think of Aurora every.time I go to a movie theater–especially with my kid. Land of the free indeed.

    • whatWHAT? says:

      and the FBI has, apparently, deemed there are credible threats they’ve picked up about a possible mass shooting at a theater showing this movie.

      good job, WB. it was a GREAT idea to have a movie that validates/glorifies the incel mindset.

  2. Lady D says:

    ..but hey, Warner Brothers will get to make money.

  3. Mousy says:

    While I agree with some of the criticism of this movie, I feel like the more articles written about how this will inspire incels to do heinous things will become a self fulfilling prophecy…

    • Anna says:

      That’s exactly my fear. The more weight we ascribe to it before it even comes out, the more someone is going to want to use it to make a big statement.

  4. tealily says:

    I don’t think that the solution to mass shootings is to change the art our culture produces and I think that’s an absurd thing to push off onto filmmakers.

    Gun control. Gun control. Gun control.

    • Maria says:

      Our culture produces violent art that glorifies white men, soooo….

      • tealily says:

        That’s a valid point, but this whole thing just strikes me as a mildly more nuanced “video games make them do it” argument and we need to move on to actual solutions.

        Adding: our culture also produces nonviolent art that doesn’t glorify white men.

      • Maria says:

        Nah. The stuff most studios pour money into is the white male narrative, because it’s a cycle. It’s not all they do, but they’re convinced that’s the only worthy demographic (it’s not in any way shape or form, but there we are).
        They are the status quo, so they make the stuff that influences our culture. You only have to look at how articles are portraying Phoenix as this confused tortured artiste during his interview for walking out.

      • tealily says:

        So are you suggesting that the solution to gun violence is to limit the white male narratives? Because I think you are talking about another symptom of the problem, but not the problem.

    • Boodiba says:

      On the plus side if no one sees is b/c Hollywood keeps making the same movies a billion times, they might be motivated to actually think of new and interesting stories.

  5. OG Cleo says:

    I’m a survivor of a school shooting, so I understand the reservations and also am reticent to see it in a theatre, as I am with all movies now. But I’m personally still looking forward to it and will hold judgment until then.

  6. Mabs A'Mabbin says:

    If a loved one had been in that terrifying ordeal, or I simply lived in that area (or really, any area where some psycho mass shooter relieved himself), I’d probably be saying the same thing.

    I live in a very busy, very large metropolitan area ripe with its share of crime. I was raised on the border of Mexico and grew up with horror stories. And I’ve also loved, most of my life, action, adventure, fantasy, scifi and horror genres. I have raised three boys and married a man who, along with the crazy kids, have always loved comics of every venue. The cosplay, the histories and storylines and fitting everything properly within its universe is just simply a thing. I can’t mix or skew entertainment with current events because not only does it demean the true horror these criminals thrust upon our communities, it gives too much attention to celebrities. Hell, Joaquin sprinted out of an interview for an hour so he could be instructed how to handle.

    Time is being wasted with a focus on artistic expression. If governmental action is required, why have a Hollywood beef? It’s crazy. And if you’re simply pissed about storylines and how it mimics real life, draw some art of your own. If exploring comic villains makes one uncomfortable, don’t indulge or create a response in the form of personal expression of some kind.

    I’d like to hear less and see more. Arguing has become an art form in and of itself. Too much noise. I challenge quiet and forceful action. How can we make a monumental statement without saying a word? Now that would be a gift wrapped in a gift.

  7. Ceecu33 says:

    Won’t be seeing. I feel it’s extremely insensitive to even make this movie

  8. Harrietthesaviour says:

    We do know Holmes wasn’t dressed as the joker right? He actually said it himself and no witnesses heard him shout anything about the joker?

  9. Dbee says:

    Why all this outcry for a movie of all things. All this energy should be directed at politician and lawmakers financed by the IRA.
    Is anyone else outside the USA worried about this movie inciting violence, ?!
    The joker in the comics is not really a clown but a violent maniac why project him differently.
    Priorities outrage for the correct directions.

  10. Chaine says:

    “Gritty realistic violence” is enough for me to know it’s not my kind of movie, even if it isn’t projected to inspire incel copycats. Light and fluffy is the way to go, I’ll be skipping it in favor of Downton Abbey.

  11. Kathryn says:

    The recent wave of blaming movies for portraying or not portraying something…they’re movies. They’re not real. What about violent books, violent video games, violent art, violent music? Policing art (and I will interject here to say I do not watch movies like this, Saw, etc.) is not the issue. Focus on the government and the lack of regulations and gun control. This focal point on Hollywood–a business which has a bottom line to make money and put out films ONLY–is futile. Holding them responsible–or trying to–is noble but a waste of energy.

    • Laur says:

      Have to agree. People in other countries don’t have these concerns about going to the cinema, and we see the same films, so clearly it’s not the films that are to ‘blame’, it’s the gun culture of the USA and blaming films, music, video games etc is an easy cop out. I’m not saying this film isn’t insensitive, I’m sure it is, but it’s a symptom of a bigger problem. Action films made by Hollywood inevitably contain copious amounts of gun violence because guns are perceived as normal. Until that changes, films won’t change.

  12. Meg says:

    One of my favorite TV shows currently is Barry, a show about a hitman that does not have gratuitous violence or glorify it at all and it can be odd to watch because we’re so used to it being glorified with music and editing to make it seem exciting and cool. Its sick how accustomed we’ve become to violence being cool and we don’t realize it, watching that show really pointed that out to me

  13. Abby says:

    I don’t think I will see this in a theater. I was horrified and glued to the tv when Aurora happened. This really looks like glamorizing that kind of terrorism. Love Joaquin, love the batman movies but I don’t think i would see this on the big screen. I would be so afraid–I can’t imagine how survivors must feel.

  14. Marianne says:

    Personally, I am looking forward to this movie. It doesnt mean that Im secretly a psychopath and skin people alive in my spare time. Violent movies/videogames/tv shows etc doesnt turn someone violent or mean someone likes/supports real life violence. If that’s not your thing, cool. That’s your right and you don’t have to watch it. But don’t police other people’s choices on a fictional movie.

    Also, is it possible that someone may walk into a screening and decide to shoot it up? Sure. But theres even a bigger possibilty you’ll get into a car accident tomorrow. You can worry over every little thing.

  15. Namby says:

    This is only in the USA where such a thing might be a threat. This sort of thing happens nowhere else. Movies with rampant violence have been made in the past and no fears have arisen. This is an American problem; no other place would EVER worry about mass theatre shootings. It is a diseased society.

  16. Jay (the Canadian one) says:

    And don’t forget violent video games and Dungeons and Dragons! This fear is misguided. You don’t address teen pregnancy by not talking about it. You don’t address drug addiction by not having drug education in high school health classes. This is a character study. These people exist. The movie isn’t going to make them out of thin air any more than Pride parades turn a person gay. By confronting their existence it can spawn conversations, difficult conversations, that might help understand and address the problem.

  17. Rockies says:

    I work at CU Denver Anschutz Medical Campus in Aurora, CO in the same building that the Aurora shooter studied in, in fact on the same floor as he was often on and the faculty he had issues with / threatened to kill. I never go to the movies (my boss gave me movie passes last Christmas…like really dude?!).