The Ioan Gruffudd-Alice Evans divorce has become one of those niche gossip controversies, something akin to the LeAnn Rimes/Eddie Cibrian/Brandi Glanville mess which lasted for years. While Ioan is a well-known and respected actor, he’s not Brad Pitt, you know? He’s never been in the gossip media before he left his wife this year and his now-estranged wife went completely batsh-t crazy on him online. Alice Evans clearly believes that she can bully her ex and publicly whine about him and that somehow she’ll come across as sympathetic or, even better, he’ll come running back to her.
So, it seems like Ioan has a new girlfriend. Her name is Bianca Wallace and they just became Instagram Official. Ioan posted the above photo with the message “Thank you for making me smile again @iambiancawallace.” You knew that two seconds after Ioan’s next relationship was confirmed, Alice would have something to say about it. So of course:
Actor Ioan Gruffudd’s ex-wife Alice Evans has accused him of having a three-year-long affair. The actress made the claims on social media after the Liar star, 48, went Instagram official with new partner Bianca Wallace, 30, on Wednesday morning.
Ioan’s decision to go public with Bianca comes seven months on from his acrimonious split from 49-year-old Alice – with whom he shares two daughters. Shortly after Ioan shared the smitten post of himself and Bloodline star Bianca, which he captioned: “Thank you for making me smile again @iambiancawallace”, Alice vented on Twitter and shared how she was previously friends with Ioan’s new love.
Alice typed: “So it turns out that my husband, after two years of telling me I’m a bad person and I’m not exciting and he no longer want so to have sex with me and he just wants to be on set abroad…Has been in a relationship for THREE years behind all our backs. Good luck, Bianca.”
Bianca’s friend Amy Douglas then got on Twitter and pushed back on Alice’s “three year affair” narrative, pointing out that Bianca and Ioan only began hanging out with each other in 2020, as they got into filming the later parts of the season of Harrow. Honestly, Amy Douglas isn’t doing her friend any favors here, she makes it sound like Bianca and Ioan’s affair began mid-to-late 2020, then Ioan went back to LA in January of this year and told Alice that he was leaving her. Alice clearly believed that he was cheating back then, but she accused him of a million other things alongside the infidelity. Alice and Ioan were always going to be a messy breakup then.
Incidentally, I totally believe that all things can be true at once: Ioan cheated (emotionally and/or physically) and wanted out of his marriage and he had no desire to put in any work to reconcile with the mother of his children. And: Alice is a manipulative piece of work who has used their kids as pawns in her own narcissistic drama.
So it turns out that my husband, after two years of telling me I'm a bad person and I'm not exciting and he no longer want so to have sex with me and he just wants to be on set abroad…
Has been in a relationship for THREE years behind all our backs.
Good luck, Bianca.
— Alice Evans (@AliceEvansGruff) October 27, 2021
Still nothing.
We were together for 20 yrs.
We spoke every day, at least three or four times.
He was my best friend, my twin soul.
I don't know how to move on. I will, but at the moment I have no idea.
— Alice Evans (@AliceEvansGruff) October 27, 2021
Photos courtesy of Instagram, WENN and Avalon Red.
Usually I have sympathy for people who have been cheated on but not Alice. She just sounds like an awful person to be around.
I don’t think that’s fair. I think she’s just having a mental health crisis in public. She’s saying things she shouldn’t, in a way she shouldn’t, but she doesn’t have a history of doing that before her marriage fell apart. He was filming in Australia for long periods of time and she was at home virtually being a single mother. It can’t have been easy to realise he’d moved on. A little compassion would go a long way here.
Oh yes she does. She used to unload on Meghan on twitter. So for me this is karma. Chickens have come home to roost for Miss Alice.
@Jenn- wait you mean Meghan Markle?? I actually felt bad for Alice, but if that’s the truth then enjoy that karma girlfriend. I hate bullies.
Also… it seems she did something similar to be together with Ioan:
“Evans first met actor Ioan Gruffudd during the filming of 102 Dalmatians (1999), while she was in a relationship with Olivier Widmaier Picasso, a grandson of painter Pablo Picasso. In 2001, she was described as residing with Picasso in Paris, to whom she was engaged; they were together for eight years before she left him for Gruffudd” (from Wiki).
I can understand why she’d be having a mental health crisis.
I just don’t get why it’s on Twitter. I would get myself off of Twitter if I’m not feeling well.
Alice was public in her dislike of Meghan on Twitter. In fact the only reason I recognized her name when the break up with her husband was made public was because she was so open in her criticism of MM and with a blue check it gets noticed a lot more.
I felt a lot of sympathy for her, I know it must be hard when you spend 20 years with someone they they break up with you. But she seems to be going full ‘karen’ here. I think she’s probably been acting like this long before the break up. I dunno if something happens as a woman enters middle age where they lose themselves. She was once a beautiful lady, I dunno if she became more and more insecure with herself as she has gotten older.
As for her being a Meghan hater, that sounds about right. Middle age woman who no longer gets her husbands attention hating a younger more Beautiful woman for marrying a prince. Yep she sounds like a classic Meghan troll.
@remarks – Maybe she doesn’t recognise it as a crisis and is just lashing out in any way that she can. She wants a response and she wants to be heard, so social media seems an obvious place to go.
Personally I’d stay well away from it, but not everyone reacts in the same way.
True, not everyone responds the same way. But we receive feedback on how we’re received. I assume not all the feedback she’s received is positive. I just can’t see how it would be if he’s literally saying nothing about what their marriage was like (did their personalities clash? did they drift apart? did he get bored? did he really cheat? does he want to date more casually with everyone he meets? I have no freaking idea. He clearly knows how to keep his mouth shut). Once people start calling me as the wife a bit unhinged, I’d probably back off the social media.
Oddly enough, 9 times out of 10, I usually sympathize with the wife. This is the rare case where the husband is literally giving nothing away. I don’t think it’s possible to piece together anything about what he was like as a husband. Maybe he’s not famous enough though.
she has a long history of being a giant AH – even when she was just engaged to Gruffudd, she went after the president of his fan club. Also, I’m pretty sure he mentioned something about marital problems/marriage counseling a few years ago and, based on her behavior over the past year, my guess is that he’s been trying to extricate himself from the marriage for some time before he finally laid it out for her in no uncertain terms
I empathize with the fact that she’s clearly hurting and having some crazy strong emotions, but I do not in any way feel like she’s acting appropriately on her feelings. Cheating—if it happened (and it’s hard to tell based on what she says because she’s said *so much*)—is hard and being abruptly broken up with is hard. Whether she missed all the warning signs he was giving or whatever else, she at least *feels* like she was blindsided, and that is gut wrenching. But man, her behavior is so bad. I don’t even know if what she’s believing in her head about him and his behavior is factual, but the thoughts and the narrative that she’s constructed for herself around their marriage and break up are leading to some obviously intense emotions for her, and I empathize. I just wish she would stop posting and talk to a therapist instead of trying to do…whatever it is she’s trying to do online.
Same. I cannot muster any sympathy for the woman. Also, she’s a right-wing anti-Meghan nutter so it makes it very difficult for me to side with her. Team kids here.
She’s not right wing, nor is she anti- vax. Plus she keeps track of every comment made about her online. I just read a month full of Tweets, very interesting.
I agree with Amy Bee.
I do too. I keep thinking of their children. I hope that there comes a time that they don’t see these posts. But I am also thinking about what Alice says to their children in private. The children are innocent bystanders.
Based on her rantings I think that the marriage was already over and she was refusing to acknowledge that in any way, shape or form until proper divorce proceedings started – remember she accused him of ghosting her but you have to wonder who was actually ghosting who. I think he asked for a divorce and she ghosted him hoping that he would change his mind.
“Based on her rantings I think that the marriage was already over and she was refusing to acknowledge that in any way, shape or form until proper divorce proceedings started” Yep, she definitely rejected the idea of divorce. Some of her comments bordered on the emotionally abusive (my mother literally had to escape my father and to place herself into another house for their separation to happen, my father didn’t want to proceed with that in spite of him having a ‘girlfriend’ for 10 years at that point).
It’s really hard to know, but it does sound like the writing was on the wall for this relationship.
I think it’s usually harder for the person being left, than it is for the person leaving. They’ve already accepted that it’s over, in order to make the decision to leave. I’m guessing even if the signs were clear, she was still in love and didn’t want to accept it. She probably thought there was a way to turn things around.
I agree with @AlpineWitch, that what she’s saying/doing is starting to sound emotionally abusive. Whether this is a long standing thing (and possibly part of the reason the relationship broke down), or the result of her having a breakdown, and grasping at any last straw to try to guilt him into coming back, is up for debate. We probably won’t ever know because Ioan seems to have concluded (quite rightly) that he will keep his side to himself, as much as possible.
While Ioan is an adult, who has clearly seen enough to walk away, I feel for their children, who won’t necessarily understand what’s happening. If this is what she is willing to put out in the public domain, I can only imagine what she says to them at home.
Alpinewitch
I knew a couple that were divorcing. She cheated. He filed. It dragged out over a year because she would not sign the divorce papers. She waited it out until he started and held a higher paying job to help her with alimony. It was messy. People can be so messy and petty. I think Alice is this type of person.
@ GraceB, please accept my apology for having written the same statement without having read your comment.
Yes, this looks bad for the children.
@ Wiglet Watcher, well that was a major sh!t act on her part! Hopefully karma will catch up to her!
Funny that when I divorced my ex, he maintained his unemployment during the divorce proceedings to reduce/eliminate his obligation in regards to child support. In Texas, it’s based on a percentage on earnings. The judge saw what he was doing, as he fought me on the divorce, and granted his last employment wages. Funny that once the papers were signed after more than 9 months of his antics , he was employed within a week!
Her online behaviour appears abusive (to both her ex and kids) and mental health struggles and heartbreak don’t excuse that. If this is what she’s doing in public forums where she has an image to project and protect, I’d hate to see what it’s like behind closed doors. I don’t fault Ioan for getting out even if he did it in a not ideal way.
My mom was an Alice Evans. I feel sorry for her kids and for her. Not because her husband (maybe) cheated and left her, but because she’ll never be happy, she’ll never feel enough. That’s a hard way to live and it’s an impossible situation for her kids. It doesn’t sound like she has a support group (friends/family) that can actually help her/help the kids. It’s sad and it’s lonely to grow up with this.
My marriage was skidding to a halt and my ex cheated on me and was gaslighting me and although the end of the marriage was not a surprise it was still very hard. And even 2 years later I have lots of emotions and feelings about it. You know who hears all my whining and complaining and emotional outbursts? Friends and family (lucky them haha). When my ex was being the absolute worst I maybe had about 3 vague FB posts and if you knew you knew but I wasn’t calling him out.
And again when my ex was being his most horrible the worst things I said about him around our child were “daddy is being dumb” or “daddy is being a butthead.” And my kid was 3 then so he doesn’t even remember. My goal is to protect my child not let the world know my dirty laundry and emotional outbursts. Should my son ever go through my FB page from my divorce era nothing would stick out as being against his father.
I’m not going to fault Alice for having BIG emotions. Whether he cheated or she is making this all up she’s obviously going through it and that’s totally understandable. But doing it on social media is not okay and it’s going to hurt her kids in the long run.
@Amy Bee
She also ghosted her boyfriend after dumping him for Ioan….. (article is from Wales online, Jan. 2002):
“THEY’VE gone public with their relationship this week but there may be something Ioan Gruffudd and actress girlfriend Alice Evans aren’t telling us. Like the mention of that little diamond rock on the third finger of her left hand, perhaps? ”
“The couple, who first met more than two years ago on the set of Hollywood movie 102 Dalmatians, looked every inch the celebrity couple when they attended the glitzy premiere of Ioan’s latest movie Black Hawk Down.”
“They first met on the 102 Dalmatians set in 1999 but didn’t get together because long-legged Alice was living with Frenchman Olivier Picasso, grandson of the legendary artist.
But they renewed their friendship when Alice was working on a film with Ioan’s flat-mate Matthew Rhys and soon couldn’t resist each other. Ioan was dropping hints that he’d met someone special as long ago as last June.
Alice, who lived in Paris with Picasso for eight years, said they had to keep their love affair secret for fear of hurting Olivier – but she knew in her heart that Ioan was the man for her.”
“”I feel bad for Olivier. We haven’t had any contact since I told him it was over. I had a fantastic relationship with him and I would love to continue as a friendship. But we are not good as a couple. I started going out with him when I was 22 and he was 30, and I think he still sees me as a little girl. I would have married him if he’d asked me two years ago but he didn’t.”
“And work is still at the forefront of Ioan and Alice’s minds and both are about to go to Los Angeles where they have a number of offers waiting for them.”
I mean, she basically admitted she cheated on her fiance and was thinking to move to LA in 2002, before even getting married.
@ AlpineWitch, I actually have no idea who she is, so I googled her. I came across this little gem, which must have been made early during the divorce. There was another article posted that she was seen coming out of her home today and waving her fingers about sans wedding ring. Like, WTF? Aren’t they already divorced?
Here is one of her earlier rants online. She is also thanking everyone for their tremendous outpouring of love and support since her latest claim of him having been unfaithful for the last 3 years!!
https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/hook-ups-break-ups/alice-evans-bizarre-public-sighting-after-claims-exhusband-ioan-gruffudd-had-an-affair/news-story/9351a8bfc0e9033b2bf47941c4337521
Idk. Obviously I know nothing about what really happened in their personal life but I’m starting to think this was over long before the news they were splitting came out, he may have told her before, and she just chose not to hear him (doing the Chrissy Teigen thing where he tried to break up and she just said “No”) until he put his foot down. She is irrational and has no sense of reality which is shown by her being obsessed with getting “the public” on her side (I get being upset and heartbroken but this kind of manipulation is really bad).
I saw some of her posts compiled here, and it seems to me she mostly complain that
1) he looks good for his age while she does not
2) he managed to find work- mind you, not in Hollywood, but as a lead actor nevertheless- and she not
3) she stays home with her children while he works
The undertone of all is that she believes he HAS to stays with her because she sacrificed her life and looks for him?I mean, we all know Hollywood tends not to be kind to women over 40, they were never stars and she personally never established herself in a way that made her sought after. I can see the roles drying out for her as a natural consequence of her losing her looks and not being Meryl Streep level…and he is definitely not to blame to have found work in Australia, which just leads me…
Why, once Harrow was a hit, Ioan did not have her and the girls move to Australia? By her own admission, she is without friends in L.A- why is she staying there?
Answer: either he REALLY considered the marriage over a long time ago and was just seeing if distance made the heart fonder OR she was still thinking about what it would mean in terams of her career…
I’m sure she has some resent towards him that he was able to have a career in Hollywood and she didn’t.
That’s something that didn’t make sense to me either. Neither of them are American citizens. Their children aren’t American citizens. So it seems to me that relocating to Australia would make sense. They have no real ties to America. And since she’s an actress, I doubt it would have been difficult to find work in Australia as well.
It may well be that she miscalculated, and thought his new show would have been canceled after the first season like his other American show, Forever on ABC. I remember him doing interviews about being shocked that the show was canceled because they were getting fairly decent viewers for the time slot.
But I don’t know, it’s also weird that she claims that his new girlfriend was her friend.
Her Wiki bio says she is an American citizen too.
He was spending half the year in Oz and until 2020 half the year in England
“The undertone of all is that she believes he HAS to stays with her because she sacrificed her life and looks for him?”
She was 36 when she married him, so already a dinosaur by HW standards. It’s cruel to think about that but that’s how the HW machine operates.
There’ actually a pretty solid case to be built that she’s in fact 3 years older than she claims. If that is true, she has hardly given her youth to him.
Considering how Alice was so cruel to Meghan Markle, a woman she doesn’t even know, i feel no sympathy for her. It’s a shame that so many miserable women stuck in loveless marriages feel the need to take out their anger on women they see in loving relationships. Maybe she should sit back, reflect, work on herself, and then try to put some positivity into the world so that she can attract that back.
@Chelsea: Perhaps all that attention she was paying to Meghan should have been spent on her marriage.
Ha! Good point!
Woooow, I just read her comments about Meghan. Any sympathy I had for her is gone!
Links please?
I just googled “Alice Evans Meghan Markle” and found them.
Also, she defended Laurence Fox after his racism comments.
Thank you
I recommend taking some CBD gummy’s as Alice is NOT kind one bit in regards to Meghan!! Plus you see the campaign of her spilling every moment, call, text, interaction, non action with regards to soon to be ex-husband!! She came out of the gate immediately and started this awful campaign against him!! Wow!!
Exactly. Supporting Lawrence Fox also means she aligns with the right-wing anti-vaxxer crowd.
She’s not an anti vaxxer she’s all over Twitter mocking them.
She has also been super dramatic about all of this in ways I can’t relate to. But as Kaiser said it’s possible he cheated and she’s a narcissist. I mean, really, people often cheat on abusers and narcissists. It’s a form of protest, albeit immature.
https://twitter.com/aliceevansgruff/status/1444380937681182721?s=21
She went against Meghan, supported Fox, and is besties with Piers Morgan (or at least her and Ioan were at some point, dunno how things stand right now). On the other hand, she was very anti-Trump (to the point where Ioan Gruffudd feard for his career because she was so loud and weird on Twitter about Orangio). So it’s hard to pin her down politically. Her position seems just being really extra.
Piers Morgan’s wife is supposedly a good friend and she dumped on Meghan and has well documented jealousy of husband online fan club.
I am sorry for her obvious pain but she needs therapy not more drama and love her kids more than she hates her ex.
@Lady Digby
She has always been fixated on him since they met. Poor kids
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/ioan-and-alice-ring-mystery-1981669
I feel absolutely no sympathy for her at all.
yep, she is a mess. I hope that he spends a lot of time with his kids because if this is what the public gets imagine how she is at home.
If if the cheating rumors are true she has made such a bad name for herself that I only feel bad for Ioan and the kids. She’s unstable.
The only thing I seriously sideeye him for is staying that long with this crazy duckfaced moron.
+1
Haha +1,000,000
I’m married to a man whose first marriage reminded me of my own – in reverse. In both cases there was gaslighting, browbeating, bullying. I’m guessing Ioan stuck around because of the kids, who are the ones I really feel for in this mess.
She truely doesnt seem alright,she has that look in her eyes like she can really do something crazy. I hope family and friends can help her before she gets completely unhinged.
“Completely unhinged” will likely come if/when he remarried or if/when the girlfriend gets pregnant. Honestly…given this public breakdown over just the relationship going public? I cannot imagine how unhinged the reaction would be to the other two things.
She does look unstable. It sucks to be cheated on, no question. But to endlessly bleat about it on Twitter…she’s a mother, she needs to pull herself together and move forward. And get off fcking social media. When someone says they don’t love you anymore, what can you do? Hope there are no boiled bunnies up the road.
Of course there was another woman on deck. He may not have cheated, but men generally don’t leave long term relationships without someone in mind to replace their ex. Just my opinion. Also, of course Alice is one of those twin soul believing women. I can imagine how vomit-inducing she is on a personal level. I have a friend that posts countless quotes about twin souls every time she meets a new guy…followed by over sharing of personal details regarding her pain after the relationship inevitably fails. Some people need to be kept away from the internet from time to time.
Ugh. That crap—and “you can change a man through love”’—are two myths that need to be burned to ashes, then shot to the sun. 🤮🤮🤮
Alice needs serious help. He filed for divorce months ago, had separated from her a few months prior to filing. He is allowed to move on. I wish she would. The replies to her tweets are just as unhinged. All she is doing is making it a hell of a lot easier for him to gain custody.
Does he want custody, though?
Exactly! He does NOT want to be a full-time dad and dumped all the child rearing on her. Telling a woman to be quiet and dignified when a man dumps her, only benefits the man. She is also allowed to feel all the chaotic and troubling things she is feeling. She is allowed to address it the way she wants. She’s never going to lose custody of her kids because he does not want to raise the kids and he wants to be able to travel to different countries and do as he wishes. He loves being single and just calling his kids.
Well that is the reason he is not going after her online or in the press
We don’t know if he wants custody or not. Speculating he doesn’t is unfair. Imagine if he was getting sole custody, this woman would go berserk.
@Tanya Nguyen
Bollocks – his lawyers have told him to shut up and that is what he is doing
@Tanya Nguyen – How do you know he doesn’t want to be a full time dad and dumped the child rearing on her? He’s got a busy, successful career and she’s a thirsty wannabe a la Chrissy Tiegen. He has handled himself with total discretion and won’t sink to her level of public trashing and spreading malicious and fallacious misinformation. He’s clearly letting his lawyer handle the delicate negotiations about child custody arrangements and not using them as weapons like she is.
I find it kinda funny how last week public opinion was on Ioan’s side, then the news of the new gf broke out and the sympathy shifted to Alice, but she’s again squandered that by being insufferable, reminding everyome why he probably left in the first place.
And her years long public shaming of him only shows this marriage was doomed for years. Pretty costar only sped up thw process.
She is not a co-star as she was never on Harrow I think she had friends on set . She had just started acting in the last 2 years and her first big thing is a film with Elrond and Jason Stackhouse that is due to come out
I’ll love that you used their character names. I needed that laugh! 😩😂😂😂😂😂
Jason Stackhouse 🤣🤣🤣
All right then Ryan Kwanten and Hugo Weaving
I thought what you said was funny also, Fortuona. I actually googled Elrond to see if there was more than one. I hope you don’t think anyone is mocking you. Others found it funny too.
I just watched a video on YouTube of an interview she did on French TV. She speaks perfect French, she comes across as fun, witty and self-confident (not too mention self-deprecating).
So sad to see her now.
Alice’s got them crazy eyes.
This is on Ioan. I’m not saying he is not entitled to move because his ex can’t, but to do this knowing the reaction the ex will have is something else. Bianca is now in the crosshairs and the internet is forever.
He just met Bianca last August , moved back to LA in September and asked her for a divorce and had not seen Bianca again until 3 weeks ago because of the Australian travel restrictions (she has not seen her Dad and 3 siblings for 2 years)
So when is the time to start dating again ? If it up to Alice it will be never won’t it
He decided to announce his new relationship on his/his gf own terms before his ex would do it. It’s actually a good idea considering how she has acted so far, from claiming he was cheating with the actress playing his daughter on the show to making emails public: it was a matter of days before Alice would have “outed” them in a melodramatic way.
That’s not fair. Making things Instagram official is something most couples do and having to curtail your personal life because you’re afraid of what your ex will do is the mark of being emotionally abused.
“having to curtail your personal life because you’re afraid of what your ex will do is the mark of being emotionally abused.”
Yep.
@Maria – exactly. Mr. Jaded went through a horrible separation and divorce (she left him abruptly and tried to ruin him financially) but when we got together 6 months AFTER the divorce she started a campaign of lies and rumours that he had been cheating with me all throughout their marriage . She then started harassing us to the point where we had to get a restraining order against her, block her phone numbers and emails, and return all the presents she was sending him because she was trying to get him to reconcile. So I totally understand what Ioan is going through – he stuck it out for as long as possible but there’s no point in hanging on to a toxic relationship if it makes you unhappy.
this x1000 – saying ioan should hide his relationship to avoid triggering an online attack from his ex and her supporters is like saying women shouldn’t dress sexy to avoid getting assaulted
@Maria, Alpine, and Jaded, it blows my damn mind that people don’t see that this woman is EASILY cruising for a domestic violence restraining order.
This is narcissistic abuse of children. Period. End of story. Her children are going to be removed, especially if this divorce was filed in California.
People can feel bad for her for what she’s been through, but her behaviors are indicative of an abusive person.
I fought somebody like her for years in a California court. The Ex better be working to free those kids. She will escalate every time he demonstrates that her public humiliation of him doesn’t make him comply, but he has to not care. He has to stay focused and quiet if he is going to save them. If he does it right, we will continue to hear little to nothing about her behavior or the case from his publicist and/or attorney.
He hasn’t been complying for a while. She is getting worse and will get worse unless she gets a lawyer who can control her.
@Christina
“People can feel bad for her for what she’s been through, but her behaviors are indicative of an abusive person.”
I’ve been through this with my own parents, my father was a narcissistic POS who was cheating on my mum for 2 decades (of which my mum knew nothing until before the separation), who systematically abused his wife and children and who made himself the victim in all the situations.
I hope her children will be removed as soon as possible or they will end up in therapy for years. Firsthand experience, unfortunately.
@AlpineWitch, your are a SURVIVOR baby! Sending you hugs. I am so proud of every kid who made it out alive and who understands.
You are brave to have endured that. Blessings to your mom. I stayed thinking it would be less dangerous, but it just got worse. And it got even worse after I left, but my kid is alive, and so are you!!! <3<3
@Christina
“I stayed thinking it would be less dangerous, but it just got worse. And it got even worse after I left, but my kid is alive, and so are you!!! <3<3"
My mum thought the same until one day she decided it was time to go.
Thanks for your kind worse and sending hugs back to you and to your daughter! <3
Even though I don’t approve of cheating (I prefer clean breakups) sometimes they are necessary. If I had been married to someone like her I’d have cheated, too, just to feel some sort of happiness. Is it the best way to go? No, but sometimes we got to do what we can to be happy.
I don’t agree. I don’t think it’s ever okay to cheat on your spouse. I get cheating when you’re younger and you’re not married and you’re not in a long term relationship, because that seems to be how teens and young 20s operate: they don’t have the maturity to just break up with someone, so they sort of start the new relationship while hoping their current boyfriend/girlfriend will just sort of drift away. But once you’re an adult and you’re married with kids, at least formally separate if you’re so unhappy that you feel like you need to cheat. If the marriage is so irreparably unhappy that the only way you can feel happy is with someone else, then separate and divorce. Cheating is not only an emotional risk for the partner you’re cheating on, but a physical risk with STIs, etc. I just don’t think it’s ever okay once you’re committed and married.
I understand they were separated but she would not accept that and even now, when papers have been filed, she still clings to this idea that he owes it to her to remain married to her.
I don’t think Cee is saying cheating is *okay* or morally right in some situations, just that it’s understandable why it might help a person exit a really toxic situation like this one – it’s empathy, not approval.
He cheated before though. So I don’t think think this is a case of poor guy trapped in a bad RS purely it’s just as much a case of a guy who never could keep it in his pants..
Two things can be true she can be problematic and he can be a cheater. ..
I only feel sorry for the kids they are the ones truly trapped in this mess.
With whom has he cheated, and when?
Oh, I agree, both things can be true.
I’ve never seen anything about him cheating before. Where’s the proof?
“He cheated before though. So I don’t think think this is a case of poor guy trapped in a bad RS purely it’s just as much a case of a guy who never could keep it in his pants..”
We don’t know if he cheated. However, we know that she cheated on her ex to be with him so… karma hits back or how you get them is how you lose them sort of situation…
This is one of the few cases where I think cheating was the only way out of the marriage. There’s clearly not any reasoning with someone who even disregard court orders. The woman is unhinged.
Her behaviour online is not much different to that of an anonymous troll. I can’t imagine what it is like living with her. When news first broke of her divorce, I honestly thought it was he had become fed up of her online behaviour. She is truly unhinged.
Maybe because of my life history- I get why he left but he needs to get his kids. It really, really sucks to be left behind with the angry, unhinged parent.
I think it would be very difficult for him to win a sole custody case without a psychiatric evaluation of the mother… which she will never agree to.
They may both have to go through evaluations if there’s going to be a long, public and acrimonious custody battle, which seems to be Alice’s wish.
@AlpineWitch, I know it’s taking the law a long time to catch up with technology, but I wonder if the judge (or whoever) would be able to take her *many* unhinged, public outbursts like tweets into consideration? IMO they are relevant, especially relating to the children; she clearly isn’t thinking about how this is affecting her daughters, she’s too far off the rails. Putting all of this out into the public is harmful to them, so I think they should be admissible in any custody negotiations. But I have no idea if divorce/family law has evolved to the point where this would be allowed.
@Lorelei
“But I have no idea if divorce/family law has evolved to the point where this would be allowed.”
I’m no lawyer either. In any case, if she continues to put everything online, there’s a case for slander or even a restraining order.
I don’t like how she uses the children it seems manipulative but she also seems like she’s spiralling and is not mentally all there. Even her appearance lately seems to suggest she’s not well. So I don’t want to bask in her misery.
He has the right to move on but I think it’s naive to think he plays no part in this toxic mess just because he doesn’t air his dirty laundry in public.
He cheated on her before even early in their marriage ( there were kiss and tells in British newspapers). So I don’t find it hard to believe he cheated again and this is his jump off. Also the fact that he’s pushing 50 and hooking up with an aspiring actress 20 years younger screams midlife crisis.
From were I am sitting she’s to blame for making this mess public but both seem to blame for what looks like a toxic marriage.
Team kids!
“Also the fact that he’s pushing 50 and hooking up with an aspiring actress 20 years younger screams midlife crisis.
They both look pathetic.”
48 and 30 is a rather large gap but it’s hardly pathetic, imo. He’s not cycling through a bunch of 21-year-olds.
And she has just started acting in the last 2 years
Apparently she is 29 and also someone who seems to have just started out as an actress. She been an extra on the show where he is the lead for 3 years and got an acting credit more recently.
There’s definitely a uneven age and power balance here.
She was never on Harrow
Ok you seem to know a lot about this person. I just read what her friend said and she apparently was an extra on Harrow 3 years ago.
Well if you look on IMDB it says she never got any type of credit for Harrow if she was even on it. So the question of implied power imbalance doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. Maybe he cheated with her, I don’t know, but it’s not like he brought her to the producers and was like GIVE MY GIRLFRIEND A LEAD ROLE!
I wasn’t suggesting she got a credit because of him. And apparently I read that wrong she was an extra on his show not an actress. But He’s the lead she is actress at the bottom of the pile with only extra work and 3 credits to her name there is definitely a huge power balance between them.
I mean, I suppose there is one just because he’s high profile and she isn’t but I’m not seeing how there is an abuse of it which is therefore playing out in their relationship. They’re coworkers who got together. It happens. She’s hardly an ingenue.
I don’t think anyone is saying he didn’t play a part in this in their private life (Whatever that part may be), but the airing of it is the biggest crux because it’s a manipulative play and will harm their children the most. Alice has been the most guilty of that.
@Pilar – where are you getting this “abuse of power” nonsense? You don’t know them personally and just because Bianca doesn’t have his level of fame doesn’t mean she isn’t an accomplished, interesting and NORMAL person in her own right. Also, I don’t put much credence in tabloid blinds insinuating someone is having affairs, all those rags are good for is lining my cat’s litter box, so unless you have incontrovertible proof that you’re willing to share then I’m not buying the serial cheater stuff.
I think 29 or 30 is old enough to date him. She’s not 18 or even 21. Technically, the age gap is large. But since he looks good and is comparable to any good-looking man of any age, I get why she wouldn’t mind doing so. When the guy is much less handsome and not in shape, I’m generally more puzzled as to why a younger woman would want to date someone farther from her age range. When he’s as youthful looking as the woman and there’s no disparity in physical appearance, I shrug. In the above photo I can see why she’s chosen to date him. It makes sense.
Her very public reaction hurts her in the eyes of the public, and is damaging to her children. If she’s like this with strangers, imagine what she’s telling her daughters.
She needs to be saying all of this to her therapist, not the world at large.
This woman is obviously hurting. I have compassion for that. However, she can’t keep her story straight. First, she was blind sided. Now it’s two years of him not wanting to be intimate with her? She knew he wanted it to be over for quite some time.
I saw pics of her today and she’s really not looking well. I feel for her tbh. He’s always had a rep for cheating.
The other thing to mention is menopause. It creates havoc for many women and can come across as mental instability. Anger /rage is very common. I know some women who did dreadful things during meno /breakup but they didn’t have an audience to see it. Plus weight gain. It really sucks. She’s suffering and needs medical help (most likely) and support from friends.
Where did this rep from cheating come from ?
Ioan’s (or Bianca’s) agent/bff/something is in the house 🙄
He doesn’t have a reputation for cheating. But if he did, and she kept him, she got what she played for.
No someone who would like to know who he cheated with prior to all this
I disagree on the cheating
Fanciful, spill the tea already! :p
There was a kiss’n’tell in the papers way back, from when he hooked up with an air stewardess or something similar. But that was right at the start of their relationship, possibly just before (and Alice was still with Olivier when she and Ioan first got together so ít was a bit messy all round).
So he never cheated on her then .
20 years ago a single man was hooking up with a stewardess when his future wife was living with another guy ?
If he has a reputation for cheating, then Alice should be relieved that the marriage is over. If he’s as terrible a husband as she claims, then he’s not her problem anymore.
She’s in California. All she has to do is not contest the divorce, and then she can move on with her life. If he’s a terrible husband and terrible person, then she should be happy that the only times she’ll have to deal with him is when it comes to the kids. But what I’m really interested in knowing is this supposed reputation for cheating that he allegedly has.
The fact that her soon-to-be ex is in a whole other continent should be a relief. Most people dealing with divorce still have to live in the same city and sometimes even the same house until the divorce is finalized. I just hope she goes to a therapist to get her head right. If she wants to fight it, or fight for what’s hers, these outbursts on social media aren’t the way to go. Because now, if she keeps showing her instability, she could end up losing her kids. Does she want to lose her kids? Because if she’s saying all this crap about the dad, publicly? The next question will be is what is she saying in the home.
I think the fact that he is on another continent is for his safety – can u imagine her behaviour is he physically in LA.
Similar thing happened to a former friend (who is a lot like Alice) when she got divorced from her first husband – he told her the marriage was over and then quickly left to start a new life in Australia and only communicated threw lawyers. Knowing her I can only imagine the harassment he would have been subjected to if he was in the same location as her.
I feel sorry for their 2 daughters – being with their mother is not safe or healthy for them.
Yes, @Bex and Digital Unicorn. I think he had the chance to get away from a much worse problem by not being on the same continent as her, AND a normal person would be grateful he’s gone.
She is not normal. She is a narcissist.
A comment by Meghan on this thread about how she dealt with a divorce is what normal people do. You say, “Daddy is just being a butthead. Let’s go play.” You talk to your circle of friends and relatives for support, or you get therapy. You repost inspirational or a few angry memes on Facebook. But you don’t go to war on social media.
Humiliation is her way of controlling him because she can’t show up on his doorstep.
Maybe you’ve heard of his cheating ways but clearly the majority of us haven’t. I had never heard of Ioan Gruffud being a cheater either. He is not a household name at all in the US, the average person would be like “Ioan who???” He’s maybe C-list at best (not a knock on his talent but looking at his filmography he’s barely been in anything I’ve seen). The only thing I know him from is Forever, a show that lasted one season and that most people don’t remember. I didn’t even know he was married or had kids until Alice Evans started tweeting he had abandoned her and this site started covering it. I must have looked him up on Wiki when I briefly watched Forever but I didn’t remember he had kids or was married. Now I’m not saying he isn’t a cheater but fact of the matter is his “well-established” reputation that you seem to know is not common knowledge.
He’s much better known in the UK and I know him more for UK based shows starting with the Horatio Hornblower series. But I can’t say I was really aware of any gossip about him cheating, especially during the marriage. I would think the DM would cover it since they focus on UK actors.
I understand how she might be upset that he’s moved on and there may have been cheating. But I don’t think making it that public helps anyone, especially the kids.
Why is this comment about menopause being an issue so quickly dismissed? Long live the internalised patriarchy I guess? Dismissing it because you think she’s crazy is not fair. It could be a very important factor in her case – or not, I have no idea. But just dismissing it because you’re Team Ioan is just ignorant. Where’s the nuance here?
I have no horse in this race, Alice should seek professional counseling if she’s hurting this much – ‘crazy eyes’ or not. And Ioan is no price in my opinion either. Working abroad and therefor not seeing his daughters a lot, in a way seeking refuge from a dying marriage, is rather cowardly. And getting into a relationship with a 20 year younger GF is a cliché. Esp. with the quote: ‘Thanks for making me smile again.’ It may be true, but it makes me roll my eyes as I read the same exact quote from another divorced guy (who met someone else) I know not that long ago. Also on Insta. So it’s not particular original.
Also, you shouldn’t rely on someone else to make you smile ‘again’. Find some happiness in yourself first. Or maybe try to live a life where you can spend more time with your children. They might make your smile as well. Just saying. And I’m honestly Team NOONE. (Although I’m probably Team Kids and Team ‘Find Your Freaking Own Happiness’)
How is this man’s name pronounced? Ian?
Yo-han Gruff-ud
Thanks
Yo-ann Grif-fifth
THIS is the way.
@Steph, thanks for asking because I had no clue how it was pronounced either!
I’m Welsh and a Welsh speaker and it’s pronounced the way SV has written it. It’s the Welsh variant of the name that in English is written as “John” so, as an exercise, if Ioan Gruffudd’s name were to be Anglicised it would be John Griffith.
I wonder if he felt that she was HIS “twin soul.” (such a twee phrase, I can hardly write it) I’m guessing no, or at least, not in a very long time.
@Merricat, is “twin souls” a common expression? I had never heard of it in my life until I read this post. I’d only ever heard it referred to as soulmates. In any case, ITA with you, it IS irritatingly twee.
It’s certainly a common expression in Spanish. I am assuming it is also in French, and she speaks French.
You know… I had a mother who reacted like this to a cheating father and all I can say is: start the therapy fund NOW for these kids. He has every right to have a new relationship and move on, but he’s in lala land with a 30 year old girlfriend and mom is having a public breakdown which I’m sure the children are baring the brunt of at home. Neither of these people is acting like a responsible parent and I know first hand what those kids are dealing with. I hope they get good help and support as adults.
He is in France filming a TV show
I saw an article about this and clicked on a Tweet or Instagram post she made of a picture of her with their two girls. The first sentence was, “No dick in this house!” The post was about how the house is falling apart, but they don’t care because the three of them are together.
He better invest some time with those girls and get custody dealt with. They will probably be in court until the girls are 16-18. It looks like Alice will keep up her mental breakdown in public. That will give Ioan lots to file about and she will lose custody.
She in immersing her children in her pain. I don’t care how hurt she is. The kids do not deserve this. And no one gets to control anybody, much less an ex husband. She needs to stop calling him her husband. He’s not. Denial is going to kill her. Her mental health is extremely concerning, and judges NOTICE because it’s supposed to be their job.
My ex acted like her. My daughter HATES her father and wants nothing to do with him. He eventually went after our daughter when she was old enough to have opinions and stopped siding with him. The kids will see. They are about the age my daughter was when we were in the deepest phase of the DVROs and custody.
“She in immersing her children in her pain. I don’t care how hurt she is. The kids do not deserve this. “
This times a thousand.
Carrie, you and my kid are heroes in my book to have made it through.
Thank you, Christina <3 All I can say is, mental health is so important. My mother had the financial resources and access to it when her marriage fell apart, but she neglected to take advantage. Instead, she poured all of her unhealed trauma into and onto us, and at 31, I am only beginning to unwind the consequences in my own life. Get help! That's all I can say. Get help for yourself if you need it and encourage others to seek help as well. This story is triggering for me because yes it's gossipy and frothy but those poor girls are experiencing some very real trauma at home because of all of this, and I truly pray they have the strength and resources to seek out mental health services when they're older.
@Carrie, my kid didn’t understand her dad’s extreme humiliation of me when she was little, so she believed him even though the professionals were clear that he was dangerous. It’s the police who didn’t believe me. He had never hit me, so it was hard to prove he was dangerous. When she got old enough to question, he strangled her and knocked her out cold. It happened just before I got her back and had to deprogram her with three therapists. She is afraid that he will kill me because of how he spoke about me to her. She was 12 when I was finally able to get her out. She is an adult now.
I say this to say that I a lot of kids can’t know that the sane parent is fighting with everything they have to save their babies from narcissistic, potentially violent ex’s. We are not allowed to discuss it because it belittles the other parent, and it hurts our chances of saving you and all the kids who are like you were.
Thank you for sharing your story, and for replying to my comment. Your comment is deeply humbling, and it makes me remember and respect what happened to my kid. How can you kids know when most people, including judges, initially believe the dramatic narcissist?
@Andrea, I hope you see this:
You are a fucking miracle. I believe you.
@Andrea, I hope you see this:
You are a fucking miracle. I believe you.
I had an acquaintance who acted like this when her husband cheated and left her for another woman. Ruined her children’s relationship with him in the beginning but ultimately ruined their relationship with her as well.
People who are emotionally abusive to an ex will not be able to control that impulse when their children start to become independent thinkers. Narcissists aren’t curable.
It is simply impossible. I never question anyone about why they aren’t close to parents who are alive. Never. People can be incredibly cruel to their children.
@Cristina
“I never question anyone about why they aren’t close to parents who are alive. Never. People can be incredibly cruel to their children.”
This is so refreshing to read!! All of the questions I’ve got in life… why I was estranged from my father, after being physically and emotionally abused by him since I was a baby, and nobody would consider it serious enough to cut ties with a parent.
Alpine, my ex used to say, “The lawyers are making you do this.” Er, I was directing the lawyer? Other people would say, “Why don’t you just (blank)?” Because this person is dangerous. When you haven’t lived with a monster, you don’t know what they look like in public. Newsflash: they fake an outside persona and torture spouses and children behind closed doors.
Why do people gaslight victims? They want you to “get over it” and don’t understand how someone could cut off a parent.
If you have been through it, you respect other peoples feelings. Period. Or you become the monster, which also happens.
I have a very distant relationship with my gaslighting, manipulative, narcisstic mother. I cannot believe people still think I should give her a chance even when I tell them that she admitted to me at 20 that she physically and emotionally abused me for years because she finds me to be a love rival for my father and is jealous of me. She feels she is in constant competition with me as she did with my grandmother (my father’s mother) whom she wished dead for 20 years because he had a close relationship with her. Nothing will change this woman and I am 40.
One in eight grow up to abuse.
Ok, I get it, living publicly is part of the gig, but these people need to step away from the keyboard. Both of them. She needs to process elsewhere and unless he’s about to announce an engagement, I don’t see why he needs to make anything Instagram official. It’s ok for private lives to actually be private.
How can you keep your life private when your ex publishes screenshots of your emails and so on? He probably felt it was a better idea to announce a new relationship himself before she’d do it. She’d have claimed he was hiding the new gf in an attempt to gaslight her otherwise
He probably decided to announce his relationship on his own terms before his ex-wife can out them in the most unhinged way possible.
Should Megan fox had kept her relationship private because of her ex BAG?
It depends on what your objective is. If you don’t want to feed the beast, then don’t feed the beast. If I were friends with either of them, I’d tell them both to step out of the circus. There is nothing wrong with refusing to play into the media frenzy (or whatever you want to call this), even if your ex makes it all public. Not everything deserves a comment or a retort. Nor does every relationship need to be “announced.”
I refused to hide the fact that Mr. Jaded and I started a relationship 6 months after his wife abruptly dumped and divorced him. She’s been very public on social media about her fantasy version of how the marriage ended (he cheated with me, he dumped her, etc.) so I have no problem righting the wrongs and sticking up for myself. That would be ceding control of the situation to her.
@Jaded, you and Mr. Jaded are brave people. I LOVE reading about your experience because you endured.
We frequently judge people who move on.
We have to understand that no one should cower to abuse. I understand if there is a gun pointed at you or if you are over powered, but there is no other circumstance.
But that’s just the thing. He doesn’t need to step away from the keyboard because he hasn’t been posting non-stop shit on social media. This is almost 100% her.
I can’t even side-eye him for the 18 year age difference because all of my energy has to go to rolling said eyes at his dumb ex. Lawd. (I’ll get back to the age difference, though.)
Team kids. Everyone else kind of sucks here.
I know Alice isn’t sympathetic by any means, but my heart still aches for her. It sucks enough to be dumped, but having the whole world know about it must be humiliating. Plus, it sucks to be in your forties and see your desirability waning, and it must be especially hard being in an industry that only values you for your looks. He’s worked consistently through their marriage while she seems to be at home focused on the kids and now he’s off having a fun new romance and she’s still at home with no career prospects and her best years behind her. I hate to speculate, but given her age it’s entirely possible that she’s going through menopause which can be enough to make some women breakdown in the best of circumstances.
I know Ioan isn’t A list, but I hope he makes enough money for the massive therapy Bill’s his daughters will need.
She made it all public .
I agree. Not necessarily on my heart aching for Alice, but Team Kid all the way. Just because one sucky parent is off the charts with bad behavior doesn’t make the other sucky parent’s behavior ok.
Alice is a horrible person and cray AF, but I have little respect for cheaters (and I don’t care how crazy their spouse is, there are better ways to deal with that especially when kids are involved). And don’t get me started on the age difference between him and his new GF…he’s not exactly setting a healthy example for his kids by leaving their mother for someone young enough to be his daughter.
Guys, can we please stop labeling him a cheater? Alice has told so many contradicting stories and lies it’s impossible for anyone to know. As someone who was falsely accused of cheating and had to deal with other people just lapping up my ex’s false accusations as truth, it’s so frustrating for me when people just immediately jump to the conclusion that someone is a cheater without any solid evidence to back it up. Yes he has a new girlfriend but he and Alice have been separated for almost a year, maybe longer. Maybe he is a cheater, but I’ll reserve my judgment for when the actual truth comes out. It would be so nice if we could all do that!
It is never smart to totally give up your career for kids—especially if you have a short career window. It sounds like she went all in on being wife/ mom and didn’t take anything else in consideration. And if she switched her desire for mass love to getting it exclusively from family, well, there you are. Sounds like she seriously lacks perspective.
Two wrongs don’t make a right, whatever the situation is. Maybe he cheated, maybe he didn’t. His new girlfriend wasn’t even on the Australian TV show he’s been doing from what I gather? It’s not a great look that she is 30 and he is 48, yes she’s an adult of course and can make her own choices. But to know your SO is debuting a much younger woman has to hurt, I think any one of us in this situation would feel crappy about it.
But Alice Evans makes it hard for us to sympathize with her. It’s absolutely horrendous to have your husband gone months at a time while you hold down the fort and stay home with the kids in a city where you barely know anyone, only to have the husband announce he wants to leave you. For all we know, this woman has no friends due to her behavior/personality though. She hasn’t had much success with her career and the roles are drying up while his seems to be doing pretty well. But all she does is run to social media and accuse Ioan of things we have no way of knowing are true because Ioan is doing the sensible thing and refusing to engage with her on social media. Plus she has a history of problematic behavior it seems. I can’t imagine what it must be like to be her daughter and have her trashing their dad on social media, it must be excruciating. Why does she live in LA if they have no ties there? I would imagine her immediate family is in the UK. Why not move back there?
“I would imagine her immediate family is in the UK. Why not move back there?”
To be honest, what if the family didn’t want her back?
Precisely.
She doesn’t seem to have a good relationship with her family (or didn’t, perhaps she patched things up). She seems to resent that Gruffudd has a good relationship with his folks.
And eventhough she’s lived in LA for at least a decade, she has hardly any friends there.
This is all based on her Twitter oversharing.
So…Having a terrible family member, having problems making new friends… That happens. But when all the people around you avoid you, then chances are you’re the problem, not them.
She literally said he promised his daughters he would never date. One that’s unlikely and two what the hell- she seems to think he doesn’t want her so should be alone forever.
Not a fan of either but I really feel for those children.
Someone that handsome not dating? That’s not going to happen…
Oh I side-eyed her saying this so hard. I don’t care if he banged half the cast of his show; you don’t weaponize your children.
Number one I highly doubt he said it, more likely said there’s nothing to worry about or similar. And two? If at their age they were asking that about him dating it’s likely because MOMMY was asking that about him dating.
Look if this involved just a couple of adults I would just laugh and roll my eyes. But there are about a million warning flags as to how she’s dragging the kids into this. Red flags at every turn. It’s really disturbing.
“Behind ALL OUR BACKS”. Stop dragging your children into this mess. Your marriage failed, I’m sorry, it sucks, i know. Focus on being a good co-parent for your children’s sake.
He’s a very handsome guy. That’s all I got. Extremely shallow, but there it is.
He’s way better looking than that other British dude with dark hair, Dominic something-something who was with Lily James.
I can kind of see why the wife is still attached to and besotted with him…. I probably would be too. Honestly, I think I would find it hard to let him go too…on a purely shallow level, I sympathize.
I find Twitter ramblings hard to read in general and I usually give up trying to figure out what happened as it’s a strain for my eyes, but the photos of his face are pretty easy to follow!
love this wholesome take lol
If he literally would not have sex with her for two years, that suggests they’ve been separated for awhile? Something’s not adding up. Most people who straight up cheat are still having sex with the person they’re cheating on.
It’s pathetic and enraging that men systematically create a family with a woman, use her up, grind her into the dirt and then trade her in for a younger model who doesn’t really know him well enough to resent him yet. THEN to make the whole thing so much better, people pick apart the discarded wife for not processing her trauma in the “right way”. I hate people.
I agree with you. He is not a good person.
There is absolutely no evidence that this happened. It’s pretty dicey as to whether she was even single when she started dating him, so anything thrown at him can be thrown at her too.
Processing trauma doesn’t mean you have the right to essentially terrorize someone publicly. That’s absolutely not how this works. And she has thrown some awful accusations against him, like implying that he abused their children. She’s intruded on their communication with him too and aired her children’s personal problems.
If she wants to write essays about her pain she can do that, but this is abuse.
Referring to his new partner as the naive “younger model” is pretty misogynist too.
She pursued him and dumped her fiance to be with him. I’m not on any cheater’s side but hey, she got her karma back.
@Maria
“If she wants to write essays about her pain she can do that, but this is abuse.”
It feels like she is using Depp’s tactics against Heard, “I cannot have you so I will ruin you”.
@Bears, those guys absolutely exist. This may or may not be the case here, though.
I won a 99 year domestic violence restraining order to protect us. He caused people in my community to believe I was a horrible person marrying a pedophile at the peril of my child.
Again, I WON because he tried to turn our community against me and he is really the one who is dangerous.
From my view, she is invested in humiliating him. And he remains silent about almost everything. He came out with a girlfriend. He is on a different continent.
Why in earth would anyone want to be married to someone who doesn’t want you? Why does she need to control his behavior publicly?
Self love is important. There are awful, abusive men who don’t see women as whole people, I agree. But this is not normal, contrary to what we have been taught to believe.
People change, people fall out of love and marriages fall apart. They’ve been married 2 decades and seems he wasn’t even around that much in recent years and already telling her he wanted out of the relationship. Sure, he sounds like a jerk but what exactly are we expecting the alternative outcome to be? Pretend to still be interested in his wife and wait til the kids turn 18 before pulling the plug? Never date anyone again?
Yes, it sucks for the “discarded” partner. Yes, she has a right to process her feelings publicly if she wants. Most of the criticism I see here is about how the kids are being impacted by her making everything public. And after seeing her post about how her daughter isn’t doing well at school – a private detail that can cause her child to get ridiculed by her peers – I really don’t think she has her children’s best interest in mind.
I wish she would stop dumping the pain on her kids. She posted this on twiter about her daughter:
“By the way, Elsie is still inconsolable. I can’t send her to school today. Her whole little world has collapsed”
This is not ok. I doubt that these kids would be “inconsolable” that their dad has a new gf if their mother wasn’t acting out like that in front of them.
Absolutely and if she was really able to see what’s best for the kids she would be reassuring them what ever happens on their parents relationship each parent will always love and be there for them .
Then vent to friends/a therapist or anyone else appropriate not the kids. They shouldn’t be made to suffer additional upheaval because their mum wants to hurt their dad- no matter what the background
She is clearly not doing well. It probably doesn’t help that she is menopausal at 50. But, if she is so awful why has he left his children with her? Easy for him to bugger off and leave it to her to pick up the pieces.
I didn’t know menopause was making women become right-wing racists (google her support of Laurence Fox and her anti-Meghan comments).
Lol, ya think??? Menopause was bad, but it didn’t make me racist, lol!!!
I’m so busy worrying about the weight gain, the mood swings, and my bits drying out. I forgot to worry about the hormonally induced racism.
LOL!! I just had an early hysterectomy due to endometriosis and so am dealing with early menopause right now. Though my sex drive is currently non-existent, I haven’t felt any sudden urges to burn any crosses on my neighbor’s front lawn. So far so good!!
I agree with you. He is not a good person.
She constantly weaponizes their children. SHE is not a good person.
They can both be not good people (and I think that’s the case here, albeit on different levels). It’s not a mutually exclusive thing.
I looked at the new girlfriend’s Instagram page.
Yeah, her Insta would probably make be break down too. She looks mature in the photo above and less in-your-face (which is why I was wondering why the wife was complaining about her lost youth), but in the other Insta shots the girlfriend has some bikini shots that would make me go a bit mental. She’s definitely much younger than the current wife, judging by some of the more revealing, “fun” snaps. The glasses threw me off, but she has a certain presence in her photos that would likely make an ex-wife go a little ….Lifetime movie-ish.
I’m not sure what to think now. I can kind of see why the wife has gone a little crazy. Still, maybe she has some friends who can yank her Twitter away from her. A good friend should — not sure if she has any though,
If Jeniffer Garner can keep it together, so can Alice Evans.
This is true too.
I find this guy much, much more attractive and stable than Ben Affleck so that might explain why I’m wondering how I would react and how unhinged I might get in the same situation – ha ha.
HA! I knew there was a girlfriend in the wings. Hot men with options do no stay single for more than 3 minutes.
That he has not seen for 13 months
Men are incapable of being on their own. They overlap people.
That’s the truth. Women always have options too, hot or not, there’s always a man looking for a girlfriend-mommy, but that’s the problem. A quality guy has quality women looking to date him. A quality woman has to weed through all the energy sucking men to find a good one. Meanwhile lesbians out here scratching their heads at what straight women tolerate.
Da biotch is getting what she deserves. Haa-Ha! Dont come for Meghan, The Duchess of Susses and karma wont come for you.
I used to feel sorry for her when this whole fiasco started because it sounded like she was blindsided by a cruel ex. She’s obviously still devastated. But as time went on, I noticed her behaving more and more like her character Esther on The Vampire Diaries/The Originals who spent centuries trying to destroy her children. Except she’s using social media to try to destroy/control her ex and is coming across as totally unhinged instead, pouncing on any and all news about him and constantly putting her side of the story out while bashing him. She has become the female Johnny Depp, without the rabid fan base. As usual, it’s the kids who are the true victims and will read all of this someday.
She actually has a pretty rabit fanbase. Obviously just about 20 people, but they are INSANE. They are so mentally disturbed that they and Alice see each other as friends.
This is why I never wanted to get married or have kids. I’m sure a lot of people will think that’s really sad, but I grew up in a time when the burden of child rearing still fell almost exclusively on the mother, which more and more meant divorced and single mothers. I saw how stressed out my mom was and the moms of many of my friends. And it wasn’t something I wanted for myself. I don’t know anything about Alice Evans and maybe she was really difficult to be married to. But I suspect in the divorce she’s still the one taking primary parental responsibilities, having to be an emotional rock to the children while she’s in pain. And for that my heart goes out to her.
@BettyRose, it does appear that she’s taken on all of the parenting responsibilities. In a stable relationship, that would be tough. Throw in the pandemic and a divorce – that could be nightmarish for anyone. It probably doesn’t help that she and the girls seem pretty isolated in LA.
If I were her, I’d move to the UK, where she has friends and family. Kids are pretty resilient in new settings, for the most part. Her current living situation seems toxic.
I’m not a fan of hers or her husband, and I don’t like the fact that she piled onto Meghan on social media. I do feel badly for this couple’s kids, though. Alice and Ioan need to put the girls’ needs above their own feelings.
His lawyers are telling him not speak her . Get it on text/paper
And is does not matter to how she lies she tells it is strange how people will just let her do it
And it is not her choice to just move the kids . Remember Kelly Rutherford and what happened to her
“But I suspect in the divorce she’s still the one taking primary parental responsibilities, having to be an emotional rock to the children while she’s in pain.”
Humiliating their father online is not good parenting. She’s an inch away from parental alienation. And if she keeps doing that constantly, she might lose custody of the kids altogether.
I’m sure that’s true, but I can’t imagine the pain either. My college boyfriend and I broke up in a heated argument and I wasn’t nearly over it when he started dating someone else. Years later he told me he always felt like he was cheating on me when he was with her, but at the time I was devastated. I tried to get over him by getting “under” others as the saying goes, but to this day, even though we’ve long since made up, I can still feel that hurt. Okay I was 20 years old and a woman nearing 50 should be more developed emotionally, but I’m identifying with her despite knowing better.
But why totally take on parenting responsibilities in the first place, and give up your career? That is more often than not a bad deal for women.
Does she want him back? Since neither are that famous, I’m wondering why she would be acting out on Twitter unless she’s hoping for a reconciliation. Then again, talking badly about him on Twitter wouldn’t really get him back either. So that’s also a head-scratcher.
Neither are that famous, so I don’t see how dragging him on Twitter would have any effect whatsoever on his career. Even if you’re Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt or J-Lo and Ben Affleck, or Actress X and Ben Affleck, I’m not affected by personal animosity between actors to stop watching a movie because of it.
if she’s hoping to damage him publicly, I don’t see how she could in that regard either. He’s not famous enough for anyone to care. He is handsome though. And at most I’d see people looking at his photo and thinking, “Hm. He’s cute. Maybe I’ll check out his show” and just ignore the stuff about the divorce since no one stops watching tv over divorces (there are so many in Hollywood). Wouldn’t she just be inadvertently drumming up interest in his show since there’s now a (handsome) face to attach to a particular production? I know I’ll be watching now…
I certainly don’t support cheating or him, but yes, she needs to stop telling everyone about her children having panic attacks (their business should NOT be public, their mental health issues should not be weaponized, and you are the one giving them panic attacks, ma’am) , and she needs to stop publicly tweeting to mutual friends “YOU KNEW.”
Girl, you cannot argue your way out of dumped.
She complained about his lack of honesty when he first announced that he wanted to separate ie no mention of third party but he was clear in the statement I no longer love you. Yes that is very sad to process after 20 years and 2 children but is there any good way of breaking up? They have been separated for 10 months so both are free to date anyone they please. Dating others is the next step towards acceptance that the split is final and you can co parent. your children but not control who your ex partner sees.
13 months .He told her in September and filed in Mrach that how log it takes to get these things ging – 6 months apart you can file
Pixie, yup. If he doesn’t want you anymore, why would you want him?
~@Kaiser
IG came back to LA in September 2020 and 2 years ago he told The Graun that their marriage was in trouble ,she phoned the set and demanded he come back in the midst of her supporting Fox and he asked her for a divorce . It takes 6 months to file for one in Cali and he filed in March
I was a friend of a close family member of Alice’s about 20 years ago. They found her a difficult diva then so it’s not new.
God, how MORTIFYING for their children, mom dumping her TMI all over social media like that.
This woman is unhinged. It appears to me that she’s been batsh** for years and he’s finally over his Stockholm Syndrome and has managed to extricate himself from her grip. If she thinks it’s okay to behave like this publicly, I can only imagine what kind of crazy stuff she’s been doing privately for YEARS.
Yep. It reminded me of a divorce case I covered for one of my clients once. I am a court reporter. I took days and days of depositions. The husband was successful. Not rich, but comfortable. He and his wife were around 50. The divorce had been going on for a year. He had an affair and was with a 35-ish woman, so not someone in her 20s. His wife was average looking, a little weight on her. One kid out of the house and one kid still at home, with some issues. So, at first glance, I felt for the wife: a husband leaving her when the kids were almost grown, for another woman. Deep into the depositions, boy, did that change. In my mind, it became: How in the world did he stay with her as long as he did? Usually that reason is people have kids and finances all tied up, and years go by before you know it. A career keeps you busy and occupied also. But he fell in love with a co-worker and left. Not the best thing to do. Nope. But that’s the way it happens a lot of times when people have kids. You stick it out because you have a family.
The wife was such a narcissistic and selfish woman. It boggled the mind the things she was saying and doing and had done for years and years. This all through her own testimony in deposition The one thing I remember, though, is she saw none of that, refused to acknowledge her issues, which affected her special needs child, and the financial decisions which she kept making. Her own attorney was at his wit’s end. My sympathies ended up being with the husband. And he was a great father. I believe by the end the kid went and lived with him, not because he encouraged it, but because the teen was struggling and the father seemed to handle him better.
Alice seems to have some of that woman’s qualities as evidenced by her abysmal behavior for the better part of a year on twitter. The use of her children in some of those tweets is absolutely appalling to me. And so much of what she says are exaggerations or don’t match up to something else she says. I do feel for her losing a man she’s been with for 20 years. I do. But I also get why he probably left her.
Living apart half a year for four years I imagine didn’t help matters. It wasn’t like he was a redeye flight away and could spend weekends with his family while filming the TV show. It does in a lot of celebrity marriages. I believe Gillian Anderson named that as the reason for her divorce once.
But overall I do believe he just couldn’t deal with her anymore. Did that new girl come into his life before he left? Sure. But I highly doubt it was three years or even two. Who knows? It ‘s more believable that in this particular marriage he was ready to leave and this girl was the catalyst in 2020, I don’t believe Alice’s story that she was blindsided by him leaving. She was just shocked he finally did it. You can want a divorce, but finally walking out the door, like he did, with his little girls’ emotions to deal with, is always easier said than done and takes a while to finally do it. That doesn’t mean he isn’t narcissistic himself and has his own issues. I’m sure that’s true also.
I mean, people who are this public about their private lives when their private lives are a mess are not going to get much sympathy from me. Alice comes across as utterly unhinged and pathetic, and Ioan posting about his new girlfriend on instagram when he’s going through a divorce and knows how publicly unhinged and pathetic Alice is being is shady as fuck. Move on if you want to, but there are a whole host of actors with private lives no one knows anything about because they don’t share it with the public, and, ya know, that’s totally fine too.
Who knows why he is doing it. If she is this messy in public, she must be a nightmare in private. Maybe he is beyond desperate in getting her to accept that he is never coming back, maybe he is just an a-hole? We don’t know. At least she has stopped humiliating her kids by posting about the kids’ private struggles.
If I were the wife, simply the ages of the three would make me berserk, she 49, he 48 and the girlfriend 30. That would make me bitter. He looks better than his soon to be ex. That would also make me bitter. I think she needs a therapist first and to stop going on social media, especially as she’s so driven to do so. That’s a bad, self-destructive sign. Nothing can be taken back on the internet. They both need to be supporting the daughters emotionally and I’m not sure either are. Too bad for everyone.
If that top photo is Bianca and Ioan, they look very relaxed and in sync together.
Anyone who has sympathy for this psycho can stop, she’s now on Twitter letting his co-stars know her husband called them fat simply because they left a “heart” on his Instagram.
Meanwhile she plays the bruised, innocent victim. I think I loathe her?
She’s also started going in on Meghan again as of a few minutes ago. I can’t stop watching her Twitter, where’s she’s being egged on by a small handful of her “online friends” (other divorced women who cheer while she calls other women bitches and fat). She is one of the biggest wrecks I’ve had the pleasure to watch in a while.
Totally giving up your career for kids (especially if you have a short career window) is never smart. One of the reasons Angela Bassett and Courtney Vance are a savvy couple is because they plan and alternate who is at home with kids and who’s off working.
I think it’s a smart idea too, but it didn’t work so well for the Jolie-Pitts. They bragged about that fact for years, until the alcohol took over.
😔😔
That age gap with tge new gf. Predictable
If you marry someone for their looks you will most likely divorce them for the same reason after their attractiveness fades.
I’m guessing, based on her immature tweeting (what is she, 50?), that her personality isn’t that appealing.
I’m not putting all this on her as they seem to be birds of a feather.
“Still nothing.”
I can’t help looking at that statement from her and thinking she’s furious that her latest public howling still hasn’t managed to bait him into reacting to her.
Team Not-Foaming-At-The-Mouth. All he has to do is continue to shut up and he will compare extremely favourably to his ex.