Prince Charles hopes Jason Knauf’s exit will help with a Sussex reconciliation

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Dan Wootton knows more than he lets on, clearly. Wootton got a lot of (sus) scoops when he worked for the Sun, and now that he’s a Daily Mail columnist, his royal-themed columns are full of weirdness, shade and delusion. The “open letter” Wootton wrote to Prince William still haunts me, it was so creepy. Well, Wootton’s latest column is also creepy (I think that’s just his vibe) but also admitting the obvious, which can be somewhat hard to do for royal commentators. The obvious in this situation is that Jason Knauf had to leave the employ of the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge for many reasons, and one of those reasons might have been to dial down the drama with the Sussexes. It was clear that Knauf had been actively working against Harry and Meghan for some time. So is Knauf’s dismissal all part of a larger plan?

Prince Charles is looking to slowly reconcile with Harry: A royal source with insight of Charles’ position tells me: ‘The Prince of Wales knows he didn’t always succeed as a father, but he tried his absolute best. Harry has been hurting since he was a little boy. It’s not an easy situation. But Prince Charles would much rather his son be by his side. Of course, there is disappointment and sadness about the Oprah interview, and the relationship with Harry is strained to say the least. But Prince Charles, as the new patriarch of the Royal Family, is very aware of his future role and the need to protect the monarchy. An ongoing battle with Harry and Meghan in California is not conducive to that. At the end of the day, above everything else, family always comes first. The Prince of Wales would like to find a way to make Harry and Meghan included again, even though that is likely to take many years.’

Jason Knauf’s exit: While there is nothing at all sinister about Knauf’s decision to leave at the end of the year – his husband is believed to be taking a diplomatic post overseas – my sources say it provides opportunities for future king Charles. A royal insider explains: ‘Prince Charles and senior royal courtiers are very aware of the bitterness between Harry and Meghan and many of the senior staff who were in post during their time in the Family after their wedding. Jason was particularly a lightning rod because he was also the communications secretary to Harry and Meghan, but then wrote the infamous letter accusing her of bullying staff that was leaked to The Times newspaper in the days before the Oprah interview. It was impossible to imagine any sort of rapprochement while he remained in a senior role at William and Kate’s foundation and one of their key advisers.’

Palace sources hope Harry & Meghan are watching: Royal sources tell me Harry and Meghan will likely be satisfied with Knauf’s departure. Another insider explains: ‘Things turned very sour between the Sussexes and Knauf once their operations were split with the Cambridges. They felt they could no longer trust him. The hope is that bridges will also be easier to rebuild bridges between William and Harry next year with a new team in place. That’s what Charles wants them to do. He would like there to be a more pleasant atmosphere at family events in the medium-term. But once Charles is king, in an ideal world, he would like to think there is a role for Harry.’

The crisis managers: Prince Charles and Prince William’s communications secretaries Julian Payne and Christian Jones have both left. Clarence House and Kensington Palace have hired NHS staff to lead their media operations in what is seen as a sea change from the more combative Harry and Meghan era. Simon Enright will next week join to run Charles’ public relations after leaving as communications director for NHS England where he played an essential role throughout the coronavirus pandemic. Running the media operations for William and Kate at Kensington Palace is Victoria O’Byrne, who was director of communications for NHS Test and Trace.

[From The Daily Mail]

I was under the impression that both O’Byrne and Enright had already started their positions at the beginning of May. Perhaps only O’Byrne has started already. It makes sense, especially since April was full of dumb, obvious, poorly-thought-out drama from William and Kate and there’s been a marked difference this month. I still believe that as soon as new people came into Kensington Palace, they realized what an unprofessional sh-tshow everything is in that office. It’s no surprise that Knauf was one of the first ones to get his walking papers.

As for the stuff about Charles… yeah, this too is the work of crisis managers trying to force the future king into looking like a father who is trying to do his best. I think if it were up to Charles, at this point, he really would draw a line under Harry and throw his lot in with Baldingham and the unhinged, pot-farming Middletons. This Wootton column is just a piece of convenience to make Charles look like “a king who can build bridges with his beloved son.” It’s Charles trying to take credit for getting Knauf out of the way. Which makes me wonder what really happened.

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  1. Lauren says:

    I’m still of the idea that Poor Jason had to have had approval for all of it, from the Queen’s private secretary, who is also Chuck’s yes man. It would have been too easy to track this back to Chuck. It’s the best move to get rid of the weak link (Jason) who is also compromised beyond words, it shouldn’t have taken a crisis manager to understand this, but here we are.

    • Izzy says:

      Under normal circumstances I would agree, but there was nothing normal about how they handled Meghan being a part of the family. It makes me wonder if Camp Cambridge wasn’t running a little rogue at that point.

      • Snuffles says:

        I think Kensington Palace went COMPLETELY rogue. The double whammy of Meghan getting pregnant and the wildly successful Australian tour broke something in their brain and the declared war on Meghan in an effort to destroy her. They weren’t even subtle about it. No stealth moves, just hit the nuclear button immediately.

        Now why Charles sat on his ass and let it happen is the ultimate question. A question I’m sure Harry has been asking too. Because he definitely had the power to shut that shit down but he didn’t. The only conclusion to me is that they secretly hoped it would work and drive Meghan away and were happy to let KP get their hands dirty and appear to be above the fray. They probably thought they could feign ignorance over KP’s behavior but Harry ain’t stupid.

        But Harry leaving was unfathomable, and they’ve been in a state of shock ever since.

      • Lauren says:

        They did go rogue quite a few times, and I believe that one of those times was Jason giving the electronic version of Meghan’s letter to the Fail with the excuse that he and 3 other palace aides helped write it without providing any proof and Bullygate. Chuck made sure to keep as far away as possible from that.

      • Andrew’s Nemesis says:

        @Snuffles PWT is insanely competitive on his own – bad enough. But with Mean Girl Wiglet, who’s equally if not more insanely competitive? M&H’s success was pure kryptonite to them. The balcony scene in Fiji was The Moment. From then all bets were off and a knife-grinder installed in KP.

      • Kalana says:

        Two birds, one stone. Meghan leaves, the Cambridges lose some of their popularity. Will and Kate used up a lot of their social capitol to push Meghan out and William lost control of Harry.

        Charles did not support Meghan. Literally in some ways. Being asked to keep acting, funding for clothing and security -all of that is Charles. William can’t be blamed for everything.

      • Becks1 says:

        One of the disturbing things to come out in The Interview was that the family was against Meghan from the start. We have all discussed here – and Harry mentioned it – that the Oceania tour seemed to be a trigger for the smear campaign, but it was clear that Meghan was NEVER welcomed with open arms, despite all the insistence otherwise. Saying that she should keep on acting bc there wasn’t money to support her – they really thought that she was a temporary wife and that she would be gone soon.

        Now KP did go rogue IMO with the smear campaign – out of fear about William’s affair becoming public, out of jealousy, out of selfishness, or some combination thereof – but its clear that there was an effort in the family from the get-go to keep Meghan “in her place” and I think that would have come from Charles. And honestly, I’m not really sure why. Jealousy? Racism? Fear of a Diana repeat? but he had this woman who could have been a HUGE asset to the firm and I think he would have realized that, especially considering she was willing to work and Kate was not (and still isn’t.) Was there fear she would have been too big of an asset? Did Charles not realize how much his image improved when people thought he WAS welcoming Meghan with open arms?

        It was/is all so messy and we only know the surface.

      • Mac says:

        I think Charles is perfectly comfortably, if not happy, with the Cambridges’ light working schedule because it keeps the focus on him. Harry and Meghan were clearly going to threaten that. The smear campaign may have been run out of KP, but CH clearly approved it.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Agree, Snuffles. KP was off on Planet TOB, actively working against both Clarence House and Harry/Meghan.

      • Nic919 says:

        Knauf getting directly involved with the lawsuit and helping the MoS (it couldn’t be more obvious that he was the palace source) and the fake bullying claims days before the Oprah interview were actions crossing the line because Knauf then became publicly tied to those actions whereas the smart courtiers remain behind the scenes. It shows William’s desperation that he let Knauf do this and didn’t immediately turf him.

      • Yvette says:

        I think Jason Knauf either fell on his sword for or was thrown to the wolves by William and Kate. Most of the things leaked about Harry and Meghan occurred while they lived at Kensington Palace and shared staff with the Cambridges. That shared staff thing continued when they moved from Kensington. Remember when Harry formally asked permission to form and staff a separate office for he and Meghan? The request was denied and instead he and Meghan were shuffled over to the Buckingham Palace Communication’s Office.

        This could very well be an olive branch from Buckingham Palace and Clarence House. It seems to me that a lot of sh$t hit the floor once the Queen asked questions after the Oprah interview. And isn’t it strange that not one word has since been mentioned from Buckingham Palace about that ‘bullying’ claim put forth by Knauf, even though they supposedly ‘passed it on to their outside legal team, who would conduct interviews with those who made claims?’

        I said last year that I believed as soon as Charles became King he would request Harry and Meghan to return to England in his service, because William wants to be King ‘now’ and Harry does love his father and has no dog in that hunt. Don’t know how William and Kate would feel about that, but their opinion wouldn’t matter until after William becomes King.

      • BlueToile says:

        I am going to have to agree with Mac (above) on this one. Charles was obviously getting some mileage out of the Sussex smear campaign and encouraged it at times. Remember the whole thing began with stories that Kate and Meghan were fighting and Charles was going to give them a stern talking to during Christmas at Sandringham? Who comes out ahead in that narrative? I also agree that Charles is a crap parent and a crap person and would be happy to write Harry off completely and just move on. Notice how we have the article today about “aids” wanting them to give up their titles? That is Charles 100%. I think he would prefer nevet to see them again. He is like his mother, just avoid the problem and it doesn’t exist. Sadly, the fastest way to rehab his image would be to bring H&M back into the family fold and be very publicly supportive of them. It will never happen, but there it is.

    • Amy Bee says:

      I think it was a joint effort between CH and KP. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Julian Payne, Simon Case and Christian Jones have all left within a year of Harry and Meghan stepping down. They were successful in getting Meghan to leave which was the goal but Harry leaving as well was an unmitigated disaster. I think KP went rogue when it leaked the bullying story to the Times. Knauf being in the middle of all the drama concerning Harry and Meghan meant his position became untenable. Palace aides are to not to become part of the story so he had to leave. The same thing happened to Mark Bolland.

    • what's inside says:

      Charles’ fingerprints are all over this entire mess with Harry and Meghan and now he is falling back into his old formula of poor me — I’m trying my best. No he isn’t. If he was, none of this would have happened.

      • Tessa says:

        Charles should have shut down William and told him he had no business trying to push Harry out and tell Kate to have denied the crying story.

  2. Noki says:

    Prince Charles is a little weasel and always has been. Him cutting off his Son and his family at such a crucial time for their emotional and physical well being is unforgivable.

    • Randie says:

      Exactly!!
      Charles deliberately cut off Harry and cut him out. He stripped him of his security. Just as Harry said, it was a risk he inherited. And in one snap Ole daddy stripped him of any protection. What a great dad! Then there is the silent treatment. Which is nothing but a punishment. A person uses silence to punish someone or to exert control or power over them, this is a form of emotional abuse.
      Abuse plane and simple.

  3. Snuffles says:

    Harry will NEVER return to WORK for The Firm. You can fire everyone and it still wouldn’t happen.

    I think there was a window of time where a move like this might have satisfied Harry enough to stay but that window has long closed. Harry has tasted sweet freedom and is happier than he’s ever been in his entire life. I think even he is surprised at how well it is going being outside of The Firm.

    The most Charles can hope for is to reconnect with his son as a father and grandfather to Harry’s kids. Have Harry visit the UK from time to time to visit family. No family business. I think that is all Harry wants.

    • equality says:

      He and Meghan might be willing to do the things like Bea and Eugenie do, such as the Christmas walk and Trooping. Maybe they are looking to get Harry to air documentaries on Netflix for their pet causes or propaganda.

      • Snuffles says:

        But would Charles humble himself and realize that Harry and Meghan would be in charge and making the final decisions on anything they put their name to? Doubt it. Which is sad because I think they probably could collaborate on a few issues but Charles’s ego would prevent that from happening.

      • Izzy says:

        If they’re smart they’ll try for this. Harry and Meghan can spotlight their pet causes in a way they themselves never could.

      • Snuffles says:

        @equality

        Agreed. That’s about as far as Harry and Meghan are willing to go. Attend the occasional family event and hopefully get to the point where everyone is respectful and civil to each other.

      • Maria says:

        I think they’re done doing things like Trooping and tours. The damage the Royals have done is too much.

        I think Harry and Meghan will do private family celebrations and that’s that.

      • liz says:

        Harry & Megan will attend the BIG events – Elizabeth’s funeral and Charles’s coronation – as The Duke and Duchess of Sussex.

        They will show up as invited guests to family weddings as “Mom’s cousin Harry & his wife, Meghan.”

        I don’t think we will ever see them on the Balcony for Trooping or on official tours again. That part of his life is over.

    • notasugarhere says:

      I think Harry and Meghan would be willing to do things like the Queen’s Commonwealth Trust, Trooping, military appointments, and occasional tours as part of a Charles reign.

      • Maria says:

        I would be surprised if either of them were interested in the Commonwealth Trust given that they were removed from it and Nicola Brentnall was “urged” to “move on” because she was too much of a “Sussex cheerleader”.
        Ditto the military appointments. There’s been too much malice in how the Sussexes were removed from these things and it’s been public malice.

      • Saucy&Sassy says:

        notasugarhere, but would H&M involve themselves in anything that the RR would be covering? Somehow, I can’t see them opening that door again.

      • Yvette says:

        @notasugarhere … Agreed. And I think that is all Charles would ask of them.

    • Myjobistoprincess says:

      I would see H coming back in a one step in one step out style only if its military related.

      • Lizzie says:

        I agree, Harry is very much about duty and would work something out if his military honors were restored and some olive branch must be extended to Meghan. Because he is even more serious about his duty to his wife.

  4. UnionSnack says:

    No wonder to be honest. Charles’ plans for slimmed down monarchy always included Harry and his family, Charles just wanted to cut all of the freeloaders and persons like Andrew.

    All I can see is that Charles finally took the “regency”. After khate’s leaving Harry and Meghan could be part-time royals.

    • Cecilia says:

      Harry & meghan returning as part time royals won’t happen. That ship has sailed.

      • Lemons says:

        I think that Harry & Meghan would be more than willing to take on royal patronages for the causes they want and to interact with said patronages on their terms. I do not see them following a RR schedule and cutting ribbons for buildings and parks unless they are heavily involved in their construction.

        But I can only see this happening years from now. They want to build their own success right now. And Charles will be BEGGING them to come back because the Sussexes will have their heels on the RF’s news cycle and WILL NOT LET UP. They are already gasping, trying to breathe life into their own projects.

      • Yvette says:

        @Lemons … I think Harry and Meghan would be willing to take over the Commonwealth countries as well as Harry’s military appointments, trooping the colors, and a tour here and there at Charles’s request.

    • Amy Bee says:

      @unionsack: The chance for Harry and Meghan being part-time royals is gone. They’re not going back to life. Last week’s podcast confirmed that.

    • KW says:

      let’s be honest! William and Kate are part time royals, IF THAT!!!!! They hardly work but want all the bells and whistles. Talk about freeloaders. I sure hope for everyone’s sake that that’s the only thing Willy learned from uncle pedo. These ugly inbreds seem to think that they can have whomever they wish. Is classism so important in UK that people bend down with their pinky fingers in the air when they kiss the asses of asses?

      • Lizzie says:

        Thank you! I’ve been saying the same. IN what world is what little they do considered full time? I expect its because they do no other type of work, which the thought of is laughable.

    • betsyh says:

      Charles and William want Harry back, not Meghan. The proof of this is that Charles didn’t make Archie a prince–they were doing their best to get Harry to divorce Meghan and for her take “her” baby back to the US.

      • booboocita says:

        Charles can’t make Archie and Lil’ Montecito prince and princess. Only the monarch can do that, and with the Queen still alive, Charles can’t do give anyone a title, despite the “soft” regency. I’m thinking the proof of Charles’s willingness and intention to reconcile with his second son will come after the Queen’s passing and his coronation. If Archie and Lil’ Montecito are given titles, I’ll believe he’s truly willing to reconcile. If not, wellllll … it won’t matter anyways. By then, Harry and Meghan will be so firmly ensconced in the USA and in philanthropic circles that there can be no question of their return to the UK. Not gonna happen.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        “If Archie and Lil’ Montecito are given titles”

        Archie and his sister will not be given “titles” by Charles III . The will automatically have the “style” of HRH Prince/Princess when Charles II ascends the throne unless Charles III changes the George V Letter Patent of 1917

      • lanne says:

        Changing the letters patent, if I’m correct, involves getting the unanimous support of the countries where the monarch is head of state? So asking for a change of letters patent specifically to apply to Archie and Baby Sussex is going to look super sketchy, and it will now play out on a world stage.

        Imagine public debates over this, newspaper headlines all over the world with whatever baby pictures of Archie and new baby are released, saying “should these babies be Prince and Princess?” “Should the Diana’s grandchildren be stripped of their titles?”

        Oof.

      • Feeshalori says:

        I mentioned something about this in the other thread that if Charles changes the LP to remove Harry’s children as prince/princess as an excuse for downsizing the royals, he’d better look at the other family members too I.e. James and Louise who I believe can assume their HRHs is when they turn 18.

      • Lizzie says:

        Do they? I think they don’t want Harry being successful and outshining both of them but they don’t act as if they want him back. They had a chance for face to face reconciliation and blew it off.

    • Beach Dreams says:

      IMO it’s too late for that. Harry and Meghan already offered to be part-time last year and were roundly shut down. As they said in the Oprah interview, what they were seeking wasn’t any different from what other royals had, and yet they were ultimately pushed out. Also the more these two–especially Harry–sink their teeth into new projects, the less likely they are to want to even come back for even the big events. Remember that even before Meghan, Harry’s always had issues with being able to fully pursue his interests b/c Dull and Duller couldn’t be outworked or outshone. That only worsened with Meghan’s arrival, and I can only imagine how many times they were told “no, you can’t do this”, or “hold off on that idea/project for a while until we give you the green light”. As they continue to establish themselves in the US, that freedom to do whatever they want, whenever they want, is going to be difficult to give up for even partial involvement in the circus act of the monarchy.

      • iconoclast59 says:

        THIS. No way do H&M want to go back to being bossed around by courtiers.

      • Lizzie says:

        H&M also have a lot of obligations that they seem passionate about, i’m not sure how much time they could devote to anything Charles proposes.

  5. BothSidesNow says:

    I am uncertain as to whether Charles was instrumental in Knauf leaving or just a pure circumstance. I doubt very much that Charles forced him to resign as Knauf doesn’t seem to be one who plays well with others but only works under the radar for Baldimort. I am certain though that Charles will keep Baldimort close as he is certainly a risk/threat for Charles.

    • Cecilia says:

      I don’t know if charles was instrumental in knauff leaving. On the one hand im thinking that with him taking over he would want to put william firmly in his place. And one way to do so is firing his right hand man. On the other hand i can see that this might be mainly the crisis managers doing trying to make KP look clean.

      I also don’t think charles truly wants haz&meg back. I simply think he wants people to think that he does. To seem like this loving and unifying father, who’s simply trying to do his best.

      Anyway the fact that we are getting more streamlined pr pieces from charles’ camp does signal to me that he is holding the reins bts.

    • notasugarhere says:

      It may have been legal issues and pressure from Harry and Meghan’s lawyers that ousted Knauff. I’m sure they immediately demanded proof of the bullying allegations, in addition to any other paperwork that showed Knauf’s contact with tabloids and Meghan’s father. Knauf leaving doesn’t mean the end of legal pressure from Harry and Meghan, but it distances any findings from W&K.

      • ➕💯 NOTASUGARHERE. This is just another palace PR spin to take credit for something the Sussexes’ legal team pushed for regarding KNAUF. Same ole, same ole as far as I can see. The Sussexes do the work and the Royals take the credit.

  6. Eurydice says:

    Wooton just writes for the DM; he doesn’t actually read it. Too funny – Outrage! Strip them of their titles! No, wait – so sorry I wasn’t a good dad, please come home, all is forgiven.

    • Jais says:

      Wooton has always seemed to be William’s go to so I’m wondering about this info about Charles coming from Wooton? Does this mean Charles is using Wooton more to get his side out and where does that leave William? I’m hoping it is a sign that Charles is starting to reign in William’s out of control leaking but not sure if that’s just wishful thinking.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Wootten is pro-William, pro-Kate, and close with Knauf from Uni. Whatever he’s doing, it is for himself or those people, not Charles.

    • Liz version 700 says:

      Eurydice Exactly!!!! If they want peace with Harry and his family they need to stop briefing nasty stories against Harry and his family. They are writing stories next to this about stripping his title. No, he isn’t coming back for a King Charles reign, If Charles wanted that he should have answered his child’s calls and not participated in trying to hurt Meghan emotionally and physically. They will be lucky if they get appearances at the Christmas walk…personally I would stay in Sunny CA.

      • Tessa says:

        The bots are now going on about Harry having a “breakdown” and being “brainwashed.” The RF throw him to the wolves and offer NO protection whatsoever. Even before Harry left he was trashed.

      • Christine says:

        I honestly think it would be that simple. Harry and Meghan aren’t monsters, they are in love and very involved in their charity work, which, if the reporters in England were paying attention, they would notice that Harry and Meghan don’t have any need to do charity work, they WANT TO work for the causes they believe in. Let’s be real, they have enough star power between the two of them to never do another second of making this planet a better place, but they WANT TO.

        They are set for life, choosing one or two things to executive produce, a year. They never have to set foot in front of a camera again, but they actually care!

        FFS, royal family, get a clue. Stop leaking stories in the press, and apologize behind the scenes, since you clearly can’t admit anything in public, for some reason.

  7. Noki says:

    Whats up with the poaching of NHS people, are their PR and communications skills suppose to be top notch in UK ?

    • Andrew’s Nemesis says:

      @Noki Given the sheer volume of lawsuits against the NHS on a yearly basis, their crisis managers not only have to be very good, they have to make sure that the bodies stay buried.

      • SarahCS says:

        Plus test and trace is a nightmare mess any way you look at it – performance, budget, press. It’s all bad news.

  8. Izzy says:

    They really haven’t got the message yet, have they? Harry is NEVER going back. They may repair the relationship somewhat, but why would Harry and Meghan go back to that stifling environment when, since they moved, they’ve been able to effect more good than the rest of those freeloading, racist inbreds combined?

  9. Myra says:

    Charles can’t act like all of this was the courtiers’ fault. I will always believe that William and his team started all of this but Charles saw an opportunity to profit off of his son’s pain and he took it. He has never had a backbone to stand up and do what’s right. Not picking up the phone when your child calls is another thing he has in common with Thomas.

  10. S808 says:

    If it was genuine it would’ve happened immediately after Meghan’s letter leaked. I definitely think the crisis managers sent him packing and is playing it up like this was Charles’ doing. 2 birds, 1 stone. Harry’s not coming back in any capacity though. He’s open to a relationship with Charles (I’ll let him live cause I’m privileged to have good parents so I can’t talk about how to navigate that dynamic) but any working relationship is completely off the table. Forever. They’d be dumb to come back for Charles’ reign cause William is up next and he’s the real problem.

    • Cecilia says:

      Exactly. To be frank, there was no future there for meghan and harry anyways. Let say that they had stayed. By the time william takes over the cambs kids are old enough to do the work. What would happen to h&m then? Its a good thing they left when they did. This way they can built their own legacy and leave one for archie and his baby sister. However, now that charles seems to be firmly taking over i do think he plans on doing something about william and kate. I noticed we haven’t had any unhinged cambridge pr puff pieces in a while

    • notasugarhere says:

      I could see them coming back under their original request, part-time and controlling their own work, during the first 10 years of Charles’s reign. Leaving after that.

  11. Woke says:

    All I want from Charles is him to control his heir and to stop the briefing against Harry and Meghan. I always believed Harry and Meghan would have never done the Oprah interview if during the one year review it was only the press attacking them but they clearly saw the palaces were in too.

    • Amy Bee says:

      @Woke: Meghan said as much at the start of the Oprah interview.

    • True says:

      Agree Woke! If it was only the press so much would be different but it’s the family component they won’t tolerate.

  12. Christine says:

    So we are to think that Knauf WASNT doing his dirty deeds under orders from Baldingham? Give.me.a.break!

  13. Cecilia says:

    I find it hilarious that all weekend long royal roaches were screaming at harry for saying that charles might have brought his own past trauma into the upbringing of his sons. And here they are saying that charles knows he wasn’t always the best father.

    As for the sussexes returning, not happening. Not even if they would fire everybody.

    Again, publicly apologize to meghan and we will go from there

  14. Sofia says:

    I would honestly be surprised if Charles actually thinks like this. I doubt he wants Harry back in any capacity (if he did he would not ignore his son’s phone calls and take away his security).

    And if Charles wanted this out there I’m guessing he would go to Jobson or Junor. Not Wootton.

    • lanne says:

      Taking away security and refusing to take their calls was the royals idea of strongarming Harry into coming back. This was some dumbass courtier idea that Charles signed off on. Courtier, who was promoted because his daddy was chief of so and so and grandpa wore a wig in a pciture on a wall, knows jack-all about anything, but he “knows” his lame idea would work.

      Well, their plan backfired and they’ve been running around like headless chickens since then. Where William is concerned, it’s clear to me now that Harry was always the “brains” of his operation, and he’s barely functional without Harry. Whatever is the manifestation of William’s toxicity–anger issues, mental health issues, substance abuse–Harry was there to cover for him. With Harry gone, and with William’s chief flying monkey gone, and I think there will be a lot of pressure on Harry behind the scenes to come back. First, it was “come back without Meghan.” Now, I think it will be “Come back, all of you. It’ll be different this time”

      I hope Harry doesn’t fall for it. Like Admiral Akbar said, “It’s a trap!” These people don’t learn from their mistakes. They want Harry to come back so “everything can be the way it was.”

    • Becks1 says:

      I don’t know about the security (my guess is that was designed to have them realize “oh crap, we can’t make it in the real world, please let us come back” but of course it didnt work) but with the phone calls – I think that was just about Charles being an ostrich and putting his head in the sand. I think he thought if he just ignored the issue that Harry would stop talking about it. I think it was as “simple” as that in Charles’ mind.

    • Emmitt says:

      Charles would only want Harry if Harry and a suitable white wife comes back.

      Charles does not want Harry back if Meghan and the children come back.

      You cannot have Harry back without his wife and children.

      Charles & the Royal Family don’t want Meghan or the children around.

      Therefore Harry isn’t coming back and the royals don’t want him back if that means Meghan and the children are back.

  15. equality says:

    This raises more questions: Was Charles the one who said no half-in deal? Was it because he wanted Harry as full-time or because he thought he could manipulate Harry by cutting him off and he would come back to full time and still being controlled and scapegoated? Charles must be at least partly behind Knauf’s leaving since his spouse is supposed to be getting a diplomatic post. Does this mean if something goes down and Knauf is culpable, he has diplomatic immunity? Does that apply to past actions? I notice he doesn’t touch much on the “bullying” in the article so I wonder if Meghan’s solicitors are applying pressure to see proof and to stop the media from printing false allegations.

    • Andrew’s Nemesis says:

      I bet Philip was the one who said ‘no’ to the half-in-half-out deal. He’d spent the larger part of his adult life walking three paces behind his wife and didn’t see what Harry was going on about, didn’t understand why he simply couldn’t stiffen his upper lip and get on with it, was impatient with what he saw as unreasonable demands. I can hear him chuntering ‘if I could do it, I don’t see what all the bloody fuss is about’.

    • Amy Bee says:

      @Equality: Yes to all your questions.

    • Becks1 says:

      I’ve always thought that William was the one who was opposed to the half-in, half-out deal. He wanted Harry completely under his control with no independence.

      But I do think that Charles thought that if there was no half-in, half-out, that Harry would choose to remain a working royal. I don’t think any of them really thought that Harry would say “okay, then we’re completely out.”

      • notasugarhere says:

        I agree, William was the one who wanted Harry completely under his control. Remember the initial talk of Harry and Meghan getting a separate Household? William and his sources shot back with, it will still remain under KP control and the control of W&K’s staff. QEII and Charles shot back with, it will be under BP and completely separate from W&K’s household.

        William was trying to banish them to ‘Africa’ so they would disappear from headlines and never be any competition to him. I agree, Charles never thought Harry would peace out completely if the half-and-half deal was rejected.

      • Becks1 says:

        @nota that separate household is still very interesting when you look back at it. Things were so bad working with W&K that Charles and the Queen got them out of there. they didnt say “deal with it” or “you two are brothers figure it out.” They agreed to completely separate them. KP must have been a sh!tshow.

  16. Nina says:

    Imagine, Knauf working for M&H, even being their head of staff if I recall? And at the same time undermining them, leaking info on them… Like a wolf guarding sheep. What an awful feeling it must have been for H&M, they trusted Knauf and he was a snake behind their backs.

    Also has anyone noticed how Kate fluff pieces stopped/slowed down after change in Cambridges team?

    • Jais says:

      I think about that too Nina. Truly backstabbing behavior. Meghan was surely nervous but also excited heading into her new life and to have such miserable people do this? And I imagine a new Kate article is on the way fairly soon cuz the embiggening cannot be stopped.

  17. Soupie says:

    So he couldn’t have put his foot down and had the horrible guy fired far, far sooner?? Too little, too late although I’m sure some of them are convinced it’s such a great thing they’ve done.

    • Wiglet Watcher says:

      Anyone could have at least defended The Sussex from Knauf. They all chose to stay silent or contribute.

  18. Amy Bee says:

    Charles funds the Royal Foundation so it wouldn’t surprise me if he did tell William that Knauf had to go. I noticed that Wootton talked about Charles hoping the relationship with Harry would be better by next year. This tells me that Harry is most likely not going to be at the statue unveiling so the palace and press agenda is moving on to getting him to the UK for the Queen’s Platnium Jubilee which will be next year.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Charles doesn’t fund the Royal Foundation, that’s part of why William tried to steal the money Meghan raised with Together. W&K have to fund it themselves through their own pathetic attempts at fundraising.

      Charles (illegally?) topped up the million pound wedding donation for W&K. They weren’t able to raise even a million in donations from the public for their wedding. To cover up that embarrassment, Charles took 250,000 from The Prince’s Trust and donated that to the Foundation.

  19. Digital Unicorn says:

    Some interesting tea thats been spilled, particularly around Knauf’s relationship with the Sussex’s. It pretty much confirms that the Sussex’s knew he was not only leaking to the BM about them but spying on them for the Keens, undermining them whenever he could. Knauf’s loyalties were ALWAYS with the Keens.

    There must have been some serious sh!t that went down between them all.

    • Sid says:

      Well, he definitely tried to sabotage Meghan by bringing in his friend to work as her assistant for the wedding and probably spy on her. In what world does someone whose only work experience is as a nanny get hired to assist with a whole royal wedding? And that’s not a knock on nannies, and there might be some crossover in certain skillsets, but come on. You would need someone who could hit the ground running for an event like that.

  20. Andrew’s Nemesis says:

    Note the repeated use of ‘patriarch’ in relation to Charles.
    And that’s the material point.
    Women of the Queen’s generation cleaved to their husbands and placed all decision making abilities in their hands. (My own grandmother was a case in point: when she suggested that my father should be educated by tutors at home he bellowed: ‘no! He must be sent away to boarding-school!’ And that was that.) While Philip was alive, though increasingly infirm, he made decisions concerning all aspects of the Firm’s welfare, though Charles inserted his knife in little ways – encouraging PaedoAndy to do the disastrous Newsnight interview utterly demolished all of that creature’s hopes. Now Charles is in control, he’s sitting on PWT and Wiglet, letting their (and Ma Middleton) media directed machine run down and out. Paedo has been banished and isolated. New initiatives are coming out each day. And it’s so very convenient for Charles, because now he can not only look like the great Peacemaker but put all the onus of the Palaces’ terrible treatment of Meghan and his son on to the Cambridges’ advisers, lackeys and Philip-era private secretaries. It’s really rather clever.

    • Soupie says:

      It’s about time they started using patriarch. Not that he’s some paragon of virtue. I do see a strategic pattern though, as you said. Build up Billy Boy and then tear him down and put him in his place. Charles ain’t giving up yet even though he’s approaching mid 70′s.

      • what's inside says:

        “Old age and treachery will always beat youth and exuberance.” Taught to Charles at a very early age. He now applies it lavishly.

  21. KW says:

    If most non disclosure agreements last between two and four years, expect a book or some kind of tell all from Knauf because he seems to have a fragile ego and an axe to grind. They may have paid him significantly to go away, but I have a feeling this might get ugly when he’s legally allowed to tell his position. Knauf having his hands dirty and being the mouth piece for WeeWilly and Katie can’t, he must realize that nobody is going to want to hire him for a communications office. I mean, come on. Once he realizes he is on the black list in his career, he will sing like a canary.

    • Izzy says:

      If he does write a book, I think it’ll backfire badly. Confessing that you helped mastermind the gaslighting and abusing Meghan is NOT a good look.

      • lanne says:

        Unless he turns on the royals. “Woe is me I was wrong mea culpa” might sell a lot of copies–everyone loves a reformed sinner.

  22. Lizzie says:

    My view is Meghans lawyers are entitled to see everything to do with a workplace bullying claim. This cannot be claimed as a private family matter it’s all going to be handed over to her lawyers. Clearly they will have to admit there was no substance to the allegation. Now they have to agree on the results, a statement that nothing was found or a statement that Jason waged a campaign against Meghan. They are hoping that getting rid of Jason will either appease Meghan or they will claim he went rogue and they had no idea he was inventing all of it.

    • Kalana says:

      I agree. Charles, William and Kate are covering for themselves. The bullying accusation was a huge mistake.

    • Demi says:

      Handed over to her lawyers and all revealed in legal documents to the public to see if she decided to file for a lawsuit and her recent case win confirmed to them that her lawyers don’t play around.

  23. The Hench says:

    What I find remarkable about all this crap, from pre Oprah interview week on is that what all the palaces seem to be really concerned about is that Harry is talking. They’re not showing any inclination to FIX any of the things that Harry is talking about – the rabid familial dysfunction, the backstabbing, the bullying, the lying, the incandescent rages, the competing PR, Carole running amok, Rose bushes (and probably many other bushes) being tended. No, the issue seems to be that Harry has pulled back the curtain and that’s what they are all mad about.

    I had a very depressing conversation with my FIL yesterday who started on a rant about the Dax podcast and how Harry should shut up and was a disgrace for “whining on”. I pointed out that yes, Harry was talking but a) that he was talking about things everyone knew about Charles’ childhood anyway and b) real crimes appeared to be being committed by Princes Andrew and Michael but yet, because they were only breaking the law as opposed to talking to the media, my FIL seemed to think that was fine and wasn’t complaining about them not being ‘royal.’ Ergo, paedophilia/sex trafficking/treason with the Russians = Royal. Talking to the press = not Royal. The rest of lunch was a bit awkward.

  24. Becks1 says:

    this is such a weirdly reasonable take from DW that I have to wonder what’s really going on behind the scenes, lol.

    Anyone with a grain of sense would know that this war the royals are insisting on with H&M (because its all the royals, H&M are just doing their thing) is a bad look for them, and they are not going to win. A genuine reconciliation would be so much more productive for their image.

    I do think this article confirms that Jason Knauf ‘s leaving wasn’t his idea and he’s the sacrificial lamb here (well not quite bc the lamb is innocent, but you all know what I mean.) DW even says that he should be “enough” for the Sussexes.

    • The Hench says:

      You’re absolutely right @Becks1 that a proper reconciliation would be so much more productive for their image but, to my comment above, being Royal seems to mean not having to say sorry or admit that you are wrong. About anything.

      We know that ‘never complain, never explain’ is not adhered to by either Charles or W+K except when applied to others. Now it seems the new adage is ‘Never talk, never walk’ – and that’s what they are really exercised about in relation to H+M.

    • Jais says:

      Well, they are hoping that firing Jason Knauf is “enough” for the Sussexes and that they won’t follow up on the bullying charges. Which is laughable because Meghan’s lawyers are going to want to know the results of the bullying investigation and will not let up. Meghan is going to want her name publicly cleared so, no, firing Jason will not be “enough.” But now they can publicly blame him if they need to without getting their hands too dirty and that might be enough. Hopefully it will be or the sussexes could go even further and make the connection between Jason, Will and Kate perfectly clear. But hopefully they will reach “enough” before then, according to DW.

      • notasugarhere says:

        And the connection to Wootten, who is a Uni buddy of PoorJason. And to follow up on Christian Jones’s boyfriend who took a payout from Wootten to reveal info about Harry and Meghan.

      • Jais says:

        Wooton is really up in everything whew

  25. Merricat says:

    Getting rid of Knauf is not enough, silly crises managers. It’s performative, since we all know that betrayal doesn’t happen in a vacuum and Knauf was acting at the behest of the Cambridges. I can believe that Charles wants to mend fences with Harry, and it’s true that this ongoing conflict developed and nurtured by the tabs is not productive for the future of the monarchy, such as it is–but I doubt very much that Harry and Meghan are interested in anything but a family connection. Sorry not sorry.

  26. Over it says:

    Sorry, close the windows because Harry ain’t never going back to you. He has a wife and children, he won’t be leaving them for you. So we admit Charles is a bad daddy do we Dan rotten? Funny how Harry is being attacked for speaking the truth . Jason didn’t shit without Baldimort permission so again this all leads back to the keenbridges trying to destroy Megs by any means necessary

  27. Lizzie says:

    If Charles had plans to reconcile with Harry would he not have met with him when Harry was in the country rather than leaving for Wales the day after Philips funeral? As I said above I think it all comes down to the bullying claim. They overplayed their hand, instead of vague rumors Jason produced an email and now they are all trying to distance from him and the allegation.

  28. Curious says:

    well the headline said ”Prince Charles hopes Jason Knauf’s exit will help with a Sussex reconciliation” it can mean to build a father and son relationship. nothing with Harry coming to work as a part time royal alone or with his wife and son. so i guess Charles will try to become a father, a grandfather and father in law relationship to his son Harry and his wife and children. in about 5 yrs he might become king, and he can’t have this hanging over his head of being a bad father. mend bridges and all that ,so he looks good in the public.if he can’t fix his relationship with his son,how can he be a king? when his family life is so messed up. remember Harry have no power to rule anything. Harry only power is he can leave . which he did. its Charles that called the shots that made Harry leave with his wife and son. but Charles was advised by others to make this decision. whoever the courtiers are ,this is the advise they gave to the queen and Charles. when Harry said he had a date with the queen.but the day of the date it was cancelled by the queen people to Harry people. she didn’t call him herself and said sorry we can’t meet. which tells me the courtiers, Charles,William ,when they found out Harry was going to meet the queen, they didn’t want the queen to talk to Harry alone. so they cancelled Harry date with the queen. and the queen made up a story for not seeing the Harry. so she kept the courtiers,Charles and William calm. the queen lied, she knows what she is going to do weeks ahead of any event. one don’t just forget anything that is written on her appointment book. the queen always meet up for all her events .not once in her life have she failed to do so . but this one time she refused to keep an appointment with Harry.(she did cancel a few times cause she had a cold.) but she did not have a cold with her appointment with Harry , she claims according to Harry she had something in her events or appointment book that she forgot.the queen knowing she won’t be seeing Harry in a long time, cancel Harry.she didn’t even have 10 mins for him.

  29. Lowrider says:

    Performance. If Chuck wanted a relationship with his son, he would not have run him out of the country, pulled his security and ignored his calls. Chuck only cares for himself and how he will look to the public.

    • Curious says:

      that was to blackmail Harry. maybe the courtiers thought Harry will be weaken an fight with Meghan. they miscalculated Harry and Meghan love for each other. and the courtiers plan failed.

    • what's inside says:

      Your last sentence is right on the money. It is always about Charles.

  30. Couch potato says:

    The queen didn’t cancel, the courtiers did. From what H&M said about the queen, it’s clear she doesn’t run anything anymore. She steps out and talk to a few people when she’s told to, her days consist of sipping G&T, playing cards with her ladies in waiting and riding.

  31. Curious says:

    Charles is like his parents . they never had time for him .i read a link that someone posted on another site in this forum. when Charles was sick like 4 or 5 times as a child, the queen was too busy to visit him. the worst was ,Charles was so ill in school he was in bed ,and the queen and Pillip never visited him, but the queen wrote him a letter and off she went on some tour. not a care in the world for her children. sometimes i wonder with all the punishment Charles had to go through if they wanted to kill him cause he was a weak boy. its a scary thought but reading what Charles went through it doesn’t shock me. the shock is mothers thinks this is ok. mother emotionally abuse her children to keep her crown. i can’t relate to the queen. no one but me takes care of my children. fathers do too. but its mostly the mother in the early stages. fathers can’t breast feed. they have to work. so mostly in normal life ,no need to wake the father up he has to go to work early. but tables turn for me when my sons was around 14,all of a sudden its their father. everything was about their father. which never bothered me, they was happy. i had them standing with me for 14 yrs ,then they changed in a good way . so for me a mother and a good father i know all will be well. i remember saying to my husband . i miss them hanging out with me,but its your turn now. sports, skiing , handball ,basketball, politics and so on, all of a sudden my sons at different times when they was around 14 decided they want their dad to accompany and advise them. and i stepped back..

  32. MangoAngelesque says:

    I think that, at the very least, Charles wants to be seen as “a father who loves his son, and is trying to make amends, just to begin the conversation toward healing because he cares about his family and not just the Firm,” because of all the years HE spent talking about his austere relationship with his parents. And how positively everyone knew, and had often directly heard, Phillip speak dismissively of Charles.

    So now, if he doesn’t put on the front of caring about his son the way he always talked about wishing his parents had cared for him, he’s got a whole backstory to rewrite.

  33. Vanessa says:

    It looks like Jason will be the ultimate scapegoat for everything’s that went wrong with Meghan and Harry everything’s is being lay out at his feet for the Sussex’s fault out . While William and Kate who I think did the most damage and continue to do will look innocent in the eyes of their fanbase and the British tabloids. Charles is just cleaning up Kensington Palace mess since the lawsuit between Meghan and the daily mail went in Meghan favor trust and believe if Meghan didn’t win her lawsuit Jason would still be there plotting with William and Kate . Since Jason couldn’t follow through with the daily mail he was fired because I’m sure the daily mail would have start coming after Jason and detailing his involvement and spilling the invisible contact. Jason is the one who going to pay the media will blame everything on him .

    • Curious says:

      Jason had his orders from his boss.If Meghan pursue this to get the bottom of why was the royals trying to make her into a black angry woman,she will win her case. the ones that was fired that said bad thigs , they should be investigated ,Jason should be investigated for lying and making false accusation.Jason did not do everything on his own.his boss ordered him. Jason had the tools to work against Meghan father ,cause Meghan father was every where on tv.so jason was not protecting Meghan or her father. he must have been paid well. Jason pretended to help Meghan father,i think Jason actually encourage Meghan father. since Meghan and her father was not talking daily cause of what he started to do .Jason felt safe.cause info between them will not happen. Meghan already had 8 million dollars when she met harry. she was living a quiet life. but none of her white half siblings demanded money from her. when she met harry her father all of a sudden wanted his biracial daughter to support him. my point is no one asked Meghan to support her half white siblings .her father never asked her to support him. he moved a long time ago. got nothing to do with Meghan. but all of a sudden it seems the family she hardly knew wanted the royals to pay for homes and give then an allowance to live on. don’t forget , her half white sister give birth to her first child like a yr after Meghan was born. so that half sister had her man and was married and had 2 children. her first husband had full custody of his children. they are adults now. they are never in the press.

      • notasugarhere says:

        His boss being The Other Brother, not Charles.

      • Emmitt says:

        Meghan was already financially supporting Bad Dad. I suspect Bad Dad was financially supporting Jailbird Jr. and Scum out of what Meghan was giving to him. When she started dating/affianced to Harry, the Toxic 3 thought they hit the jackpot. They thought they’d have their cake and eat it too with the double payments of Meghan’s money plus the tabloid money but IMO Harry had the Bank of Meghan closed down after the wedding stunt.

        It’s only a matter of time before it’s confirmed Knauf/KP paid Bad Dad to stop that wedding.

  34. Miranda says:

    I say this as someone who was raised by a single dad (with whom I have a very close relationship, so this is thankfully completely hypothetical for me): If my dad ever ghosted me, as Charles did to Harry, then tried to reconcile, I would tell him to f–k off forever and ever, amen. There would be no forgiveness for that. Never. But Harry seems to have a soft heart, and I think he does miss individual members of his family (he clearly loves his grandparents, for example. and it was probably painful for him that he was unable to see his grandfather before he died). And I get the impression that he’s kind of a peacemaker. If he does choose to forgive his father, I hope he takes it slow and makes it clear that he was deeply hurt by Charles’s actions and inactions.

    (Of course, all of that is void if Charles was the one who made disparaging remarks about the race of Harry’s wife and son. Something like that might be impossible to forgive.)

    • notasugarhere says:

      Rewatch the Oprah interview. Carefully watch Meghan’s face when Harry talks about Charles and William. Harry wanting a relationship with Charles is okay with her. The ‘space’ comment about the William relationship? Clear to me, watching Meghan’s face during that, that William is the villain here.

  35. MerlinsMom1018 says:

    I have said it before and I will say it again:
    Charles is no fool despite what people think. He’s been around palace messiness his whole life, he knows what, where, when, who and why. He’s playing the long game here and when he becomes king, then his hands are no longer tied and that’s when everyone will see who he really is. Camp Cambridge should be making alternate plans.
    Not giving Charles any excuses for what has been made obvious and public, he deserves all the bad press he gets and more, just saying he’s very good at being patient. He’s had years to practice it

    • L4frimaire says:

      Unfortunately Charles does not have time on his side. He’s already in his 70s, so even on the thrones many will be looking to William. He’ll have to move quickly.

      • Tessa says:

        I don’t see that. He let William oust Harry and allowed the fake stories about Meghan to flourish. One phone call by Charles to KP would have sent Kate to the phone to deny the crying stories.

  36. Noor says:

    Really Prince Charles I don’t understand why he is so embittered over Prince Harry and Meghan stepping back from royal life. He should have wholeheartedly supported their desire to earn their own living in addition to carrying out royal duties as the Queen had done for her Prince Michael of Kent.

    • Emmitt says:

      He’s embittered because he knows Like and Subscribe are bums. Harry was the one who came up with the ideas and put them into action. Now with Harry gone, the world will see that Cain and Unable are lazy, worthless layabouts. Meghan had to go because she was opening Harry’s eyes to how the bums were using him up (to later discard him when he was of no use).

      That’s why Charles is embittered.

  37. Amy Too says:

    This article is bizarre in that it seems like the press, or the family, or the new crisis managers for the firm are slowly starting to validate the things that Harry and Meghan said were happened to them. They spent years screaming that they were super welcoming and everyone tried super duper hard to do everything Meghan wanted and needed, and no one was mean to her, and no one leaked, and the Sussexes are just bratty, mean, paranoid, selfish, crazy people and now:

    “…very aware of the bitterness between Harry and Meghan and many of the senior staff who were in post during their time in the Family after their wedding.” Between, meaning back and forth, reciprocal. Not “bitterness of Harry and Megan TOWARDS staff” which is what it always was before. Also “after their wedding,” and not “everything was fine until the Oprah interview when Harry started hating us for no reason.”

    “Another insider explains: ‘Things turned very sour between the Sussexes and Knauf once their operations were split with the Cambridges. They felt they could no longer trust him.” Again, BETWEEN, reciprocal sourness because the Sussexes couldn’t trust Knauf. Not “because the Sussexes were paranoid and ridiculously thought that everyone was out to get them” anymore.

    “…to lead their media operations in what is seen as a sea change from the more combative Harry and Meghan era.” A SEA CHANGE!? So we’re saying out loud now that the Sussexes need to be treated and handled by the palace’s own media operations in the completely opposite (sea change) way from how they were treated/handled before? And the “before” way is described as “combative.” The palace’s own media operations were “combative” when it came to the Sussexes. That’s a bit of a bombshell to let out.

    What is going on here? Are they testing out what happens if they maybe quit going with “All Gaslighting, All the Time” and instead try “They’re Right, Our People Actually Were Jerks to Them?” I’m all for that. And I think it would be a smart strategy. Blame it on the courtiers, the Knaufs and the Joneses of the institution, and how they were too insistent on following all the old ways: the stiff upper lips, the never complain or explain, the spare must always serve the heir or be beat into submission, the fear of anything emotional or honest or new, and then wax poetic about how now that Charles is taking charge, a change is being made, people are being treated more humanely, as family members first, or whatever. I wouldn’t believe it at all, but other people might, and it works better than trying to get the entire world to sustain constant, nonsensical, fire-hot levels of rage towards Harry and Meghan that are based on lies and twisted half truths that immediately lead to the BRF facing ridicule and scorn on social media and in the American press.

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      Amy Too, what we haven’t discussed is the US media. I think there is a component about how the brf will be reported on going forward. The BM has proven to be highly problematic by the US media, partly because they’ve been outed, and partly because people hit back hard when a credible new source here decide to continue the lies of the BM. I can see where that would definitely need to be addressed by Charles if he wants to have good press here in future.

  38. Janethetrain says:

    Not sure how he feels privately, but this is finally a smart pr move. Charles went tit for tat with Diana and it didn’t work great. Everyone knows they weren’t the best parents. And Harry is giving him an out by saying it was the way Charles was raised too. The only thing Charles needs to do is seem to have open arms and kindness. His hands are not as dirty as KP’s.

    How else is Charles going to get the viewership numbers that Harry and Meghan are going to get? By stopping at KP’s Prestige Worldwide productions?!?

    • Tessa says:

      The problem was Charles went into the marriage to get heirs. Married someone 12 years younger and expected her to tolerate his lifestyle. Plus he did not love her as he later confessed to Dimbleby. A recipe for disaster. If he wanted children he needed to put family first. He did not. He did try to be more hands on than his parents. Diana was hands on. I don’t think they were “bad parents.” The dynamics of the heir and spare were dysfunctional. William was coddled, Harry was scapegoated. This was the pattern. William was allowed by Charles to oust Harry from the family. He also allowed WIlliam to sulk and get his way. A mess all around.

  39. Athena says:

    I think Harry and Meghan would lose a lot support if they went back. There are people of color who have commented in some YouTube channels that they are uncomfortable with the fact that Meghan was willing to work for the BRF to begin with. The constant attacks on her made some put that aside and show support, if she were to go back some support would be lost.

    As for Harry, sometimes a person stays in a job longer than they should because that’s all they know or made to feel inadequate, the fear of failure. And when they finally leave, change jobs and realize that they are happy and thriving, there’s no going back. Harry now knows that he is okay outside of that family, I don’t see him going back.

  40. Lizzie says:

    Most parents I know go to pains not to overly criticize the kids dates/partners. First that often makes them more determined to stay with the person. Second if they get married and have kids suddenly everyone remembers you didn’t like the spouse and every remark you made when they were dating so good luck seeing your grandkids. I thought this was universally acknowledged. Wage a public smearing of your son/brother’s wife and you create a bond between them that is unbreakable. I guess the gold standard advisors know better, oh wait no they don’t the whole thing blows up in their faces almost daily.

  41. Christine says:

    “At the end of the day, above everything else, family always comes first.”

    Almost every single sentence on the history of the British Monarchy belies this point. It would be more accurate if he had said, “at the end of the day, duty comes first”, because that has been His Majesty The Queen’s effing motto, for her entire life. Who is this mess trying to convince? The short answer has to be England, because I cannot for the life of me imagine anyone else reading this and nodding in agreement.

  42. Brittany says:

    It’s going to be funny when we get to the stage of the game where Charles and Will are shocked — shocked — to find out that gambling is going on here. What!! My own secretary was leaking to the press! My gawd had I but known!

  43. Lizzie says:

    Charles needs to straighten out the military uniform ban for Harry. When the queen dies and all these men with no or little military expert show up with medals and braids and Harry’s is wearing a black suit, the world will ridicule them.

  44. Pat says:

    The whole situation was /is unnecessary and absolutely disgusting on the part of All involved, from KP, to CH and BP as well as the wife beating weed growers comments and his sisters involvement. The 3 guy’s that already left to work in other positions as well as Knauf, Wooten and the boyfriend’s involved, the siblings and all. They are All disgusting. Charles is worse because he is the father but he’s right there beside Baldy on dirty deeds. Kate’s a lazy, jealous, desperate airhead that does whatever she’s told. The queen is past retirement, they should retire her and let Charles get on with it. Andrew is a pervert and there’s a lot of other ugly secrets to this family. Harry was being truthful when he said he’s seen behind the curtain and he doesn’t want any parts of it. Harry has enough knowledge about his family’s dirt that it would be a problem if he went public with everything. He wouldn’t do it though, he’s still got a certain amount of loyalty to his family, grandmother’s legacy and the institution in general. However, that would be a fantastic read if he would just tell everything about the situation and definitely about Baldilocks. I don’t believe Baldilocks has only cheated with Rose and I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s got an illegitimate child. I also believe there’s truth to the man in Australia claiming to be Charles and Camel face son. There’s a lot of secrets, some may be dark enough to destroy the monarchy all together