It’s fascinating to watch how one direct statement from Prince Harry’s spokesperson has the whole royal establishment completely panicked and doing furious damage control. All Harry did was say that he’s not meeting with his father during his trip and it’s because of Charles’s full schedule. That’s it. Harry was even nice about it. But we can tell that Harry must have called his father’s bluff and that’s because Buckingham Palace has been leaking like a sieve ever since. Palace insiders clearly ran straight to Richard Kay at the Daily Mail to spill certain details: Harry didn’t “formally” ask for a meeting with Charles; Harry should have come earlier in the week when Charles’s schedule wasn’t so full of busy-work; and finally, that Harry didn’t even request to stay at a royal property during his visit. That last one is shocking, that the palace is leaking that kind of information. But that’s not all – it’s looks like palace insiders also ran to Charlotte Griffiths, also at the Daily Mail, with a hilarious story about how Harry told his father his terms and Charles couldn’t handle it.
King Charles’ decision not to meet Prince Harry during his son’s UK trip this week came after a round of “difficult” negotiations, according to a royal expert.
According to royal commentator Charlotte Griffiths, the monarch’s decision may have been swayed by “certain demands” from Harry.
“There is some talk that behind the scenes, a lot of negotiating went on,” Griffiths told GB News. “I think the reason was because Harry made certain demands about who could be in the room and who couldn’t. Although on the surface it looks like a snub, Harry made it very difficult for his father.”
When asked to elaborate on the demands, Griffiths said “other forces” could’ve influenced the King’s decision.
“Maybe other forces were driving Charles’s position on this,” she said. “William may have had a thought about how this meeting should be conducted or whether it should be conducted at all. We know that Charles likes to meet Harry with Camilla in the room which isn’t always a popular decision,” she continued. “Harry was without his wife as well, so this was fraught with difficulty.”
The Duke’s rep on Tuesday said that a meeting between the estranged father and son duo “will not be possible due to His Majesty’s full program.”
[From The NY Post]
LMAO – palace insiders crying about Harry telling his father that he would only meet with Charles if they could speak alone, with no Camilla in the room, no Clive Alderton, no leakers. That seemed to be Harry’s terms for meeting Charles back in February too, because Camilla kicked up a HUGE fuss about how she was left out of the room (you know she was listening at the door though). It says a lot that Charles made it happen in February, probably because Harry’s trip came together so quickly, but he couldn’t do it this time. Camilla must have been loudly neighing her disapproval and the king’s courtiers were beside themselves with worry. Can’t believe they’d all tell on themselves to this level too. Oh, Harry didn’t want anyone to leak a potential meeting with his father, so Camilla and the courtiers decided to leak everything about the negotiations?
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He’s a whole ass 75 year old man and the King. If he can’t meet with his son alone he shouldn’t be working in this capacity. Why would his brother or stepmother need to be in the room, other than to throw fits about any apologies or concessions or get information to feed to the tabloids? And I guess they realize how petty they appear to the rest of the world since now it’s all ” oh no he didn’t snub him, Harry made it too hard to meet!”. Just like everything with Meghan it REALLY messes with their heads that they won’t twist themselves into pretzels for acknowledgement and are perfectly fine with being like, ok guess I’ll see you when I see you.
Charles is too scared to be in a room alone with his own son because then they might have a real, honest conversation between two adults. Instead Charles needs buffers, fluffers and an itemized-to-the-minute schedule because it protects him from the awkward messiness of real life.
He’s such a god damn baby. He couldn’t even handle a pen not working for a minute.
I laughed so hard at this AI voiceover of his pen tantrum. https://youtu.be/Rj5OlUMWGs4?si=ikKSCxtGLWM1f1NV
“Being King is f*cking bollocks.” is where I lost it.
Thank you for posting this!
Whoever edited this video deserves an award, the script and lip movements were perfectly synchronized.
Honestly, they are as dumb as a box of hair. If they had a working brain cell between themselves, Chuck could’ve said: “Of *course* dear boy (barf!), it will be just you and I”, and either have a nanny cam or recorder taping the whole thing for the horse to digest over her oats and gin.
But again, “working brain cell” and “royal” are oxymorons lol
But is it about having proof of the interaction or is it about being scared to face your son? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Hard to say…
All this explaining just tells me how effective Harry’s statement was. It landed like a BOMB in the Palace 🤣🤣🤣
It’s really so interesting how the BM trivialize Charles. As you say, he’s the King. I don’t see what difference it makes whether Camilla is in the room or not – Charles will tell Camilla everything afterward, anyway. And really, what is it that people are expecting from a meeting between Charles and Harry? Harry’s not coming back and Charles doesn’t want him back. The most would be “Hey Dad, how are you? I’m fine, and you? ” – that can be taken care of in a phone call.
It is a matter of being tactful. Something Camilla is not.
Hooray for therapy teaching healthy boundaries!
Did y’all know the first (and only other) Duke of Sussex was the same rebellious type as the current? He was an anti-slavery aboltionist, Parliamentary reformist, Catholic emancipation and Jewish civil rights activist. He actively supported the Dissenters.
Interesting, he sounds a decent chap, unlike his elder brother, coincidence?
Yep, he was also a rebel who married without permission, and so they skipped over him (and others in the line of succession) when it came time to name the next heir and went to Queen Victoria instead! They literally kept the crown from him on account of the Royal Marriages Act of 1772 and didn’t consider his marriage “legitimate.”
He was a great thorn in the side of the British royal family by fighting for basic civil rights for himself and oppressed people.
As with the case of the second Duke of Sussex, the monarchy worked hard to separate the first Duke of Sussex from his wives and ruin his marriages. The monarchy manage to succeed both times. #financialdependancy?
When they tried to pull the same game on Prince Harry, they miss calculated. They did not know he was made of sterner stuff, and his wife was much more resourceful.
Old games don’t work when new players are more savvy and have other options.
The first Duke of Sussex was not separated from his second wife. Queen Victoria gave her the title Duchess of Inverness, and she continued to live in Kensington Palace after he died in 1843. She is buried next to him.
They didn’t skip over anyone to make Victoria Queen. Her late father was the 4th of George III’s sons but the previous 3 died without leaving surviving children. The Duke of Sussex was the 6th son and there was also a fifth son whose surviving heir became the King of Hanover because Victoria wasn’t eligible. The Duke of Sussex wasn’t estranged from his family and was Victoria’s favorite uncle. He gave her away when she married.
I’ll be frank. If my parent was dying of cancer I sure as hell dont need to talk to them in a room full of other people listening to my heart to heart!!
This is what H meant when he said “I want a FAMILY; not an institution.”
So if chucky and bully are unable to wipe their own arse without their handlers present in the room with them, H will never ever meet with them. He already said he doesnt expect it to happen.
This sounds like when Harry would visit the Queen. She supposedly had burner phones so he could reach her. Now it sounds that Peg and Horsilla don’t want Harry to talk to Chuckles without them being there.
Yep I’ve seen this in my extended family. a stepmother who won’t let her husband speak to his kids without her present, and even then she keeps a timer on.
Some people are too sick to function as parents.
So the DM reporter is saying that on the surface it looks like a snub. So there’s some awareness of how bad this snub looks. But blaming the snub on Charles giving in to his waste of an heir, his overbearing wife and his conniving courtiers only makes him look like a weak king and a weak father. If Charles wanted to be alone in a room with harry, he would have been. Maybe he’s afraid. Or he’s just a pos. But he should own the decision rather than blaming it on others.
It’s kind of funny to see them acknowledge this is a snub from Charles and then try to spin it and they really can’t. Charles isn’t that busy and everyone knows it. Harry’s statement really threw them off here.
I love that Harry’s statement threw them off so much. Clearly, they were getting too comfortable and forgot that Harry will go on record when necessary.
These people.
All that education, experience, appointed by God? and they continue to make such poor decisions.
Do they sit and strategize?
Do they realize that once it involves Harry they are no longer speaking to just the old, white, racist, classist, monarchist who will see nothing wrong with their actions?
They are not speaking to people who will say yes, the king is right.
They need some serious help. They and their advisers are a group of unserious people…sigh
It really speaks to Charles’s lack of backbone and character that he so closely aligns himself with Camilla and Will-not. Is it really a good look to coddle an abusive, bully heir and scheming wife whilest clearly alienating his “spare” child? Is Cuckold a good image for a king? What a weak, sad little man charles truly is. No wonder Harry seemed more angry with his brother in Spare. Charles has no grit and everyone knows it.
It doesn’t sound like just Camilla though from this article. William “may have had a thought” about the meeting, “Charles likes to have Camilla in the room” etc – basically it sounds like this royal commentator is just speculating based on what we heard happened in January.
I think much like with QEII, this is just about restricting Harry’s access and from Clive to Camilla to William on down, no one wanted Charles alone with Harry. Why, he might say something nice to Harry!
Or he might tell the truth about his conversation with Kate about Archie.
When the famous convo or contretemps occurred, Archie was NOT born yet! Can we please reference this situation more accurately. Meghan was pregnant with her and Harry’s first child. No one knew the future child’s name or gender at that point. There were unnecessary meddling and racist “concerns about what the unborn child might look like; how dark the child’s skin might be and what that might mean for the snobbish, cruel, vile, out-of-touch British monarchy.
In any case, Chuck would not be needing to tell Harry the truth about the incident. Harry actually knows the identities of the parties who broached the despicable conversation with him. Harry went on record during the Oprah interview confirming that the incident happened and that the comments were made directly to him without Meghan being present, and that he later told her about it. Harry also told Oprah he had no plans to dwell on the incident nor to ever publicly reveal the identities of the persons who had the conversation with him.
IMHO, as described by H&M, the conversations took place more than once and involved indications that the Sussex offspring might not be allowed to receive their rightfully due royal titles. Meg’s main worry was over the fact that without royal titles, her and Harry’s children would not receive royal protection. In my view, the conversations were started by William with Harry before the Sussex marriage, as a way to persuade Harry to nix the marriage plans and quit his relationship with Meghan. It didn’t work. Harry was undeterred; his love for Meghan remained steadfast and unflinching.
Furthermore (based on what H&M said to Oprah), the conversations began again in earnest after Meghan’s first pregnancy was announced. At that point, I believe it was William and Chuck (bestirred by Camz’s musings re a grandchild with a ‘ginger Afro’) who spoke directly with Harry. And with Willy’s and Chuck’s courtiers also involved. After-the-fact, it was simply Chuck and Kate who were positioned to take the fall for Camz and Willy. Although, obviously, Kate and Chuck did hold similar sentiments to Willy and Camz.
Sometimes I hang out with my family members individually, sometimes I hang out with them in various groupings. More proof this family is so fucking weird. There is nothing nefarious about someone wanting to visit with their dad solo when they don’t see him very often. And why is it weird that Meghan isn’t there? I usually hang out with my mom without my SO.
Interestingly, both my parents refused our (the kids) requests to see them individually.
My father went as far to say “I live my life for (wife) now”
Needless, I don’t see any of them anymore at all.
Families are strange.
Again another spin! I am getting dizzy with all the spinning.
And all the “may have been swayed”, “some talk”, “I think”, “could’ve influenced”, “maybe other forces”, “William may have had”, “should be” hints either she does not know or she is afraid to say too much and KP and BP come after her, making her taking back what she said.
In all these stories, you can replace all the bits of waffle wording – “may have”, “could have”, “should be”, “it is thought”, “some experts”, etc. – with “ALERT:” and strike out everything behind it, and what’s left is the real substance of the article.
Which will all boil down to a couple of irrefutable facts like “Harry is coming to England” and “water is wet” or something.
So ironic, the way the rats are always making up shit about Meghan controlling Harry (despite the fact that she has been incredibly understanding of the fact that it’s difficult for her husband to cut out his father — his only suriviving parent — completely), and yet this is the SECOND story we’ve heard today about a member of the royal leftovers dictating whom their spouse is or isn’t allowed to see.
It’s always projection with these people. Always.
When harry met chucky back in february, chucky probably agreed to harry’s terms (private meeting) because he wanted to ask harry to return for a few months to do royal work. Chuck probable thought not having cowmilla in sight might make harry more agreeable. Chucky will only meet with harry when he needs something from him because he is a dog sh!t father.
He has no use for harry and he doesn’t care about reconciliation or being forgiven by Harry.
Good points.
My dad is no king, LOL, but when my step mother came on the scene, she also made it impossible to hang out with my dad 1:1. She had to insert herself into absolutely everything, despite the obvious fact that I didn’t actually have a relationship with her. It made me stop seeing my dad as often. Maybe that was intentional. This Charles and Camilla situation seems like that times 1000. I can relate to Harry. 😔
Same thing happened with my grandfather and his 2nd wife! After she came on the scene, you could never really have a conversation with him without her being present. I think this is incredibly common, for whatever reason.
It is incredibly common. I have two ex sister in laws who felt, when they married, they were entitled to control their hustbands. It worked for awhile.
I can totally relate, i could never get a one on one meeting with my Dad with out his wife butting in, even when i’d call home to speak to him he hand the phone over to her. in the end i stopped calling him. on our last coversation he told me he loved me , and i was like Huh what do i do with that after his treatment and refusal to stand up to his wife. when he died my cosin told me he grew up exactly like me so he was repeating the pattern
Charles has opinions based on the opinion of the last person he talked with, according to a courtier years ago. Translation: he is easily swayed by those closest around him who have the most access. ( Camilla).
Prince Philip said pretty much the same thing.
I hope he outlasts her, then.
Bless all their hearts 💕
“Maybe, May & We Know” are All doing some very heavy lifting in what seems to be very speculative opinion. I still think this is being driven by the BM . They want the meeting more than others on this trip as they want to be the principals of these stories to go on international news outlets as experts – dining out on this all month.
I hope KC do a reset on media relations and remove the RR and just allow journalists with expertise in respective fields of focus – the coverage would be so much deeper and of quality than what their rotas are giving them. They may think it’s easier to blame Harry but it is not him, these journalists want the reconciliation on their own terms to deflect from their role in causing this division and of course so they can start making money again. I hope if they reconcile it’s done in very very private setting and no one hears about it until the bonds have been given time to reset.
Healing energy to Harry, Meghan, KC et. al.
The Royal Rota has jumped hte shark. There are too many of them, and they have gotten to the point that they make stuff up out of whole cloth. Can’t have that. I hope Chuckie at least manages to do that.
@S2S, some hurts are beyond being healed. Obviously, what goes on (and what has gone on historically 😱🫣) in this over one-thousand-year-old institution is quite toxic, messy, and complicated. Suffice to say, in recent years, the toxicity has been mind-boggling and unfixable. With the media in the mix, the damage is irreparably reprehensible.
Most damaging of all is that Chuck lacks wisdom and leadership. But luckily for H&M, “the wound is where the light enters you.” — Rumi
My guess is that Harry either directly or through his reps let it be known that he’d be in the country and would like to check in with his father privately if he was available and the courtiers weren’t having that so they said the king was busy and Harry just said ‘ok’ and moved on and they were shocked because they thought his reply would be him begging for a meeting and asking what he could do to make it happen and now they don’t what to do because they weren’t expecting him to confirm no meeting in such a diplomatic way They thought he’d either be emotiona about it l or too embarrassed to say anything- thus allowing them to lie with no pushback like they tried to do with the Jobson article that came out a few hours before Archewell’s statement. Womp womp.
Exactly.
@Chelsea – you got in one! Now they’re doing their best to try and salvage something from the mess they created (and failing miserably). To be this petty when Harry is over here to celebrate the 10 year anniversary of the IGs has made KCIII look terrible and they know it.
I’d love to know the protocol. Was Harry supposed to send a letter engraved in gold? What counts as a formal request in their world?
Your post makes me wonder too of the men in black didn’t mislead Charles as well about Harry’s request.
Now Charles looks like a weak fool played by his wife and son. Oh well.
Harry: I’d love to meet up. But you can’t bring your horse.
Charles: But I always bring my horse!
Harry: Well this time, you can’t. I would love to spend a few minutes with you alone.
Charles: This is a massive inconvenience and unduly burdensome on the horse! Because the meeting is to take place at the exact time of day that I brush my horse and clean its hooves! What am I supposed to do?
Harry: Leave the horse in the stable. Drop off some apples before the meeting. Maybe brush the horse after the meeting.
Charles throws a pen. Advisers scurry away terrified. THEN THERE WILL BE NO MEETING! I’M THE KING!!! Sips a juice box. Nuzzles with Camilla.
Sips a juice box! 😂😂😂😂😂
So ‘Harry didn’t make a formal request to meet with the king’ was an admitted lie, thanks for telling on yourselves. Harry may forgive a slight, but he will carry on a grudge on behalf of his mother. The son who makes Diana proud!
I saw that GB News clip last night. It’s clear that Charlotte Griffiths has no idea what’s going on. She admitted that the Palace briefed the press that Harry was going to meet with Charles and she was puzzled as to what happened between last week and yesterday. The part about Camilla is her just speculating because the Palace gave assurances that the meeting was going to take place. I don’t believe Harry was making any demands but the response he got to his query about meeting with his father told him that it wouldn’t be possible because of his father’s schedule. All these additional scenarios are being thrown out there because this makes Charles look bad.
My theory during all the HARRY WANTS TO STAY AT WINDSOR AND WE WON’T LET HIM! HA HA Was actually, Harry never asked. All those previous visits when I read posts here saying Harry wanted to stay on a royal property, I knew they were false. He does not want to be around those people. He has options!
He can afford to stay at a nice place, nicer than any of those tatty old palaces or castles or houses.
Harry-not-the-sharpest-sword certainly outplayed Charles and the courtiers on this one. As he has on so many other occasions.
The ninny Charles is no match for the ninja Harry.
I think the only part of this article that I believe is the part where they say he didn’t make a ‘formal’ request. He probably asked if KFC would be available for a meeting, but didn’t put it in writing in triplicate to whatever palace employee that is the keeper of whatever. KFC said he didn’t have time, and Harry said okay.
I doubt Harry put any conditions on this except that there would be NO leaks. That’s it.
Does anyone in the UK bm ever think about how this looks? All they had to do was just keep quiet. The damage was already done when Harry announced there wouldn’t be a meeting. Now, they’re making it worse. Well, at least they’re consistent.
Yikes! That picture of Camilla defines evil. She’s a scary woman and obviously plays for keeps.
So to appease the hamgers on he missed out on facetiming with Archie and Lillibet and wishing archie a happy birthday. this man is going to lie on his death bead with his like flashing before his eyes showing all his missteps and be hugely regretful.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Harry has no direct access to Charles and is always forced to go through courtiers. However, in my mind, Harry would request a meeting with his father, not an audience with the king. However, Charles and the palace do not differentiate between the two, so Harry is just acknowledging that through his press release. When Charles dies, I think it will probably be more unsafe for Harry to be in the UK with the new incandescent throne sitter.
I wonder if this can be taken to suggest Chucky is in fact recovering well and maybe not in immediate danger of dying — perhaps if he was in fact terminal, he might actually find time for his son on that “busy” schedule of his?
Carole Malone was foaming at the mouth on the Jeremy Vine show today denouncing Harry for expecting to visit his own father. She looked and sounded demented. 50/50 on public phone in afterwards but I felt revolted by her batsh!t antics. Charles is head of CE and Christianity is inclusive and about reaching out to everyone. I am very disappointed in Charles not accepting Harry ‘s request and meeting his own son.
Write them a letter. The British public can end this horrible RR business, ifi they speak out against it. These RR people are just horrible nasty people. They should have to earn an honest living like everyone else.
Jeremy Vine is such an establishment tool. He cuts of guests that counter the royal propaganda and constantly says misleading mistruths, never representing things quite as they are. He’ll push back and cut off guests with valid pro-sussex statements and let royalists like Carole run at the mouth. It actually makes me ill and all I see is clips on Twitter.
I don’t blame Harry, but is Camilla the scapegoat for Charles, who doesn’t want to deal with Harry? He’s proven himself to be the biggest wuss there is.
I just saw that the Spencer family attended the event today to support Harry. They know Harry is doing Diana’s work.
The Spencer’s are the real family and they give Archie and Lily affection and love that they don’t get from Charles William and kate
The Spencer’s are the real royal family. And they’re more blue blood than the Windsors.
It makes sense that Charles would refuse to meet Harry if Harry was insisting that Camilla is not in the room in the context of Meghan refusing to come to England, Harry not bringing the children to visit and Harry trashing Camilla in his book and to the press.
How can harry take the children over there without his wife and their mother and to relatives that snubbed the children. Harry did not trash Camilla he showed a lot of restraint and reported certain events that involved him directly.
This is how people become estranged from their family members. People’s feelings get hurt and family members are forced to pick sides. You can be a fan of Harry without pretending that he hasn’t taken a blowtorch to his relationships with Charles, Camilla, William and Kate. And that’s his choice, but don’t be surprised that things are awkward now.
Rhonda the queen approved Harry s marriage to Meghan. Apparently Charles did not object. William made things uncomfortable for Meghan and harry trying to interfere saying he should not rush into things. If course harry would side with Meghan not his brother. William pushed him to take sides. Harry was appalled at how Meghan was treated by the media and for good reason. Charles told him to ignore it. Harry did make a statement the. False stories about Meghan were not denied by Kate et,al. The relationship of harry with his brother was not good. I think harry s birth family took the proverbial blow torch not harry. Charles took away their security and their UK house. Harry and Meghan did the right thing
I feel bad for Harry for being born into the royal family, being hounded by the press, being emotionally neglected by his mother and his father during their divorce, his mother’s death, and not getting more guidance and support when he wanted to live a life on his own terms, partially outside the royal family and then not being given all the security necessary when he was born into this situation and deserves the protection while on British soil. But he has also hurt family members with things said and insinuated in his book and in the media. You may hate William but he was also victimized in all the same ways Harry was but people don’t seem to have any sympathy for him. You can be a fan of Harry without insisting that he’s perfect and that Charles has no right to be upset.
Rhonda, Rhonda, Rhonda….
I read in Spare what Harry said about Camilla. He went way too easy on her. He could have said much worse.
Rhonda Diana never neglected either of her sons.
“May,” “Maybe,” and “could’ve” are doing a lot of heavy lifting here!
Well, I guess Chuckles prefers to go to his grave “snubbing” Harry. What a legacy! Resented his first wife for being popular. Refused to rein in his sociopathic heir. Installed his sidepiece as queen. Took away the Sussexes’ security and evicted them from Frogmore Cottage. Never forgave Harry for marrying a non-white American and making a family with her. And not even cancer has Charles changing course.
Too bad Charles couldn’t rise above his feelings of inadequacy and his racism. Things might’ve been so different.
History will make mincemeat of your spineless, useless, petty reign, Chuckles. 🤡
I love this for you.
Harry is his mother’s true son in every way-When the Sussex spokesperson make a statement that will be the correct and accurate -no guessing no lies no leaking -to the point and that’s it-take it or leave it-a child whether small tot or an adult person has a right to talk to his/her parent in private-Camilla is not his mother-she is the woman married to his father that is the entire ball of wax-if Harry wants to talk only to his father with noone else present-that is what a family should be about-not his brother-not his step-mother-not the courtiers and not the tabloids.
^^ Exactly! 💯 Concise, precise, right-on, and to-the-point accurate. 🎯
Thank you for articulating this so well.
And thanks to you as well @Beverley for your comments. 🫡