Lacey: The Sussexes didn’t get what they wanted in Chubbly negotiations!

Now that I’ve had time to think about the Duke and Duchess of Sussex’s decision regarding King Charles’s coronation, I don’t really hate it. I didn’t hate it when it was announced either – I was mostly relieved that Meghan and the children were staying away, and that Harry was making it abundantly clear that he was only coming for the “crowning” part and nothing else. We might have some angst about Harry choosing to give into his toxic, racist and abusive relations, but Spare made me understand how much Harry still loves his father and wants peace and understanding from his father specifically. Harry’s attendance isn’t “selling out” Meghan or her experience in any way, in my opinion – he’s going because he’s the bigger man and because his father made a point of including him.

Of course, Charles also made a point of excluding Meghan, Archie and Lilibet. The palace made it clear that while Meghan was invited, they hoped she would not come. The palace also made it clear that the Sussexes’ children were not invited whatsoever. So I do judge Harry a bit for agreeing to go to this clownshow when his family is still disrespecting his wife and their children. As for Meghan… Scobie reports that Archie’s birthday was Meg’s biggest priority.

I hope Meghan and the kids are surrounded by love, friends and cake on May 6th. I hope she throws a party for Archie and all of his little friends come and all of Meghan’s friends come and they just do it that way. Then they can do a family celebration when Harry returns, probably the next day. Meanwhile, the British media is trying to make “Meghan snubbed the Windsors” into a thing, like these people didn’t go out of their way to harass her, smear her and threaten her for years.

Wednesday’s announcement that Harry will attend, without Meghan and their children, Prince Archie, three, and Princess Lilibet, one, will probably fuel the narrative that difficulties between the couple and the palace remain very real, with some undoubtedly interpreting Meghan’s decision to stay away as a snub.

But some believe the decision for Harry to attend alone could be to be down to a failure in negotiations, with the Sussexes not being able to get what they want. With the invitation going out a month ago, “it seems the result of the best part of a month’s discussions and negotiations have not worked,” said the royal historian and author Robert Lacey. The invitation had been on the table for a month, so negotiations were likely, said Lacey, “because it was possible for the Sussexes to reply a month ago”.

As non-working royals, it has been reported that the Sussexes were not expected to play any formal part in the Westminster Abbey ceremony, including any appearance on the palace balcony, though the palace has not confirmed this. Meanwhile, the Prince of Wales will play a prominent role as heir, and his son Prince George, nine, has a substantial role as one of the pages of honour to the king.

Negotiations might have faltered on where the Sussexes could expect to be seated, or whether they should be included in the carriage procession from Westminster Abbey to Buckingham Palace after the ceremony. The Waleses, the newly titled Duke and Duchess of Edinburgh, the Princess Royal and her husband, the Gloucesters and the Duke of Kent and his sister Princess Alexandra are understood to be part of that procession.

Harry was reportedly not happy over his seating at the Queen’s platinum jubilee service, said Lacey. “It’s all about negotiating over the Abbey equivalent of Siberia as to where Harry was going to be seated,” he added. “There are invitations. And there are invitations,” said Lacey, adding that the seating plan “may have been the substance of what has not been resolved to their [the Sussexes’] satisfaction”.

After Spare’s publication, the king had “acted with a combination of firmness and conciliation”, said Lacey. Firmness in ending the couple’s lease arrangement of Frogmore Cottage, and conciliation “in that he made clear early on that they were both welcome at his coronation”.

“In view of what has happened, it is hardly surprising; the book, the Oprah interviews, the Netflix documentaries, they were sustained attacks on the family itself and on the monarchy. And, especially, an attack on the new queen. For the king to offer an invitation in those circumstances was good-hearted and forgiving. But the Sussexes clearly weren’t offered enough,” he said. On the other hand, he said, it could be seen in a positive light. “The fact Harry is coming could be said to be a fruitful compromise. It actually says quite a lot of hopeful things, considering what Harry has said about his father, and his apparent condemnation of his father, and his being willing to put that aside. So, it could be a step forward.”

[From The Guardian]

The British people/commentators obsessing over their completely tragic little status symbols remains one of the most bonkers things I’ve ever seen. They won’t be allowed on the balcony! They won’t be seated in the front row! They won’t ride in a bumpy procession! Literally no one cares but the people who invented these grim little status events. All of which to say, it’s extremely stupid to believe that Meghan refused to go to the coronation because of the seating chart.

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  1. AD says:

    All he’s doing is making assumptions. He doesn’t know anything as he gave 2 schools of thought. Perhaps this or that
    This whole balcony rubbish. Nobody cares bout that but them.

    • Yes as always he is tilting at windmills with his crap. I think Harry is doing what he feels is right and nothing more. Meg is saying pound sand I’m doing Archie’s Birthday. I hope all goes well for them both.

      • CrazyHeCallsMe says:

        I hope Archie’s birthday is a big blowout with moon bounces, slides and the entire works. Maybe Tyler Perry will lend a hand and make it a true extravaganza. And I hope somehow pictures leak to People magazine about what a wonderful joyous time was had by all.

      • HennyO says:

        The both sides, mind-gynmastics this guy is making to digsplain his guessing crap, is causing me whiplash. In other words, lazy Lacey knows shit.

      • Pam says:

        I’m hoping the birthday is a big blowout with lots of pictures and videos blowing up the internet…preferably during the crowning.

      • Elizabeth Phillips says:

        I agree totally, CRAZYHECALLSME. I hope they release photos of the party and it knocks the Coronation off the front page.

        I’m also still hoping it rains in London that day and the whole thing is a sodden mess. A wheel falls off the golden coach, KFC trips over his soaking wet robes, the archbishop drops the crown and spills the annointing oil in his lap, the diamonds fall out of Camilla’s crown, and Kate falls over when she curtseys.

    • Stewart says:

      So how many here are still going to watch that shitshow just for the tiaras? With no Meghan by Harry’s side the whole thing is a big no. Never want to give them any of my viewing time or tv ratings.

      • LRB says:

        So happy to say that although I am English I will be out of the country and away from all tv and internet… so #notmyking…on balance I think it is right that Harry goes, but not for all the rubbish reasons the press are giving. He doesn’t need the publicity, frankly he doesn’t care, he has such an amazing life now and one I suspect he could never have dreamed of. But because Charlie boy is his father, and it is the biggest day in his life and I sincerely hope he is our last ever monarch… so he needs to support his Father in ways his father could never be bothered to support him. Harry and Meghan have made this decision together, and let’s hope Harry sails in, sails out… and has done his duty.

      • Kel says:

        @stewart yes!!
        So many people will watch and then complain after watching lol.
        I refuse to give these evil people engagement. I’ll do the same as I did with Phillips funeral! I’ll be asleep in bed lol.

      • ShazBot says:

        It’s at like 6am my time. I’ll look at the pics after but will certainly not be waking up for it.

      • Whyforthelove says:

        Nope! Will not watch a thing. The only reason I care about King Charles at this point is because Disney used him to measure how long they can continue to screw with DeSantis. 🤭🤭

      • windyriver says:

        @ShazBot – and that’s 6 am for the US east coast (and Canada) where I am. In the midwest (e.g., Chicago) it’s 5 am, and 3 am on the west coasts of the US and Canada. I’m curious what kind of live US coverage they’ll even have with viewing hours like those. I doubt the overall viewership numbers from this region will look good…

      • Robert Phillips says:

        See that’s the thing that none of the tabloids is admitting. If Meaghan went all camera’s would be on her the whole time. No matter where they sat her. It won’t happen, but I hope the camera’s do a split screen when they put the crown on Charles head. And also show the protestors outside holding up the NotmyKing signs.

      • Juniper says:

        I’m not going to watch it. I’ll check out highlights in the news and look at pictures afterwards.

      • Jojo says:

        Think I might revamp the feature wall in my dining room early morning just so I’ve got some paint to watch drying by 11am.

      • Jojo says:

        They will lie about the tv ratings here in the UK anyway. It’s inevitable. Just like camera angles, procession route manipulation and BBC coverage will make it look like thousands are lining the streets of London and millions are celebrating at jolly street parties across the land. They always do this.

      • twoz says:

        For the Wails’ wedding I went and painted the back room ceiling.
        This one, I’m not even going to ignore with with paint. Just ignore it.
        Bring on the republic. #notmyking

    • kirk says:

      I started reading Lacey’s crap last night, then realized I didn’t want to give his lies the respect of a click, even through Apple News filter. Won’t even bother to read it here. Dude’s managed to make a lucrative life for himself from MA (not PhD) in History. His primary efforts to understand Meghan have been to seek out and give disproportionate weight to any person willing to trash her, and (o holy surprise) – such sought out persons remain unnamed.

      Monarchist is Willy’s stenographer.
      Glad I read library copy of his Battle book. Won’t seek out his other books on Saudi Arabia or Henry Ford given critical reviews.

  2. Snuffles says:

    In other words, they don’t know shit.

    I also doubt they give a shit about being in the procession or where they even sit. I’m sure Harry and Meghan were perfectly happy sitting with the York sisters during the Jubbly. Plus they had their own procession. Nothing to be upset about.

    • Josephine says:

      and let’s be honest – Meghan not attending is the worst thing that could happen to the con-a-nation because now there is absolutely nothing exciting or intriguing about the stupid event and fewer people will tune in. i think Meghan was smart not to lend her star power to the event.

      • L84Tea says:

        I agree. It was going to be the Meghan show if she came, and I’m thrilled they’re getting zero from her. The BM can deny it all they want, but they were dying for her to come. Instead, she gets to stay home in her lovely house with her kiddos and stay sane. I also believe Harry’s attendance is going to be pretty anti-climactic. I think he’s going to go in, watch, duck out, and get back on his plane. Not much more.

      • Ang says:

        You are absolutely right, @josephine
        Meg has snatched the money right out of the papers’ pockets, and dimmed the wattage on this entire event tenfold!

      • ML says:

        Meghan is on record saying she doesn’t want to pull focus—the press can’t seem to stay away from her, but that is not on Meghan. She is doing the right thing by staying away.

      • notasugarhere says:

        It is the worst thing, because they cannot blame the protests and egg-throwing on the bi-racial Duchess.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        @notasugarhere – I said the exact same thing on another trough. The protests and egg-throwing will have to be now attributed to presence of KFCIII.

      • notasugarhere says:

        And attributed to Camilla, William, Kate, and Andrew.

      • Christine says:

        I agree with you all. There is no planet where Meghan should give one more second of her shine to this horrible family and the media.

      • HennyO says:

        Agree. They better drag the old people in the retirement homes to their TVs to watch this geriatric hatfest, because the middle aged and gen-Y-Z will pay it dust. There is also nothing sexy or exciting to look forward to. I mean, who are the celebrities at the party? It looks like a bevy of old stars of past glory, will show up.

        On top of that, this whole thing is all about who gets snubbed/snubbed (latest one after Meghan is Duchess of York, Sarah), about preferring non-royal grandkids to royal ones (Cams over Waleses), banning cameras from broadcasting the anointed ceremony, banning family members from the balcony (Harry, Meghan, Archie, Lili), cut this, or that.
        I mean, what is this negative attitude surrounding this highly anticipated ‘big day’ all about? Please Chucky, stop this arrogance, your subjects are turning their backs on you.

  3. girl_ninja says:

    I think was the wisest choice Harry and Meghan could’ve made. If being center of attention is what Meghan wanted then she WOULD be going. Because we know she is all those rabid animals obsess over.

    A quick trip in for Harry and back home with his family.

    • Becks1 says:

      that was why I wanted Meghan to go. I just wanted her to prove to them all once again that she is the star without even trying, that her understated chic style outshines Kate’s any day of the week and twice on Sundays, and that all she has to do is show up to dominate the spotlight.

      But, this is okay too because she’s going to dominate the day without even being there.

      • Snuffles says:

        She proves that every time she steps out of the house. No need to subject herself to abuse just to prove an already proven point.

      • Becks1 says:

        True! She could go grocery shopping and steal Kate’s coronation spotlight LOL. That was part of the problem as far as the Windsors were concerned.

      • girl_ninja says:

        She proves that just by breathing.

      • notasugarhere says:

        I think Meghan proved that with the amazing farewell Bad Bitch tour fashions.

    • EM says:

      I’m disappointed in the decision, I wish it would’ve been united either way – either they both go or both stay. This is going to be worse from a PR perspective especially for Meghan. She will always be the one that didn’t go and snubbed the event.

      • MsIam says:

        Meghan is hero for protecting her peace. The only ones complaining are the media and royalists. You can’t snub someone who never wanted you to come in the first place.

    • Mariana says:

      Man, if Diana were alive she and Meghan could have dressed to the nines and crashed the Upchucking together—with the Spencer tiara firmly in place on Meghan’s head. It would’ve been glorious.

      Meghan would never actually do such a thing but Diana would’ve been just fine with burning it to the ground. And would’ve done it in stellar fashion.

  4. PrincessOfWaffles says:

    I hope Harry leaves the country the second the clowning is over, announces he’s out already and then releases a full family photo of Archie’s birthday dated may 6th and jackhammers the press cycle

    • Amy Bee says:

      They’re probably not going to a release a photo they haven’t released one since his second birthday and that one was taken with his back to camera.

    • UNCDancer says:

      I suspect that’s exactly what will happen. By the time the clown show is over, it will be just 8 a.m. in California. He could jet back and still be back for evening celebrations. Harry is going because he is fifth in line to the throne and he is unwilling to allow them to write him out of history. Meghan is not going because … f–k them heauxes. I support all of this! Get ’em, Harry. Show them what a true king look like.

    • ThatsNotOkay says:

      My spidey sense tells me that is what’s going to happen. Or at least it should. Not sure they are ever going to get in the habit of releasing photos of their kids on birthdays, but if they were, now would be the perfect time to start.

  5. equality says:

    KC would have been smarter to publicly let it be known that he wanted all his grandchildren to be there at least behind the scenes for private photos. Having only PH there makes it look bad for him and his supposed “forgiveness”. Any negotiations were likely about security.

    • SAS says:

      That’s the thing- will Harry be in the offical commemoration photos? How sad for his family to not be included if so. We know both Charles and Camilla’s other grandchildren will all be in attendance. I hate it.

      • Jasper says:

        I doubt he’ll be there that long. I could be wrong though. However, if the pictures are dominated by Camilla and her grandchildren, I say good! As we say in Trinidad, “They like it so!” Let it be seen and recorded for posterity, EXACTLY what machinations went on and the result- to ice out the king’s own children and grandchildren in favour of Camilla’s family. It’s like watching medieval royal drama but without the poisons, swords, and armour. The fancy costumes are still there, though.

    • Well Wisher says:

      It was probably one of the motivations choosing that date.
      He wanted the Sussexes to all attend for prosperity, how can one be seen as an uniter and/or defender of the faith, with the world watching and one son is MIA?
      Charles does not seem to know how to deal with family members who’ve managed to transform themselves and have autonomy.
      Negotiations were not necessary in this scenario, this is private invitation to a state (democratic)occasion, and was the wrong time to flex.
      Harry took into consideration the needs of his immediate 👪, and decided that he has to deal with the ‘problem’ in a singular manner.
      The chosen date was used as an ‘out’ for his wife and children.

      • kirk says:

        I briefly wondered if Chuck had chosen Archie’s b-day as ‘his day’ in order to give Meghan an out. Ha ha. As if Chuck is capable of truly considerate thought towards anybody but himself. Even Camz greatest attribute is her love for him.

  6. Laura-Lee MacDonald says:

    When you’re as ‘damned if you, damned if you don’t’ as much as this family in the eyes of so many, it must be hard to juggle any decision. I hope they are all at peace as soon as the 7th arrives. We know the BM and BRF never will be……

  7. K8erade says:

    Harry was put in a tough spot. I think this was the expected outcome.

    I mean think about it from the royal family’s perspective. Living in their aristocratic guided cages they do think these things are important. I think Harry knows it’s all BS but he was raised to believe these things were important. But I think it shocks the palace that he doesn’t care about these things and they think they can suck him back in, especially now.

    I expect Harry will be back home by 5pm. He’ll take a flight into London and take a private flight out and be out within the hour this nonsense is over with.

    • Well Wisher says:

      They’ve always dealt with Harry from the narrow perspective from the monarchy, which in this case is his father.
      No one has taken the time to listen to Harry, but he is determined to be heard, he is also gracious and nonreactionary, this was a thoughtful response to an irrational and unnecessary created situation.

      It should have been just about whether or not to attend an historic event, without the choices seem like a farce.

  8. Becks1 says:

    So I said yesterday that I thought this was a decision reached jointly, and that I thought this was about protecting Meghan’s mental health while Harry does the bare minimum in terms of attendance. And I still think those things are true.

    But I was looking back over comments from the giant thread yesterday and PrincessK made some comments that stuck out to me – here’s her exact quote, just so I get it right – “I bet that Harry and Meghan and the kids were going to be excluded and not properly protected.
    The fact that she is not going to attend is a serious indictment and is evidence that the gulf is as wide as ever.”

    And I think here may be some truth to that. Now the kids were never going to be a part of the ceremony and I don’t think H&M expected that or even wanted it. And maybe its just that Meghan has no desire to step foot back in the UK to show any support for the royal family, ever again (she’ll go back to the UK maybe but not for the royals), which I would 100% understand – I think we all do. But it does make me wonder if there were negotiations underway and that things were planned designed to humiliate H&M and that was a part of their decision for just harry to attend and for just the ceremony.

    • K8erade says:

      I get the feeling that’s true. I think Harry will be out of the country before the procession is even over. He’ll have his eyes on the door. No sense in staying for any of it when he can be home and be at his son’s birthday party later in the day.

    • ThatsNotOkay says:

      The RAVEC Security thing has still not been settled. For some reason Harry is able to move stealthily with his court cases and feels protected enough to come infrequently. But his family is another story. If Charles wanted the rest of the family there, he would have instructed Home Office long ago to reverse course. But he doesn’t so he didn’t. He’s as scummy now as he was then.

      • Weetzie says:

        This was my take on their decision as well. Between the RAVEC situation and the Frogmore Cottage mess I think it came down to a security. My sense of Harry is that when doing risk assessments for his family there are very, very few events in which he will risk the safety of Meghan and their children. I don’t think they’ve been negotiating over seating charts and curtsying, it’s been about security and the RF failed. I think Harry’s trauma triggers are highly, highly activated when it comes to Meghan and the kids. It’s far easier for him to emotionally manage quick in and out trips for himself, but he’s absolutely not going to fuck around with his family’s safety. I hate for him that his family of origin tortures him in this specific way, but I suppose that’s a feature not a bug in dysfunctional, abusive families.

      • Moxylady says:

        My “family” isn’t Royal. They think that they are as important if not more so but that’s besides the point.
        There were two events I went to alone while my husband stayed home with the kiddos. It just did not feel right to ask them to come to any of the events when my family made it so clear they were an afterthought at best.
        We all came for my aunts funeral. My parents walked into my aunts home and right past my husband and kids – I was outside setting up a place for them to play – and didn’t say a word to them. That’s the only time they have “met” my kids.
        I completely understand why Harry is doing this. I’ve done it myself – on a much less globally watched scale. But knowing you survived them for decades and can trot back in quick when you need to and detox by leaving immediately is a super power. I hope he’s in and out with his usual stealth and speed. And god bless meghan and their children.
        Mine are older now and realizing how completely they were ignored and written out of the family by the family. And they partly think it’s due to my decision to go no contact. But in reality, my decision to go no contact was due to the complete bullshit way my family treated my husband and my children.
        I was used to being treated poorly by them. I didn’t like it and I had boundaries about what I would and wouldn’t allow. I also had absolutely no trouble calling them out in public immediately regarding poor behavior. A few times of doing that and their collective narcissism was screaming at them to make it stop.
        What I will say is that I was very transparent with my children about the reasons why I have trauma and how I was doing this to protect all of us. But it still hurts them. And I didn’t expect that. I was completely shook by it actually.
        But craving love from your family is ingrained in us and rejection from family still hurts even when you know that they are awful human beings who you would never actually want to like you – because what would that say about who you are.
        Anyway. Long story short. Watching Harry and Meghan go through this the past 8 years has been horrifying but also something I relate to so deeply. I even can look at Harry’s language around his family and go – ahhhh I remember when I was in that stage. Breaking free from that level of mind control and “family is everything” sort of conditioning is exhausting and it is a PROCESS. my god is it a process. The constant epiphanies can wear a whole person out.
        They are making the best choices that they can considering what they are up against. I wish them all the best.

      • one of the marys says:

        Thatsnotokay If Charles wanted them there he wouldn’t have evicted them from Frogmore. When that news came out it threw a wrench into all the calculations for the coronation.

      • TheVolvesSeidr says:

        all of these comments are spot on I believe.

      • Whyforthelove says:

        Thatsnotokay this is exactly right. Charles can make whatever he wants happen to get them the security they need. He doesn’t do that which means he really doesn’t want them there or he wants them hurt.

    • Dee(2) says:

      I agree. I think Meghan knows she can go back for her charities who are invested in keeping it quiet enough and safe for her. I don’t think she’ll go for any of the BRFs dog and pony shows again because they aren’t invested in doing either. And just like the Jubilee when they whined that they had already left during the concert the media will whine and be stalking LAX for pics of Harry getting home.

      • CrazyHeCallsMe says:

        I know people get all up in arms every time the Sussexes fly private but now would be a good time for Harry to fly by private plane. Icing on the top would be if Tyler Perry loaned his private plane to Harry. That would explode some heads.😂

      • Becks1 says:

        Someone said yesterday that there will probably be a Harry cam following his car back to the airport, OJ-Ford Bronco style, and I absolutely think that will happen, LOL.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Or as someone wrote yesterday, if Harry and his security hitched a ride on Air Force One and stayed at the US Embassy in London.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        @notasugarhere – That scenario would be icing on the cake.

    • Nic919 says:

      They pulled so many slights during the funeral events that i am sure there was even more happening behind the scenes for this, including issues relating to security for everyone.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Becks1 your take makes complete sense to me. Harry isn’t going to risk Meghan and the children being in the UK *away from him* while he attends these events and they’re left unprotected. Or the children being unprotected if Meghan attended events with Harry. The three most important people in Harry’s life are going to stay safe at home.

      • Shawna says:

        Yep. Security has to be at the heart of this. He won’t let them be endangered. Both M&H are so conciliatory that I could have seen a result in which she did come—but only if their kids had rock-solid security.

    • Robert Phillips says:

      Remember the Jubilee and Meaghans white coat. And how it looked big on her. Then all the tabloids kept saying she was hiding microphones and cameras. I think she was wearting a bulletproof vest and that’s why it looked large on her. That event was the only one with a lot of extra people around that couldn’t be surveilled. At the funeral it was all rushed. They didn’t have time to get her one. Or the family wouldn’t allow her to have one. I think that was when Harry admitted that her and the kids aren’t safe in England now. Unless Harry is a complete wreck when Charles dies and Meaghan feels she needs to go to support him. I don’t think she will ever set foot in England again.

  9. Lemons says:

    I feel some kind of way that Harry is going, duty or not because no one on that side of the pond protected his wife or children. No reason to honor or acknowledge that. But hopefully, there is a finality to this…Meghan has removed herself and her children from the narrative (Thank God!) And I hope Harry will do the same once he returns home.

    • abolish the monarchy says:

      It’s complicated, Lemon. Harry served his country in the armed forces for a decade and he still very much supports and is involved with British veterans. He also has these court cases against the British tabloids. Reforming the corrupt, abusive tabloid practices is one of his most important duties (he’s said). In order for these cases to proceed (and hopefully win!) he’ll need judges and juries on his side. Turning his back totally on his country would be hard because of these two reasons (among other ones he might have)

  10. Ginny says:

    I agree with your take on the situation, Kaiser. And I think it’s been abundantly clear that Harry’s top priority — even higher-priority than his relationship with Charles — is his relationship with Meghan, which makes me confident that this decision would have been made jointly. I truly cannot believe that Harry would go if it in ANY way actually jeopardized the security of his relationship with Meghan. They just seem too solidly connected. I understand why many people are upset at Harry about this, but I think we need to try to give the strength of their bond/foundation as a couple a little more credit. Just my two cents!

    • K8erade says:

      I have no doubt this was a joint decision. He wouldn’t be going if Meghan wasn’t supportive of it. She probably even encouraged him to go.

    • Shawna says:

      My attitude toward my husband’s decisions is the same: you do what you won’t regret in the future, even if it inconveniences me or I don’t understand your logic for doing it. I don’t want to be the reason you have regrets in the future.

    • Christine says:

      100%, Ginny.

      Harry and Meghan are a united team. Why the royals and rota haven’t figured it out yet is beyond me. This was a decision between the two of them, and no one else.

  11. Sam says:

    Perfectly said @kaiser!! I’m also just glad now that Meghan won’t go. I would have preferred it if Harry didn’t go either, but maybe it’s good that way.
    Unfortunately I’ve read too many comments and articles since the announcement, where there was so much evil, I’m still so angry and soo frustrated with so much stupidity and injustice in this world, I have to calm down first and read some comments here 💕.
    But what I desperately want to see: a statement from archwell!!!

  12. Jan says:

    After Betty’s funeral, I think Meghan was done with the Windsors and had no intention of going to the ConAnation. 365 days in a year, but tampon chose Archie’s birthday deliberately.
    May he be blessed with showers of rain.

  13. Dawning says:

    I can’t believe this trash that the Guardian has printed. I was gonna donate, but forget it now.
    As foe Meghan not going to the Clown Show: We will never know the true story. I am just happy she won’t have to curtsy to the old Cowmilla; to anyone of those Windsor idiots. The woman has her sense of self-worth and dignity, and I admire her for that. Go Meg!

  14. Jais says:

    There was so much talk about Charles wanting Harry there so he wouldn’t start his kingship with a family rift, like he was able to get the family together. But only Harry going while Meghan stays home doesn’t really support that image, which is a lie anyways. Imo, this looks bad on Charles. I’m glad Meghan’s not going.

    • Becks1 says:

      I actually think it looks worse for Charles that Harry is going and not the two of them. It shows there was a willingness on the part of the Sussexes to meet them halfway and to be there and Charles is the one who was incapable of budging at all. Charles’ biracial daughter in law will not be there and he can try to fill the church with as many other POC as he can find (as we’ve heard he’s trying to do….), but her absence is glaring.

      • equality says:

        Well put.

      • AnneL says:

        That’s a very good point. I am fine with Harry’s decision. No, I don’t think he should have to go to his father’s Clowning. He certainly has no moral obligation after the way he and his family have been treated. But he’s just decided to be the bigger man and attend, if only for the actual ceremony. Sometimes you do “family things” just because you think it’s the right thing to do. He’s going to show up briefly and then go home, and spare his wife and kids the insanity.

      • Kit says:

        Becks this is soo ture it definitely looks bad on Charles but also the English people who in my experience are very inclusive and lovely this is coming from.a Irish person !!! But this decision makes the English people look like Bigots and racist assholes which they are not, but that is honestly what the world and the Commonwealth is seeing here , l cannot believe he signed off on this, the optics for the him and de other two ejits are just awful, so much for William de statesman !

      • Christine says:

        Agreed! There’s no mystery which side of this equation fell completely apart.

  15. Mslove says:

    I think Harry would prefer to stay home too, but I guess he feels it’s his duty to go. I am relieved Meghan & the children are staying home.

  16. Amy Bee says:

    The press believing that negotiations broke down is their way of consoling themselves with the fact that Meghan refused to come.

    • Dutch says:

      The negotiations part may be true just not over the BS stuff like seating and the balcony. Entirely possible the two sides couldn’t strike a deal about security and not briefing the press. After his surprise appearance in court recently Harry knows he can get in and out of the country largely unnoticed, but if those RR jackals know Megan is coming the security risks would increase a hundred fold.

    • Jais says:

      Agree. They don’t want to accept that she’s just not that into you.

  17. Cassie says:

    Sad little man has written the most disgusting headline and story about Meghan today .

    I hope all those journos who have spent the last 7 years hating and abusing her get their come uppance sooner or later .

    They are all completely consumed by hate .
    Its quite troubling to see how obsessed by her .they ars .

    She never had a bad word said abou her till she met Harry .

    I will never understand it and I feel so sorry for her .
    She must love Harry very much .

  18. SussexWatcher says:

    I’m sure he won’t, because he’s not a US official, but I would love love love if he arrives with Dr Biden and sits next to her. And then can fly home with her on Air Force FLOTUS.

    But I wonder what the know-nothing press will say when he’s seated next to the family and not in Siberia seating? And who will they blame all the protesting and boos on now that the Queen of Montecito isn’t coming? It’s hilarious that, after months of Chuckles being protested, they’re writing that Meghan isn’t coming out of fear of being booed. Those clowns. Welp, they wanted their stale, pale, boring Chubbly, and they shall have it.

    • MsIam says:

      Oh I’m sure they will say that now that Meghan is not there, Harry can be embraced by his family again. Barf! Anyway, I can’t imagine the Sussexes interacting with that family any time soon again after this debacle.

    • Renae says:

      Now I think I understand their obsession with hats!
      Its what they wear in public when they aren’t showing their hoods!

  19. Brassy Rebel says:

    I agree with Kaiser. We don’t have to read anything into this except that Harry still loves his father, and I am sure Meghan supports his decision to go because she loves Harry. Right now, Harry’s values (equality, anti-racism, and anti-misogyny) are in tension with his belief system (monarchy and all the bad things that go with it, including racism and colonialism). This is creating cognitive dissonance, not only for him but for all of us who admire his goodness. Hopefully, someday he will resolve this inner conflict and find real peace so he no longer has to keep making these lose-lose choices. In the meantime, I hope he continues to grow and thrive as the great guy he is. And Harry absolutely never “attacked” either the monarchy or his dad in SPARE so apparently Robert Lacey can’t read. He can only run his mouth.

    • Tessa says:

      He loves his father but I think harry is fighting a losing battle. Charles never learns.

      • Well Wisher says:

        That is why he chose to ‘let go’.
        He is wise and strong enough to chose love.
        He did not walk away in to hurt anyone, but to maintain whatever affection remained.

    • windyriver says:

      I think this was the best choice – at this moment in time. Consider how much the Sussexes had going on personally the last 6-9 months: completion/broadcast of 3 major global projects (Archetypes, H&M documentary, Spare); Harry’s interviews for Spare, ongoing work with Better Up, planning for Invictus; death of a beloved family member. Add to that dealing with the funeral BS dished out by the family and the BM. I’m not surprised if Harry hasn’t had time to process everything he’s thinking and feeling (especially with the deaths of his grandparents and the passing of a very specific era in royal history). If the coronation were taking place a year later, he might have made a different choice.

      Also like the ideas put forth in comments that Harry’s attendance is equivalent to a business trip. Harry’s still a British citizen, a former active member of the armed forces, a member of the RF. Charles is not just his father, but also, the CIC and head of state. Harry’s doing his duty, and not spending any more time there than necessary. With his 3 or 4 pending court cases, he’s got a lot of upcoming business in the UK. Attending the coronation means one less stick the BM will have to beat him with when he’s back in England.

      On the other hand, I like the idea some people think Meghan is snubbing them. It’s undoubtedly true the king’s coronation isn’t as important to her as her son’s birthday (who’s fault is it they’re on the same day?). With limited seating, there’s angry people who don’t have their own invitation. But Meghan clearly has better things to do.

      Finally, funny to hear Lacey going on about how the Sussexes seating for the Jubbly was such a big sticking point, when TQ personally arranged for their solo walk into the church (the picture’s right there Bob!), and they got to sit with the family member they’re closest to (Eugenie). He’s such an ass.

  20. Riah says:

    I said this yesterday – I think this is Harry’s Royal goodbye. He won’t be returning for any events after this, except maybe for funerals. This is him washing his hands of the institution.

  21. Nerd says:

    I will be honest and say that I started reading the beep of lies and crap from Lacey and stopped because it was obviously him making baseless assumptions about what Harry and Meghan thought or felt, with an added mixture of lies about who is at fault for all that has happened in the past six years and a sprinkle of title bragging as if any of the people promoted have done anything worth being promoted for. We have all experienced being at a job where we’re are the better prospect and over achieving worker, but some kiss ass who does half the work, if we can call it that, is the one promoted. That is exactly the role call of the royal family. The fact is they are convinced that they are somehow better than everyone else, regardless of how absolutely f’d up and racist they obviously are. They think that stolen jewels and artifacts mask who they are to the rest of the world. They just don’t realize they are just making it easier to point them out.

    • Well Wisher says:

      Lacey is writing as part of a media that is upset that Meghan would not attend the event so they can slate her in public and most importantly deprive them from making money. The did not mean it when they say they did not want her there, since now her absence is seen as a snub.
      They do not know how horrible they sound when they are discussing anything of relative importance concerning the Duchess of Sussex.

  22. Izzy says:

    1) These people crowed endlessly about “polls” showing that the people of Britain didn’t want Meghan there, so their surprise is BS. Meghan is just giving the people what they want: her complete absence, amiright?
    2) These people are really stupid because they still haven’t learned that Harry doesn’t give one fig about where he sits.
    3) I hope Tyler Perry and Oprah are both at Archie’s birthday party, and that Tyler Perry drops an adorable photo on social media. Right in the middle of the coronation. That is my greatest wish for all of them.

    • Anne says:

      Seriously, as as kid Harry was shoved into the corner of the bedroom at Balmoral and showed up to Sandringham for Christmas to find all the bedrooms taken. He’s used to sitting in the back and he doesn’t mind it.

      He’s like Jon Snow at that first feast at Winterfell in “Game Of Thrones,” unable to sit up on the high table with “true born” Starks but actually having more fun sitting at the back drinking and laughing with the lower-downs (sorry, I think that was from the book and was treated differently in the show).

    • Mary Pester says:

      @izzy, yes all about polls so I wonder how they feel that in one poll today only 51% said they would be watching and 19%said they were only watching to see what the ladies wore! Yep, he really is a popular king, NOT. Now what I would love to see is the service to end, Harry leaves the Abbey, jumps on a motorbike Tom Cruise style, speeds back to the airport before anyone realises it and is on his way home before the rest of the clowns have even left the Abbey! Oh to see poor we Khate stood on the steps looking for Harry so she could tilt that head, smile her rictus grin and pretend to be the Peace maker, ha the foot stamping cringe would be wonderful. Now I think Megan NOT attending is great. Great for her peace of mind and great for her and the children’s safety. Oh my, what will they do when the “, not my king banners” and egg throwers come out to play. The world can watch, see that bloody family for who they are, and NO MEGAN AND HARRY to try and spin responsibility onto! Please, please, please let there be some Happy birthday Archie banners. Before I go, thank you all for your kind wishes, I didn’t get good news, but at least I’m home in my own comfy bed, and they are not sticking needles in me every 5 minutes lol

      • Puppy1 says:

        Mary, 🙏🙏🙏♥️♥️♥️

      • Blithe says:

        Mary Pester, I’m sorry to learn that you didn’t get good news. I’m chiming in as one of many of us around the world to wish you well. I’m glad that you’re comfy. I’m also glad that you’re up for sharing your thoughts and Always Awesome posts. Wishing you the best!

        I like your exit on a motorbike scenario!

      • Beverley says:

        Wishing you all the best, Mary Pester.🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

      • I always enjoy reading your posts, wishing you well Mary ❤️

      • Babz says:

        I’m so sorry your news wasn’t what you hoped it would be. One thing I can say is that you have the heart of a warrior, not letting this get you down, and vowing to fight and live your life on your terms. There’s no greater courage than that. I loved your posts, and will look forward to as many of them as you share. Prayers ascending for your journey, Mary. 🙏🏻🙏🏻❤️

  23. Aggie says:

    What if Meghan’s pregnant? That would be amazing.

  24. Pumpkin (Was Sofia) says:

    I said yesterday that no matter how non existent relationships are, this is still Harry’s family and heritage. He’s still the son of a King and it makes sense that he would go to a historical event like this.

    And Meghan is as usual damned if she does, damned if she don’t. If she went she would have been accused of stealing the spotlight, desperate for attention blah blah blah.

  25. AnneL says:

    What are the RR going to do? Soon the Chubbly will be over. Harry will have gone home to sunny California and his beautiful family after a blink-and-you-miss it trip for the ceremony only. No more opportunities for projection and speculation. No more news or sightings until the Sussexes choose their moment and their terms.

    Oh, they’l find SOMETHING to froth about, but they’ll barely be able to work up a spittle for lack of material, lol.

    Next up: “Sales of ‘Spare’ have slowed!” (after blowing through records, generating mountains of money and spending months on the best Best Sellers Lists……)

  26. Tessa says:

    I was hoping Gayle king would speak about this today but I left when the show started. I hope she got a chance to talk about this. Nigel far age was on a radio show today trashing harry and Meghan and saying Camilla has not put a good wrong. Too bad the host did not comment on how Camilla is pals with Meghan bashing Clarkson

    • Tessa says:

      Foot wrong

    • notasugarhere says:

      Farage wouldn’t say a word against Camilla or Clarkson, because he’s completely on board with them. He’s a racist and fascist who pushed for Brexit and who longs for an all-white, immigrant-free Britain. He also ensured his children had foreign citizenship and could easily escape the hellhole of the UK he helped build.

      • kirk says:

        So Nigel Farage is a hypocrite who ensured his own children had foreign citizenship before he Brexited everybody else? not surprising.

      • Lorelei says:

        Imagine saying on live television with a straight face that Camilla of all people has “never put a foot wrong.” LMFAO

  27. Eurydice says:

    Meghan’s non-attendance has “fueled the narrative”? Not the months and months of daily articles about how she and the children wouldn’t be welcome? H&M left years ago and live on the other side of the planet. How much more of a rift between Harry and the RF can these idiots envision? As for negotiations, I call BS – one side doesn’t want to go, the other doesn’t want you there – where is there room for negotiation?

  28. Noor says:

    The monarchy is all about symbols. King Charles image as father of UK is tarnished if the official coronation photos do not include his son, Prince Harry and his family.

    • Well Wisher says:

      Exactly.
      For some he would not be seen as uniter nor defender of the faith.
      One can question his status as a benevolent father.

      Imagine the symbolism of pics with the Sussexes on the actual day??

      He made other choices like being unkind and gaslighting, this option was chosen as the result of those choices.

  29. Serenity says:

    Well Chuck got Harry to come to his Struggly. Yay. Without Meghan. Yay. Now the BM will think if they drag Harry long enough, they can get him to show up for things. HA. I really hope that Harry gets some peace out of this, or whatever it is he’s wanting by going there. I do not want him to have to bow to the Rottweiler.

    I’m praying for Harry’s safety… William has stated before that he would act up at the Struggly if Harry came. Glad Meghan won’t be there, but she would have rocked their tiny world. She still will, all the way from Montecito. 😆

  30. JCallas says:

    This was the outcome the Windsors wanted from the beginning. They knew Harry was always going to come. Now they can sit him at the back of the chapel and force him to wear a suit while the rest are in uniform. Maybe William and Kate can use him for a photo op as well.

    • Lorelei says:

      @JCallas:

      “This was the outcome the Windsors wanted from the beginning.”

      EXACTLY. And this is precisely why I hate it so much. They now see this BS as a ‘winning strategy,’ and will use it again in the future. Poor Harry.

    • Lucky Charm says:

      He’s probably hoping to sit next to the door so he can quietly slip out the second King Charles is crowned. He’ll be on a plane before they’ve all even left the Abbey.

  31. Noor says:

    When Harry stepped back from royal duty, the monarchy has a real chance to make new protocols to embrace Harry and family during ceremonial or family occasions. But instead of doing that they became more rigid and reinforced the distinctions between working and nonworking royals to the extent of making new rules to exclude non working royals from ceremonial occasions. So here we are in a messy noodle of their own making.
    Charles may be King but he is also a father to Harry and family.

  32. aquarius64 says:

    At first I was bummed about Harry going to the Con-a-Nation without Meghan but giving more thought, kudos to Meghan for giving the finger to the BRF for not supporting her when the BM has, and continues to slag her. Kudos to her for robbing the BM of money shots to run in their papers. Any footage of Harry will give hostage video. I also think Harry going is to protect the children’s interests. Archie and Lili have been finally acknowledged by BP as prince and princess. They are 6th and 7th in line to the throne. Archie is still heir apparent to the dukedom of Sussex. The royalty does matter to Harry because on Lili’s birth certificate father is listed as HRH Henry Charles Albert David Duke of Sussex. Harry is going to take one for the team, Team Sussex.

    • ScorpioMoon says:

      This. I’m team Meghan and I fully believe everything she’s said about what happened. I think she stood up for herself, drew a line in the sand, and decided to be a good mother and prioritize her child on his birthday over being tabloid fodder for a bunch of deranged, unhinged sycophants. I think Harry opted to go because he still cares about his father and if he didn’t go, the relationship would be over; can’t fault the man for still wanting to have some semblance of connection to his father. I also think he’s doing it to protect his children’s interests, and by going alone, he’s a lot less likely to get the abuse they were really intending to just inflict on Meghan. The BRF wants Harry back and the press does too; in going alone, he’s “giving” them what they want but also maintaining his birthright, so chances are the treatment will be a lot less negative. (But he’ll also get to see for himself how disingenuous they all are, when it’s just him alone and they’re all rushing to kiss up to him in hopes it compels him to abandon her and their family completely.)

      • Tessa says:

        I don’t think it will be.less negative. The derange r s are still out there. And when harry went solo to Philips funeral he was treated badly by dad and bill.

  33. Lizzie says:

    I felt like Meghan was done with the rf after the Chubbly. I don’t know if she would have gone back for the queen’s funeral had she not already been in the UK when the queen died. All this leads me to think Meghan may have always been a nope for the coronation and the negotiations might have been small offers from Chaz to tempt Meghan rather than Meghan making demands. I don’t think he really cares if she comes but he knows it looks bad and people will lose interest.

  34. Amee says:

    KCIII was the white knight who walked Meg down the aisle when her relationship with her own father was publicly toxic because, as we later found out, the Press obtained correspondence with the aid and assistance of KCIII’s office. Yeah, I wouldn’t go to his coronation, either.

  35. Over it says:

    So in other words Meghan not going is talking the shine off the sh-it show . We all know megs and haz was the moment and these sad clowns are crying salty tears because she held her shine from their dim eyes.

  36. Shawna says:

    As another poster said on another thread, he could conceivably be back on the same day in California time. I’d love them to release birthday shots with Harry clearly in the picture to counter any supposed implication that he’s not prioritizing his family. You can do it, Harry!

  37. OriginalCee says:

    I’d also choose Prince Archie’s birthday party over the Con.

    That being said, if this is a snub, I love it for them. Three words from Charles could have changed everything – “LEAVE THEM ALONE”. They deserve more than a snub but I’m not as classy, nice and smart as Meghan.

  38. Princessk says:

    We will eventually find out the real reason why Meghan is not going and it has nothing to do with Archie’s birthday.
    It has crossed my mind that she may be pregnant…..

    • Homey says:

      This keeps coming up and I’ve been trying to figure out where this narrative came from considering they said 2 was good.
      I googled and sure enough some astrologers were saying they thought Meghan would get pregnant this year.
      I don’t follow astrology so who knows could be true, could not be.
      I mean my parents thought they were done after 3 but they got shocked by 1 more.

      Either way as long as she’s peaceful under a tree that’s all that matters to me.

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      I’m not comfortable speculating about anyone’s pregnancy. H&M have made it clear that they were only going to have 2 kids.

      I think the brf and bm have played themselves. They’ve let the world know that they don’t want H&M and kids at the Clowning. Harry is going because he has a strong sense of duty and as a veteran I can’t see him appearing in any way being disrespectful to his Commander in Chief. I think Meghan and the kids staying at home just makes sense. They didn’t want any of them, so why go? Their security is too important to go to this sh!tstorm.

    • C says:

      Or we won’t, because it’s really none of our business.
      Personally I don’t think it’s anything big, as in, out of what the usual interactions between the Sussexes and the royals. It would have been a repeat of everything that stressed her about the Queen’s funeral with very little reason for her to do that given she cared about the Queen and doesn’t about Charles. So, yes, that combined with Archie’s birthday – I would have skipped it too.

    • Yikes says:

      Don’t be rude. Speculating on another woman’s uterus is vile and unnecessary.

    • windyriver says:

      It’s not a big mystery. Didn’t you yourself say yesterday one big factor was likely that overall security issues hadn’t been settled yet? I definitely think that’s a big part of it. Easier for Harry to do whatever he needs to do as quickly as possible without having to worry about the safety of his wife. And it’s her son’s birthday – where would she prefer to be on that day? Making it special for him, or attending an event with people she knows are almost certain to treat her badly and where the choice of date makes it clear even the person being “honored” doesn’t want to see her. Your additional speculation is unnecessary.

  39. ScorpioMoon says:

    These people are absolutely deranged. I think the Sussexes took their time because this was a tough decision; the fact that Charles scheduled it for their son’s birthday made it moreso, and I agree with other commenters who have suggested Charles did it intentionally, to force Harry into a situation where he’d have to “choose.”

    I think Harry and Meghan made this decision as a team and it’s probably the right one, because Harry does still care about his father. But it’s absolutely grotesque the way the British media is gleefully reporting on this now, as if it’s a sign that the Sussexes were “put in their place.” I read this as, a son decided to show up for his lousy father for his father’s literal crowning achievement in life; he understands more than most how important this is for Charles and he decided to be the bigger man. Reports suggesting it’s a sign that he’s soon going to leave Meghan and the kids, or that it’s all because he still wants royal prestige are such garbage. I hope this is the final time that Harry bothers publicly with these cretins.

  40. cabooklover says:

    I’m glad Harry isn’t participating in anything other than the crowning ceremony. The optics of the Chubbly are horrendous. You literally have British people on TikTok sharing budgeting and cost saving tips and tricks because they can’t afford to live and then you have King Dumbass over here throwing himself an extravagant party. Stay away, Harry!

  41. Cathey says:

    As someone who’s followed Meghan since suits it’s mind boggling to see the targeted hate and disinformation campaign against her.
    She’s had lots of joy but man it’s come at a high cost for her.
    Her life will truly never be the same even after she’s long gone. They’ll forever create storylines about her like they do Diana. But I just wonder will she atleast get a little break after this?
    Where’s the prophets, psychics, tarot people? The media campaign against her has been never ending and she’s not a musician or full time actress so the rabid fan base isn’t as large to support her.

    I used to think this hate campaign can’t be sustainable but I’m now not really sure. The right wing media and all British media always come up with something else to bash her with like they do with Kamala or Biden. Sigh!
    Help!

  42. Jaded says:

    I firmly believe that Sir Edward Young is behind many of the hurdles Harry has had to go through leading up to KFC’s clowning. As his private secretary, he’s intimately involved in the running of Charles’ office, as well as sitting on the board of RAVEC. It was Young who refused to pass on Harry’s request to pay for his and his family’s security to the other RAVEC members, and why they are now embroiled in legal action. He was also deeply involved in Sussexit and dead set against Harry and Meghan having any kind of half-in/half-out role to play. He’s a Machiavellian, shadowy, evil figure in all of this and has a LOT of power so it wouldn’t surprise me a bit that he’d be advising Charles on what Harry can/can’t do vis-a-vis the upcoming sh*t show. Charles is a weak, weak man — a dithering, petulant, self-obsessed twit whose wife and private secretary appear to have him by the balls.

    • Tessa says:

      Ultimately this is all on Charles. Charles wanted it this way.

    • HennyO says:

      Well, it was reported in the week after the queen has died, that Edward Young (the Bee) will be replaced as the monarch’s private secretary by Charles’s’ long-time private secretary Clive Alderton (the Wasp), in due course (it is believed that that will happen after the conAnation,) and that they both duo the position in the transitioning period. So, basically Charles has 2 high-payed private secretaries at the moment.

      Now, where will that leave Young, with all his power, after the conAnation? I think that, since he was a Charles’ plant is his mothers BP court, he will stick around in Charles court in another newly created powerful position. He knows too much to be completely axed.

  43. tamsin says:

    Charles is king, CIC, and Harry’s father. In going to the coronation, Harry is doing his duty to his country as a patriot, a veteran, and a son. As long as there is a monarchy, Harry is a prince of the kingdom, and his children are prince and princess. After forcing the palace to give his children their due by letters patent, he is also representing them. There is no need for Meghan to go and subject herself to the vileness of the BM and certain members of the royal family. The disgusting behavior of the BM and the palaces have taken the dignity and solemnity out of this ritual and reduced it to an exhibition of family dynamics and Charles pathetic need to be recognized.

    • MSTJ says:

      Just one correction to the great points you’ve highlighted. Harry did not force the palace to give his children their due by letters patent. The children automatically became Prince and Princess after Charles became King based on existing letters of patent issued by King George. A letters patent will be required to remove the titles but Charles did not ask parliament to issue letters patent to remove the titles. The Sussexes used the children’s titles when when they officially announced Lilibet’s christening. It has been reported that they stated they only plan to use the children’s titles for official announcements or occasions.

      • tamsin says:

        Sorry about the poor syntax. I meant what you’re saying in your correction. I should proofread more carefully too.

    • Tessa says:

      As his wife, Meghan is a princess and a duchess.

  44. Escape says:

    I think this is the best possible outcome. Meghan would be hurting her mental health surrounded by so many immature, petty people that have stupid issues with her and it also shines a light on how unimportant the clowning it. Yay Meghan.

    • Babz says:

      I just keep remembering the look of absolute terror on Meg’s face during the Windsor walkabout with the Wails. She knows exactly what’s being said about her, and I think she truly feared for her life that day, or, at the very least, being hounded and jeered at by the crowd. I also remember the young 14 year old girl who asked to hug her. Meg held on to that hug for dear life; in photos, her fingers were practically white as she hugged back.

      She knows exactly what was waiting for her if she were to go to the shiny hat party. The memories of that day in Windsor, and the snubs that followed, have to be still fresh in her mind. I believe that the walkabout day was when she decided, in her heart of hearts, that she was done. She set a boundary, and the result is Harry attending alone. That being said, if Harry had wanted her with him, she would have agreed, but he knows her and loves her enough to never put her in that position. That horrible family, and the British media, did their best to destroy her, and they will never get another such chance to try. We all saw what she looked like that day in Windsor. I hope we never see a repeat of that terrified woman, because that’s not Meg. Strong Meg is the one that just went toe to toe with the British monarchy and said no. That’s the icon we’ve come to know and love and respect. We want her and her babies safe and sound at home, away from all the madness surrounding that family.

  45. QuiteContrary says:

    LOL at Lacey’s reference to Harry’s “attack on the new queen” in “Spare.” As if Camilla wasn’t the most vile attack dog ever (my apologies to dogs).

    Camilla deserves to be forever excoriated for her treatment of Diana, her self-serving machinations and her friendships with garbage people like Jeremy Clarkson. And yet on May 6, the British people are supposed to accept her as their queen. Ugh.

    I think the continued bashing of Meghan is partly meant to distract from the fact that both Charles and Camilla suck and the royal reporters know it.

    • Lorelei says:

      Honestly. Camilla has been one of the most hated women in the world for as long as I can remember. Decades before Spare was published. But now these people are stuck with her as their “Queen” so we’re all supposed to pretend that Camilla is actually great. Such a joke. I genuinely feel sorry for anyone who has to curtsy to that bitch.

  46. ShedaPeta says:

    Is he not just going out to do a job? And fly back home once he completes his task?

  47. H3rH1ghn3ss says:

    Diana’s son’s Spare or Heir -should not have to bow or kiss Camillas hand. Its difficult to even imagine. Diana should rise from her grave! that’s how nuts this is..

  48. Katya says:

    What invitation?> I didn’t see any invitation nor did the Sussexes refer to one. I think Harry
    pre-emptively said to Charles’ staff “Cut the crap. I’ll come but only ALONE. No balcony, no other events and no press. Royal Protection Services from arrival to departure and I’m staying at Frogmore”.

    Even if #KingTampon came on the BBC and read it out loud in its entirety I wouldn’t believe Meghan was invited.

    • Babz says:

      You could be right. Let’s turn Lacey’s comments around, and I believe we have the scenario you painted. Harry’s demands were the ones you stated, and he won. Lacey, and the other rota rats are trying to save face for themselves and for Chuck, so they need to paint him as weak, as a loser in the negotiations. He doesn’t care about that damn balcony, or where he’s seated. He’s there to do his duty to King and country, and then he’s out. That said, I do have a little itchy anxiety in the back of my mind about the formal photos and if he will appear in them. That would be a bit much in my mind, but it has a remote possibility of happening.

  49. RoyalBlue says:

    It will forever be recorded in history that Charles II was a raging racist angry man, uncompromising in every way. A man who was content that the black side of the family was omitted from the coronation, but his beloved brother, slick evader of the FBI, who must have simply made several mistakes in life, would be warmly welcomed and protected.

  50. AC says:

    When the British media insulted Biden’s age, no one in the US , not even the White House, cared what they think. With that, a lot of us over here saw it as a sign that the BP is literally IRRELEVANT. I remembered a post a few months ago either on Twitter or somewhere mentioning how Brits really don’t like Americans. And an American response to that: “We don’t care what they think.” .LOL.. Same thing with this. All I see is that Harry made his decision to support his father and country , And Meghan being a supportive wife as she is, is OK with it. Even though she knows she’s not wanted there. As I mentioned yesterday, it shows how she has better morals and values than any of these people across the pond.

    • Katya says:

      ITAWY but also I think it isn’t just the British media. The whole of teh UK is being pulled down and not just by the Royal fiascos. It is just a wee scummy island now of little importance and getting more irrelevant as I type.

    • Tessa says:

      I would not say she is not wanted there by everybody. It is such a bad look in this day and age to shun somebody that way. Charles is a lost cause and he is very ignorant and cruel

    • Tessa says:

      It is their loss not hers
      That family wants harry back as scapegoat

  51. Looking at the photos above I can understand why photographers are drawn to Meghan. She’s very photogenic and has perfect body posture. Now these photographers are left to the old-looking and hunched princess.