Jan Moir: Duchess Kate was right to feud with Meghan over kids’ tights

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It’s interesting that Tatler’s “Catherine the Great” cover story hasn’t given us MORE headlines. If the Duchess of Sussex had pulled even a fraction of what Duchess Kate tried to pull, it would have been a weeks-long drama. Piers Morgan would have written a half dozen columns about it. Katie Nicholl would have given five exclusive interviews about it. Dan Wootton would have devoted a dozen hit-pieces about it. But after Tatler clapped back about what the Cambridges knew about the piece and everything effectively blew up in Kate’s face, it’s been quiet. Sure, Richard Kay wrote that “rebuttal,” but he didn’t even rebut all that much. I have to wonder if the Sunday papers in the UK will be full of various analysis pieces on the drama. But maybe not.

In the absence of good royal journalism, people like the Daily Mail’s Jan Moir are just focusing on the story Kate actually wanted out there, which is that “Meghan made Kate cry” because “Meghan defied the Queen” by saying that the little children-bridesmaids didn’t have to wear tights on a warm day for Meghan’s wedding. Remember that when the story originally came out, it was simply that “Meghan made Kate cry” and that was what was important to people – Kate’s salty white tears at having to deal in any way with a gauche black American. Now Jan Moir claims that Kate was (you guessed it) quite right to make the tights into such a big f–king deal:

Can it be true that the beautiful wedding of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle, which unfurled before a global TV audience of many millions at home and abroad, took place without anyone realising that a terrible hosiery-based solecism had been committed? Brace yourselves for a shock, but — if high society bible Tatler is to be believed — this is indeed the case.

The six tiny flower girls, including Princess Charlotte, looked lovely in their highwaisted silk dresses with puffed sleeves — but they were not wearing tights. Let me repeat. They frolicked in front of HM The Queen with their bare little leggies on show, which apparently is not acceptable at court.

I know. It was 2018, not 1820, but still. It is now claimed that it is was these tights — or lack thereof — that originally caused the rift between the soon to-be Duchess of Sussex (Californian, let it all hang out, anti-tights) and the Duchess of Cambridge ( Home Counties, stickler, pro-tights protocol). Does it explain the froideur that persists today? It is certainly true that an ocean of misunderstanding opened up between them.

I had no idea if this wardrobe stipulation carried any merit, until a flick back through royal weddings and quasi-royal weddings (Pippa) over the past few decades revealed that in every single one, the little girls in the bridal party are all wearing tights, summer or not. So too all those little pageboys, frequently got up like extras in Mutiny On The Bounty or a toddler production of Les Mis, the poor wee things.

I had to ask my poshest friend Georgina, no stranger to society weddings herself, for clarification. Did she notice the Sussex no-tights tangle? Of course she did.

‘I remember at the time thinking how ghastly the shoes and bare legs were — it looked very Eurotrashy,’ she poshly bellowed down the line. Did it? ‘Oh yah. I mean, leather shoes with no socks or tights? It’s not on, Jan. Appalling. Bare legs are fine on flower girls wearing canvas or satin ballet shoes — but even then possibly not at a royal wedding, where a higher degree of formality is expected.’ One imagines this was a refinement that had escaped Meghan but not Kate.

…Reports say Steely Kate was reduced to tears, but I don’t believe it. She is made of much tougher stuff than 20 denier. It would take a lot more than tightsgate to ladder her composure. Yet even for Kate, weddings are a trial.

[From The Daily Mail]

Basically, Moir is arguing that it’s completely and totally reasonable for Kate and Meghan’s blood feud to be ignited because of children’s tights, but that Kate is entirely too reasonable and Future-Queeny to cry about it. Except that’s the crux of the story, that’s what we’ve been told for the past year and a half: that Meghan is an absolute monster because SHE MADE KATE CRY. That Kate’s precious white tears were the signal that Meghan is an awful person. Now we learn that the whole thing was about a pair of damn tights and Kate cried about THAT? Besides… with all of the shady sh-t that’s in that Tatler article, I can’t believe that the “tights story” is the one getting all the attention. It has to be on purpose.

At least I get to reuse these photos of Poor Kate wearing white to Meghan’s wedding again. Here’s another royal mystery: did Kate wear pantyhose under her white McQueen coatdress at the Sussexes’ wedding? In most photos, it doesn’t look like she did. *cough*

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  1. OriginalLala says:

    Yikes – if these upper crustos get so damn riled up about little girls not wearing tights they must lead very small, very petty little lives.

    • Em says:

      That’s exactly it – they do live small, petty lives.

      I went to school with the daughter of a minor aristo who had lost all the family money, and when she had a few drinks she had some stories! People gossiping for YEARS about the one time someone served tea and the creamer and sugar holder didn’t match the cups. A society lady attempting suicide after she had to re-wear a dress to a party. Apparently she got bullied and frozen out, and couldn’t take it.
      The worst stories were about how all the charity support is just an excuse for a ball or a garden party, and how at most of them people had no idea what the charity was, but they could tell you which designer everyone else wore.

      It all just sounded exhausting and petty, and boring AF.

      • OriginalLala says:

        ugh that sounds like such a waste of energy! Imagine being that petty and vapid – especially when you have so much power to do actual good in your community. Money is wasted on the rich.

      • Mac says:

        Jan Moir is a racist troll. Of course Kate is the perfect angel in her world view.

      • MargaritasForBreakfast says:

        The British national character seems equally as tedious and hilarious as “the ugly American”. They are extremely obsessed with class, station, standing, rank, etc and all the details of that.

      • Dee says:

        Kate has to be terribly shallow to throw her sister-in-law under the bus, just to try to fit in with all these vapid people. We’ve heard the fake posh accent and seen the Diana cosplay. Wouldn’t we all have more respect for Kate if she acted like herself?

      • notasugarhere says:

        Dee, what makes you think this petty, bitchy, steely-eyed, jealous nature isn’t the real Kate?

      • Nic919 says:

        When someone shows you who they are, believe them.

      • AppleTartin says:

        Charity events/balls drive me crazy after all the expenses are paid out from the donations. Not much money goes to the charity itself. It’s just an excuse for rich people to party with a tax write off. It’s the every day people that donate directly to a charity and don’t expect free booze and a firework dancing elephant to entertain them first. That actually do the real help.

    • Bella DuPont says:

      Katren Middleton: Argued against the bride on how bridesmaids should look like at her own wedding. And then cried bitterly when she lost the argument to the bride.

      She must have been confused the whole time whose wedding it was. No wonder she wore white on the wedding day as well. 🤷🏼‍♀️

      • May Tai says:

        Some people seem to be confused about who paid for that wedding and what is expected in return. One expectation is: wear tights.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        @Mat Tai – The government paid for the wedding. If QEII, The Head of State of The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, tells me everyone has to wear tights then wear wear tights they will.

        However, the FFQC is not going to tell me Jack Schitt, let alonne how to conduct my wedding.

      • Jaxonmeh says:

        @May Tai – If it’s your wedding, it’s your call. Otherwise you shut up. You would think these children walked down the aisle in burlap sacks. And even then, still Meghan’s call. It was tights. If it was really a big deal, Charles woulda put his foot down because we all know Unable cried about it to her husband and you know he whined about it too. Y’all are ridiculous.

      • Jaxonmeh says:

        @May Tai – also any thoughts on the travesty that is Prince Andrew? Cuz all this nitpicking is really just to distract from his heinous crimes as well as the lack of work ethic of Will and Kate.

      • Zapp Brannigan says:

        @May Tai

        “Some people seem to be confused about who paid for those flights and trade meetings and what is expected in return. One expectation is: Don’t abuse trafficked teenagers.”

        Fixed it for you.

      • Bella DuPont says:

        Some people go to absolutely ridiculous lengths to be able to criticize Meghan. The Queen doesn’t give as much of a damn about these imaginary protocol rules as her obsessed minions and certain crazed peasants.

        Here’s the Queen, wearing lipstick in public.


        How many of the courtier clowns do you think would have literally dropped dead in horror if this had been Meghan? 🤔

      • Becks1 says:

        If the expectation was that the FGs should wear tights, they would have worn tights. If the Queen cared about it, Meghan would have followed “protocol” or whatever BS term we are using now to describe the imaginary rules Meghan was always breaking. Do people really think that someone (not Kate, someone with actual influence and power over the wedding) said to Meghan, hey its really important to the queen that the girls wear rights and Meghan said I DO WHAT I WANT!!!!!!

        No. That didn’t happen. the girls looked cute and perfectly appropriate for the day.

      • Olenna says:

        @May Tai, stop trolling. One another note, remember this: The Duke and Duchess of Sussex donated the profits from the BBC broadcast of their wedding to Feeding Britain.

      • Ainsley7 says:

        @Becks1- It’s been made very clear that the people who knew the rules weren’t helping Meghan. So, why would she be expected to know about all the little rules like tights must be worn in the presence of the Queen. It’s like the Queen expecting Meghan to wear a hat. No one was helping Meghan with any of it just so they could later run to the press with the gossip.

      • Becks1 says:

        Ainsley I don’t think that was true at the time of the wedding. Every other part of her wedding seemed to adhere to the mysterious rules of protocol, so I’m sure the FGs were fine. That was too big an event for the courtiers to allow a mistake.

      • Abena Asantewaa says:

        Kate was just flexing, showing Meghan, who was boss, and pulllng rank. Apparently, she is quite obsessed with hierachy. I am glad Meghan was confident enough, to treat her suggestion with the contempt, it deserved. Jan Moir has hated Meghan from day one.

        The article was actually what they meant to publish, Tatler, is so out of touch, and entitled, including W & Kate, that they never thought it would backfire. Now we know KP collaborates with the media to smear Meghan in exchange for embiggening of Kate. The cover itself is embarassing. Meghan used Vogue to elevate other women, Kate used her opportunity, to pump herself up. Shame. Is Charles dead, at all? How come W&K and the media are always talking as if, Prince Charles has passed?

      • NatureLover says:

        @Bella DuPont, that should have been the greatest faux pas is that Lazy Katey wore white to a wedding. There should have been outrage by the aristocrats. You never wear white, cream, winter white or anything that can be construed as upstaging the bride by wearing any form of white. That was the major faux pas of a the day, not the bloody tights! But of course Lazy Katey loves to be passive/aggressive and try to upstage Meghan on her wedding day because all should bow down and kiss Katey’s bum or ring. She must be a dreadful and spiteful person to be around as she drags Wil around by his short hairs.

      • A says:

        @My Tai, if that is the expectation, then the person who is actually PAYING for the wedding should be the person called upon to communicate that expectation. In this case, it would be either Charles, or the Queen, or, most likely, Meghan herself. Not Kate, the person who has spent her whole life living off of and spending other peoples’ money.

    • Nita says:

      Commoner Kate thought that she could dictate what her kids and the other ones should wear at someone else’s wedding, because she knew best how to follow royal protocol. Well, for you’ll info: Zara, the born British royal, didn’t let her bridesmaids wear tights at her wedding as well. So this DM Columnist is talking sh*t gain to make her point that un-royally Meghan was not respecting the queen and royal protocol, just to justify Kate’s behaviour (if we consider the tights story to be true at all).

      • A says:

        I know right. “Reviewed every royal and quasi-royal wedding” my ass. The first thought in my head after reading that was, “Well you clearly didn’t review all of them, cuz Zara??” What a f-cking liar lmao.

    • Natters5 says:

      Jan Moir quite conveniently left out that Zara, the Queen’s blood granddaughter did not have her bridesmaids wear tights. But hey! Anything to not make Kate look like the simp she is.

    • AnnaKist says:

      I agree, OriginalLala, but I also suspect that tightsgate is being used as cover for the mean-girling and bullying Meghan was subjected to, and not just from Kate. Does everyone remember how close Harry and Kate were for several years? Until Meghan came along, that is. Suddenly, Harry looked to another woman for support -a woman who is not the quintessential English rose from an ultra-posh family. No, Meghan had the hat-trick (and more) of no-nos for a Royal bride: older than Harry, divorced (horrors!), American (gasp!) and … black. Unforgivable. And to top it off, she has a mind of her own – inexcusable. Of course they’re going to spin this lame yarn about making Kate cry over little girls’ tights. No way do they want the world to see the well-entrenched racism and prejudice they try to keep hidden.

    • They want it both ways – Kate’s too strong to cry, and an issue with children’s tights wasn’t worth crying over… but Meghan is also a monster who made Kate cry, and those tights were a really big deal.

      And that’s a wedding dress. Kate wore a casual-style wedding dress to another womans’ wedding. That there’s any question means her choice of outfit was both petty and inappropriate.

      Why are the British press such ignorant bullies?

    • Sally says:

      I don’t recall it was cathy’s wedding. Meghan had the right to have HER wedding how she wanted. cathy should have kept her nose out of it. js imo

  2. Priscila Bezerra-Fischer says:

    They complain about children not wearing tights in summer- Prince Pedo is right there, right there I say.

    But sure, show your priorities. Yikes!

    To be honest, I am starting to think Catherine’s whole facade of “think of the children!” is just this: a mask. I am not saying she does not love her children- and children are indeed easier to talk to than with adults- but she is laying the groundwork for how her younger children are to be treated. She either fools herself thinking they will always hold her in the same pedestal as now, or that by the time Wills will be King, everything will be different, but the fact is that this couple started to pimp this children to make up for their own shortcomings and thinks it is pretty normal to watch family memebrs being thrown udner abus just so that they can keep their secrets tells me neither Charlotte nor Louis can expect much from their mother.

    • A says:

      Well, she has a demonstrable willingness to accept and propagate social and cultural norms that have only ever hurt her (her eagerness to social climb, her desperation to be accepted by the aristocratic circle in spite of the absolutely horrible way they treat her and her family, her desire to marry and stay with William in spite of the way he behaves towards her), so yeah, for sure she’s not going to bother with trying to change the way things are in order to create a better life for her children that’s free from this garbage.

  3. Restless Bitch Face says:

    I’m mystified by Kate’s end game. Does she want on her headstone “never put a foot wrong”? She has the ability to be an advocate for good, and her biggest concern is being well behaved. I can’t applaud her. I can’t sympathize. So much is going on in the world and her platform is that mommies matter. I can’t with her.

    • Molly says:

      Kate’s cause is Don’t criticize me because I’m perfect and probably better than you. Her second cause is Get that money.

      Mommies do matter but only if that centers Kate and her needs. What has she actually done for mothers?

    • jennplamb says:

      Sadly that is exactly what she wants. Kate has zero desire to make a difference in this world. She wants to status and grandeur, that is all. She is beyond basic.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Kate has spent 10 years putting both feet wrong frequently on the royal job.

    • Emily says:

      Well behaved women rarely make history.

      • Lady D says:

        Do lazy ones?

      • February Pisces says:

        Exactly, strong women make history, women who have broken the mould, changed the game and have always come back fighting no matter what’s thrown at them. I can think of two royal brides that applies to and one it most definitely does not.

      • A says:

        That’s not what that quote means. It means that the women who are often the ones doing the work in the background are the ones who are the most overlooked, who never get the appropriate credit for what they do, which means they go unappreciated by everyone around them.

    • A says:

      Kate’s end game is to be Queen. But to me, the desire to “never-put-a-foot-wrong” is less about achieving that (she’s already done that by marrying William), but more about her own sense of priorities and an interest in protecting herself from criticism by giving off the appearance of competency rather than actually being competent.

  4. Love says:

    The sad thing about this whole feud is that Meg and Kate’s charities are linked in some way and they could have worked together to such great effect. Childhood wellbeing is directly linked to stable home life, and honestly, most homes are held together by women, which is Meghan’s passion project. Meghan’s mission to uplift women has a direct impact on children’s wellbeing and goes directly to answering Catherine’s nature vs. nurture question on her 8 year project.

    If Kate could have foreseen that maybe she would have been more welcoming. Surely Any top CEO would have spotted this opportunity. 😏

  5. Lara says:

    Jan Moir is the ‘journalist’ who blamed boy band member Stephen Gately death in him being gay. She’s trash.

    • NatureLover says:

      @Lara, that is absolutely disgusting. What an utter disgrace to be so vile, though I see that she likes to be vile along with Piers Morgan. I guess that is why W&K are drawn to her since she is so vile and she is happy to spew the lies and leaks that W&K provide her.

  6. Ginnygingin says:

    She flashes people left and right, but sure, she’s upset that kids didn’t wear tights. If the story is true, it’s just plain stupid.

    • LaUnicaAngelina says:

      Yes! It’s like, “Come on, Kate! We’ve seen your undercarriage several times because you didn’t add weights to your hemlines.” At least she had hosiery…

    • Nic919 says:

      Yes where is Jan’s energy when Kate’s skirts were flying in the air at the memorial in India, or when she exposed herself during the New Zealand visit, both occasions being official visits. I’m pretty sure the Queen wasn’t impressed with actual embarrassing incidents by an adult over what a 3 year old wore.

    • Coco says:

      She flashes people as a psychological response to some middle-class bride never making Kate wear tights as a flower girl. She’s trying to spare the next generation!

    • Jaded says:

      Let us not forget the boobs and beej seen around the world. Jan Moir is a racist old biddy way past her best before date.

  7. Becks1 says:

    This reads like total satire. It’s meant to be serious?

    And again, for the cheap seats: Zara’s flower girls did not wear tights!!! The Queen was there and lived to tell the tale!

    Honestly, the more “tightsgate” goes on, the stupider Kate looks.

    • Ali says:

      But no one cares about Zara. She’s not biracial.

    • ArtHistorian says:

      It totally reads like satire – the entire piece makes Kate, the royals and the aristos out to completely absurd people.

      • Genevieve says:

        That’s how I read it as well. It’s ridiculing Kate and all of the posh types.

      • Rebecca says:

        I’m glad there are a couple people thinking the same thing. It read as satire to me, as well, and I was a bit lonely wondering why I can’t read it any other way but as satire.

      • A says:

        Absolutely. That whole bit with their posh friend read like a line from a skit lampooning the whole bunch of them.

    • Summergirl says:

      Just what I thought–it reads like satire. The monarchy is so irrelevant now, and this inane reliance on petty protocol only serves to underline that!

    • Lila says:

      THANK YOU!!! There’s no way this was meant to be read sincerely.

    • Sofia no says:

      I also felt the author was being sarcastic and making fun of the posh “rules.”

      • BayTampaBay says:

        I would buy your hypothesis if I did not believe Jan Moir wishes, with all her might, that she was a member of the BRF.

    • A Guest says:

      I think Jan Moir is being shady in that British “really now” way.

      She’s never missed a chance to bash Meghan but this is a drag on Keen.

      I don’t think the RRs believe the tights story at all. Keen’s pregnancy with Louis is allegedly when Cain began his gardening activities.

      The tabs are losing money left and right and somebody is itching to spill the story. The bottom line trumps all.

      • Britt says:

        Exactly. That rose story is going to come out one way or another. That tatler piece was the beginning of it. That honeymoon they have with the press will be over very soon.

      • Osty says:

        😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀,”garden activities ” 😀😀😀😀😀thank you for laughs

      • Yoyo says:

        No Louis is the result of trespassing in the Rose bush.

      • Bella says:

        Agreed. As well as their general losses, the Meghan money tree is withering, so the Rose bush looks more and more tempting. With careful attention, that bush could keep blooming for years. It’s going to happen.

      • February Pisces says:

        I always said the British media are saving Williams affair for a rainy day. Once they have exhausted all the hatred they can towards harry and Meghan, they will come for William and Kate.

        But I also think that KP think the press should be dancing to their tune, as they are the only ones left (I’m excluding the oldies) now they have banished the main competition.

        Tatler did this and didn’t care about pissing KP off. KP don’t like being put in their place but what are they going to do? KP can cut off access, but William and Kate don’t even sell, so who cares.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Louis is the result of William getting caught partying with pretty blonds on a lads vacation to Verbier in November 2017. Baby #4 would be because of Rose.

      • A says:

        @February Pisces, I don’t think they’ll ever have exhausted their hatred for Harry and Meghan. It’ll continue for as long as it makes them a profit, which is exactly why they have cut off the source by refusing to speak to any major British outlets from here on out. The hatred is less from the press and more because such hatred is a huge cash cow for them.

    • Paula says:

      I think that’s why they put the weird line in “If they wore canvas shoes or ballerinas, it’s kind of okay, but not with leather shoes! Never with leather shoes!!” So then this makes Zara’s okay, but of course Megan did it ALL wrong…

    • Alexandria says:

      Omg I thought I’m the only one? It really sounds like satire but apparently the writer is garbage and anti-Meghan? Could it be that just like all the Trumpian news these days everything sounds like satire now even though they’re not meant to be? That’s the tragic stage we are at now?

      • Beach Dreams says:

        Quite a few of the anti-Meghan RRs are also ambivalent towards the Cambridges at best. Remember that before Meghan, these people were turning on the Cambridges.

    • Amy Too says:

      I took this entire article to be more shade towards Kate. The entire article is mocking how over the top and stupid tights-gate is. The writer even seems to mock her overly posh friend that she called up to see what her overly posh opinion would be. I would not say that this is a pro-Kate article. I wouldn’t really say it’s pro-Meghan, either. It seems to just be one big, over the top, satirical mockery of the whole situation.

    • Tiffany :) says:

      Use of the word “ghastly” to describe children’s legs is really too far. It does sound like satire.

    • The Hench says:

      Jan Moir is definitely taking the p*ss. This is dripping with sarcasm at Kate’s expense. This is attacking her, not supporting her.

  8. truthSF says:

    Between this tight hoopla and Richard Palmer trying to rewrite his past gloating posts, claiming that all the royals had wash their hands of H & M. And that both Will & Charles distancing themselves from H&M, with Will dropping his bro like a ton of hot bricks. Just goes to show us how utterly useless and embarrassing these RR have become. The best thing that H & M have done was getting TF out as soon as they did!!

    And even with all the drone invasion the British media is currently trying to harass them with, H & M ain’t never going back to that hell hole to live!!

    • Britt says:

      The media wants them back there badly. Those tabloids know that the Cambridge’s and other members aren’t going to make them the money they clearly crave, which is they keep stalking and obsessing over Harry and Meghan. Wait until they get their foundation and start working. The irrelevant royals they still obsess over will be all over their timelines and articles.

  9. Britt says:

    William and Kate can’t even make news on their own anymore without Harry and Meghan, or at least make them interesting with mentioning them. The media and Cambridge’s deserve each other because neither are benefiting at all in my opinion. The media is not making the money they want because this glowy, embiggening nonsense is not working or interesting and the Cambridge’s despite all that are still boring. This is going to blowup fast because that media isn’t going to continue that for long despite all access to the kids and their lives. That Tatler piece wasn’t an accident and I fully believe the media will slowly turn against William and Kate.

    • Alexandria says:

      This! Why dafuq can’t they blaze their own trail?! Just admit you can’t. Please just cut ribbons, carry babies and point at things!

    • Nyro says:

      Exactly. Neither the FFK not the FFQC can carry a story on their own. So everything written about them is “Karen/Baldy perfect in every way, Meghan/Harry selfish monsters who want to kill the queen.” It’s stupid and it’s boring. And it’s going to be even worse as HM move on in their lives and become hugely successful. “Well, Meghan may have won yet another award for her little feminist documentary but Kate would never stoop so low as to even walk a Hollywood red carpet! Kate, once again, standing in her quiet dignity as Hollywood Meg continues to spit in the queens face! ” It’s just going to look really really bad and pathetic.

  10. S808 says:

    Kate didn’t even stand by the shit she was crying about cause she didn’t wear tights to the wedding. She made sure to look like a passive aggressive mean girl in that off white dress though.

    • Paula says:

      It’s all because Kate just wanted to match Charlotte. Meghan made Charlotte go without tights and so Kate had to, too! Meghan made Charlotte wear white, so Kate had to, too! How else could the poor woman have theme dressed?! Even George and William matched in their outfits, so she absolutely had to match with Charlotte.

      • Mignionette says:

        Are you being ridiculous, no other mothers matched the flower girls. They all wore jewel tones which Karen Cambridge actaully looks better in.

        If you look at the offical snaps the theme of the wedding was spring green which other members of the wedding party worked around. Kate is the only one who flouted that.

        The intent of the white was to draw column inches pure and simple. She acted dis-respectfully throughout the ceremony by laughing at the music and preachers.

      • GuestWho says:

        I think Paula is being sarcastic…

      • Becks1 says:

        Paula is absolutely joking lol.

  11. Harper says:

    I see. It’s the leather shoes where Meghan went wrong. Canvas or satin ballet shoes are okay for bare legs. Or even a pair of beige high-heeled pumps (see Kate’s shoes above). I hope they have therapy readily available for Charlotte when she realizes how Meghan humiliated her with the wrong combo shoes/tights and then tried to kill her off with the bouquet flowers. Thankfully, the little girl made it out of the chapel with her life.

    On a more curious note, where is Kate this week? Did she cancel her scheduled Zoom calls to tend to her exhaustion?

    • Love says:


    • Priscila Bezerra-Fischer says:

      She is forcing her children´s nanny to do her hair!

    • Bella DuPont says:


      She is CEO-ing over a fresh set of 5 questions, due out in 2028.

      • Andrew’s Nemesis says:

        @Bella Dupont Well, the poor thing has to locate another APA 101 textbook she can steal – I mean, adapt – the questions from… Part II of the Survey for Dummies could be more than a decade away!

    • Nita says:

      Having the vacation she needed, since she was exhausted.

    • grumpy says:

      Satin ballet slippers would be nice and don’t need breaking in whereas I guess ‘hard’ shoes can give you blisters and be quite uncomfortable when you first wear them unless you have ankle socks or tights.

      • Jane's Wasted Talent says:

        This is very true, but it doesn’t seem to be the case here. People would have noticed that something was wrong in the children’s walk and in their behavior- they are too young to be stoic.

    • Lowrider says:

      Lol. Articles like the above show you just how ridiculous the monarchy really is.

      Imagine having your reputation destroyed over panty hose. High school juvenile behavior.

  12. Loretta says:

    Yikes, with every PR article Kate gets worse and worse

    • Britt says:

      It’s absolutely cringe. I almost feel sorry for these supposed reporters that have to write this nonsense. Sometimes I wonder if they actually believe the words they write.

    • Yuzu says:

      I can’t imagine how this is supposed to help them. I know their supporters will bend over backwards to get behind this new angle, but really, how many Brexits and MAGAts are concerned over wearing young girls wearing itchy tights on a hot day? Most support a soft p*rn star in the White House as the First Lady, so I really don’t get the mental gymnastics it takes to ALSO show outrage at this.

      At some point, they have to understand…the royals and aristos don’t like you either.

      • Elizabeth says:

        “ soft p*rn star ” — oh I would criticize Melania for so much politically but doing an artsy sexy lesbian photo shoot one time is … not it.

        As for the Republicans and all these Gilead wannabes, they have a long history of the purest hypocrisy possible on sex.

  13. Calibration says:

    Omg! Why and how does Kate have all these embiggening stories. It’s getting worse not better. They really need to pull back and rethink everything. They are so out of their league in terms of social media and media in general

  14. Seraphina says:

    I read that article last night and rolled my eyes. Let’s not forget Catherine the Great has flashed us her thighs and ass while on “duty” for the Queen and country. But they forget about that. What about protocol then?
    And the article in Tatler was super weird. On one hand they complimented her and then insult her. My favorite was: there is nothing to like about her or dislike. I like how they phrased that 🤣
    And the more I think that TQ’s beloved granddaughter slapped her in the face by having her flower girls go tightless, the more I smell a cover up.

    • Yuzu says:

      I’m hoping the DM does a “Greatest Hits” article of Kate flashing the public. That would really tell us that the tides are turning and the tabloids want their ROI.

  15. Sofia says:

    I doubt Kate genuinely cares about tradition or protocol of whatever. This was probably just her trying to throw her weight around (“I’m married to the heir and you’re not” type thing) and establish herself as “Queen Bee”.

    Kate should have just said “I’ve been here for 7 years so if you ever want some advice or whatever, I’m here for you.” That way it’s up to Meghan to take up Kate’s offer and Kate comes off as a “good person” for offering Meghan some help instead of coming in and telling her what to do.

    But tights. *grumbles* Like another person said, they were better blaming the whole “Meghan made Kate cry” on Kate being post-partum and Meghan being super stressed so things got heated and snappy.

    • MsIam says:

      Kate definitely cares about tradition and protocol. She and her family having been faking their way in the aristo world for twenty years. Even longer then that for her mom. So along comes California girl Meghan, easy breezy no tights, doing her thing. Not to mention how confident and polished Meghan was. And everyone says what a breath of fresh air and how modern! I think from that point on Kate and Carole made it their life’s mission to “otherize” Meghan and make Kate the standard of royal white womanhood everywhere. So I think protocol was Kate’s weapon of choice against Meghan. Unfortunately for Kate, Meg’s moved on to where all that sh*t doesn’t matter any more and Kate’s stuck in the U.K. wearing her tights and putting up with William. That’s why she feels trapped and exhausted.

  16. morrigan01 says:

    Look, this can’t be for real, right? Like, are there really people like this Jan person really ready to ride or die over hating Meghan because she didn’t take Kate’s “advice” on little girls wearing tights? THIS is a hill they want to die on?

    Lord this is the Karenest thing in a month that has seen PEAK Karening. Again, racism makes people *really stupid.*

    • Ali says:

      Tights will be the hill they die on.

    • bettyrose says:

      It’s Obama’s tan suit all over again. Just because no rational person could possibly see the point, this issue must live on in perpetuity, lest we forget who the outsiders are.

      • morrigan01 says:

        OMG, you’re right! It IS the Tan Suit all over again.

        If anything, I guess we can trust people trying to “other” a black person – particularly a black-biracial in both these cases – to be consistent in its absurdity and stupidity.

  17. ArtHistorian says:

    I have to say that the style in which this article is written makes this whole incident and Kate look absolutely ridiculous, even the idea that such a minor issue is protocol is made out to look ridiculous. I know that the writer directly says that Meghan was in the wrong but the style of the article totally reads as satire.

    Just look at this quote: “Let me repeat. They frolicked in front of HM The Queen with their bare little leggies on show, which apparently is not acceptable at court.” – or the one about the friedn “poshly bellowing” and pontificating that kiddie’s bare legs are acceptable with satin or canvas shoes but not with leather shoes.

    I actually had a good laugh at the article because it absolutely reads that these people are utterly absurd over such a minor thing.

    • Becks1 says:

      It reads like she was told “write an article defending Kate” and she rolled her eyes and wrote this – like maybe she thinks the FGs should have worn tights but she still cant believe she has to write a whole article about it.

      • Seraphina says:

        Becks, it infuriates me that journalists are told they need to cover up fact with fiction and do so. Reminds me of my college professor who told us when he was interning in Boston, JFK would come with women and no one raised a stink. They all had a “gentleman’s agreement”. I can’t wait for the media to get tired of coverups for the BRF.

    • Harla says:

      I actually thought this article was fairly shady towards Kate and the whole tights protocol, especially her description of Pippa’s wedding.

      • ArtHistorian says:

        It is shady towards the whole aristocratic class, royalty included. Just look at the quote about the little boys in copies of military uniforms:

        “So too all those little pageboys, frequently got up like extras in Mutiny On The Bounty or a toddler production of Les Mis, the poor wee things.”

        She’s basically saying that the “protocol” for children’s attire in the wedding party at royal nuptials is utterly absurd. It IS ridiculous to dress up little boys in military uniforms. They are children, not soldiers!

        She’s poking fun at Kate, at the aristocracy and the royals themselves.

  18. Molly says:

    These are the rules and Meghan knew what she was getting into but thought her opinion mattered more. Just follow the rules Meghan and stop making trouble! Look at Kate who is obedient and thoughtful and trustworthy. She believes in upholding tradition and being respectful. She will be an amazing FFQ.

    But the children at Zara’s wedding didn’t wear tights.
    ::Hands over ears:: Lalalala. I can’t hear you! Meghan sucks and Harry is incompetent and needs to come back and support his family!

    • Ali says:

      @MOLLY did you forget to post this on the daily mail?

      • GuestWho says:

        I think Molly is simply juxtaposing the responses people give re Meghan and all the other royals.

        Really need a sarcasm font.

    • Lady D says:

      Molly, I read the word trustworthy and the first thing I thought was, I wouldn’t turn my back on Kate. Thanks for the laugh.

  19. Anna says:

    EVERYTHING else aside, I *do* think it looks stupid and too informal for the kids to not be wearing tights. It’s a royal wedding, ffs. Shrug.

    • MsIam says:

      If nothing had been said would you even have noticed? In the two years since the wedding I’ve heard about Meghan’s dress, Kate’s dress, the choice of music, Rev. Curry, the tacky behavior of the other royals vs. Doria’s quiet dignity. But not one word about the little girls tights. Imagine that?

      • Ginger says:

        Exactly Msiam. We even had an article on how the bouquet of flowers Charlotte was carrying could have killed her (if she ate them) but not a peep on tights. They covered everything else but not a word on tights.

      • Andrew’s Nemesis says:

        @Ginger But when Kate included lily of the valley in HER wedding, she was gushed over as someone who ‘knew the language of flowers’…

      • Becks1 says:

        I honestly couldn’t remember, and when I heard that was why Kate cried (at first just heard “it was over tights”) I had to go check M’s wedding to see if they had worn tights or not.

        The girls looked cute. full stop.

    • Lizzie says:

      does it look informal or spring appropriate? Kate saved the day and distracted us by wearing an inappropriate off white coat and no one noticed until she pointed it out.

    • Jaxonmeh says:

      @Anna I don’t care if the kids wore burlap sacks, but I do think it’s stupid and tacky this is still looked at as an “issue.” But then it’s not an actual issue. It’s a racist dog whistle occasionally trotted out to remind the public that Meghan does not know her place or ever will. Keep embracing and falling for it.

    • Bella says:

      Oh, please. It was May and those flower girls were pre-school age. I wasn’t even *allowed* to wear tights until I was 12 because my mum thought they were “too grownup”! (Woolly tights in winter excepted, obviously.)

  20. Bella DuPont says:

    What is the name of the greatest, most accomplished Future-Future-Queen to ever exist?
    A) Karen Middleton
    B) Katren Middleton
    C) Catherine the Great,
    D) Katren the CEO,
    E) Catherine the Tights Cryer

  21. Becklu says:

    Why do people believe this? Kate was a few weeks postpartum and Meghan was planning a massive wedding they were emotional and Kate probably cried at everything and Meghan probably was crazy stressed.

    I honestly never understood why people have clung to this and made it more then it was. And are using it to create some massive narrative.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      @Becklu – I do not think that anyone actually believes this “tights” story. I do not believe it. I think Karen Kensington cried due to an incident with Meghan but it was not due to an argument over “tights”.

      We are basically making fun of Jan Moir and asking why any journalist, respectful or not, would write such a ridiculous story with everything else that is going on in the world.

      I am not a journalist but I would never have accepted an assignment to write a story as unimportant and worthless as this one unless someone backed-up an 18-wheel tractor-trailer truck full of money to my garage and proceeded to unload it.

      • Andrew’s Nemesis says:

        @BayTampaBay A nice backhander from Carole, perhaps?
        Just IMAGINE the wall-to-wall fury in Middleton Manor right now. Carole’s been outed as the worst kind of Mrs-Bennet-social-climbing-snob. Her family’s dirty laundry has been aired across the land and adorns the coffee tables of the people to whom she sucks up. Pippa has been roundly trounced as another social climber who is additionally lost and directionless. Uncle Gary’s drug exploits have been exhumed. The FFQ and FFQM have been made absolutely ridiculous. Poor Michael (well, actually, I don’t know how ‘poor’ he is: rushing off to the College of Arms to have the family crest done is frightfully déclassé) is being given hell. Carole’s lizard-brain is on ‘deflect! Deflect!’ mode.
        Shame she couldn’t have pointed Jan Moir at Andrew.

    • Sofia says:

      Nobody even noticed the kids not wearing tights (well very few people did). Nobody even thought they argued about bloody tights. It’s only being brought up because Tatler have brought it up. And it was not the Sussexes who brought it up.

      Hence why it’s being discussed.

    • Becks1 says:

      Actually, most of us initially dismissed the tears story for the reasons you mentioned – Kate had just had a baby, M was super stressed, etc. It’s being brought up again now because of Tatler and because it was a very specific story in that article that has NOT been refuted by any of the usual sources, like the story about Kate being so overwhelmed was.

    • Yuzu says:

      I believe that Kate was being unreasonable and still wants to feel right so she keeps floating these weird stories about what happened to throw Meghan under the bus. If she didn’t want us to believe it, she should have stomped this story out over a year ago. Instead, she basks in the PR glow of being a poor white future queen who was berated by a gauche B-list actress who wasn’t even a duchess yet! How horrid!

  22. MsDiMeanOur says:

    How does Pippa get to be a quasi royal? 🤣🤣

    • truthSF says:

      The way they threw that Pippa “quasi royal” thing in there, I… 😂😂😂🤣

    • Harper says:

      Kate is hanging on to Wills to get to the throne in order to give her family titles. Pippa will be the future Duchess of Proper Tights.

    • MsIam says:

      Interesting. More Pippa/Middleton “above their station” shade. Looks like the knives are out for Kate. First Richard Kay and now this Jan person. What’s coming next?

      • ArtHistorian says:

        It was only a matter of time before things would turn back to pre-Meghan status where Kate wasn’t constantly embiggened but frequently the subject of shady barbs in the press.

        There only so much you can harp on the Sussexes when they’ve been laying low for quite a while – and the Tatler article just opened the door to a new/old target. The press wants its pound of royal flesh and there’s no new Sussex news.

      • Britt says:

        I think the media are over kissing the Cambridge’s behind. They’re losing a lot of money and since they chased the actual money makers away and they’re left with these bores. They’re going to get those clicks one way or another.

      • Harla says:

        @ArtHistorian, I think the Cambridges truly, and foolishly, believed that the British tabloid press would continue the embiggening articles until the end of time. imho, the Cambridges thought that H&M would forever be their whipping posts, they certainly didn’t anticipate Meghan And Harry leaving. And since the tabloid press found out that they can harass and abuse a senior member of the royal family without consequence, it’s going to become a free for all.

        I think I’ll pop another bowl of popcorn, grab my wine and sit back and watch the show! It’s gonna be good!

      • Becks1 says:

        Yeah, the British press needs to keep selling newspapers and magazines and there’s not a whole lot to say about the Sussexes right now, even though they ARE staying in a home owned by a wealthy black American – the papers have kind of used up all the mileage they could out of that.

        Stories about how perfect Kate is frankly aren’t that interesting, so the press will do what they have to do to sell papers.

      • ArtHistorian says:

        Drama always sell better than nauseating fawning.

      • L4frimaire says:

        I can’t remember the exact outlet, maybe Daily Beast, saying the the Sussexes were the goose that laid the golden eggs for the tabloids and royal press. Think it was during all those crazy tabloid stories coming out by the hour when Meghan went on maternity leave, and Piers Morgan was at full froth over baby showers and Frogmore costs. Anyway, they killed that goose by driving them out of the country and their stepping down, so there’s that.

  23. TheOriginalMia says:

    Tights? All of this about a child wearing tights at a wedding. These bougie, uptight people are up in arms about tights. The phrase “get a life” comes to mind.

    Kate should have kept her mouth closed about another woman’s wedding. I’m sure every aspect of that wedding was run by QE and if she didn’t have a problem with it, who cares if FFQ Kate did. This was a power move that fell flat. Kate comes off looking like a petty, hypocritical ass. PR genius Carole should have leaned into postpartum hormones causing the outburst and not tried to make Meghan seem like a bridezilla.

    • Linda says:

      Yeah. I’m not a major royal watcher but between this article and the Tatler one, I cant believe the headline is Kate and Meghan fell out over tights. That’s it. And now Kate and William are mad that the Sussexes left the family but they couldn’t get along with them. And she feels overworked because they left. I was like ????? This makes no sense and is so extremely petty and weird. There are people in my family I do not speak to much but it’s major stuff that is too much to get into. But tights?

  24. Bethany Karger says:

    If it was too warm for the girls to wear tights, why was Kate in one of her long sleeved coat dresses, buttoned/zipped up to the neck?

    • BayTampaBay says:

      EXCELLENT QUESTION! It is not like the churches have central air conditioning and the tempature is set to “freeze” like in the USA.

    • GuestWho says:

      Maybe she stayed cool by not wearing any hosiery (with leather shoes).

    • Jane's Wasted Talent says:

      Many people’s resting body temperature lowers when they are underweight.

  25. McMom says:

    The wearing or not wearing of tights is the kind of thing I could get worked up over – and then I would realize it had absolutely nothing to do with tights and it was time to get back into therapy.

  26. Ginger says:

    I think Kate and other British tabloids are pissed the tights story didn’t cause the outrage they were hoping for. A lot of people were agreeing with Meghan and thought Kate was an a hole for trying to dictate the wedding. The more they try and justify Kate’s actions the worse she looks. We all know Kate doesn’t care one bit on protocol.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      ” We all know Kate doesn’t care one bit on protocol.”

      I believe there was an incident, tears were shed and egos hurt but it had nothing to do with flower girls wearing tights.

      • Ginger says:

        I will always believe that Kate didn’t want Harry to get married. She probably cried due to that and hid behind it being about tights.

      • Alexandria says:

        Kate and William were happy to string Harry along and his happiness was an afterthought. They expected his spouse to be a doormat even if he married. It takes a strong woman to marry Harry and be subjected to these insidious manipulations. Meghan was always respectful but she won’t be a doormat. There is a difference.

        I will never forget the interview with the 4 of them. I have never formed an impression of Meghan before it. When she spoke, I was so impressed.

        She did not expect her royal journey to be easy, but she thought it would be fair. She is so insightful. Sorry not sorry. Yes she is richer than me. She is more privileged than me. But she has earned my admiration.

      • MsIam says:

        I remember skimming through People mag while I the grocery line when Harry and Cressida were a thing. There were all these stories about how “She’s the one” and “any day a ring”. But they also said that Kate was upset about it because Cressida’s half- sister used to date Will. Anyway, it seems that Kate has a history of being a buttinski in Harry’s business. I often wonder if that’s why Harry married someone totally not connected to anything royal or aristocratic. I wonder if Kate tried to “Carole” Harry in her own way?

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Cressida’s half-sister is Isabella Calthorpe Branson who along with Jecca Craig are the “two that got away” from Normal Bill Kevin Kensington Cambridge.

        I am not surprised Cathy disliked Cressida as this is Karen Kensington’s MO to the max.

      • GuestWho says:

        @MsIam – there is a fantastic article written a short while after will and won’t got married detailing how she was trying to control Harry’s life and how she was told she would have to back the f off. She was, apparently, going through lists of eligible woman who would be perfect for Harry. The aristos were appalled at this, and Harry was really rankled by it. It’s one of the reasons why he had to make a public statement that there wasn’t anything between he and Pippa. My recollection is that she wanted to make Pippa one of her ladies in waiting (I can’t believe that ‘s still a thing) so she would be in proximity to Harry more often. Palace was NOT having it.

        She truly thought it was her right to choose a woman for her BIL – I’m sure she wasn’t choosing intelligent, outspoken hard working women to stand by his side.

        It also went into some detail about how Will ended up incandescent with rage over her blatant flirting with Harry at public events – not because he was concerned about the flirting, but that it was super obvious and embarrassing to everyone (including Harry who reportedly started avoiding her when he could). They went on to say that she was doing it because she wanted to make him feel included, but Wills point was Harry didn’t need Kate to make him feel included, he is a prince of the realm and she was behaving above her level- so, again, back the f off.

        She’s a control freak – like her mother – but she’s not as good at it.

      • Ginger says:

        I read that article as well. It was so revealing on how obsessed Kate is with Harry. Someone on twitter posted a video of Harry, Kate and Will and how Kate is in between the brothers but her whole body is turned toward Harry and away from Will. She is sitting so close to Harry that it looks uncomfortable. Harry is even leaning away from her. She needs boundaries.

      • Nic919 says:

        Maybe the crying related to the gardening activities being discovered. Didn’t they say that it started when she was pregnant with Louis?

      • Dilettante says:

        Crocodile tears

    • Alexandria says:

      @GuestWho, wouldn’t be surprised if that were true. And I’m sure she would try to match Harry with someone less prettier than her. FFQC must not be upstaged and FFK must not be distracted by a beautiful sister in law.

  27. Bonnie says:

    That article is sarcastic and satirical – definitely *not* to be taken seriously. If anything, it sides with Megan against Kate and the Royal Family for their impractical, antiquated etiquette. Maybe the tone is too subtle for the average American sense of humour?

    • Harla says:

      I thought it was rather shady too Bonnie. Her description of the outfits of the flower girls and page boys at Pippa’s wedding was pretty epic.

    • Cerys says:

      Yes, I think it is a satirical piece too. It does Kate no favours and makes her look rather ridiculous for getting worked up about Royal tights protocol.

    • lana86 says:


    • KL says:

      Why do Americans insist that the English spout nothing but high-IQ witticisms? Jan Moir is just this ridiculous, lacking in self-awareness and hopelessly obsequious. Such people do exist and are given platforms, even in Britain; unless you want to argue Danny Baker was somehow “throwing shade” at the RF as well when he compared baby Archie to a monkey. British people can be racist, classist idiots as well, and so wrapped up in their own stupidity they have no idea how bad they’re making themselves (or those they try to defend) look.

  28. aquarius64 says:

    Jan Moir just made this worse. This is now a 4 day story. The Cambridges are so weak they can’t stand up to the pink press and tell the flying monkeys to lay off.
    Not a good look for a future head of state and his consort.

    • Mignionette says:

      i think that is why the journos are running with it, along with the Courtiers who blatantly used the Tatler piece to put Karen Cambridge ‘back in her box’ after project ‘triangulation and gas lighting of Meghan’ was over, the journos are also trying to remind team Cambride that ‘never complain and never explain’ mantra is their freind .

      The press have always relied on the BRF not responding to their articles to sell their made up articles. If Karen starts responding to every unfavoubale article, it takes that artistic licence away from them. This way they can take the piss out of Karen for a bit and also put her back in her box and go back to writing shit.

    • Nic919 says:

      Going to put my tin foil hat on and say that it would benefit Charles the longer the Cambridges are humiliated by these stories in the tabloids.

  29. Lanie says:

    I’m not taking tips on tights and etiquette from people that can’t be bothered to clean up their homes full of dog fur .

  30. Mtec says:

    Of course they had to make sure to list all the different types of shoes one’s allowed to wear tights-less without offending the queen, except leather. 🙄Don’t be fooled, this was precisely written and included so that people can excuse Zara from doing the same at her own wedding and excuse Karen The Great for also not wearing any at Meghan’s

    • GuestWho says:

      But karen’s shoes were leather!

      It’s all just so transparent. Gotta believe it is satire at thsi point.

  31. thaisajs says:

    Interesting that none of these courtiers or royal watchers were pearl-clutching at the shocking lack of tights on some preschoolers two years ago during the wedding. I don’t recall anyone even noticing? But now it’s some devastating breach of protocol?

    FWIW, have these folks ever tried to get tights on a little girl? It’s no fun and if you try, be prepared for a day of complaints and wedgie picking.

    • StartupSpouse says:

      And whining and whimpering because they itch.

    • MsIam says:

      And God help you if there is any netting under the dress that is scratchy. Yikes!

      • thaisajs says:

        Right? I tried white tights with my six year old under her Easter dress and it was an epic disaster. She changed into leggings as soon as we got home from church.

  32. Andrew’s Nemesis says:

    That clang you just heard? My jaw dropping heavily on the table. Those protracted crashing sounds? My forehead repeatedly hitting the desk…
    Jan Moir is pretty loathed in the UK and loathsome, but this absolute and utter farce of an article not only takes the piss but extracts the urethra. Any reasonable journalist would have condensed the piece down to ‘Kate: Not Your Fucking Wedding’. But white entitlement must rule, right? Doesn’t matter if it’s Meghan’s wedding because she’s biracial and must be educated on proper form by White English Woman and must not disagree or gainsay White English Woman or her reasonable request over TIGHTS, FFS, will be weaponised against her and used forever more in the gutter press to explain why White English Woman is better.
    The subtext of this article is horrific.

    I’m sorry I’m a bit sweary today, but this has really got my goat.

    • L4frimaire says:

      Yeah this whole tights thing is so weird. It was 2 years ago. Why are they still so butt hurt about it? Side note, when I look at society/ upper class wedding photos in ,say Tatler, Town and country, or NY Times wedding section, American weddings and British weddings look really different, from the attendants, to the bridal gowns, to the cake. Obviously there are not many royal weddings, but definitely different. Just saying.

    • Jane's Wasted Talent says:

      No, this comment is fire, please keep it coming.

    • Bella says:

      @Andrews Nemesis

  33. Jean says:

    We have to remember that before Megan’s wedding, Kate had given birth. That makes her very emotional. An acquaintance told me that a few months after her pregnancy was the worst time of her life. She was so emotional during that period which was out of character for her. She said that if her husband had looked at her the wrong way, she would cry. For that reason and others, she did not want anymore children. Kate no doubt experienced the same thing and used the experience against Meghan. Which is grossly wrong especially since Kate is attempting to deal with pregnancy and children issues…(vague understanding of her causes as I don’t care.)

    • February Pisces says:

      I definitely agree with everything your saying about her being overly emotional etc. But the fact she’s bringing this up 2 years later just to villainize Meghan and victimise herself just shows her true character.

    • L4frimaire says:

      What I wonder is if Meghan’s other friends were at this same fitting, because if they were, THAT would make an interesting story. Can you imagine the looks exchanged among the women if this was happening with others around?

      • Ginger says:

        I really hope they were and Omid talked to them about this for the book.

        They may have and that is why it is being talked about. I want to hear the friends version.

    • Tessa says:

      Kate has no excuses, she was not post partum when she participated in the shameless PR with William on that commercial flight, the little children running after them after they left the plane and her holding Louis and struggling with Luggage. Right during the time the DM targeted Harry about private jets, complete with a map of the routes of the plane. as if the Cambridges never flew on private jets. Then her horrible expressions.

  34. Jean says:


  35. Trillian says:

    Do those people even realize how ridiculous and stuck up they sound?

    • KL says:

      They do. But here’s the thing: they’re proud of it. Not all cultures are obsessed with being “just folks.” Britain once tried to conquer the world because they believed they were ENTITLED to it. There is a portion of that society which revels in their elevation above the hoi polloi. And they never have to deal with elections in order to exert their political and social capital — so why should they hide that pride from the unwashed masses?

      • morrigan01 says:

        It’s just more and more abundantly clear that there was an epic culture clash going on when Meghan entered that world (along with the racism and xenophobia). I can just imagine her, at various points in time, looking around and thinking “are these people for f**king real?” At least, as a born and bread native California girl just like Meghan is, I know I would have been.

  36. Krystina says:

    The “she poshly bellowed down the line” bit has me in tears from laughing so hard, lol

  37. yinyang says:

    Oh god, they need to let this go, why keep bringing up old fueds to make someone look bad, the BM is so childish. And besides, it’s Kate’s fault, if you’re honoured to be a part of the wedding you be discreet and keep things moving, it’s not your day to start drama how absolute trash is that Kate!!

  38. Vera says:

    It’s Jan Moir, the daily Hate’s outrage for hire. Caring about what she thinks is the same as agreeing with katie Hopkins

  39. lily says:

    The comment about wearing leather flats without socks being common and eurotrash is funny considering in Charlotte’s 4th birthday pictures, she’s wearing trainers with the shoelaces taken out and without socks.

    • TeamAwesome says:

      Oh, but those are canvas, darling, so perfectly fine.
      British artistos and Southern Ladies have SO much in common, except here they are at least nice to your face.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        What would happen if Meghan would wear white shoes after Labor Day or patent leather shoes after 5:00 pm????

      • Jaded says:

        @BayTampaBay – well she’d just have to be murdered then.

  40. February Pisces says:

    Never has the ‘sure Jan’ meme been more apt.

    Also children’s tights are not like women’s tights, they are thick and knitted and would not suit a light weight summery bridesmaids dress. Not that it even matters, cos kate has no damn right telling someone what to do for their own wedding.

    The fact kate is actually pictured there with no tights on herself has to be the biggest hypocrisy. How many times has she flashed cos she doesn’t even bother to put weights in her hems. Not only does she forgo tights, it looks like she forgets her underwear too.

  41. Emmitt says:

    Zara’s bridesmaids did not wear tights and Keen Katie wouldn’t have dared tried to tell Zara about protocol.

    The nitty gritty is that Kate tried to bully Meghan at Meghan’s own wedding, Meghan shut her down and I would bet HARRY also shut Kate down. Kate exaggerated her distress, probably told William, William went to Harry to shut Meghan down, Harry shut William down and it was on from there.

    That’s why Kate gave Meghan that nasty look at CW Day, it was a “B***h you finally gone, goodbye!” look.

  42. line says:

    Charlotte was not the only flowergirl. There were other Flower Girls, so if the other mothers didn’t agree with the outfits their kids were going to wear. I’m sure Meghan would have asked Givenchy to make changes or make additional pieces to childrens’ outfits (like thinner tights or socks for warmth). But in this story Kate having seems to be the only mother having a problem with the girls’ outfits of flowers.

    So my opinion is that Kate tries to play the queens of the bees but it is facing a wall on the part of other mothers but also on the part of the royal family because this story of tights is clearly stupid. The flower girls’ dresses were long enough so that the girls did not need to put on tights. In addition, the wedding day was an exceptionally hot day, knowing that royal weddings last a long time and that all childrens was very young aged. Making this kids put on tights would have resulted in even more restless children who trying to scrape off their tights.And when that she did not obtain those which she wanted, Kate have decide to played the act aggressive passive, by choosing to wear a white coat, and by having an unpleasant face throughout the ceremony of the marriage.Then there is another thing that I noticed is that Kate does not let Charlotte and George interact with the other children and the other women also do the same with Kate.

    • MsIam says:

      My guess is that the other moms said no tights too. It was hot and the girls were already wearing those poufy dresses. And you can’t have one girl wearing tights and not the others. So Meghan probably said “ ok, no tights” and Kate chose to die on Protocol Hill over it. Instead of going with the flow. Plus if she was already bent out of shape and intimidated by Meghan this probably sent her over the edge. Kate sounds like she needs to grow up and realize she’s not mummy’s little girl who has to have everything her way. But this makes me think that’s where all of the “Meghan’s breaking protocol” stories came from. The Rota used to always say that Kate resented “Meghan always breaking the rules” while SHE, Kate has to “dutifully toe the line”.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        “die on Protocol Hill”

        When her time comes, will she be buried on “Protocol Hill” wearing a McQueen coat dress with six rows of buttons?

      • Harla says:

        @BayTampaBay, omg, I’m dying here!!! you are too witty!!

  43. lizardqueen says:

    Imagine giving a shit about tights when your whole ass royal family is protecting a pedophile rapist. Priorities I guess….

  44. Candikat says:

    Haven’t yet read the comments so sorry if this is a retread but … this article is pure satire and deftly placed shade. “The horror! The horror! You probably didn’t even notice!” “I have to ask my posh friend about dumb rules nobody else has ever heard of.” “My posh friend clarified that tights-less canvas shoes would have been OK” (that’s a JOKE!) Oh, and the jab at Kate being of the “Home Counties” is about as close as you can get in Brit-Speak to full-on calling her “basic.” This was a defense of Meghan. The tide has turned.

    • Mignionette says:

      That is also what I got. The home counties ref in this article and Buckinghamshire ref in the Tatler articles are basicaly aristo code for Karen the commoner is a basic b*tch.

      I am guessing that post Sussex-it that the Cambs took their foot off the pedal in feeding the media tidbits…. problem is the cottage industry built around smearing Meghan became a huge beast and in the midst of a pandemic, it too needs feeding…

      I am guessing the journos have spoken to the Courtiers and they have green-lighted Kate/Carole and Pippa takedown articles but do not touch the Prince.

      Any minute now I expect to see the phrase “doors to manual” make a return to the Daily Heil.

    • KL says:

      Are you at all acquainted with the collected travesties of Jan Moir articles?

      It’s not shade. She’s just like this.

      • Lush says:

        Jan Moir is a nasty woman. The above article is not satire or shade.

      • Candikat says:

        Oh, I don’t doubt that JM is awful, after all she writes for the DM! And after reading the entire article and not just the excerpt above, I retract my contention that she’s defending Meghan, she’s clearly not. But she seems to have received the message that ‘Kate the pretender’ vs. ‘Aristos who are kinda ridiculous too’ is the new narrative to push. Frankly, it’s a good editorial decision to entrance the masses in these times, I’ll give the DM some credit there.

        It tickles me that the only clearly Kate-embiggening part is almost a direct quote from R Kay’s article, and we all know how that landed! (I’m referring to the “tights are neater/tights = respect for the queen” tidbit.) No doubt the DM readers will eat it up, but it’s also written for the sharper-eyed amongst us, and it’s hilarious! I could take a nap in all the shade.

      • KL says:


        Poking fun at ridiculously posh people is possible without actually undermining the extensive class system which influences so much of English life and politics. Moir is not clever or “shady,” she’s an actual idiot, who triumphs idiotic — read racist, homophobic, and misogynistic — causes. This article in particular posits Kate as being ABOVE the silliness, made of “tougher stuff” but also suffering through the stress of weddings just like normal people!! Meanwhile Meghan insulted the queen and made a Cambridge child, the darlings of the nation but ESPECIALLY of Daily Mail readers, look like “Eurotrash.” It’s not subtle. It’s just gross.

  45. L4frimaire says:

    This Jan Moir is sour curdled milk. This is dumb. Kate seems more upset about tights than the impact of the Coronavirus on people. Continuous focus on this makes Kate look petty,controlling,shallow and crazy town. So Kate will put her foot down about the rightness of tights at her sister-in-laws wedding, but seems to lose her moral compass when it comes to trash talking and leaking to the viper press about the same SIL?! Kate herself is not wearing tights. In other shots, it looks like she keeps well away from Meghan’s mom friends whose daughters were also in the wedding. Has anyone asked them if they were upset about tights, because the kids seemed fine and they continue to grow. Kate should have had a few extra ginger cocktails at the wedding ( you know her bitter self had one glass of Champagne then stuck with Pellegrino), then maybe she would have had more fun and wouldn’t remember obsessing about tights and trying to control the bride. What is wrong with these people? Jessica Mulroney has a show called “ I do, redo”. Maybe Kate should call her up. The wedding was 2 years ago and the couple have moved away! Does she not understand the concept of go along to get along?

  46. June says:

    Happy to hear that lots of you do realise that this was a full on satirical piece. I know some of the non-satire pieces might often read as satire to us normal folk, because we can’t quite believe that people with their type of thinking actually exist, but…this one is clear.

    • KL says:

      Was Jan Moir also being satirical when she decided to contradict the coroner’s report on Stephen Gatley’s death, opine that it was not from natural causes and instead had to be the result of his sexuality and same-sex partnership?

      It’s THE DAILY MAIL, people. They actually will publish whatever pushes papers, and a good portion of their readership feels these things in complete earnest.

      • FicklePickle says:

        I’m kind of thinking that this was written to be all things to all camps. It can be interpreted as either pro-Kate (in the ‘Yes it’s silly but it’s TRADITION!’ sense) or anti-Kate (in the ‘this commoner is so eager to be More Royal Than The Royals that she will argue to the point of TEARS over TIGHTS on TODDLERS for SOMEBODY ELSE’S WEDDING’ sense), and the pro- and anti- Sussex camps as well as Camp Aristo and Camp BP tend to key off of the Kate-stance in pieces.

        Which, really, as a gossip piece makes it perfect. EVERYBODY is going to argue about this for quite some time, it’s easy fodder for other columnists to respond to, which themselves are likely to make easy fodder for more responses…honestly, that Tatler cover for Kate that inspired this might just be the perfect boon for the tabloids right now. Plenty of bicker material.

  47. Cee says:

    She’s not wearing tights. And now we know why she chose to wear that very CREAMY ALMOST WHITE coat dress to the wedding. She was trying to be all petty. Too bad Meghan most likely did not give a fuck about what Kate was wearing.

  48. Watson says:

    America is literally burning, there’s a worldwide pandemic, and they are still bringing up how meg made kate cry? Over tights??!? Man, what a hill to die on. 🤦🏻‍♀️

  49. Mads says:

    I don’t know why, but sometimes I will comment on some of these articles to try and bring some balance and honesty to the utter crap that is written about Meghan. I added a comment on Jan Moir’s hit piece saying that she should have asked the Queen’s grandaughter as her bridesmaids did not wear tights. The unhinged brigade responded to any comments where Zara’s wedding is mentioned along these lines “Yes, but the bridesmaids wore soft ballet shoes then and not hard leather shoes; I wouldn’t want my child to get a blister from hard shoes so I would complain too”!! These people are deranged. Meghan could find the cure for cancer and she would still be subjected to vitriol.

    • MsIam says:

      If somebody’s kid got a blister from this we would have heard all about it, complete with pictures. Especially if that somebody was a princess.

  50. Marianne says:

    If the tights thing was a big deal and was breaking royal protocol then something would have been done. Since it was not, F’s obviously were not given.

  51. jennplamb says:

    Still mystified that Kate picked an outfit that was as close to white as possible. Can you imagine if Meghan showed up to a wedding in pale yellow/almost white? She wore a loose navy dress to that one york girl’s wedding and the royal watchers went nuts.

  52. Ennie says:

    Kate dutifully toeing the protocol line, Kate the protocol defender, Kate the one who would not let little kids show their legs in bridesmaids dresses.
    I can’t imagine the scolding she got To finally learn to weight the hemline of all her dresses after multiple times showing the world her buttcheeks and babymaker in a thong and bare legs while doing official, very important official duties and representing the queen.
    And not on her first two years of being FFQC.

    Ridiculous to put her as a beacon of modesty and protocol correctness. If she is a sucha strong convert for protocol is because she sometime somewhere was really finally drilled on that showing your butt during queening hours is not ok.

    Then, maybe she is always secretly hungry- hangry Due to having to wanting to keep her weight down to the minimum acceptable.

  53. Fascinator says:

    I just want to point out a detail from the Tatler article that seems to have been missed. Previously, it was reported that this scuffle took place during the fitting but the Tattler article clarifies that this happened at the rehearsal. The date of the rehearsal was May 17. Remember that Tom Markle’s heart attack supposedly took place on the 15th. So Kate is saying that SHE was upset and in tears when at the time Meghan believed her father was on his death bed and she could not reach him. My god! What utter selfishness from Kate. You would think she would have been comforting Meghan instead of taking the opportunity to, as her own friends say “put her in her place”.

    • Mary says:

      Very good point @fascinator and this may have well happened at the rehearsal but I also believe that something did happen at the fitting as well. Word was that Kate complained about the fit of the dresses (too close fitting) as being inappropriate. I believe this because photos from the wedding show that the other girls’ dresses were better tailored. In comparison, Charlotte’s dress looks downright sloppy. I think Kate bitched about a lot of things to Meghan and invoked “protocol” at every turn. All while, as you indicated, Meghan was under an enormous amount of stress. Mean Girl x 1000

  54. Liz version 700 says:

    Karen and Kevin Cambridge need to seriously hire new people folks. I am on the east coast of the US and I can almost hear the laughing from LA try this last well deserved week 🙂

  55. Lowrider says:

    The brf need to bring in Beatrice and Eugenie to do royal work and act as a foil for the narcissistic Cambridge’s. Will and Kate’s egos cannot take criticism. The Cambridge’s seem to have a need to stand on someone’s back to make themselves feel tall. Since Harry found his balls and self respect the Cambridge’s need to use someone else.

    • Ennie says:

      I don’t Think Charles wants that

      • Mia says:

        Besides Fergie will find away to get some cash from the York girls working as working royals. She’ll get caught, cry and apologize meanwhile looking for her next cash scheme

    • Jaded says:

      Andrew’s daughters are now permanently tarnished, and it’s about to get worse. The more they stay out of the spotlight the better.

      • Liz version 700 says:

        Yep if I was Andrew’s daughters I would be Using Zulu and finding a nice house to vacation too. Maybe for a year. No parents/moochers allowed. I hear Canada is nice!

  56. Ames says:

    “The British Monarchy: Faithfully Turning Molehills of Clueless Entitlement Into Mountains of Dumbassery For A Thousand Years.”

    England’s media machine might as well have burned a cross in Frogmore’s front yard, and His Rapeyness Andrew, Duke of Not My Hand isn’t even investigated, let alone punished, for his myriad crimes.

    But yeah. LITTLE GIRLS’ BARE LEGS are the “appalling” affront to all that is wholesome and good in this world.


    • LaraW” says:

      I’m sincerely curious- why DOESN’T the press focus more on Andrew? Surely they could find a way convert the stories of his crimes to profit. The media in the US does it all the time- doesn’t it also happen in the UK with politicians? I would certainly read the shit out of it, even if it came from the Mail. Actually, ESPECIALLY if it came from the Mail.

  57. notasugarhere says:

    Are the new popups and scripts on the site annoying anyone else?

    • LaraW” says:

      Yes, but if that’s what CB needs to stay up and running, I will gladly keep them.

      • notasugarhere says:

        If that is the case. I was wondering if it was my system and browser version, or if everyone is experiencing the same problems with the new popups and ads.

  58. Jay says:

    Late to the party on this one, truly enjoying all of your takes! I’m willing to believe that emotions ran high on both sides (i.e. tears over an ostensibly small thing in order to vent about every hurt and anxiety you might be feeling) but only one of the women involved keeps this story going, you know? There is a lot of resentment there to keep reopening this particular wound.
    I almost wonder if the attempt to focus attention on this one, seemingly trivial issue is a way to diminish everything that appeared in that Tatler article. Like, the hope is that people will forget all of the unrefuted swipes at Kate and her family and just think “oh, the one with crying over tights!” Sort of a way to diminish everything in the story by trivializing it.

    • LaraW” says:

      I am actually hoping that KP keeps digging itself into a hole by trying to refute each part discussed in Tatler. My fervent dream is that Tights will be Part I of XVIII in the Great Deflation.

  59. Awkward symphony says:

    As usual the spiteful jan is wel spiteful. She attacks Meghan and praises saint kate for nothing! The whole thing is pathetic. I predict that they’ll turn on the keenbridges soon. We might even see them use the fact that Karen wore white to somebody else’s wedding as a “revenge” plot for not getting her way with the bridesmaids incident🤷‍♀️

  60. MJM says:

    I never noticed their bare legs until tightsgate honest to God. Much ado about nothing. Love the pics above of the comfortable and not itchy legged Charlotte.

  61. Emily says:

    Kate is to royal she knows the importance about tights, so she cried about tights but is to royal to cry about tights?

    Honestly, if all of this – the millions of stories, hit pieces and chasing family out of the country – is about tights then Kate and William need to get a life.

  62. kumar says:

    They both can patch up and can live happy family

  63. A says:

    Is it just me, or did that article and the whole quote from the author’s “poshest friend” read like thinly veiled sarcasm to me? Like, the whole thing reeks of what some people might create as a caricature of a posh person’s ridiculous sensibilities, if that makes any sense (not that people need sarcasm or caricatures, there’s plenty that exists that should be made fun of to begin with).

    Also, posh people don’t “bellow down the line” ffs.

  64. Pardi says:

    Just coming here to say that I think Pippa had by far the best flower girl outfits. The dresses were pretty, detailed and beautifully tailored. And yes, the girls wore tights, but not thick ones.

    • ennie says:

      it is a matter of taste. Of course Pippa would try to make everything “perfect”, whereas Meghan was going for a simple look for the children that was more of a match to her wedding dress which was quite understated, too.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Pippa’s were a knockoff of Kate’s, which were in turn a simpler copy of what Diana had. Pippa added the bad neck ruffle back in, from Diana’s, but in a smaller version.

    • L4frimaire says:

      Noticed that the dresses on Meghan’s girls were below knee so this fuss over tights is ridiculous. Pippa’s girls wore shorter dresses. Anyway, Brides choice. Seriously, this was 2 years ago. Kate is a mess if this is what’s keeping her up at night.

      • RoyalBlue says:

        and if she is still harboring ill feelings over this simple disagreement 2 years later, it shows she is just as petty as betty.

      • Olenna says:

        Well, now KP is claiming the argument was about the length of the hem. I mean, WTF?

      • ArtHistorian says:


        Is KP making statements about the hemlines of toddlers’ dresses at a wedding that took place a couple of years ago? They really do continue to make themselves look ridiculous.

        There’s was total silence from them on the “mean Meghan makes Kate cry” but now that a version of the story makes Kate look really bad, they are out there arguing hemlines? These people are thin-skinned idiots.

      • Olenna says:

        Agree, they look absolutely ridiculous, and dumb. QM Carole must have had a conniption for them to go legal over some rehashed gossip about her and her darling children. It’s not like GB and the US don’t have enough serious political and social issues making headlines daily (well, hourly for the US) that this story wouldn’t have died a quick, natural death.

      • ArtHistorian says:

        KP is really doing their utmost to keep this silly story alive.

  65. Jumpingthesnark says:

    This Jan Moir person and all the toffs who agree with her……. clearly they think of children as puppets who exist to be used as pawns by adults in their dreary adult micro “dramas”. Thinking of children as persons who are deserving of consideration/comfort/what are reasonable developmental expectations, seems anathema to them. They are awful!!!!

  66. Mai Ann Lee says:

    The taxpayer allows Prince Charles to draw some money out of the taxpayer-owned Duchy of Cornwall. So the taxpayer pays for the upkeep of Prince Charles and his children and their families.
    So the taxpayer aka Prince Charles paid for Meghan’s and Harry’s wedding. And they married as Royals. Therefore they should stick to Royal protocol and that means that the ladies wear tights. Little ladies, too. If Meghan wants her flower girls to go without tights she can pay for her wedding herself and marry as a private person.
    Who pays, tells.
    Royals have a very luxurious life paid for by the taxpayer so they should stick to the rules.

    • Nic919 says:

      There are no rules about wearing tights at church. Stop the bullshit. Even Kate herself didn’t wear hosiery to that wedding.

    • Olenna says:

      Trolling under a new name, May Tai? If you’re going to come here this “protocol” BS, please come with the receipts (i.e. references). Otherwise, you look dumb repeating these made-up mugxit talking points and faux taxpayer outcries.

    • L4frimaire says:

      @Mai, Why don’t you go buy Katee a pair of tights if you’re so bothered by it. Mail it for KP. Charge it to the taxpayers while you’re at it, and cc Meghan. That’ll show ‘em.

  67. Well-Wisher says:

    But was it really about wearing tights? I recalled that at a previous royal wedding where the bride asked about protocols and were told that there was none, just good manners. Yet the idea of them existing persists,

    Simply put this is a disagreement where non-existent protocols were used as an explanation.
    Instead of good manners – the stand-in for non-existent protocols were ignored and Kate overstepped the conventional boundaries in regards to bridal etiquette in an effort to outrank Meghan.
    This also will explain why at the next appearance after the wedding, there was an uproar about the inappropriate colour of Meghan’s rights. At the time I thought it was jealousy based on how well she seemed to fit in.But then she wore the same colour at the Commonwealth Day Service to ……”crickets”.

    I guess this was also a factor.

    PS (The aforementioned wedding was Kate and William).