Mail: Prince William still depends on Carole Middleton to manage his life & marriage

Carole and Michael Middleton made a grand re-entrance into the upper echelon of British society this week, almost a year exactly since their business collapsed into insolvency and with it, their whole flimsy house of cards. They were exposed as grifters who defrauded the government and small businesses out of millions of pounds. Not only that, we can now see that the Middletons were always lying about the success of Party Pieces and lying about their finances. They were never rich, they never “made millions” off of a catalog company selling party kits.

Even before Party Pieces went belly up, I had felt, for years, that Prince William had distanced himself from the Middletons. The shift happened in 2021, when William told Kate that she wasn’t allowed at the Diana-statue unveiling and suddenly there was a month of blind panic from Camp Middleton as they tried in vain to keep William in line through briefs to friendly royal commentators. When Party Pieces collapsed last year, I thought it was the final nail in the Middletons’ coffin. They would never be allowed in these coveted, elite spaces again. Not only that, but the Middletons’ decades of lies weakened Kate’s position in the royal family – she has even less support and power now that her parents have been so thoroughly exposed.

So imagine my surprise when William went out of his way to get photographed with Carole and Michael at Ascot this week. Not only were the Middletons welcomed at Ascot, there are tons of photos of William with Carole, helping her with her shoe and welcoming her into the Royal Enclosure. Whatever happened, whatever deal was worked out in the past six months, it involved a Middleton Image Rehabilitation. Speaking of, the Mail is pulling from their archived reporting for a new piece about how William and Carole are so, so close. As I said, it genuinely felt like he was keeping the Midds at arm’s length for about three or four years. But yeah, that has changed. Now we’re back to getting stories about how Carole orchestrated William and Kate’s whole relationship and how William used to rest his head in Carole’s lap or whatever.

When Carole Middleton’s heel got stuck in the grass at Royal Ascot yesterday, it was fitting that it was her beloved son-in-law who came to the rescue. Prince William offered a helping hand to ‘second mum’ Carole as she steadied herself before the pair chatted jovially among other guests. The natural moment, caught in a charming set of photographs, was a touching reminder of the close bond that the Prince has forged with the Middletons – and in particular, matriarch Carole. She has fondly watched him blossom from the young, occasionally hot-headed Prince to the loyal husband, father and King-in-waiting he is today.

The Prince of Wales is said to have ‘adopted’ the Middleton family soon after he started dating Kate in the early 2000s – and Carole is now an indispensable part of the Wales’ close-knit family unit. She enjoys making Prince William his favourite snack of cheese on toast and stocks up on the sea salt chocolates that he likes.

This is evidenced by how she made herself constantly available to the family when Kate was expecting Princess Charlotte. She spent many days living with them at Anmer Hall – their home on the Sandringham estate that they swapped for Adelaide Cottage in Windssor in 2022. Carole sourced the fabrics and wallpapers for the family’s nursery and would make William his favourite snack of cheese on toast, which he would eat in front of the television. She also stocked up on the Prince’s favourite sea salt chocolates.

According to one source, Kate and William formed an ‘insular unit’ with Carole and her husband Michael. They added: ‘You could say that Kate and William, unlike most couples with a set of in-laws, feel most at their ease and happiest with her parents around. Tensions dissipate and there’s a party atmosphere.’

Carole was also said to help William decide what he should wear to engagements. Another source said of William’s love for Carole: ‘He is in thrall to her capabilities, her tenacity, high-energy levels, her superb organisational skills and her networking. She above anyone else knows what makes Kate happy, what type of staff she will gel with, and understands her overriding need for loyalty and privacy. Carole leaves nothing to chance.’

[From The Daily Mail]

The fact that Kate and William are still fine with letting people know that they’ve spent their entire relationship being managed and mothered by Carole is something else. This is one of the reasons why Prince Harry was such an advocate for therapy too – these people really need to unpack a lot of their issues and learn how to do things for themselves. Anyway, the Middletons are back and the British media has seemingly gotten orders to not discuss Party Pieces or fraud or how the Middletons screwed over people and left financial catastrophes in their wake.

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  1. MaryContrary says:

    That saccharine article is so badly written it mentions the cheese toast and sea salt chocolates twice.

    • Anonymous says:

      THIS is the over the top, ridiculous Middleton embiggening campaign I was expecting in January when Kate was “in the hospital”. It took six months but it is apparent that all is well again with Kate and whatever negotiating had William and KP in a frantic tizzy is over and the deal is done.

      William doesn’t like to toe the line so I’ll be interested to see how long his good behavior lasts. Maybe he only agreed to a one-time, short-term effort because I don’t see this working out for the Midds as the new normal. Whatever they had on him is baaaaaaad.

      • Interested Gawker says:

        “THIS is the over the top, ridiculous Middleton embiggening campaign I was expecting in January when Kate was “in the hospital”.”

        “Whatever they had on him is baaaaaaad.”

        Hard agree.

    • DK says:

      It’s also only talking about the time Carole lived with them at Anmer when Kate was pregnant with Charlotte – isn’t Chalotte 9?

      Like, what editor was like “yes, let’s run this decade-old story that regurgitates stuff we’ve already told! What a scoop!”

      Side note: I love how it says they “swapped” Anmer Hall for Adelaide Cottage, as though it were an actual swap or trade, not the reality, “Anmer Hall, their massive home on the Sandringham Estate, though they have since also acquired an expensive and massive home in Kensington Palace in London and a stately home at Adelaide Cottage in Windsor Castle since then.”

  2. Linney says:

    So the grown man needs mummy-in-law to pick his clothes? And we are back to the cheese toast? This article makes William look like a complete fool and Kate a helpless dolt. In addition, Carole comes across as an interfering, pain in the ass. Sorry, but I’m not feeling the love…

    • SarahCS says:

      ‘This article makes William look like a complete fool and Kate a helpless dolt.’

      So pretty accurate then!

  3. equality says:

    PW is in his 40’s and can’t make his own cheesy toast? Or Kate can’t? Carole “above anyone else knows what makes Kate happy”? Wouldn’t Kate know what makes her happy? Or is she not allowed to decide for herself? And why wouldn’t it now be her husband who knows what makes Kate happy? Does Carole manage their sex life also? Do they realize how highly odd this sounds?

    • Tina says:

      Right????? My goodness. My husband adores my mother and they get along very well but the way they describe William and Carole’s relationship is downright creepy. Is this just the Mail poking at William and Kate again under the guise of a positive article? Why can’t these two adults in their 40s manage their own life?

    • HeatherC says:

      Carole knows what makes Kate happy because she tells Kate what makes her happy.

      • Anna says:

        Kate is a flawed person and I share the opinion of most here. But she also never had a chance – since childhood managed by Carole, who I am sure very carefully never gave her even a bit space to breathe and think independently, find out what she wants from life. Then from Carole straight to most oppressive institution, and still under Carol’s influence. She must be extremely lost personally. I wonder if she experiences moments of dissonance when she get what “she” wants and still feels sth is not right.

      • Dilettante says:

        My thoughts exactly

      • Nic919 says:

        Many children have dysfunctional childhoods and manage to work through it. Kate’s brother in law Harry is an example of someone who experienced a far more traumatic childhood and he’s not a puppet to his father’s wishes, who has significant institutional power at his fingertips.

        And kate was perfectly fine with being an awful bitch to her sister law, permitting the media to attack her to this day.

        So I don’t feel bad for Kate. She needs to grow up.

    • Christine says:

      It’s the “in thrall” that’s doing it, for me. That’s one hell of a loaded term, and about his mother in law? Gross.

      • Jais says:

        Lordy, I didn’t even catch that and had to go back and look. Huh. Would thrall be considered something like bewitched? Cuz that’s almost implying that Carole is William’s Meghan. Since the BM love to say Meghan has bewitched Harry🙄. Or maybe carole is his Camilla?

      • Eurydice says:

        I actually shouted out loud – “In THRALL?!!”

      • Liz says:

        Charles apparently ‘tried out’ both Diana’s sisters. I wouldn’t be surprised if William did the same over the years with all 3 Middleton women. And yes – it’s gross 🫢

      • Tessa says:

        Liz. jane was never interested in Charles. She and the queens courtier fellow es fell in love and married. Charles had no chance with her. Sarah dated Charles when she was on the rebound from the duke of Westminster who broke up with her. Sarah said publicity she was not interested in Charles and he was like a brother to her. Sarah and Charles broke up and she later married a cousin of her stepmother. Sarah and Jane both achieved happy marriages.

      • The Hench says:

        The Windsor men do have form for falling in love with unsuitable/homely women that they then absolutely refuse to give up, no matter the devastation it causes or the price that they pay. We saw it with the Duke of Windsor and Wallis Simpson, with Charles and Camilla and now could it be that William is actually in love with Carole more than he is with Kate?

      • Nic919 says:

        As with everything Carole does, she doesn’t know when to stop and this article I am sure will be relayed to William who will be pissed.

        This is a temporary detente but William will get what he wants in the end. And it doesn’t involve Carole.

      • Becks1 says:

        That part killed me. Who is “in thrall” to their mother in law who ran a business into bankruptcy? Who micromanages her adult daughter’s life?

      • Lorelei says:

        @Christine, same! It made me slightly nauseous tbh

    • Zapp Brannigan says:

      “Does Carole manage their sex life also?”

      Great now I have that image in my mind;

      Kate, you lie back dear, nighty up that’s right.
      William, I am now going to guide you into Kate, there’s a good king in waiting.
      Do you want the light on or off?
      You are doing so well William, bravo old chap, good show!


      • TheHufflepuffLizLemon says:

        Welp, there goes my appetite.

      • Liz says:

        Yes Tessa – Diana’s sisters had happy marriages because they didn’t marry Charles.

        The rf like to keep it in the family – Anne canoodling with Camilla’s ex.

        As one of the toffs said – they’ve at some point all ‘boffed’ each other.

        Whether they say it was platonic or not.

      • Nic919 says:

        There is a story where after a lengthy break up, Carole supposedly offered up use of the master bedroom for William and Kate to use. I don’t know if it is in the Katie Nicholl book or somewhere else, but yes Carole did try to manage that.

      • Lorelei says:

        @Zapp ☠️

        @Nic, seriously? She offered them CarolE and Mike’s own bedroom? WTAF? (Also, being in your parents’ bed might bring about some thoughts that would not necessarily put one in “the mood”- too horrified thinking about what had gone on there…)

      • CrystalBall says:

        @Zapp Brannigan: thanks for the laugh re

        “Does Carole manage their sex life also?”

        Great now I have that image in my mind;

        Kate, you lie back dear, nighty up that’s right … ” etc.

        PLEASE can you write a scene of Carole managing the sick room? 🙏🏼

    • Cairidh says:

      Carole would give up her own master bedroom/suite that she’d been staying in, whenever William came to stay with them either at their home or a holiday house they were letting. So that William and Kate could stay in it together. She’d go out and buy new bedding for the room and fill it with scented candles and flowers. Williams favourite expensive wine. No doubt she did more than that…. Advice on lingerie to buy, how to please his star sign etc.

      • Feeshalori says:

        I’ve heard those stories and she sounds no better than a procurer for her daughter preparing the best room in the brothel.

      • Unblinkered says:

        There was a UK tv series called The Windsors, a spoof and very very funny, but real life has now far outrun and out-written it. The Middletons were portrayed as gypsies, Carol domineering and rough as…. W&K as a pair of simpletons.

        There’s no way William has reconciled with them, what we’ve seen this last week is an agreed deal. There’s more to come, but it’s still two weeks before the UK General Election so they’ll all fade into the background – until mid July.

  4. The Hench says:

    Wow. William sounds childishly incompetent and Kate comes across as someone who needs careful, constant management to keep her ‘happy’ aka stable.

    • Berkeleyfarm says:

      It seems like Carole has very much “managed” Kate her whole life and Kate didn’t really successfully launch as a functional, independent adult. Either because she didn’t really wanna (all those details are sooo boring) or she just wasn’t assertive enough to make a break because Carole bulldozed her when she tried.

      This whole “Carole moved into Anmer and ran the place” was 100% when she was supposed to be Girl Bossing Party Pieces. Instead she was checking paint chips (etc) and making cheese toasts on demand.

      • Normal Islander says:

        There’s a lot of hearsay that Kate basically can’t do anything without direction, people who have met her at official engagements saying she needed to be told who to talk to, what questions to ask, even what direction to walk in.

        I suspect part of the problem is that she has been coddled and directed her whole life and failed to launch because she was never allowed to. I also suspect that as Kate is lazy and not very bright this is simply not something she was ever motivated to try to fight. She always seemed happy with never having to think too much about anything, until of course Will played away and she suddenly wasn’t.

    • WithTheAmerican says:

      That’s it, both Willy and Kate are incompetent and unstable. Maybe this is why the press treats them like waving is the biggest achievement ever.

    • Jais says:

      Honestly, the fact that they’re saying the Wales are happiest when Carole is around is really something. Not just happy but at their happiest when Carole is around bc then the tensions can dissipate. Wow, that’s revealing. So on their own it’s just a whole lot of tension. Yeah, that was evident in the car and on the balcony.

    • Dilettante says:

      I guess the author hit the nail on the head.

  5. Brassy Rebel says:

    “Carole leaves nothing to chance.” Except her bills, apparently.

  6. Tessa says:

    That cheese toast again. No William is not loyal and is still hotheaded

  7. The Duchess says:

    Whatever deal has been made, Willy has been done dirty. No wonder he’s in a constant rage all the time. Pushy in-law’s, a wife he can’t stand, a brother he will never measure towards and a father he can’t wait to see croak. He deserves it all.

    I find the timing of Kitty’s return to public life and the Middleton’s suddenly rearing their ugly heads again to be very interesting. Now we’re suddenly getting articles like these after 6 months of silence? Oh dear.

  8. Carol Mengel says:

    I don’t mean to sound dumb, but you’ve been referencing something going on behind the scenes these past 6 months. Do y’all believe that Wills will get his divorce in the next 2 years in exchange for making nice with the Mids right now? Or is there more to it?

    • KgS says:

      I think he’s laid the groundwork to oust kitty and her family without her making a big fuss. I have a feeling the missing kate and face-lift reappearance is her last chance as a couple. All of his most recent media is single dad willy. I think they’ll say the stress of the job and Kate’s inability to continue is why they’re separating. They’ll say kate believes the UK deserves a queen who can perform the duties and she can’t. Will gets to be the selfless king in waiting who sacrificed his marriage for duty, while she is a martyr. He pays her off and her family’s debts off, and gets out of his inconvenient marriage. Again, I don’t see them staying married for much longer.

      • Jais says:

        I don’t know what will happen but agree that if they do want a divorce their best bet is to do some sort of conscious uncoupling vibe. As in everyone is happy and friends and deciding together this is what they want. But even for that, William would still need to come across as kinder towards Kate in public for that to be believable.

      • Saucy&Sassy says:

        KgS, I agree with you. As I read this article, I kept wondering who is behind this? Was it the Escort? Or, is this just the writer putting stuff out there that is very eyebrow raising worthy?

        I tend to think that part of the deal for Bone Idle appearing in public is that the brf had to play nice with the Mids. I somehow don’t see the aristos also playing along. That should be interesting to watch.

        I’m not convinced that Bone Idle wants to continue in the marriage. I think she would be quite happy be out of the public eye–as long as she gets the settlement she wants.

  9. Berkeleyfarm says:

    I guess the Fail is taking Carole’s calls/emails again?

    Sounds like some sort of settlement has been reached.

    I also can’t help but think “well we covered up what happened with Kate successfully so we can cover up for the Midds as well”.

  10. MY3CENTS says:

    So I’m guessing Carole knows where the bodies are buried (or were comatosed).

    • Well-Wisher says:

      William wants to be free, secrets and arrangements can prohibit this idea, until
      it cannot…
      Kate should cut the apron strings …..move on, divorce and find love that does not
      include entrapment…
      After all she is the mother of a future king, reclaim her dignity and let that be
      Now set boundaries for Carole…..

  11. Selene says:

    Me thinks he just needs a mother figure, one who like his mother (not comparing the two God forbid) gets down to the domesticity and regular-ness of it all. This is something that neither QEII, Camilla, Princess Anne, or any other woman in his life has been willing NOR wanting to do. I imagine he, like Harry, crave some sense of normalcy that neither the royals nor the Spencers can afford (the Spencers are still gentry and title holding). I’m all for making it a more complex issue when it comes to this man, but not for this, no.

    • Anonymous says:

      That makes sense to me. William had a semblance of it, fleetingly and probably on-and-off, when his mother was alive. Then it was all gone, and a part of him craved it.

      I read Earl Spencer’s book about being sent to that Posh boarding school when he was 8 (some of the kids were as young as 7) and what it did to him and his peers. He has admitted he fared better than many, maybe most; yet he still struggled with addiction, relationship/marriage problems, etc. Treating children that young like they are little adults really screws with them. The alienation from a place of relative safety and affection screws with them, especially when their own parents are subjecting them to it, knowingly and willingly.

      I’m not making excuses for William, just saying I can see how he needed and found a place of “normalcy” in the Middleton family. And Carole took advantage of that.

      • Saucy&Sassy says:

        Anonymous, I read Earl Spencer’s book, too. I was horrified how those little boys were treated. Their experiences were more torture than school. They were literally abandoned. I was glad when he got therapy–and it sounds likes he’s been in therapy for a long time (probably off and on).

        Supposedly, boarding schools are no longer like that. I hope they are not.

    • Nic919 says:

      William was a prime target for someone like Carole because she’s a shit mother. All her kids are lazy and co dependent and she worked hard to pimp out her daughters to rich men.

      Sadly because the Windsors are so messed up, William had no one after Diana died and without having any proper therapy in order to cope, he fell prey to Carole basically treating him as king of their household. He got whatever he wanted from them, unlike his own mother, who acted like a parent.

      At some point he snapped out of it, but whatever he did on Dec 28 made him susceptible to the Middletons, at least for now. I don’t think Carole is anywhere near him at home. She was kicked out during Covid from Anmer.

  12. ArtHistorian says:

    This article reads as a narcissicist mother bragging about how important she is and in control she is of her Royal relatives’ lives.

  13. Jais says:

    Aw. Cheese on toast Carole is back. So I’m guessing the other royals drink at ascot too, right? Are they not drinking or are they just not getting photographed? Bc they always make sure to get pictures of Carole drinking. Every time. Is she that much of a lush, like more so than the others, or is she less protected?

    • Cheshire Sass says:

      I’m thinking both, that drinking pic of her knocking it back is a kicker! It looks like she’s about to tilt her head all the way back to get it down in one gulp!

      • Sarge says:

        That’s the bit about Carole I like. Always knocking back a vino. Albeit, only bit

    • rosa mermaid says:

      The RR doesn’t need her.

    • Nic919 says:

      She made it easy for them by swinging back a glass of wine. Mostly people tend to sip it and not chug it down.

    • Barb Mill says:

      Her and Cams always seem to have wine in hand.

  14. aquarius64 says:

    This is Middleton Image Rehab but it still won’t save Kate. The Firm is biding its time and when the time comes they can’t complain of mistreatment given the Middletons hanging out at Ascot with William. And where’s Uncle Hookers and Blow? He’s the Middleton attack dog when it comes to the Sussexes and he’s not compensated for it. Uncle Gary is a loose cannon and I’m surprised the Firm didn’t lock him down.

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      The rehab is temp, I think to ensure a no press fuss divorce announcement and we are all still one big happy family etc..

      Carole may have something on him about what really went down during the last 6 months but Peggy also has things on them, esp if they have been over egging the cancer diagnosis – the Mids have always over played their hand.

      Will be interesting to see how it all plays out in the coming months – Cams was not pleased with the Wails at Trooping.

    • Liz says:

      I agree Aquarius and Digital Unicorn. They’ve been set up/paid to make things look fine after Kate’s absence. So they can’t say anything further down the line – the photos show them all being (fake) friendly.

    • rosa mermaid says:

      Uncle Gary criticised Harry, flavour of the month.

    • Nic919 says:

      Uncle Gary said on celebrity big brother that he would say more once the announcement was made. That sounded more like a separation announcement was going to happen.

  15. amy says:

    I think there was some quid pro quo going on re: Kate’s appearance on the balcony. She agreed to do that, William agreed to be seen with her parents so they can try to claw their way back into polite society. The timing matches up perfectly.

  16. WithTheAmerican says:

    Can any Ascot experts explain why the Middletons started out with yellow name tags and then changed out to purple for the royal area?

    Is it normal to change tiers after arrival? Or does this signify they hadn’t been invited to the royal enclosure until after arrival.

  17. Kim says:

    He really did do something to her, didn’t he

    • Chrissy says:

      Yup, it seem like it. And her mother sold out her daughter yet again. Carole is some piece of work and Michael seems like her mute sidekick. Nice parents!

      • Unblinkered says:

        He looks hang-dog, the only one with some shame.

        Carol will be working the phone trying to cadge tickets for Wimbledon again like the time she was seen ‘accepting’ freebies from Roger Federer’s wife. Disgusting scrounger.

    • Jaded says:

      He did. It’s clear as the nose on my face. Ma Midds wins again, she’ll toady to anyone as long as it gets Kate on the throne.

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      Kim, or she had a breakdown when he insisted on divorce. I really do think that part of her issues have to do with mental health. With that mother, the men in grey and the Windors around I can definitely see that. It wouldn’t be something the Mids would want out, though.

  18. sunny says:

    This is the old Middleton PR line that we haven’t seen for years. The Other Brother has been backing away from this for awhile so to have the Middleton family back in the fold after everything either means what went down at Christmas is worse than we thought and this is to keep everyone quiet and happy and ensure Katie can be brought out of her box when Willy needs to undermine his enemy/father.

    This people are all so weird. Like this story is not a great look for the royal marriage. It makes them both look like incompetent, dependant children, not mature adults in a healthy relationship capable as acting as the bedrock of the royal family.

    • Blujfly says:

      I agree that we haven’t seen it in this rich detail for a decade. And I also think it’s interesting that it hasn’t been updated with new examples. I expected to see more takes about “William supporting his beleaguered in-laws” – like we saw after he deliberately kissed Kate in front of paparazzi they called when Gary was exposed by the news of the world

    • Amy Too says:

      Honestly, when you think that the current ”perfect image” of Windsor royalty is based on Queen Victoria and Prince Albert and their whole “actually in-love spouses/happy family of the nation,” schtick…. when Victoria was basically fresh out of high school….(!!!)… and we’re now needing Carole Middleton to play “peacemaker” and “smoother-over” for her 40 year old daughter and SIL….who already have 3 kids???

      “We’re just a normal, happy family of 5, thrust too early into a role we didn’t expect!” Except, they did expect. They always knew. it’s not like he was a surprise/unforeseen heir (Victoria was). And they’re 40+ years old! It’s not like both QE2 and Charles died the day after WANK got married??

      • Lucky Charm says:

        For that matter, QEII’s father King George VI, also never expected to become King, certainly not so soon after his father’s death. And Victoria was only 18, a literal teenager when she became Queen, while William and Kate, adults and parents of three kids of their own, still act like petulant teenagers.

  19. Digital Unicorn says:

    Am not sure this article is meant to do what they think it does – its snark, reminding people just how manipulative and scheming Ma is. It does not make anyone mentioned look good – did Cams sanction this???

    Time will tell how long this lasts before things turn negative against them again.

    • ML says:

      The Middletons are not popular and I don’t think this article and the tone in which it’s written is helpful to them.
      1. The DF decided to rerun old episodes of “The Cambridges” after seeing W interact with CarolE yesterday.
      2. The Middletons really are this out of touch.
      3. As you stated, Camzilla decided to have a bit of twisted fun. She’s close to the editors of the DF.
      4. W is really this out of touch and wants to show he’s close with his in-laws.
      5. W is not that out of touch and wants an article that on the surface seems like he’s close with his in-laws, but is really making them look terrible.
      6. Someone is actively trying to piss W off.

      Edit7. I forgot KC. He wants payback for being a negative grandparent.

    • Blujfly says:

      The original article was very obviously backhanded and was written at a time when William and Kate were deeply whining to the press and fighting the press and being criticized for not working and disappearing to Norfolk.

  20. Chrissie T says:

    Between the scary rage monster article and Carole picking out his clothes – explains a lot! – basically the message is William’s one holy mess.

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      Chrissie, actually both he and Bone Idle sound like twits that don’t know how to get dressed in the morning. I’m leaning towards the Escort being behind this.

  21. Badgerette says:

    They can’t even write a fluff piece without mentioning William being a “hot head”. Breadcrumbs?

  22. Eurydice says:

    The Diana statue-unveiling might have been the last straw, but wasn’t there a raft of similar Carole-embiggening articles before that? And rumors about how Will was sick of her hanging around the house and generally meddling? I can’t imagine that William has changed his feelings about Carole – there’s some serious punishment going on here.

    • Jais says:

      Around the statue unveiling, there was that very offensive article in which it was stated that Carole had been a better mother towards William than Diana. It was clear middleton-sanctioned pr and an incredible overreach. I can’t recall whether that was before the statue unveiling or after but it was around that time.

  23. Lau says:

    I’m going to be honest, I didn’t see that comeback happening. Weird how that article barely mentions Kate’s father and makes it sound like Kate is an only child lol.
    We haven’t heard about uncle Gary in a bit, he’ll probably soon pop up as well to start saying bullsh*t again.

    • Moondust says:

      Didn’t see it happening either. I would have expected a lot of Middleton embiggening right after Kate ‘s surgery but now? Everything is so bizarre.

  24. Detached Observer says:

    If this is a Ma Midds embiggening attempt, somebody needs to do an intervention and rip that bottle out of her hand. Maybe she DOES have something to hold over Heuvos’ head, but man! Talk about overplaying your hand… Incandescent Egg rage scrambling incoming…

  25. Lulu says:

    They moved from KP, where they spent millions of taxpayer money to upgrade, to Adalaide, they didn’t swap Anmer for anything.

  26. JFerber says:

    So are the negotiations over? Are they staying married, then? But on what terms? This doesn’t sound like a divorce roll out.

  27. ohwell says:

    The divorce theories are way too conspiratorial. Now that the divorce did not happen the theory is that there was a negotiation?!?

    There was never a divorce in play! Kate is desperate to be queen, the Middleton’s are desperate for royal association, Will is desperate to maintain the family man image. No one benefits from a divorce.

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      ohwell, I don’t agree. I keep thinking that she is the one who hasn’t wanted to appear publically, so she didn’t. I think the public appearance came with some king of rehab for Ma & Pa. That was Ascot. This article? The Mids, maybe. I’m leaning toward the Escort. She was not happy on that balcony, so I expect some kind of retaliation from her.

  28. Amy Bee says:

    The embiggening of Carole has re-started. It very interesting that the tone that the press takes when speaking about William’s in-laws and when they speak about Doria who probably has a much closer relationship with Harry than William has with Carole.

    • sparrow1 says:

      Good spot. Yes, she has been lying low. There was the is it/isn’t it car photo but then nothing. Get ready for an uptick in boredom. Dull woman.

  29. Laura D says:

    Wow we Brits are stuck between a rock and a hard place. At the moment we have the Court of Parker-Bowles and the only thing we have to look forward to is the Court of Middleton. To say I was furious when I saw William playing nice with that manipulating woman is an understatement. It’s must be so insulting for the hard working people she ripped off having to watch her glug back champagne and being escorted around Ascot by the future king. I am so angry because I know there’s very little any of us can do about it. I have no doubts now that the harridan and the rest of her brood will be in the royal box at Wimbledon and the Ascot appearance was the “soft launch.”

    • sparrow1 says:

      Exactly. I’m preparing for big feathery hats and Barbara Cartland makeup, because surely they’re readying Carole for queen mother material, a la Elizabeth’s mother.

  30. HuffnPuff says:

    That’s a very unflattering photo of her chugging her drink. The piece of hair askew. She’s letting her class show.

  31. Mslove says:

    So cheese toast & sea salt chocolates are the key to manipulating Peg. I wouldn’t put it past Carole to pimp for Peg when he’s bored and wants to be single.

    • sparrow1 says:

      The cheese and toast really gets to me. As a Brit, it’s such a bad memory meal. It was a Sunday night supper as a kid, or a “there’s nothing in the house” last resort dish. It is vile. She couldn’t even whip up Welsh rarebit.

      • Lorelei says:

        Is cheese and toast what we Americans refer to as “grilled cheese?” I’ve always wondered this, lol.

      • Mslove says:

        Yes, a grilled cheese is “cheese on toast” and I totally want to try a Welsh rarebit, sounds delicious.

      • Lucky Charm says:

        I love grilled cheese sandwiches! The more cheese the better. My new range has an integrated griddle on the stove, so now I don’t even need to get out a pan to make them. 🙂

  32. Mel says:

    This was all part of Kate’s holding out. There will be more concessions…

  33. L Williams says:

    It’s not a surprise that the Middleton’s are back in the U.K elite society. U.K elite is made up of aristocrats who made their riches off slavery and where compensated for its abolishment by the U.K treasury up until 2015. Currently you have one of richest families in the U.K under charge by the Swiss police for human trafficking. As far as I am concerned the Middleton’s are right where they belong. As they say dirt attracts dirt.

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      L William, I think part of a deal was to show the Mids are ‘accepted’ by the brf. That doesn’t mean the aristos will follow suit. I would be surprised if that’s the case.

      Oh, I agree that like finds like. This article is not flattering to the Mids or the Wails.

    • GTWiecz says:

      Who’s under charge by the Swiss for human trafficking, Carole’s brother or Andrew?

  34. Thena says:

    The Fail is starting to make me think thar maybe William and Carole are having an affair… 👀

    Also, did someone’s aunt die and leave Carole a whole lot of money so she could wear a new outfit to Ascot and place all this paid PR in the papers?

  35. Ben says:

    I know that was a Carole PR article and signaling to William that once again she’s got dirt on him. But isn’t having the in-laws so enmeshed in their grown-up kids marriages very middle and lower class behavior according to the British social standards? I would think so since their upper class, aristocracy and royals are notorious for sending their children to boarding school many since age 7. I would like to know if anyone have any insight about it.

    • Cairidh says:

      It’s the behaviour of a mother with narcissistic personality disorder. It’s not normal behaviour amongst any classes.
      However the in-laws being more involved or even living with them is working class behaviour not middle class. The upper classes have nannies, middle classes pay for nursery and baby sitters paid by the hour. Working classes traditionally had Grannie to do half the childcare and babysitting instead. Traditionally working class would live near to their extended families for generations, the middle and upper classes moved away for their careers or to be near whoever they married that they met whilst living far away from home, at university or work.

      • Ben says:

        @Cairidh. Thanks for the insight. Carole being so nosy and pushy it’s giving working class Monster in Law. I thought why a social class that sends their kids to boarding school would be bothered with their marital issues when they have money and staff to resolve that. As long as they marry into another wealthy family and have kids they are good to go.
        Also the article is not doing any favors to William. Forget about him being King in waiting. His mother was one of the most glamorous women in recent world history. Period. Add to that her lineage, fame, poise, beauty, wardrobe and the career she made for herself as a world class philanthropist (with Kate we know there’s no expectations at all for the POW title) meeting with world leaders, tycoons and other big philanthropists. But now William Is been portrayed as stuck with the crass, distasteful social climber Carole in his household.

  36. sparrow1 says:

    That is truly one unhealthy dynamic, if accurate. Carole managed him/her into marrying. That should’ve been red flag enough.

  37. tamsin says:

    The article makes William and Kate both in arrested adolescence, and Carole a controlling, social climbing manipulator. The prose is nauseating. I would believe that William was looking for some semblance of family life and the Middletons appeared able to give to them. I would believe that Kate is incapable of duplicating that family life on her own for William, herself and their children and depended on mummy for all things- how to handle William, how to care for her babies, how decorate her houses. She is ultimately a nothing burger, but an attractive clothes hangar (per Hillary Mantel). William, although a bit of a nothing burger himself, probably became bored with her, and his eye started wandering.

    I would believe that William, with his anger problem, injured her in some way physically. If that is true, he is in a difficult position because it’s not something that would be good if it were confirmed and made became public. If William wanted a divorce, he would have to get one before Charles dies. Charles becoming ill, has probably been the biggest obstacle to William’s plans. I also believe that William does not have the patience or smarts to play a long game, so it will be interesting to see how the chess game goes.

  38. ohwell says:

    This is sooooo creepy!

    “source said of William’s love for Carole: ‘He is in thrall to her capabilities, her tenacity, high-energy levels, her superb organisational skills and her networking.”

  39. Over it says:

    I can’t get the over the fact that this social climbing b-th defrauded innocent people and still is out here parading and being supported by the British media and the
    Royal family like she is a pillar of society. She should be named and shame every single day and this is why i have zero respect for the Windsors . They lack a moral compass of right and wrong.

  40. martha says:

    Mayhaps they’d rather the Middletons inside the tent rather than out (etc).

    Middletons certainly aren’t the first aristo/royal-adjacent or, even, aristo/royals to have money problems. It’s almost like that’s something only the little people should be ashamed of. Financial fraud and bankruptcy is one of those sins those inside the tent are very forgiving of. The unforgiveable sin is mentioning it. Best to just pretend it never happened, don’tcha know.

    Plus it’s just less effort for William to be civil (at least socially and publicly) to his in-laws.

    I’m betting they unoffically go to work at KP (for pay).

  41. Annalise says:

    The full length shot of Carol Middleton makes me realize that her already ugly dress is even worse than I thought. She’s actually not a dumpy woman, but you’d never know from the way she looks in that hideous dress. Her boobs look saggy AF (Ive come to believe that aristo and wannabe aristo women purposely wear terrible bras. Well-fitting bras must be too “common”. Or something), the length of the dress is super awkward and makes her legs look much shorter than they are, and the overall style makes her waist look really thick.

    It wouldnt surprise me at all if Kate has this exact dress in a smaller size. And omg I f*cking HATE pussybows.

  42. TN Democrat says:

    Well. At least we got a near 6 month retrieve from this mess. Could the real source of these articles be Charles and Camilla? The article is not flattering at all towards Will-not, Keen or Carole even though it pretends to be and highlights how weak/easily mislead and damaged Will-not is. Harry also lost his mother and the rota doesn’t print this style of drivel about him.

  43. Tessa says:

    Carole and Gary slammed harry and diana. Gary also trashed Diana.

  44. Monlette says:

    Who, outside the Middleton household, would be in a position to report how William loves eating Carole’s cheese toast in front of the telly. This was almost as silly as the one article describing in great detail how William and Catherine shared an intimate candlelit dinner in his room for their wedding anniversary. Either the Middletons have loose lips, there is some major spin doctoring in play, or both.