Looking back on it, I’m still so mad that Prince Harry and then-Meghan Markle extended wedding invitations to the Middleton clan. Like, I know I’m the only one hanging on to this, but after the way Kate and William were already treating Meghan, and after the way the Middletons treated Meghan around Pippa’s 2017 wedding? No – Carole, Michael, Pippa and James Middleton should not have been invited to the Sussex wedding. Now, it makes some kind of sense that the Middletons have apparently ALL been invited to the coronation. Kate is the Princess of Wales now, and Prince George is a page at his grandfather’s coronation. So it appears that the whole Middleton clan is hopping in their jalopy and goin’ to the Clowning, Clampett-style.
Kate Middleton’s family may be among the guests at King Charles’ coronation on May 6. While high profile guests like Lady Pamela Hicks didn’t receive an invitation to the event, another royal bridesmaid could be set to attend.
According to Daily Mail diary editor Richard Eden, Pippa Middleton, who, he notes, ‘made such an impact’ at the wedding of her sister to Prince William, has been invited to the big day. He added that the Princess of Wales’ parents Carole and Michael have also received an invitation, alongside her brother James Middleton.
‘They are the family of our future queen, so it’s right that they should be there,’ Richard Eden was told by one of their friends.
People Magazine noted that Pippa and James Matthews (of Terribly Moderately Wealthy fame) had “no comment” when asked if they will be in attendance. Which probably means they will be. So, as I said, it seems like a reasonable thing for Charles to invite the “en masse Middletons.” It makes less sense when you think about how many aristocrats, lords, dukes, earls, marquesses, viscounts and family friends didn’t get Chubbly invites though. I absolutely think that Charles not inviting Pamela Hicks – the daughter of Lord Mountbatten, his mentor, surrogate father and advisor – was a huge shift in priorities. I think that really shocked the aristocrats, most of whom are also not invited. Lord, it’s going to look tacky as hell if Carole Middleton’s broke ass swans into the Abbey and gets seated in any kind of prominent position. Keep your eye on this too – if the aristos are truly disgruntled, they’ll play a long game.
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“…if the aristos are truly disgruntled, they’ll play a long game.”
And I am here for it!! Lol.
Hopefully the royalists won’t have enough time for any long games as the monarchy crumbles for good.
That’s an interesting thought, actually. What will the aristocracy do with themselves if/when the monarchy destroys itself? In countries like Germany and the former Austro-Hungarian states, which abolished all that after WWI, does the aristocracy still have any influence? I know the titles officially mean nothing, but I know a German man whose family title is now his legal last name, and I’ve always thought that it was a bit grasping and pathetic.
But if the monarchy crumbles, doesn’t the aristocracy crumble, too?
I have a friend of a friend who’s married to a German baron. They live pretty similarly to most British aristos, from what I can see. I visited them in Germany, and they do indeed have a castle–2 castles–but 1 is set up as a hotel and the other is derelict. They live in a pretty normal house. Maintaining the castles is super expensive, but the Baron is the 19th of his family, so he feels he has to, even though it’s a major money suck. They don’t use their titles in their day to day life, but there are a few ceremonial events they attend where they get dressed up–mainly weddings and christenings. I don’t know if they are typical or not–for me they are a sample of one, but they don’t seem to be as insular as British aristos–I met the wife when she was studying in the US, and they have a global set of friends.
Oh good. That’s what I came on to ask. Wow, are they going to be pissed off, or what? Why is he burning all these bridges?
lanne, I always think of the Great Estates of Scotland series when I think of modern aristos. The family running Kincardine is doing everything from giving music lessons to selling jam to teaching flyfishing to opening their house every night as a hotel.
How many times can that man tell the same story about his extremely distant relative Jane Austen? Whatever it takes to replace the massive roof.
William has no concept of what aristos are doing to keep things together. He has his false idea they’re all lolling about hunting 100% of their time while poor Bill has to ‘work’.
By not inviting Pamela Hicks, the Duke of Rutland, the Duke of Somerset and the Earl of And-or-Wherever, the Aristros (and the Aristos stick together; all 806 of them) will turn against KFC III like the Turnip Toffs turned against Wiggington. Why would you want to piss-off 806 families.
FootNote: The hereditary peers of the United Kingdom of GB & NI; As of April 2023, there are 806 hereditary peers: 30 dukes (including six royal dukes), 34 marquesses, 189 earls, 110 viscounts, and 443 barons (disregarding multiple subsidiary titles counting only each peer only once.).
Yasssssss!!!!! Long game tea time!!!!!
Might the long game be some juicy articles written in the Tatler magazine?That might be interesting.
Unless something bizarre happens, the aristos and the Windsors will still be the largest landowners in the U.K. They matter economically and politically. Charles is seems to be systematically alienating his natural supporters so who knows—but I’d bet on the aristos to throw the Windsors over the side.
Exactly. Many of these Aristos families go way farther back than the windsors. The windsors are like Kardashians to them, honestly. And they are like the equivalent to like the Carnegie or Vanderbilt’s or Rothschilds or kennedys whatever here. Names on buildings. Exclusive circles. Endless generational wealth. But yeah, they will serve the windsors up in the tabloids for this for sure. Love to see it.
Layin’ in a stock o’ popcorn ….
I mean … Kate is the future Queen, no matter how anyone feels about that. So I actually have no issue with this. And there was no world in which the Sussexes could get away with excluding her family. And to be fair, they most likely at that time thought it would bring everyone together. We know they didn’t realize the extent of the shitty situation they were in until later, they said it themselves. They tried hard.
I shudder to think about the outraged hate that would have been heaped on Meghan if the Middleton’s had not been invited to the wedding. At the time, I remember thinking how Meghan is such a good person — after the way the Middletons treated her over Pippa’s wedding, and boasted about it. Anyway, CIII has botched the adage about keeping your friends close (not invited) and your enemies closer (yep, all on the list).
I don’t think the Middletons were invited to the evening reception at Frogmore. They got invited to the ceremony and the Windsor Castle reception, so Harry and Meghan were more generous and gracious than the Middletons, regardless. Harry and Meghan are not petty, and they did the right thing, even though it makes some of us angry on their behalf. That’s just the thing- they don’t play the small-minded social games- they are above that.
@ tasmin, H&M are exceptionally diplomatic at all times. How Meghan was able to speak generously of KKHate had me stumped, ie the Oprah interview. But H&M as individuals, as well as a couple, are kind. They don’t look for trouble and they don’t cause trouble. It’s too bad no one else is willing to reciprocate the same towards them both.
The wedding had enough people invited that inviting Kate’s parents made sense. Kate’s siblings didn’t need to be there, but what makes it worse is how Carole and the rest of the family then chose to participate in attacking Meghan.
As for the coronation, seeing as there was such talk of limited spaces, they should have just invited Carole and Mike. But Camilla likely doesn’t care if they are there or not because it’s her party and she is in control as long as Charles is around.
@ Nic919, oh, you are absolutely right!! This is Cams party, not Charles’s. She is the puppet master and he is her puppet!!
I would like to point out the aristos who were not invited is the outcome for the injustices that Cruella felt was flung upon her once she destroyed the marriage between C&D. Diana was a true blue blood and Cruella is not and has never been one. Had they all welcomed Cruella with open arms and hearts they would have been invited. But Cruella has scores to settle which is what she is doing with the invitations.
Middleton thinking – “Yes, at last we are being treated as the royalty we are”
Charles thinking – “Invite the Middleton’s, it will make us look more in touch with poor and common people”
Camilla thinking – “Where da fuq is the gin?”
I know?!? After the nonsense about skipping Chucky and The Sidepiece tgey better watch their backs! Camilla might hire someone to poison dart them!
Agree zap. I think they let William marry her because they decided it would help with the common folk. No one could’ve predicted just how terrible Kate would be. The queen was suspicious with the “what does she do” but you assume she would get better.
I thought none of the other women would marry him? Kate was just the only one willing to say yes.
William didn’t ask permission. He set up the press conference and only told his grandmother an hour before.
Exactly what Emmi said.
” ‘They are the family of our future queen, so it’s right that they should be there,’ Richard Eden was told by one of their friends.”
Lol at a “friend” (hi, Carole!) having to defend this. If Charles hadn’t mishandled these invites, it wouldn’t have become an issue.
Of course they’ll be invited; this is another part of their victory lap.
I did think it was weird the entire clan was invited to Harry’s wedding. carole and mike? okay. but all of them? I know its part of their image that they’re so close-knit (you might say enmeshed and co-dependent and overly involved, potato/potahto I guess) but does Kate need her whole family at as many royal events as possible for support after 12 years?
I guess she does if the royals hate her and her own husband can’t stand her.
I think its more a case of you you get one and you get them all – they work as a pack, and yeah kHate can’t do sh!t without being propped up by her family. Remember Pippa was her wing woman for many years during the great Prince hunt, chasing off other women and bullying the Yorks.
They have a looooong history of being very very pushy!
This is one of the few areas where I can’t help feeling a teeny tiny bit sad for Kate: she genuinely seems to have NO ONE outside her own family. There are many, many reasons why she would have no friends now — she’s a jealous, spiteful racist, after all — but was she always so insular? Was that part of Carole’s shitty, singularly focused social climbing agenda?
@miranda
Not everyone wants or needs friends. That doesn’t make us less than, or make it true our lives somehow lack & therefore we should be pitied.
We just don’t want or need “friends”.
I remember stories about kHate from school where she was described as reserved (not a lot of people remembered her, she was one of those people that was always in the background) – there were also stories about how her mother would call up the other parents from school to ask for kHate to be invited to parties/events the other parents organised for their children.
I’ve always gotten the impression that she struggled to make friends on her own – her cousin once said that kHate has trouble looking beyond herself, people eventually get tired to being around someone like that.
Pippa was always the outgoing friendly one who had all the friends.
@Miranda that’s one of the things that i circle back to about Kate. I really wonder how much is nature vs. nurture with her. Was she raised to be that insular, to only care about herself, to not look beyond herself like @DigitalUnicorn mentions, or is that a result of her upbringing? At what point did Carole decide her daughters were the ones who were going to move her uptown, so to speak? (I’ve been listening to Fancy by Reba a lot lately for some reason, lol.)
It seems like at least from high school Kate was being conditioned to “move up” in the social ladder – so she was probably instructed on the right friends, right hangouts, right boys to meet, etc. William was the end goal but I feel like Carole’s motto was shoot for the moon bc if you miss, you’ll land among the stars.* And it seems after Kate got married Pippa’s moonshot became less important, so to speak, lol. George Percy probably was Carole’s goal but a moderately rich man who is in love with Pippa is definitely a better result for her.
*side note – i hate that saying bc there aren’t stars between the moon and earth. But you get my drift..
needing/not needing friends isn;t really the issue with Kate. Kate needs allies, and she seems to have none. Meghan would have been up shits creek had she dealt with all the mess from the royals without any allies. Meghan had members of Parliament, billionaires like Oprah and Tyler Perry in her corner. She had connections in many different areas–philanthropy, arts, and business. What does Kate have? Her feckless family. She has no one outside of them who will stand up for her. If she’s ever deemed expendable, she will be tossed aside.
@Kokiri – I apologize if I sounded patronizing. That wasn’t my intent, as I’m an introvert myself, and I can certainly relate to that perspective. But I don’t know if that’s the case with Kate, who seems desperate for people to like her, but doesn’t seem to realize how off-putting or even counterproductive her efforts often come across. And even the relationships she does maintain seem toxic. Some of us may not want or need friends, but to not have someone on your side, even just passively, is, I think, sad.
I think there are a few things to keep in mind here. One, as soon as she started dating William, it would have been her one job to make HIS friends like her. That may have come at the expense of her own friendships. Two, who could she trust at that point? Maybe a few friends fell by the wayside, as it happens after uni. Three, she does not seem like a very outgoing woman. She honestly does seem like an introvert. For introverts (I am one) it can be very stressul to make friends. It’s hard to get over the hump, that phase where they’re acquaintances. It takes so much energy and I personally would love to just go “We’re friends now, you can tell me everything. I’ll help you move, call me if you’re sick.” but that’s not how it works. I have a really small circle of friends but at this point in my life, I know they’re ride or die, neither of us is going anywhere. I’m good.
Maybe that’s her situation and then of course there’s the weird husband (THAT can be a breakup factor in terms of friendship) and her insane “job”. Remember in Spare when she shows up to dinner “dressed to the nines”? I think she’s just uncomfortable a lot of the time. In general.
Kate chose to be that way. Keen introverted? No. She has spent 25 years doing everything she can to be the centre of everyone’s attention. We see that at all of her engagements, around family photos that have to be all about her, to her shoving other royals aside to be first in line. She’s not introvert.
She chose to hang her naked bum out the window so often at school, the teachers called her MiddleBum. She chose to wear booty shorts for her yacht ‘job’, so her boss had to reprimand her for deliberately flashing the wealthy men who were standing under the hatch. She chose to wear a lined skirt as a see-through top in order to get William’s sexual attention.
Kate chose to only pursue friendships with William’s friends to get to William. She chose that, no one else. She slept her way through William’s male friends to get into his bed. Again, she chose that, no one else.
The poor victim Kate narrative is getting very old.
@nota its not a “poor victim Kate narrative” to speculate on her upbringing. All the things you mentioned are after decades of Carole’s influence on her. Like I said, its a good discussion of nature vs. nurture and its almost impossible to separate the two sometimes.
Also, being an introvert doesn’t mean one is shy or never leaves the house or doesn’t want to the center of attention. It’s more about what recharges you. I’m pretty introverted, but because I am talkative, it took me decades to realize this about myself, and it actually morphed into anxiety at one point (that I still struggle with) because everyone kept telling me I was an extrovert and so outgoing etc etc. I’m not really. I need my time at home to recharge, I am very anxious around new people, etc.
maybe Kate is an introvert, maybe she isn’t. But being an introvert doesnt mean she’s a victim.
Kate is 41 years old. At what point are people going to realize she is responsible for her own choices?
@Kokiri True but in racist Kate’s case, she might not want or need friends, but in that vipers pit aka the RF, she definitely needs allies. Powerful and influential ones. Which her family is not, and she doesn’t have any other allies. She’s done nothing to endear herself to anyone. Which is a major problem.
But I don’t feel sorry for her.
@nota: What Becks1 said. How has she spent 25 years trying to be the center of attention? Those wild examples you bring up don’t make 25 years of attention whoring. We don’t know if she’s an introvert but none of the things you describe mean she cannot possibly be one.
People would describe me as confident, open, and a people person. The first I worked hard on and sometimes it’s an act. The second is true but came with age. The third is absolutely not the case but strangers can’t tell. I had to practice that and I need a break after spending time with a group larger than 3. Like I said, Kate doesn’t ever seem relaxed or outgoing. If you want that, just look at how Meghan relates to people. Kate always seems rehearsed, she seems uncomfortable. Does anyone here actually think the job she has is suited to her personality? No. She doesn’t seem to enjoy any of it so it’s pretty reasonable to ask how much of it was Carole and how much Kate actually wanted to be PoW. Because she’s not looking like she’s having a good time.
And being a brat in school does not mean you’re an extrovert.
Introverted people do not like being the centre of attention in large crowds and don’t like being noticed. There is nothing to suggest that kate doesn’t like attention when she is in public. In fact her behaviour suggests she likes the attention being drawn to her. The multiple balcony appearances do not show someone who hides away from the crowd.
That kate doesn’t seem to have a large circle of friends is more because she has been calculated in terms of who was useful to her to achieve her goal of getting and keeping William’s attention. The few names we hear mentioned as her “friends” are all connected to William and when she was at St Andrews, it was known that she didn’t bother with anyone who wasn’t in those rarefied circles. She didn’t really think things through once she got the ring, but that’s on her. She could have had a solid ally with Meghan, but her jealousy got in the way.
Whether or not Khate is an introvert, she simply doesn’t have the depth of character, intelligence and focus to create a network of, for lack of a better description, supporters. Not necessarily friends, not necessarily staff, but somewhere in between, to guide her into making the best of all the opportunities she’s been given. In a sense, she’s like Melania Trump who, when first lady, did basically fuck-all, and when she did do something it was a disaster and she could barely disguise her boredom. Khate is vacuous, jealous and spiteful and reacts to those around her, who show her up just by doing a good job, with disinterest or downright disdain.
kHate is no introvert – this is a woman who for the first several years of her marriage flashed people almost every time she was on a royal tour. Then there are the many topless pics that have been taken of her over the years, the alleged photos where she’s giving William a blow job on the balcony of that french villa (from the holiday they took instead of supporting the 2012 paralympians) and then there are the naked yoga photos that Pippa took.
She is a total exhibitionist who has always loved the attention, esp the media attention. She may be been reserved when she was at school but that changed at some point.
@Becks: I’m a severely introverted person myself. I have anxiety attacks in stores where there’s lots of people. I have to go shopping at night when there’s not many people. I didn’t always feel this way and I wish I could be the old me, but….I understand your point.
@Nota no one is giving Kate a pass here, ffs. We’re discussing her upbringing and the impact that may have on her. I’m sure your upbringing had an impact on you, as mine did on me. No one is saying she isn’t responsible for her own choices. Discussing why she has no friends and never seems to have had any close friends isnt’ saying she’s not responsible for being an awful person to Meghan etc.
@DU you were the one who alluded to her being an introvert lmao. that’s why we’re having this discussion! You mentioned her being reserved and struggling to make friends while Pippa was the “friendly and outgoing” one LOL.
Anyway, I think people (Nota, lol) are reading too much into this conversation. Kate may be an introvert. She may not be. Being an introvert doesnt make someone a better person than an extrovert, which seems to be what some think others are saying here.
you can be an introvert and be a terrible person. You can be an extrovert and be a terrible person.
What we are discussing is Kate’s total lack of friends (besides those who could help her on her way to marrying william) and at what point in her childhood that started. At what point did her whole identity become “marrying William.”
Just a comment on the topic of anxiety around people and the need to recharge. Not that I’m attempting to diagnose (I really don’t like that thing of diagnosing strangers via media) but I noticed some parallels. My son is on the spectrum and a behavioral analyst describes the the situation around people on the autistic spectrum in that they “run out of clicks” in the attempt to fit into a neurotypical environment. The result of “running out of clicks” or trying to adapt to a group of people (that are, to you, strange) is exhaustion.
I suspect that this is similar to many, regardless of one’s brain wiring and in fact there are many “neuro models” among humans. So basically you can build anxiety trying to “fit in” to a social ecosystem that may be foreign to you – by either brain physiology or a social group. With Kate it may be a lifetime of trying to fit in with a group she is not inherently a part of. I can only imagine trying to fit in and be accepted into aristo circles – I understand that it’s very hard to be “one of them”!
@Becks1 – LOL I know but the narrative around her school days is odd to me. From what I recall her classmates said that she was quiet but it does seem as if she got more outgoing when she hit those mid teens and started showing an interest in boys. Her behaviour (the flashing etc..) does seem to scream ‘hey boys look at me’.
She may have started out as an introvert but she burst out of her shell at some point – which I think is one of the way Carole’s pushiness comes in, she pushed kHate out of her shell. Maybe changing schools was the catalyst.
The Pippa comment came from someone in the aristo set who alluded that they preferred Pippa’s company as she was friendlier than her sister.
Kate’s ‘total lack of friends’ is her choice and her responsibility. One of the few ‘friends’ she has is the racist who runs for-profit orgies and was cautioned by The Met for threatening to kill POC immigrants. That’s the kind of ‘friend’ Kate chooses.
Again Kate is 41 years old, her mummy is not responsible for her choices.
A lot of people have issues in their school years, but that doesn’t justify kate being a mean girl to Meghan, even as recently as the funeral events. I didn’t see anxiety when she was being a total bitch to Meghan.
Maybe it’s a case of the Middletons are invited so Kate has someone to talk to at the after party? Otherwise, it’s Burger King dumping her the minute they enter the reception/luncheon and Kate is left looking for someone to talk to. Whatever, I am looking forward to seeing what Alizee wears. She’s interesting to me.
@Harper – I think you hit the nail on the head without even swinging a hammer.
Maybe KC thinks this, like having Cam’s family participate, makes them look like a “blended”, all-inclusive family. If he thinks it will make it any less glaringly obvious that the biracial family members aren’t made to feel welcome, he’s wildly out of touch.
Of course they are all going – no way kHate and Ma were NOT going to be there in some way. Thou am also a little surprised the whole lot are going to be there considering how much Chuck dislikes her family. They will try and steal focus en masse as they usually do – will be interesting to see what cheap bling Ma turns up wearing. And they will absolutely play this when it comes to selling their tat business.
The aristo’s will be pissed and you can bet there will be some ‘leaks’ about that lot coming soon. It’s been made clear again and again that the aristo’s will NEVER welcome the Middletons into their ranks and that burns Ma and kHate. They have always been desperate climbers that people laugh at.
As I read that excerpt from Eden, this is all I could think of. The aristocracy have never accepted KKKHate or her redneck family, but they’ve stayed pretty discreet over the years. The double whammy of that class NOT being invited to the Clowning, while the Middleton Clan is there en masse, is highly likely to cause many to start pulling the gloves off.
Can’t wait.
I think we’re going to get some more Tatler articles soon……
Is uncle Gary going
It’s not really a party until he arrives, right?
I’ve heard he bring the best party favors
A valid and funny question…
I agree it was weird that the Middletons were invited to Harry and Meghan’s wedding but they would have made a stink in the press if they weren’t. As for the coronation I don’t have problem with Kate’s parents being invited but the siblings can stay home.
The Middeltons were seated in the back at the wedding and weren’t invited to the evening reception. Harry and Meghan were being nice to invite them and just keeping the peace.
I find it funny that these Middletons are invited to things but no one can stand them.
They were invited as H&M have manners – something the Middleton’s lack. Remember the nasty stories that they planted in the press about Meghan attending Pippa’s wedding. They used Meghan to drum up publicity for a wedding that no one was interested in and to get as much freebies as possible.
And they are in no way comparable to the Clampetts, each of whom was very kind; unless you got on Granny’s bad side, of course. 😉
I’ve missed the disgruntled quotes from the Duke of Hiffenstuff and Counyess Tootlebitters indignant about being snubbed. I hope this rubs salt in the wound seeing not only Kate’s parents but her siblings and spouses taking their seats.
You know Cams and TPB will be giddy to spill or make up some ghastly stories about the attending Midds. That gossip will be like wildfire. I may be giving too much credit to Pips and James, but maybe with his (albeit limited) aristo background and knowledge of the social price at stake here, they’ll be wise enough to skip it?
I’ll be very much looking forward to seeing what James’ French wife will be wearing, she’ll be the only interesting one to watch.
“hopping in their jalopy and goin’ to the Clowning, Clampett-style.” Good thing I wasn’t drinking ☕ when I read that! 😆😂🤣
Hahaha! Please oh please oh please sit them next to Andrew.
I’m imagining Pippa in the back seat of the jalopy holding onto her hat like Ellie May.
Carol Middleton is Portia Featherington from Brigerton.
1) Does that invite include wife-beating, drug-dealing Uncle Hookers and Blow?
2) Odds on Carol(E) showing up in another pseudo Catherine Walker to continue her own Diana cosplay
These are the moments Carole Middleton planned for from the moment her daughters were born. She has succeeded in getting one daughter, who struggles with her working life and most likely her marriage, nearing the throne. And she has grandchildren inside this institution who will never be out of the spotlight and away from scrutiny. Well done, you, Mrs Middleton. Enjoy the pointless ceremony.
sparrow, and I’m sure she has never asked herself if the loss of privacy and an independent life for her grandchildren are worth it. She is only thinking of herself. What a piece of work.
Hey Carol, are you going to pull up that ladder now you think you have reached the TOP level of British aristocracy? Better hope you have A blow up safety castle under it, because the sht is going to hit the fan and your daughter will be bouncing down with you. When Alex Tiffin broke the story about Rosie and Billy, another reporter and editor, said it was “common knowledge” among the aristo circles. Wonder who’s noses have been put out of joint at not getting an invite, will see you ALL at the clowning and suddenly remember a friendly pap. It couldn’t happen to a nicer social climber, enjoy 😂
Mary Pester — I am literally rubbing my hands with glee anticipating the shitstorm that’s going to happen after this gong show is finally done and dusted. The toffs will extract their pound of flesh and the tabloids and Tatler are going to be full of such wonderful schadenfreude SHADE!
Hugs!
@JADED, you and me both lovey, and it couldn’t happen to a more deserving family 😂 revenge is a dish best served cold, (on a silver salver) 😂😂
Mary Pester yes oh yes indeed!
The Middletons were only invited to the church ceremony for the Sussexes. Noticed where they sat? Back back back with no view ! They got to watch the big screen I the church that’s all 😂😂
They were also at the back for the Diamond Jube concert so I suspect this will be the same – they will be at the back. Carol(e) and Mike were also at the back for TQs funeral.
I bet the White Markles will be mad, lol! “Its all Meghan’s fault, we should be there too! Whaaa!” Jk.
THEY SHOULD! If the middletons can go, anyone can come. The middletons should’ve been banned long ago.
God this lot are common, sooooo common, suppose de heavy back eye liner doesn’t help their cause!
Charlie and de williewonkas are shafting their own lot now , what a sh.t show this has turned out to be , Genuinely hope it pours on his tacky gold painted carriage!
Loving Carole’s overall botox shine. She can still afford that apparently, heh heh.
Well, there are probably heaps of unsold Party Pieces tiaras they can wear.
Right. For Kate that has to bear a flower crown hahaha
To go along with becks. Someone like Percy wouldn’t have married a Pippa. I know this might ruffle feathers. From a titled perspective. Who wants to marry in with a bunch of common, ran through, poors. When we laugh at the aristos passing women around we are laughing at the lower rankings. The camillas. You have to have money to be slutty and still respected. The aristos aren’t asking to go to the coronation. Just the poor windsors and mountbattens seem sidelined.
When that man felt comfortable in his position he wasn’t going to marry Pippa. He doesn’t need a royal connection that bad.
I know someone will say dating history doesn’t matter. But it does. Look at chuck and di. Kate allegedly slept with almost all of Williams friends. That’s second wife behavior. No one treats George like a future king. Only a few treat Kate like a future queen.
Rackel, interesting. The Escort and Wails have more in common than I first thought.
“The aristos aren’t asking to go to the cornonation. Just the poor windsors and mountbattens seem sidelined.” That’s an interesting perspective if you see that the aristos aren’t perceiving the Escort and KFC on the same plane (so to speak) as they are. If I interpreted that correctly, it seems the brf has completely overlooked something very important. They do that a lot.
Does anyone know if Pippa invited plus ones to her wedding in general? I thought I read somewhere that although common in America, that plus one isn’t really a concept at British weddings and that couples are only invited together if they’re engaged/married and/or if both are already friends of the bride/groom. But maybe that’s only an aristo thing and the controversy is that Pippa isn’t an aristo? Did Meghan and Harry invite James girlfriend to their wedding – I’m trying to remember, were they engaged at the time or not yet? If she was just James girlfriend and not engaged I’m curious if she was invited to Harry and Meghan’s wedding.
Eugenie and Jack weren’t engaged but they were invited. I think the bigger issue though was the Meddletons leaked to the press that Meghan wasn’t invited. Who would do that, its so rude and classless? Poppa is not royal, nobody cared who came to her wedding.
Especially since I doubt Harry gave a crap about going to Pippa’s wedding. He was just being polite, so they make it uncomfortable for him? Hand. Overplayed.
Oh interesting – and I imagine that Pippa wasn’t friends with Jack (I’m just guessing she wasn’t ever friendly with the York sisters) so that does seem like more of a plus one invite than inviting a couple that she knows well and is friends with both. It’s really weird that the Middleton’s would leak about Meghan not being invited because that brings the attention back to Meghan for the whole thing, instead of the attention being on Pippa which is what I thought they wanted to avoid? Seems like a weird flex to leak to the newspaper when what you are basically leaking is this person is such a big star / everyone is so interested in them, that if she’s invited noone will care about me at my own wedding.
First the Midds spent months using Meghan’s name as a way to merch the wedding, then they decided about the invite.
The excuse for letting Jack attend Pippa’s wedding was that they had been dating for close to ten years. But that never justified the No ring no bring nonsense because it was only ever targeted to Meghan. The Middletons treated Meghan just as poorly as the Windsors did.
Where’s my Succession geeks? How much does it seem Willa’s mother was modeled after Mama Mid? Especially the scene before the wedding where she’s propping up Connor’s ego?
I’m not sure the Sussexes did invite the Middletons en mass to their wedding. A few things came out in the press after the wedding that indicated that each senior member of the royal family was allowed to invite a certain number of guests. For example, it was divulged that an arms dealer attended Meghan and Harry’s wedding. This came out in an attempt to shine poorly on the Sussexes but the arms dealer had been invited by Andrew to the wedding. So, clearly the Sussexes did not control the invite list to their wedding.
The same was true of Charles and Diana’s wedding. I remember it said at the time that Diana, at least initially, was only offered 50 seats that could be filled by her family, friends and other invitees! All the remaining seats in the huge Abby were for invitations extended by the Queen, other Royals and the government.
Andrew brought an arms dealer as his guest to the wedding? That shouldn’t surprise me. I know they all sell access to the worst people on earth, but *seriously*?? I guess this was pre being outed as a paedo and still very much within the safety of mummy’s protection, but mygawd.
I find that quite implausible. The commentators noted that everyone invited to the wedding was personally known to Harry and Meghan and were friends, family, work, cause/ charity related and that makes a lot of sense. There were no other royal families, politicians, or heads of state. Andrew bragged about how many “friends” Eugenie and Jack had and they needed a big Church. I can see Andrew inviting an arms dealer to his daughter’s wedding, as parents are usually entitled to invite their friends as well. As relatives of Harry’s immediate family, I can see Kate wanting her family invited. And since Harry was invited to Pippa’s wedding, it would be rude for Harry not to invite her and her parents. James ,I believe, was a singleton at the time. The tally was supposed to be 600 guests, with capacity of the chapel being 800 which apparently Eugenie had. Both weddings looked like guests were packed in like sardines.
I am interested with their seating arrangement.
If Cam is bringing her entire brood to Bore-A-Nation then Kate should invite her side too.
Kate, Mother of FFK + Mother of FFQ if needed, + Mother of FFK part 2 if needed.
Kate should have more weight than Cam. And I don’t like ANY of these wealth hoarding doorknobs.
Btw, I hope it pours down buckets of rain on C&C and they end up at the Bore-A-Nation stinking like large wet hound dogs in their ermine robs.
Doorknobs, I say. (I’m cutting down on my potty mouth)
Kaiser, your comment that “the Middleton clan are hopping in their jalopy and goin’ to the Clowning, Clampett-style” absolutely made my week! I actually hadn’t planned to watch the Coronation but all the hilarious commentary on this site has inspired me to join in the cackling on Saturday.
I gasped. Such horrible dresses. Pippa is wearing a 1960s little girl dress and Carole’s dress is just embarrassing. Surely she can afford a properly fitted bra.