One of our big stories last week was Rielle Hunter’s PR blitz to promote her new memoir. Hunter, as you might want to forget, was the mistress of former Presidential hopeful John Edwards. She got knocked up, got paid a lot of money from an elderly Edwards’ campaign donor to live well and keep quiet, and found herself at the center of a huge campaign finance scandal. Edwards avoided jail time thanks to a mistrial, and Hunter came out with her memoir a hot second later. This is all background to this story about the “serial mistress” who came forward a couple weeks ago to defend herself and explain why she thinks it’s such a great idea to date married men. I see parallels in this story. Hunter has some similar twisted logic about why it wasn’t immoral or wrong to date a guy whose wife was dying of cancer. Only this serial mistress lady, Karen Kane, claims that she hasn’t broken up any marriages and thinks what she’s doing isn’t wrong.
Karen went on The Dr. Drew show last week, and it’s kind of fascinating to watch her say the same things she’s written. She seems to truly believe these things, she isn’t just some PR shill for a cheater’s website. I mentioned in earlier coverage that I e-mailed with her quite a bit, and she even sent us an exclusive article for Celebitchy. When I wrote that she was charming in e-mail, some of you said that she may have sociopathic tendencies. She comes across so smooth and sure of herself in this interview. Here’s what she said on Dr. Drew, and a video clip is above:
It was another eye-opening episode of HLN’s Dr. Drew during his sex and relationship themed show Wednesday night.
Joining Dr. Drew was self-proclaimed serial mistress Karen Marley, who took quite a lashing from HLN viewers during the live broadcast. Marley, 45, said she has had affairs with more than 50 married men, noting that she doesn’t want to “steal your husband;” she just wants to “borrow him.”
“Married men are actually well trained,” she told Dr. Drew. “They have been taught how to behave around a lady — and so it is quite nice to be treated well.”
But when relationship expert and “Loveline” co-host Simone Bienne took the floor, she expressed a few choice words for Marley.
“The attitude is delusional,” she said. “It’s narcissistic. It’s lazy and it’s cruel …women don’t do this to other women.”
Bienne added, “You don’t need to do this and you shouldn’t be doing this because, in my experience, working with mistresses, you might think you are OK for the first 50 guys, and the first 50 marriages and children that you’ll help put in therapy for the rest of their lives — but what you’re doing is you’re not taking any responsibility.”
Marley, though, feels that everyone is missing the point, stating that she has never broken up a marriage.
“I don’t want to break up any marriages,” she explained. “[And] if the marriage isn’t breaking up, I’m not breaking up the children,” adding, “I have a huge amount of self-respect for myself and I don’t necessarily sleep with all these men … men don’t necessarily need sex for it to constitute an affair.”
Later, Marley made it clear that she has never had a sexually transmitted disease “I’m not some kind of whore on my back 24/7,” she said. “I’m incredibly good friends with most of these guys,” concluding, “A mistress doesn’t have to be destructive … and none of the relationships have ever been in have been destructive.”
[From HLNTV.com]
I love how Dr. Drew tells her she just needs a pet. So she doesn’t want to have the responsibilities of a “full blown relationship,” but she wants the “respect” that married men can give her. Is she even for real? She only had two photos of herself with men, and one looked like it was taken in the early 90s. Maybe she’s just e-mailing with them or something and rarely meeting them. I like what Dr. Drew’s “relationship expert” Simone Bienne said: “Women don’t do this to other women.” Obviously some of them do. This one, Rielle Hunter, etc. The men are the ones who are doing it, and these women are right there with them. I have a problem with both of them, I don’t just blame the women. When one of the parties is out there telling us all about it and claiming she’s not in the wrong, it’s hard not to focus on her as the root of the problem. Again, if she’s even for real.
Oh, man!…This woman again? I’m out.
yeah, i’m also done with these euro tricks. and our homegrown ones as well, clearly.
Same here. I’ve simply had it enough with all of them already. Go back to wherever they came from, please. -_-
Exactly. She needs to learn how to read reactions. If nobody agrees with you, maybe you need to reevaluate your approach. I’m done.
+1
This woman is really getting on my nerves. She is the one who exposed the facts to the media, if she has sex with married man 24/7 or just once every month it doesn’t change anything, she is still a whore! STU now and disappear please, this world has so many problems already without the need of having these people on our magazines as well.
Actually, any woman that would sleep with another woman’s husband is nothing but a low life nasty wh*re. Maybe she should just keep her mouth and legs closed!!! REgardless of what she says, which, I believe, she is FOS, she most definitely couldn’t have too much respect for herself and her body.
and she’s probably diseased from sleeping with so many people. gross.
hmm, how does she know she never destructed a marriage, when she herself admitted to cut ties and run when found out. That’s cowardly, if you can’t stand the heat then stay the f-ck out of the bedroom.
while the man’s also at fault, maybe more so-she’s still delusional as to the part she plays..
This person should not be treated as a celebrity! Just like Monica Lewinsky, Rachel Uchitel, Rielle Hunter, etc., she is trying to grab the spotlight sharing her sexual experiences to gain attention, fortune, and fame. There is nothing admirable or fascinating about any of these “other women”–they all have questionable morals and inflated egos. Like her predecessors, she does not deserve interviews on Entertainment Tonight, blog entries on numerous websites, or any kind of book deal. Please don’t feed her ego or her pocketbook. As “sisters,” we should have more sense and pride than to encourage and reward this type of behavior!
I got news for you woman. Contrary to your delusional beliefs you are nothing but a fat nasty whore.
Ego as big as her ass.
Damn. That’s one big ego.
And as big as her mole.
She needs to get off her back and lay on her face a while because I am tired of looking at it. She is trashy, immoral and a insult to women and the institution of marriage. And if I was a man and this was best I could do, I would slam my di** in a car door.
I totally agree… Rather be neutered than sit in someone else’s bathwater. (Not to mention not finding her attractive at all in the first place).
I admit I was a Mistress for 6 months. For the first 3 months I had NO idea he was married, it wasn’t until I stumbled upon an article where he mentioned his wife that I found out. He is a born again Christian, a social worker and does tonnes of work for charity, so on paper a very nice guy.
Yes I was heart broken, I felt used and deceived. I felt he was cheating on me with HER. This may sound illogical but by this point I was deeply in love, to me he was all mine, I felt “how dare she get him when I clearly love him more”. These are the mindsets you have; just because you are a mistress doesn’t mean you don’t fall in love just like everyone else.
He talked about leaving her, I didn’t want this. My life was a mess of guilt, shame, jealousy and anger. We continued the relationship for another 3 months until it came to a head where he either wanted us to get serious and to move out and be with me or stop altogether and try to make things work with his wife. I told him to stay with his wife.
I am quite prepared and happy for all of the usual saintly fingerpointers on here to call me a whore etc. But I don’t care; I was in deep love with this man, this scoundrel. He made me happy and I made him happy. In the giddy heights of love it takes wild horses to stop the rollercoaster we can somehow find ourselves on.
I would also like to make one other comment; how many of us have been in a club / bar and flirted with a guy? Exchanged numbers? Kissed? Had a one night stand? Did you ask if he had a gfriend or wife stashed away? I bet you didn’t because its not something we should have to do, we trust that if a guy is saying he’s available then he is. I would estimate for every 10 instances of flirting / kissing etc you do, 2-3 of them will probably have a partner. Sounds about right doesn’t it? Does that make you a whore? I don’t think it does but everyone’s line is draw in the sand somewhere different, usually with you on the “right” side of it.
Let the flaming of me begin!
I’m not going to bash you. I think that given the fact that he lied to you directly or indirectly about his marital status makes you a victim just as much as his wife is a victim. Also, when given the opportunity to continue forward, you broke it off. Believe me, I think you did yourself a favor.
The thing for me is this, betrayal is a horrible thing. How and why would you want a man that basically betrayed you for the first three months of your relationship? He proved himself dishonest, untrustworthy, and he had the gall to make a decision for you i.e. sleeping with you w/o telling you he was married which should have been your decision to make.
Lastly, the person that you are in love with should make you feel good about yourself. I don’t think I could be in love with someone who made me feel used or complicit in adultery. If the cost of being in love is not being able to face yourself in the mirror (and I couldn’t) then that cost is too high and should tell you that this is the wrong person for you.
**sorry for being so long-winded
“let the flaming of me begin”. . Are you high? Who talks like that? Ahahaha
No flames coming from this direction. While I don’t applaud the relationship, there are MAJOR differences between you and Karen.
1) you initially didn’t know whereas she seeks married men
2) upon finding out, you were devastated and felt guilt, while she relentlessly attempts to justify it
3) you put his family above your happiness when faced with the option. She claims to have never broken up a marriage but she conveniently ignores the fact that multiple marriages built upon lies are not exactly strong, intact marriages.
4) you’re not trying to profit from it. (just poke the bear a bit!)
You’re human and you corrected your mistake. I doubt you’ll go there again. Best wishes.
You’re missing the point. What you did was a mistake, but you had no idea he was married at first and you were actually in love with him. If you end up kissing or sleeping with someone who later turns out to be married or in a relationship, it’s not your fault they lied or kept information from you.
The thing is–This woman specifically seeks out married men and dates them for months at a time without any desire for commitment. She literally just enjoys dating and sleeping with another woman’s husband. She finds her dates and short-term relationships on a website geared for married people to cheat. Your situation is completely different and I don’t understand why you even compared the two.
Re: Why did she compare them?
For attention and validation.
Why would anyone flame you? As you said, you didn’t even know he was married for half the relationship. I think Karen Marley does make a good point, married men ARE better trained than single guys when it comes to relationships. You were in love with a man who, for all you knew, was available. And unless you are a robot, finding out he was married isn’t going to instantly erase your feelings for him. I understand fully why it would take time to extricate yourself from the situation. No one is blaming you here.
I don’t see much similarity in ur situation versus the cow in the video. U didn’t know he was married, u trusted that he wasn’t and u fell in love. I’ve never been in that situation, but I know how strong the feeling of love can be and I could see how easy it would be rationalize the situation. The fact that u didn’t immediately break it off, is not the same as choosing to become a mistress as a lifestyle, and then defending that lifestyle and taking no reponsibility.
I’m a big believer in consequences. Nobody is perfect and many of us have at least one incident in our life that were are truly ashamed of (not necessarily cheating), but if u do something terribly wrong take ownership of it. Repair what u can, and don’t make the same mistake again.
As for the bar scenerio, we meet people and we trust that they are unattached. I’m assuming most of us would walk away if we saw a wedding band, or tan line of a wedding band. But, even people who have a one night stand spend some time talking, and I would hope that it would come up in conversation, if not it should be a direcct question. I can’t say I have never had a one night stand, but if I suspected he was married, I would walk way.
I think this “expert” Simone Bienne should try to be more “expert”.
Take any dating site (for example ere in Germany) and you’ll see that nearly the HALF of the members are WOMEN.Ohhhh, sister we DO that to each other allright.
My 2 cents for every such story are that in each broken marriage there are THREE people responsible. Wives are not always the poor darlings.
Please don’t cover her stupid, imaginary, wishful-thinking. She is mental and NOT a celebrity.
Why anyone would have a person like this on their show is beyond me. Seriously, how could anyone possible benefit from listening to this woman’s advice? . This woman is not a professional mistress. . . She’s a professional fame whore. A real mistress knows how to keep her mouth shut. This is the reason I stopped watching tv. . . 90% of the stuff on tv is used to upset you or to get a rise out of you. Please make this woman and her gigantic mole go away!
Indeed! And I can’t imagine how all these men could have contact with her (sexual or otherwise) and manage to focus on anything other than THAT ENORMOUS MOLE.
Talk about denial. Yes, having an affair with a married man makes you a whore, period. This woman is a total narcissist.
I don’t necessarily sleep with all these men … men don’t necessarily need sex for it to constitute an affair.
As I thought, she isn’t a “serial mistress”. She meets married guys who, for the most part, see her as a confidant only – the fat, unattractive, female friend who most wives don’t care if their husbands hang out with. A few of the sleazier guys have actually slept with her, but that is the exception. These “affairs” are all in her head.
Exactly. She wants to be seen as scandalous, but hasn’t actually slept with that many men. She’s misusing the terms “mistress” and “affair” to make herself seem exciting and desirable, though she’s really just a sad sack.
The previous post about her had a link to her site. It was chock full of links to fanfic type porn, lots of it about mistresses. I think she’s she’s a nutbar trying really hard to live out a romance novel scenario.
She’s just one bad apple… I’m kinda shocked there are apparently 50-someodd married men who were willing to break their vows for her. It’s the GUYS I’m grossed out by.
She’s just like a revolving door you have to push. They touch it (her) only because they have to in order to get what they want…Be it out of a building or into some easy action with a woman who has no self respect.
But she is not delusional, she knows full well what she’s doing. It stems from insecurity, which causes her to need that attention to feel good about herself. She chooses married men deliberately, so she can feel superior to the wife, convincing herself that she’s ‘won’ some competition.
She just tells herself that she has no responsibility here, seeing as she isn’t married. If the man is married, then he’s the only one who has to answer to his wife.
She’s truly pathetic. Bet she can’t even remember the names of all the men she’s been with.
I, for one, am not going to judge her. If she wants to live her life that way, it’s no skin off my nose. I also don’t think she’s a sociopath, and she may not even be a narcissist. She’s someone who’s chosen what she wants and as far as I can tell doesn’t get pregnant, tell all about the man/men, and torture the wife either. So, while I don’t think a whole lot about her lifestyle, she wouldn’t have it if there weren’t a lot of husbands looking for something outside the marriage. THERE is where the story is. If the marriage was healthy, they wouldn’t be with her.
And, before you start, I’m married and my husband cheated on me once. We worked through it, I forgave him, and we’re good.
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck…
And waddles like a duck.
Ha ha, yup!
Well,at some point she would have to get up to take a wee…
ha! awesome
Would people give her an easier time if she were skinny and pretty, I wonder? They gave Ashley Dupree a relationship advice column, let’s not forget, and she was an escort.
First of all, Simone needs to STFU. Having sex with someone is not “giving your body away.” What century are we living in?
Second of all … so much hysteria over Karen. It’s a shame war and poverty don’t get people so worked up. Better to save your emotional energy for the things that count – some lady who goes out with men who are actively looking for an affair. If you aren’t doing the same, and you’re not concerned your husband is looking for women like Karen, why the *level* of rage?
WHAT is this site’s obsession with this old used up tramp?
I know someone who was a real serial mistress and who was skinny and gorgeous and only dated married men. We were roommates for several years and every time I came home and there was a man on the couch my first question to her was “How long has he been married” because honestly she was not interested in single men.
And so many of them had newborns at home. Guys she knew that were single and she showed no interest in, the minute they got in a serious relationship she was practically giving them a blow job in public.
She even cheated on her married men – one hired a private detective and had photos taken of her doing sexual things with other men in the parking lot at her office.
She met men online and flew to other cities to meet the men and told me she was going to visit her relatives – we (me and her long-term married man lover) discovered this after he installed software on her computer. He had left his wife of many years to be with her. He knew she was lying to him after he had given up all of his retirement fund, inheirtance, etc just to be with her.
.Yes she had an STD (Herpes) and I am sure she was happily passing it along to all the married men. I think it was her goal.
I no longer associate with her because her pathology of screwing married men eventually impacted our friendship – a long story that could be made into a movie – but I am sure she is still only dating and screwing married men and happily passing on her disease!
Now she’s just being a famewhore. Go away, nobody wants to see your chunky ass anymore.
She may not be on her back 24/7 but I do think she’s some kind of whore.
So, she’s a woman that chats with married men and goes to dinner occasionally? How did this become newsworthy again?
BTW on behalf of married men I resent the word “trained”. Maybe we’re married *because* we treat women decently, not because our wives “trained” us.
Also, borrowing *anything* without asking first is crass. 🙂
Jay, the ‘trained’ thing irked me as well. We’re talking about adult men, not puppies. My LT boyfriend, amazingly, knows how to ‘behave’ in front of all sorts of people, no training involved. I, on the other hand…
ETA: she’s 45? really?
excellent point. i would never think to “train” my husband, it would never occur to me to change him. he’s amazing the way it is, that’s one of the million reasons we’re married. 🙂
Hopefully she’s getting well paid for her TV appearances so that she can afford to get that wart removed from her face.
What’s up with that gigantic jaw-nipple?
Unless your partner is incapable of making decisions for themselves, if they cheat on you it’s THEIR fault not the other man/woman’s. While its not particularly nice to deliberately go after someone you know has a partner the fact is you shouldn’t expect loyalty from random people. Blame the person who cheated on you not the person they cheated with.
“Dr” Drew giving this piece of sh*t the time of day on his program is exactly why he has sold out and become a joke.