Prince William & Kate ‘could not be more discreet,’ they’re ‘surrounded by goodness’

Britain's Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge (L) and Britain's Prince William, Duke of Cambridge talk to members of the media about their newborn nephew, as they arrive to launch the King's Cup Regatta, at the Cutty Sark in Greenwich, south east London on May 7, 2019. - The event is set to take place on August 9, 2019, on the Isle of Wight, and is set to see The Duke and Duchess go head to head as skippers of individual sailing boats, in an eight boat regatta race. Each boat taking part will represent one of eight charities and the winning team will be awarded the historic trophy The King's Cup.

After orchestrating one of the most obvious, vile, stupid, lazy, dimwitted and half-assed smear campaigns I’ve ever seen, the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge will now have us believe that they had zero to do with any of it. Nevermind that the “Meghan is a bully” campaign came right out of Kensington Palace. Nevermind that William and Kate have been desperate to copy the Sussexes and then vilify the Sussexes for existing. Nevermind that William and Kate are extraordinarily stupid and lazy, too stupid and lazy to even attempt to cover their tracks on the smear campaign. After all that, Will and Kate are honestly trying to pull the “who me, I was just sitting here, being perfect and minding my own business.” GMAFB.

Prince William and wife Kate Middleton are “surrounded by goodness” — and don’t want to get involved in the “soap opera” surrounding Prince Harry and Meghan Markle, close family sources tell Page Six. The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge are dreading the uncomfortable attention that is about to hit the royal family thanks to his brother and sister-in-law’s decision to sit down for a tell-all interview with Oprah Winfrey, which is scheduled to air Sunday.

“William and Catherine could not be more discreet, they don’t want to get involved in this public bitch fest, but I am sure that William is desperately sad about all this,” one royal source told Page Six. “Even when Harry spoke about the fallout with William, there was no briefing from them. And by saying nothing, that is the smartest move.”

William and Kate, who have been in pandemic lockdown at their Norfolk home with their children, George, Charlotte and Louis, make it a point to listen to the advisers around them, while “it appears that Meghan and Harry are listening to no one,” the source said.

“They don’t wish to elevate this soap opera — it’s honestly like watching Elizabeth Hurley in ‘The Royals,’” the source added. “William and Catherine are surrounded by goodness, they have the Middletons, Carole and Mike, Pippa and her husband, James, and James Middleton and his fiancée, Alizee. They’re such a grounded, happy family.”

[From Page Six]

This is genuinely nauseating. “Even when Harry spoke about the fallout with William, there was no briefing from them.” William’s people literally briefed people that William was incandescent with rage, and that William had put my arm around my brother all our lives and I can’t do that anymore…I’m sad about that.” Then there are all of the dipsh-t orchestrated leaks to Richard Kay, and authorizing Jason Knauf to wage this completely bizarro-world campaign against Meghan. But, you know, “no briefing.” That’s telling for a different reason too – with all of the bullsh-t that Meghan and Harry had to put up with (and not ALL of it came from the Cambridges), William and Kate never lifted a finger to defend Harry and Meghan or take their side whatsoever. As for Will and Kate being surrounded by family… yeah, Kate’s family. Did Carole write this?

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  1. Jessie says:

    Nope. Gaslighting won’t work this time.

    • Elizabeth Regina says:

      The gaslighter in chief and his mannequin are in serious trouble and they know it. Once the dust settles on the Sussexes the Middletons will be next in line for the press. That statement could be the worst bit of PR I’ve ever seen as it will comeback to bite them all.

    • My Two Cents says:

      I can’t wait for Sunday!

    • Quietly Kitten says:

      Is Andrew ‘discreet’ and is he ‘surrounded by goodness’ instead of answering FBI questions, as he promised he would in 2019?

      Because it’s 2021 and he still has money, land, titles, possessions, protection and his freedom while they gaslight the crap out of H&M for escaping this nightmare the BRF and BM manufactured to distract from it.

      Yes, that is the bottom line here and this is how history will remember it.

  2. LolaB says:

    These are really great photos, Kaiser.

    • L84Tea says:

      The one with hands. He’s trying to show us how big his…teeth are.

    • LahdidahBaby says:

      YES, LolaB, this photo selection by Kaiser is brilliant!–especially the one of Will’s face all askance with sarcastic bafflement while Kate speaks. He just cannot hide his disdain for her, now that she’s done her job (Heir and a spare) and he no longer has to pretend.

    • Merricat says:

      They look like they agreed on which expressions to use beforehand, especially the last couple of photos, which I would call Limbaughesque.

  3. Silver Charm says:

    They didn’t just shoot themselves in the foot, they shot themselves in the face.

  4. Belli says:

    If they’re surrounded by all this goodness when are they going to start embodying some of it?

    • BearcatLawyer says:

      EXACTLY. These two embody laziness perfectly. Goodness? Not so much. We all remember last year’s Commonwealth Day service.

    • lucky says:

      right? goodness finds a way to protect and stand up for/stand with your family EVEN if you don’t particularly like them. I have members of my family that make me crazy but they are still good people and I would NEVER let some else harm them. I cannot fathom watching my siblings suffer. The selfishness that seems to be the birthright of the heir is so damaging to everyone (including the heir). Duty before family is one thing, but isn’t the ‘duty’ to set an example for the world and protect the people?

    • Jay says:


  5. Levans says:

    Sure, Carole. We believe you…..not!

    That woman works hard to elevate her family, but Kris Jenner does it better lol. This has Middleton finger prints all over it.

    • ArtHistorian says:

      Yep – “the Cambridges are surrounded by the goodness of the Middleton family” – lmao, we see you Carole. This is honestly so unsubtle!

      • Jay says:

        It even helpfully reminds us of Kate’s siblings spouse/fiancee names! This is like if my auntie made a lengthy birthday post about me on Facebook, so embarrassing!

      • notasugarhere says:

        Carole may be trying to monetize James’s wedding, as they did with Pip’s. Every article mentioned Meghan (will she attend, won’t she attend) which upped how much of a discount/freebies the Midds got.

    • Mac says:

      Be on bump watch. They are for sure going to have another baby when they realize this won’t blow over.

      • Andrew’s Nemesis says:

        @Mac Good point. And I’m sure that PWT will continue to tell African families that they should stop at two children without even a hint of irony.

    • Sunday says:

      L O L – this delusional woman really thinks she’s going to get setup with her own little court. That’s what this is supposed to be, a gentle reminder that the middletons aren’t difficult like that other duchess or dullards like the supposed heir to the throne, THEY are the EMBODIMENT of goodness and wouldn’t it be nice if we had more of that instead of all this other mess that we definitely did not play a direct role in orchestrating?

      • Harper says:

        This is exactly Carole spelling out the New Middleton Court. “Don’t worry Kate-baby, we’re all here for you, unlike the Windsors. When you get kicked to the curb by William we’ll make you the Queen of St. Barths. And just to let everyone know ahead of time, here is a list of the people who will surround and protect you. We now have terribly moderately wealthy folk in our family, so if anyone thinks they can mess with you AND still be welcome in St. Barths they have another thing coming.”

    • Amy Too says:

      Super obvious. The article even says they talked to “close family sources” to get this quote. And then each and every Middleton family member is mentioned by name. Amateur hour!! Stop, you’re embarrassing yourselves!

    • Tiffany says:

      I just cannot believe Carole is putting in all this work for a dude that openly cheated and mistreated her daughter throughout a 20 year relationship.

      • anotherlily says:

        They all dance to William’s tune. The Middletons are like his staff and do nothing without his agreement. He’s the bully in the royal family. Carole cancelled her magazine promotion interview because “She always gets William’s go-ahead before any interview like this” according to the Sun and other press reports.

    • Lemons says:

      The aristocrats must be rolling around laughing after reading this. Carole, girl, this is desperate.

    • Exactly! All I got is that Carole Middleton must have PAGE SIX on speed dial, because she sure got this story out fast after the “it wasn’t me, but Kate, and Charles, and Camilla” leak by William yesterday.

    • Nina says:

      Typical middle-class British speak. Unfortunately for Carole, she hasn’t completely picked on the way the aristos treat issues like this. She is way in over her head and PwT and his lackeys are going to let her swing in the wind. After all, that is what their subjects are for, cover for when they eff up.

  6. Kalana says:

    The Middletons and the Cambridges are using the Flybe playbook on this and think they’re winning. They are so pathetically out of their depth that it’s shocking. “Surrounded by goodness”? Never leak to the press?

    This story is not going away because there’s too much money to be made from this.

    The “investigation” has produced feelings of revulsion. Jason Knauf is William and Kate’s man. How delusional are they to think they can lie their way out of this? The old playbook is not going to work.

    Does Kate really think she can pose next to a BIPOC, make some over-the-top faces, wear something from Zara and it will be business as usual?

    • lanne says:

      They DO think that. This is their problem

      • Jane says:

        Well, to be fair to her, always has been in the past. The bar is set ridiculously low when it comes to her. Why should she think this time would be any different? That would require a capacity for reflection that I’m not sure she possesses.

      • Kalana says:

        Thinking about it, if Charles doesn’t assert leadership, Will and Kate are going to try to dump him with the blame for all this and run away to hide behind the Middletons. There is not a single Windsor mentioned in any of this “goodness.” William already threw Charles and Camilla and his own wife under the bus. Here is Carole coming along to talk up the Middletons as a place for William to hide.

      • (TheOG) Jan90067 says:

        Kalana, you’re right! He doesn’t mention a SINGLE MEMBER of the BRF, not even his Grandmother. Wonder how BP and CH are going to take this one!

    • BayTampaBay says:

      This story has done more for the Sussexes positive PR globally (non UK) than even the Sussexes could hope for. William needs to understand, that especially in the USA and definitely non-UK globally, people who did not know anything about and Meghan & Harry and the people who knew of them but could not care less about them will now be watching the Oprah interview and passing judgment; judgement against the assorted palaces and THE CAMBRIDGES.

      I really do not believe Camilla (also I have real doubts about Charles involvement) had anything to do with this major PR fuck-up.

      • TheOriginalMia says:

        Bay, this reeks of Carole. All of this reeks of the House of Cambridge. I know people believe Charles has been behind some of the smears, but I don’t. This has William’s pettiness and snobbery all over it. This story is purely Middleton PR after William used Kate as a shield last night. They deserve each other. Hope they are all miserable together for many more years to come.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        “after William used Kate as a shield last night”

        Please pull me a full cup of extra strong tea with sugar, no milk and a twist of lemon please!

      • LahdidahBaby says:

        Yeah, I agree with you both—this definitely stinks of Carole, who is way out of her depth. You just don’t develop Palace Level subtlety and duplicity by flying the friendly skies.

      • Ang says:

        Sounds like the Middletons are mad that Charles isn’t joining the hate fest. I suspect he is staying friendly with the Sussexes and letting them do their thing, and W&K are incandescent with rage.

      • My Two Cents says:

        The US or at least CBS is really on Meghan’s side. Have you guys seen this from Stephen Colbert? OMG!!

      • Dl says:

        And the View ladies all agreed and targeted Andrew!

    • Anance says:

      William is surrounded by goodies, let’s leave it at that.

  7. sara says:

    they’re such trash. even if this was true, you’d think they’d put out some type of statement saying they support their brother and sister in law. honestly, even if they did help run the smear campaign (which I think it’s clear they did), you’d think they’d have the PR savvy to put out a statement of support to have some cover. but no, they’re so petty they can’t even do that.

    • Silver Charm says:

      This is backfiring on them so spectacularly it’s honestly astonishing to watch.

    • Becks1 says:

      Right! But its hard for them to do that now because they would look like they are saying their staff are liars. but a skilled PR person should be able to figure it out? “we welcome an investigation into these allegations as we know the Duchess will be exonerated. We love and support our brother and sister in law.” Or something. I dunno. I’m a lawyer not a PR person.

      Of course the better answer would have been NOT to leak to the times.

      • (TheOG) Jan90067 says:

        I think Will, as being the heir, is SO USED to NOT having to support anyone (as HE is the one everyone scrambled to protect), he has no idea of how to put out a statement like that.

    • Sunday says:

      yes, it’s insane that they can’t stop making themselves look bad. if these complaints happened years ago, then guess what, geniuses? You should have investigated at the time! That’s your statement: “kensington palace is full of goodness and so we take the comfort and care of our beloved staff very seriously. these allegations were investigated thoroughly at the time of filing, as is standard HR protocol. The results of the investigation are confidential but all matters have been resolved to uphold the standard of excellence we and our staff strive for everyday as we carry out our work on behalf of the people of England and the UK.” You deflect from any involvement you had in leaking the story in the first place, give a non-answer regarding the actual claims and investigation, and try to make yourselves seem above it all and focused on your work, not petty drama. THIS IS NOT HARD. THEY ARE SO BAD AT THIS.

  8. Em says:

    I spit-laughed at this.

  9. Kimber says:

    Absolutely nauseating. Having a hard time following this drivel. The BRF are putting out the full force of their power to take them down. I wish H and M would scrap the interview that’s already done and do a live one. And BURN IT ALL DOWN.

  10. Digital Unicorn says:

    Oh yes this came from the Middletons, pushing the ‘we’re part of the RF too know you’.

    Plus this is just to pre-empt any revelations about them – there are other reasons Carole decided not to promote/but promote anywhere her Good Housekeeping interview.

    • Andrew’s Nemesis says:

      Have you ever read ‘Class’ by Jilly Cooper? There’s a character called ‘Jen Teale’ who is Ma Middleton’s double: desperately social climbing, paralysed by fear that her working class roots are showing (as if they were something to be ashamed of), and aping the mannerisms of the upper classes.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        I have been trying to find that book for ages but I think it is out of print in the USA.

      • Andrew’s Nemesis says:

        @BayTampaBay It’s available on Kindle – or you could buy it from the UK Amazon site? I’ll never forget that when I was about seven I came across my mother reading it; she whispered hopelessly that she was ‘an upper middle class parody: [Jilly Cooper] has got me to a ‘T’.’

      • notasugarhere says:

        BTB, there are a couple old paperback copies for sale on ABEBooks.

  11. Noki says:

    I have read many times that Kate and her Mother used to run to the tabloids during the dating years,whenever William would treat her badly,its curious how they were never ‘punished ‘ for that and all we hear is how loyal and discreet Kate is/was.

  12. Jessica says:

    This is nauseating. W&K and Carole are full of shit.

  13. Zappy says:

    Did they think everyone is as stupid as them.

  14. Lauren says:

    So even he is not convinced of the goodness of the Windsors. Where is the outrage? Where are the 50 articles about how William is disrespecting the queen while pp is in the hospital? Oh, you say that Willieleaks is white, male and the heir? Nevermind.

  15. Shoo fly says:

    When did the Cambridges begin listening to their advisors? Them not listening to their advisors was a key talking point until Knauf took over and Meghan began dating Harry.

    • The Hench says:

      The whole Covid Choo Choo tour was an exercise in them not listening to anybody…

    • Korra says:

      Knauf’s tenure with the Cambridges goes back to 2015, back when W&K were getting heat from the press about not working enough and ignoring the counsel of advisors. Meghan’s arrival was the catalyst for FFK and FFQ pretending to care. Otherwise, Knauf willingly put up with a lot of nonsense from those two lazy asses before then.

    • FicklePickle says:

      Yeah, that is making me think that this article might have been an attempt by the press (or at least a faction of the press) or possibly Ma Mids to tell William and KP that they need to STFU right now if they don’t want to ruin EVERYTHING for EVERYBODY…without having to actually tell the ragemonster Future-Future-Petty-King-of-England to his face what to do.

      Like, metaphorically grabbing them by the collar and telling him to get a hold of himself because Will can’t put all the blame on Jason Knauf (or any other patsy) if he keeps running his mouth.

  16. Sofia says:

    This is definitely coming from Camp Middleton rather than KP. The ones that tend to praise Kate and/or the Midds more than William come from the Midds themselves.

    • Sunday says:

      Yup, and they’re so obvious about it, too. This is clearly in response to william throwing kate under the bus with the reports that “Meghan” blames Kate and Charles and Camilla (but definitely not william!!) for the leaks, and is made even more obvious due to the simultaneous timing of the ‘carole middleton was supposed to do press for her big interview, but canceled out of respect for prince philip because she’s the best mom and should totally be made a duchess or something’ stories.

      • Saucy&Sassy says:

        Sunday, I said yesterday on one of the posts that after the interview and some of the dust has settled would be the perfect time for Will Not to divorce (if that’s what he wants) Can Not, and throw her under the steamroller as the source of the leaks for all of these years. Frankly, this article is a good one to prove that theory. Things could get interesting.

    • Beach Dreams says:

      They even listed the SOs of the Middleton siblings as part of this “goodness” and no Windsors…why not toss in the cocker spaniels while they’re at it?

  17. S808 says:

    This sounds like Carol’s ridiculous story yesterday so I’m betting she was apart of this. Too many roads lead to KP for anyone to believe this.

  18. Shoo fly says:

    Also with Britain’s lockdown measures they shouldn’t be “surrounded” by anyone, but if you believe Carole hasn’t been making bi weekly usual treks to Anmer in covert missions that are wasting taxpayer resources I have a bridge to sell you

    • notasugarhere says:

      With Phillip at Windsor, William may be living alone at Wood Farm. That would put Carole in panic mode.

      • Remember it was reported the Queen was allowing William (and his family) the use of Sandringham — which is just a short few miles from Amner Hall. Supposedly because the Cambridge’s felt so crowded at Amner. KAISER commented on this because Phillip was forced to relocate from Wood Farm to Windsor Castle due to pandemic staffing issues. And yet, the Queen opened Sandringham to William (and his family). Many of us wondered if William alone had relocated to Sandringham and if there is a ‘rose’ garden there to keep his trimming skills up. One of those stories like his unfaithfulness that surfaced and then died a quick death of no reporter following up on the story.

      • notasugarhere says:

        I think she’s allowed them the use of Sandringham for their offices for zooming. Easier to hide the separate living quarters that way.

  19. Jay says:

    Except for that Jason Knauf, the lead accuser in the “Meghan is a meanie” campaign and the person who claimed he owned part of the copyright of Meghan’s letter in her recent case against the Mail, is (today) the head of one of the Cambridge foundations.

    Except for that Dan Wooten (I know, he’s terrible) recently and rather unhelpfully asserted “make no mistake, William is aware of a great deal that went on” with the accusations against Meghan, and that it “played a significant role” in his rift with Harry. So it’s pretty rich of William to claim today they didn’t know anything.

    And if that’s their best defence, we had no idea this was happening, nobody told us, we were blindsided, we live in a special little bubble and certainly don’t want to hear about anything that’s going on outside…maybe you should not be in these roles, then.

  20. RoyalBlue says:

    Nice try. This would work if we were back in 1720 and there was one source of news while we all live in a repressed society. If ever there was a time to be grateful for freedom of the press and alternative news sources, this is it. We know better and the receipts are out there.

  21. Merricat says:

    The Cambridges have hit themselves in the face with a pie again. Not a good look on the global stage, but pretty damn funny.

  22. Becks1 says:

    I cant. I CANT. How is their PR so bad?!?!?!?

    First – the smear campaign this week is so blatantly from KP, they didnt even try to hide it. jason Knauf went to the Times. If that wasnt authorized by KP, then he needs to be fired, but he wont be, we all know that.

    Second – this is so over the top that I cracked up. Surrounded by goodness – i.e. the middletons? they just want a happy normal family? They are discreet? William, Mr. “I cant my arm around my brother anymore” never hit back??

    I cant stop laughing at this.

    • sunny says:

      How they treated Meghan and Harry is so disgusting and awful, i’m furious. But at the same time they are so dumb, I can’t help but laugh.

      • Becks1 says:

        Exactly! I’m outraged and disgusted at their behavior, but I’m also kind of laughing because they’re so incompetent and this has backfired on them in a huge way.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      “Surrounded by goodness”

      As they spend so much time in Bucklebury, maybe they are all smoking the Bucklebury weed that Carole grows?????

    • I truly think William had no hand in this Page Six story. This has Carole and Kate’s fingerprints all over it. However, Carole always strokes William in her leaks because she is thirsty for her daughter to eventually wear that crown.

  23. Cecilia says:

    *Rolls eyes*

    • Wiglet Watcher says:

      After the interview drops all the narratives will change so all this last minute bs doesn’t matter. Tomorrow will be a cluster fk of new articles.

      Unless, the Queen or Charles actually put a stop to William. Leaks came from all over, but William and KP started it and are trying to keep the war going. Idiots.

  24. SarahCS says:

    Are they using ‘goodness’ to refer to Wandering Willy’s mistresses? Because I absolutely agree that discretion does play a role there and ‘surrounded’ is probably how Kate feels in this context.

    “Won’t be home of tea Catherine, off for some goodness over the fields”

  25. Qzie says:

    Hmmmn. William & Kate, we haven’t forgotten all the Turnip Toff drama and all the rose bush trimming.

  26. Andrew’s Nemesis says:

    Says Peter Hunt, BBC royal correspondent: ‘William in particular has his people on a very tight leash,” he said. “You remain a friend of his as long as you don’t say that which he would find disagreeable.’ And nothing goes on that William does not know. So we’re expected to believe that PWT is innocent and uninformed in all this; even aghast?
    There are so many conflicting narratives coming out of KP that it’s dizzying, but to claim that PWT knew nothing about any of this stretches the boundaries of belief so far they disappear. I detect the fragrant hand of Ma Middleton at work behind this piece. Remember – she is the one who groomed her daughters to marry rich men and treat other women as enemies, while viewing hard work as something to be avoided at all costs. I find her really pernicious.

    • anotherlily says:

      The Middletons are also ‘his people’ and he has them on a very tight leash. The Sun reports that Carole sought William’s instructions about her magazine promotion : ”She always gets William’s go-ahead before any interview like this, and he is incredibly supportive.”

      The ‘tight leash’ reference was also used about William’s conduct towards Kate when she was his girlfriend. It sounds like an abusive relationship.

    • notasugarhere says:

      The Middletons had William on a velvet leash for years. Manipulation must be their middle names. As long as he doesn’t get caught cheating publicly, they all play along and pander to him. When he gets caught, Mummy Carole gives him a talking to then soothes him with his fav cheesy toast. Three people in this marriage.

  27. nutella toast says:

    So….are C & C and The Queen gonna be hurt that they aren’t “goodness” that surrounds the two saints?

  28. Victoria says:

    I am living for this implosion!

    It’s just so bad. When Croatia and Iceland are willing to pay for the tea, honey child!!!!!!

    This is truly the embodiment of, “what a time to be alive!”

    It boggles the mind, though, how much Carole is allowed to run her mouth while Willy Bonkers and Karen get to be called discreet. I get that was her wording but they are treated like that at large by the press.

    • anotherlily says:

      and it keeps on getting better. Pop over to ‘Byline Investigates’ and get the full account of Justice Warby’s latest ruling in ”Meghan Vs The Mail : It Just Gets Worse For The Tabloid ”

      The Mail Online and Mail on Sunday now have to publish the ruling on the front page with further details on page 3 and repeat this for 7 days.

      • Victoria says:

        @Anthony you just made my day! Ty!

      • windyriver says:

        @anotherlily – did you catch the ironic little nugget in that Byline piece? That Lord Justice Warby, who ruled so decisively for Meghan, when he was a QC, frequently worked *for the papers* and led the Mail on Sunday defense when Charles sued them in 2006? I assume this isn’t considered a conflict of interest in any way, but wow. That means he knows from experience how the tabloids do their work.

        As the article mentions, the papers might have hoped the previous connection would work in their favor, but I wonder if it was just the opposite, the Justice went out of his way to avoid any possible appearance of favoritism. That could be why he allowed the Mail to drag in what looked like a bunch of extraneous factors as part of the defense.

  29. Miranda says:

    To paraphrase that pearl-clutching rich bitch from yesterday, SIT DOWN, CAROLE.

  30. NCDancer says:

    They are so bad at this! Someone in their “PR” team thought the way to change public opinion in the US was to go to Page Six. Sure, Jan.

  31. February-Pisces says:

    Car park Carole strikes again. It’s funny how Willie and keen are surrounded by goodness, followed by a comprehensive list of all the middletons, yeah it’s not suspicious at all. I have a feeling the end is nigh regarding the middletons, the sh*t is about to hit the fan.

  32. Angel says:

    I apologize for ever doubting that he and his wife were behind the smear campaign.

  33. Maria says:

    These two are so nauseating and now I hope they break up soon and that it’s messy. It will serve them right for how much they’ve tried to destroy Harry’s marriage.

  34. Beach Dreams says:

    So Daily Fail offers up Kate’s name in H&M’s suspicions for leakers and even emphasizes that it’s HER household, as if she doesn’t have a whole ass husband who heads it as well. And now there’s Page Six with a desperately saccharine story about both Cambridges being so bundled up in Middleton “goodness” and far away from the “soap opera” that they created in the first place. Such different narratives from a couple who clearly aren’t on the same page in trying to contain their mess…

  35. Linney says:

    These two always talk out of both sides of their mouths. How many times did we hear that the reason they don’t work more is because the QUEEN told them not to? After all, she wanted them to focus on themselves and their children because apparently, people who work can’t do that. Then, on the other hand, we heard multiple times that William and Kate are very much in charge of their own schedule. So which is it? Now we hear that William and Kate are a couple of innocents who float through life on a cloud of goodness and sometimes people are mean to them and they can’t do anything about it. On the other hand, how many times have we heard that Prince Incandescent is a control freak with a bad temper? I mean, yeesh!

  36. Jumpingthesnark says:

    OT but Kaiser, can you talk about Emily Andrews tweeting at you in the next podcast? It is so strange!!

  37. Betsy says:

    Ill tell you what’s fascinating: I am on another site on the internet and the Meghan haters (the venom is all for her, somehow, that’s weird) would totally believe this.

    I have to out myself: there’s something about Meghan I don’t love. But I find myself loudly defending her because the hatred for her reminds me of the same kind of stupidity that elevates terrible people like Donald Trump, applauds Ivanka as a classy lady and would hunt poor people for sport if they thought they could get away with it. There’s just a level of stupid and arrogant with a thin veneer of cheap, new clothes standing in for actual reflection and goodness.

    So I’m in Camp Meghan and Harry.

  38. Nina says:

    Again, I find this so interesting: they are surrounded by Kate’s family. No mention of Charles, the Queen. As if there’s a huge rift between them

  39. Maevo says:

    Verrrrry interesting that their normal wonderful family is all about the Middletons and no mention of Charles 😆

    • And yet, William and Charles have grown so incredibly close now that bad boy Harry has been evicted from the island. Which is it? House Cambridge’s new logo: 🙈🙊🙉

  40. ennie says:

    Goodness and discretion for the heir, and a damn strainer for the spare.
    As the character in Hellboy says: “I see the puppet, but where is the puppeteer?

    The courtiers/leaker/Jason might have been doing the leaking, but who gives the orders? They are SO not acting by themselves.

  41. BnLurkN4eva says:

    Well I guess Charles once again backed the wrong horse. His cowardice is going to eventually cost him everything and I’m here for when that day comes. When Meghan came along, you could almost sense the change in the relationship between Harry and Charles and then it all went out the window. I’ve always suspected Mr. Incandescent (William for new lurkers) saw the closeness and decided to put a stop to it by inserting himself and Charles fell for it and eventually chose his heir over his spare.

    Truly, William and Kate are like cartoon villains, sloppy and terrible in equal parts. I truly want to know what goes through the mind of anyone falling for this nonsense they are attempting to sell.

    • notasugarhere says:

      I don’t think the relationship between Harry and Charles has degraded. The sweet interview between Charles and Harry (Radio 4) was Dec 2017. A year and a half after Meghan entered Harry’s life, a month after they announced their engagement.

      As we’ve discussed before, Charles knows what William is and has no idea what to do with him, never has. Best option was helping Harry and Meghan get away from him however he could.

      - Going against William and giving Harry and Meghan a separate Household under BP was a big step. But there’s too much William mess to clean up, including allegations of him trying to steal the Hubb money, his life-long jealousy and abuse of Harry, god only knows what William did/said to/around Meghan from the beginning.

      - Approving them renting secretly in the Cotswolds to get them away from W&K before that.

      - QEII and Charles offering up Frogmore Cottage as another option, instead of telling them they were only allowed to live next to W&K at KP.

      - Approving the secret six week break in Canada which was ultimately outed by William and his staff.

      I think Charles supports Sussexit because he wants the Sussex Family safe from William. Whatever chaos, abuse, and downfall of the monarchy William causes? Charles wants the Sussex Family out of the fray, earning an enormous private living, and out of the UK. He would have wanted Harry and spouse to be part of his reign, but given W&K’s unhinged reaction to Meghan? Charles knows they’re better off out of the Firm. Ultimately he’s chosen the monarchy, but hasn’t chosen his older son over his younger one.

      • Amy Bee says:

        Nah, whatever relationship they had it’s done. Too much things have happened since the Wedding. He didn’t support them in their lawsuits and it’s been reported that he distanced himself from Harry and Meghan.

      • Betsy says:

        I didn’t know the bit about the Cotswolds, but yes, I agree with your general point. I think William is genuinely a low-key monster, barely constrained by social convention, and it seems to me that neither Charles nor Elizabeth have ever known what to do with him. Both of them definitely have their spoiled/petty/clueless sides (and Charles used to have the rages, too), but I do think they’re basically decent people with the concept of noblesse oblige and service. William seems not to have absorbed the agreement that the Royals have made with the public.

        Frankly, I still wish William would just get really huffy and remove himself and his children from succession. Harry and Meghan would be so much more interesting and would do so much more that William and Kate.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Amy Bee, ‘reported’ by William and Knauf I suspect. Charles and Harry have always been closer than Charles and William. Charles knows what William is. He may have had hopes William could change, but after W’s reaction to Harry and Meghan’s happiness? Charles supports Sussexit to protect his younger son.

      • windyriver says:

        @nota, I thought this was an interesting perspective when you and others raised it a while ago. Given the info from the Corden piece that Harry is on good terms with his grandparents, am inclined to think your theory could be true. It would explain a lot about why Charles has been MIA about publicly supporting Harry and Meghan in the last few years, if the truth was, Harry and Charles are on good terms behind the scenes, and Harry understands the position Charles is in with respect to William, and why he doesn’t speak out.

        For all Charles flaws, especially when younger/re: Diana, as POW he’s got a noteworthy, (unprecedented?) body of work to his credit. To do as he’s done with Prince’s Trust, etc. he must not only have some understanding and smarts, but some level of compassion. How could he not be proud of a son like Harry, who is more or less following in his footsteps, and has chosen a partner equally committed to a life focused on service and making a difference? Heck, Charles adapted Meghan’s SmartWorks idea, with his sustainable fashion Net-A-Porter collection last fall.

        Meanwhile, have said before re: William: for someone with his flaws – weak, not too bright, unfocused, angry, ego inflated since childhood by everyone around him because of his status – connecting/being ensnared by Carole/Kate was probably the worst thing that could happen. There’s no guarantee he would have turned out much better, but being in Carole’s orbit likely magnified his worst qualities, because doing so served her purposes. That I suspect this is true has led to the only smidgen of sympathy I’ve had for Will. It reminds me of what Meghan says about her father Tom, another very flawed person, having been “corrupted” by the media.

        Of course, at this point, Carole likely no longer has the same influence. Will’s connection with Kate appears tenuous. He has other sycophants, and people with different agendas, in his orbit. He’s a grown up, his (unpleasant) character appears fixed, and he’s responsible for his own choices. Hopefully one day soon he will get the message that those choices have been poor ones.

    • Shades of Bullwinkle’s Natasha and Boris. They are just as inept aren’t they.

  42. Kfg says:

    Lolol PWT is going to flip about this. Carole is not taking the hint. She and Kate will be sacrificed after this interview.

  43. Ohpioneer says:

    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. Sure Jan.(Jan aka Kate & Wills).

  44. MsIam says:

    Wow, William and KP are really going to throw the rest of his family under the bus! Surrounded by goodness, indeed! But shame on the rest of the royals for allowing this to happen. I know they are all old but come on!

  45. Amy Bee says:

    Goodness and the Royal Family don’t mix. Total BS!

  46. Jules says:

    Goodness like Prince Andrew?

  47. Amelie says:

    You know who I would love to hear from but who will probably remain silent until the end of time because she loves her daughter? Doria. We’ve got William (by extension Kate), Carole, all the random courtiers and aides, Charles (by extension Camilla), and all of William’s “friends” putting out stories out there to discredit Harry and Meghan. I’m honestly really surprised we haven’t heard from Thomas or Samantha Markle regarding this Oprah interview, but if Meghan talks about them to Oprah I’m sure we’ll hear about it afterwards.

    I’m half-expecting Doria to show up on camera but not speaking to Oprah, maybe just footage of her interacting with Archie. But it would be such a sneaky move to surprise the whole world with Oprah interviewing her without releasing it ahead of time (though at this point I’m not sure how they could keep that under wraps). The British tabloid media already looks awful for harassing and bullying Meghan, a woman of color, and Harry. What would they do with Doria’s inclusion in the interview? If they were to try to discredit a Black American woman who has never tried to profit off her daughter (unlike a certain father we all know) or her “connection” to the royal family, the American media’s reaction to their attempts to smear Doria on top of smearing Meghan would be… I don’t even have a word for that would be. But we’ll never hear from Doria is my guess. She’s too smart to engage in all this.

    • Coco says:

      If you’ve seen ‘The Windsors’ on Netflix, I love the episode with Doria, perhaps the only character in the whole show who lives in reality.

      • Betsy says:

        I think the Pippa character is pretty reality grounded (is it Camilla she attacks, “I didn’t want to hurt my sister, just fck her up a bit!”) but I do like the Doria character.

  48. RoyalBlue says:

    They are crazy. We know the lunatics are running the asylum over there.

  49. Scout says:

    William is such a cad. He’s a cad to his father. He’s a cad to his wife. He’s a cad to his brother…

  50. Keri, says:

    Good God! Not everyone is as dim as you are incandescent Willie and Katie keen. So lazy and stupid that they promoted the guy who initiated and continues the smears against Meghan and Harry. They are so confident that the firm and media will bury any negative press against them but lack the brain cells to realize that the whole world now sees what they’ve done and consider them lazy, mean spirited, vindictive jokes who are dumber than rocks.

    Surrounded by goodness? Yeah, pimp mama Middleton who has the tabloids on speed dial and treats service people like crap or uncle Gary, the wife beater and criminal, who has bankrolled the family for years.

  51. Seraphina says:

    Truly nauseating is exactly right. WOW. As soon as FFK and FFQC are sainted, they need to saint the Middleton Clan.
    I am wondering what PC is thinking right about now.

  52. Coco says:

    I can see them surrounding themselves with goodness just to suck it out of the atmosphere and feed on it,!like a pair of moral vampires.

  53. Jessie says:

    As someone who clearly watched the royals abuse Diana in real time I still don’t understand how Carole made it her life’s mission for Kate to marry in to the Firm?? What loving parent would want that for their child? Surely no amount of titles can make up for the fact your child is doomed to stay in an openly loveless marriage with a man who clearly resents the fact she’s not Rose Hanbury. It’s almost enough to make me feel sorry for Kate (not quite, though).

    • Lizzie Bathory says:

      Right?! All of the aristos learned to steer their daughters away from the Windsors after seeing what Diana went through. I think it’s pretty clear Carole was just determined to chase that cursed ring no matter what. The only plan beyond that was having kids & crafting a “family man” image for Wills to prevent him dumping Kate (which I think isn’t going to work long term). For all the talk of how close the Middletons are, it seems like they’re just enmeshed in a really unhealthy way. There really to seem to be three people in this marriage. The irony….

    • notasugarhere says:

      Position, prestige, money. Don’t forget that last one. If William becomes king, he inherits upwards of a billion in private wealth tax-free. He likely paid for the new Middleton Manor, potentially as a post-nup, out of his Diana inheritance. But the sooner William becomes king, the sooner Mummy Carole can whisper in his ear about how much money she needs.

      • FicklePickle says:

        And even if that doesn’t work, hey, there’s always George. Carole would probably be dead by then but Catherine is probably being groomed to take on the Pimp Momma mantle.

  54. Jezebel's Lacefront says:

    With every freeze frame of their faces, their demons show themselves. Even their smiles illustrate how plastic they live.

  55. Liz version 700 says:

    PWT says what?!? The photos (which are great) really lean into the PWT narrative). They are so so bad at this.

  56. MangoAngelesque says:

    “There I was, walking through the rose bushes, when suddenly this Angry Black Woman kidnapped my brother, yelled at my granny, hissed at all of my TERRIFIED staff because she’s part snake…or cat…whichever black one is scarier… and then rapped something about money in Ebonics-American and ran away!”

    “And you did nothing to provoke any of this?”

    “No, of course not! I am utterly aghast you would think such a thing! It was my wife, you see. And….my father. Yes. And, er… Camilla. You all still hate her, right? Right. Camilla.”

    • Liz version 700 says:

      Hahahahaha!!!! Tripping through the tulips as it were fell face first into a rose bush …

      • MangoAngelesque says:

        Oh, come now. We all now there’s no way William’s generous or selfless enough to have been face-first ANYWHERE!

      • Lizzie Bathory says:

        @MangoAngelesque Snort. Kate’s not even supposed to walk in ahead of William. No way he’s “ladies first” in other aspects of his life.

      • Liz version 700 says:

        Hahahahaha omg you guys are on fire

  57. Izzy says:

    Yes, so discreet that everyone knows about his habit of pruning rose bushes.

  58. Eleonora says:

    They’re surrounded by what now?

    Lol :D

  59. Liz version 700 says:

    Hello!?!? Err don’t mind me, I am just leaking stories to the press about how I am too discrete and surrounded by goodness to ever leak stories to the press. Is Richard Kay still on hold?

  60. SenseOfTheAbsurd says:

    Hahahahahahaha this is so hilariously stupid. Looking forward to photoshopped pics of Kate being swarmed by friendly woodland creatures irresistibly drawn to her flawless Disney princess magical goodness.

  61. lolalola3 says:

    Laying low during the pandemic?? Didn’t they take a TRAIN TOUR of Scotland??
    These two lazy sods don’t udestand why just their existence isn’t good enough. God forbid they actually DO something besides open a mini-mart of break a bottle on a ship (do people even do that anymore?)

  62. EveV says:

    I had to go back and read the article again, it reads like satire. Thanks for the laugh, Lame bridges.

  63. Steph says:

    This is such a gross statement to put out. It’s as ugly as the plane stunt. Like, we knew all the other stuff was coming from him but this is so blatant.

  64. Catwoman says:

    Kate is super thin. Like girl please eat a cheeseburger thin. I’m wondering if William bullies her about her weight like Charles bullied Diana. It honestly wouldn’t surprise me.

  65. Jayna says:

    William is thin but his face is becoming like Prince Andrew’s, with the widening in the bottom half of his face. It’s weird how that’s happening to his face, when he really hasn’t gained weight.

  66. Lila says:

    Right. Then how come does William look like he’s being eaten from the inside out with bitterness?

  67. Dl says:

    Does anyone else think if this goes really bad for PWT that it may signal the end of Duchess Do little?

    • Beach Dreams says:

      Possibly. I’m not in the “they’ll never divorce” camp but I also think it would take a lot for the marriage to end. I think your scenario is one of the few instances where divorce could be done and dusted. Today just got even worse for the royals, thanks to a ton of vocal support from Meghan’s friends and former colleagues (and from even more prominent people pushing back against the abuse). I think what’s said in the interview will be extremely important. I don’t believe Meghan will name-check them (but will Harry…?), but if enough people are explicitly calling out William and Kate post-interview, things could get interesting for them.

  68. Amy Too says:

    They’re surrounded by goodness in the form of every single named member of the Middleton family, as you can tell from the fact that this “close family source” (Carole Middleton) is using such phrasing and insults as:

    “… they don’t want to get involved in this public bitch fest”
    “…it appears that Meghan and Harry are listening to no one”
    “…it’s honestly like watching Elizabeth Hurley in ‘The Royals’…”

    The “goodness” just jumps off the page with all the swearing and the insulting and the name calling. I mean seriously, you’re trying to sell yourselves as the super wholesome, kind, sweet and discreet ones and then you refer to Meghan daring to speak as being a “bitch fest”!? So sweet, so good.

    • Feeshalori says:

      Actually, switch “goodness to “goons” and it reads more logically.

    • Nina says:

      Carole has not yet become skilled in aristo speak. She might have moved up into the aristo circles but every now and then the plebian speak slips out

      • swirlmamad says:

        That is a good point. “Bitch fest” is more crass than a true aristo would ever say. But the wolf in aristo’s clothing, Carole, still has that tacky streak that will never fully go away….

  69. KinChicago says:

    Correction: Surrounded by Rose Bush and PedoPrince Andrew.

  70. KinChicago says:

    Correction: Surrounded by Rose Bush and PedoPrince Andrew.

  71. The Recluse says:

    Man, that was some nauseating propaganda. I darn near lost my meal.
    They remind me of that fool Drumpf: they think they’re so darn brilliant and meanwhile we’re all looking at them like they’re bonkers.

  72. Chartreuse says:

    I’m surprised they don’t just say surrounded in whiteness and be done with it. Between this and the hissing story these people couldn’t be more obvious 🤦‍♀️

  73. Lizzie says:

    How is one incandescent with rage regularly and yet surrounded with good? Not buying what they are selling.

  74. J ferber says: