Last week, the Princess of Wales joined her husband for their first joint trip to Cornwall since becoming the Duke and Duchess of Cornwall. While they were there, Kate unexpectedly (?) ran into one of her old teachers, and she chatted with the older gentleman briefly and then she gave him a hug and continued on with the event. The hug got a lot of play in the British media, almost as if it was set-up and Kate knew ahead of time that she was supposed to hug the man and give the photographers a good angle. I have no idea if it was prearranged or not – Kate’s a terrible actress and she has no pokerface, so I kind of believe that she was genuinely surprised to see her former teacher there and her enthusiasm was genuine.
Now, all that being said, it was the second time that week in which Kate hugged someone on camera. The other time was when she saw Captain Prett Chandi – the two women greeted each other with a particularly warm embrace. Orders have been given and a plan has been put into action: Operation Hugs and Buttons. Even People Magazine openly suggested that this is a change in Kate’s personal branding from icy bitch to affectionate hugger, and it’s all to do with Meghan:
Kate Middleton is on a hugging spree. The Princess of Wales, 41, was quick to embrace some familiar faces during royal engagements this week. While congratulating Captain Preet Chandi on her record-breaking expedition in Antarctica during a school visit on Wednesday, Kate greeted the explorer with a big hug. Another sweet moment came on Thursday during Princess Kate and Prince William’s visit to Cornwall, when she reunited with one of her former teachers.
Although Meghan Markle said in the Netflix show Harry & Meghan, which premiered in December, that she was surprised by Kate and Prince William’s formality behind closed doors, a friend of the Princess of Wales recently told PEOPLE that the royal is quite affectionate.
“Kate’s a big hugger,” the friend said. “She is warm and friendly and greets everyone with a big hug and kiss. It comes naturally to her to be like that.”
Recalling the first time that Meghan met Kate, the Duchess of Sussex said on Netflix show that she was “in ripped jeans and barefoot” when Prince William and Kate came over for dinner.
“Like I was a hugger, always been a hugger,” Meghan, 41, said. “I didn’t realize that that is really jarring for a lot of Brits.”
“I guess I’d start to understand very quickly that the formality on the outside, carried through on the inside,” she added. “There is a forward-facing way of being and then you close the door and you relax now. But that formality carries over on both sides. And that was surprising to me.”
As I said previously, the “Kate is a hugger, we promise” thing is not the way to play this. Kate is a reserved, self-contained, unaffectionate person – that’s not a crime, and she should have owned that and acted like Meghan was wrong to go around hugging people constantly. That would have been the smart way to handle it. But no, we’re getting performative hugs from the Princess of Copykeening. It’s not enough that Kate copies Meghan’s clothes, jewelry, shoes, typeface, color schemes, billboards and charitable branding, Kate also has to copy Meghan’s affectionate, demonstrative nature. Pretty soon Kate is going to go around barefoot, claiming to be a California girl. It’s giving CREEPY.
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- The Princess of Wales visited Landau Forte College Derby on Wednesday 8th February with Captain Preet Chandi MBE to celebrate her return from her solo expedition across Antarctica. The Princess of Wales was Patron of Preet’s expedition, where Captain Chandi broke the world record for the furthest unsupported solo Polar expedition in history. Pushing the boundaries of human endeavor, Preet covered 922 miles in 70 days and 16 hours, skiing for 13-15 hours a day with as little as five hours sleep at times. Preet pulled all her kit and supplies on a sledge weighing around 120kg while battling temperatures of -30c and wind speeds of up to 60mph . Picture Arthur Edwards The Sun The Princess tries resistance training that Preet did to get fit for her trip,Image: 754844556, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: The Princess of Wales visits Landau Forte College Derby. The Princess of Wales joins world recording breaking Captain Preet Chandi on school visit to celebrate her expedition across Antarctica.The Princess of Wales was Patron of Preet’s expedition, where Captain Chandi broke the world record for the furthest unsupported solo Polar expedition in history. Pushing the boundaries of human endeavour, Preet covered 922 miles in 70 days and 16 hours, skiing for 13-15 hours a day with as little as five hours sleep at times. Preet pulled all her kit and supplies on a sledge weighing around 120kg while battling temperatures of -30c and wind speeds of up to 60mph ., Model Release: no, Credit line: Arthur Edwards / Avalon
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- The Princess of Wales visited Landau Forte College Derby on Wednesday 8th February with Captain Preet Chandi MBE to celebrate her return from her solo expedition across Antarctica. The Princess of Wales was Patron of Preet’s expedition, where Captain Chandi broke the world record for the furthest unsupported solo Polar expedition in history. Pushing the boundaries of human endeavor, Preet covered 922 miles in 70 days and 16 hours, skiing for 13-15 hours a day with as little as five hours sleep at times. Preet pulled all her kit and supplies on a sledge weighing around 120kg while battling temperatures of -30c and wind speeds of up to 60mph . Picture Arthur Edwards The Sun The Princess tries resistance training that Preet did to get fit for her trip,Image: 754844565, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: The Princess of Wales visits Landau Forte College Derby. The Princess of Wales joins world recording breaking Captain Preet Chandi on school visit to celebrate her expedition across Antarctica.The Princess of Wales was Patron of Preet’s expedition, where Captain Chandi broke the world record for the furthest unsupported solo Polar expedition in history. Pushing the boundaries of human endeavour, Preet covered 922 miles in 70 days and 16 hours, skiing for 13-15 hours a day with as little as five hours sleep at times. Preet pulled all her kit and supplies on a sledge weighing around 120kg while battling temperatures of -30c and wind speeds of up to 60mph ., Model Release: no, Credit line: Arthur Edwards / Avalon
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- The Princess of Wales visited Landau Forte College Derby on Wednesday 8th February with Captain Preet Chandi MBE to celebrate her return from her solo expedition across Antarctica. The Princess of Wales was Patron of Preet’s expedition, where Captain Chandi broke the world record for the furthest unsupported solo Polar expedition in history. Pushing the boundaries of human endeavor, Preet covered 922 miles in 70 days and 16 hours, skiing for 13-15 hours a day with as little as five hours sleep at times. Preet pulled all her kit and supplies on a sledge weighing around 120kg while battling temperatures of -30c and wind speeds of up to 60mph . Picture Arthur Edwards The Sun The Princess tries resistance training that Preet did to get fit for her trip,Image: 754844568, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: The Princess of Wales visits Landau Forte College Derby. The Princess of Wales joins world recording breaking Captain Preet Chandi on school visit to celebrate her expedition across Antarctica.The Princess of Wales was Patron of Preet’s expedition, where Captain Chandi broke the world record for the furthest unsupported solo Polar expedition in history. Pushing the boundaries of human endeavour, Preet covered 922 miles in 70 days and 16 hours, skiing for 13-15 hours a day with as little as five hours sleep at times. Preet pulled all her kit and supplies on a sledge weighing around 120kg while battling temperatures of -30c and wind speeds of up to 60mph ., Model Release: no, Credit line: Arthur Edwards / Avalon
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- The Prince and Princess of Wales, known as the Duke and Duchess of Cornwall while in Cornwall, during a visit to the Dracaena Centre in Cornwall, to learn about the wide variety of support and services that the organisation provides to local people, with a mission of building a healthy, happy and mutually supportive society. Picture date: Thursday February 9, 2023. Located between Falmouth and Penryn, the centre serves both towns and the surrounding rural area. It has been in operation since 2008 and supports around 10,000 people a year.,Image: 755039730, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: NO UK USE FOR 48 HOURS- Fee Payable Upon reproduction – For queries contact Avalon sales@Avalon.red London +44 20 7421 6000 Los Angeles +1 310 822 0419 Berlin +49 30 76 212 251 Madrid +34 91 533 42 89, Model Release: no, Credit line: Avalon.red / Avalon
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The Kitty can hug all she wants but it is forever emblazoned in our minds the mean behavior she displayed to her biracial sister in law. We are not fooled for one second.
This teacher’s hug was such a set-up. I’ve seen videos, you can really see how bad she’s acting! Cringe worthy.. Also, what a coincidence: everyone is behind the fence but the teacher just happens to be in front of it so she can hug him… Pathetic
One of the RRs said that the teacher was allowed in front of the fence to say hi to Kate, so security at least definitely knew he was there and who he was. The idea that it was a surprise is just ludicrous.
But how did the teacher even know Kate was going to be there unless he was contacted? She and Burger King have been traveling by stealth since Spare came out to avoid egg tossers. And she’s been a royal for years now so why did the teacher just suddenly decide to show up and push to the center now? This was fake, fake, fake and a pathetic attempt to counteract Harry’s portrayal of who she really is. The best thing is that unless you are a royal watcher and keep up with Kate”s shenanigans, you won’t see her trying to repair her image. Harry’s description of a cold fish will be what sticks in everyone’s mind.
The trip was embargoed, so if he had shown up spontaneously it’s unlikely that security would have been able (or willing) to verify his identity. At the same outing a man got moved on by the police for holding a blank piece of paper, they would not take the risk of putting someone unknown who hadn’t been invited in advance in front of the fence.
This was 100% a setup. I think it was @Jais in a post last week who pointed out that this “random” run-in with the teacher occurred only after Harry and Meghan’s docuseries, in which Meghan and Doria visited her elementary school and met (and hugged) her teacher/principal. That was 100% the reason for this “heartwarming” reunion – Kate has been in the public sphere for literal decades, and yet this only happens after Meghan is shown doing it first? Yea right. Kate is absolutely diabolical. Everything she does is calculated.
Both the look at me hugging people and the look at us all dressed in maroon is supposed to be a message to the Sussex family
What a classless bunch the BRF are
Thank you @Sunday. It was in the docuseries. Not only that, Meghan has discussed the importance of people to her from the Schoolhouse for many years. Miss Debbie’s name has come up before. Don’t recall Kate mentioning prep school teacher Jim any time before. He must be the one willing to show up when contacted. Yep, “random” run-in. ‘Ol Jim just “happened” to be in Cornwall that day.lol
@INDIA
Amen
She does not hug women (or children) of color
Actually, I’m pretty sure she does now for photos. To counteract her racist image. Unfortunately for her, the uncomfortable Lebron pic still exists. Imagine meeting Lebron James! and that’s the awkward smile you make.
Firstly, Her Royal Keen-ship doesn’t allow shouting in the house and now she revels in hugging peasants. Foshizzle.
The funny thing is that I think she become warmer when she finally got the ring. I remember the girlfriend years, I always used to think she seems very cold and unapproachable. Maybe she was insecure about the toffs and not locking it down yet.
She’ll copy everything except Meghan’s work ethic, ingenuity and intelligence.
Will have to take People’s word re: Kitty-Katty hugs. Tried getting interested in her after Meghan joined BRFCo, but decided she was uninteresting. Whenever I google Harry Meghan, I always -Kate.
Hah I was literally thinking this. If she’s going to SWF Meghan, I’d want my taxes to at least go towards her starting to become competent at her job. Anything but that! Too much for her lol
Right on @snuffles
So superficial, they can’t even pinpoint the best of Meg and actually take that and do better. They choose pantsuit, copy paste outfits, Archetypes’ font for the ridiculous ShapeUs campaign, and hugs.
The things they could do if they were actually committed to anything other than proving others wrong about them. They expend so much energy copying, raging, and plotting incompetent moves that could otherwise be channeled into positive, productive achievements. But, no. That’s what happens when you’re fueled by hate.
They don’t actually care for the job. They just have to give perception that they care. Her husband was born into a role he didnt choose and she ran after him because she was a social climber, it’s not like they wanted to do this. This all is confirmed when I see them going empty handed to food banks and refugee camps.
Maybe I’m cynical but I bet the former teacher was contacted to be there for that heartwarming moment. Wasn’t there something similar that happened with Meghan running across someone she knew in a crowd? I wouldn’t count embracing a male anyway. She doesn’t seem to mind touching men.
Meghan was in the carriage when she saw her former teacher in the crowd.
Sorry, it was in New Zealand, a follower of the tig, that Meghan use to write emails to. Jacinda Ardern was in the background with the biggest smile on her face.
@Jan: You were correct about the carriage story. But she did meet a fan in New Zealand as well. I’m sure Meghan meeting fans from her Tig and Suits days upset the other royals.
@Jan is correct. It happened at the end of the walkabout at the Viaduct. Meghan and Harry were being hustled into their car as they had an evening function to get to up at the Museum when Meghan recognised a girl in the crowd. Meghan dodged round a security guard so she could get to the girl, say hello and give her a hug. I saw it. I was there. Meghan only noticed the girl because she was standing very close to where the car had stopped, it was just by chance.
@equality: Meghan didn’t set up that encounter with her old acting coach that was one of the British TV channels who brought the lady over to the UK. My guess is they wanted to see if Meghan would see her and recognise her. Let’s remember that according to the press, Meghan was a social climber and schemer who left people by the wayside when she got ahead. Meghan was genuinely surprised to see her in the crowd. It’s a pity the TV channel didn’t make any attempt to get them to met after the wedding.
Wasn’t saying Meghan set it up but I bet that inspired KP to set up something for Kate.
@equality: I mean it’s possible but I suspect KP was setting up scenarios long before Meghan came on the scene.
Yep, one of khates minions watched the Adelle concert and thought “let’s get that on board the media blitz” to try and paint a false picture of Khate being warm is beyond ridiculous, christ if she Hugged the devil, hell WOULD freeze over. The gaslighting continues people
I could have sworn when Hug gate started “sources” claimed that Kate just wasn’t a hugger and that she’s just not a tactile person like that and then there were all of these think pieces dissecting the differences between British and American social norms and etiquette. Am I hallucinating that?
100% correct about how they should have played this. They should have pointed out that this was her first meeting with Meghan and it is not in her nature to be overly affectionate and that there was nothing wrong with that as there are many people who could understand that. However, they have the worst people working for them so they have gone for the Meghan was awful and Kate just sensed something was off about her which makes people question what that was other than Meghan’s skin color, or job, or where she is from, so we have racism, classism, or xenophobia. They’re so stupid.
Right, I’m not a hugger, not because I’m cold but I have a big personal space bubble for people I’m not related to. I also don’t think how dare they? When someone hugs me, I think, they don’t know me yet. So all they had to do was say something like that, but they went for HOW DARE SHE HUG KATE.
“As I said previously, the “Kate is a hugger, we promise” thing is not the way to play this. Kate is a reserved, self-contained, unaffectionate person – that’s not a crime, and she should have owned that and acted like Meghan was wrong to go around hugging people constantly. That would have been the smart way to handle it.”
Kate couldn’t handle it that way because deep down she knows that Meghan is right. She knows she was a b-tch to Meghan and is trying to convince herself she’s not a horrible person by overcompensating.
Also, you can be uncomfortable hugging when first meeting someone but still develop a warm and caring relationship. It’s not that big of a deal if it’s followed up by friendliness or openness. But the lack of a hug was followed up by coldness and keeping Meghan at arms length. It’s the fact that Kate clearly never acted well around Meghan.
I wonder if Kate is insisting on this narrative of being a warm and cuddly person so that her actions with Meghan aren’t excused due to her being naturally cold – she wants people to know that she was snubbing Meghan!
Nothing warm in performative warmness. She definitely should embrace her cold demeanor, playing it like “Englishess”, or, maybe, shyness or “introvertness”. Her PR has already tried that angle “Kate is introvert”, as I recall. They need to be consistent. Anyway, she looks ridiculous with her sudden hugs.
Agree it looks ridiculous. Makes one wonder what the people in the crowd that day thought of it, the falseness would have been apparent.
They’re just going through Spare and trying to prove they aren’t any of the things H said.
The thing is we don’t believe them anymore.
Has she been seen hugging people before Spare was published?
Hope H&M have recordings or footage that proves the point, and even if they don’t I now still believe H&M.
To brief against H&M the way they did was unforgivable, I didn’t know her (though know someone who worked for her through a relative) think Diana would not have liked what Willy became and she would have hated K.
To keep the kind of wealth they have and hoarded for years will still be held against them.
Our eyes are open to them. The scales can’t be put back once they fallen.
It’s too little too late.
She needs to stop snubbing Meghan in public for all the world to see. That is why people see her as a cold Mean Girl. Instead she doubles down.
The Wales are a hopeless duo. If as has been demonstrated their goal in character development is to mirror the Sussexes, they have loss the battle. Harry and Meghan said it best in their docuseries, any interaction you have with a person is that person’s moment. The wales make it their moment, not the persons. A pathetic duo.
Agreed! It’s like W&K are thinking “we can do that stupid stuff, too!” and thinking how H&M act is performative/scripted instead of who they really are. And if comes off weird because it’s not who they are. They need therapy to figure out who they really are.
Catty has always been a cold fish – nothing has changed, she may have relaxed somewhat once she got the ring but that was smug satisfaction that she got her prize.
Anyways, I think you have to be a cold hearted b!tch to survive in that family and in those aristo circles.
I think this too. Certain empathic personality types would always struggle to survive intact, emotionally & mentally, within that institution. Not without surrendering all that was genuine and unique about them anyway. Diana, Harry & Meghan are cases in point. They were/are just too genuine, too real, too hopeful and too kind hearted to live healthily with the undercurrent of machination and nastiness that flows through the entire system. The ones that have survived have adapted themselves to the system as it’s the easiest path. Some will have found this adaptation easier than others depending on their baseline, innate personalities. I’ve seen it happen in toxic workplace environments too, the bitchiness spreads like a disease if it’s what’s needed to survive.
As for Kate being a born again hugger…sure Jan 🙄.
A born again hugger😂
This makes Kate look worse. That she singled Meghan out in rejecting Meghan’s hugs.
Also Kate and the UK media are acting as if there isn’t a photo graphic record of her previous lack of hugging, which makes Kate look even pettier.
This looks like Kate will hug everyone BUT Meghan. It looks racist as hell. Kate is not a hugger. Her hugs looked awkward and forced.
They are not racist according to Harry. It’s just unconscious bias lol.
In the first instance, H was offering grace…….it takes someone with perception to recognize that.
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Secondly, wherever H is quoted or whenever he is seen to speak on the matter of unconscious bias and race, he says: (1) we ALL have unconscious biases. (2) it is a human failing and no one is being blamed for having unconscious bias……..it is a product of one’s upbringing. (3) however, if after its pointed out to you that the views you hold are racist and you persist in holding those those views, then you are being deliberately racist and therefore, becomes part of the problem.
Agreed Kingston.
Thank you Kingston for repeating Harry’s thoughts in full. It is the last portion of what he has said that needs to be emphasized. Too many are too concerned with directing their issues at him and not those who knowingly have said or done things that are racially biased and continue that path even after they are told that what they have said or done can be seen as racist.
This exactly. Playing up the idea that she’s a hugger and super affectionate just makes the way she treated Meghan seem worse and absolutely racist. It is totally ok to not be a hugger (though I do think in this case, Kate was also being purposefully cold to Meghan in particular).
Who is Kate at this point without Meghan? Everything she does is in relation to Meghan. Meghan was surprised that hugging was so jarring for her so now she’s on a hugging spree to show that she hugs just like Meghan. Seriously, wtf? And if that’s actually the case, that just means she didn’t want to hug Meghan and was cold to her from the start. Kate Middleton has turned herself into an absolute joke. She lost her mind when Meghan entered into the picture and has never recovered it.
Truth!!
This!! She’s painted herself into a corner now.
I don’t get them or their Comms team. Do they not understand how this article makes Kate look?
Just the fact that Kate was not usually seen hugging. Meghan said something in a documentary, and now Kate is hugging everyone in sight, and now there are articles about it makes Kate look ridiculous. Totally ridiculous.
Unfortunately for the Princess of Hugs there are a ton of photos on the internet of her NOT hugging Black people, even seeming to avoid shaking their hands. Twitter has the receipts.
The tabloids and Kate both look stupid. Anyone with common sense can see she’s doing all that to combat what Meghan said. Same with them coordinating their coats during the flop Christmas special. Where are all the pictures before the Netflix show of matching outfits and hugging?
Will never get over the matching burgundy brigade. Way to show the world you are obsessively bothered by what Meghan says. Meanwhile meghan remains unbothered in Montecito. Also love how anonymous friends are the new palace sources.
That ‘all in burgundy’ was childish beyond belief and should never have been allowed to go ahead.
Just another example of how badly W needs reining in.
Completely agree with you on how they could have played this.
Katy is a f*cking fraud. Periodt.
More than likely Meg is EVERYTHING that Katy wants to be. We can go through the superlatives again but why bother? Meghan is THAT woman and Kate is ventriloquist milquetoast dummy groomed to be the princess. Even Pippa would have been a better princess.
I think Meghan is everything William’s wife wants others to THINK she is. She in no way was ever going to put in any work or effort. But if people think she’s warm, affectionate, hardworking, etc that’s even better.
It’s her self satisfied smirk that she has every time she blatantly copies Meghan that truly makes her look creepy as f*ck. There is something seriously not right with this woman.
I agree that this is not the way to play this. People, even on here, were actually defending her after those stories, saying that not everyone is a hugger, people have different definitions of personal space, etc.
Emphasizing that Kate is perfectly fine hugging relative strangers but wasn’t fine hugging Meghan isn’t really a good look here.
@Becks: Kate proved Meghan right and I’m here for it. There was nothing wrong with Meghan did especially when Harry says he was surprised by the way William and Kate reacted to Meghan when they met. It says that his former girlfriends were not expected to be formal with William and Kate and they probably did hug or kiss each other when they met. William and Kate were being purposely cold to Meghan.
This is the other thing that gets me. It is totally clear that while Harry’s relationship with W/K wasn’t super close despite the tabloid and PR spin, it was friendly enough behind closed doors and they were welcoming and friendly to his previous girlfriends.
Even with Harry’s 2016-17 blinders on (I do think he was naive and didn’t totally prepare Meghan), I think he would have said “my brother and SIL are really cold and formal behind closed doors too, just fyi!” if they had previously been unwelcoming to his girlfriends. I don’t think Harry is perfect and I do think he had blinders on about his family especially then, but I don’t think he’s stupid. He clearly expected the same treatment his earlier girlfriends got from W/K. Which is so telling about W/K and how they treated Meghan.
100000%, BITSYC. Harry thought they’d treat her like a person, and the way previous girlfriends were. I wish he’d included a line that emphasized that. Maybe it’s in the 400 pages of the second, truly scalding book.
Yup, I thought that was very telling. Everyone always says “well why didn’t Harry prepare Meghan more” or something. And while I do think he had blinders on like Bitsy says, I also think a big part of it was that he didn’t prepare her bc he didn’t think she needed to be prepared for some things, you know? He clearly prepared her for meeting Charles and Camilla, if he had thought the same was required for W&K he would have done so. He clearly did not expect their reactions to her.
The fact that William and Kate expected a curtsy when they arrived at Nott Cott for dinner just says it all about how that dynamic was going to play out.
This is why I don’t give the benefit of the doubt. Lots of celebitchies straight up ignored black women when we said that there was more to Kate’s coldness than “personal space,” but we were treated weird, all to give a racist white woman (Kate) the benefit of the doubt.
I hope people think it was worth it.
Amen. I don’t give Katy credit on anything she does. Even if this Shaping Us or whatever it’s called is huge success I. Don’t. Care. She is a selfish, lazy, hateful creature who assisted in the torture of Meghan and done with her.
I would NOT want her hugging me. Imagine that maniacal smile coming atchu, followed by a thorough stabbing of buttons and bones. Probably get hair in your mouth too. No than you.
Hahahaha, I’m dead. *picking wiglet hairs off my tongue*
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 IKR??! This is so pathetic it would be sad if it were anyone else; with Kate though, it’s a creepy sham. Cue the vacation she’ll need to recover from all that hugging. I can see her taking extra showers to wash off all the peasant germs. She’s doing God’s work, y’all!
HEY KATE: We still see you. 🙄
The level of manipulation and gaslighting from all of them but particularly form Wan(d)k (credit to whoever came up with this. It’s brilliant!) is incredible
Also, suddenly assymetrical hemlines and pleats have suddenly started to become a k signature. This woman is crazy!
How do they not realize that “nuh-uh, look at this, Kate is totally a hugger!” is not just unconvincing, but actively makes her look WORSE. What is it about Meghan that set her apart and warranted the sudden coolness from the allegedly demonstratively affectionate Kate? Can’t put my finger on it…
They act like we are saying it is a crime for Kate to not be a hugger. I’m not a hugger, never have been and that is okay! Because I make up for it being warm, friendly and open. I dont actively flinch when gently touched on the arms by POC. I may be awkward AF when people come in for a hug, but I give it all I’ve got, my lower body isn’t a foot plus from theirs.
If they would stop talking about it and forcing Kate into hugging people, eventually we would all forget. (And I love Meghan but if she came rushing towards me for a hug on our first meeting I would be SO awkward, sister in law or not. And it seems like Meghan would go “oh! You’re not a hugger, noted.” )
In the distorted bubble they and the rota live in this is a way to ‘prove’ that Meghan was lying. They can’t see that to regular outsiders looking in and noticing that it comes across exactly as you describe. That’s the danger of echo chambers.
They might make her stop doing it. As of today uk news saying Camilla had tested positive for Covid.
The friend is probably Carole or Gary. Kate is such a phony
It has to be one of them, right? Seriously, do we have any evidence of Kate having even a single actual friend she’s not related to? She doesn’t even appear to be on particularly friendly terms with the other women in the RF, outside of official engagements.
No, I think it’s just a palace source, aka the palace comms team. They’re just sensitive to the idea that the palace plants stories so they’re going with anonymous friends. Another way to try and call
Harry and Meghan liars and show how the palace would never leak and plant narratives.
Kate was purposely cold to Meghan. Let’s accept that, it had nothing to do with her being reserved or self-contained or unaffectionate. She and William were on a mission to make Meghan feel unwelcomed and isolated. Kate is hugging people now because she didn’t like being revealed as cold and unwelcoming. I think the docuseries and the book have rattled her and now she feels she has to disprove everything that Harry and Meghan has said about her.
And, as others have pointed out, part of the reason she was purposefully cold to Meghan is that Kate is a racist. She felt comfortable treating Meghan as if Meghan was beneath her. When, in truth, Meghan is so much better than Kate in every way.
Kate can publicly apologize to Meghan instead of playing these obvious games.she is so self righteous hypocrite.
@Tessa: Agreed.
btw the Hobbs coat she wore is brand new. The versions she wore years ago are knee length
I thought Meghan was talking about the first time meeting William in the docuseries (when Kate wasn’t there) & that she hugged him. It’s then suggested in Spare that William perhaps expected a curtsey not a hug & that’s the unexpected formality behind closed doors Meghan referred to.
So not clear why Kate/her friendly press outlets seem to be reacting this way. It’s so silly that Kate seems to be going out her way to hug everyone (and I’ve noticed she even seems to be copying the arm rub Meghan does – creepy!) , take selfies etc or that the press is highlighting this because that just proves she is reacting to the docu series & Spare even though the press claims the palace weren’t going to read/watch these & were rising above them.
Plus it is very possible that Kate can be friendly to random people AND be cold to meghan. The Fail said Kate is a huggy person with people that she likes anc suggesting she didn’t like Meghan which is entirely possible. Even Kate friendly press said she was wary of Meghan from the start & her Times birthday profile which was meant to be a complimentary piece said that she has ice running through her veins.
@Abritguest: Meghan was talking about when they came over for dinner. Harry said in his book that Meghan met William first without Kate and he was cold as well.
I thought he said William was fine at that meeting. Not overly friendly but ok. And that’s another reason Harry was shocked at how they acted when they both came to dinner.
Yeah in the docuseries Meghan mentions about W&K coming over for dinner & meeting Kate the first time. She then talks about being super casual, barefoot & being a hugger & how she didn’t realise that Brits found that jarring & quickly noting how the royals’ formality carries into their personal space. She doesn’t really go into detail whereas in Spare Harry says that William recoiled from Meghan’s hug. So Kate or her press buddies making a big thing that Kate is this big hugger speaks of guilty conscience as Meghan didn’t actually say she wasn’t a hugger etc
But generally you can read between the lines that W&K were cold to Meghan. When news of the ‘feud’ between the fab 4 came out- the press said it’ was because William had warned Harry to slow down & Harry had been upset that W&K hadn’t rolled out the red carpet for Meghan. Whereas sounds like they had no interest in making her feel welcome & I think they made up expectations of how Meghan should treat them (eg Will expecting a curtsey when I bet Harry’s girlfriends had never had to curtsey to him before privately or exchanging Easter presents when that wasn’t a tradition) for why they didn’t like her.
She just.made things worse for herself showing imo that she is very fake
Also feels like this is a bad copy of the scene in the Meghan/Harry Netflix documentary where Meghan goes back to her old elementary school. Meghan & her mom hug the principal and read a passage that young Meghan wrote to the principal and school. Meghan’s visit was warm and genuine, even if it was pre-planned for the documentary. Kate’s copy version with this teacher feels wooden, flat and staged. Kate, we see your continued attempts to copy Meghan and it is not working. You need to move on. Meghan and Harry already have.
Exactly, that scene was 100% the inspiration for this “random” encounter. Kate is systematically copykeening every single thing that Meghan has ever worn or done, except actually helping people.
Fake. Fake. Fake.
I’m hearing Julia Louis Dreyfus as Elaine saying that in the famous masturbation episode. Talking about pretending to have an orgasm. ‘Fake. Fake. Fake.’ 😂
Copy keen strikes again. What’s next her own podcast? Oops no that would actually be work.
Are people actually buying this latest performance?? After being outed for having made Meghan cry – and allowing the damaging lie that it was the other way around to stay out there – how could anyone believe anything this broomstick does or says?
It’s amazing how much power H&M have over the RF. Every move the RF makes is in direct response to something H&M did or said. W&K in particular have zero ability to just do their own thing.
So now K is going around giving practiced, pre-arranged, perfectly-angled robot hugs.
Pathetic.
The “hug” with Preet Chandi looks very awkward.
And I’ll bet Kate was very huggy and tactile with Harry before Meghan entered the picture.
Oh she’s definitely more huggy and tactile with every man she comes in contact with, except her husband. It’s one of the reasons why the media keeps crying about their weird threesome. Harry humanized them.
I don’t get them or their Comms team. Do they not understand how this article makes Kate look?
Just the fact that Kate was not usually seen hugging. Meghan said something in a documentary, and now Kate is hugging everyone in sight, and now there are articles about it makes Kate look ridiculous. Totally ridiculous.
I believe they think it will discredit Meghan – as if people will see these photos and question the truth of what Meghan said about Kate not being a hugger. This furthers their narrative of Meghan being a liar that they have long pushed in the media. Their ultimate goal is for everything Meghan says to be controversial or “untrustworthy.” They believe this not only embiggens Kate, but also helps them maintain control of public perception.
Also, everything Kate and her people do is about discrediting, erasing, and criticizing Meghan. They want Kate to appropriate Meghan’s positive qualities so people associate them with Kate, and they simultaneously want Meghan to be completely erased or disliked. Ultimately, they are intensely obsessed with controlling Meghan’s public perception.
Meghan is not safe around them and I am so glad she is in California. I do believe her life was at risk.
Wasn’t it protocol that pda was a big no no? Hugging is a pda no? Wasn’t there article after article about how Meghan was breaching all kind of rules by holding Harry’s hand and so on? Please correct me if I’m wrong 🤗
It wa a set up. Kate knew he would be there. I cannot remember where I read it but the teacher said *they* (Kp staff) contacted him and asked him to be there and it was his day off but he told them he would show up anyway. So, yes of course it was all stage managed just like the rest of all their visits. Just like in the US that kid that dressed up in British uniform obviously was not American and was most likely their staffs kid flown over with them for the photo op. I’m convinced the majority of their little vanity outings are all heavily stage managed.
They are rewriting history. The RF and the press are doing “operation death by s thousand cuts” to discredit H&M. While the documentary and book are out it’s done meanwhile the press doesn’t stop and won’t. They are hoping to discredit H&M long term to make them into pariahs that affects their ability to make money.
Truly horrendous. As Harry said, ‘it’s a dirty game’.
Whoever is really behind it may find that, ultimately, it will backfire on them. W, KM, and Parker-Bowles.
They can try to rewrite history but it won’t work. Old videos of Bulliam and KKKate are available for people to see and can be widely shared in seconds thanks to social media.
I am surprised they didn’t have him bring out a yearbook where she wrote something similar to what Meghan wrote to her former principal 😛
Am I alone in finding it a bit odd to hug your former teacher, period? Or have I forgotten how tactile people used to be before the pandemic? I’m going to a school reunion next month and I would be very surprised if I saw anyone greeting a teacher in such an affectionate fashion. It’s not that I don’t like any of my former teachers, but it seems odd to act all BFF with someone you’re not on first-name terms with.
In the Harry and Meghan documentary, there is a scene where Meghan and Doria meet up with the principal from Meghan’s elementary school and they’re reminiscing and laughing and hugging each other. I guess Kate wants to meet someone from her pre-royal life now.
Aside from her history of not hugging (which I maintain was an long-held overcorrection around being perceived as middle-class rather than an actual personal trait) , this is what struck me as most weird! MAYBE if I ran into them during college years but it would feel overfamiliar to hug even my two most beloved teachers from 20 years ago. Hell, it would feel overfamiliar to hug school friends I’d lost touch with from that long ago!
But I’m saying that as mostly a non-hugger, it clearly doesn’t come as naturally to me as it does to Handsy Cathy lol.
They really are tone deaf. Catherine is hugging people to prove she is warm and caring and not at all putting on an act for her engagements, pretty much confirming she is phony, if she has this much to prove at the expense of looking like a racist.
Reminds me of when they trotted out William’s “Black (work) friend” to prove he is not a racist, pretty much confirming he is a racist.
You’ll notice with all the senior royals there are ALWAYS plenty of POC in their photos when they are working, and absolutely none when they are off duty
This is such a blatant attempt to cover up bad behaviour. Keen iced Meghan out from the get-go, and Pegs…well…he seems to have a whole mixed bag of emotions about Meghan — everything from lust to jealousy to spite to condescension. However it’s Meghan’s intelligence, focus, work ethos and compassion that they most hate because the biracial American *actress* outclassed and outworked them by a country mile. Hugging a near stranger is a lot safer than hugging a family member you despise for no good reason other than being green with envy.
There is no coincidence at meeting anyone as they are all vetted and invited beforehand for any Royal Visit. She knew he would there and he knew she would be there! Sad to have to arrange a meeting with someone who ‘likes’ you. Simon Reeves has a programme on BBC 2 called Cornwall and it is worth looking at to see the inequalities in that ‘Dukedom’ with food banks and young people having to leave for work and unable to afford housing. Only rich newcomers and ‘who you know’ established people get jobs etc….. The old man who does a food delivery in Camborne even on the day before his Wife’s funeral is gut wrenching. These two waste of time individuals calling themselves mental health, climate and childcare experts are a disgrace.
Look up the episode 1 on I player if you can: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000pb6s
My husband was born in Cornwall and he chose to leave and join me in London as it was so racist and parochial down there when we met…it has got better but still the rich rule and very Royalist.
From icy B—tch to affectionate hugger is now my néw favorite saying. Thanks Kaiser . You never disappoint.
If Kate had the confidence to own her more reserved approach she would. However Meghan isn’t wrong in her approach either. She’s not just randomly hugging everyone like some hug guru. That said, it’s really interesting how the Sussexes frame these anecdotes. They mention it almost casually in passing, such as “ I’m a hugger but for some people that can be quite jarring”, then onto the next topic. It’s very subtle but does what it needs to do. Meanwhile Ms. Waleses team is seeing this as a major character flaw callout, a gauntlet thrown down, and will instigate enough hugging photo ops to give Kate a repetitive stress injury. It would be hilarious if it wasn’t so obsessive and serious for them. That Meghan file and look book is huge and meticulously maintained. These people really really want to body snatch the Duchess of Sussex and erase the real woman.
Videos of Meghan (and Harry) being warm and affectionate with people go viral every-time and they desperately want that for the remainers. Unfortunately there’s no authenticity behind it and people can see through it coz KKKate is so wooden.
This sad attempt at trying to make Kate into a Meghan 2.0 is really pathological Kate treated Meghan horribly . Yet so desperately want to be her she Copy her clothing her mannerisms her hairstyle and even try’s to be more Meghan like to be this easy breezy California girl who everyone want to be friend with . This is single white Karen behavior is weird I don’t understand how anyone who around her can see her trying to be Meghan a woman Kate obviously hates and is jealous of . Not pulled Kate a side and say something it’s creepy she in a one side obsession with Meghan she desperate to prove that she not this cold heart rude woman who a bully and racist and very fully of herself because of her status . Meghan show up and held a mirror to kate and Kate didn’t like what she saw and she decided to take it out on Meghan . All this hugging nonsense all suddenly proves Kate knows what was said about her in documentary and in spare is bother by it .
Cue Kate in bare feet and ripped jeans in 5…4…3…
I’m not a hugger. I have to really know you and like you to hug you, I am very protective of my bubble. When people go in for a hug and I can’t politely avoid it, I grin and bear it
That being said, I *never* hug strangers. I never initiate it. Never.
Haven’t there been numerous pieces written in the past about how Kate uses her bags and what not to avoid physical contact with people? Now she’s the most huggy-wuggy person on the planet. LOL give me a break. 🙄
It’s so blatant. Can they really be this consistently bad at PR? Are they self-sabotaging because they know that their way of life is wrong but they can’t consciously acknowledge it?
Huh, so the teacher had a day off but attended when KP contacted him. Did they also tell him that Wails would be hugging him? I wonder how he felt about that? I would have loved to see his face when she hugged him.
The KP staff are not good at this stuff at all. Is it because they don’t understand how the modern day press, photogs, and social media plays into all of this. They have to start understanding that they DON’T control the narrative. They can put their narrative out there, but people are going to call them out for this crap. LEARN SOMETHING from all of your gaffs, dolts!
Non-huggers, I see you. The diff between us and Kate is that we’re not icy and stuck up about it. Everyone has different personal space bubbles, and those can change depending on the other person. But I don’t instantly disdain or dislike the hugger I’m meeting for the first time. There’s definitely more going on with miss Kate.
Yep, this. I’m awkward and uncomfortable when anyone besides my husband hugs me (including family), but I’m not cold. While some people get noxious about it, most people understand that some people just aren’t huggers and it’s fine. I’m sure Meghan and Harry understand too, though they’re both huggers themselves. They don’t strike me as people who would be offended at someone not wanting to hug if that were all there was to it.
Also Kate got offended by everything and wanted Easter presents. So we have evidence. If she’d happily hugged Meghan when they first met, it would have been to find the best way to stick a knife in her back.
The story used to be that the Queen wasn’t tactile on walkabouts because of the danger involved both from would be assassins and transmissible infections. Her schedules were all prearranged by the Palace and the place she may be visiting and if she were to catch something… it’s all ok. And I don’t hug because I have a poor immune system due to chronic disease. Have Kate’s random huggees been screened for COVID? For Strep, for Flu?
Not all of the BRF are a classless bunch. Kate is though as is Zara Phillips. I read somewhere that that ex teacher has gone to some of her other engagements.