You know how Prince Andrew was just sued for sexually abusing Virginia Roberts Giuffre in federal court? You know how the Windsors have been in a blind panic all week because of it? Yeah, no surprise that the Windsors and their media henchmen are doing the most to deflect from Andrew. That order is coming from every palace – it’s one of the few things that Buckingham Palace, Clarence House and Kensington Palace can agree on whenever they’re in crisis: trump up some dumbf–k scandal or controversy about the Duchess of Sussex. All week, we’ve been hearing about Barack Obama’s birthday party and how Meghan and Harry were “snubbed” from being invited. That was on purpose, that was what the Windsors wanted you to look at.
Now they organized something new: Thomas Markle is being trotted out, yet again. Thomas has been busy in recent months, and I guess he’s collecting paychecks wherever he goes. 60 Minutes Australia interviewed him just as Meghan gave birth to Lili Diana. Then he was trotted out to announce his plans to “sue” Harry and Meghan to visit their children. Then on Meghan’s birthday, Toxic Tom “sent roses” to Meghan and told TMZ all about it. Last night, Toxic Tom did an interview with Dan Wootton of all people. The quotes from Thomas sound like they were written out for him by Wootton. I’m sure they were:
On sending Meghan roses: ‘I wished her a happy birthday and brighter days ahead but I’ve not heard back.’
Blaming Harry: ‘I’m blaming Harry for this mostly. Harry has this saying: If you look at the paparazzi, you’re done. I’m surprised Harry never bothered to come and visit me, or ask for my daughter’s hand in marriage. I was lying in hospital, talking to them from hospital, telling them I couldn’t come to wedding and they haven’t talked to me since. You’re a parent and your child’s in hospital, wouldn’t you be concerned if they live or die? They don’t answer or respond in any way shape of form. She’s [Meghan] changed, she’s not the daughter I knew. My daughter was a much more loving person than she is now.’
His grandchildren: ‘I call her Lili, that’s my Lili. It’s the perfect name for her. But, I don’t think Lilibet is necessary, Lili is the perfect name. I’d like to see her, I’d dearly like to see her. I want to hold her, same with Archie. We shouldn’t be punishing [Lili] for Meghan and Harry’s bad behavior. Archie and Lili are small children. They’re not politics. They’re not pawns. They’re not part of the game. And they’re also royal and entitled to the same rights as any other royal.… I will be petitioning the California courts for the rights to see my grandchildren in the very near future.’
On Meghan’s lies: ‘She lied, she has been lying for years… lying about the Archbishop, how can you lie about the Archbishop? Her lies are so obvious I don’t know why she says them.’
On attacking the Queen: Thomas also described the action of Meghan and Harry, in particular the effect it could be having on The Queen as ‘unforgivable’. ‘Both Meghan and Harry are attacking the Royal Family. What they’re doing to The Queen is unforgivable. It’s embarrassing that they’re doing this. Harry’s saying he’s reclaiming his mental illness is a joke. You don’t spend three hours on television talking about it, you speak with a psychiatrist quietly.’
Yeah, Dan Wootton wrote out a script and Thomas Markle performed it for money. They were able to throw this together pretty fast, huh? Not that it takes that long to write this sh-t out for Tom and negotiate his payment for selling out his daughter. Wootton has long been one of Prince William’s go-to columnists, so now I wonder why William even wants the focus on Meghan and her toxic father right now? Surely William would be happy enough to let the focus be on Prince Andrew and how Andrew shouldn’t be allowed to stay at Royal Lodge? William steps on his own sh-tty messaging all the time though, so this tracks.
Photos courtesy of 60 Minutes Australia.
Of course, they could throw this together pretty fast. At this point they have the lines memorized. “I call her Lili” – really, he’s nauseating.
I am Meghan supporter but I don’t understand how H&M can say Betty is a nice person…. it is like a company in SP500 screwing up and people blaming everyone but the CEO.
If the rf was a company, Betty would have been fired for incompetence a long time ago….ok not my country, so not my problem! they should leave Meghan Markle alone!
I wish H&M (I suspect it is mostly H who named LiliDi and Meghan who named Archie) had never given Lilibet as a name to their daughter!
VS – My theory is that going after Betty is a step too far. She’s an institution, an icon, and a grandmother. Also, Harry clearly has a deep affection for her. Named his daughter after her nickname.
Well, I don’t like Betty, but to be fair H&M have never come out to say she’s a great political leader or something.
I mentioned this in another post but when you are a victim of abuse growing up you sometimes adapt people-pleasing behaviors to the person you think will protect you the most. I can absolutely see this being the case with Harry for the Queen in that family.
In any case how he feels about his grandmother is his business and using a sentimental nickname is their business.
It’s being exposed more and more how crappy her leadership is anyway. They don’t really have to do anything more to aid that and if they did so it would put even more of a target on their backs. She’ll pass soon, so I don’t blame them if they’re not willing to die on that hill.
I agree with you both but they (mostly H) didn’t need to name LiliDi after Betty
Anyway, you are both right. It is not a hill they should waste their time on. Hopefully, the name LiliDi is the one she goes by or just Lili….people will forget that it is really Lilibet.
How do you know it was mostly Harry that had a say in the naming of their daughter? Are you saying Meghan had no say in the matter? These two have a lot of love and respect for each other and I am sure Harry AND Meghan had a say in the naming. It’s clear they both have love and affection for the Queen and they are the ones that really know what is going on, not us.
@Ginger — I said “I suspect” H for LiliDi and Meghan for Archie…..
Archie — no connection to those people. If only Lili had been called just Diana + ….
Because Betty hasn’t been hands on involved in the running of the firm in at least a decade. It’s pretty clear she’s simply been a figurehead for a long time.
She is of course 95 years old.
And she can’t be fired, monarchs are monarchs for life. Especially with the dunce Charles as the next option. That’s no option at all, thus we have what we see now.
Harry explained this. He has separated his grandmother, the person from the Crown, the institution. No matter what anyone says, it’s the men in grey who are calling the shots there. She is a figurehead that they need to keep nice and lily white for generations and generations to come. If you believe this ninety something year old person is making decisions, you have been fooled!
Don’t recall H&M saying TQ was nice, but it was clear from the Oprah interview they respect and have warm feelings towards her. What Harry did say was, she had bad advisors.
My impression is from at least around 2017, when TQ had turned 90, Philip retired from public duties, and Charles (apparently with Andrew’s help) managed to dislodge TQ’s private secretary Christopher Geidt and replace him with Edward Young, Charles has been taking over duties and solidifying his position as the power behind the throne. Not unexpected for the heir to a monarch in her 90’s, but since then it appears HM has had less and less influence and is possibly more at the mercy of the *advisors* that surround her. Thus, we semi-jokingly talk about the possibility of burner phones when she talks to Harry; that she appears NOT to have shared her agreement with Lili’s name with the staff around her; and seems to have driven herself over to see Harry at Frogmore when he was last in England. IIRC, we’ve also had some discussion here about who was really behind things like preventing the wreath being laid for Harry for Remembrance Day, etc.
That’s not to say HM was ever a model for effective leadership during her years on the throne, just that it looks like something else has been going on for at least the last few years, that Harry is well aware of.
ETA: saw when I posted this I’m not the only one thinking along these lines! I do think dumping Geidt though was pivotal in terms of clearing the way for Charles to seriously start doing things his way.
Russell Brand, on his you tube channel, gave an excellent and insightful discourse on the queen and the royal family, their various roles, and their interactions with the UK citizens. He described the Queen as “unassailable.” Its really worth a listen in my opinion, if you’ve not done already. It’s from March 10, 2021 and titled Russell Brand reacts to Harry and Meghan Interview.
@ Windyriver: must agree with your thoughts 100% regarding the ousting of Lord Geidt. He apparently held too tightly to the reigns of power to suit Charles, and too tightly to the the purse strings to suit Andrew. Not to mention, he allegedly got Andrew removed as trade ambassador due to his Epstein association. I also read that he urged 500 royal staff to stand united with the queen which really pissed off Charles. There are several very informative articles on this subject if one has the time to Google them. The consensus is that losing Geidt was the biggest mistake she ever made. Of course, she did bring him back briefly in 2019 to “keep an eye on Meghan Markle.”
They say she’s a nice person most likely for diplomatic reasons. Everything starts and stops with the Queen and they know that as long as they lift her the dogs won’t go after them full force. It’s a clever defense move
@QwietStorm, I did some googling though Celebitchy royal archives work too. The 2017 articles are interesting reads and Geidt was considered a great loss.
Most of the 2019 stories about Geidt’s return can be traced/sourced back to a Robert Lacey DM article. Knowing what we know now, Geidt being brought back in January 2019 as The Queen’s Lord-in-Waiting, as you say to ‘keep an eye on Meghan Markle’, takes on a different meaning than what members of the rota were suggesting.imo It was January 16, 2019 that Harry & Meghan went to the Royal Albert Hall and from the Oprah interview, we are aware of what was going on with Meghan at that time in addition to the smear campaign bs from W&K/KP.
It seems that some of what Lacey wrote in his book(from his site Oct. 5, 2020-Queen had secret plan-Lacey was also being quite shady about Meghan’s work) was to counteract the Times of London story that was beautifully addressed here at Celebitchy April 2019. So much of that post and Kaiser’s last sentence still stands today.
“And yes, motherf&ckers, WE SEE YOU. We see what you’re doing.”.
https://www.celebitchy.com/618084/are_the_cambridges_trying_to_have_harry_meghan_exiled_to_another_country/
He calls her “my Lili” and yet all he does is disparage and abuse her mother, his own child. He truly is a sick individual with an inflated sense of entitlement who willingly ran to the tabloids. I am glad that the glitter of the royal family has worn off. The world sees them for the dysfunctional and truly abhorrent family they truly are.
This. Thomas was given a script but he truly believes it all. He is entitled to whatever he wants because he wants it.
Oh look, I am the most loving grandpa. I just want to hold my grandchildren in my right hand while I use my left hand to run a knife through their parents.
He is making sure that he will never see these children as long as he lives and the only person he can blame for this is himself.
Toxic Tom the toilet dweller
It seems that Lili has become the new ‘golden child’ as far as Toxic Tom is concerned – he has transferred his ‘affections’ from his daughter to his royal grand daughter which means that poor child is now the focus of his delusions.
He calls her “my Lilli” when he’s never seen her and most likely never seen a picture of her. Okay then.
@digitalunicorn you make an excellent point. The press and royal family will take against Lili even more than they will Archie as this seems to be the fate of females they consider to be outsiders. If she happens to look like Meghan, she will be in for it big time with this disgusting creature Thomas leading the charge.
Saying “my Lili” is the single most concerning thing out of his mouth in years. It’s disturbed and shows he feels a narcissistic ownership of the child. He should never be allowed to ever even met her.
(We thankfully know he’ll never get near her even if he sues for grandparents rights. H&M’s family status don’t qualify for him to get them and all his personal history- all his past drug use, gambling debts, his children’s constant arrests, his children’s stalking of Meghan- all would be admissible in court as to his character.)
Honestly even if I couldn’t stand Meghan I would be so tired of this asshole by now. All he does is repeat himself, contradict himself, and ramble the same nonsense every few months. He clearly knows nothing more about Meghan than any one of us here, and I have no idea why these rags pay him like he’s some sort of catch who will bring in ratings or new information. It’s so stupid.
Aren’t even her detractors sick of this repetitive nonsense by now?
Narcissists do this. Meghan is now the bad daughter and Lili is his new Golden Child. May he be kept faaaaaarrrrr away from her.
This guy, TT, is so deluded I don’t even know where to start. First of all, that nonsense about how Harry should have come meet him before wedding. Harry can only do that w/ the cooperation & guidance of his fiancee – you know, the one who has an established relationship w/ TT. The fact that M kept away from him, tells you everything about their relationship when she was grown. This also puts to rest the idea that Meg and her terrible father had a good relationship before she met Harry. In the 1-1/2 yr before wedding, Meg arranged for Harry to meet & spend time w/ her mom but H never managed to meet her dad. (And may I just roll my eyes extra hard at his insistence on an independent, adult woman whose been earning her own living, in a diff. country no less, & prev. married – needing his (TT’s) permission! Also, I noticed that TT managed to make it seem like illness was what kept him from attending the wedding. I haven’t forgotten that when the scandal over TT’s fake photos & using M for tabloid $ got SO overwhelming he tried to play his “I’m an old, sick man” card for more sympathetic coverage and to change the subject. In that way, TT is sort of like the BM which keeps pretending that the tension between the RF and M&H was only due to the Oprah interview, not the way the RF have treated M for years. This guy, how much do I dislike him? Let me count the ways. OMG.
So Meghan is a liar, but it’s all Harry’s fault, and Thomas still desperately wants to be in their lives? Suuuuure.
Yeah, what happened to the narrative that evil manipulative Meghan had led Harry astray?
They can’t even get their script straight. The rotten one’s prints are all over the interview. He’s not saying something we’ve not heard before. Difference is, it’s backfiring spectacularly and confirming the palaces’ deflection from Andrew’s guilt.
It seems like he flubbed a lot of his lines.
“If you’re a parent and your child’s in hospital wouldn’t you want to see them?” Ummm… you are the parent. You wanted your child to come see you.
“ I was lying in hospital, talking to them from hospital, telling them I couldn’t come to wedding…” In America, we say “the hospital” as opposed to in England where they just say “hospital.” But also what is “I couldn’t come to wedding”? It should be “the wedding.”
“Harry’s saying he’s reclaiming his mental illness…” Does he mean “mental health”? I don’t think anyone reclaims their “mental illness.”
Was this a televised interview or was it just written? Because if it was just written, they really should have fixed his quotes. This is stupidly bad.
Because Meghan is a wicked, evil sorceress, who used her fatal, womanly wiles to lure the hapless Harry away from his family and his true destiny. Or so her detractors would have us believe.
Thomas Markle proves, once again, that you can’t polish a turd.
I’ll see myself out.
they have made Meghan more powerful and famous than she would have been, had they left her alone….at this point, it seems to obvious that only the racists would fall for this nonsense
This is SO true. If they were still “working senior royals” I’m sure Meghan would be keeping busy and doing great work, but her work would have to be focused much more narrowly on UK and Commonwealth, which would have been something of a constraint. She would probably also have been doing a lot more of the bread and butter engagements which are pretty ho-hum. If the press had just kind of left her alone or just given neutral coverage of her events she would be much less of an icon than she’s become.
Exactly THIS! They did it to Diana and now they are running around like headless chickens once again at the thought of this black woman now becoming a more powerful brand than theirs. She is the future and they will be consigned to history.
Dan W wants a pic of Lilli and still to act like lilibet was inappropriate for a mixed race child. Obviously wootten wrote this bc Americans don’t say in hospital. This is so sad
There’s absolutely no doubt that KP paid Meghan’s father to stop the wedding. William may want to get rid of Andrew but he also wants the press and the public to stop talking about him. He still has to protect the monarchy so of course he would get Wootton to trot out the sperm donor.
I’m really curious and confused about the pre-wedding period. So was Jason Knauf the one talking to her dad at that time? Also, did he actually go the hospital and have surgery or not? I’ve read comments here that he was faking it but then he goes on tv and says he was in the hospital again. Shouldn’t it be easy to prove? Is it that he went to the hospital but wasn’t really that sick?
Jason Knauf was his KP contact pre wedding (and clearly post wedding). The day after he was “released” from the hospital he was photographed at McDonalds and, squadies remind me, didn’t he drive from his Mexico home to his California home that day too? Not the actions of a man on the verge of death. He may have had a stent put in around that time, but evidence for his having a heart attack is nil. I recall some bogus, debunked hospital bill being spread around the internet by TOD.
All a sham. As are his claims that they never reached out. We’ve all seen the frantic texts Meghan was sending him in the run up to the wedding.
As part of court case he submitted evidence that he had stents put in presumably at a hospital but tabloids covered him out and about fairly quickly afterwards which is why Meghan had no concern on that score as he was well enough to speak to TMZ but NOT to her! Jason Knauf was then working for her liaising with bad dad hence he knew all about the letter.
While I agree that the BRF were paying him to embarrass Meghan to the point where Harry called of the wedding, I think the plan came from CH and BP.
@GuestWho. There is no way that man even had a stent put in around the time he claimed he was in the hospital.
My brother is 40 years younger than Tom and had a stent put in. He was not even allowed to drive for nearly two weeks after his operation. He had to wait until his followup visit with his doctor two weeks to be cleared to drive. Let alone drive from the hospital.
Lying in the hospital? I don’t think so. Most probably lying on his sofa, inhaling a bag of hamburgers and chasing it with a bottle of Jack Daniels. And mentally counting the money the BRF was going to pay him for stopping the wedding.
He most probably shit a brick when the wedding did go through because he knew what he had lost.
I find it bizarre that he expected Meghan and Harry to come rush to his side at the hospital days before their massively huge, televised wedding, in another country, that required a ton of planning and preparation and likely rehearsals in the days leading up to it. That seems like an obvious ploy to get the wedding at least postponed. But he did a really bad job of trying to get them there since he refused to respond to any of Meghan’s texts and wouldn’t return any of her or Harry’s calls to tell them which hospital he was in, what was going on, how long he’d be there, and what he needed or wanted from them. If he was trying to stop or postpone the wedding, he did a bad job of it.
It’s almost like he was told by the BRF and Jason to do this whole heart attack thing and try to get Meghan over there so she’d have to cancel the wedding, but he didn’t *actually* want the wedding to be canceled because he wanted his daughter to be married into the family so he could get the perks of being related to them.
It’s like he was playing his odds with both sides. Like he knew the BRF didn’t want this wedding and that there was a possibility that they would break Harry and Meghan up, so if he could get some money/perks from helping them, he was going to do that. But there was the other possibility that the wedding would happen anyways and Meghan and Harry would make it as a couple, and if that was the case, the money and perks would be ever greater. So he played both sides while he waited it out to see what would happen. Pretending to be on the RF’s side so that if the plan worked, he could get his compensation and they would be indebted to him. But not playing his part fully or very well because what he really wanted was to capitalize off of his daughter being married to a Prince. But because he’s a greedy opportunist, he ALSO played with the press and tried to get some money and perks from that side as well as a sort of third hustle.
In the end, probably because he got greedy and tried to capitalize on the press interest in him, he’s pissed off the 2 main sides and now they’re both mad at him and he’s not getting any perks of financial support from the RF or from Meghan and Harry. And all because he tried to play every single angle and side he could. Now he’s stuck with the only side that will still deal with him: the press. And stupidly for him, they are the side where he has to give the most to get the least. He had to give up his relationship with his daughter and any chance at a future relationship with her husband, children, and royal in laws. He had to give up his reputation as he went from being “Meghan’s beloved father, the lighting director, who would buy multiple sets of Barbie families in different colors so that he could create a Barbie family that looked like hers. The man she wants to walk her down the aisle on live television” to “sloppy looking, sweaty, idiotic, sell out looking to make money off his daughter by working with the exact same racist, evil, ridiculous tabloid press that made her suicidal.” He had to give up his anonymity and any sense of privacy as everyone now recognizes and hates him. People know the name of Sophie’s father, or could find it by looking it up, but he’s still able to go out in the world without being recognized and when people meet him for the first time they’re starting off with a neutral opinion of him. Thomas Markle doesn’t have that anymore. He has a lot of baggage tied to his name and image and everyone has an opinion, probably negative, of him. The people that might like him are the type of hateful racist, anti-diversity Nazis who would HATE the multi racial Barbie family story. And all for what? Some intermittent payouts now and then that he has do terrible things for? And he’s beholden to these tabloids for life, now. He can’t stop. They will expose him and turn on him if he doesn’t do and say exactly what they want. And they will make him look as flubby, gross, lazy, and embarrassing as possible while doing it because that’s what sells and will presumably upset Meghan.
Frankly, I’m *still* a bit surprised he didn’t try and crash the actual ceremony at the last minute after all the other stunts didn’t work. I mean, I *know* there was a LOT of security, but by then EVERYONE knew her father by then, and I can’t believe they wouldn’t’ve let him through….?
Then again, I’d’ve paid good money to the charity of H&M’s choice to see Bad Dad being dragged off the grounds yelling M’s name (á la “The Graduate”).
He was paid to stay home deliberately and thus the heart attack story was invented. Never happened.
The interesting thing is that Thomas never spoke to the press while Harry and Meghan dated and for most of their engagement. When he did those stupid pap photos before the wedding is when he went downhill. I would bet everything I have that KP put him up to those pap photos and his “heart attack” to try and stop the wedding.
This is disgusting. It’s gross how they weaponize her father like this.
Let’s focus on Andrew, the sex offender, and not Meghan, who has every right to decide who her children interact with as they grow up.
While I don’t doubt it’s happened in the past, in this instance, I don’t think KP or the royals have anything to do with it and it’s just fortunate timing for them. Nobody in the UK watches 60 minutes. We don’t have it here, and other than the tabloids, nowhere is even going to report about this interview.
The tabloids do enough damage on their own. And I really don’t think DW would reach out to Markle without KP’s approval.
I agree Meghan probably did change, but it didn’t happen when she met Harry, I bet it’s been happening gradually over the years as she grew up and became wise to the fact that her father is a disgusting, disgraceful leach who wanted to suck her cry of money and emotions. I am so grateful she open her eyes to what a total waste of oxygen he is
Meghan is not the one profiting by running to the media to slander him..
I wish all headlines were as honest about it as they are here..
“THOMAS MARKLE WAS TROTTED OUT FOR AN INTERVIEW TO DEFLECT FROM PRINCE ANDREW”
🎯💯%.
No she didn’t. There’s a video of her telling her friend that she and her dad don’t really get on. He’s always been as ass. She has been so gracious to him, sending him money and being the only one of his children to regularly visit his mother when she was in a home. Meghan has rightly cut him off. He’s a destructive parasite.
It also astounds me that even though Harry has been underrated for his entire life, that anyone who watched that engagement interview would think for even a second that he would call off the wedding out of “embarrassment” due to a few trashy family members of Meghan’s. It’s like none of them ever bothered to truly get to know Harry at all until Meghan came along.
“Why didn’t Harry ask my permission to marry the daughter I couldn’t be bothered with until right just now?”
“MY Lili”?!
Is this what an aneurysm feels like? Fuck off, Tom. Fuck alllll the way off, and then keep going.
The entitlement is off the charts. How many times has MM said she just wanted him to stop? He just keeps going and going, I want to be in her life but she’s a liar, suing to see the kids he has no rights too. If he had just stayed away from reporters and supported his daughter he would probably be in their lives. He clearly doesn’t actually want to be, he just wants money and attention. Its sick.
My father is very similar. He whines about not being in my families life, but I lived near him for years and he made no effort. He calls my sister once a week and goes to visit her once a year even though she lives across the country from us. The only time he’s been to my house in the five years since my husband build it for us was when he came and stayed overnight. I think he got the impression we were uncomfortable (which we were). I told him day visits are good but i have no spare rooms at the time because the basement was unfinished. He said he couldn’t come out unless he could stay because he wouldn’t be able to have a drink and drive home. I specifically remember him being mad at me one Christmas, it was the first time I had seen him that year and he got mad that I hadn’t called him on his birthday two months earlier. But I had turned sixteen earlier that year in April and never heard a sound from him. I actually cared back than about celebrating because I was young. He was middle aged and whining to his teen daughter about not having his birthday acknowledged. 17 years later and I’m still speechless about it.
Sorry for the rant but its something I dont talk about with friends or family because i cry too easily and I hate wasting emotions on him. Its easier to vent to strangers here than say these things out loud.
Thomas is a malignant and grandiose narcissist. He can’t believe that Meghan didn;t stop her wedding for him. He is also grieving the loss of the regular money she used to send him as well as his inability to get to her and control her. Cutting him off completely was exactly the right move. He will lash out with more and more outrageous lies till the day he dies especially as he knows he has an audience. I know his type so well.
Don’t apologize for your rant, do what you need to do to express what you feel in a way that is safe and healthy for you, and if that means getting it out in a comment on CB, then so be it
Carry on @Bryn, it is so hard dealing with toxic and manipulative people, particularly when they’re a parent. Personally as the child in the equation I carry so much guilt that I walked away but as with your examples I remind myself of all the times when he just didn’t bother, put himself first, etc. and I make my peace with it.
Asking anybody’s permission to marry when she was an adult woman able to make up her own mind is gross anyway.
Right? He doesn’t own her, why would Harry need or even want his permission?
Then he said Harry did ask, over the phone. So he is just pissed that 1. He didn’t have a recording device set up then and 2. he was denied a photo he could have sold
And the my Lili BS? He is never ever getting near those kids. And he shouldn’t.
My favorite quote from my own dad is from when my future husband rang him about asking me to marry him – he said “what are you asking me for”? I had to laugh when I heard about it. Not that I doubted he knew his daughter.
What. Why did Harry need his permission. I understand the traditional thing. He has never said that her first husband came and asked for her hand in marriage, so it can be assumed that he never did. Insane old fart
This is a woman who has been married and divorced for a number of years, living on her own in a foreign country, earning her own money, taking care of herself, not some 17 year old living under his roof.
I thought this exact thing. Why is he still belly-aching about Harry not asking Tom’s permission especially since she was married before? If Toxic Tom was ok with Engelson as a husband, why would anyone question the suitability of Prince Harry?
And every interview is a regurgitation of the same old complaints ad nauseum, just interspersed with the new stuff. Its redundant and boring. And these royal reporters make complete jackasses of themselves each time they trot him out.
On that note I’ll stop wasting time commenting on this particular topic.
Guess all his interviews have blurred into one as in his first GMB interview he said Harry had spoken to him about getting engaged to Meghan.
Thomas also apparently said in this interview that he won’t stop talking to the media even if he gets access to the kids etc which I don’t think he was meant to admit
Of course he is – wonder how much he is being paid for this. At some point the media and the RF will turn on their dancing puppet and burn his ass.
100%.
I can’t wait for the day they set him alight. Evil, evil man.
All of this is evidence for when Thomas turns the tables, or some reputable journalist goes after this story. All of this traces back to Kensington Palace, and I hope that Harry goes nuclear on them in his book. He and Meghan both know the extent to which KP tried to stop the wedding, and which ratchets were complicit. Either Bad Dad is going to flip (demand more money than the pennypinching royals will give him), or maybe Harry will make his own revelations to cut ties completely.
I recall a poster a few weeks ago who said that the word behind the scenes was that Harry was threatening to renounce all of his titles and cut ties completely. Perhaps he needs to give his family an ultimatum–cut out the shit with Thomas or we will A) tell all or B) completely cut ties.
These quotes are not even in American English. I’m a linguist, and Americans don’t say “I’ve not heard back” we say “I haven’t heard back”. It’s a little thing, but it’s an absolute thing.
Americans don’t say “in hospital,” either.
Good eye! We say “in the hospital”.
Grrrrr. I wish there was a law that said this jerk must keep her name out of his filthy mouth.
Exactly what tipped me off as well. Only Madonna says “in hospital”, maybe Gwyneth Paltrow.
And how does one “reclaim a mental illness,” I wonder?
Right. As if there is a Lost & Found box for mental illness. His script writers must not be aware there is a difference between mental health and mental illness.
According to a screenshot I saw, Wootton or whoever is/are still claiming Rosarito & Montecito are only 70 miles apart.
There was one interview with Piss Morgan where Thomas used the word “chav” which no American would EVER use. We have NO IDEA what that means.
I only know because it was in an episode of Doctor Who, and I had to turn on captions to get the spelling and Google it!
Ha I learned about it on DR Who too lol. It was an episode with Rose
I love the investigators on this site! Keep up the good work.
Mmmm… no. I’m American and I say, “I’ve not heard back”. In fact, I just used it this morning in a text to my sister about my dad’s care worker.
But we *always* use an article before a noun: THE hospital, THE/AN university.
I agree, I use that phrase in speech and casual writing. “In hospital” however, is thoroughly British.
Who has an appetite for this drivel? Are they still slurping up his tired shtick?
Lord, they deserve it. Rotten food for a rotten readership. Anyone who takes this guy seriously is either intellectually under-served or dead inside.
“Intellectually under-served…” I LOVE this.
Thank you. You can trust I’ll be putting this term to good use. LOL.
Groundhog day Thomas, he even believes his own lies.
“I have not heard from Meghan since she got married” 5 months later sold a letter Meghan wrote to him which he replied to.
Always, Believed meghan had no intention of introducing Harry to Tom before the wedding, because she knew his character.
She had clothes made for him in London, was providing his travel and accommodation and was giving no other info, then he played the heart attack game, and she promptly told the tailor he could sell the clothes, which he did, the customer wore them to the Ascot races.
Thomas hates Meghan because she refused to let him speak at her wedding and Doria had an invitation delivered to her.
He is blaming Harry for cutting off the money from Meghan.
He seems to be forgetting Archie and it’s all about Lili now. He is going to call her Lili, how special.
I find this interview quite humorous. He calls the baby “his Lili”. At some point he needs a therapist to say: idiot, you are the one fabricating stories – it’s called projection.
And one last thing, as if he knew ANYTHING about the English monarchy and the BRF to be able to comment on any affects on Lizzy.
Sit down and zip it!
It’s ridiculous he’s not a family man, he never bothers to see all of his grandchildren, even before Archie and Lili were born. So phony.
He started with a rant about being scammed by The Daily Beast over the pap shots and then recited his narrative heavily edited for factual content as in one itty bitty mistake and then M + H cut me off while I’m in hospital after heart attack. He didn’t admit to switching phone off to them while he gave paid updates to TMZ the week before the wedding so that they literally knew the same time as everybody else that he wasn’t coming to their wedding? . At end of interview member of public asked if he would stop speaking to media if it meant he could see the grandkids? Nope was shot back because Tommy suffers from Total Publicity Disorder which means constant paid media interviews blasting his own daughter. Meghan gave him another chance with her 5 page letter. He could have seen the light then but he continued with his media blitz because he doesn’t want to reconcile with them. It is all about money and attention. He has swopped his own daughter for Dan Wooton, Piss Moron and trashy tabloid cash. All this mess proves is that there is no way back and the media can keep him because I have heard enough to last a life time!
The delight on Pier’s face when her own father turned traitor on her? One day Piers, someone will wear that expression while destroying you.
It would be nice to see them sued together for malice.
@Lady D, Mark Lawson, from The Guardian, did a good piece on PM’s GMB meltdown. I’ve posted it before. This is one worth repeating. It would be great to see a series of similar pieces done on royal rotas/experts and their harrassing of Meghan.
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2021/mar/10/piers-morgan-good-morning-britain-harry-meghan-oprah
He never fails to show his a$$ does he?
“I was lying in hospital, talking to them from hospital, telling them I couldn’t come to wedding and they haven’t talked to me since. You’re a parent and your child’s in hospital, wouldn’t you be concerned if they live or die? They don’t answer or respond in any way shape of form.”
IS HE SAYING HE IS MEGHAN’S CHILD???????????????????????
Lol!
Didn’t an interview, maybe with ex BFF, say Meghan was kind of the parent?
For me, that was the most telling part of the interview. He thinks of himself as the child and Meghan as the parent. What a weirdo.
Harry and Meghan called him and he did not return the calls.
This toxic man is old news
Seriously. Who is the audience for him at this point?
You obviously.
Harry has this saying: If you look at the paparazzi, you’re done.
How on earth would Toxic Tom know this unless Baldimort leaked it.
The gutter press is unethical.
It’s interesting that the narrative is now that Harry is the villain. We’ll have to watch for more of this from KP and Friends. It makes sense that they’d shift to this since Harry is the one who’s about to release a memoir.
You bring up a good point. Richard Eden said the news of Harry’s book had him almost thinking that Harry was the bad guy in this whole saga not Meghan. I also think the press is realizing that blaming Meghan for them leaving is not really working anymore. I think we’re going to see the attacks on Harry intensify in the coming months.
since the memoir was announced, the press will def go after Harry more as it’s clear he’s not returning to royal duties so no need to pave a path for his return & just blame everything on the ‘evil biracial woman’.
Harry has been the villain to Thomas from the start- just like according to Lacey, William feels Meghan took Harry away, Thomas seems to blame Harry for Meghan going no contact on him& also cutting his money supply off. In one of Thomas’ letters I think he refers to Harry protecting Meghan from him on a call. He also talks about how he knows how he’s been leaning on Meghan for money but can she help him with a bit more for his silence.
My theory is the Sun’s PI hired to spy on Meghan couldn’t find dirt on Meghan but could on the Markles eg that Thomas had had money problems & think he’s admitted to having drug/alcohol issues. so the media were grooming him to sell Meghan out and/or derail the relationship with Harry.
I think he’s more of a media prop then a palace one although knowing now that some in the family were wary of Meghan, wouldn’t be surprised if someone from the palace gave the nod to the press to recruit Thomas. If the wedding couldn’t be stopped the media probably wanted him to collude with them to get exclusives on Harry & Meghan after it was clear Harry would keep them at arms length.
I also think Piers was assigned as chief press harasser if the wedding did happen to help see Meghan off. that’s why he only gave his story about meeting Meghan AFTER she was engaged & silenced by KP. He would have known he wouldn’t be invited to wedding but his pub drink lie gave him pretext for the ghosting story & subsequent harassment. That’s also why he is Thomas’ chief media contact. Thomas has talked about media needing to go through Piers.
I think pre wedding Thomas was supplying Samantha etc with family pics to sell to the media on the low whilst kind of blackmailing Meghan for money during that pre wedding period when he was keeping a low profile. But then he wasn’t getting his way with the wedding guests he wanted to bring & speech he wanted to give etc & then Harry stopped Meghan giving him money so that’s when he decided to go all in with the media with the paparazzi photos scheme etc.
Thomas is now just used to endorse the media’s messaging on Meghan eg she lied on Oprah and pile on the hate but it’s honestly boring. I saw many non royal watchers comment that he’s brought out as a diversion to Andrew.
The way Thomas talked about Lili was creepy & possessive. I guess he’s more interested in Lili now in same way as the media are because picture hasn’t been released.
Very well said. I completely agree.
I think they’ll continue to go after Meghan publicly, because that upsets Harry more than when they come after him.
@notasugarhere..yea, they probably will which I see as a completely foolish decision. But we’re talking about a sewage of fools that seem to be content in wallowing in their own stench. These people should not call themselves journalists-they’re more like urinalists. They are lazy just like the members of the BRF they show support for *cough* Will & Kate.
There are so many other stories they could work on. Like follow up reporting/investigations on unsolved murders. I don’t know if the UK has shows like that-they are big in the US on a national & local level and are quite popular.
Instead, they want to do repetitive negative stories on someone whose only “crime” is being a WOC. The powers to be really need to remember Harry is still working on his book. Going after Meghan will not serve them well.
At this point, I can only call on God and his angels to protect the Sussexes. They get it from all sides. I’m just going to keep them in my prayers…
Continue sitting in your filth Thomas. Karma knows.
Willy wants the focus shifted because Betty has put her foot down and said Andrew won’t be sacrificed as Long as she is breathing or all bets are off.
Ironic to wish somebody “brighter days” and then move on to making accusations against her. The only thing TM could say now that would be of any interest is detailing how much money he has made off of vilifying H&M and who paid him and contacted him to get him to take various actions.
Meant to add this interview was on GB news, the new channel that started in June as the UK version of Fox News, who are trying to sign up Piss Moron which gives you an idea of the audience they want to attract. It has been barely watched although Danny Rotten is supposed to be their star presenter. He did interview Sammy last week so it could be a coincidence that bad dad showed up yesterday. Most folk on social media called out the deflection from peadogate. Dan thinks he is on to a winer because he ended on the ominous note, we’ll talk again soon! So like death and taxes , another blast from the past be right back soon!
He is not ever worth our attention, time and disgust.
I agree. I wish no media would write about this person. Not to criticise this site at all, I just wish there would be an action not to talk about or write about anything he says to anyone. Maybe that’s the only way for him to go away. Give him no attention. Meghan did it. Just wish his bloated face would disappear.
Starve the beast, ignore the clown.
I think this toxic Tom interview was actually planned as a response to Meghan’s initiative. It received global attention and engagement. Which surely enraged W. He wants to demean and diminish Meghan. He wants he to be attacked directly and trotting out the father accomplishes that. As for the birthday party stuff. The original story was by Tominey, who this time last year was predicting failure for Sussexes now she has shifted to well they may not be as popular/successful as they were. The carnival is still trying to sell the idea that the Oprah interview had a negative impact and was a bad decision. Then the story was amplified by Angela Levin who simply hates Meghan.
I love how none of this is working lol. Did they have no other contingency plan other than smearing Meghan? Is that why they were so unhinged about the departure… cos they had all these antics lined up for distractions as and when needed?
They’re gonna have to come up with something else. No one cares about this senile old man and his ramblings. We’re peaceful under a tree nowadays.
+1
Bad Dad will eventually step on the rake like he did he admitted to Meghan’s letter. He’ll cross a legal line in the US so bad the BM and KP can’t get them out of. Dragging the kids into this was the big error. US courts tend to get tough when children are involved and they won’t go easy on this bag of pus and his demon spawn from his first marriage. The Sussex lawyers are building a case. The Markle Monsters are the weakest link. Take them down and they will all fall.
He has no case and his lawyers are taking him for a ride. California law is explicit that grandparents only have rights if the parents are not involved in the children’s life. His petition will be thrown out immediately upon receipt.
It’s utter nonsense. The courts are more likely to order a permanent injunction against him.
@Amy Bee, does he even have lawyers? He hasn’t filed a petition, he only talks about it. A lawyer would tell him bleating on tv isn’t helping(a judge would not look favorably at that) and he’s already making it clear he doesn’t have an established relationship with Archie & Lili which is one of the things required to be able to file a petition. All he’s doing and has been doing is giving evidence and credence to the reasons he isn’t and shouldn’t be in the Sussexes lives.
Thomas Markle is an overly self medicated sh*t for brains.
Has he even consulted an attorney. This man is just farting into the wind.
It’s all BS and hot air. Won’t happen. There is no pre-existing relationship with the children and that is the most vital part of this whole mess. The press is DYING to get info and pictures of Lili and this tool would sell the baby out too. Please spare us this greasy dung-heap. Thank you. Much appreciated.
@Merricat
So the court issues a permanent injunction against him and then what? He breaks the injunction, as sure as night follows day and you know what happens:….. prison is the next logical step.
Do you not think M’s enemies are salivating at the thought of her putting her sperm donor in prison?
Not. Gonna. Happen.
Toxictom will continue to be ignored by Meghan and Harry even after he drops dead, as he soon will.
I absolutely doubt that Meghan lives her life with a single thought for the BM. I also don’t believe in avoiding legal action because the other person will break the law anyway . That simply doesn’t make sense.
So same old same old bullshit of “Why don’t they talk to me?!?!?”
He’s a vile and miserable cunt. There I said it.
Lol succinct and to the point. Sofia I think you’re my new fave poster!!!
Haha thank you!
Exactly what he is. He has other grandkids he doesn’t give a rip about. It’d be merciful if he just passed in his sleep. There, now I said it.
Sofia, lol. I agree with you and may I add I hope he dies a miserable lonely death when his time comes.
Right after the wedding I half expected bad dad to receive a new home and monthly pay cheque in exchange for peace and quiet. However Meghan knows her own father better than anyone and correctly guessed that she had lost him to the false allure of having the media on speed dial. For me the key response in yesterday’s interview was if he had to give up media gold in exchange for seeing the grandkids, would he agree and the answer was no because obviously they are props for more publicity not less. Meghan was saddened but probably not surprised at her Dad’s decision. Their lawyers maybe watch bad dad interviews but I suspect M & H don’t because he belongs in the past.
40 X 40 is picking up steam, regular people are donating their time to help women, even saw someone in France volunteering their time.
Angela Levin said Meghan think she is smart, maybe she had a story ready to go about Meghan’s lavish fortieth birthday party, and Meghan came out with helping women get back in the workforce, boom back to the rewrites.
LOL I heard that B*tch Colon Cancer said M gave 2 fingers to the BRF with her fantabulous birthday initiative.
Theyre all shook.
And look what Colon did to the royals, she labeled the Queen Mother as illegitimate in her “biography.” what a hypocrite.
I was extremely bored (British telly is absolutely mince during summertime) so I watched this “world exclusive interview.” It was an absolutely incoherent shit-show. I think the haters have scored a spectacular own-goal.
It’s a shame Perry Mason is no longer around as Markle Sr is apparently unleashing yet another law suit. As well as suing for access (photographs/videos) to grandchildren, the 5 friends for “defamation”, he plans to sue Colman/Rayner. He didn’t elaborate on any specific grounds for this latest legal foray but “somehow, someday” he will see them in court. Grifters got to grift!
He has no case for the defamation lawsuit either. In the US there is a statute of limitations to file for defamation is 1 – 3 years depending on jurisdiction. In Meghan’s lawsuit with DM the court ruled TT had to take his “defamation” beef up with People Magazine. People is based In Iowa, where the statute of limitations is two years (from date of publication of the issue I think). TT missed the deadline, February 2021. Google is your friend moron.
Umm… do British folks use ” ” differently than Americans? No way these are TM’s actual responses. “I was lying in hospital, talking to them from hospital” We don’t speak like that. We say in the hospital. These responses were definitely written it for him.
Of course they were! And he wasn’t even in the hospital. He had already been paid to stay home and deliberately miss the wedding. I thought most people knew that already. They’re still using the fake heart attacks three years on? Give me a break.
He was spotted about a day after the “surgery” eating fast food fried chicken.
The pictures are on TMZ.
My favourite part of this piece is his confirmation that M&H don’t respond to him in any way, shape or form. Hallelujah and carry on
The fact is if he actually wanted to get in touch with them and reach out privately, he could but he doesn’t want to because he doesn’t want to sign any NDAs and likes the attention from the press and the palace courtiers who handle him. This is who he is. There is no better version of him out there.
“In hospital” is British English and would never be said by an American; we say “in the hospital.” Are the British tabloid press truly so provincial that they didn’t know that? The sloppiness is shocking.
The things this man says and continues to say about his daughter are just beyond disgusting. He sounds like those QAnon types who just believe all the crazy conspiracies and are beyond redemption. Seems most people are hip to this game and know whenever the other royals have a problem, they attack Meghan. Also, how incredibly presumptive of him to say that he prefers Lilibet as just Lili. Her name is Lilibet and regardless of what she’s called in daily life, that’s the name they chose for her. The fact is he finds it more lucrative to attack Meghan and he has no interest in reconciliation because there is no money in it for him and he loves the attention he gets from scum like Wooten.
I notice that the DM has some other Anti Meghan articles. No surprises.
Tom Markle has the absolute Gall to talk about Harry and Meghan’s “bad behavior” and here he is on a rant to the media and he admitted he gets $$$ for this. Shame on him.
Ah the British media focusing on the issues that matter. Snort. It’s amazing that they still have an obsession with a woman that hasn’t even been in their country in about a year in a half..
He is such a fucking scumbag, oh my god. Poor Meghan. She said it in the Oprah interview- she lost her father. He killed their relationship by choosing the tabloids over her, these kids will absolutely never know him while it is within the power of their parents to prevent them from knowing him, and it is absolutely the right thing. What an emotionally abusive piece of shit. Her ex-husband and in-laws have more respect for her as a person. I don’t even want to think about all the money they must have refused over the years because they’re decent people, yet her own father does this to her.
lol I just popped by daily fail & I honestly couldn’t find this piece!! They overused this clown and whatever he says no longer gets much clicks😂
The whole world knows by now how the UK press & palace have an invisible contract and no one is falling for this. If anything the longer he speaks the more sympathy Meghan gets and the grey men in suits+chuck & willy are too caught up in their own s***t to see it🤭
“My lili” absolutely triggered me. I hope to God that man never gets his hands on that child.
Celebitches, I have to ask this highly relevant question. Am I the only one thinking what a lousy Director of Photography or Lighting Director he must be? Because his lighting sucks in these interviews. He aught to be an expert at lighting a face, right? Wtf. The backgrounds are fine. Maybe the real news from all his slimy interviews is how astonishingly poor his professional skill set is. Sucks as a father, sucks as a lighting director/ DP.
He looks pretty rough so he might be trying to not be too brightly lit.
No loving parent would do what Thomas has done to his own child-Piers Morgan and Thomas Markle represent white male privilege to say what they want to the media with noone challenging them on what they say-Any media that gives this man an interview has a bias against Meghan especially and throwing in Harry and the kids sometimes-These stories comes from one major source or owner-we all know who he is-If you have to manufacture stories with no named sources this is called in my mind hearsay and rumor to cause someone distress-If Thomas truly loved Meghan no way would he run to the tabloids with these trashy stories to hurt her and her family-If he would say I truly love my daughter and want to help her-I would personally kick his teeth right of his mouth-He has had his turn in this world to do whatever he wanted to do with his life-You let the next generation live their lives without interference when necessary-he’s an old man and should stay in an old place and the same goes for Piers- I told my mother this once and never had any trouble with her again.