Note: this is a second version of a story I covered earlier, about Princess Kate “resenting” Meghan. Some backstory: on the day QEII died, King Charles called Prince Harry. The conversation likely took place a short time after the Sussexes confirmed that they would travel to Balmoral, which is where (at the time) QEII was barely hanging on. Instead of keeping Harry informed about his beloved grandmother, Charles used that moment to insult and disrespect Meghan and tell Harry not to “bring her” to Balmoral. We knew that in the hours after QEII’s passing, because the Windsors openly and gleefully briefed the media about how Charles’s first act as king was banning his Black daughter-in-law from Balmoral. Harry also addressed that moment in Spare, and he basically confirmed exactly how disgusting it was that Charles used that moment to denigrate Meghan and order her not to come.
What was interesting about the whole debacle was that Kate, the soon-to-be Princess of Wales, was never flying up to Balmoral with her husband. It was one of her kids’ first days of a new school, and she had to pick them up. That would have been my excuse, if I worked for royal comms – lean into the motherhood-above-all-else thing. Instead, they made it sound like of course Kate never would have been invited, because she “knows her place” unlike Meghan. Well, to continue with that bizarre narrative, both Russell Myers and Robert Jobson are now leaning into this idea that Charles asked Kate to stay away from Balmoral as a way to keep Meghan away too…??
Royal Editor Russell Myers says Meghan Markle was asked to steer clear of the late Queen Elizabeth II amid “upset and upheaval” within the royal family over the couple’s lucrative media deals. Mr Myers was responding to claims King Charles had “struck a deal” with Princess Kate that she keep Meghan away from the Queen’s bedside to avoid upset in the monarch’s final moments.
Royal expert Robert Jobson had earlier told the Daily Telegraph of the steps King Charles took to ensure the former actress was not around amid the Queen’s ill health.
“Privately, he wanted to say Meghan was not welcome but he couldn’t say that to Harry so he personally intervened and asked Kate to stay back so that it was fairer on Meghan,” Mr Jobson said. Speaking to Royal Report host Caroline Di Russo, Mr Myers said while he wouldn’t use the words “strike a deal” there was a lot of anxiety surrounding Harry and Meghan’s return for the late monarch’s funeral.
“William and Kate’s children had just started a new school, had just move to Windsor from London, so obviously a very unsettling time for the whole family. And after the late Queen’s passing you of course could understand the sort of anxiousness around the family that Harry and Meghan would fly back. During that period of time we had a lot of upset and upheaval within the royal family to do with Harry and Meghan – the Oprah interview, the possibility of Harry writing his book at that stage and a Netflix interview on the cards.”
Mr Myers said there were conversations between Harry and Charles about Meghan but Princess Kate’s choice to stay back was more likely “a family decision”.
“Whenever Harry and Meghan were in and around the royal family it was becoming a bit of an issue so those conversations really took place between Harry and his father,” he said. “For Kate to stay away and look after her children was probably more of a family decision to work out what’s best for the overall feeling of the family at that time.”
This continues to be utterly bizarre, the haphazard, months-long debate about why Kate didn’t fly to Balmoral that day. It’s always been so puzzling to me, because “the cover story” made perfect sense at the time: of course Kate wanted to be in Windsor to pick up the kids from their first week at school, and of course she wanted to be the one to tell them about QEII’s passing too. Why wasn’t that explanation ever good enough? Why did it become “Charles ordered Kate to stay back as some kind of excuse to ban Meghan.” I’ve also never understood why Charles and the rest of the family was so f–king nasty about Meghan simply wanting to physically be with Harry on the day his grandmother died. Like, this was how Charles wanted to start his reign: banning his son’s Black wife from Balmoral because Harry must grieve alone?
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Karen Kate is the sort of person the royal family want. She is also stepford and lazy.
Can we let “Karen” as an insult die? As far as I’m aware, none of the racist women who called the police on Black people for existing have even been named Karen, so why turn a lovely women’s name into an insult? Is Kate not bad enough on her own? Are there not enough names we’ve all made up for her?
– Karen’s daughter
The woman who called police falsely claiming she was threatened by a Black man in Central Park is named Karen. He asked her to leash her dog, as was required by NYC regs in the protected area for birds. The dog was unleashed, unsupervised, disturbing the birds, and Karen made a false accusation. The man did nothing wrong. Someone filmed the encounter. Look on YouTube & stop whinging
The Central Park woman’s name was AMY.
@ April- You;’re right – sorry. The Karen meme evidently came from the 2004 movie “Mean Girls” and was later perpetuated by Dane
Cook et al in comedy routines. It’s been around then for nearly 20n years.
It’s fine. If someone is not a “Karen” even if they’re named Karen they’ll get over it.
Signed,
Becky
It would be a kinder gentler world if all of us humans could get over labelling each other with shorthand mean spirited memes which are meant to dehumanize. No one likes to be so labelled, doesn’t matter who they are. “They did it first” is a childish excuse.
I absolutely LOVE the labelling of the bossy, bigoted women as either Karens or Beckys. They need a label and they need to be shut up. Nothing better to make someone realize they are very much in the wrong then making fun of them so they feel the shame (they should have felt in the first place). Sorry Betsy but it is firmly entrenched in our culture and to come on this forum and get all huffy about it just shows you might have your own Karen tendencies.
If you or your mother aren’t a bossy, nosy, bigot then it’s not about you…just move on.
@Abolish the Monarchy.
This commentariat prides itself on being open minded, thoughtful and sensible. It’s not “firmly entrenched,” I didn’t get huffy, I asked politely and making a polite request isn’t being a bossy, nosy bigot.
My personal quip about this lie or story is that yes it true KC3 did not want Meghan there… But, the more likely scenario is that Willie did not want Katie there, either. For one Willie is a famewhore. The other reason is he does not love or respect her as his wife or mother of his children. So why would Willie allow her there for a historical, momentous event, that will probably be written about and scrutinized made into movies/plays in the centuries ahead.
@ theRobinsons, that actually makes sense. Bullyiam certainly doesn’t hide the fact that he can’t stand being in the same room with Keen, yet alone having to attend events with her. KFC and Bullyiam only think about themselves and no one else, Cruella is the exception of course.
For me, the key takeaway is that the royal family is now admitting that King C told Kate not to come. She was not wanted.
These people have to live with each other, going forward, and Meghan is blessedly out of it. Their problems have nothing to do with her.
Charles started his rein with a racist act upon Meghan, his DIL, whom we consider as ‘not family’ to come to salute his dying mother.
Then, a few days later, he twice showed the nation in public his abusive attitude towards his staff (pengate).
The UK is about to crown a man incapable of showing love to, or to bond his family together in grief, but more importantly, is unfit for Kingship.
Good luck peeps, enjoy your ConANation.
The precedent for Harry grieving alone was set the day Diana died, also by Charles.
Yes Sarita, this was the saddest think to read. How do you leave a 12 year-old child alone after telling him his mother has died. Being the child’s father no less. Horrible, unfeeling man.
Throw in the fact the Queen, his granny, was in the same building too and didn’t check on him. If she had he would have written about it. Cold heartless people that family.
So disgusting. Wake a child up in the night to tell him his mother is dead; pat him on the knee, and leave him alone in the dark until 10am. It is just psychopathic behaviour.
@ Sarita, you are spot on!! KFC has been an unloving, uncaring, and utterly disgusting father for Harry’s entire life. This is just a continuation of his behaviour. To add salt to Harry’s grief, they didn’t wait for Harry to join them on the flight up to Balmoral as well.
How cruel KFC must be that he is showing the public how unfit he is as a father??
Not to defend Chuckles here, but he learned how to be an unloving uncaring horrible parent from his own unloving uncaring horrible mother. She doesn’t get nearly enough grief for that. This stuff doesn’t happen in a vacuum.
Charles behaved that way he never takes ownership of his own choices and blamed his parents, his ex wife etc. Charles used a much younger woman to have his heirs marrying her in a very cynical way
He had enablers like his grandmother. Charles not his mother is responsible . Charles blamed s other people for his own choices
Yes Charlie’s not got a good track record with family, moaned in print how his mother didn’t love him, did the dirt to his young wife then helped put her into an early grave and drove his son, daughter in law and their children away for good while paying to protect his brother who paid off his rape/trafficking accuser.
Now that’s a legacy. No way he could be stopped using H&M in that photo pretending all the above hasn’t happened? Hope you’re proud Clown.
There was a brief period of time when I liked Charles – Harry’s radio interview of Charles, his walking Meghan down the aisle, kindness to her mom that day. But man, what a meanhearted guy he is. Yuck.
I hate to blame a woman for a mans actions but I honestly feel like Camilla got into his head. Like she saw meghan and charles got on well and was somehow afraid to have to share him or something. So she started playing onto charles’ insecure side, and we all know he has one.
I don’t usually blame women for the actions undertaken by the men in their lives, and the weak raw material in Charles is here for Camilla to work with but I do see a lot of Camilla’s machinations here.
I think Willi and Kate played a big part in it as well. And I do believe Charly also got jealous. They all started hating her because they are all jealous and pathetic. No expection.
@Chloe: YEES!! I was looking for the missing piece of the jigsaw, but couldn’t find it. You’ve absolutely nailed it. Camilla has navigated through life alienating Charles – her property – from every single woman of poise and ambition.
Chuck initially didn’t fake his enjoyment of Meghan’s company, but that was short-lived owing to the then Consort-to-be’s sneaky intervention. Camilla was in awe of and threatened by the Duchess of Sussex’s intelligence. The younger rival had to be killed – symbolically, this time around.
Let’s not blame a woman for what a powerful man does. C’mon, Charles is in his 70s. He does what he likes.
This is my theory as well. Not at all exonerating Charles since weak people can be incredibly cruel (like Charles), but Camilla is the unseen hand behind alienating Charles from his children, and Meghan. From Spare, it is apparent that Charles really liked Meghan and enjoyed her company, then without explanation, he suddenly hates her. No one says she did anything to Charles, so the logical conclusion is that someone got in his ear and told him lies that he believed. Who could that be except the people closest to him?
@Sue E Generis – what Meghan did was, appear to be more popular and admired than Charles. In this case, no one had to tell him any lies to change his opinion, because Charles is incredibly jealous of anyone who outshines him (see: Diana). As Harry said in Spare, “oh, how he loves to be loved”. And yes, I’m sure it’s Camilla busy manipulating him quietly to her advantage BTS.
I’m with you, Duch. I was starting to develop a soft spot for the guy, and he went and ruined it.
The man can’t help but self-sabotage. I’ve never seen anything like it.
I had to talk with a heartbroken young woman at work about how guys who say family is most important are usually wonderful, but sometimes it’s a red flag. Toxic people can just constantly redefine who’s family and thus justify treating “non-family” like garbage. And be proud of themselves for it.
I’ve heard it on this site as well as from various media figures that K. Charles is not too bright. But this incident as well as the Frogmore thing has convinced me that there must be truth in that. KC, William and Kate (and probably some in their employee) are not only without an ounce of nobility, a moral compas or strength but are a whole chandelier of dim bulbs.
It’s kind of hard to see past the ill-treatment of Diana and his indirect responsibility for her death.
Regarding Diana, everything that happened in Paris was done according to Philip’s and Charles’ request. Their DIRECT involvement has been vastly documented in investigative journalism and books.
Charles is emotionally stunted. So glad his youngest child (maybe even both of his children) are warmer parents.
Charles is selfish and ego centric and has a cruel streak.
BRF with courtiers’ and tabloid media’s ENTHUSIASTIC assistance conspired to mess with Thomas Markle so that he would embarrass and hurt Meghan at the wedding.
Then at the 11th hour someone pointed out that this was going to make the BRF look bad, or perhaps it was planned this way all along – that the sabotage was meant to create an opening where Charles could swoop in and do his White Saviour schtick.
One thing to remember about the history between Harry and his father: Chucky has a long history of liking to set up Harry as a failure in the press so that he can sweep in and pull his savior routine. Recall the Bolland years incident with the scheduled visit to a rehab center which Charles tried to turn into a “Scaring Harry Straight” moment by dragging young Harry along. Meanwhile Camilla’s son and/or his own friend circle was likely providing Prince Incandescent enough snow to start a ski resort. Harry didn’t start Club H in the basement of Highgrove; William did. That’s when most of us cottoned on to the fact that Charles was willing to use his youngest son as a bait and distraction for his heir.
Yeah Kate pissed someone off behind the scenes, lol. Well Kate, these people are literally throwing you under the bus and are purposefully positioning you as one of the people to blame for this mess. For years, we’ve heard it been the brothers and not the wives. Someone is trying to make it known that Kate isn’t innocent here. This is a mess.
Yes it’s King Camilla calling the shots. Seems that Can’t will be the buses target. Is King Cowmilla helping Peg or will she do him in too. Stay tuned for the next episode of Dark Sources.
I think this is also partly pay back from Cams to kHate and Ma for all the years they put out stories about how kHate would be a better QC and that the line of succession should just skip her and Chuck.
Whatever the reason its becoming clear that someone is out to completely trash kHate’s image and reputation.
@digitalunicorn
I’ve been wondering about all those “William should be the next king” and “Queen in training” stories. It’s honestly so jarring to me to have been fed the queen in training stories about Kate for a decade and then to have Queen Camilla’s smirking victory lap throw a huge bucket of ice water on that whole message. I would think Charles and Cam would find those stories totally obnoxious and I imagine Camilla having a good laugh about squashing that particular delusion. And she does seem to be determinedly going after the Wales’ now.
I honestly think Camilla might be one of the most savvy and intelligent political operatives in the family, though she uses her powers entirely for evil. She’s really been biding her time and counting her grudges for decades.
Ah its all coming together now, Charles is mad because, Meghan did a preemptive strike by not coming to the coronation where she will most likely be disrespected, but instead of the the BRF to take this on the Chin they are pushubf out stories of Kates resentment towards Meghan because Charles banned her from going to Balmoral. so the kids are getting blamed for something Charles did to himself ! whats a basket case !
Just goes to show that when push comes to shove kate is the next person to be sacrificed at the hands of the press. Because none of these stories make her look good and the press is successfully distracting everyone that Camilla, probably one of the most hated figures around the world, is about to be the new queen.
Queen Sidepiece is the one behind all the articles. She drags people down so she can elevate herself.
I’m sure they were ready with the opposite barrage: How dare she show up! We said we would freeze her out. We said she’d have to go to the back!
I don’t get these people, they love to claim they refuse to say anything to and around Harry and Meghan because “Netflix, Spotify,” blah blah blah. Yet, they’re the ones leaking this information to the tabloids. They’re the ones briefing that Harry and his father had a conversation prior to accepting the coronation invitation… do they not see what they’re doing? The only difference is Meghan and Harry aren’t afraid to say what they have to say themselves instead of hiding behind mouthpieces.
Harry and Meghan’s Netflix documentary had already wrapped 9-10 months prior to Elizabeth’s death and Meghan never spoke about those people on her podcast, no matter how badly the Rats wanted her to.
@Ash … I agree with everything you’ve said and I also don’t understand this bit: ” … there was a lot of anxiety surrounding Harry and Meghan’s return for the late monarch’s funeral.”
What I find strange about this is that Harry and Meghan were already at Frogmore in Windsor when the Queen passed (and by ‘Queen’ I certainly do not mean Camilla). They’d been there for 2 or 3 days and were preparing for their last event when news of the Queen’s passing broke on the news. Harry and Meghan didn’t have to ‘return’ or ‘come over’ for the funeral.
I will stand by my belief that Charles knew that Liz was dying and that Charles happily had them in the country (agreements behind the scenes) just so H&M would both be at the funeral despite their pre-made child care arrangements back home.
I believe this is one of the many reasons Meghan said NO WAY this time. She was effectively held hostage and forced to stay in the UK and partake in the circus because leaving at such a time would have invited even more vitriol.
That engagements with Meghan, Harry, Kate and William is brutal to watch. Meghan looks like a Deer in the headlights and Kate being her usual predatory mean girl self took pleasure in victimising Meghan at her one of her lowest points.
Fast forward to the picture of H&M in the car after the funeral and I really have to question how the Rota Rats ever thought she was coming back.
The good sis Meghan has PTSD from this evil flucked up backwards Island.
Now they’re all reeling at the loss of a major pay-day or pay-days and I love that for them.
Charles will go down as an abject failure of a King consigned to the footnotes of the history of Princess Diana.
I think she was already dead, when the various media sources showed up with black ties, and I’m a U.S. citizen. We then got a breaking news banner on CNN that QEII had taken a “turn”. It was a few hours before they said she was dead, but come on. Everyone on tv in England was already in a black tie. They knew, and we knew.
Listen, it’s not shocking that she died before they told us she was dead. Any normal family would be uninterested in briefing the public, and I assumed the Windsors were no different. Until the bullshit with Harry and Meghan started.
I think she died in the middle of the night, with Anne by her side. I am an only daughter, this is what daughters do. Of course her son fucked off to pick mushrooms and commune with nature, anything to avoid being ACTUALLY present.
The fact that MEGHAN is being thrust to the forefront (AGAIN) as THE PROBLEM, when the fucking queen was dead…yeah. Peace be with you, Commonwealth.
Agreed. They claim they don’t want to talk to Harry/Meghan because they don’t want those conversations repeated, reflecting badly on them. How about stop saying and doing things that are despicable? They can’t “leak” anything nasty if the BRF didn’t DO or SAY anything nasty! Like, be good people. Then when anyone talks about you, they’ll have nice things to say. Don’t say out loud something shty, if you don’t want it known that you said something shty!
Kate wasn’t there because in reality she was never close to the queen and william didn’t want her there. The end.
This.
The Windsors were concerned about what Harry might write in his book, so Charles…did something that guaran-fucking-teed Harry would write about it.
Yeah, that tracks with this family’s very peculiar strain of “logic”.
None of this makes sense. On the BBC news that morning William was seen alone at the airport on the way to Balmoral, he was not in Winsdor but London l think. Then, the BBC said late morning that the Queen was not doing well, the family where coming with Megan and Harry on the way, l think they where coming from.Germany. Kate was never mentioned, keep i mind that brilliant snub to the Cambridges from the Queen on the steps of Windsor,lol. William was goin solo. Then something changed. I think Kate went nuts that Megan was going , then Charles used this to say no Megan. Harry’s Aunt Anne was there to greet Harry when he arrived. No.Charles. Keep note if it wasn’t for Charles bad behaviour would Harry’s mother still be here.with us ???? Probably……he is an awful, egotistical self serving man who will probably die alone.
But something is happening back stage, l thought Kate last week was getting the blame for the Sussex departure.and Megan not coming , then this article which again makes Charles look.like a asshole and anti Megan ??
It’s true. A decision was made that Kate was not going. Then someone made sure that Meghan not be allowed to go either, after the Sussexes had confirmed both she and Harry were on their way. KATE is clearly the sticking point and someone’s trying to change that narrative, PDQ.
It is as if that everyone involved with the end result of the Sussexes leaving that toxic environment want to extricate themselves by pointing to some one else.
Charles was probably out looking for mushrooms in the woods when Harry got there.
To be fair, if I had to deal with this family, I might be trying to score some ‘shrooms myself…
Any bets when the announcement of the Waleses’ separation going to be? And willit be announced in Parliament like like Chuck and Di?
This would be the only reason I would turn into the corona19tion–if it’s announced William and Kate are going to announce that day that they’re separating.
I think they’re going to take their time and lob a few more grenades at the hapless Princess of Wales before going in for the final coup de grace.
Why do people keep jumping on this narrative when there is no evidence that anything is happening.. Kate is still protected. They are literally rushing out Myers to do damage control and say it had more to do with family instead of what Jobson said.
They did the same with Tom bower.
This woman isn’t going anywhere..there’s already precedent for that when you look at Phillip and his mistress.
They are not going to ruin their perfect family imagine when they can do whatever they want in secret and no one will talk about it.
Agree with you. Work shy Willy and Kharriet Tubman have hyper levels of jealousy against M&H in common.
Both know they are mediocre human beings and have achieved nothing so are a perfect match.
KATE is rushing out Myers to try to protect herself. Jobson was fed this specific story from someone – my guess is Camilla.
I think it won’t be announced soon. They have to let the furor against the Con-A-Thon die down first. They’ll continue the private separation, Kate/Carol(E) leaking their hearts out against it while Charles/Camilla/William work to keep leaking against her. A delay in the POW investiture until after an official divorce.
William is never getting that investiture imo. In recent history only Edward VIII and Charles himself had one. It’s not steeped in royal tradition and can easily be dropped. Especially with feelings against it in wales.
They won’t split unless Willy finds a replacement he adores, which is unlikely. He’s not built for devotion. There’s no limit to the abuse Kate, encouraged by Ma Mid, will tolerate in order to get to the Big Throne. If she makes leaving noises, Chuck will toss her big bribes. I predict she’ll try to squeeze out extra goodies from Chuck-less. Wills might ditch her if/after he makes it to King.
Petulant Bill has an enormous ego. The more Kate embarrasses him on the world stage, the more he wants to set her aside. Whether or not he’s looking for someone to love? He’s looking for someone to compete with Meghan.
@Notasugarhere, you got something! 💯🎯
He won’t replace #KarrietTubman until he can find someone who he believes can compete with Meghan. Harry must not be seen as having a more gorgeous, accomplished wife and a happier marriage. Peg knows he’s coming in second in that regard. It keeps him up at night. And the fact that Meghan is biracial eats at him big time.
So one thing I’ve thought about. Wouldn’t it serve Camilla to have Kate around? She can throw her under the bus and that way William will never have a possibly glamorous partner that could compete more than Kate. Not sure William could get that anyways. But either way, these stories make Kate look bad imo. Maybe it’s a prelude to an ousting. Could see that. But for right now, it just seems like she’s fair game so people don’t talk ish bout the others.
I think Camilla right now is so bitter over being “the other woman” and being maligned for having an affair with the prince of wales (there was more to it than that, but lets just go with that as a threshold matter) that it probably drives her mad that William is also having affairs and no one will talk about it. I think she would love to destroy their perfect family image.
I can totally see that becks1. But it just seems like one of those short-sighted be careful what you wish for things. Unless Camilla is friends with the side-piece or has one lined up she can control. Otherwise, she could end up with someone who won’t be as easily taken down as Kate. Again, this is all assuming William could or would have someone else who actually wants anything to do with this family. But yeah just having it known that William is a cheater might be enough, regardless of whether he and Kate stay together. Just saying Camilla might be getting too cocky. If she is in fact the one behind some of these stories.
Actually it is not what Charles wanted but who would the dying Queen Elizabeth wanted to be at her bedside for the final goodbye.
To all accounts the late Queen said Meghan and Harry were much loved members of the royal family and she was proud how quickly Meghan became part of the family.
Meghan and Kate should have been allowed to say their final goodbye to the late Queen. Charles and William should have put aside all politics and ill feelings in tending to the dying Queen. For William leaving Harry behind in the RAF flight to Scotland was also mean-spirited.
William didn’t want Kate there, so he told her not to come, then insisted Meghan not be allowed either. But since he’s too statesmanly to speak to his brother and ban his brother’s wife with his whole chest, he goes behind his back and asks the now king to do it. Kate, you in danger, gurl. And William, you a coward, gurl.
LOL, sorry I posted practically this same point verbatim before seeing your comment! Yes. Bulliam’s sticky fingerprints are all over this, still, I’m inclined to think CIII and the Consort are behind all these articles that make the Wailses look awful.
this is exactly what I think happened and that’s why I think we’re getting so many versions of it now. The RRS know this is what happened, they know William and Kate are separated and she wasn’t going to Balmoral, so this is all just tap dancing around the “why.” She knew it was better for the family, she couldn’t make it because of the school run, she stayed behind so Meghan could be cut out too (BS, Kate would have LOOOOOOOVED to have been there with Meghan staying in Windsor), etc.
The real story is that William didn’t want her there so she stayed behind and then Meghan had to stay behind as well. Maybe Charles would have asked M to stay behind regardless of whether Kate was going – we don’t know. Like I said in the other post I don’t think Charles was bothered by asking M to stay back. But no way could M have gone without Kate there too.
It was pretty clear he didn’t want her there but when the media had announced Harry and Meghan were heading to Balmoral together that’s when things got messy. They knew it would look bad for Kate to stay back, so the school run was used as an excuse (despite the news being out in the late afternoon UK time and the school day basically done).
Exactly this. People always forget about the actual timing – it was fully afternoon in the UK. I still maintain that there’s absolutely zero way they would have left George and Charlotte at school to potentially hear about the Queen’s passing from teachers or students. They absolutely would have pulled them out of school early (if it was even necessary; there’s a good chance the school day was already over anyway). This excuse has never, ever made sense. Kate had plenty of time to pick the children up, tell them the news, explain that she had to be by Will’s side (lol), set them up with grandma Carole and be on her way. This has always been about Will telling Kate to stay home, and them making Meghan stay home because of it.
THATSNOTOKAY, LOL!!!
William also barred her from the Diana statue unveiling, so she’d be off limits at Balmoral too. Kate is being cut out of significant events where her absence can be explained in their dithering way.
I think that’s exactly what happened. I think Willie told Kate to stay home, cos he doesn’t really want to see her, but also he knew she would get camilla Tominey to write a dozen stories about how she ‘held the queens hand as she was dying’ etc. we know Kate has no shame especially when it comes to exploiting dead people for her personal gain.
These people are not normal and it’s mind-boggling to see the press twist themselves in knots to try to explain away the fact the Royal Family are just nasty people who used the death of the Queen to score petty points against Harry and Meghan.
I’m still dying to know what horrible things Charles said about Meghan that prompted Harry to reply,”Don’t ever speak about my wife that way!” It was apparently so terrible that Harry didn’t put it in the book. This is how Charles was spending his mother’s last hours on earth.
Considering that Charles reads the tabloids, I’d think anything she’s ever been called in one of those would be fair game. That’s the thing. If Charles had just said Kate’s not coming and so it wouldn’t be fair for Meghan to also come, that would still be shitty but that’s not even what Charles did. He talked ish about her on the phone while his mom was dying. That’s how he spent his time.
Harry grieving alone after the Queens death is Chuck book ending how he left Harry alone after the death of Diana.
Aawwwww! Chuck remembered.
Each new spin makes them look worse. When did this alleged convo take place? And “privately?” C-Rex publicly made it known that Meghan wasn’t welcome.
His mother had just died but instead of being beset with shock and grief, C-Rex was busy ramping up the petty to 11. His obsession with punishing the Sussexes is almost as great as his obsession with the side piece queen. He’d better enjoy his ClownFest bc it’s going to be devastating for him when he looks at the “family” and reality really hits him that he’s not popular or beloved by the family nor the populace. I also think FreeWilly is going to start fighting dirty. I need to buy more popcorn…
This is the first time in years where Kate is coming off looking horrible in articles.
She did around the Oprah interview for lying about crying but there was so much else to focus on that people kinda forgot.
But this time there’s no other distractions and yeah these articles make her look terrible!! Good for her! Don’t care and won’t waste my time on my social media talking about her either.
I hope she gets more than a thousand fold for what she did to Meghan.
Even after the Oprah interview, the press was still holding water for her. Maybe both women cried etc. This is def diff.
Harry literally told us what happened. They’d said publicly they were travelling to Scotland and then Charles called him and said “you can’t bring HER” and some other stuff Harry wouldn’t print and he told his father to never speak about his wife like that.
Then Harry was not invited on the private plane with the rest of the kids and William, and I honestly don’t think Kate was ever a factor.
Why they are re-hashing this now is beyond me, they just make the family look bad. Isn’t there anything good they’ve done that can be talked about instead? Anything, anything at all? Oh right, that’s all boring as shit and nobody reads about it.
That was the way it unfolded, but Kate was the one who delightfully informed the fail and telegraph that Meghan was not allowed to be at Balmoral. The fail published the exclusive with a pic driving around with pearl earrings and sunglasses of what seem at night.
Funny that she never gets papped taking the kids to school unless she WANTS to be papped doing the school run. Yet people continue to claim poor Keen is more harassed by paps than Meghan. Some day Tanna will write his book about his connection to the Midds and all he did for them. I hope that day comes sooner rather than later.
The Pearl earrings photo in the car wasn’t taken the day the queen died. That was a few days after. There are no photos of kate picking up the kids that day because the paps wouldn’t have been allowed on site.
Also it’s very likely the kids were back from school by the time the public announcement of the queen’s rapidly declining health was made.
Notasugarhere Kate doesn’t even do the school run. It’s a straight up lie. I’ve seen pics George and Charlotte being taken to school in 3 huge Range Rovers filled with security in tow. It would be a huge security issue if she did drop them off everyday. She only does the school run when she’s arranged to be photographed doing so.
Um, Harry & Meghan were never going to “fly back,” they were in country already. These morons spin and twist the truth so constantly they can’t get the slightest facts/ details straight. I’m firmly on board with the version that Bulliam told KKKHate nope and also told CIII that Meghan wasn’t allowed either because it would look bad if she came and KKKHate didn’t, and also to inflict pain on Harry. He’s truly the shittiest brother, son, husband (can father be far behind?) ever. And he does it all in plain sight because he’s also an idiot.
Pegs must have really not wanted Kate there. The smart way to do this was to let both Meghan & kate go to Balmoral. They could’ve waited in another room while the fam stayed with the queen. But Chuck can’t manage his family drama.
This is the reason, another item that was included at that time .
Charles, Camilla and William stayed at Charles’s estate. They were not with the rest of the family who was at Balmoral.
At that time the words ‘blood relatives’ were being thrown around by at least Dan Wootton.
The “family” arrived after QE passed. Only Anne was there. Chuck was reportedly out foraging for mushrooms & the others got there after the passing.
The point being ??
Meghan and Harry could have been at Balmoral, they wouldn’t have around the three senior royals.
The reason she was not included is they were hoping that they’ve influenced a vulnerable him negatively towards his marriage.
If you go looking for this story at the library you will find it in the fiction section.
From the land of make believe here we go again with the tabloid press whitewashing Kate Middleton. Kate wants to be front and centre of everything. Look at her picking her spot on the balcony at the Jubbly and not budging when William told her to move. She wanted to be in all the photos of the Queen. Same at Philip’s funeral. There are countless other examples. This was William not wanting Kate to make it about her. Unfortunately Charles messed up here when he phoned Harry. Perhaps if he had spoken the truth to Harry that Meghan couldn’t be there because Kate wasn’t as they wanted it to be about The Queen and not Kate. But being a typical male, he didn’t. Remember that William didn’t want Kate at the unveiling of Diana’s statute either? I’ll give Charles some grace as his mother was in her last hours, but he needs to learn to talk to his youngest son.
As for Kate HAVING to pick up the kids from school? Yeah, right! I really doubt she does the school run every day. They have security, the bodyguards could have picked them up! Or Nanny Maria could have done the school run.
So the question is… why bring this up now? Are they trying to emphasise the image of Kate as this good mother only thinking of her kids? How many times are they going to try and rewrite history when it comes to Kate Middleton? It all comes over as trying way too hard. This piece must have come from CarolE PR? Now Party Pieces is on its last legs CarolE must realise that they need to keep Kate front and centre on the balcony.
It’s just sad that Meghan has been caught up in these stories as I’m sure Harry could have done with her being there.
Cathy, I agree with you 100%. Charles and William didn’t want this to turn into the “Kate show” with endless briefings to the press about how she was the one who “single-handedly held the family together during this difficult time”. And if Meghan would’ve come to support Harry, it would’ve made it all the more obvious that the very buttons that hold the family together have come undone! I think that Charles was too busy gathering his pens to react appropriately or to prioritize the optics of this and now they all look terrible! They always show their hand when trying to be nasty to Meghan!
Yet again, I must commend Camilla on her craft. It’s basic yet brilliant when it comes to the Karen of Kensington! Kate spent most of last year talking about how she was the savior of the palace, had her drunk uncle talking her up on specials and called it a day. Camilla then comes in and sweeps it all away with a couple calls to her favorite rota members. Kate really has no defense both because she’s lazy, and she couldn’t even pretend to like her black sister in law when it mattered most (i.e. the 2019 commonwealth service, queens funeral etc…)
Camilla is no better than Kate in the way she treated meghan
It it feels like the UK MEDIA is in conversation with Common Sense, and they are too dull and or evil to be chastened by being exposed to it.
I fail to see what the end game of this story is. Is it really so simple as Jobson wanting to boost sales of his book? Did he make this up? I could see him doing that.
If not, I don’t think any of the RF benefit from this story being made public, but apparently at least one of them thinks it helps them. Someone please help me understand.
I don’t think Jobsen is lying. Someone from one of the palaces gave him this info. The question is who and why.
This furthers my conviction that Meghan was NEVER going back to the UK after the awful way she was treated when the queen died, and the RSVP discussions were actually Chuck attempting to bribe her to come.
With duelling stories from Charles / Camilla v Kate about this trip to Balmoral, it really is interesting to see that Kate is being targeted right now.
Only two things to say about this dross is, ONE, Harry and Megan didn’t have to “FLY” back from anywhere for the funeral, they were in the UK when the Queen died and stayed until the funeral and TWO, christ this family makes the Borgias look like the Waltons
Lionel Richie and Edward the British vogue guy, should really stop and think long and hard about what they are doing when getting in bed in whatever shape or form with these kkk Windsors . Infact people or color should really wake the heck up. The commonwealth is predominantly black and this is the kind of message these people want out there about themselves?
I pray as long as Meghan lives , that she never has to share space with these trash ass people. Your own mother and grandmother and grandmother in law is dying and you can’t find one pinch of dignity and good manners and act right? Like how are these people not seeing how this makes them look to the world outside the British media?
Jobson told the Daily Telegraph of the steps King Charles took to ensure that Meghan was not around as the queen died.
“Privately, he wanted to say Meghan was not welcome but he couldn’t say that to Harry …”
How in the hell is this supposed to make Charles look good? The head of the Commonwealth wanted to say openly that the biracial duchess wasn’t welcome at Balmoral????
I don’t really care if the ulterior motive was keeping Kate away. The disrespect is just galling, as is the expectation that people will approve of Charles’ desire to keep Meghan apart from her grieving husband. UGH. These people are the effing worst.
What’s interesting about this is that it makes KFC look bad. It was his idea to keep Meghan away from Balmoral. That’s what Harry wrote in Spare. Why are they doubling down on this? It shows that Wails just did what KFC wanted. I don’t know who is behind these leaks, or if Jobson is getting some hits in for some reason.
Well, good job. Now we’re all reminded what kind of person KFC is. The question is why?
The world now knows that Meghan made the right decision to stay far away from this disaster in the making. My fervent hope is that Harry is barely seen before and after the Clowning. Let the crowds boo at KFC and his Escort. And, if they want to boo at WanK all the merrier.
“… was probably more of a family decision to work out what’s best for the overall feeling of the family…”
Sounds like a mob family.
If this story is true, then Charles punishes Meghan for decisions Harry makes. So are they telling us Charles is racist, or misogynistic? Or, are they telling us he’s both?
I’ve always thought Kate didn’t go because megan couldn’t go. I thought she was making it easier on the family. I never bought that story of -picking up the kids. She doesn’t even know those kids. Lol. But the “helping hand” doesn’t make much sense. Megan is new and Kate has known the queen for like 20 years.
Maybe Kate did decided to be a martyrs. It’s possible. I think the better answer is megan couldn’t go because of the Netflix series. Which is the perfect excuse to ban Kate as well. I guess Camilla wasn’t allowed in the room. Let’s face it you can make a case for a lot of people not being in the room. If you are the queen and you are dying, even if you like Fergie do you want to be reminded that she introduced ghaislaine Maxwell to your son??? Kate either didn’t want to be around death or William told her to back off.
Megan probably wasn’t invite for a host of reason. But we have to think back to that time. The press was saying that megan was walking around with listening devices. Harry is the grandson so he has to come. As a warning to others megan couldn’t go.
Kate or whoever is dragging this back up to counteract these racism claims. What I don’t understand is why do they care? Well someone is briefing against Kate so they are doing this damage control. Or the press is making it up.
Harry is the grandson but excluding his wife is wrong on so,many levels.
Kate not flying up due to it being the first day of school for her children in a new place was never totally logical: she could have taken the children out of school and let them be with a nanny close by if she had wanted or flown herself and had the nanny pick the kids up. The fact that K not flying up is still being given different reasons says a lot. Other spouses were there or flew there—as the future queen (presumably), it would have been logical for her to be there too. Now the press (and RF?) keeps coming up with stories as to why she did not and the stories are inconsistent and all over the place. Not letting the future-future queen fly up to save face with a hated in-law? This reason makes zero sense.
Kate is strutting around like the terminator in the top pic. Poor Meghan looks terrified. Look at the cocky grin/leer on Kate’s face. Hell, I’d be afraid of her, too. I have NEVER seen the likes of Kate in any “important,” “public” position on the world stage (if you will). She is DEMENTED! William chose so badly and he’s absolutely bottom of the barrel, too.