These days, there really is so much drama within a certain class of British society. The grandest dukes, earls, lords, viscounts and noblewomen are extremely pissy right now because King Charles did not invite many of them to his coronation. Keep in mind, I have no skin in this game – I just enjoy watching fancy, entitled aristocrats’ worlds collapse because they weren’t invited to the biggest royal event in seventy years. But even I wonder if Charles should have made these titled toffs a bigger priority for the guest list. Especially when it comes to Lady Pamela Hicks, daughter of Lord Mountbatten, who was Charles’s mentor and de facto godfather/surrogate father. Pamela Hicks was one of QEII’s bridesmaids. Pamela Hicks and her daughter India Hicks are big-time royalists and long-time defenders of Charles. Pamela has spent years saying all kinds of nasty things about Princess Diana. India has made a point of lavishing Princess Kate with praise. And none of that was enough.
Lady Pamela Hicks will not be among the 2,000 guests in Westminster Abbey for King Charles’ coronation. Queen Elizabeth’s bridesmaid and lady-in-waiting turned 94 on Wednesday, and her daughter India Hicks shared her take on the scaled-down guest list for the May 6 crowning ceremony in an Instagram birthday tribute.
India, 55, said they received a message from one of King Charles’ private secretaries, explaining that “this coronation was to be very different to the Queen’s. 8,000 guests would be whittled down to 1,000 alleviating the burden on the state.”
“The King was sending his great love and apologies, he was offending many family and friends with the reduced list,” wrote India, who is a goddaughter of King Charles and served as a bridesmaid at his wedding to Princess Diana in 1981. “My mother was not offended at all. ‘How very, very sensible’ she said. Invitations based on meritocracy not aristocracy. ‘I am going to follow with great interest the events of this new reign,’ ” India continued in the caption.
“Today my mother turns 94 years old, she must be one of the few remaining people with such a memory intact, about to live through a third coronation,” the designer, writer and entrepreneur wrote. “Happy Birthday to my darling Mum.”
I’m including the Instagram post below. I looked it up to see if I could tell whether India was seething on her mother’s behalf. I can’t tell, but I’ve always had some difficulty reading between British lines and trying to figure out their obscure class-code. If you told me that India included a few signifiers for her deep displeasure, I would believe you. Is one of them “One of the King’s personal secretaires was passing on a message from the King”? Meaning, India is pointing out that Charles sent one of his many toadies to do his work instead of calling one of his parents’ oldest friends, the daughter of his mentor? Is this also code? “My mother was not offended at all.” It reads as… carefully worded.
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- 166873, Lady Pamela Hicks at the funeral of Countess Mountbatten of Burma at St.Paul’s church in Knightsbridge. London, United Kingdom – Tuesday June 27, 2017. UK, FRANCE, AUS, NZ, CHINA, HONG KONG, TAIWAN, SPAIN & ITALY OUT,Image: 533054164, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: WORLD RIGHTS, DIRECT SALES ONLY UNLESS STATED OTHERWISE IN CAPTION – Fee Payable Upon Reproduction – For queries contact Avalon.red – sales@avalon.red London: +44 (0) 20 7421 6000 Los Angeles: +1 (310) 822 0419 Berlin: +49 (0) 30 76 212 251 Madrid: +34 91 533 4289, Model Release: no, Credit line: i-Images, PacificCoastNews / Avalon
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- 166873, India Hicks at the funeral of Countess Mountbatten of Burma at St.Paul’s church in Knightsbridge. London, United Kingdom – Tuesday June 27, 2017. UK, FRANCE, AUS, NZ, CHINA, HONG KONG, TAIWAN, SPAIN & ITALY OUT Photograph: © Stephen Lock, i-Images, PacificCoastNews. Los Angeles Office (PCN): +1 310.822.0419 UK Office (Avalon): +44 (0) 20 7421 6000 sales@pacificcoastnews.com FEE MUST BE AGREED PRIOR TO USAGE,Image: 533054315, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: WORLD RIGHTS, DIRECT SALES ONLY UNLESS STATED OTHERWISE IN CAPTION – Fee Payable Upon Reproduction – For queries contact Avalon.red – sales@avalon.red London: +44 (0) 20 7421 6000 Los Angeles: +1 (310) 822 0419 Berlin: +49 (0) 30 76 212 251 Madrid: +34 91 533 4289, Model Release: no, Credit line: i-Images, PacificCoastNews / Avalon
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- India Hicks, granddaughter of Louis Mountbatten, 1st Earl Mountbatten of Burma attending a Service of Thanksgiving for HRH The Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh at Westminster Abbey, London, England, UK on Tuesday 29 March, 2022.,Image: 674182401, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: Please credit photographer and agency when publishing as Justin Ng/UPPA/Avalon., Model Release: no, Credit line: Justin Ng / Avalon
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- India Hicks and Lady Pamela Hicks (daughter of Lord Mountbatten) at the State Funeral of Her Late Majesty Queen Elizabeth II,Image: 724228650, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: Camera Press Rota, Model Release: no, Credit line: Mark Stewart / Avalon
I do think leaving Pamela Hicks off the list is a mistake for Charles – not that I care either way, but she has a very long and very close connection to the royal family. The press is giving him quite a hard time about it.
But hey – he “only” had 2,000 places. (2,000!)
2000 sounds like a lot, but it really isn’t when you take into account how many people HAVE to be invited from Government, the C of E, the Commonwealth etc etc. If you invite one member of the nobility you’ve got to have them all or you really will cause offence. It’s like a no kids rule at a wedding – Unless they’re in the ceremony they don’t get to come.!
Are you kidding me? Everything this trashy family does has an ulterior motive.
I’d have thought Pamela Hicks would be more in the category of “friend of the family” than just any old aristo. I’m sure CIII could have made room for her if he’d wanted. Bump a Middleton or two, for example. I do think it makes him look petty and disloyal (surprise!).
The fact that this would have been her 3rd coronation attended makes me think she should have been invited for the history of it all. But given that she’s the daughter of his mentor, god father, etc. just wow. That’s basically not inviting family. Just keep stacking up the faux pas, charles
And the fact that the daughter raised that point in her message makes me think that the family is super pissed about it and sending a “bless your heart” message, English style.
@ Josephine & @ JM, yes!! As Lady Hicks has been alive to witness a third coronation in her lifetime is akin to catching the Loch Ness monster. Not only is Indias post a of expressing the anger with his blatant snub, there is certainly deep resentment and anger which is justified. And to add insult to injury is that she was told that the Con-A-Nation had a guest list of 1,000 as twice that many??
Oh my, KFC has certainly committed the ultimate betrayal to snub to sole Mountbatten member that tied into the entire Windsor family.
Agreed, Josephine. That one sentence sold it, for me. That family is super pissed.
I think he sold the seats for bags of cash. Dude is too much of a grifter not too. Think about it. Besides his sons and Camilla’s spawn, who the f has said they got an invite?!?
This is where I’m at. Anyone who’s given Charles a bag of cash over the years will get an invite. They just haven’t advertised it. Yet.
@moxylady – hadn’t thought of that but I’ll bet you’re on to something!
This for SURE sounds like British code for eff you:
“Invitations based on meritocracy not aristocracy. “I am going to follow with great interest the events of this new reign.”
That was my take, too. She is super pissed (and offended) and I think she’s throwing shade at Charles’ future abilities as a king (he does see the incongruity of inviting only those he deems have earned a seat to witness the crowning of the prime example of a nepo-baby, right?)
“How sensible” ist code for middle class, thats a burn.
Aristos consider themselfes above being sensible.
I read that line with a mobster kind of voice in my head =)
To lighten the load on the state. Does this man not know that we all know how rich he is? And that he probably has more money than is even disclosed? He could fund more guests if he wanted to for what would feel like pennies to the rest of us “plebs”. I’m sure the toffs know this too and are watching in wait to trip him up now.
The coronation is a state event though, so it’s not a question of how much money Charles has. It’s going to be funded by the govt. He is their head of state now.
Lady Pamela is very entwined with the family. She’s the aunt of Penny Mountbatten, close companion of the late Prince Phillip. And Penny Mountbatten is somehow related to India Hicks–a cousin I believe. This is like C3 pi***ng on his father’s memory…..
Penny is a cousin in law. Her ex husband and India are both the great grandchildren of The 1st Marquees of Milford Haven through his sons
If William had any sense or the slightest bit of cunning or strategy-
He would throw an extremely formal coronation party and invite every single person Charles has left off the list and reporters to make sure that all the gentry are seen feted and adorned by the heir in a palace. Like a spare no expense. (Hahahaha spare…..)
This was literally a chance to turn enemies into friends and to solidify already aligned friendships and Charles completely screwed it up the A.
William will do no better.
It’s funny to watch as these “games of thrones” style things that you read about in history books going down in real time and so so badly. Makes you wonder what was real and what wasn’t
Agree. All her talking aside but even just out of respect to Mountbatten. Charles looks an ungrateful, spoiled brat which he of course is.
correct me if I’m wrong – but isn’t Charles India’s godfather?
He is.
Chuck telling all these people they don’t matter to him will make it delicious when they all tell him that he no longer matters to them.
This is the one time he could be excused for pandering to these deluded rich people. Without them, there’s few under 60 that actually like/support him. Chuck and his team could not mismanage this Chubbly rollout more if they had tried.
This man is not only stupid, he’s a fool.
Think I may celebrate the coronation by reading about Henry VI and the War of the Roses.
I’m wondering if that’s just it. Charles knows the monarchy is going to be disolved. And he’s inviting people he can mooch off of when he is no longer King. And that sure wouldn’t be the aristos. Most of them are broke. And he couldn’t just invite the rich ones. Because then what would he tell the others.
Isn’t Charles India’s godfather?
Yes, and she was a bridesmaid at his wedding to Diana. These women are basically close family members and he’s making staff dump them
It stops being shocking, when you remember how he has treated Harry. If Willy weren’t a rage-monster, he would probably receive the same treatment.
Charles has been very busy proving that you cannot trust his word and that he has no loyalty to anyone but his devil of a wife.
@arthistorian, agree, Charles keeps showing us what kind of a man he is and I think we all keep hoping he is better than he is. For Harry’s sake. There is just so much evidence of who he is though.
Yes, I believe so.
Wow, this is an incredibly stupid decision, *even* for Charles. The extent to which he’s fcking this entire thing up is mind-boggling.
India did a very good podcast where she interviewed Pamela and Pamela had many fascinating stories about the older royals. I’m surprised Pamela wasn’t invited,
Poorly planned, poorly executed, inevitably overbudget (got to have new gold carriage) and then to insult the few people who genuinely believe you have been anointed by God himself to be King by not inviting them?
Mess. The whole point of this event is to bring everyone together and all they manage to do is insult their closest friends and family.
I’m confused about the new carriage rumor. All the reporting seems to list the Golden State Coach and the Diamond Jubilee Coach (which was built in 2013 for QEII).
I do have a vague memory of reading an article that an independent Coach maker was planning to create a new one in honor of the coronation. But neither the Palace nor the Government commissioned it, they weren’t paying for it, and it was really just an advertisement for a VERY niche industry. However I can’t find that article anywhere so who knows. Please feel free to correct me if I’m wrong.
“‘How very, very sensible’ she said. Invitations based on meritocracy not aristocracy. ‘I am going to follow with great interest the events of this new reign,’ ”
calling this shade doesnt seem quite right, because its pretty clear she is just disgusted 🙂
Right? I’m sure these people are allllllll about meritocracy over aristocracy LOL
If it WERE a meritocracy, Charles and Camilla wouldn’t be the ones getting new fancy hats.
Oh, yeah. They’re pissed.
My thoughts exactly. She’s pissed off. Why else would she make a birthday post of her mother all about a non invite to the coronation? What a way to get people talking about it
Yep. The equivalent of signing an email with regards.
I am taking the sentence about her mother being one of the few remaining people who remembers and is about to live through a third coronation as the fact that she is fully offended for her mother that she won’t be at this one in person, and a pointed look at Charles on the history here.
Although should a woman who’s 94 really be sat around a bunch of unmasked people travelling from all parts of the world in recent days? The U.K. likes to pretend covid no longer exists but… people still get it.
It almost reads like a warning. Like watch out, you idiot. If you are judging on merit, I’m going to be keeping an eye on everything you do to look for this “merit” you talk about.
@JM that’s how I read it too. She will be watching events with all the goodwill of a coiled rattlesnake.
So she said there’s nothing aristocratic about this coronation, and she’ll watch his reign with popcorn at hand, basically.
Not an unfair assessment, I think.
The Republic is nigh.
It’s like those memos that get circulated around the office when someone’s been fired – “we wish him well in his future endeavors.”
Definitely pissed.
Oh I think she is offended alright. Chuckles you’re a real putz but I think it’s king Cowmilla running this show.
It’s Camilla’s doing for sure.
I’m not sure she’s being wise.
Someone commented on a thread yesterday that she thought that most of the Dukes were not invited because they may have been less than welcoming to Camilla. I can believe it. The Hickses have been lauding Charles and bad-mouthing Diana but what about Camilla? I wonder if Lady Hicks’ niece-in-law Penny will get an invite?!
Hicks was extremely close to the Queen and received an invite to her funeral, a very restrictive guest list. I don’t think this is a question of out with the old in with the new because Charles took on the Queen’s ladies-in-waiting as members of his household. It also seems very rude that Buckingham Palace only just now called Hicks to confirm that she was not invited. Charles didn’t even bother to send a note or pick up the phone.
Or, perhaps they just don’t want India Hicks repeating the kind of outfit that she wore to the Queen’s funeral!!
Agree on both counts: she’s offended and mad as hell. And this is Camilla’s doing.
The Hicks’ family may have been ardent monarchists who defended Charles, but I bet ALL these old titled families snubbed and slighted Camilla. I remember how the Spencers were seen as a cut*above* the Windsors bc they were a much older family. I think that’s what’s being pointed out in recent comments by Duke Salisbury and the Earl of Marmalade that their families have supported the crown for over a 1000 years – we were here before you Chuckie.
I also remember a story about how crocamilla wasn’t invited to something, or was assigned seating at the Siberia table, at some artisto ‘do. She was all upset and crying about it and Charles refused to go unless they upgraded her seating.
This is Camilla, settling scores for decades of slights – for these people, the side piece is accepted in the bedroom but not in the drawing rooms and dining rooms if she isn’t of equal rank. And for Charles of course “whatever Camilla wants, Camilla gets” (that phrase was never about Meghan).
Charles seems to think his love and neediness for her alone should elevate her, and he’s forced that into reality. We’re seeing the fallout. Not inviting the artistocracy bc “slimming down” is a gauche, corporate-speak reason. The high road responses of gentle acceptance are very iron fist in velvet glove – we know what this is about and why, we won’t forget.
These are my favorite gossip posts, indignant entitled aristocrats. Nothing will top Duke Privybottom or whatever his name was futilely refurbishing his carriage but not getting an invite, but national reporting on the new king snubbing a 94 year old woman is also entertaining. Not a good look for old Chuck. Wonder what stories Camzilla will have to leak distract from this most mild of criticism.
Absolutely, I didn’t see this coming and it’s proving excellent entertainment for those of us sitting in the cheap seats with our popcorn and ‘not my king’ t-shirts on.
It is excellent entertainment- and it doesn’t involve various kinds of abuse or corruption, which seems to be a mainstay for BRF stories these days. It is just entitled toffs getting their noses out of joint for not getting an invitation to a ceremony that isn’t really necessary but just a waste of millions of pounds. There are no victims here, just a bunch of snooty and entitled people who are in their feelings about something that most people don’t give a shit about. It is like a comedy of manners in a very rarefied zoo of strange social relics.
@Pinkosaurus Same! I love watching the aristos melt down as they discover Charles thinks they are dispensable. These are my favorite kind of posts and I hope to see more of them here.
Lordy, this is funny. The thing is no one knows the official guest list right? Not even the the BM. Will Charles ever release the 2,000 names of who’s actually going? Maybe they’re waiting until closer to the date or it will be known after the actual coronation. I’m just curious to see who actually made the cut. How many foreigners v actual Brits. Technically, this is a post-brexit coronation and Charles is not getting with the nativist program.
Last time I checked all of the European royal families but Belgium had confirmed the 2 members of their family that will be attending
Yes, I also interested in the actual guest list. Because at first there were news that not all MPs and members of the House of Lords were going to be invited, and then neither were the aristocrats. So who is going? Sure he’s inviting people from the Commonwealth and members of other Royal families, but I doubt that’s all of it.
yeah, same @ace, we know there’s 2 from each RF throughout Europe but that does not equal 2,000 peeps. I wanna know the rando invites that are gonna happen. The ones that Hicks is gonna have a fit about when she hears they got an invite over her.
With these things the rule of thumb is “those who mind don’t matter and those who matter don’t mind.” People who actually have a relationship with Charles understand why they aren’t invited and know that the access afforded by their private relationship is far more important. People who aren’t close to the royals are offended because this is their big chance to show off.
This is Charles’s own goddaughter, who was a bridesmaid at his wedding, saying that she and her mum, a bridesmaid at his mother’s wedding, were told by an employee that they aren’t wanted.
Lady Hicks is also Charles’ first cousin once removed. That is not a distant relation. Will his other first cousins once removed be there? E.g., the Dukes of Kent and Gloucester, Princess Alexandra, Prince Michael….
She’s Lord Mountbatten’s daughter! The ‘Last Viceroy’! They’re not just any rando aristos!
Oh they are absolutely offended at not being invited as well as by how bad Charles is at all of this.
“How very, very sensible” is code for “how common and peasanty for the king to want to dumb down the coronation”.
“I am going to follow with great interest the events of this new reign” is the aristo version of Gwyneth’s “I wish you well” to her ski suit guy.
Excellent translations, Betty!!
Brilliant translations Betty!
That second “very” says so, so much, doesn’t it? Like falling drops of condescension 😂
Every line reads big mad:
“My mother was not offended, at all”
– “my mother was offended, deeply, so are we all. Which is why I’m bothering to say she’s not ”
“Meritocracy not aristocracy ”
– “I think this decision is so incredibly stupid I’m going to point out that a royal coronation celebrating primogeniture at the highest level is the furthest thing imaginable from a meritocracy. You clown”
She repeated that her mom’s memory is long and intact. To me, that’s message received? Hopefully she’s working on her memoirs.
Aka, I remember all the favours I did you, plus all the dirt I have on you. A memoir from her should be juicyyy lol
Yep, I noticed the wording. Charles is playing with fire. Mountbatten had a lot of skeletons in his closet, but he also knew all about Charles’. He was like a father to him.
Oh, yeah, I noticed that too! Shot across the bow!
Yea, that’s a version of the Stark’s “The North Remembers.”. Lady Pamela Hick’s book My Years with The Queen was originally scheduled to come out this month. It’s now showing as coming out in February 2024.
I really think that they are burning it all to the ground. It seems he and Camilla ( ofcourse ) are making sure that William will never be King. Charles is King and he might live to 90 or 100 but what will be left for William apart from the money. Charles and his vengeful wife are alienating everyone apart from the tabloids. Camilla can’t care because she’s not the mother of William.
Excuse me but her name is not Parker Bowles or Shand or even Middleton. IIRC India was a bridesmaid for Diana and Charles.
“ she must be one of the few remaining people with such a memory intact,”
Sounds like a threat to me.
This is Queen of Thorns shit. I’m basically hearing, “Tell Charles it was me. I want him to know,” when ALL the old bodies are dug up in a book. I hope India is taking dictation from her mom as we speak.
Oh I love this! It really is isn’t it. Get writing Pam.
This makes no sense at all! I cannot see where their thought process is on this. Surely costs could have been cut in other areas.
I don’t see how. I mean, what was he to do? NOT have a solid gold carriage? You’re being ridiculous Darby. /s
Oh.. ANG… can’t get a breath for lmao 🤣🤣
God, he’s so stupid.
Yes, she’s seething: “Invitations based on meritocracy not aristocracy.”—this is a giveaway.
@Susan Collins
Exactly, KING COWMILLA is behind this. Eliminating anything to do with Princess Diana.
Ok, let’s say Camila’s goal in life is to make sure Diana’s children and grandchildren never ascend to the throne. What’s her end goal? Because if it’s not William, it’s one of his 3 children. Is her goal to destroy the monarchy and keep all of the money for herself and her descendants? If one of her kids are actually Charles’s is there a way to get them in the line of succession ahead of William? Would that require an act of Parliament?
It would require raising an army and declaring civil war. The duke of Monmouth tried it and failed. He was beheaded. (Illegitimate son of Charles 2 – and his chances of success were much higher as there was no legitimate son).
That memory comment sounded like a threat to me. At this rate, I see many tell all memoirs in C-Rex’ future.
And he couldn’t even be bothered to invite his god-daughter? No one from the Mountbattens? The race to the monarchy’s irrelevancy is on. Hopefully sooner rather than later, bc Chuck’s petty shortsighted actions during this fiasco he calls his “reign” are alienating the very people who actually care about upholding the monarchy.
Oh, they are angry all right.
Charles is so bad at all of this.
He really is going to be the last King.
Pamela Hicks’ book “Daughter of Empire” was a really interesting read, like how bonkers crazy fabulous her childhood was so close to the throne. She talks about her mother and her father and their separate lives, growing up with her home used as a WW2 hospital, surprise visits by the queen, and the craziest story to me was how her mom and her boytoy sent the kids to other family’s castle and FORGOT which one, so they had to drive across Europe stopping at various palaces and asking “have you seen my kids?” and it was just another day in the life. I think this is a very arrogant snub considering how close Philip and Charles were reported to be to Lord Mountbatten. Charles is treating this like a royal wedding and not the somber ceremony for the citizens of the UK that it has always been. I’m still surprised that foreign monarchs and heirs have agreed to attend.
It is a great read. India does interviews with her mother about royal adjacent events and recollections all the time and they’re fascinating. Lady Pamela is absolutely a relic of another age, and India is able to point that out respectfully but with humor too. Honestly, I was shocked and actually pretty miffed on her behalf that she wasn’t invited. I know at her age it would probably be too much to sit through-but she should have been asked.
“Charles is treating this like a royal wedding and not the somber ceremony for the citizens of the UK that it has always been.”
1. This is the best sum up of Charles’s view of this shindig.
2. Charles has desperately been fantasizing about having power for 73 years. I guarantee he has overinflated the power of the British monarchy to the point that he believes he is a world leader rather than a powerless caricature of the monarchs of centuries ago.
Maybe it’s just me, but as I read her “my mother is not offended” statements and commentary, all I could think was, “Oh, they’re MAD mad!” 😳
It just read icy-as-hell to me 🥶
It was so icy that meteorologists around the world are now reporting a 2 degree drop in global warming. ❄️❄️❄️
I’ve read the post on Pamela’s comments about Diana and her comments are almost word for word the same as what is said about Meghan today. Maybe Pamela and India should have just shut about the royals and then they would have been invited. Note that India promotes her substack in the Instagram post.
“Invitations based on meritocracy”? Really? What merit do the other monarchs attending have besides coming out the right birth canal in the right order? What have the Middletons done? What have Cam’s children and grands done besides being born with a connection?
I think the way they are doing invitations is ridiculous. I’m certainly not a fan of the Toffs, but that is his base! It isn’t endearing him to anyone. This coronation is a big deal in king world. So make it a big thing!
Salt Island gonna be even saltier than usual when this is over. As Mountbatten’s daughter, I’m pretty shocked she didn’t make the cut. If anyone knows where all bodies are buried, it would be her. Good thing her memory is 👍💯.
I’m (not quite, but still!) surprised at Charles shortsightedness. For sure there’s Camilla behind this. But how foolish.
Unlike, say, the Spanish king, Charles is a primus inter pares, first among equals. This is what the Magna Charta is all about. He doesn’t get to play Louis XIV with the aristocracy.
I believe Camilla thinks she’s paying back what she must have felt as ostracism by the aristocracy (she is part of the “landed gentry”, but her family holds no title, so she’s not at the same level as Diana, for example). I’m pretty sure they ridiculed her behind closed doors, and very much sided with Diana, if they sided with anyone at all. So Camilla wants to win it all, to make no prisoners… but she’s throwing everything into the fire.
What’s more: Mountbatten was like a father to Charles, the figure his real father, Philip, could never be. He was a father figure, a mentor, a friend. His wife was a lifelong family friend. Putting the crown and the whole spectacle aside, it’s horrible behaviour. Ungrateful, unkind, especially because the lady is over ninety. She would probably have declined anyways.
Silly, silly choice.
Yes, very foolish and shortsighted, and cruel.
Pause. (And wicked grin.) But since Meghan turned them down, won’t they have an extra seat?
Charles should apologize for the stupid oversight — and offer Pamela Hicks the seat that —presumably— was already set aside and reserved for Meghan.
Selfishly, I’ve wondered who might be in a position to comment on more than one coronation. Be it history, family loyalty, or simply kindness, Charlesmilla has botched this badly.
If I were Camilla I feel like it would be better revenge to have them sit there and watch me be crowned
This makes ZERO sense considering how close Charles and Philip were to Mountbatten. Mountbatten engineered Liz and Philip and then engineered Chuckles and Diana.
In fact Chuckles was so close to Mountbatten that Philip despised the relationship between them.
Also Charles is India’s god father ?
I think if you were at the last one, you don’t go to this one. You’ve already experienced one. Give that seat to someone else.
Have the Middletons been invited?
Lol. Oh she is pissed off alright. I can practically feel the bitterness leaping through her message. My mom was there for your grandpa and your mother. Who do you think you are to snub her? I was there for you . Do you know who you are SNUBBING . WE ARE VERY IMPORTANT PEOPLE TO THE MONARCHY,HOW DARE YOU SNUB US. Lol
And like i said yesterday, if there is room for the middle bums , there is room for the aristos . After all. Aren’t they your peeps chucky?
Lady Susan Hussey got an invite though. Chuck is really making a mess of all this.
Whhaaat??!!!
Wow…
It’s Camilla. It’s all Camilla. If you shift the lens to see all the decisions coming from her, things come into focus more clearly.
She’s rewarding her loyalists and snubbing those who snubbed her. Charles is just the rubber stamp who shields her from consequences.
Horsey little Camilla Shand’s got the crown, sceptre, and holy God oil so giddy up bitches! The monarchy’s going for a wild ride!!
I believe that’s what the “meritocracy” comment was all about. Not only to insinuate the crown is middle class but also that only the loyalists are being invited.
I honestly don’t understand what’s the rationale for the invitations to the Chubbly. Either you consider it a function of State (which imo it’s the most logical way) and invite the Government, MPs, the HoL members, I guess the CoE people because it’s a State religion, and other heads of State if there’s space. The other option would be to completely make it an aristocracy clownshow. It’s the king and all dukes, earls, marquises, etc. and again the church the king made up.
But Chuck is doing neither. How many people who gave him money he has to invite??
😭 All I wanted was an aristocracy clownshow!!! Robes and coronets! Tiaras! Parure! Strawberry leaves! It’s not fair!😭
Oh yeah, she is super pissed. The fact that she highlighted the invitations were based on meritocracy not aristocracy, wow! Royalty/Aristocracy is what the top of the chain is all about so what’s the point of it if you are gonna leave out the people who have been the most loyal supporters of a monarchy. She’s also pointing out that her mother is one of the few people left who had a chance of witnessing a coronation and you left her out? The final insult was Charles sending the message via his private secretary rather than contacting one of his oldest family connections himself….oh yes, they’re pissed all right.
She wrote an entire post about her mother not being invited, even though most people who follow her wouldn’t have been aware. Also, it’s mother’s birthday, but only two sentences actually speaks to said birthday (and she even takes the opportunity to mention the coronation in the birthday sentence) — she’s MADT.
My tinfoil tiara theory: there is going be a wild story about pedophilia and a trafficking ring amongst the aristos and it will break before the coronation. I’ve honestly been shocked for a while since the documentary “Tell Me Who I Am” and it’s accompanying book came out that there has been no deep dive about those families. The twins say, in no uncertain terms, that their mother was trafficking them to various aristocratic men. Maybe Charles knows and is distancing himself.
Steph, take a read of Lord Mountbatten antics in Northern Ireland. He was murdered not just because of his connections to the Royal family u know. Sick.sick b…..stard.
Plus: India has a daughter named Domino???
Okay, so a few thoughts:
–Her daughter’s name is Domino? Really? Okay then.
–“There have just been two spam calls,” LMAOOOOO saying that calls from Buckingham Palace are spam calls? Yeah okay, really no shade there at all.
–“I am going to follow with great interest the events of this new reign.” Yeah, no way her mother actually said that line. But nice bit of embellishment from Miss India Hicks, I guess.
Look, if there were absolutely no feelings about this at all, and if people really were not offended in the slightest by being snubbed, then there’s no way that Miss India Hicks would have actually posted this caption. All of this is just too extremely try hard for it to be anything other than some obfuscation of the truth. My guess is that Pamela Hicks is PISSED AF about the fact that she’s not invited. She’s 94, the last surviving daughter of Louis Mountbatten, and, this is all they get?
I’d be really really curious to know if Penny Knatchbull is invited. My guess would be that she is. Not out of any sense of friendship or affection for her, but bc she’s the sort of person the royal family likes–she doesn’t compete for attention or headlines, in the way that other thirsty aristocrats might.
All the same, it’s just too bad. I can empathize with that sense of not being allowed to partake in a crucial bit of history. The aristocracy, outside of its money, clout, and substantial land ownership, don’t have a whole lot else in terms of stuff like this. The coronation is one of the very few state occasions that they can show up to and participate in. There were probably a whole generation of them who were looking forward to dusting off the coronation robes and coronets for the first time in decades, plus those whose parents attended QEII’s coronation, who have since acceded to the title. Maybe there will be future coronation they can attend, but for a lot of them, there likely won’t be, so yes, they’d be feeling that snub quite deeply. It is a missed opportunity for many of them.
So I can’t make sense of Charles’ decision really. He wants to aspire to greater heights, but like, is this the way to do it? There are quite literally a handful of titled aristocrats to invite. Camilla’s grandson and nephew get invites, but the people that make up the fabric of the class system that the monarchy is embedded in don’t? Make it make sense.
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Why mention the invite at all unless it’s a different at Charles? If she is not mad, this would just have been a “Happy birthday, mom!” post. The only reason to mention that you are “not offended” is if you are, in fact, offended.
She could even have covered for Charles and said that as a family friend, her mother will be looking forward to seeing Charles crowned but she’s still 90-something years old. I don’t think most people would have found it unreasonable for her to give the ceremony a miss. But instead, India made a point to inform us that Charles’s staff told them they weren’t on the list. Ouch.
And of course the guests they’re REALLY forgetting are the British public – what they’re going to be tuning in to see is MAJOR aristocracy – meritocracy, all fine and good – BUT what they WANT to see is the gowns and the hats and the tiaras and the rattling of the jewelery.
Will they want to see a full dull ceremony, focused on Charles and That Woman, and surrounded by complete strangers and foreigners they neither know nor care about? Think of the water coolers (or British equivalent) the day after… who will care which bores sat where, and what gown Camilla lumbered down the aisle in? The event will be televised and the commentary – which might have been able to note (for instance) the Mountbatten family and connections, the insider stuff, the emotional stuff, the awkward stuff (Phillipa and the fam, India and Diana, Mountbatten and Phillip, Mountbatten and Charles, Mountbatten and the Nazi’s… And all the other first rate goss) but who will instead be replaced by a commentary naming unknown Commonwealth leaders, unknown charity connections…unknown middle-aged political bores, and NOTHING connected to the heart and soul – and tragedy and despair – or anything connected to that which makes the public continue to support the otherwise generally pointless monarchy.
Stand by for low interest, low ratings, and a rising tide of, “how much do these snotty bores cost us?? And what do we actually need them for??” making the distance between the reign of QEII… and KFC… stretch all the way to imminent oblivion.
What an IDIOT Charles is.
You either give the Great British Public a display of the primary reason the royal family still garner interest (money, snobbery, intrigue, shocking stories, death, bigotry and rattling jewels) or prepare to be history.
Sooner than KFC thinks.
THIS!
It’s a terrible decision to turn away from pomp and bling, that’s what royal watching used to be for!!!!
Charles and Camilla are doing such a bad job of all this, I’m half expecting Prince Albert of Monaco to give Chuck a phone call offering his advice. LOL.
Prince Albert and his weeping at the alter wife, at least are clever enough to try to keep their easy jobs. They show up with their kids, get their photos taken, make a careful and boring short statement and then go away for another 6 months.
Ah, Mountbatton’s daughter. He was the Peadophile who raped many a young irish boy. And then the British secret servoce did their best to cover it up. Filth.
Ahh GOBO, many an Irish Protestant boys from the nearby school, as de Catholics where to lower class dont u know !!! The Lord himself used to bring these boys in by car to their late night boys only parties, it was horrific and l.suppose allowed by their private fee paying school. The Winsdor where told the boat he used to go out fishing on wasn’t safe, but ignored it, they knew and didnt care !!!! The IRA bombed that boat , as it was too easy a target however the IRA saved hundreds of local boys from his and his cronies deranged dark ways.
Dear Reddit, I failed to invite several distant relations, family friends and members of the aristocracy to a large gathering in honor of me. But it’s a very small guest list! AITA?
Very strange that she’s not invited. She was QEII lady in waiting & with the Queen & Prince Philip when George VI died. She’s been vocal about dossing Diana but I wonder if perhaps less than welcoming to Camilla?
A YouTuber named Antphrodite did an awkward tarot card reading on the debacle King Charles’ reign will be.