There have been some questions/concerns about why we’re talking about Alice Evans and Ioan Gruffudd. First of all, I was uncomfortable with this story in the beginning, back in January, when Alice began throwing accusations at Ioan after he told her he wanted a divorce. She came across poorly, but I gave her the benefit of the doubt. All these months later, I’m still covering it because it’s in the public sphere, because Alice keeps making public statements online and in the British media, and because this has turned into one of the biggest divorce dramas of the year (and we’re in the gossip biz). Speaking of, Alice is now posting photos of Ioan’s girlfriend Bianca Wallace on her Instagram. And Alice’s social media messages have suddenly turned to whether or not she’s going to lose custody of her children. She posted this on IG, alongside a photo of Bianca.
This is my husbands new girlfriend. Look, I wouldn’t have minded if he’d come to me and said ‘listen, I think I’ve fallen in love with somebody else.”
But he didn’t. For 2 years he told people on the set of the show he was doing that I was an alcoholic, completely unhinged and a terrible mother.
This is so incorrect and so unkind.
Please / I know I am driving you nuts with these constant updates but I am being made out to be the very thing I am not.
I am the best mother and that is all I care about.
Now, suddenly, she cares about being seen as a good mother, all evidence to the contrary, and a direct contradiction to months of public statements she’s made. She’s thrown her daughters in the middle of everything, she’s openly admitted to interfering with her kids’ calls with their father, she makes claims of her girls’ school struggles (blaming Ioan) and she’s extremely online, against the advice of her own lawyers. I’ve said for months now that Alice is in very real danger of losing custody of her kids, and I hope Ioan’s lawyers have kept files on all of her social media and public statements. Alice has completely done this to herself and I think she’s only begun to realize that she’s in danger of losing custody.
PS… By Alice’s own ever-shifting narrative of the end of her marriage, Ioan absolutely did tell her for months that he wanted out, that he wasn’t in love with her anymore, that they needed to end things. She just refused to listen to him or believe him.
Aw! This used to be Elsie's favorite thing!
Bless… She still has the pictures at least, even if the Bogan took her fun away. pic.twitter.com/SLiaBtfW7r
— Alice Evans (@AliceEvansGruff) November 18, 2021
Photos courtesy of Instagram, Backgrid.
“Unhinged” is too kind for her. She really needs professional help because apparently, she is completely deranged.
If they have been separated since January, why is she going off the rails now?
I think she also thought she could brand herself as a champion of women who’d been dumped by their husbands. Her struggle attempts at girl power were pathetic. Videos of her behaving very badly and abusing people have been floating around the internet recently. Sadly she is too selfish and nasty to garner any lasting sympathy. I feel really sorry for her kids as she readily admitted poisoning them against their father and perhaps causing lasting psychological damage.
Elizabeth this Liz endorses every word of your comment. When you are a soulless narcissistic witch to others and are actively destroying your daughters psyche in real time and publishing it for the world to witness you can write off becoming the lynchpin for a women’s group
She’s a narcissist in full meltdown mode, spreading her rage far and wide, consumed with wrath because Gruffud got away, deranged with hate against a perceived usurper whom whe speaks of in the most disgusting of ways (and then deletes her tweets until next morning, and starts up again when she hits the wine in the evening), harrasses her *ex* husband far beyond restraining order territory, and is rapidly unspooling in the most public of fora because her ego can’t take it. I mean, this is dangerous.
I’m actually frightened for those children’s safety.
Right now she thinks the girls are magnets. Will she blame them eventually? Do all narcissists have a golden child and a target child/ren? How long before turns her rage on them if or when daddy wins custody? I think her anger would be truly terrifying and who would she unleash it on?
She’s going to lose custody of her kids over this. Maybe she’ll get joint custody, but it will either be 50/50 or he’ll get them 3/4 of the time.
@ Andrew’s Nemesis, that’s exactly what she is and what she is doing. AC attacks are extremely harmful, yet her IG post from earlier has already been deleted. AC is an absolute vile narcissist with every intention of playing the victim from here until the end of her life. Her caption with Ioan playing with their children and her claiming that’s been ripped from them, but at least they have the picture is playing victim 2.0. AC will never see the divorce due to her actions. No, she is the perfect wife and mother, per AC. I feel so bad for their daughters.
Does anyone know what the deleted top post was of?
As a mom …… good mothers are riddled with guilt and uncertainty and they try their best but know that they fall so far short from perfect. I have heard mama say that they try really hard. How much they love their children. How they want the best for them. How much they love them. (Again) and how they try. I don’t think I’ve ever heard a mom say she’s a great mom. They say that they are trying to be the best that they can be. But …. Red flag.
Yes, so much this. Objectively, I think I’m a good mom? I hope I am. I try to be. I am riddled with guilt and I second-guess myself all the time, but so far, I think I’m doing a good job with it. I can’t imagine ever taking to any forum and declaring myself “the best mom.” Especially if I was melting down in real time and blowing up my children’s relationship with their other parent instead of shielding them and safeguarding them from adult concerns. I know Alice has made a lot of noise about how she’s not obligated to make this “easy” for him and how she doesn’t have to be “quietly dignified” but good lord, woman. Love your kids more than you hate your ex. It’s parenting 101. Minor kids come first, period.
I think she’s having a bad experience with menopause. Some women get it really bad, especially with additional trauma from say a divorce, or this pandemic. She needs to see a doctor…
Nope, she’s just plain, old objectively awful.
Nope. The only thing menopause may have caused is a serious uptick in her already toxic behaviour and symptoms. The only doctor she needs to see is a therapist who is fully versed in treatment of severe personality disorders.
@ Miss Margo, she is not suffering from menopause. I went through menopause rapidly due to a partial hysterectomy at 34, and all I suffered from was awful hot flashes and insomnia. This woman is suffering from a deranged idea that her husband had been telling her he was unhappy, filed from divorce and she is angry that he left HER, bur she is posting that he left their children!! She is pinning every reason of the divorce on HIM and claiming that he cheated on her, well after their separation. AC is a narcissistic and vile human being using their children to hurt Ioan, but is mostly harming their children due to her daily binges of booze, SM attacks and using every opportunity to portray Ioan as the “bad” guy. Perfect example is her posting of this picture of Ioan with the girls and her stating that he has taken their “joy and happiness” away from them, but at least they have this picture!! She sees herself as the victim and this divorce is due to Ioan cheating on her, when he apparently wasn’t during their marriage, but now has a potential love interest after leaving in January.
I think I agree with Jaded – she is perhaps having a rough time with menopause, but I think the underlying issues are a personality disorder. Menopause would probably exacerbate her inability to control her emotions etc, (it does to me!!), but I don’t think it could cause the underlying behaviour and belief systems that seem like a really huge red flat for a PD.
I can see this. it was very very hard for me and many of my friends. I felt like I was losing my marbles.
we also do not know what their private relationship was like – what he might have said to her. it takes two to fight. it’s easy to see her as unhinged because she’s posting and he’s smart enough not to. but we will never know their true dynamic. I wish them all peace, especially the kids. gossip is fun and frivolous but as John Mayer of all people reminded us the other day, there are real people behind these stories and they feel real pain.
Seems like her lawyers may have gotten through. Shes in serious danger of losing those kids i think. I dont want to sound like I’m criticizing her appearance, but she looks like she drinks too much, the bloating and what not.
I would not at all be surprised if she drinks as her behaviour has been quite erratic. The meanness and crassness of her tweets are something else.
Oh that’s absolutely an alcoholic gut. Source: have one, am in the process of losing it.
@Lenora Good luck to you. I’ve been there myself. You got this.
She mentioned not being well enough to drive the kids to school one morning. She has also mentioned too much wine and then tweeting, so I don’t think she’s even trying to hide it. It’s just a sad situation all around and I’m starting to feel guilty for being entertained by it.
I think the pattern of her tweets getting increasingly frantic and deranged late at night might well suggest a booze issue. Also, she’s said she’s on a number of prescription meds, so the booze/meds combo won’t be great.
If she’s on anti-anxiety or anti-depressant meds they can also cause terrible bloating, so between them and the booze she’s playing with fire. Someone – a family member or a good friend – needs to do an intervention STAT or the minute Ioan gets back he’s going to take the kids. Then, of course, it will be a whole new slew of IG rants…”He’s taken the last precious things in my life, how can he be so cruel!! His girlfriend isn’t their mother!! My babies are going to be traumatized!!” etc. etc. I think she’s on the verge of having a complete psychotic breakdown.
IDK – the new photo of Bianca is next level to me, making me think nothing has changed and is in fact getting worse.
Also, it’s such a weird photo to choose – You can’t see anyone’s face, it’s all grainy. It’s all so weird.
I don’t even know which woman is Bianca. Alice just needs to stop. Bianca may need a restraining order as well as Ioan.
I agree. That looks like a big alcohol belly; the rest of her weight doesn’t match it. I hope she can get sober; it might really help her state of mind even though she thinks drinking is what is saving her right now.
Alice, if you are reading, it isn’t. It’s making things worse.
I was thinking the same thing. That and her face looks like it’s retaining water too. Maybe I’m just a fool, but I’m starting to feel bad for her.
I do feel badly for her because she’s dealing with something she may not even realize is impacting her choices. That being said, I think she’s a stone cold attention seeker, and is milking this for all it’s worth.
@ Bryn, AC had stated that she lays in bed all day drinking and posting on SM. If she is finally following her attorneys recommendations, that’s great but it won’t last long!! Her narcissistic behaviour will need to be unleashed as she won’t control it or try to do what’s best for their children.
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I side eye him a bit for leaving his children with her if she was a serious alcoholic when he left for work. But in the end we don’t know what kind of support network he may have organized for his daughters (nannies, school reports, parenting apps, lawyers, neighbours) and if her toxic behavior has escalated this much only recently, he could not have predicted that and he’s probably very anxious and worried now.
Frankly, I feel we on CB are now collectively on some sort of extended Child Protection Watch: please keep covering this until we know those girls are safe.
The new girlfriend must really like him to be taking this much online abuse.
Even though Alice doesn’t work and they girls are old enough to be self sufficient, they have a nanny and I suspect this is why.
Nannies aren’t the same as a parent. Although I completely understand why he left her based on her behaviour I am also not impressed with him posting about finally being happy again with his new gf while his kids are with an out of control mother and possibly some nannies. He deserves to be happy but even more so does his kids deserve a parent that protect them from all this.
Given her tweets about custody, I would say him keeping quiet about the kids means he’s working for them behind the scenes.
He left for work work because he has to support his children. When was the last time Alice had a job? Who do people think is maintaining the family? Maybe Alice has some money on the side to support her lifestyle, but on the outside looking in, it appears that Ioan is the one bringing in the money. If Ioan wasn’t financially supporting his kids people would call for his head on a spike and I’m sure Alice would absolutely put him on blast if he wasn’t. He doesn’t have Brad Pitt or Leo money, so that means he has to keep working to maintain himself and his family.
Somebody has to work in that family.
They are not poor people so I doubt he will go bankrupt just because he stops working for a bit to be there for his kids. And if it’s just about maintaining a certain lifestyle then I dont really understand the argument. Is it really more important that the kids go to fancy schools and live in a luxurious house than possibly traumatising them for life? All these comments about nannies and private schools sounds like the lifestyle he’s providing makes up for having one unhinged possibly alcoholic parent and one that isn’t around a lot.
In a normal divorce it’s good parenting to pay more attention to the kids who will be hurting anyway and this is a toxic divorce that probably will get uglier when they go to court.
Also it’s no wonder she is able to turn the kids against him if he’s not there. Kids will usually side with the primary caregiver and they probably also feel bad for her and possibly responsible for her if they are left alone with her in this state.
Doesn’t seem like they live an overly lavish life. The problem with acting is, you have to strike while the iron is hot. Actors don’t know how long they will be in demand. With this family I think there are things going on behind the scenes that we don’t know about. I imagine the attorneys are busy.
I don’t think they have much money, but I think she has a massive spending problem. She has a nanny from 9-5 for two school aged children, who are at school for most of that time! She buy $100 meal kits-not to mention the booze and the therapists, and the pills. So he has to work to keep a roof over the kids head. I do think he should act faster though. She has alienated one daughter and will probably do the same to the second one. He needs to speed the lawyers up and get the divorce and custody sorted asap.
The kids like to do pesky things like eat and live indoors with plumbing and electricity. They probably go to a private school, someone has to pay for those things so he works instead of burning through whatever they have saved, IF they have anything saved.
And he’ll have to maintain 2 households in the interim no doubt. So the nanny, tuition if they go to private school, activities, two homes, two sets of utilities, two cars, two grocery bills, etc.
I’ve never gone through a divorce so I have questions about visitation/custody when you’re separated but the divorce is still pending. Even if he wanted to, could he get a visitation or custody share agreement put in place that they would abide by until the divorce is finalized? Or do you just have to figure out something privately and personally with the other parent? I would imagine that in most cases, when mom and dad file for divorce, they work something out between them about where the kids will live and how often they’ll visit and stay with the other parent, etc. And then maybe this visitation schedule that they worked out on their own gets approved as the temporary visitation schedule until the divorce is finalized? And then the final divorce settlement would put in place a more permanent visitation/custody order?
It seems like he has some kind of visitation schedule, but she’s not really abiding by it if she’s not sending the kids to him (because they apparently “don’t want to go” unless he picks them up at her home?) or she’s interfering with it when she leans in on calls. Is this a court ordered visitation schedule that she has to abide by or is this just a personal thing they came up with together? What happens if it is court sanctioned visitation and she keeps violating it?
Can you basically only get visitation with your children while the divorce is still pending? Or is it possible to actually get some form of legal custody while the divorce is still pending? Since they’re still technically married is it assumed that they still share custody of their children? Or once you file for divorce and move out of the family home is that like you’ve given up custody?
This whole period in between filing and actually getting your divorce finalized seems like it depends a lot on the parents being good people who will willingly come to agreements that are best for their children.
Remember Brad and Angie’s ongoing custody battle where he had to be supervised and they had to do therapy and he needed to take substance abuse classes. That was all during the divorce. There’s some sort of agreement in place that she’s violating by leaning into the calls and not sending the kids to his place and demanding that he come to their marital home to pick them up. He wants zero contact with her and she’s using the kids as pawns to force him into contact with her. He might already have a restraining order against her and that’s why he keeps contacting his lawyer because she’s breaking it. He’s keeping quiet and if she has a restraining order against her it doesn’t fit her narrative so she wouldn’t tell us about it.
You can do a separation agreement that basically becomes the divorce after 12 months. You are both free to date after the agreement is signed. You still have to file but everything gets settled at the beginning. We did that because my ex didn’t want me to use infidelity as a “cause” (He was worried about how future descendents would view him LOL) and that kept me on his health insurance as well. After a 12 month separation, you can file with irreconcilable differences as a cause. I suspect any future grandchildren will know anyway as he is now dating someone younger than our kids and it’s bound to come up 😂
Does Ioan want primary custody of the kids? He travels for work, she has been the primary caregiver, even if she has a nanny or two, and is a SAHM. It seems his career is abroad more than in the US so if he went for full primary custody he would have to stay put most of the time so not to uproot the kids. She might not lose them, that’s what I’m saying.
Oh, she’ll lose them.
I don’t think we should be speculating, I’m sure he does.
I am betting at least in the beginning that he thought they could sufficiently co-parent while he travels for work (he is clearly the breadwinner so he has to work plus contracts, etc). But now? I imagine he is gunning for full and solo custody. The way she tweets/writes and how she looks, I know she is drinking HEAVILY.
She might not even look after them right now. she did say she has at least one nanny… imagine having to go through your parents breakup while your mother behaves erratically and your father is away. It must be devastating for them.
Kids need stability and attention. If they are under the care of one parent and that parent is drinking and spending all her time on social media, that’s taking away from the kids.
@Cee I agree with you. I don’t get the impression this is a man who necessarily wants primary custody. But perhaps I only have that impression because Alice’s is the main point of view we have access to and she portrays him as largely absent.
Yeah, that’s why I posted. I’m not saying he doesn’t love or want them, just that their arrangement clearly worked because, as the breadwinner, he needed to be away most of the time. I’m sure he would rather work close to his kids, but he still needs to earn an income to support them and pay her child support and alimony. So unless he completely changes his lifestyle, I don’t see how it could work.
I agree with Erica in that he might have believed they could co-parent but seeing how unhinged and out of control she is… he might be looking into different scenarios.
This is a sexist opinion, but do men with younger girlfriends want custody of their youngish children? I doubt it. He has never been their primary custodial parent, so why would he want that now? As an aside, I was talking with a newly divorced mom whose ex has custody of their children on weekends. She said she is enjoying more free time since the divorce than she ever had while married. Think about it.
@FHMOM, I hear that a lot from divorced women, and it’s ridiculously sad to me. Dads need to do better. I know if I ever get divorced I have no desire to marry again for that reason, it’s too much extra work being married, lol. Women still take on the majority of the mental and physical load for children.
Whole lot of projection here. All you need to do is read her tweets getting defensive about custody and her admitting she won’t listen to her lawyers about custody to know that he’s in all probability not trying to avoid custody.
He wanted 50/50 at first and she doesn’t want that, and she’s not interested in co-parenting.
CEE I imagine he wanted shared custody for those exact reasons in the beginning, but then this train load of crazy rolled him over. Honestly she is going to Tweet and Instagram her way to reduced custody’s if any at all, limited visitation and a box of restraining orders. I am not sure Ioan could coparent with this mess ongoing and may be forced to sue for sole custody and limited visitation by Mom until she gets it together. Leaving his kids in this mess would be horrible for them. They are targets as well as the trophies in this narcissistic war by their mother.
She really shouldn’t have published the other photo with the girl’s t-shirt not in place.
The best mother my ass.
Can you censor it here?
Also, can Ioan stop her from posting his photos? Is it legally possible?
Can Bianca stop her from posting hers? Copyright infringement maybe?
The way she’s escalating, I predict revenge porn soon.
Coming here to say that. That girl is not a toddler (although even when I had sm I would never even post pics of my toddlers without proper clothes on because we all know what the internet is like) and I would not be ok with my mother posting a pic like that of me at that age for the world to see.
My nine year old daughter has specifically told me she doesn’t want her picture posted on social media unless she says its ok. I never posted much anyway, a pic on her bday or Xmas, now I ask her if she’s OK with it. It may seem silly but I’m just respecting her wishes.
~ Agreed. In advocating for the rights and protection of the child, the picture should definitely not include her chest.
~ Also, I am 2 years into an exhausting divorce and from the moment he left, I referred to him as my “ex husband” even though technically we are still married…so I find it so odd that she still refers to him as her husband.
~ Lastly, what is a BLOGAN?
My 22 year old is quite clear where I can post his picture (Facebook and IG are fine, they’re private, Twitter is not) and has been this way for years, let’s just say he didn’t want his picture on MySpace (lol). She doesn’t seem to respect anyone or anyone’s boundaries. Like many have said, this is Betty Broderick part II and I hope she stops or is stopped before something awful happens.
Bogan is Australian/New Zealand slang for a crude/vulgar person. In the U.K., I think we’d use Chav. Basically, it’s another slam at Bianca.
I also noticed now that he’s wearing underwear, not a bathing suit. I know it’s the same nudity-wise, but I really feel she shouldn’t be sharing a photo of her ex in his underwear. It makes it nastier.
That’s an inappropriate picture to post online. Fine between family and friends, but not online.
Poor kids.
What a bad situation all around.
She has another picture on IG of Elsie in a t-shirt and panties. At first I thought it was a swim suit but she points out in the comments that Elsie wishes to apologize for her lack of pants … but it was panties or miss the bus. Why would you put your child in that situation? There are too many creeps on the internet. No.
She’s just exhausting. Even though Ioan cheated on her, I find myself having sympathy for him instead of her.
Who do we know he cheated on her ? Sound like she is making stories in her head.
Isn’t he still married to Alice? That’s cheating in my book.
@Amy Bee: Eh, if he started the relatioanship after telling her he’s out, and especially after filing, it’s fine in my book. Divorces can last years (this one is so messy it just actually might take that long). It’s cruel to expect people not to look for happiness only because some signatures are not in place yet.
He has separated and has been for over a year and is currently working on divorcing, which is a process that can take years even between consenting parties due to covid backlog. While technically married, he’s been out for a very long time. He’s not pretending to want to remain married, he’s not hiding his relationship: it’s not cheating.
So technically Brad and Angie can’t move on because their divorce isn’t final? It’s been 5 years in their case.
My guess is they’re legally separated which means he’s already filed a court-ordered agreement in which a married couple lives separate lives, usually by living apart. An actual divorce can take years. Furthermore, we have no proof that he cheated, this is all part of Alice’s fever dream.
We don’t even know if he truly did cheat on her either LOL She can’t even keep her story straight about it.
He didn’t – she keeps inadvertently revealing the truth. He apparently has wanted out for a while and told her he was leaving and she refused to acknowledge that until he started divorce proceedings which is when she started all this. The ‘affair’ stories only started when he went public with a new GF.
She CANNOT keep her story straight.
It started when she went after Ella Newton back in January via The Scum
I could be wrong but she allegedly cheated on him a number of times. Obviously, two wrongs don’t make a right but Ioan might be sitting on some explosive stuff.
Now that would be the ultimate revenge plot from him. I can believe this as she was engaged to another man when she started seeing Ioan. I think he is sitting on his own little gold mine of tea.
She cheated on Picasso’s grandson to be with Ioan. I’m sure he’s fine now, but she straight up admitted it in an interview (and she was engaged to the grandson too).
The Olivier Picasso story is great for showing who she really is.
She cheated on him.
She says it’s no biggie because they were just engaged, not married, there were no kids, and anyways it turned out later he’s gay anyway. That was literally her justification.
And then if anyone challenges her on Picasso, she says this shouldn’t be talked about because he’s not completely out of the closet yet. Eventhough she’s outing him while saying so.
Or at least she would be outing him if he didn’t have his partner mentioned in the big NY Times interview he did. He’s out allright.
My point is, she always twists stories as they best fit what she’s trying to say at a given moment, even if the stories don’t add up when compared. So it’s fair for her to use Olivier’s gayness as her shield publicly, but anyone asking about this is outing him.
Y’all don’t get me wrong. I’m not condemning Ioan for leaving Alice, in his position I’d do the same but they’re still married. It would seem that he started this new relationship before he left Alice.
As I said above, my guess is they’re legally separated. She’s going to make it exceedingly difficult to get divorced. She’ll be fighting tooth and nail over every last item in their household and access to the kids, so there’s really no point to not having another relationship if the whole stinking mess drags on for years. None of us knows if he started this new relationship prior to leaving Alice, but somehow I doubt it — he’s known that Alice is suffering from one or more psychological disorders for some time, and finally realized he had to get away from it. Cheating would not be the smart way to do it, it would only fan the flames. From what I’ve read on BPD/NPD/HPD, hormonal changes during and after menopause can exacerbate symptoms — it happened to Mr. Jaded’s ex-wife. She’d been having milder symptoms of BPD until she hit her late 40s/early 50s then all hell broke loose.
In california you file for separation before or at the same time you file for divorce. So he has been legally separated from her at least since he filed. Divorce can take years, even without children involved.
My sister who filed the same month Angelina did, FINIALLY got her papers saying its final. And he didn’t even get a lawyer to fight anything and signed away custody at her lawyers office.
They’ve been separated for two years and he filed for divorce a year ago. He announced his new relationship eight months after filing.
Really not cheating.
Once you file for separation in the eyes of the court it isn’t cheating in california.
My divorce took 3 years, i filed for separation the same time i filed.
My X in court accused me of cheating, the Judge literally told him that I was allowed to have a relationship and no it wasn’t cheating. We were legally separated. Not that it matters since Cali is a no fault state
That girlfriend, Bianca needs to file a restraining order against her. If I were I would even break up with the guy, no one should go through this for a man, especially when there is so much childless guys out there, this shouldn’t be her problem.
That’s what she wants – for her to leave him.
Maybe she should. Why should she stay is such a complicated relationship ? she is the one that is loosing. She doesn’t have to be involved in this, only Ioan has. He chose to have kids with her, that’s his responsibility not her.
Oh I would have walked away and filed a restraining order. Call me when you’re divorced and your ex-wife has calmed the eff down and maybe we can see where it goes.
She’s young, beautiful and unattached.
She’s having a breakdown like Britney and Diana did and we are gleefully tearing at the gossip carrion.
I don’t get the Diana or Britney comparison here, but I don’t think anyone is gleeful. I think people are deeply uncomfortable and would like to see her loved ones/lawyers intervene for her own good.
I don’t think this is a “breakdown”. The way she keeps changing her story, experimenting with which elements will elicit the most sympathy…her behavior seems very calculated to me. I wouldn’t doubt that she may have some sort of personality disorder, but this doesn’t seem like a “breakdown” in the sense of what Britney or Diana endured while under immense public scrutiny. Alice appears to be WANTING, desperately clawing for that sort of publicity.
Nope. Diana and Britney were living their lives, with the stories being written by the tabloid press. This is gossip columns repeating what Alice herself is publicly saying to the world.
Of course, there was no social media in the 90s. Who knows what Di or Britney would have been posting.
Not even remotely similar.
Britney and Diana were both victimized by the relentless paparazzi and media while trying to go about their lives. This woman is voluntarily putting everything out there.
Also, most of the comments I’ve seen are people saying she should stop and seek help, and listen to her lawyers, and concern for her children.
Diana and Britney weren’t using their children publicly as weapons. Alice’s behaviour is toxic, not a cry for help like Diana’s and Britney’s.
What is that picture supposed to imply?
This is getting so out of control. As for alcoholic accusations…I would have to guess she’s posting some of this stuff while under the influence (right?) so that’s not helping her case at all. I feel horrible for their children.
Who knows what is going on in her head, but I assume it’s supposed to imply the girlfriend is partying? Maybe? Which given that as far as I know she doesn’t have kids or any other family obligation she’s neglected is…totally fine and cool? Or maybe that’s just the picture she could find while cyber stalking.
I’m starting to wonder about the drinking possibility. Saying he told everyone and he lied (uhhh, I doubt anyone from that set is talking to you Alice and technically you just told everybody, so…?) is classic alcoholic projection games. Classic.
Her behaviour is escalating at an alarming rate, which makes me fear for their daughters and Bianca. She is def the type to turn up at Bianca’s home and cause a physical scene.
Alice is what happens to a narc who has NO other suppliers or support to fall back on – her own family want nothing to do with her and it seems she has NO friends. She WILL crash and burn, taking everyone else with her. She will stop at nothing until she has ruined them both and even then that won’t be enough.
+1
Agree 100%.
The kids are in major danger frankly, if this keeps going as it is.
Completely agree.
Well Bianca lives in Oz so not so easy to get to her with the lockdown
100%
She literally personifies Karen, was racist against MM and she also seems to be drunk tweeting a lot. Which is another reason to feel bad for their kids. Also she now claims he accused her of alcoholism and being a bad mother for the last years. Which makes sense based on her appearance and behaviour and also why he left her.
Of course nobody should berate him for not wanting to stay in marriage with someone like that. But my question now is more why isn’t he around more? He’s their parent too, their mother is clearly not well and possibly has substance abuse issues. I get that he’s possibly gonna fight for custody but leaving them alone in LA in that situation is also not good. They are so young its really damaging that the only parent that is with them on a day to day basis is so out of it.
We don’t know what’s happening behind the scenes in terms of custody. He’s neither done nor said anything about it, so to judge him on the matter is purely an act of imagination.
Not really. I am talking about the fact that she’s clearly the primary caretaker if he is working out of the country ( Australia) for the last few years and France lately. She’s a mess and this is a toxic situation for kids that could cause real damage.
If we really care about the kids well being and not just about berating her than I think it’s fair to question why he’s not physically present for them.
It’s his responsibility as well to support and care for them since he chose to have kids with her. It also seems like she’s always been somewhat like this based on the stuff that is resurfacing lately.
Her erratic behavior has escalated over time, so no, not “always been like this.” He’s not physically present because he’s working. Again, just because he’s not posting about it on social media doesn’t mean he’s not working to gain custody.
@Pilar – The last thing you want to do with someone suffering from NPD/BPD is engage with them in any way post breakup. Going no contact or minimal contact is the only way to disengage from their madness, so what Ioan is doing is right. As @Merricat commented, Alice’s behaviour is typical for those suffering from personality disorders — they can be mildly symptomatic for long periods of time, but will snap into toxic behaviour in an instant. It’s called “splitting” in BPD vernacular. My guess is she swung badly into more toxic behaviour going through menopause and Ioan simply couldn’t take it anymore, it’s exhausting dealing with it, like walking on eggshells. As far as his work is concerned, he no doubt had air-tight contracts preventing him from pulling the plug because his marriage was in melt-down. She doesn’t seem to have much of an income so he is the sole supporter of his family, he HAS to work.
Jaded, quite true. Keeping quiet and low key is his best option. He’s getting good advice and he’s following it.
No “good mother” tells her young daughters that their father is divorcing them. He is divorcing her, not the children, and to tell them otherwise is cruel and damaging.
Yes I found that distressing too…”He is leaving US”. Uh no b*tch, he’s leaving you.
On the flipside, where the hell is Ioan if she is this raging alcoholic? Why would he leave his daughters with an incapable mother? Side eye for sure.
They have a nanny. He’s not a hugely popular actor so he has to take what he can get. Someone needs to support the kids.
He’s a leading actor in the UK he’s not gonna have any trouble finding work here. He’s also a millionaire so I don’t think he’s gonna go bankrupt if he says no to a project.
He’s been back in America since August 2020. He’s been here until he left for the series , or mini series, he’s shooting in France. I believe he left around the end of August of this year. He’s due back home this weekend as the series is finishing up filming this week. It’s only six episodes, so it’s not a long series. So he has been around, except for the past three months. She likes to pretend he hasn’t been around for a year. His TV show in Australia is finished, no more seasons.
She has turned the older daughter against him. She started refusing to go to his apartment and would only see him if he came to the family home. Since Ioan has no contact with Alice because of her behavior, and does his communication through wizard with her, that smacks of Alice using her daughter to try to get Ioan to come to the family home so she can see him.
He has to pay the bills. So he does have to go and work where the offers are.
@Pilar – as per Alice, they had 300.000 dollars of savings that are now being used by Ioan for legal fees. The house is under mortgage (that ‘s why they’ll have to sell it, he can’t afford to keep it for Alice and the girls plus buy/rent his own place).
So while they’re better off than us mortals, he’s likely not a millionare who can afford 2 houses/appartments plus child support and alimony and take a few years off work. And Alice is ruining his professional reputation too, so things might get even worse.
@Tisme: She hasn’t always been a raging alcoholic, this drinking problem has happened because she couldn’t deal with the break-up. Believe me, living with someone with NPD or BPD is like picking your way through a field of landmines. I grew up with an NPD sister and a BPD mother and it was horrible. Mr. Jaded’s ex-wife is BPD and 7 years after SHE left HIM, she’s still harassing us.
@Pilar: As far as his work is concerned, actors sign contracts that are pretty much airtight so breaking it would create a huge legal problem for him with the production company likely suing him for a lot of money. He has to work. Period.
Pilar I don’t know where you get your ideas as I’ve been living in UK for 2 decades and never heard his name or saw him in any movie filmed in UK. I only saw him in 2 movies, the fantastic 4 and San Andreas.
Tom Hiddleston, Benedict Cumberbatch, Martin Freeman, Idris Elba and many others are famous actors in UK.
Gruffudd is a nobody and always has been in UK. Majority of his work has been in the USA and I’d bet he owns no property here.
If he wasn’t for his deranged ex wife he wouldn’t be in the news at present.
-Especially waking the youngest in the middle of the night to tell her that IG was leaving ‘them’. A good mother? I think not.
Ioan is playing the long game IMO. Any divorced mom (myself included) would do anything for what she has: remaining in the marital home, primary physical custody, and she’s obviously receiving “adequate” spousal/child support or we would have heard about it. I doubt she’s in danger of having to actually *gasp* get a job to keep food on the table.
He is keeping quiet and letting her do the dirty work – which she may have just figured out (too late). Watch this space, he will go for some type of custody. Judges do take the parties’ ability to co-parent effectively into consideration, and her public meltdowns are destroying her case.
And yes, also worried about the effect on the children. I can’t count the number of times I bit my tongue in front of the kids and kept my thoughts on my ex to myself. So disturbing.
She is this morning on twitter claiming that both kids dont want to talk to him anymore and that it is totally not her fault (sure)
https://twitter.com/AliceEvansGruff/status/1461340111837138947
That there is the moment she lost custody. Judges in California do not play when it comes to parental alienation. And she is far far over that line by her own words
Apt twitter response:
This is called parental alienation, and it’s how Ioan is going to get full custody.
I hate that so many commenters speak of Ioan and this woman as if they are well paid Hollywood actors who can call the shots.
There isn’t a whole lot of difference between these people and a contract worker with a stay at home wife. And it’s really not easy to navigate a divorce, your children’s well being, your legal wife’s increasingly problematic behavior and still get and keep enough work to pay all the bills.
It’s also not easy or wise to take children who are already being alienated from their primary caregiver. You’ve got to be careful how it’s done both legally and emotionally. People really seem to think he can/should quit his job and give her more opportunities to lash out at him or swoop him and take his children from their normal and then everything will be better.
It’s not that easy.
He’s a millionaire he could easily stop working to support his kids in a time of crisis.He doesn’t need to take the kids away but being present in their daily life is different from being present on FaceTime.
Why do you think he’s a millionaire?
And if he is, how many millions do you think and how much do you think he has to spend to maintain his households and now lawyers?
How do you know him trying to get physical custody before it’s been legally established is not going to get her to become violent? How do you know that his presence won’t trigger her to be even more abusive?
I’m technically a millionaire and my husband still has to work because that money has to last us for the rest of our lives.
How do you know? Have you seen his bank accounts? He can’t “easily stop working”, he’s under contract. If he breaks said contract he will be sued and his reputation will suffer. He’s going to have to pay Alice a LOT of money in alimony and support for his kids who now apparently hate him. She is destroying his life and his relationship with his children, and doesn’t seem to realize that if the work disappears, she’s not going to get as much money as she thinks she deserves.
It still leaves the kids in a possibly dangerous situation. I sincerely hope those children have a perceptive nanny.
Are you really gonna be bending over backwards to portray him as some poor working actor? 🙄 He’s been the leading actor in franchises when he was younger and here in the UK for years and years. He can definitely afford to take some time out even if he isn’t the biggest movie star on the planet. Also he was staying at the cap Eden roc hotel wether that was payed for by the film he’s working on or by himself not exactly the look of a poor working
The guy is a working actor. Judy Greer, a consistently working actress, wrote in her book that she lives a comfortable lifestyle but can’t afford to say no.
How do you know he’s a millionaire and can easily stop working? Even if you get paid one million dollars 30-40% of that is going to taxes and agents etc. Then bills, he might even be paying UK and US taxes and UK taxes are A LOT.
What are you talking about? He was Mr. Fantastic in Fantastic Four but it’s not like that franchise made any of its stars hugely rich and famous (if they were it wasn’t from that). No other leads in any other franchises, and it looks like he’s in more demand as a television actor. And frankly, because she isn’t working, that may be why he stuck to television as a more consistent stream of income.
Him staying at a hotel that might have been paid for by the production doesn’t make any difference. How do we even know he hasn’t taken time out to see them or take care of them? She paints it that he’s abandoned all of them but him leaving her has nothing to do with that concept.
I live in UK and nobody around would know who IG is. Millionaire of my boots…
Pilar, I seriously doubt he’s a millionaire. But even assuming he was, that money won’t last long given he has to maintain 2 households (LA is not cheap), a nanny, private schools, and all the lawyers fees.
He is B- or C-list celebrity who was maybe popular 2 decades ago. I really doubt he makes that much. He can be replaced by hundreds of other middle-aged actors.
“Even if the Bogan took her fun away”.
She needs to stop.
FYI: if you don’t know, Bogan means “an uncultured and unsophisticated person; a boorish and uncouth person”, essentially it’s Australian trailer trash.
Thank you for the BOGAN clarification!
She also captioned the photo of Bianca she posted ‘this is my husband’s new bogan’.
She’s going to go after her BIG TIME.
She’s mentioned in a post that she did a couple of days that she has no intention of stopping any of the tweets. The lawyers are going to destroy her.
Exactly. She needs to stop talking, but she won’t. If anything it’s worse cause now she’s using photos of her kids to emotionally manipulate her ex, and bully his new girlfriend.
If she cared at all about her children she wouldn’t have done that at all.
Also: there are a lot of perverts on the internet so not sure why she didn’t photoshop her child’s tank top so her chest wasn’t showing. Like not a good move.
According to Twitter, Ioan and Bianca are trying to prove “parental alienation,” ie that Alice is actively turning the girls against their father. Not surprised at the new tune she’s taken with this in mind. It does look like Ioan is trying to do what’s best for his girls but he’s taking a quiet, strategic approach.
Wow the comments. The way you all fawn over other women who’s intentions have been shady (and with evidence to that) and the way you are talking about this women losing custody is hilarious and not on brand for the usual comments. She’s not going to lose custody bc she is having major difficulties processing her divorce. I find it gross how everyone is expecting that to happen along with a psych evaluation. Yuck.
Clearly this kind of behaviour is super-normal in your world. It isn’t in ours.
I think you’re not familiar with this case. She is stalking and harassing him and Bianca, exposing her children to social media, interfering with their conversations with him, encouraging her supporters to stalk and threaten him.
My divorce was a non-celebrity, midwestern SAHM wife and an unfaithful, emotionally and financially abusive husband. One of the first things put into place was a directive to keep off of social media-not that I would ever go there. I love my son so much more that that. Protecting him> my feelings.
Interfering with a parent during divorce is not looked upon favorably in family court at all. I think those kids need a GAL to represent their interests during all of this. I really hope that Alice can get some meaningful help.
We are not fawning, Alice is being abusive to her kids. Many of the commenters here have been through similar situations and for you to trivialize our concerns over what she’s doing to her kids is unacceptable. She’s weaponized them and turned them against their father, who is the bread-winner in the family so she’s basically shooting herself in the foot. She is a very sick woman and clearly drinking and self-medicating herself into a state of madness. She could very well lose custody if this threatening and harassing behaviour keeps up. Those poor kids are going to need years of therapy after this is done and dusted.
@Jaded thank you for this comment. I went through a lot of trauma as a kid. When my Dad left my Mom and she went scorched earth on us. She mentally abused us as a tactic to make him come back home. She used emotional blackmail since there was no way in hell she was ever going to be a divorced woman. It worked and he was dragged back home. And they spent the next 30 years miserable together and until he died of cancer. He literally had to die to get away from her. And now she is happy and content to say she is widow but never a divorcee. Alice triggers me hard. I feel for what the kids are going through now so publicly.
If I personally know of two women, in MY orbit who have lost custody of their children because they went bat shit crazy during and after divorce, then yes lol, women can crazy their way into significant losses. That’s just duh.
And BTW Kaiser, IMO, you never have to preface a story with reasons or tiptoe through a byline because of controversies, backlash, whatever. I live and work online and am on an embarrassingly number of hours. If I could figure out how to do more in my sleep, I could say 24/7 lol. There’s so much nasty online. So so much. Everywhere and about everything. Comments can be shocking. But on this site, pretty much everyone stays within a certain range of maturity and tact. And that range is situated along the nicer portion of the linear depiction of cyber conduct. I’m just saying you’re steering a worthy ship in a sea of tumultuous muck, and the passengers rarely get wet.
truth!
Yeah, I’m not going to cape for DISTURBED,harmful ,stalker behavior because the person doing it is a woman . I’m not also going to justify getting divorced as a reason to become unhinged ,alienating the children from the other parent and INDULGING i selfish, bad behavior.
Bianca , you in danger girl! Wow, this woman is not ok. Also just took a look at her instagram and holy cow! She is not well.
On the one hand, I feel bad for her–I’ve been with my husband for 20 years, married for almost a decade, and I know I’d fall apart (for at least a little while) if he dumped me. I also think the idea of “keeping a dignified silence” is kind of bullshit. It was her marriage, too–she has every right to talk about it if she wants.
On the other hand?? This woman seems volatile and paranoid. This divorce has clearly triggered a mental health crisis in her. She is spiraling, and she needs to get the hell off social media and get professional help.
I’m honestly curious- how is keeping a dignified silence bullshit? Do you mean that the expectation for people me do so is bullshit or that it’s a bullshit approach? That’s how my mom handled my parents’ divorce – she was calm, measured, and not petty at all, which is what my sisters and I needed.
I mean the expectation, not the approach itself.
Telling your side of the story and what she is doing are two totally different things.
I agree!
Keeping a dignified silence means having a better chance of custody. What she’s exposing her two kids to is criminal and will likely f*ck them up for a very long time.
So being an unhinged nutbag is how people should handle things? Dignified silence to the public, ESPECIALLY when you have minor children is the way to go. Cuss them out and trash them to your friends but why would you want to act a fool in public? It’s not cute and you do NOT look rational. Frankly if you go all Betty Broderick because your spouse left you, I see you as more of a problem in the marriage than you’re willing to acknowledge. This kind of behavior is why some people will ALWAYS say that women can’t handle pressure and it’s NOT true.
No, being an “unhinged nutbag” is not at all the way to handle things. I never said that or implied such a thing in my comment.
My husband suddenly asked for a divorce out of the blue last year (we’ve since reconciled, we’ve been married for longer than a decade) and I didn’t go full paranoid and abusive stalker on social media or even privately on WhatsApp.
Please stop giving married women a bad reputation. AE is a deranged woman using her kids as pawns.
And according to even her he didn’t ask for a divorce out of the blue. The writing was very clearly on the wall for her.
So what I actually said was that I think the idea of having to maintain a “dignified silence” is BS. I think it’s OK to say out loud, on social media “my husband dumped me. I am heartbroken. I am not Ok.” I think it’s OK to be vocal about heartbreak and/or emotional trauma.
No, this does not mean that I think it’s OK for Alice Evans to share her paranoid delusions on Twitter or weaponize her kids against their dad or stalk anyone. Please note that I made it clear that she’s unwell and needs professional help. It’s really odd that you think my viewpoint on this compromises your rep as “married woman” in anyway—it really doesn’t.
****SHE REMINDS ME EXACTLY OF MY MOTHER*** shudder
AE is being self destructive and torturing herself and IG/BW , her 2 daughters, their families, friends and colleagues by lashing out online in such a vicious way. She is spiralling down every day and most of us are concerned about the vulnerable children being exposed to this unfiltered rage and bitterness.
IG returns from filming next week and hopefully that will help but how will AE react ? Surely AE has RL friends and a therapist to get her into rehab for the drinking?
She’s apparently estranged from her family and his family and has no friends after being in LA for 2 decades. She has no one to stop her or make her see reason. Hopefully when he gets home the court can do something about the issues but with him being out of the country there wasn’t anything he could do.
So, she’s the drama?
Her word choice this whole time has been SO manipulative and damaging to her daughters. This whole time she has repeatedly said; “He left US.” Not he left ME, but US. As in her and her daughters. And I have no doubt she has been telling her young daughters; “Daddy left us.” No you stupid, selfish b$tch, he left YOU. And ONLY you.
I wonder if she is suffering from severe mental health crisis? Sometimes people can’t control themselves when they are in the middle of an episode. Can she be committed against her will until she is stable enough to care for herself and their children? I’m really concerned for the safety of her ex, his girlfriend, the children and even herself.
Can anybody explain how her social media accounts haven’t been shut down for harassment and bullying on a mass scale? That’s supposedly against user guidelines.
She has no connection with reality now. She even had a tweet where she claimed that Ioan wanted her back and Bianca wouldn’t let him leave.
This woman is truly deranged and her sadistic narcissism that she expresses in emotional cruelty to her children in an attempt to hurt Ioan/get his attention, makes her very dangerous to those kids.
She is a terrible mother. She emotionally abuses them, delights in their distress and posts about it to show her ex “look what you’ve done”.
heh she wants 80/20 custody and if she doesn’t get it she will drag it so long until the eldest is old enough to decide herself
https://twitter.com/AliceEvansGruff/status/1461338129126756355?t=-Orp7q9AGh-f0r7eJv5LmQ&s=19
great parent right here 👏
She’s deleted that. Not the first tweet linked to in these comments that has been deleted… Wonder if she’s purging those custody comments?
Am I the only one that thinks he went insta official with his girlfriend to get the wife to move on the divorce? She doesn’t want this split and had said at one point that she was “fighting it.” I think he filed for divorce and she probably refused to respond—I’m sure she would sit on divorce papers forever if she could.
She said she was going to fight it until the kids are old enough to decide if they want to see him for themselves. Maybe he did go official to force her to make a move. He has the right to move on. And she doesn’t have the right to alienate the children from him. This isn’t a Brad Pitt scenario where he is unsafe for the kids to be around.
So wait for the ‘he abused the kids ‘ thing to come back up as she was a saying in March
I’m noticing that the links to her Twitter that people have been posting show up as not being there anymore. Does she tweet crazy stuff and then delete it an hour later? I’m just trying to get a clearer picture here because from what I see on her social media, yes it’s obvious that she is going through some hellish shit and not handling it in what people consider a ‘dignified’ way but I don’t see anything that’s to the point where I would consider her dangerous or insane. She seems like a person who just had their entire world invalidated and could very much benefit from a professional to talk to. But maybe I’m missing something.
I did watch the interview on Lorraine and, having no prior knowledge of who these people even are, I couldn’t help but feel compassion for her. She is wrecked. I would be, too. I hope she has good friends and a good therapist.
She drunk/rage tweets at night and deletes them when she wakes up. There are online forums with screenshots of all her tweets.
If you look up the definition of hot mess in the dictionary it’s a pic of Alice.
Once again, I’m going to just chime into say that it’s unbelievable to me how quickly and easily people have bought her line that Ioan Gruffudd cheated on her, with absolutely no proof whatsoever. Anyone’s who’s been following this story from the start would know that, and there are plenty of people who are completely new here, but seem to have a lot of opinions on a lot of things with very little information to back that stuff up.
There’s a difference between being a “difficult woman” and being an abusive person. There’s a difference between faltering against the expectations levied against women to be dignified and mature which only serve to deny them their vulnerability and humanity, and weaponizing your anger and pain to hurt other people. As far as Alice Evans is concerned, there are no redeeming qualities here. The moment she decided to openly and publicly harass a private individual on social media, she lost any right to any type of moral high ground or empathy she could have occupied. Yes, it’s awful and tragic that her husband has left her and asked for a divorce. Yes, it’s terrible the things that slightly scruffy looking middle-aged men do to women and wound up getting forgiven for. Yes, women deserve the right to be emotionally vulnerable, publicly, without that vulnerability being used to discredit them.
But this is not the person you need to take up for if those are the stances you’re choosing to defend. Being emotionally vulnerable does not mean you screenshot and repost pictures of your ex’s new girlfriend, presumably with the intention of setting your equally deranged followers on her. Harassment is not excusable because you got cheated on and are going through a lot of pain in your personal life. The buck stops when your actions start freaking hurting other people, and in this case, Alice Evans is most definitely hurting the people around her, in particular her children. This isn’t rocket science.
Narcissists and abusers are experts at weaponizing the zeitgeist to frame their victims as the abuser and the narcissist. The fact that Alice Evans is portraying herself as the wronged wife who was cheated on by her husband, the fact that she’s repeated some version of this lie enough times to the point that PEOPLE ACTUALLY BELIEVE HER, is an alarming example of that exact thing in action. People are getting f-cking duped to be sympathetic towards her. I’m seeing more and more comments that just take it for granted that Ioan Gruffudds cheated, because?? He left his middle aged wife? Because Alice Evans said so? Because his latest girlfriend is younger than him? Because he posted a picture of the two of them on social media??? Again, people are getting played here, and no one seems to be questioning it.
Also, the comparisons to Betty Broderick are getting tired. Betty Broderick was being harassed and baited by her ex-husband and his mistress. Her ex-husband weaponized the legal system against her in a truly abysmal and corrupt way. His mistress was sending her hate mail that made fun of her for being fat. That doesn’t justify the fact that she murdered them, obviously. But people, yet again, are making comments without knowing the full story.
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This all very yikes!
A lot of people are calling her “deranged”– I will be one to say its not an appropriate term.
I would interpret this behavior as her being very hurt, and (seriously, obviously) not knowing how to deal with it- with ANY of it. She likely has some depression from before, and high anxiety, and this trauma/stress is just on constant loop in her head— hence shes not moving forward.
I say this because I recognize some of myself in this, from 12 years ago, and I really was not a monster then, I was just damaged and I had zero skills for understanding any of what had happened, or processing it- and I had no help.
I assume, this could be her situation. So I feel its harsh to say deranged. Just- unsupported and unskilled, and even psychologically/emotionally ‘abandoned’ (she repeats this aspect a lot).
It’s probably the first time something like this happened to her, and yes, it makes zero sense. There is no making sense of it, you just have to let it go.
I looked at her early Instagram posts (not to troll, but just to gauge her general psychosis).
There is A LOT of underlying tension in her posts — especially the ones that feature both of them. There is the constant comparison of their looks (she constantly fawns over him/ maintains that he’s better-looking), acknowledgment that she’s embarrassing him or that she’s been directed to delete stuff, a recording of his snoring (to which she prefaces with “he’s probably going to divorce me over this”), and strangest of all, she posted their IMDb pages, and of course, she ranked HIGHER (that was probably the first time that had ever happened, hence the strange post, out of the blue).
She is so possessive and competitive and passive-aggressive with him that her current behavior makes sense: how dare “horse-teethed” Bianca take away her most prized possession! And WHY would anyone ever leave her — she’s the one who leaves people (Picasso’s grandson, mind you)!
What a monster.
Other than all that, she seems pretty chill.
To be fair, although she does seem unhinged, she is not lying about the time line with his new girlfriend. Ioan claims they met at the end of Season 3 (2020) while Bianca had been liking family pictures of theirs on Instagram. That’s shady. I’d be paranoid too that he was trying to ruin me.
This is a train wreck that I cannot look away from, it’s the wrong type of attention.
I’m not surprised that she has no friends or family that want to put up w/her antics.