Courtney Love accuses Dave Grohl of trying to seduce Frances Cobain (update)

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It’s been nearly a year since we’ve had reason to ponder the miraculous continued existence of Courtney Love on Twitter. Honestly, I don’t know why she didn’t take being sued for defamation (for several tweets last year) as a sign that she should eschew all social networking platforms. Does Twitter help her sell records or concert tickets? Probably not, so Court needs to just stay away from Twitter because she is clearly not capable of censoring her own thought processes (or in most cases, even spelling them out correctly). But I guess Courtney’s big mouth would still get in trouble anyway without the help of the internet because — just in the past few months — she’s still managed to attack the Muppets, hilariously claim to be Lindsay Lohan’s sobriety coach, and to blame her benzos addiction on Winona Ryder and Andy Dick.

So when this story about Courtney’s latest round of Twitter ranting popped up, my initial response was “Shut up, Courtney.” Apparently a few nights ago, Court got the bright idea that 43-year-old Dave Grohl (formerly the drummer of Kurt Cobain’s Nirvana) was trying to seduce (i.e., “macking on“) her estranged daughter, Frances Bean Cobain. This conclusion was based upon Courtney speaking with the voices in her head Frances’ roommate, who supposedly knows Dave’s driver and said that Frances was in the car with Dave and he was massively groping her. The entire Twitter rant is screencapped at Gawker, but I won’t replicate it here because it’s full of profanity. There are several reasons why — not the least of which is that Frances seems to prefer the exclusive company of her boyfriend, Isaiah Silva — it makes no sense why Frances would ever be in Dave’s car, but common sense matters very little to Courtney Love:

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Courtney Love has accused Dave Grohl of attempting to seduce her 19-year-old daughter, Frances Bean Cobain.

The Hole singer, who is estranged from her only child, made the accusations on her private Twitter account last night. She claims that her daughter’s roommate told her that the Foo Fighters frontman – who is known as one of the nicest men in rock – “hit on Frances,” according to Gawker.

Grohl,43, is, for the uninitiated, the former Nirvana bandmate and best friend of Frances’ father, Kurt Cobain. He has therefore known her since she was a baby.

Grohl responded to Love’s accusations in a statement, he said: “Unfortunately Courtney is on another hateful Twitter rant. These new accusations are upsetting, offensive and absolutely untrue.”

After the initial incredible allegation, Love went on to threaten a Twitter account she obviously believed belonged to Grohl, although it is actually linked to a German IT worker who hasn’t tweeted since 2008, according to the website.

She talked about Grohl’s “pathology,” insisting that Foo Fighters drummer Taylor Hawkins resembles Cobain and is in the “submissive drummer position” in his hugely successful band. It has to be noted that Hawkins actually looks more like Grohl, albeit with Kurt-coloured straw blonde hair.

She also argued that the fact Grohl called one of his daughters Violet is salient, as a Hole song shares the same name. However, his eldest child, who turns six on Sunday, was named after Grohl’s maternal grandmother, as he’s stated in many interviews. The happily married rocker also has daughter Harper, who turns three next week, by his wife of nine years, Jordyn Blum.

He is one of the most beloved artists in the world, and unusually for a rock star, all the tales about him relate to his generous and moral character.

Unencumbered by actual facts, however, Courtney also accused Grohl of being “sexually obsessed” with Kurt then relayed information from a driver who claimed that Grohl had “his hands all over” Frances in his car. She also insisted that the Ohio born star, who grew up in a suburb of Washington D.C, has tried to seduce Courtney herself in the past.

This is far from the first time Love has attacked Grohl. Last November, the singer started ranting about him taking food from her child’s table at a festival in Brazil after a fan flashed a poster of Cobain in the audience. It’s alleged the pair have clashed over Nirvana copyright issues, yet Grohl has kept his counsel about Love and his friend.

[From Daily Mail]

Naturally, Dave’s publicist has denied the veracity of Courtney’s claims, and I’m pretty sure that Courtney must have imagined this so-called “conversation” with Frances’ roommate. Wouldn’t you think that a precondition to being friends with or even living with Frances would be to never have contact with her mother, who lost custody of Frances in 2009? In the aftermath of Frances’ freedom from Courtney, we also learned how Francis’ cat died and and her dog was nearly lost as well because of Court’s hoarding and pill-gobbling issues. So my initial statement still stands — shut up, Courtney.

Even though I don’t think anyone ever believes anything Courtney says at this point, this story is pretty horrible. I hope Frances ignores it, and I hope Dave sues Courtney for defamation. He’s been married to wife Jordyn Blum for nine years, and they have two children together. Dave doesn’t need this kind of crap from Courtney Love.

UPDATE: Gawker now has an response from Frances on the situation: “While I’m generally silent on the affairs of my biological mother, her recent tirade has taken a gross turn. I have never been approached by Dave Grohl in more than a platonic way. I’m in a monogamous relationship and very happy. Twitter should ban my mother.

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Courtney Love is pictured at the Salvatore Ferragamo’s fragrance launch on 3/20/12; Frances and Isaiah are pictured on 4/17/10; Dave Grohl pictured with family on 7/17/11 and with Jordyn Blum at the Elton John Oscar party on 2/26/12. Photos courtesy of WENN

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  1. mln76 says:

    She’s such an unbelievable sh-t-head. I highly doubt any of this is true. I bet if there is any relationship between Grohl and Francis it’s because he feels some kind of fatherly protectiveness considering her father was a friend and bandmate and her mother is a batshit crazy shit-can of a person.
    I remember she accused Billy Corgan of something similar because he said something nice about Frances.
    She’s just deplorable.

    • Camille (The original) says:

      I agree.

      Courtney Love is disgusting and absolutely crazy.

    • Fabgrrl says:

      Well, I’m sure maternal/paternal nurturing in an alien concept to Courtney Love so she misinterprets these men being kind and caring to her daughter.

  2. Nev says:

    I wish she would go back to singing…she has a really interesting voice and had some great tunes back in the heady nineties.

  3. Esmom says:

    Someone needs to confiscate all of her electronic devices stat.

    Frances is lovely and she and her boyfriend make an adorable couple. As a fan of her late dad’s, I wish her nothing but the best.

    • gg says:

      They do make a cute couple. His eyes are so starey, even when he’s just walking around. They look like sibs from the same dad.

      • Coucou says:

        HIS eyes, man, look at hers in that second pic, that wide eyed look kinda looks chemically enhanced, and i’m not talking about B-tox.

  4. reg says:

    In her twitter rant, she wants to shoot Grohl dead which is how Cobain died, pretty creepy…

  5. Hautie says:

    Poor Dave. Will he ever be rid of Courtney and her big bag of crazy?

    I have always assumed Courtney hated that Dave has been so successful. (post-Nirvana) And that Dave has never had any issue with telling Courtney to STFU.

    Can you image having to deal with her… simply because she is the Widow Cobain.

    She never did any of the work that made Nirvana successful. But she gets huge say over how it is used.

    • marie says:

      and that annoys me the most. I have no idea how they have put up with her for so long. She’s definitely jealous over Grohl’s post Nirvana success, while the only thing she’s had success at was popping pills and being a lunatic. The whole thing is disgusting..

    • normades says:

      Yes, they were married for less than 3 years! So wrong she has any say at all!

  6. Sapphire says:

    She is going to trip over that shoelace. Will she notice?
    Team DG

  7. Amanda G says:

    She is a sad sad person. She had a shot back in the 90’s of becoming a decent person and actress, but she blew it. I feel bad for Dave that he’s stuck with her. On a side note, I had no idea that he was Kurt’s best friend? I thought Kurt didn’t like him? Or is that just one of the many lies told about the band?

    • Moi says:

      I don’t know if they were best friends, but they definitely loved each other. As band mates and as friends.

    • LeeLoo says:

      The idea that Kurt did not like Krist or Dave has been something Courtney has planted for years in an effort to wrestle control of all things Nirvana from Dave and Krist. I’m sure in the end Kurt’s relationship was tense with everyone trying to get him to clean himself up. Krist and Dave openly admitted that Nirvana had already broken up about a month prior to his death. I doubt any of them were getting along at that point and Dave has said he got tired of dealing with Kurt’s drug addiction and Courtney making the situation worse. So I doubt Dave and Kurt were on the greatest of terms at the time of his death. But I also think it had more to do with Dave’s exasperation at dealing with a drug addict than Kurt as a person.

  8. LeeLoo says:

    Ugh. Courtney needs to be stopped.

    She will say whatever she wants. I think she has a mix of narcissitic personality disorder and schizophrenia. Her own mother even said as such.

    Her schtick is getting real tiresome. It’s pretty obvious this woman can no longer take care of herself. Has anyone cobsidered 5150ing her? She needs to be locked up and heavily medicated. And by heavily medicated I mean on psych drugs. Not the controlled substances she takes.

    • iloveretro says:

      I don’t know that she has anyone in her life at this point who cares enough to 5150 her. Anyway, she’s primarily living in NY, not CA. Does the 5150 law even exist in NY?

      • LeeLoo says:

        It may not be called a 5150 in NY but just about every state has some type of law in that regard. CA however makes it a lot easier to commit someone.

    • sup says:

      she’s definitely a narcissist. she thinks dave named his daughter after her band’s song because apparently the world revolves around courtney. and to make it believable (because who would buy that dave would be so into her?) she said that proved dave’s obsession with kurt. i thought it was courtney who wrote the song and not kurt? sounds like the rumours were true after all.

  9. Relli says:

    I think Dave became the focus of her aggression and anger when Kurt passed/she killed him. because she thought she was goign to get to live on as the Nirvana widow.

    • LeeLoo says:

      I think she is jealous of how well Dave has done for himself. She thinks that should be her and that’s why she has so much hatred for him.

    • sup says:

      dave called her out on pretending to be f–ked up/high/insane. he even referred to her in a lyric, wondering why he was the only one to see through her rehearsed insanity. but i believe the main reason for the dispute is courtney wanting even more money. she even said “i own nirvana” and whenever she wants more money (all the time) she never fails to throw her daughter under the bus saying “it’s frances’s money! you stole from frances!” when you remember how she tried to take over frances’s bank account right before she turned 18.

  10. Bergine says:

    Yes, Courtney’s a mess, forever and always. You might recall, though, that the “nicest man in rock” slept around like crazy on his first wife, and he traded her in for a perky, docile young breeder.

    • anon33 says:

      That does not at all mean that he would hit on his dead band mate’s daughter, though.

      • LeeLoo says:

        Agreed. Mainly because I don’t think he would do that to his kids. He sounds like he loves the hell out of them.

        Besides, if I recall wasn’t his first wife also crazy?

      • DreamyK says:

        How creepy would it be for a man to try and have sex with a girl whom he remembers from in utero? *shudders*

    • Scarlet Vixen says:

      Actually, it was the wife that cheated on him–I believe with Pat Smear who was a bandmate in Nirvana and Foo Fighters (among others). Dave Grohl has actually said he WISHED he’d cheated on his ex-wife.

    • hannah says:

      he’s actually super nice. he’s always really friendly and patient, no diva attitude. if its a front, he needs an oscar stat!

  11. Bergine says:

    And for the love of dog, it’s FrancEs. “Francis” is a boy’s name.

  12. rissa says:

    thought my mom was embarrassing

  13. Cruisegirl says:

    Dave’s wife is beautiful!

  14. anti-icon says:

    Courtney Love. Nobody believes anything she ever has to say…because she is such a foul mouthed duggie hard core. I personally think SOME of what she says is probably true (that she was preyed upon financially in the aftermath of Kurt Cobain’s death, for instance.) But this is beyond the pale….even for loud mouth, no boundaries Courtney. It must be HELL being Courtney Love’s daughter. My heart has always been with Frances, ever since Courtney ADMITTED in Vanity Fair to doing coke while pregnant. Just wow. No. And it’s been downhill from there, it appears.

  15. Jen D says:

    Poor Frances. Can you imagine growing up with this? I think it’s really creepy that Courtney Love would discuss her daughter’s sex life on a public forum (regardless of what’s true or not). No wonder she wanted out….

  16. Moi says:

    Okay now it’s really time for Courtney Love to STFU and stop trying to use people that are far more talented than she, to get attention. Crazy bit/ch.

  17. Booka says:

    No doubt said in a drug induced haze. Frances is well rid of this excuse for a mother. I wouldn’t doubt dipping her hands into her inheritance money could have been the last straw.

  18. jc126 says:

    Courtney Love is a lying, JEALOUS (of Grohl’s success post-Nirvana), worthless POS junkie. Not every addict is a POS, of course, but Courtney is. And would be even if she had no addiction problems.

  19. Jennifer12 says:

    It’s kind of funny that Britney Spears is the one under a conservatorship and Courtney Love is running around, spouting off insanity and accusations and taking massive amounts of drugs. I was a huge Hole fan in the 90s and still love Pretty On the Inside. However, she is officially insane and no longer the amazing musician she once was. Sad. Poor Frances; she must be mortified.

    • sup says:

      Britney is under conservatorship because she locked herself in the bathroom with her kids, and threatened to kill them if she didn’t get what she wanted (speculated to be drugs) but i agree. courtney needs to be locked up she’s a dangerous person.

      • Jennifer12 says:

        I always heard that Britney only threatened herself and had a breakdown when she didn’t want to give the boys back. Not appropriate either way, but she’s under a permanent conservatorship, and Courtney- once a great musician- is, terrifyingly, running the streets and her mouth. You can see which one is a moneymaker for some unscrupulous people.

      • suzie says:

        that’s so inaccurate. britney did not threaten to hurt her children. she had jayden in the bathroom with her that night and didn’t want to return the kids to kevin. she was obviously out of her mind but the medical and court reports were that she was threatening to harm herself, not her children. The biggest difference between britney and courtney? britney’s issues were not as drug related though I don’t doubt that she did them at some points. And britney’s not an asshole. Coutney’s just a mean narcissistic person.

      • sup says:

        at first i believed britney just didn’t want to return her kids too. but later i read reports on the incident claiming she wanted to get some pills that she was addicted to and they didn’t give them to her, so she threatened. which is why she made a video for her kids to watch in the video (reportedly) explaining to the kids that if they ever happen to read about that night, she’d never hurt them that way and that she had mental issues. but hey no argument here courtney is a narcissistic asshole britney has her share of faults but not nearly as much as courtney. she did give away her kids a few days earlier than when kevin wanted them, and then posed to the paps with a very short skirt on with no undies, deliberately opening her legs (she wasn’t sitting down, leaning on something) she did questionable stuff back in 2007 but she is no way near courtney’s level nobody is

      • suzie says:

        I’m not afraid to identify myself as a britney stan and i remember reports like that, from the national enquirer … idk if that’s where you heard it from but I wouldn’t take it as fact. Britney was messed up for a long time. before 2007, before kevin. It just all came to a head and she fell too deep before anybody who had the influence could get her out.

        It was an attention thing, the fear of being forgotten, being 25 with 2 kids and getting divorced again. I’m not making excuses for her or trying to make this a britney post btw.

      • sup says:

        @suzie, i’ll take your word for it. i’m not a fan (though i don’t hate her either) so i might not have that much information on britney anyway. usually i take what i read on gossip blogs with a grain of salt. and actually hope you’re right about that incident which was also the first impression i got on it.

  20. skuddles says:

    Poor Francis Bean… she won’t get any peace from the crazy until her Mom is dead.

    • LeeLoo says:

      If Courtney is abusing presciption drugs and if half of the accusations made in Frances restraining order are true then I doubt Frances will have to wait a long time. Courtney’s body will only be able to take so much and considering how unhealthy she has looked, I would be surprised if she made it to Frances’ 30th birthday. I know a lot of people likened Courtney to a cockroach but I think she’s more like a cat whose 9 lives are just about up. She can’t continue to live the way she does and if continues to do so she will die.

      • skuddles says:

        Totally agree with you LeeLoo. Love is not long for this world if she keeps this up – her body has sustained too much abuse already. Either that or I can see her taking the same exit route as Kurt.

      • dahlianoir says:

        Well, who knows ? Motorhead’s singer Lemmy has had every drug that ever existed and half the worldwide production of Jack Daniels and he’s around 70 years old.

      • LeeLoo says:

        Yes but Lemmy’s gone through stretches of sobriety. Isn’t he currently sober anyways? That’s more than can be said for Courtney. What I love is how she claims to be sober but then abuses prescription medication and takes medicine that she doesn’t need.

      • Aotearovian says:

        @dahlianoir: Fair point, but I think people like Lemmy (and Keith Richards) are the exception that proves the rule. How many hard-living rock stars make old bones? Very few. By around 60 they’re usually done for.

      • LeeLoo says:

        I think there is one discernible reason why Lemmy Klimster and Keith Richards are still alive. While I know less about Lemmy than I do about Keith one thing becomes apparent, while they both have obviously done drugs they are what I would interpret as “heavy drug abusers” instead of drug addicts. For people like them, certain situations and times set them off but they go through long periods of sobriety as well when not in those situations. Also, if and when they are using you don’t hear about them going completely batty and wonky. Another thing, whether copious amounts of mary jane is involved or not I can’t say but those are some laid back dudes. I am 27 years old and in my entire life I cannot think of an event where Keith has gone on a rampage on someone. All in all I think they are still alive because they don’t stress themselves out.

  21. sup says:

    her reasoning is dumb. she said dave’s kids name is violet. wait, so she didn’t write that song herself back in ’91? so is she confirming the rumours that the song was also written by kurt. and for all we know she always said that the lyrics were about billy corgan, so why would dave be obsessed about a song written about billy? lol. besides how does that prove that dave was obsessed with kurt? couldn’t it be that he liked the word and got the idea of naming his child after that? she is not the first nor the last person to be named violet. courtney accused somebody of not having a brain (on twitter) as cunning and cold as she is(was) she used up her own brain with all the lifestyle when she wasn’t pretending to be fucked up. bet she thought she wouldn’t be affected at all, she seems like a narcissistic sociopath to me.

    • Al says:

      I’m pretty sure he named his daughter after his grandmother.

      • ol cranky says:

        he actually did interviews before he was married and said he if he had a daughter he’d name her Violet after his grandmother. He must have been really close with her to have been saying that in interviews well before she was “a twinkle in his eye”.

        Harper is named after an uncle of Grohl’s. he’s obviously big into honoring family members that way

    • sup says:

      @al and @ol cranky umm, i was saying the same thing. that dave grohl didn’t name his child after courtney’s song. but she claimed that he did, and that this was somehow connected to his “sexual obsession” with kurt. lol. they weren’t even that close and kurt got 70% of the songwriting credits which pissed off novoselic and dave. besides it was dave who introduced them or at least that’s what i read. if anything he was close to courtney he even has a photo with her at her wedding. courtney is full of shit as usual

      • ol cranky says:

        sorry for the confusion, I actually did understand what you said. I was just confirming that not only was it true but that Grohl made multiple comments prior to marriage that he wanted a girl to name after his grandmother and planned on (and did) name any other children after family members as well

  22. LeeLoo says:

    EDIT: This comment was meant in reply to Scarlet Vixen’s.

    Pat’s openly bisexual. I wonder if that is partially the reason why Pat left the group. Although it doesn’t seem to have affected their friendship too badly. I just remember hearing about his ex being a crazy bitch and making all sorts of outlandish demands during the divorce. If she did cheat, I hope he didn’t have to give her a penny.

  23. Eleonor says:

    She is the mother of all the mothercrakheads.

    • Al says:

      It is why Pat left the band first time around. I read an interview with Dave in 2000 or 2001 and he said that Pat left the band “because he decided he liked Dave’s ex-wife more than him”. They obviously patched things up a few years ago though.

  24. Hubbahun says:

    I loathe this…thing. And yet it was Kurt who had to die…

  25. CitizenErased says:

    Celebrity Skin is one of my favourite albums, it makes me a sad panda that Courtney is such a crazyass bitch. I don’t believe a word of this, I adore Dave, the big hairy hunk of cheerful rock god.

  26. ichsi says:

    it’s such a shame, she used to be a brilliant musician.

    • Al says:

      No, she was never a good musician. But the songs Kurt and Billy Corgan wrote for her were good.

      • ZenB!tch says:

        Actually, the songs Billy wrote for her – Celebrity Skin – were a little too slick for Courtney. Her raspy voice didn’t work with the otherwise lovely songs.

        Billy has also become a piece of work. A year or two ago he was in Rolling Stone ranting about how relevenant he is. Um… I loved the Pumpkins but when you have to say you are relevant you are not – especially when you killed your band because either you are a major a-hole or where under the influence of Courtney. This was back when he was “dating” Jessica Simpson. Yeah Billy, that makes you relevant, more like a fool.

  27. KVE222 says:

    I’m not even going to acknowledge Courtney Love and instead say that Dave Grohl’s wife is very pretty.

  28. Booka says:

    This is what Frances Bean Cobain posted in Rolling Stone News today about those allegations:
    “While I’m generally silent on the affairs of my biological mother, her recent tirade has taken a gross turn,” says Cobain. “I have never been approached by Dave Grohl in more than a platonic way. I’m in a monogamous relationship and very happy. Twitter should ban my mother.”

    • Rll says:

      Good girl

    • sup says:

      see how she considers her gran to be her real mother and mentions love as her “biological mother”. i’m not even trying to be funny or dramatic, but i fear for frances’s life. i really do. and remember when poor thing had to flee to france and took refuge by marianne faithful after courtney abused her? two days later courtney caled the paps, she was also in france, and styled herself like a parisian woman. god the nerve. stalking her own child. she’s disgusting and dangerous.

  29. valleymiss says:

    Courtney Love should be drinking from a coffee cup that says “World’s Most Embarrassing Mom.” Poor Frances. 🙁

  30. Bej says:

    I’m impressed with how well Fraces Bean has turned out, despite the crazy she had to deal with from her mother. Well rounded, well spoken, & a credit to herself. Courtney gets no credit. She’s done nothing but try to destroy that child. And Dave Grohl. What a twisted story to think up. Sounds more like she’s obsessed with Grohl than he with Kurt.

    • Anoni Mus says:

      God, this is so spot on. I’m marveled that what must have been a hellish childhood produced such an intelligent, sober individual. Great response from Frances Bean to the batshit crazy allegations from her mother.

      On a shallow note, I find Dave Grohl incredibly attractive.

      • ZenB!tch says:

        I secretly worship Dave Grohl. Of course if he happens to be in the supermarket or sitting outside one of the favorite local cafes when I’m on my walks, I pretend I don’t notice him.

        Actually all of my girlfriends secretly worship Dave Grohl. I think this is why only my guy friends actually talk to him.

  31. Jules says:

    I think Courtney is schizophrenic.

  32. amanda says:

    I really recommend reading “Love and Death: The Murder of Kurt Cobain”. Even if you don’t think she had anything to do with it, it’s mostly about her. (But after you read it, you probably will think she had something to do with it. There’s no question in my mind, personally). She’s absolutely batsh*t insane, but she’s also manipulative and clever. Anyway, it’s a good read, kind of creepy and extremely well researched, particularly where Courtney is concerned.

    • Aotearovian says:

      In fairness, another recommendation would be Charles R Cross’ Heavier Than Heaven. Courtney was no positive influence, but Kurt had serious problems from adolescence, and a history of addiction, suicide and mental illness on both sides of his family. Long before he ever met Courtney, he was telling anyone who would listen than he was going to become a huge rock star – and then kill himself.

  33. Liz says:

    Courtney is a total crazy and her jealousy knows no bounds. Her daughter wants nothing to do with her and her own father believes she has more then allot to do with Kurt’s death/murder. Whether Kurt would of been dead today from drugs is speculation. The last evidence before his death was that he was getting his life together, going to rehab, quitting the band and ending his marriage. Courtney is very calculating, she manipulated Kurt from the very beginning, getting pregnant right away and “inheriting” a sh-t load of his money after his convenient death. If it wasn’t Kurt it would of been someone else. Her goal in life from the very beginning was to marry a wealthy successful rock star (all of this documented in her journal and personal lyrics.)The woman got what she wanted by manipulation, lies, deceit and most likely murder. And at the end of it all she’s just a crazy schizophrenic who f–ked her own career and confirmed her own lunacy by her actions and words. I wish Frances the best and hope she stays far away from Courtney.

    • mln76 says:

      Not to defend Courtney the vile trash that she is but it was alleged in court that her dear old Dad gave her LSD as a toddler I believe it. I think he’s a psychopath like his daughter. I think Courtney never had a chance to be a human being and yes I saw the documentary. I don’t think she killed him. I think he was a drug addict who would rather be high and miserable than sober and deal with his crazy life sadly.

      • LeeLoo says:

        I don’t really think that can be used as an excuse. Many of people have gone through that and worse and became perfectly normal and functioning human beings. I do agree with you on the latter.

      • ZenB!tch says:

        And who got Kurt hooked on heroin? He was a casual pot user before he met a certain someone.

        RDJ’s dad did the same thing. He gave him drugs as a child – after many struggles he turned it around but he was always a decent person underneath the drugs. He was and probably is still damaged but he is not deranged and evil.

        Also, drugs didn’t kill Kurt.

        Courtney should be Lilo not a murdering or at least suicide abetting piece of trash who speaks of her only child in such ways.

  34. Tess says:

    Poor Frances.
    Considering the circumstances, she seems pretty together.
    Maybe a tad harsh but pethaps Kurt shot the wrong parent.

    • ZenB!tch says:

      A lot of people believe that Courtney had Kurt killed because he was going to divorce her and possibly quit Nirvana and go live a secluded life somewhere. That is not allowed in insane famewhore just whore actually land.

  35. LeeLoo says:

    Apparently Twitter heeded Frances’ pleas and banned Courtney from Twitter. None of her accounts are active.

    • LeeLoo says:

      I was wrong. Apparently Twitter was all sorts of wonky last night. She is still there.

      • ZenB!tch says:

        There is no point, she will just create another email and come back. She’s been shut down before.

  36. teehee says:

    I love the comment MK made, that the shooting comment Love made, would raise her victim count to 2. Huzzah!!

  37. Meanchick says:

    Dave Grohl is about as obsessed with Courtney Love as OJ is with black women. Yeah, I said it!

  38. ZenB!tch says:

    Courtney hates Dave because he WOULDN’T SLEEP with her. She may be the only woman in rock he hasn’t slept with all BEFORE settling down with Jordyn, of course.

    Dave is a neighbor, he is seen in and about the cafes and stores here. He is a lovely person. He takes time to talk to his fans. Dave is very well regarded in suburban LA and nary a bad word has been uttered about him. He is somehow a genuinely normal person in spite of his fame.

    Frances says she has never been in a non-platonic situation with DG there is no reason to disbelieve her.

    There is also the fact that Frances is an adult, she is almost 20. Other than DG being married and being more than twice her age, there is nothing to prevent Frances from sleeping with or dating whomever she wants. I don’t believe it is true but even if it were it’s NONE OF THAT HO’S BUSINESS.

    And really the age difference between Frances and DG is less than the one between Lana and the evil Axl Rose.

    • sup says:

      if it’s true that she’s the only woman in the business that he hasn’t slept with, it’s also true that he is the only man in the biz that courtney hasn’t banged and she’s so gross i can’t believe all those guys fell for her. well maybe they thought she was an easy lay. except for ed norton. i’m still pressed about that one lol