Here are some new photos of Katie Holmes making yet another trip to Whole Foods in Chelsea, today, Friday. I’m surprised Katie didn’t bring Suri! I hope Katie left Suri with someone she trusts, like a family member or ten burly bodyguards. Or all of the above. I have to give Katie so much credit here – she’s playing the media so, so well. Some celebrity women in her position would choose to hide out, parceling out the public appearances and candid photo ops gradually. Katie has been photographed nearly every day this week, hasn’t she? And these are not undercover outings either – it’s almost like she’s inviting dozens of paparazzi to document her movements. It’s protection for her, of course, because we’re worried about her and we want to see her out and about. But it’s also got an old-fashioned reason too: these photos help sell Katie’s version of events. She lives in New York. She’s a hands-on mom. She’s going to fight for custody in New York because she’s a single mom in the city, doing her best. All while Tom is a workaholic who is more interested in E-meters than his daughter.
Bedhead covered many of the latest developments and stories from the past 24 hours, but there are a few “breaking news” pieces that I wanted to get to. In convenient bullet points:
*Radar says Katie will be at a family law courthouse on July 17 for her first divorce hearing, and at that hearing Katie will “formally request temporary child support” from Tom Cruise. A source says, “Katie’s legal team will be requesting temporary child support to cover living expenses and the added security she has hired since her split from Tom. Tom’s Los Angeles lawyers have officially been given notice. Tom’s New York lawyer will appear and it’s undetermined at this time if Tom will be in court also because he is currently shooting a movie. His lawyer could also petition the judge for a temporary visitation order at that time. Katie will be in court and ready to testify at the hearing if needed.” Haha, Tom is probably going to have to pay for all of the extra security Katie hired to protect herself against his crazy cult. LOL.
*Radar also claims that Tom can’t legally file for divorce in California because “it is not possible to file in separate states at the same time.” OMG, Katie is a legal genius!!!! A source says Tom will have no choice but to fight this thing (at least initially) in NYC: “Tom will have to file a formal response to Katie’s divorce petition in New York, and he is going to submit a motion to have the case dismissed because he believes it isn’t the proper venue. Tom is hopeful that New York will do the right thing and allow him to file in California.”
*Sources say Katie is amazingly prepared: “Katie has gotten top notch legal advice because the case will remain in New York for the near future. Important issues coming up include temporary child support. Katie clearly has the upper hand in the proceedings at this point. It can’t be emphasized enough that she took these extraordinary measures to protect her daughter, Suri.”
*TMZ has a story about Tom’s long-standing “control” of Katie, which started when they first got together. TMZ reports: “Tom Cruise controlled Katie Holmes like a puppetmaster … making every major and even minor decision in her personal and professional life … and in the end, she felt like she couldn’t breathe without his permission … this according to sources close to the actress.” Tom allegedly (or not so much) executed an “Art Kill” when Katie was promoting Thank You For Smoking back in 2005, and he wouldn’t let producers use any images of Katie being romantic or sexy with Aaron Eckhart. Then Tom wouldn’t allow Katie to make promotional flights with the cast of Batman Begins – instead, Tom made Katie fly in his private jet. Allegedly, Morgan Freeman was “disgusted” by the situation, although as one Tom-centric source says, “Wow, Tom offered her his private jet. How terrible for Katie.” Basically, as soon as Katie and Ton got together, he was manhandling her career and it wasn’t good.
Meanwhile, everyone seems to be waiting for Nicole Kidman to say something about this situation, although it seems more likely that Nicole is trying really hard to simply stay out of it. In my mind, she’s sympathetic towards Katie but Nicole has her own agenda and her crazy history with Tom and with CoS rivals Katie’s. A source tells Fox News, “Nicole won’t talk, wants her privacy, wants to be left out of this and they (she and Cruise) don’t speak much. Communication between her and Tom is very limited. Nicole really does not want to be dragged into this or say anything to anyone. At some point though, she will probably be forced to say something, and she will most likely support Tom for the sake of their children.” See? Team Kidman is already softening the field so that Nicole won’t get hit too hard when she’s forced to come out and defend Tom. In the past few years, more and more information has come out about what CoS did to Nicole, and how they manipulated Connor and Bella, and how they might have even orchestrated Tom and Nicole’s divorce after Tom “left the Scientology fold”.
Photos courtesy of WENN.
Yeah! That’s my Whole Foods!
You live in that neighborhood? I’m soooo jealous…GO KATIE!
@cmc – exactly! It is so funny that you mentioned being raised in Texas! My husband was military so my boys were raised all over the world but Texas was “home”. We ended up here in Austin. The year my son moved to NYC there seemed to be an influx of Austinites his age moving up there. Probably only 1/10 of them stayed, most moved back within the year, they just couldn’t cut it…of course, many of them didn’t have realistic expectations about life there, either (ummm, like you actually have to WORK for a living no matter where you live). My son lived in Williamsburg until his g/f got pregnant and they decided to raise him in a less congested area. They got a really nice apartment in very non-trendy Bay Ridge…but I have to admit, that area is super, super nice. Not trendy by any means but just a great area for family-oriented people. He still makes the round trip into Manhattan every day but feels the commute is worth it. He recently transferred back to his original store on Broadway from his store near Union Square so the commute is a little further now – but I love both locations. *sigh* You know that old saying about you hope your kids are able to do the things you were never able to do? Yeah, super jealous of my own kid, LOL!
I meant this as a response to ZenB!tch – I’ve schlepped 2 or 3 bags home on the train. More than that I get Fresh Direct; you order online and they deliver everything to your building. A Whole Foods is opening closer to where I live; I’ll be able to bring a shopping cart. I don’t have a driving license. LOL!
how the hell does anyone afford to live in nyc? you pay $1000/month for a small crappy studio apt so you can have the “nyc lifestyle.” ridiculous.
I wouldn’t call it ridiculous if that is the life you want. Not everyone wants to live in the suburbs in a three bedroom home. My middle son moved to NYC four years ago and he is doing very well for himself. Sure, he pays more for where he lives but he loves it. After the birth of his son (my adorable grandson!) he looked into transferring back to Texas but even with the lower cost of living he still comes out ahead in NYC. There are pros and cons to almost anywhere you live but it comes down to choice and what you want from life. I would love to be able to live there. I go as often as I can and do the frugal version but I still absolutely love it there.
I don’t understand how people afford to live in NYC either. Where I live the cost of living is significantly lower, but still it seems its not possible for people working the most common jobs available (retail, fast food) to live independently. It always requires roommates or significant other. New yorkers make me curious
Actually, my son does work retail. He is an assistant manager at a *popular brand name* clothing store. He supports himself, his girlfriend, and his son AND has disposable income. He did live with other rent paying roommates when he first moved there. Now, he does work long and crazy hours but I guess most people do who want to get ahead. He doesn’t get any help from us and is not in any kind of debt. Honestly, I probably wouldn’t do as well as he has. They do take advantage of doing a lot of free things like street festivals, going to parks, free shows, etc. They also moved to Brooklyn (which is not as cheap as it once was). I am pretty jealous, truth be told!
Some of us get paid more in general, too. Also there’s more to NYC than uber-expensive manhattan studios. Many people in their 20s/early 30s live with roommates or in the outer boroughs. I’m in a massive one-bedroom in a really nice part of Brooklyn and pay a fraction of what that would cost in Manhattan!
Also, NYC is amazing. I was raised in TX but now that I’m here, I’m so happy and love the atmosphere. There’s more to life than how much you pay for your apartment 🙂
NYC is super-expensive. I don’t think you can get a studio for $1k a month unless you’re sharing it. Unfortunately my family is here and unless someone offers me a good job elsewhere, here is where I shall stay. I was lucky enough to buy an apartment in ’98 and with the money I got for it a few years ago was able to get a 2 bedroom apt, but if that didn’t happen, I’d be living in a sh*tty studio too. I watch “HouseHunters” and always freak a little when I see a couple buying a 3 – 4 bedroom home for $300k. I’m also single, so moving out to the burbs to a house by myself isn’t that appealing, but if I had a family I’d probably do it. @cmc – hope you’re staying cool!
1) You don’t need a car.
2) It’s worth it. I don’t live in NYC any more and I wish I did. Museums, restaurants, shopping — and I’m not talking about high-end expensive stuff. Restaurants and shopping are cheaper in NYC because there’s so much competition. Plus, every neighborhood is like its own little small town. You know your grocer and the owners of all the local shops you visit, and people are incredibly nice once they know you. You’re sick? Let me get you that hot and sour soup right away, here I put in some extra stuff for you it will help, don’t worry about paying for it dear. Things like that. Totally worth it.
3) Rent is expensive everywhere. Factor in a car, car insurance, and gas money, and NYC isn’t that much more expensive than anywhere else. Plus the pay there usually takes apartment costs into account, which it doesn’t in, say, Tampa.
They have to cost more than that. A small studio in LA costs that.
I think I would get claustrophobic in NY after a while.
That and she is carrying that one little bag to Whole Foods? Buying groceries in NYC has always mystified me.
I drive to the market (even if it’s a block away – darned invisible cart fences) fill up the back of the SUV and drag them into my apartment in a couple of trips from the garage.
In NYC you carry them? I can’t carry 6 bags.
I was property manager for a building in San Diego, and my LEAST expensive studio loft was over $3K/month. And this was over 10 years ago.
There were only 5 lofts in the building, and 3 penthouses: one 1 story; one 2 stories; and one 3 stories. I’ve actually blocked out how much they cost per month, because of the sheer excess of it all.
I lived and worked in NYC for close to 15 years. In the early 90’s I was fortunate to live in a rent controlled apt. I scrimped and saved and bought my 1st place at 23 in ’94. My ex husband renovated it and of course it turned into condos. During that time we were living in another part of the city.
I loved not having to drive, the availability of anything you needed at all hours, whether it be meds, food, etc.
I loved the subway. My ex was wealthy and preferred that I take a car service but I loved taking the subway.
I loved the hustle and bustle. I met a slew of interesting, intelligent people.
I sold my place this year for a ridiculous sum of money. I made a good investment.
However, I do miss NYC. I live in the burbs in another state and while I love to garden, chat with my neighbors, etc., I miss the pounding sidewalks and street vendors and cool thrift and consignment shops.
My career and salary kept pace with NYC’s standards so I was very fortunate.
What is Katie doing in long jeans and booty shoes? It’s been incredibly hot.
hmmm… in that part of town, $1000/mo will get you about a HALF a studio (maybe). But living in nyc is something that, while expensive, and exhausting sometimes, is so exciting and intellectually stimulating that I wouldn’t trade it for the world. I work two jobs and I don’t make much money, but still this city’s worldliness one of the things I love about it. You can buy tiny bits of some of the world’s best foods, attend some of the best free or inexpensive programming anywhere, hop on public transportation to buy a re-sold book– all for peanuts. It just takes a little resourcefulness. For the strong of heart and curious of mind, this city is one of the world’s best playgrounds!
$1,000? That is hilarious. That was probably an accurate figure in 1998.
Living in NYC is a fabulous experience-it is positively Darwinian up in here.
I pay more than that (and I mean a LOT more) for a studio in Melbourne and I’m not even in the central district – people never believe me when I tell them rent in NYC is cheaper than here in Oz when you compare like with like. That said if I could get a green card I’d live in NYC in the world shittiest apartment – LOVE that city.
I can tell you’re really enjoying being smug about this, so I apologise for bursting your bubble, but it’s not exactly economic rocket science.
Speaking as someone who moved to NYC because I had to, and not because I wanted to, it’s pretty obvious that the “NYC Experience” doesn’t really have anything to do with it. (also, a thousand bucks for a studio made me snort. Try twice that, at least in the city proper.)
First of all, I get paid more. Most employers have cost of living built into their wages. Not everyone, of course, but most. My flatmate, for example, transferred from a retail store in the rural South to one in NYC and immediately was given at least a 30% wage increase just for being here.
Second of all, I have infinitely fewer expenses. Yes, my rent is more expensive, but I have zero transportation costs – no car, no insurance, no parking, no gas, no repairs, and my employer reimburses the cost of public transit. Yes, I will never own a home here, but I also don’t pay property taxes, most of my utilities, any kind of maintenance or random other expenses. Shit breaks, my super fixes it. It’s actually pretty nice.
Third, NYC is actually not that expensive in almost every category except housing. Housing causes a hell of a lot more but everything else is almost identical once you actually break it down – food, etc. My husband and I were bored once (we’re… weird) and decided to see how little money we could feed ourselves on while still eating healthy, and got it down to less than $100 a month for two people. And, the vast VAST majority of city-dwellers live in the outer boroughs, where things are much less expensive. I live in a “ghetto” neighborhood in Brooklyn, and I have a lovely 4-bedroom apartment for less than a studio would cost you in most or all of Manhattan. It’s actually pretty close to my brother’s mortgage on his 3-bedroom house in the Baltimore suburbs.
Most people here don’t own homes, and a lot of us have roommates, and we’re actually okay with that – I love having roommates. I could even afford not to but I like having these folks around, and it allows me to save a LOT more for my future because I’m living well below my means. Well that and one of them is my husband, who I couldn’t get rid of if I tried 😛
People’s priorities are different than yours and that doesn’t make them intrinsically wrong. I know it’s a shocker.
Ironically enough, there is a lot of accommodation in NY that is much cheaper than other parts of the world.
In Sydney, Australia, the average price for a studio apartment in the city is more than the 1000 per month in NYC.
E.g. at the current exchange rate, the average unit in Sydney is around $500 per week, which is US$510.00.
At four weeks, that’s well over $1000 a month, and we’re talking about a city that doesn’t even have half of the cultural events that NYC has. As an added bonus in Australia, people can also look forward to the highest carbon tax in the world. In fact, NYC was recently ranked cheaper than Sydney.
Reason I’m stating this: I don’t live in NYC. I’m ‘existing’ in Sydney.
Oh, Tom, what a mess you are in!!! You will either have to choose Suri and go to court with all that Scientology stuff exposed, or you will choose Scientology and lose Suri. I wonder which one you will choose?? My money is on Scientology.
Does anyone else think she looks younger and better since the divorce stuff came out? Can someone regress in age 10 years in one week?
ha ha, I was about to say the same thing! She looks better in these phots than she has in a long time. With all this coming out how long has she been secretly preparing for this shit? A year?
Was thinking the exact same thing. The difference mental anguish will do to a person when it’s lifted. She wasn’t taking care of herself and now she is. She seems to have finally dyed her hair. And use skincare products.
I was just thinking that! Katie looks her age now, not ten years older. I never had much of an opinion about her, but now I’m totally Team Katie.
I agree. She looks a lot younger and lighter. I dare say finally leaving Tom has lifted a huge weight off her shoulders. I hope she finds someone nice when she’s ready.
I know, right?! I love how young, pretty and stylish she looks!
It’s like she suddenly recovered from some crazy illness.
BTW, I LOVE those jeans! Katie has sort of bigger thighs, but those jeans make her look thin and athletic and well proportioned! Unless she lost 10 pounds in a day, which seems unlikely.
Bottom line, I want those jeans!
I think she looks thinner. Maybe Tom had her on some tranquilizers which made her look bloated. Who knows??
She has been eating, and has gained some weight… and I mean that in the most complimentary way. Like, an our-anorexic-daughter-has-responded-positively-to-treatment sort of weight gain.
I’m sorry, but her steak knife cheekbones on the cover of Elle were a cry for help.
I think those cheekbones were mostly make up and photoshop.
I agree, she looks good here!
My thoughts exactly.
Her skin looks amazing!
I was going to say the exact same thing. She looks happier, fresher, cleaner, and younger than she has in 5 years.
It’s all on purpose for public sympathy, but hey! Use all the cards in the deck.
co-sign ! i have never been a Katie fan, esp in the dept of thinking she had any style or was particularly pretty. but have to say she IS looking good in these pics during past few days. … but perhaps i am biased however given my surge of admiration for her to leave Cruise !);-)
i see she is back in her boots again, man they must be some comfortable boots nyc in freakin’ july?
Exactly, and the skin-tight jeans? Who can stand wearing those in NYC in the summer? (I lived there for three summers in the early 80’s with NO AC, and just about died!) But there she is, swingin’ along, cool as a cucumber, like she doesn’t have a care in the world. Bravo, Katie, for what you’re pulling off.
I was thinking her thighs look so much thinner. Stress related fluid retention?
I’m betting she is on what I like to call ‘The Divorce Diet’. Yes, she feels free without Tom’s control, but this is all still incredibly stressful for her and it’s likely that she is not eating much right now. I became nearly skeletal from stress during my divorce.
She looks so much calmer and happier. Good for you Katie, stay strong.
that’s exactly what i was gonna say!
She does look fantastic (like a 175 lbs and the weight of Xenu have been lifted off her shoulders).
she looks just GREAT ! Better than she has for YEARS! Happy and healthy ! good for you Katie ! we are pulling for you !
It’s the hair imo. She had all these short aging cuts when she was with Tom. Now her hair is long again and the ponytail really suits her.
oh my goodness, is that a smile???
I think she is smiling because I am sure every single person she runs into in NYC is telling her she is doing the right thing and offering support. It’s what I would do.
I keep thinking if I see her out, I’m totally going to shout “Team Katie!” or tell her we’re rooting for her (although I assume her bodyguards won’t let anyone near her).
She looks relaxed, happy and relieved. What she is facing in terms of custody, etc. probably doesn’t seem quite so bad, when she thinks to herself that hey, I did it! I got rid of a controlling, cult freak who was stifling every aspect of my life. No matter what else, I am free!
Yes, those pictures are definitely what freedom looks like.
@cmc you can always ask the guard closest to you to pass along your good wishes to Katie 🙂
She looks like a completely different person from the raggedy exhausted mess she portrayed two weeks ago! I’m becoming amazed with this woman…
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While you’re cleaning house… dump the boots for petes sake!!!
Ugh, those boots! They must be the comfiest boots ever, given how often she wears them.
I have a few similar pairs (have for a decade, at least), and mine are Aerosoles. They are very comfy!
Lots of celebs wear those booties and wear them ALL THE TIME (Kate Bosworth, Diane Kruger). They must be the best ever.
and Russell Brand. Only his are grey/dirty. They’re always suede and get dirty which to me is why they look so bad.
Nobody ever heard of spraying 3m stain resistant on their shoes first?
I thought I was the only one who thought those boots were fugly…
I don’t even hate the boots anymore, that’s how much Team Katie I am. I like to imagine she used precisely those boots to walk out of Tom’s life.
Those boots were made for walkin, and thats just what’s she’s gonna do, walk right out on Tommy Boy!!!
Thank you Tom Cruise, Katie Homes, and Xenu for making this a summer of supreme gossip!!! Team Katie all the way here, by the way :D.
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Yes, this is the summer of gossip supremo. I am checking the web sites every hour or so. I know it is such a baaaaad thing to do!
I don’t really understand why everyone expects Nicole Kidman to comment on the divorce filing. Why should she, necessarily? Since when do celebrity exes comment on current divorce proceedings? When Ashton and Demi split, did everyone demand a public statement from Bruce about it? Nicole’s not gonna say anything to make it *worse* on the relationship she already has with the kids. It will just make her look like a “sociopath” (eye roll!)
I just wonder if Nicole is talking behind the scenes to Katie. And I can’t believe that she would say anything positive about Tom. He ruined her life and turned their children against her. They’re grown now and unlikely to be hurt by anything she’d say in support of Katie, who’s trying to protect Suri from the same thing.
They’re grown now and unlikely to be hurt by anything she’d say in support of Katie
Google ‘scientology disconnection’ and you will understand why Nicole won’t speak out.
She is doing the exact same thing Katie’s parents have been doing the past five years: Staying neutral and within reach so her children will (be allowed to) maintain contact with her. If they ever decide they want out, you bet that she will be there to help them and fight for them.
It’s sad to me that people recognise and admire what Katie’s parents have done while calling Nicole Kidman a coward. The more she ‘fights for her kids’ the harder she will drive them into the arms of the cult. The neutral waiting approach is what cult deprogramming specialists recommend. It just hasn’t paid off yet – and it might never. But I can still see how from her point of view it’s the best thing to do.
Yes, I live near and work in NYC. I saw the boots and jeans and could not concentrate on the story. It was in high 90’s here today and will be 102 degrees tomorrow. What? Huh? Is she really ok?
I don’t think Nicole will get involved either. Katie will be fine and so will Nicole. Nicole has 2 young children to care for right now. And while to me, pictures of Bella are troubling, she always looks sad. Conner seems fine. Both are old enough to visit their Mom if they choose. Besides if this eventually involves Nicole, I will never be able to leave this website. I have to go back to work Monday 🙂
You can’t log on at work? Gosh I’d have to find a different job.
@Lantana says:
I can log on. I am(old)mature, it’s too much to focus on my work and this much gossip. I admire all those who can 🙂 I am way out of my league here!
ETA I am sure you could find a different job. I am almost done, I think I’ll stay 🙂
I think Nicole would be wise to stay out of it. If she’s subpoenaed (as some sort of character witness or something) she doesn’t really have a choice.
But I think expecting a statement from her is ridiculous and rude.
No doubt. It was a really painful breakup for her and her children were turned against her. Leave the poor woman alone. If she didn’t lash out at CoS for her own sake, why on earth would she do it for her ex-husband’s subsequent, much younger wife.
I wouldn’t do it for my ex’s soon-to-be ex.
Tom treated Nicole HORRIBLY.
Isn’t it like 100 degrees in NYC this week? And she doesn’t seem to be sweating at all – she really IS cool as a cucumber!
It’s supposed to be 93 today, and 98 tomorrow. It’s like walking into an oven. She needs to dump the booties!
so just fyi … that whole foods is in the same building as her apartment so she can really dress however she likes in the heat because she’s literally outside for… a minute? before walking in their cool air conditioning.
people are nuts. shes clearly going from air-conditioned place to air conditioned place. why all the temp-trauma? sheeesh.
My only complaint about this is… those booties, they’re horrible.. yes, that was extremely superficial and I’m ok with that..
Can I just say after reading several posts (Lainey’s included) that I kinda love her dad.. I wonder if he started making her exit plan when she said “I DO”
She is looking good.
Why, hello again brown boots! I see you’ve decided to stick around for the summer months . If only you could talk, because you sure have seen a lot of pavement….
I just screamed out loud in laughter. OMG! That was too funny to me.
Reiterating what I said when this story broke last week:
1. Katie’s dad is a divorce lawyer, which is invaluable in a situation like this. The creepers at Co$ are not going to have an easy go at this as they have in the past breakups of cult members.
2. Nicole’s silence is golden! Tom and Co$ have and will continue to do enough damage to themselves that Nicole doesn’t need to add any fuel to the fire which is a big help to Katie…why blend the old with the new. Keep it focused on the today with what has/is being done to Katie and Suri.
3. Tom is going absolutely nuts in private. Nothing worst to a narcissist then having all this attention paid to Katie. Of course he can’t be medicated because there is no treatment for narcissism. As for his status as one of the top 3 in Co$, no amount of deprogramming could salvage that wee part of his brain.
This will be an epic battle in divorce cases in the US and I do believe good will concur evil and Katie and Suri will be able to go on and heal and move on to a better life!
I disagree. I think Katie has set it up so good that it won’t go nuclear. It will get ugly for a while, but before we know it it will be privately settled behind closed doors. Even above Scientology is Cruise’s career for him. He is back on top. He almost lost his career and took years to build it back and his image back. He isn’t going to risk losing it again with too much dirt coming out.
Jayna…I don’t see how you think Tom is on top again and regained his career? I mean Rock of Ages was just a huge commercial flop and the studio lost big time money. Put a fork in him…he is done as a marquee actor.
This has already been a bit epic in the last week and we haven’t even gotten in front of a judge yet! Just look what has come to light because of this…the head of Co$ wife has not been seen in 5 years? He is Tom’s best friend? This will not be handled quietly and behind the scenes because of Suri (unfortunately). Tiny Tom’s narcissism won’t let him end this quietly because Katie is willing to fight for her and her daugther’s absolute freedom. Stay tuned!
I respectfully disagree. I don’t think he is back on top. He is an old man by Hollywood standards and then the religion thing. The reason why I am reading about them, is because of Katie,
he basically smothered her from the very beginning.
Oh, baby, (and I mean this with all due respect) don’t hold your breath.
It’s going to go nuclear, at least for the CO$. There are too many survivors and escapees of CO$ who want to see this blow the lid off that cult.
@Chatcat – Jayna is right. None of this will affect his career or box office status. If you take absolute numbers, you’ll see that very few people know and/or care about his involvement with CO$. He is not an actor/star who is dependent on a specific fan base. Outside of the US no one is bothered or concerned about CO$. Sure Rock of Ages bombed, but MI:4 made more than $700 million from global box office. Millions of people watched MI-4 not because they were Cruise fans. They saw the film because it was a good action movie plus the hype about Cruise climbing the world’s tallest building. Studios continue to invest in him and that’s because he’s a ‘global’ box office star.
“Tom is going absolutely nuts in private. Nothing worst to a narcissist then having all this attention paid to Katie.”
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It has to be killing Cruise.
There is nothing worse than to lose all control, over what he considers to he his property.
And here is Katie.
Looking like she has zero f*cks to give.
I bet he is a screamer in private. Just looses his sh*t, kind of screamer. Kicking the walls. Stomping his feet on the ground. Till he breaks a heel. 🙂
Spot on! I can see it now.
He turned 50, and she shed 50 years by he looks of it.
And the bulging veins on his neck…
@Hautie…smirking as images of Tiny Tom having hissy fits and kicking the furniture like a petulant 5 year old 🙂
@Tiff…she does look so much more relieved. You go Katie!
Is he really that short? Anyone ever seen him in person?
LMAO at the visual!
I see him going all “Rock Star Trashing His Hotel Room” and screaming, throwing, and breaking stuff.
Yes, he’s short. IMDB lists him at 5’7″ but my bf (who worked with him on Interview with the Vampire) says he’s maybe 5’6″, and that’s generous. Also said Cruise was a nightmare until Nicole came for visits, and then he was polite and a total pro. Night and day.
I have said this a few times but… I was a cocktail wiatress at an event where Tom and Nicole were. A paparitzi sp? was takeing pictures of them and he very hissing and angry told his gaurds to get the camera and Nicole was in a panic to kick off her heels so he would not look short… I am 5 3 and even with his frankenstein shoes (lifts) he was only about 5-7 then he pretended to the guy that it wasn’t him that wanted the film all shucks etc.. bought the guy a drink. Somehow Nicole got her shoes changed to flats we talked about it all night in the bar.. he was so mad and red! jerk!
ROTFL!!!
I do retain a tiny bit of sympathy towards the father in him that is being kept away from Suri. If he has a shred of humanity in him (questionable, I know) that has got to be hurting.
There *IS* no narcissism. There are no personality disorders or mental disease in Scientology. There isn’t even autism. Why? Because L Ron Hubbard was a nut job and psychiatry is the work of Xenu!
From Xenu’s wiki:
—————————————-Xenu was about to be deposed from power, so he devised a plot to eliminate the excess population from his dominions. With the assistance of psychiatrists, he gathered billions[4][5] of his citizens under the pretense of income tax inspections, then paralyzed them and froze them in a mixture of alcohol and glycol to capture their souls. The kidnapped populace was loaded into spacecraft for transport to the site of extermination, the planet of Teegeeack (Earth).[5] The appearance of these spacecraft would later be subconsciously expressed in the design of the Douglas DC-8, the only difference being that “the DC8 had fans, propellers on it and the space plane didn’t”.[21] When they had reached Teegeeack, the paralyzed citizens were unloaded around the bases of volcanoes across the planet.[5][8] Hydrogen bombs were then lowered into the volcanoes and detonated simultaneously,[8] killing all but a few aliens. Hubbard described the scene in his film script, Revolt in the Stars:
Simultaneously, the planted charges erupted. Atomic blasts ballooned from the craters of Loa, Vesuvius, Shasta, Washington, Fujiyama, Etna, and many, many others. Arching higher and higher, up and outwards, towering clouds mushroomed, shot through with flashes of flame, waste and fission. Great winds raced tumultuously across the face of Earth, spreading tales of destruction …
—L. Ron Hubbard, Revolt in the Stars[7]
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My boy Xenu hung out with mental health experts. Xenu is the enemy of L.Ron Hubbard who I think was schizophrenic.
wow,she looks so young and fresh in these pictures,i almost not recognising her,what a wonder
I hope now her career takes off like Nicole’s but I expected the same from J Aniston’s.
Isn’t her father a lawyer? I bet he is helping her A LOT.
Katie looks like how I picture Anastasia Steele.
Considering the fact that Katie seems to have started aging backwards since leaving Tom, who knows? She could be the right age to play her by next week!
Er, she comes from a family of lawyers. She’s getting good advice, can you stop with the LEGAL GENIUS!!! hyperbole?
Being raised by a lawyer or two, the girl probably thinks like a lawyer. Doctors’ kids consider medical issues, lawyers’ kids hear all about rights, wrongs and lawsuits at the dinner table, and therefore learn to cover their bases when in sticky situations.
I agree – “Legal Genius” is not a necessary term when it comes to simply keeping your ducks in a row and covering all your bases. It’s just advised common sense in her case.
A persons’ parents profession is big influence on them. Katie thinks in family law.
One of my friends is the daughter of a defense attorney. She thinks in terms of innocent people being wrongfully accused while the rest of us think in terms of how many more years can that m*therF….. get?
On the flip side Dennis Hopper died owing her dad his fee for getting him off on a DUI. I just thought I would throw that in there because I never liked Dennis Hopper and this is a gossip site.
Lose the Xenu boots Katie. They are ugly, and they were a big part of your old life, and no one, including Suri, wants to see you in them anymore. We are supporting you like mad, now do something for us, and lose the Xenu boots. Please.
They’re probably bugged!!
I, for one, like the boots. They’re her signature. If they make her happy, so much the better.
Maybe they were kind of a comfort blanket to her during her last few months with TC.
the stories about Cruise “art killing” Holmes during Batman Begins/Thank You For Smoking is known since the beginning:Cruise even didn’t want that she ‘s next to Bale on the pics
That could be to her advantage now though since the Co$ is probably trying to dig up dirt on her…they won’t be able even to make up that she had an affair with a costar or anything of the like. Go Katie!
I thought the same thing! I do remember rumors they had to edited after one screening to take some of the scenes from thank you for smoking…
I can understand Nicole’s need to stay mum,its really not her place AND she probably has some lingering beef with Katie and the “mom” thing. Although I am going to guess that hand might have been a bit forced by TommyGirl himself, given that the children were also allowed to spend time in the presence of people who spoke ill of their real mom.
I DO HOWEVER find it odd/ironic that Sandra Bullock, a former co-star of Nicole’s (Practical magic, anyone?) was of some support. Perhaps Nicole will not directly support Katie but is doing it behind the scenes, her kids after all are still a part of the CO$ … she has some risk at stake.
I can’t believe anyone believes the Sandra Bullock story. Not everything on gossip sites or rag mags is gospel truth. No one but her immediate circle and legal team knew what she was up to as she pretended to Tom differently. It was like a secret military operation. Yet, we are supposed to believe she contacted Sandra Bullock, an actress, she casually knows for advice and somehow she confided to someone else about the Sandra connection and that got out to gossip media? Uh, right. I believe in Santa Claus, too.
Phew well at least you set me straight, consider me also a believer in anything you say too 😉
*Saved by Jayna from the lies of Gossip!!!
Hey don’t pick on Santa Claus what did he do to you?
although I think she allowed herself to be blindsided in the beginning, she has grown up so much and you can see the transformation from young and impressionable to mature and shrewd. she is a good woman with an enormous love for her daughter. I commend her for what she’s doing and how she played it. perfectly executed! go Katie…get that short SOB!! can’t stand his robotic lift wearing fake ass!
here’s how i like to imagine Katie spending her nights…a few hours after she’s read Suri’s bedtime story and kissed her to sleep…this scene goes down around 12 midnight:
she’s donning head-to-toe black: black leather jeans, a black tank top, black 5″ Louboutin boots and black leather fingerless gloves, hair in classic slick back pony w/ extra gel, black eyeliner, blood red MAC lipstick.
in a room on the opposite wing from Suri’s bedroom she’s huddled with her lawyers, security bruisers, & her loyal pops smoking a cigarette with one foot up on the desk going over ‘her’ surveillance tapes of Tom.
“ok, are we clear on tomorrow’s agenda fellas? now, let’s hit this f–ckin’ twirp where he lives…(exhales smoke, shines trademark smirk)”
end scene.
lol 😉
Now I’d like to see that made into a movie. 🙂
Then she goes into her private gym and practices her katana moves, all “kill bill”-like.
Whilst humming “You Don’t Own Me” 😀
Nice!
Here is my image of what Katie Holmes is doing in her new apartment after Surie has been put to bed:
After Surie is asleep, Katie changes into yoga pants and a comfy tee shirt, gets a bottle of Sauvignon Blanc out of the fridge, keeps her cell phone nearby within arm’s reach ‘just in case’, and settles in for a nice looong session of reading all the thousands and thousands of articles and comments supporting her from people everywhere in the world.
It must be very satisfying!
I lIke that.
She should have been Catwoman!
You never know the true strength of a woman until she is pushed.
lol, I love that the Tom and Katie saga is now inspiring its own fan fiction!
Goes to show you should never call anyone dumb.
You never know what is holding someone back, what will push them to go forward, what will motivate them to change and how much they can do when given an opportunity.
Clearly when people were mocking her as a do-nothing miserable woman she was scheming and planning all along in a way many women would never be able to.
Go Katie!
Couldn’t agree more. Sometimes you have to play dumb zombie to escape.
So true, she outsmart all of us! lesson learned!
Ditto.
I feel like women are rallying around her so much because… she’s like that friend who everyone has had who is in a shitty relationship… and finally comes to her senses and gets out. Rihanna was sort of like that, but that was obviously a lot darker and she sort of went back. But Katie sort of represents being liberated from that dick guy who we all know a version of.
She is SO hitting home for me as I have been looking for an apratment this week, putting together a budget with my measley paycheck and FINALLY getting away from my control-freak yell at you for 5 minutes for not using a coupon on coffee husband. I’m taking my barstools, son’s bed, vintage bar (of course), tv and a tiny playroom couch and will be the HAPPIEST woman alive!
Go Katie!
That is AWESOME! Good for you for getting out!
And go Eileen!!
Props Eileen. Gotta love a strong woman.
PROPS and high fives for eileen! <3
Yea Eileen!!!
Eileen, that sucks, but I wish you well and know you will be fine. 🙂
Best of luck to you both.You’ll both be better of for it in the long run.
I’m sorry Eileen. Maybe some time apart will wake him up.
eileen – every woman in this world deserves to be treated like the queen she is and worshipped by her mate. If he yells at you, dump his azz forever. It’s not worth it and your nerves will be much calmer. Angry control freak people suck to live with.
I never rallied around Rhianna because she never seemed to get it. I truly believe that the only reason Rhianna ever left Chris Brown and never *totally* went back is the media scrutiny.
I do have a friend like that. Well now it’s more like an acquaintance. It’s hard to be friends with someone who keeps going back for more even though she has kids and has it worse than Katie ever did (as far as I know).
The main reason I am now acquaintances with this woman vs. friends is not her or being a totally fair weather friend. It’s that I can’t be in the same room with her husband knowing what I know about him. I also can’t stand seeing her FB page when she raves about how great he is.
I can totally see Rhianna being that woman if she was not being watched so much. She cares about her image even if she doesn’t care about herself (or maybe Jay-Z does).
After all that, I totally agree with you. Katie was in her 20s when she got involved with Tom and I don’t think he ever beat her or Suri. He’s a control freak and thought he could mold her but she was just a tad too old to totally fall for it. If she had been 22 vs 27 it may have worked. And yes we’ve all been in stupid non lethal relationships.
Awww, Zen, I get that. It’s hard to not choke on his lies while you’re already trying hard not to choke on the truth.
I think we all know what it’s like to be in your position. “But he loves me!” If he loved you he wouldn’t beat you. If he loved you he wouldn’t blame you for his own mistakes. If he loved you he wouldn’t cut you off from all your friends. If he loved you he wouldn’t call you names. If he loved you he wouldn’t insult you because of how you dress, what you choose to eat, your level of education, or ANYTHING.
But she’s gotta be ready to wake herself up before she will. It’s just like with cult members and alcoholics — you simply cannot persuade them out of it. And standing there watching while they continue to hurl themselves into brick walls is heart-wrenching and amazingly frustrating.
Thanks @ the original. I scanned so many past post & what you imputed!
I love her..but I would love her more if they caught her outside her apartment jumping up and down on a yellow couch playing Danger Zone…..and grinning. She is my new role model.
If Katie went on a night show and jumped on the couch when she was asked about the divorce… OMG. People would start getting tattoos of her. No joke, she’d be exulted, LMAO. That would be the MOST PERFECT BURN EVER.
YES PLEASE.
Though of course she won’t, but it would be hilarious.
I LOVE this comment! LOL!
Katie looks younger because it’s like she took 190 pounds off her shoulders, that’s how much control Tom had on her. She looks relaxed and relieved, she knows the fans are on her side. You can tell she feels safe nothing bad will happen o her knowing the paparazzi are flashing away.
I think you can take it a step further and not say just fans but the public. Even people who didn’t follow her are on her side.
So true. She looks younger and happier.
she looks healthier and atleast her grey hair is gone
Rock it, Sistah!
All the pap’s photos from the past year of her out and about doing mundane things like food shopping or taking Suri to a restaurant or the park all make a very strong case for her claim of NY residency. Very smart and further evidence that this split is a long time in the making. With Tom off on movie sets constantly he has very little room challenge venue with. The paparazzi can be forces for good after all!
And you can be sure that every single pap photo detailing their day-to-day living in New York over the past years has been bookmarked, printed, and placed in a file to be attached to an affidavit. He is barking up the wrong tree if he wants to claim L.A. residency. Where are the “everyday outing” photos in L.A.? ‘Nuff said. This is SO great!
I honestly believe they have been living in NYC since her Broadway play back in 2008. I don’t remember exactly what year (either 2008/2009), but they all went to celebrate her birthday in December at Jo Jo restaurant (64st with lexington ave) and they were in NYC for days, If my memory is not failing me. So, either they used to spend a lot of time in NYC or they were already living there…
ps: When I write they I mean Katie and Suri (since Tom doesn’t live there,lol).
This is amazing, I’ve been waiting for this shitstain to get his comeuppance for years. He’s so inherently terrible it wouldn’t surprise me if his entire existence was orchestrated by Skeletor. Katie is awesome.
What about this angle… If Tom left the cult before with Nicole and the COS caused their divorce, what if all of this is a giant play to get Tom out too? He cannot risk choosing COS over his daughter and still have a shred of a career. But if he leaves the church publicly, all of a sudden he is a victim and a hero. This could all be a means to an end.
That is not going to happen because he will also lose his first tow kids. Just look at Conner and tell me he won’t turn on his father in a second they are two peas in a pod. As someone stated in earlier posts the Co$ emphasises the organization over family. So if someone defects they are out. so tommy would win Suri’s love but lose his first two kids. If this senario really does go down he is between a rock and a hard place.
@Busy – I was thinking on similar lines yesterday. I know a lot of this is speculation (not on CO$ but the divorce) and if we are speculating, then why not give Tom the benefit of doubt like we are doing with Katie? What if this was planned by both Tom and Katie, because this is only way to keep Suri out of CO$? I know this seems unlikely because Tom is neck deep in CO$, but I want him to get out of CO$ along with Katie, Suri and his older children. I want everyone else, all common folks, to be able to get out of CO$, including JT. If there’s someone who should go down, it’s Miscavige. It’s terrible to see that people like Cruise and Travolta have everything in the world materially but they don’t have freedom of thought and action because at some point in their lives they decided to seek spiritual or other guidance from this sham organization. And for what? To hide JT’s sexual orientation? I can go on a rant here because I’m very angry and depressed about everything I’m reading about CO$. The CO$ is a great example, but there are tons out there like CO$ that take advantage of people’s insecurities and low self-esteem. More importantly, what does this say about us as a society? That we like to box people into categories – gay, lesbian, bi-sexual, asexual, straight, black, white, colored etc and because we do this, we bring it upon people like JT to find a place to hide? To work out a sham marriage? This is so f*cking depressing!
Tom and John are CHOOSING to STAY in the cult and to have the cult pick their spouses and run their lives full stop. So they are unfortunately for them, “fair game” for those that want to persecute the cult due to its criminal activities. You will have run into that term “Fair Game”, so you know what that means. They will get as good as they give.
Unless they voluntarily get out, they will not garner any public favor. Just like anybody in the Mob. Collateral damage.
I feel for you if you are hurting because of tom and john’s being still bamboozled by the cult, but remember, they are not defecting. If they stay, they will continue to suffer due to their living a big fat LIE. But Katie is defecting.
If they publicly defected they would probably garner a hell of a lot of public support as well. However, there they sit on their raft of denial, denouncing everything except their precious crime org.
My advice is cut your losses and focus on supporting Katie, who is smart enough to split.
@gg – I’ve read so much about CO$ in the last 4-5 days, it’s been an OD frankly. I wasn’t hurting for TC and JT. I was angry that cults like this take advantage of people’s insecurities, not just of celebrities. However, they do seem to spend an awful lot of time targeting celebrities and we all know it’s for money. Then again, I’ve no sympathy for TC or JT. They have way too much money than I’ll ever see in my lifetime. They they can choose to stay, by choice or by force. I don’t care at this point.
What I do hope for is the downfall of Miscavige, mofo.
Cheers mira. It’s a lot of insanity piled on top of mental isn’t it? Who knew this could exist in this day and age. Disgusting.
It seems I missed something but it looks like he tried before and failed.
They brought him back and raised his rank. They seem to know everyone’s price. With Tom it’s power with JT it’s the closet. Still not sure how that one will end up but it looks like that auditing is to find out how these guys tick and get them to stay.
If TC thinks that Muscage (sp) dude is really his BFF he really is brainwashed.
Remember this photo from when Nicole signed the papers divorcing Tom?
http://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&source=mog&hl=en&gl=us&client=safari&tab=wi&q=nicole%20kidman%20after%20divorce%20signed&sa=N&biw=320&bih=356#i=12
That’s all I can think of when I see these recent photos of Katie!
Your picture defaults to Google homepage. I’m not surprised. It’s happened more often than not where the $cientolooney cult is concerned. They don’t want anybody looking at anything that could be linked to causes against the cult.
By the way, Google has been strongarmed for many years (and YouTube of course as well) by the Cult.
The controlling co$ tries to and frequently succeeds in infiltrating any and all media outlets that they possibly can, blocking Google searches, for example. Their lawyers work full-time papering everything and everybody on the planet trying to control browser results for the general public in the US. They have largely succeeded in the past.
Strong arming media outlets is bullying! Scientology doesn’t want free thinkers eh? It is so disgusting. They have sent memos to websites saying the people that post negative Scientology comments are hindering their civil rights.
People has a “kids and Scientology” article on their website that is very pro-Scientology and light years away from every other article about the same subject out now. Tom is clearly trying to do damage control.
Lainey had a reference to The Village Voice writer Tony Ortega. He seems to have followed the Co$ very closely throughout the years.
http://www.villagevoice.com/authors/tony-ortega/
+1! VERY interesting reading, and very damning.
I think that the daily appearances now are more to illustrate the “Controlled Kate” vs “Old Katie”
“you honor, I wasn’t even able to leave the apartment while we were married”
Or maybe the woman just feels like going on a walk since she’s free of Rumplestiltzkin. People go on walks when they’re happy!
Go Katie! Go Katie! Go Katiiieeee!!!!
“Wow, Tom offered her his private jet. How terrible for Katie.” – This is EXACTLY what I was saying in the previous post about controlling behavior being twisted and hard to prove. When it is stated that way of course it doesn’t look controlling but this is just one example of a controlling person. How sick and twisted. When you put all of his behaviour and the Co$ together you get one controlling manipulative situation. And that is what I said how funny it will be for tommy to have to pay for security to protect Katie from him and his goons. Ha-ha
Yes! Controlling people get you so-called presents and do so-called favors you don’t want all the time. They are masters of the white elephant.
Katie is NO INNOCENT, she knew she was WHORING herself for a career when she signed the dotted line. At least Nicole had the class enough not to get knocked up for a career.
DAVID:
Katie has her own money and career and is putting her child first – Unlike Tom Cruise. The only WHORE involved in this story is Tom Cruise.
Career? She used to have a sort of promising career before marrying Crazy Tom.
Anyway, your comment is misogynist.
Did you read the article or are there to many big words for you. Yes I’m being snarky (love that word)he killed her career. He wanted to be on set to control her and the director said no way and she lost her job. A whore as you call her must benefit in someway for her services how did Katie benefit?
Is your last name Miscavige?
LOL 🙂
Lmao!
And David-no. Just no. tom thought he was going to improve his image, Katie had hope for a career. Then he happened.
Bleh bleh bleh.
Go Katie!!!!!!!!!
Wrong David. Tom was whoring himself to get a young, beautiful wife to make HIMSELF look good.
Even if that were true, how did Tom Cruise fail to notice? He’s OT8! He’s supposed to be super human! How could pre-clear Katie possibly fool such an advanced human being?
Come to think of it, David Miscavige has had extended contact with Katie Holmes – he was even best man at their wedding. How did HE not notice she was only in it for her career? Surely as far up the bridge as he is he’d see through her right away?
🙂 You are awesome and fully hatted as the voice of critical reasoning.
I’m coming to love CO$ slang!
Yes she was. But I’ll bet you a million Suri isn’t Tom’s. He couldn’t have kids with Mimi, and Nicole’s miscarried baby was supposedly someone else’s. Tiny is shooting blanks.
WHY’D YOU PICK HER TO MARRY RUMPLESTILTZKIN THEN, DAVID?? I thought the cult vetted people a little better than this … 🙄
He never heard the old saying: “be careful of the quiet ones.”
Katie was young, sweet, malleable and trusting. Why shouldn’t she be? She had no reason to doubt or question she had spent 27 years around more or less nice people.
She is guilty of wanting a father for Baby Klein. She was trusting and perhaps a little desperate. TC said he would take care of her and the yet to be born baby as long as she said it was his. She didn’t understand the price she would pay for that.
At the time Suri was “the baby”. She hadn’t met Suri yet. She was doing what she thought was best for a yet to be born still abstract in her mind human being. When “the baby” became Suri – real live human she saw things differently. Slowly and steadily. It’s how you win a situation like this.
I’ve said this before, but apparently it bears repeating:
Can we please stop beating this drum?
Katie was a rube; Tom was one of the “hottest stars;” she confessed to crushing on him since childhood (probably one of the reasons she was chosen).
It’s not like Katie was following the TC/NK divorce like we’re following this one.
CO$ only ALLOWS you to know what they want you to know.
When Toto pulled back the curtain, Dorothy didn’t like the all-powerful Oz with which she was confronted.
Origbella – may have to repeat this a few more times to the troll squad; it’s not like they’re actually hearing any of it.
Ok first off scientologists they “black mail” celebrities or people with these sessions wherethey interrogate you and ask you thngs get you to confess things.. I mean Nicole will ultimately support Tom in fear of what will come out about herself… of course she wants to stay out of it! Lol…this is all very “Rosmarys baby” and its a little scary to think about. cAn you imagine the kind of pressure katie is under?
also the other children Conor and Isabella… they are like robots its really sad like programmed brainwashed children. Its sick and creepy… I wish katie would just blow Scientology wide open and lets the flood gates poor out… that cult needs to be shut down before they all drink the kool-aid…. I’m amazed that California could let such a thing exist… its Soo incredibly creepy.
What is CO$ classified as? Is it a religion? If so California can do nothing. The Feds would have to come in like they did with Warren Jeffs and the fake Mormon cult he had.
CO$ is harder to take down. What are they doing exactly that can be proved in a court of law? Unless there is rumor of a Jonestown or a Koresh, I don’t know that the Feds even have cause to come in to stop CO$. They are slimy and sneaky. Taking advantage of gullible people is not new to religion. Those guys on Christian TV who get donations from the poor to buy their Rolls Royces are the closest thing to CO$ and TBN which is also down in Southern Califonia (in conservative Orange County) is also alive and well.
As far as Katie’s case, it’s the same as a Catholic parent and a Muslim parent or a Jewish parent and a Hindu parent. The mother wants the child going to her religion’s school or public school or secular private school while the father is set on his religion’s school.
The one irony of CO$ is how they use psychological means to pick their marks.
O-m-g, what a difference a separation makes. Katie looks so young and shiny and happy, like a young woman living in the city. Go Katie, God bless you.
Funny I never posted much before this had made me go from reader to poster Katie Holmes is magical. Kidding sort of.
I love your screenname, BTW. I am a big Wilkie Collins fan! 🙂 And I’m glad you’re posting. I lurked for two years more or less , but I am so addicted to C/B now!
I’m a Wilkie Collins fan too. cheers.
Is she feeling so good she doesn’t even feel the the humid air. It’s been horrible in NYC for the past couple of days and she wearing long sleeves, booties and looks so relaxed. Go Katie!
riight!?
it’s simply stifling these days!
let’s trail the blocks Katie walks down, just to feel her residual breeze. lol 😉
If I was in NYC today I would want to get some of the residual happiness and strength molecules she leaves behind in her wake.
Totally worth the humidity. I would try to see where she has been here but I would catch Tommmygirl Cooties.
Smiling all the way to the bank … still not a fan of her and can’t believe how public opinion has changed just because she filed for divorce. She drank the kool aid years ago and liked it well enough for quite a while imho.
I agree. Now it’s nauseating to see her at Whole Foods. Who cares. She was 17 years younger than him. It’s well known that having more than a five year age difference will kill a relationship. Also a couple having a child before marriage raises your risk of divorce. So she and Tom both had contributing factors and they both knew what they were getting into. I blame them each 50/50 for the dissolution of their marriage just like every other couple.
@april this is a reply to your post below….
she’s not a saint, she’s a warrior. No one is saying she didn’t f*ck up. Katie knows she f*cked up. She couldn’t turn out to be this smart and not know it, but I don’t think she enjoyed it very long.
She also had money before Tom and she was raised in an upper middle class home. She was never “less fortunate”. That is not her fault. We’ll see what she does when this is over.
If she is a good Catholic (not like me) she probably tithes or even more. I would never tithe because I don’t trust The Church but that is neither here nor there.
There are others out there like her who are poor or middle class and get out but we don’t hear about them. We have some among our own ranks here on the board. Katie is representative of them.
There are others out there who are not poor and may even be rich but have zero self esteem and put up with controlling and more for some reason. Remember that Real Housewife who’s evil husband finally killed himself?
I know someone like that and I can’t watch anymore. She makes 6 figures and supports a man who makes Tom Cruise seem like a saint.
@april ‘It’s well known that having more than a five year age difference will kill a relationship. Also a couple having a child before marriage raises your risk of divorce.’
I feel like your statements are based on a 1950s reality. Seriously, more that a 5 year age difference KILLS A RELATIONSHIP?!?!?
I am 14 years younger that my hubby, and we’ve been married over 20 years now. I seriously dated many men, of different ages, and I can’t imagine being married to a younger guy – I like the feeling of stability, safety, support (all EMOTIONAL and INTELLECTUAL, not MONETARY) that an older partner provides. Now that we are older, he is even more dear to me, if it’s possible, because we both realize we may not have that much time together left.
I have a lot of friends who are in similar matrimonial circumstances – both age and happiness-wise. And I know a lot of couples that have been very close in age, and could never make it work, because they were both on divergent tracks emotionally and career-wise.
In the end AGE IS JUST A NUMBER, and it is simply silly to make such sweeping statements, especially ones that sound so ridiculous.
Age difference does not kill a marriage. Lack of love, lack of support, lack of understanding and compromise, lack of respect and caring kill any relationship, whether it be a marriage of less official.
It makes me crazy when people quote statistics that are not pertinent to the issue being discussed, and even more so when they make them up or try to spin them to support their own ideas.
Statistics is a cold, dry science that attempts to make sense of purely human conditions, and a lot of them do not translate properly into being cut up, measured, and spit out in neat rows of numbers and then used to justify any position. The fact is you can prove just about any hypothesis, explain any phenomenon, with the use of statistics, as long as you start from the end result and bend the facts to fit the theory. It has been done for ages, and your claim above seems to fall into this exact category.
People divorce because they stopped loving each other, or can’t live with each other any more. There are a myriad reasons for that happening, and just blaming age difference is so close-minded, so naive, it is laughable.
You haven’t read any of the articles here or any of the comments have you? Read and be enlightened, if your cult gives you free access to the computer, that is. $cilon.
Absolutely, I’ve read every comment. And I’m Catholic so get over the fact that anyone who doesn’t see it exactly your way is a member of Scientology.
I just say own up to the fact that you did what you did.
She will have a nice life now and I hope she helps those less fortunate who have similar problems. Many women are in crappy controlling marriages nearly their whole life due to economic reasons. How long was Katie unhappy in her marriage? Three years? I’m glad she will be financially stable for her and her daughter the rest of their lives.
I just don’t see adulating her or thinking she’s a saint.
april – I don’t get how you could say “Now it’s nauseating to see her at Whole Foods”. Nauseating – really? You are sickened at a woman who is escaping abuse?
I can’t say I understand that at all.
@ Sandy Pandy:
Totally with you on this. Good luck to her though, divorce is a terrible thing to go through.
Do any legal-minded people on here know if this goes into a big court case for custody…could Katie call Nicole to testify about how her relationship with her kids was messed up by the church?
I’m not legal-minded, but I doubt it. Or at least, she wouldn’t be forced to come- isn’t Nicole in Australia full-time now?
Nicole is in Nashville most of the time. I have friends living there who see her out and about all the time.
She looks amazing and happy. Haven’t seen her like this in….ever? GO KATIE!!! How can anyone not be rooting for her?
I don’t understand the boot hate? I love them, and have been looking everywhere for a similar (affordable) pair…
Neither do I, lol. I think they’re cute and have a similar pair myself (although, I keep mines clean, hers look dirty and maybe that’s one of the reasons why people don’t like them).
So I actually rewatched Batman Begins last night for the first time in ages (I’m getting ready for The Dark Knight Rises!) and I think it’s so sad that she wasn’t allowed to to The Dark Knight. I mean, I always thought she was the weakest cast member in the film, but she wasn’t nearly as bad as everyone made her out to be. Or maybe it’s just my current perception of her that’s clouding my judgement lol. Hopefully her career will start to pick up again.
And I agree with everybody else – she has looked better this past week than she has the entire time they were together. She just has a glow and youthfulness about her.
Also, I’m certain that Suri is safe and with people that Katie trusts, but if I was in her position I wouldn’t be letting her out of my sight!
Sophie, I watched it a couple of months ago and IMO she gave a decent performance. I think the hate towards her acting began when she married Crazy Tom. I prefer Katie the actress before Katie the fashionista.
She was the weakest link because she had the weakest role. She may not be Oscar caliber but the role did not require that either. Maggie Gyllenhall who replaced her is supposed to be a better actress and I think has been nominated for some awards, didn’t do a better job. Katie was better suited for the role.
Ironically Nicole Kidman had a very similar role in Batman Forever when she was about the same age Katie was when she did Batman Begins. It’s a role for a pretty, but non threatening 25 year old up and comer to get exposure.
@Aria, I’m not sure we’ve met Katie the Fashionista yet. Assuming she is into fashion at all. We’ve seen robo-Katie and miserable-Katie. I keep seeing those pictures of her in that bangtastophe of a bob and I don’t think we’ve seen Katie’s fashion sense at all. She looked ridiculous. It was not her. Some women look great in that cut but Katie is “long hair girl” like Michelle Williams is “short hair girl”
She was freakin’ awesome in Go!
Cruise poisoned her.
The Co$ wrecks the careers of most actors and other people in artistic fields who join it. It destroys creativity and makes everyone trust the person a lot less. Most people who have victims of Scientology for a while can’t even communicate properly any longer, because the way they think and speak has been replaced by L. Ron Hubbard’s ridiculous language.
Whatever Katie Holmes decides to do now, she’s going to do a lot better at it than when she was attached to a cult and a narcissistic control freak.
OMG, look at that SMIRK! Girlfriend is golden! I have a feeling that this woman is gonna win this thing hands down. She’s already won in the court of public opinion (who hasn’t been on her side, wishing, hoping, willing her to get the heck out for years?) I’m so happy. I just wanna give her a hug.
And I could totally see Morgan Freeman getting bent out of shape with Tom’s controlling nature. He seems like an upstanding man, and upstanding people don’t sit idly by and let something like a narcissist controlling his codependent wife slip past them. I’m sure he said something to his people and made a necessary, yet dignified, stink about it. I would love to have coffee with him.
Upstanding—except he’s about to marry his step-granddaughter.
@anyhoo That rumor has been debunked by Freeman and his step-granddaughter. Both deny ever being involved with one another. I tend to believe them. IF it did happen, I believe it was a short term event that happened several years ago. At the very least, I’ll give Freeman props for keeping it under wraps.
I can just see Morgan going up to Katie, giving her a big hug and saying “Be careful, Honey.” Tom is in the background ready to cut a bitch but Morgan just walks away.
And her style has improved so much. I love that shirt but I would want it in an earthy green for myself. That color looks great on Katie though. She does look much better but I would hope she will invest in some heavy eye creams for the dark circles under her eyes.
I’m really leery about Katie having a career when all is said and done. Tom is a very powerful man in Hollywood and I would be concerned that he has the power to blackball her, especially with Paramount. I get the feeling there will be very little career choices for her once the divorce is final. I really hope I am wrong.
As for waiting for Nicole to say anything, I haven’t. The last thing poor Nicole wants to do is make her two eldest kids feel alienated. She needs to keep those lines open to 1)Make sure they stay safe and 2)if they need to place to run to when all is said and done with the cult. I eventually see Bella leaving but I think Connor is a lost cause. He’s so indoctrinated with it and there is something majorly off about that kid. I think he’s being groomed by Tom and Miscavige to take over one day.
I think she won’t need a career, she is smart enough to take care of herself.
At last, she will be free from the control freak.
Her oldest children are already alienated. And obliviously I don’t know what’s on her mind but I feel she didn’t care too much, otherwise she would have fight. Instead she decided to protect herself (her secrets or whatever).
Tom is a freak, a control monster and everything, I despise him. But he seem to care about his kids. Having said that, I still hope Katie gets full and exclusive custody of Suri.
Nicole had no choice and no say whatsoever in the matter. They shut her out completely. If they can’t hurt your reputation, they will not hesitate to hurt your physical person.
Google: LISA MCPHERSON, murder victim of the Cult. One of probably MANY.
Serena read this article and you may understand why Nicole stayed away.
http://m.radaronline.com/entry/view/id/60407?KSID=349ab72e8ac2e63bcdcdf7d6b06d8895
I’m sure she fought as much as she could but there comes a point sometimes when the best thing to happen is to stay away. If they were going to poison the kids that much against Nicole, I think she did the right thing. I think her trying to fight harder would have made it worse for Connor and Isabella.
I so agree with you. Connor goes everywhere with Tom he was even supposed to be in Iceland with him. Isabella seems to be living her own life she has moved out her boyfriend is a Scientologist but she looks unhappy most of the time. Haven’t seen Isabella with Tom for awhile if anyone leaves it will be her and I think she will go to Nicole. As for Nicole not being caring enough to fight, of course she fought but with Tom, his family and his church all telling them awful things against Nicole she didn’t stand a chance. When kids get to about 13 they can choose where they want to live Tom and co made sure they chose not to see Nicole. I’m sure it hurt her but what could she do? She couldn’t force them and they are so deep in Scientology anything she did would have been used against her. I have been in a cult you have no idea how hard it is to leave and how hard they make it for you to have any contact with loved ones. I think Nicole has smart she has always made sure they could talk to her and she is there for them when they need her. Connor is another Tom so that isn’t going to happen and it sounds like he has cut Nicole out of his life. But hopefully Bella will make the break. I can see why Nicole won’t get involved now if she did she would lose both kids forever. Besides I don’t think Katie needs Nicole. I think her dad has made sure he has gotten everything they need to help her case. I also think Nicole signed some sort of confidentiality agreement.
Ladies, if you are unhappy with your situation, plan your get away.
I planned my get away. I made sure I had a formal education in order to keep my standard of living. Never spoke of getting a divorce until I e-mailed him that I was filing (4/2005). I had slept downstairs for years and he slept upstairs. I felt liberated when I finally was ready to execute my escape.
I knew it was going to be a new, happier beginning for me. It has been
seven years now!
now that’s p-i-m-p!
great advise! Sistas are doin’ it for themselves!
preach! 😀
“she will most likely support Tom for the sake of their children”… what? What sake of the children?
I don’t get how it is related since e she doesn’t see/speak with/ her children anymore (that are now brainwashed etc), she does it for herself. Cut the crap Nicole, you should do well for once!
Ridiculous. Nicole will not be dragged into somebody else’s divorce case, and she will not allow herself to be persecuted any more by the Cult. She’s going to stay far, far away and I don’t blame her a bit. They took away two of her other kids and she wants to stay a safe distance.
@gg I agree with you. The way you said on the Elle cover thread gave me a much needed deep laugh. Thanks, I had tears in my eyes. I read it (your comment) again today. I don’t understand why the insistence of Nicole being dragged into Katie’s divorce.
🙂 Imaginations are going wild. Belly laughs are always excellent medicine for the soul. cheers
There’s a new bounce to her step. Even her eyes look alive. GO KATIE!
This will be ugly: He is POWERFUL. He has a FORTUNE to hire the BEST attorneys ANYWHERE in addition to those he already has on the payroll. She is determined, so is he. SHE has the CO$ in the crosshairs. This is his child too. And he will fight for her with every ounce in him. SO WILL SHE. Yikes.
My husband commented the other day that “That guy (Cruise) has to have a huge ego-imagine living with him!?” and he NEVER follows or comments on celebrity gossip-so if a laid- back guy like him thinks this way it doesn’t bode well for Mr.Cruise. My parents have a very unhealthy relationship and I left home at 19, got an education and found a guy who treats me right. I vowed I would never live in a miserable relationship and encourage other people to do the same.
Nicole is protecting her the minimal relationship she did manage to keep with her kids. Good for her!
Katie is trying to bolt and I am SO nervous for her. But her celebrity and her dad, and a mothers unmovable love for a child maybe(?) is enough to hold off CO$.
The cult is psychologically and physically abusive. The son of CO$ executive director has suddenly died from a fever. A woman born into the CO$ was a SLAVE & went two years with out seeing her mother. As a child. It is unconscionable that this cult has been allowed for years and years to commit death after death after death. Miscavige should be prosecuted for murder.
I’ve been told that the Sea Org area is basically unpopulated now – the membership of CO$ has shrunk. Perhaps Katie Holmes can bring down this abhorrent org that Miscavige has created. L. Ron must be rolling in his grave.
Totally agree – Nicole was overwhelmed by Co$ and lost her older kids as a result – I am sure the threats from Tom and Miscavige of ruining her career and never seeing Bella and Connor again were enough to cause her to capitulate. This time, the shoe is on the other foot, in part due to Katie’s careful planning and also that so much negative info is coming out about the Co$ cult (I refuse to call it a religion). She has an enormous amount of public approval on her side and I think Tom is basically f*cked. Oh he’ll throw tiny-man tantrums and legal shenanigans at her, but she seems to have all her legal ducks in a row, and if he has a brain cell left in his cultified head he’ll know to throw in the towel. Payback’s a bitch eh, Tommyboy!!
@Jaded. That koala is so freaking cute. I don’t think I can ever disagree with anything you say. I love koala’s and want to hold one. I will never forget that picture of the koala taking water from that guy after the fires.
L. Ron is hardly blameless for the money-making fake “religion” he created.
L. RON HUBBARD QUOTES. He says several times over many years to many people, in print and quoted, why he started this sham tax-dodging scheme:
You don’t get rich writing science fiction. If you want to get rich, you start a religion.
Response to a question from the audience during a meeting of the Eastern Science Fiction Association on (7 November 1948), as quoted in a 1994 affidavit by Sam Moskowitz.
This statement is similar or identical to several statements Hubbard is reported to have made to various individuals or groups in the 1940s. Variants include:
The incident is stamped indelibly in my mind because of one statement that Ron Hubbard made. What led him to say what he did I can’t recall — but in so many words Hubbard said: “I’d like to start a religion. That’s where the money is!”
L. Ron Hubbard to Lloyd A. Eshbach, in 1949; as quoted by Eshbach in his autobiography Over My Shoulder: Reflections On A Science Fiction Era (1983) ISBN 1-880418-11-8
Y’know, we’re all wasting our time writing this hack science fiction! You wanta make real money, you gotta start a religion!
As reported to Mike Jittlov by Theodore Sturgeon as a statement Hubbard made while at the Los Angeles Science Fantasy Society clubhouse in the 1940s.
He also said the world would be a better place if all homosexuals, disabled people, and stinky people (not kidding) were “deleted”.
Elron Flubbard is famous for many a zinger.
Even though she has a fight ahead of her, she looks more relaxed and at peace than she has for a long time!
IMO ( and yes I’m one of the few who believe she married him because she loved him) Katie went into this head over heels in Love thinking they could overcome anything. She was marrying her crush! He lovebombed her, made all her dreams a reality, showed her how wonderful their life would be together… I mean he proposed on top the Eiffel Tower and married her in a Italian Castle for Lords sake! She felt like the most loved, cherished woman on the planet..So was she interested in learning about his religion, yes! Because she was crazy in LOVE with him.
I’m sure they slowly lead her up the crazy path (telling her see Katie, you can be both a Scientologist and a Catholic) until she eventually realized it was not what she thought it was.. but by then she’s in deep being watched, monitored and scared about what will happen to her daughter.
Not to mention Tom who was nothing but attentive in the beginning is now off working constantly and the life she thought they would have was nothing like what she was living under the watchful, reporting eyes of the Sci staff.
Now that she is out I doubt she intends on being ‘the woman who took down Scientology’ I doubt she will speak about it aside from what she says in court. She just wanted out and did it the only way possible. I wish her the best.
+1
Great post Memphis, you nailed it.
I totally agree Memphis! I wrote something similar that other day on another TomKat post. this guy is an actor, it would be very easy for him to act the part of a lover, a husband and even a dad; but being a partner in a marriage is clearly the one role he cannot fulfill.
I agree. Katies parents voiced their objections then protected her in the best way they knew how once they realized she had made her decision … And the equation changed with a baby on the way. The way Scientology was sold to her was that it could simply complement and coexist with other belief systems such as Catholicism. From what I read, scientologists tend to deny their more heavy handed tactics designed to route anything and anyone not aligned with them… Making Scientology much more an invasive weed than the pleasant flower it’s sold as. A lot of belief systems, even with their historical abuses, have populations with much looser practices, eg most Catholics. I went to catholic school for twelve years; it would strain credulity that anyone would stalk me to bring my devoutly agnostic self back into the fold. With Katie’s catholic background, she probably chose to believe Tom and the handlers that the stories about Scientology abuses were lies, hyperbole or misrepresentations. I attribute the change in her expression over the years to her personal exposure to Scientology repressive tactics… Including the growing realization that the woman who brokered her marriage, Shelly miscaviage, cannot possibly be “on vacation” or “busy” for five years. Katie may have been a little slow about this realization, but stone cold stupid she’s not.
Very well put, Tara.
@tara- this is a truly excellent post, with great clearly made points. I wish you could go post it on every set of comments regarding Katie H!
Love how she can’t hide her “cat that ate the canary” smile – and the fact that she refuses to hide and give in to fear. I think she feels very liberated and empowered by her decision to ditch the crazy CO$ Cruise. Go girl!!
Katie looks fabulous and Suri is beyond adorable with her loose side french braid…she looks like a, dare I say, child! Remember when they talked about how Suri does her “own thing” and goes to bed after midnight etc? Well, I hope Katie is letting her live like a normal child, perhaps asleep by 9pm. And, my dream is that after Suri is night night, Katie pours herself a nice glass of wine, makes a plate of cheese and crackers and hunkers down in a comfy chair with her computer and reads all the posts, comments etc. that all started around June 29th. Powerful. Good on you Katie!
That’s cute. I like it.
Just finished reading Tony Ortega’s open letter to Tom Cruise.
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/02/scientologys_di.php
OMG. I’ve spent most of this morning reading other Ortega’s stories about Scientology, and it’s absolutely horrifying how evil Miscavage is. I hope this divorce brings down this cult!
Holy cow. Little tommy is from Canada? I had no idea. I thought he was a freak product of the USA. Poor Canada. And can we send him back?
@TG – dear GOD no way do we want that monstrous little creep back (I’m Canadian in case you didn’t clue in….)
Tom was born in Syracuse, NY which is near the Canadian border. I think he may have lived in Canada for awhile but I know he was born in Syracuse.
TomKat overload.
I can’t remember who said it (if anyone knows, please refresh my memory!) but it went something like “The great enemy of love is not hatred…it’s apathy”. I’ve never been a fan of either Tom or Katie, but I do adore how she is handling this situation. How many photos have there been of her looking absolutely terrible, as though she were deliberately thumbing her nose at Cruise, and suddenly now there is so much buzz about how wonderful she looks (she does, really!). I honestly think Scientology is a terrifying cult and Cruise an unfit father as long as he is so deep in, but it seems Katie – or her PR team/parents/whomever – really understands they will dig their own holes as long as she keep projecting confidence and calmness. You can’t fight crazy – they best you can do is ignore it and continue on your way (no matter how difficult it might be).
no respect for Katie, keep quiet, she is hurting Suri
How?
By taking her to play with kids her own age?
By making sure she goes out everyday?
Oh wait, I know because of the 8pm trip to get ice cream in East Villiage.
Or are you discussing the fact that Katie is now *gasp* shopping at Whole Foods.
Okay, yeah the paps need to back the f*** off, as it is pretty obvious that Suri does not like the paparazzi at all. Who can blame her?
But how can you say that Katie is HURTING Suri?
Yes, Suri may want her Daddy but should Katie stay in a toxic situation that brings emotional harm to her and affects her ability to parent just to please her daughter? Hell, no. Suri may not understand right now but Katie is doing her a favor!
*Gives hugs to poor Gold Base prisoner*
Keep LOUD.
Well stated LeeLoo! She is doing Surin a LIFELONG favor!
@gg That’s a compliment, right?
edit: sorry LeeLoo, this should’ve been in reply to John – reposted above
On the paps and kids thing I wonder if legislation stating that photos of children (direct ones not just background shots that happen to have kids in them) can not be published without parents’ consent could be useful.
As well as making lots of us feel less conflicted about buying gossip mags/reading gossip sites, it would also highlight those utter famewhores who use their children for publicity.
Those magazine spreads that are totally devoted to the toddler offspring of famous people really creep me out, and I never buy those issues but in every mag there’s at least one invasive shot of some poor child who had no say in their parents’ career.
I’m behind you all the way, Leeloo. I was referring to this $cilon chant from john c: “no respect for Katie, keep quiet, she is hurting Suri.”
Not keepin quiet johnnypants – not about this, nobody is. Get used to it.
John C:
I disagree. The paps are doing a good thing. This is the one time when media can be helpful, when you need to get your story out. Not to mention if we see her every day and she was v% tomorrow and taken to some compound we’d noticce her missing. Once the media get hold of something they don’t let it go, and Katie vs CO$ is today’s cause célèbre. This is her reward for the intrusion.
The first thing that stands out is that she is smiling!! Can you imagine the stress that’s been going on in her life for the past few months, planning all this? Wow.
Will someone please explain to me why these Co$ deffectors aren’t being put in jail too? I mean it sounds like they were part of the criminal operation (rathbun and now just read the article on Debbie Cook). I mean it is great the they finally got smart but it does not excuse their own behavior. Sounds like she is still cuckoo for the Co$. These people are seriously crazy.
Because people first get sucked in by the happy lies, often their parents have them start brainwashing at a very early age. There is no law against joining an organization which purports to help people. However once brainwashed and held incommunicado from the rest of the evil world these people can’t often survive “outside”.
Do you understand what brainwashing does? It’s like being a prisoner of war, or kidnapped and held for ransom for months or years. It f*cks up your brain. You have no idea how to cope on the outside.
Co$ defectors aren’t the perpetrators, they’re the victims and should be given every opportunity to tell their stories and be re-adjusted to living in the real world. The perps are the ones at the top with their eyes closed thinking they are gods, a.k.a. Cruise and Miscavige.
Simple. the burden of proof in criminal cases is beyond a reasonable doubt. Thats not an easy standard to reach (as it should be) and If everyone still in the cult claims its all lies then it’s very hard to prove.
Just saw this on inside edition and it totally freaked me out! This woman’s son is suddenly dead at the same time that she is speaking out about Scientology….gee, another “coincidence” http://www.insideedition.com/news/8497/ex-wife-of-former-president-of-scientology-speaks-to-inside-edition.aspx
Here’s a link to the Village Voice article. I think Tony Ortega was the one to break the story: http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/07/scientology_pre.php
Everybody, please keep sending pertinent links!
There are still people just now waking up to the truth about the cult.
We need to band together to bring down the cult of $cientology!
Here’s one we all should read.
http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2012/07/05/scientology-inc-wants-to-censor-cruiseholmes-break-up-news/
He received an email suggesting how members should deal with blog commenters like us who are just .. “a bunch of uninformed people start to spread false datum, rumors and defame our religion.” That is to hit the Report button all over the net for code of conduct violation. (Freedom of religion blah blah). They’ve got a lot of work to do because everyone is commenting on every entertainment blog but they’ll be here lurking no doubt.
What I find reprehensible is that the executives at Paramount & Universal are ready and willing to do their part and help Tom hoodwink the public and cover up all this info. Universal owns E!, Access Hollywood & NBC and Paramount owns Entertainment Tonight and who knows what other media outlets. They could all collude on this and keep the public willfully ignorant on the connection between their marquee movie star and the corrupt and dangerous organization to which he belongs.
Yeah they don’t care as long as they are making money, and they made plenty of money from the Mission Impossible franchise so they were happy.
Remember CNN Paramount sacked him in 2006 because of the negative publicity from his crazy sh!t? They took him back for some reason, and now say the are backing him currently but that’s probably because he still has films coming out. Let’s see what they say once these are done, because he’s a huge liability now and I reckon he’s lost a huge part of his audience.
Here are the high-profile people I can remember defecting just in the past couple months: Lisa Marie Presley, L. Ron Hubbard’s granddaughter, and David Miscavige’s own father.
And now Israel Scientology has split from the cult: http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/07/scientology_dani_lemberger.php
I think there it’s possible that Debbie Cook’s letter caused this. http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/01/scientology_in_3.php
When your own father leaves the cult you run, you’ve got problems. I’m worried for everyone around David Miscavige, because when he gets angry, he gets violent.
By the way, some outlets are reporting that Miscavige disappeared his wife because she wanted to leave him. As far as I can find, that is not true. Shelly filled several job posts while her husband was on vacation, and immediately afterward, she disappeared. Doing something like that without consulting him is a heinous sin in David Miscavige’s book.
Or it just means that Miscavige was savvy enough to “disappear” his wife when the opportunity arose, casting suspicion away from himself.
Abusive men can be excruciatingly devious and tend to take advantage of “opportunities” presented them.
So true “the original ballaluna”
I am new to commenting on this site http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2170027/Scientology-Karen-la-Carriere-wife-Church-president-Herber-Jentzsch-allowed-sons-body-morgue.html
read it and comments endlessly. I appreciate your knowledge and comments.
The links to Scientology are mind-boggling, to say the least. I have read every one of them and it is a twisted non-religion cult.
For those of you who would like “easier” reading on the whack of Scientology here is a link to easy reading.
I am still stunned that Katie could do this and make a stand. I thank God for the support system she must have in place.
Most of them are defecting from Miscavige rather than CO$ per se. He will probably have to step down, if he can put his massive ego aside. Perhaps Tom will be the new leader? 😉
That certainly seems to be the case with many of the higher profile defectors (with the exception of Jason Beghe) and it’s worrying. Even if Miscavige was jailed for a hundred years tomorrow it wouldn’t actually change the LRH based tenets of Scientology. Cutting off non believers, the whole SP thing and believing that all gay, disabled or mentally ill people are degraded won’t go away. Admittedly many other religions feel exactly the same way about gay people but at least they don’t try to hired it. There’s much more wrong with Scientology than just Miscavige.
I agree that CO$ is bizarre set of beliefs but I think that area actually does fall under freedom of religion. The criminal behavior, however, does not.
Billions of people in the world believe in ‘strange’ things. That their God was his own father and/or born in human form to a virgin mother. That a man parted an enormous body of water. That the birth of the father of a deeply thoughtful religion amounted to popping out of his mother’s side and went on to spent seven years under a tree. That their deity has multiple arms and legs and an elephant trunk for a nose. That a ‘heroic’ death is rewarded by lots of virgins in heaven. The list goes on and on.
🙂 Look at her now. She looks happy. She is smiling. Her dressing sense has came back. She looked horrible two weeks ago. She is finally, freeeeee! 😀
completely surprised and totally impressed by what she’s doing. go katie!!
Seriously, I am truly, so very happy for her. I hope everything works in her favor. She looks like a new person – You go girl! The world awaits you……
I wish I had the same feeling that Katie must be having now..pure 100%, “I gotcha bastard”, upper hand, winner type of feeling….
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Gosh, I can’t remember a time when I was so engrossed in a story.
I don’t even bother reading any other stories on CB anymore.
I think, as someone else has said, the reason we are all barracking so hard for Katie is that we all have either BEEN this woman or KNOWN a woman like this.
AND, it’s thematic concern, like all good fairy tales, is the triumph of good over evil.
The Co$ has strong-armed and gagged so many people that the time has come for retribution. That Miscavige fellow is such a terrifying sounding psychopath that eventually he will have to be tried for crimes against humanity. I see it all coming, though it will be years in the making.
Katie has inadvertently become the catalyst for the downfall of Co$. Go Katie!
I find it interesting that Katie’s getting papped everyday looking great, younger, happy. If this is part of their strategy…well, remember the past 6 months of Katie skulking around with no make-up and gray hair, looking like shite? Wonder if that was all choreographed as well?
I think 50/50. I believe she was stressed and anxious orchestrating the perfect escape AND she was playing a savvy PR game. I truly didn’t think she had it in her, but never underestimate maternal instinct, I guess.
So Tom is worth hundreds of millions, makes 75 a million year, is fairly attractive and is a world famous movie star. Yet he can’t manage to hold to a good woman. What hope is there for the rest of us?
I don’t think most of us live in the same world as he does. Regardless, money doesn’t ensure happiness, it just gives you independence. I don’t know many (regular) people who are having a good relationship either!
I hope you are being facetious.
If you aren’t then you need to understand there are things more important than money, looks, and fame.
Money can be spent until there is nothing left, looks will eventually fade, and there is always some new up-and-comer looking to upstage the current star.
No amount of money, no level of attractiveness, and no level of fame could make me stay in a relationship with a narcissistic control freak. I’d rather be poor with an ugly, unknown man who respects and loves me.
“I hope you are being facetious.”
To tell you the truth sometimes I don’t know anymore. 🙁
“I’d rather be poor with an ugly, unknown man who respects and loves me.”
Hey it’s not an either either thing.
Chris you sound like an Aussie! You have an Aussie sense of humour!
Most men who get married do not get divorced. There is no group in the U.S. which has a divorce rate higher than 40% (except possibly celebrities.) And that’s women who marry young, have no college education, and are entirely dependent on their husbands for support.
Women who marry at age 25 or later, have a college education at least, and have their own means of support, have a 25% divorce rate.
Most marriages do not end in divorce.
And Tom Cruise is a narcissist who belongs to a cult and is best friends with a violent cult leader. The only reason Cruise is able to get anyone to look at him twice are his looks, charisma, money, and celebrity. Even all of those can’t counter his toxic personality, because nothing can.
What’s your standard for “good woman” anyway?
To add to the narcissist statements they also don’t ever think they are wrong. So there is no way in hell he is going to come around and say “Geez I haven’t been very good to Katie, etc.” It is always the other persons fault. Has anyone ever been rehabilitated from narcissism, I wonder?
never…There is no recovery from narcissism from what I have read.
Stephers is correct. It’s extremely difficult, if not impossible, to treat Narcissistic Personality Disorder, because in order to get better it is essential for the disordered person to acknowledge and recognize that something is wrong in the first place.
And since being completely unable to recognize and acknowledge any sort of shortcoming is inherent to NPD in the first place, it’s virtually impossible to treat.
YES KATE-BOT! You had this planned all along didn’t you!? Fantastic, wish her all the best. Grab Suri and get out. Xxxxx
I too think she looks thinner, but that may all be stress related to this whole debacle anyway.
We should give her months and see how she is looking then.
I don’t just think this is a PR move. When you are going through something like this it is best to get out. Live life, move around, walk, get some fresh air, go grocery shopping to get your mind off things. If it is a PR move it may be to show the courts that yes, she is living there. She is buying groceries for consumption, shopping so we know she is living there. Because Cruise, from what I heard on the news, wanted the proceedings to go down in CA, however, the law doesn’t allow two divorces in different states. Since she filed in NY then that is where it will take place, and her appearing as if she is living there helps.
She couldn’t pay for the amount of publicity she’s getting from this divorce. I bet she’s hiring the best pr team to help re-lauch her career as a movie star. It worked for nicole kidman, maybe it will work for her. . . She looks so free and happy now. . .
Nicole was riding high professionally when she and Tom divorced. Two movies she shot during her marriage came out, Moulin Rouge and The Other that Tom produced for her. Those movies were hits and solidified her as a movie star. Katie’s most recent movie, a thriller, flopped.
Can someone explain why Katie HAD to get married (if Suri is Kleins)? Why couldn’t she have a baby out of wedlock? Its not the 1700s…
I want to know that too. Maybe it was the money and fame plus she wanted to keep the baby? Fascinating also if it’s true that there was a contract and it was a sham. I can’t imagine that anyone would tie up their real life for 5 years to fake it, but then I thought about people who work around the clock for years of their lives… anyway there’s something very weird and almost fake about how this is ending – just like how it seemed fake from the beginning
Maybe Tom can convince Lilo that a good Scientologist husband is just the thing she needs to sort her out and get back on track. That’d be totes awesome! 🙂
HAHA now THIS I can agree with!
OMG! That’s golden! I was thinking the same thing in the back of my mind. What LiLo NEEDS is to disappear off the face of the earth for like 8 yrs., then come back with her brain washed – LiLo needs a good rough, soapy scrub inside that broken Noodle of hers….
Imagine a Lilo- LiLo+CO$+8yrs off the scene-drugs/booze/craziness= a soon to be Megastar!!!
Nicole should be understandably reluctant to take sides. The ones to call for relevant testimony would be public ex-Scientologists. I think at least one of those actually witnessed the way her kids were turned against her. That’s more valuable than anything Nicole could say. She was not entirely cut off from the kids- I remember her saying they stayed with her for long periods. The relevant issue is what was done to them by Co$ to alter their perception of their mom since that could happen to Suri. Don’t know how easily the court can prevent it, though, if Tom has not been personally abusive. I don’t think a court can prevent a father from teaching his child what he believes, although the court very definitely will be concerned about alienation of affection. A friend’s kids started coming home from visits with their dad worried that she was going to hell, because he was taking them to his fundamentalist church that taught that’s what happened to outsiders. Nothing much she could do except hope their experiences at home and at her church would counteract that fear. Divorced parents have to deal with such serious parenting differences all the time.
Katie has made this so public that Scientology will not be able to secretly manipulate her or their child. This divorce will be completely public and the law will preside, not the Scientology laws. Katie is probably getting out because she just wants to be herself again without the cult controlling her every move. This is her new life and she’s practicing, although with all the press, she is still going to be followed everywhere. I like her, but I still maintain that she knew full well what she was getting into when she married Tom. She was star struck, but she had time to decide if she thought she could handle being a part of cult. I’m very sure they prepared her early on for her new life. If this is not about Scientology, then there are other issues of which I am not aware. Of course, Tom is controlling. It’s too bad the other two kids w/Nicole have been indoctrinated :- (
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I just found a BBC 4 part documentary on YouTube “Scientology: The Secrets of Scientology”. Here’s the URL to the 1st one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l42UrHDx4lE
It’s done by BBC’s Panarama, they’re the 20/20. 60 min of the UK. I watched the first 3 minutes and it’s SCARY! (and v. informative)
I thought I’d share w/ you all since some of us (me) are really clueless on Scientology.
Holy smokes, erika! AWESOME late night net fishin’! 🙂
Original BellaLuna – You don’t want to KNOW the nightmare I had after watching that until 3AM! Seriously creepy, like my body was stitched by the crotch region w/ my 3 best friends from High School! Try as I might I couldn’t seperate myself!
Tiffin – Ohhhh, thanks for that, I’ll def watch this eve., wasn’t that BBC doc just mindblowing? LITERALLY being followed EVERYWHERE! Even the top floor of an empty parking garage!? n’ Tommy Davis? sent chills up my spine, a resemblance to the Devil himself in suit n’ tie.
Everybody – You’ve got to peek at the BBC doc’s that I listed n’ Tiffin. It’s mindblowing to VIEW in REAL LIFE just how INSANE Scientology is! Walking/talking robots, CO$ Stalkers!, interviews with celebs (Kirstie, Juliette L, Anne Archer) you can see the CRAZY in their eyes!!!
Erika,
‘The Secrets of Scientology’ was actually a follow-up to a previous BBC documentary ‘Scientology and Me’ by the same guy, John Sweeney. This was a real eye-opener for me. (It’s in four parts too.)You might be interested in it too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuJlZ_f1594
This link is for the one you mentioned, ‘The Secrets of Scientology’ but it’s the whole thing without any breaks, one hour long.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr2BijIprqg
Excellent links ladies! Thanks
To everybody who jumped on me when I said Tom’s career was back after almost losing it from his Scientology nuttiness and that this divorce would go quiet while he tried to settle it because his career was too important to him – well, first of all his career is back. 750 million box-office for MI Ghost Protocol. He got great reviews in Rock of Ages, and it was an ensemble movie. That movie won’t hurt him. He has cache in the industry again. He has two movies that will be coming out and filming one now and more projects down the line. He has a lot riding on the line that all this bad publicity in the divorce could destroy. He knows he wouldn’t recover again.
And I was right. Guess what? It has gone quiet. For now everything is stopped and they have gone into private settlement talks.
You can’t judge someone’s bankability on one movie alone. Everyone I know (including me) watched MI4 because of Jeremy Renner not Cruise. That franchise also had a built in fan base from the days when Cruise wasn’t quite so freaky (nor old – at 50 as an action star you start seriously straining people’s ability to willingly suspend disbelief). If it were my money I’d want to see Cruise carry a stand alone movie without other hot property in it (frankly I’d watch paint dry if Jeremy Renner had a cameo) before believing he’s back on top.
His bankability is that movie studios believed in him again. He was two movies wrapped that will be coming out, one he is filming, and other projects to film. He is doing a Top Gun sequel. If this divorce scandal continues with Scientology, he will be box office poison and would derail all his movies coming out. Movie studios would never touch him again if it makes losses on all his upcoming movies. He will settle as I said when this all began. His career is everything to him.
Tom is more fit than most guys. I have no problem with him as an action hero if it’s a good movie. Not that many action movies are that good to me anyway. Liam Neeson has done three action movies since the age of 56 and his one is coming out at the age of 60. I loved every one of them.
There’s a lot of reasons I probably woukdn’t see Tom in a movie. Age isn’t one of them.
Jayna,
I must say I’m leaning towards him settling quietly too. It just depends which he thinks is more important – his ‘church’ or his career.
Reports have said CO$ is telling him to ‘give Katie hell’ while the studios are telling him they’ll support him if he sorts everything quietly. But if his career goes down the tubes, that means less cash for CO$, so it would be in their interest too if he settled. And they probably hope that all this bad publicity will go away too.
Whatever happens, I hope that all this controversy results in the victims of CO$ finally getting justice.
By the way, the last Tom Cruise film I saw was Mission Impossible 2. I will not give my financial support to him or his ‘church.’
Read this! I have just gotten amazing news!
My female relative escaped! A little bit ago, she lives across the country and has gotten married to a non cult member. She made contact with her dad!
Sorry, I am so very happy. My male relative and his mom will be lifers.
She has blown for good. Wheeeee!
Btw, cos STILL follows my grandfather and my other relative around their hoods. He’s been out for maybe ten years, hers is more recent they NEVER give up.
Yay, Margaret, you did it. I’m so proud of you!
Yay!! I am so happy to hear your wonderful news!! This is wonderful!!
We know how worried you were – you must be esctatic!!
I’ll raise my glass to you and your brave, brave relative when I have my weekly alcoholic beverage tonite!
Good news! Happy for you 😉
OTiff – YAY! SO happy for you and Margaret. 😀 Give her our best!
Awesome news! That took a lot of courage, good for her!
This is STUPENDOUS news!!! I’m relieved for you and Margaret! Takes a gigantic level of courage and might that I don’t think anyone of us can imagine.
Keep fighting on Maragret! a World CO$ free is the way to be! Expect good things to come your way= love and peace of mind
That is fantastic news TheOriginalTiffany! I am new to posting comments on CB but have been reading comments for years. I am just a 46 yo mom of a 6 year old boy 🙂 and thought…heck, just read the comments. I have learned so much from your comments on the CO$ from a view that is so real. I thank you for sharing. I am happy your family member is safe. I hope she continues to be safe. It must be a very happy day for you.
That’s fantastic news! Congrats to you and your family.
Excellent news tiffany!
I hope that more people will defect after coming to their senses. I am so glad Lisa Marie Pressley quit.
Truly WONDERFUL news!!!!
Great news Tiff, so happy for you and your family
I have spent the past two or three days immersed in CO$ articles. I think the Tommy’s are related – they have the same brows and the same beak. I also think I need a breather.
Me too – but Tommy Davis is one evil mofo….I’m glad he’s off scrubbing Co$ bathroom floors with his tongue. I still think he and Suri look suspiciously alike….
If we’re correct, and Tommy1 & Tommy2 are related, then so are he and Suri. And it keeps in line with the thinking that Tommy1 is infertile.
I just googled pictures of Tom Davis and, sadly, the physical similarities between he and Suri are overwhelming.
Wow, I’d never thought to compare photos of Davis and Suri, but you are absolutely right. The similarities are chilling. I just wonder (if it’s true) how in the hell they managed to get Katie knocked up with HIS baby, before Tom and she were even married?
Lulu…check out this photo of Tom Davis
http://www.xenutv.com/blog/?p=4379
Good for you, Katie! Sadly you’re tied to Tom, the douche, forever more.
Hope Bedhead will be covering the Israel Co$ offices’ defection from LA Headquarters!!!
And all because of Miscavige, starting with Debbie Cook’s Christmas letter.
Oh my gosh, I just read the 2005 W interview of Katie Holmes. It is all kinds of crazy and spooky and weird. This girl was brainwashed and it is so obvious that tiny man was a control freak even then I mean he even sent in a necklace for her as a gift on the set. Who the f*ck does that? She gets all excited and says “he’s my man”, twice and then jumps up on the couch imitating him and then does the splits on the floor and the entire enterview she keeps going on an on about how it is a privilege to be with him and an honer. WTF? She can never actually answer any questions it is like she is just reapeating lines that have been fed to her over and over and that is how she has been since she hooked up with himm. And he already had her under control and surveillance with that Jessica Rodriguez. What a loser woman that is. And that Jessica was controlling everything. And I think if he does settle the custody issues it will only be a stalling ploy and he will figure out a way in the future to brainwash suri and turn her against her mom and into a Co$ slave (read obese and brainless). Katie don’t settle with this nut he will trick you. He is evil. And that tommy davis kid seems like he is gay. I just watched the BBC 4 part series.
CLUE: I think Katie is making these public walkabouts New York City to get WITNESS’! If she is being followed by CO$ and they get into her physical space? try to grab? She could recruit body gaurds and/or civilians as witness’ in court that she IS indeed being followed.
If she could PROVE a CO$ stalker? WoW…big points for her
The stories coming out today are that Tom And Katie’s lawyers are all in talks behind closed doors. They are trying to avoid court and things are “calm”. Sounds like Tommy listened to the Studios. I hope Katie plays hard and get’s custody of Suri. I can imagine that being a sticking point. It looks like Tom wants to avoid going to court, gee I wonder why?CS
Someone just commented on People that the court should make tinytom go to a psychiatrist to prove he is a fit dad. That is brilliant. Can you imagine the lucky doc getting to examine this freak? The whole time tinytom would be trying to fake his way thru the interview and love bomb the doc by using his first name, etc. And the doc would see him for what he is – a narcissistic cult loving alien freak.
That would be brilliant!! Really hope Katie’s team thinks of this.
Tom being declared an unfit father. Wow.
There is such a thing as a “court ordered psych eval.” What I find interesting is whether or not he’d attend.
You know, being CO$ and his beliefs and all…
Let us discuss.
He would probably use the it’s against my religion defense so he wouldn’t have to go. Maybe this is why they are behind closed doors trying to work things out? Someone might have mentioned this. Wouldn’t it be interesting to see Tom tell the Doctor that they are wrong and try to convert them? LOL Cause Tom knows all about what a sham it is. I think Tom does have issues and is a narcissist and of course their is his control issues. I think Tom would try and argue or would make it the role of his life to come off as normal as possible. Something he has worked on for many years. I would think if the court got involved in child custody it could be ordered and it should be. Pretty sure Tom will avoid that at all costs.
hahhaha, I’m getting a hilarious visual. “Doc-doc – You’re glib – you don’t know anything ABOUT psychiatry, I DO. Psychiatry is a FALSE SCIENCE.”
DanaG – I’m sure that’s why they’re behind closed doors. Miscavige probably ordered the little maniac not to tarnish the CO$’s “sterling reputation” by making this an even more public spectacle. You know that’s why he went to LA – for his 1000 verbal lashings! 🙂
gg – And can you picture the look on the doc’s face when Tom claims to have “healed” mental illness? 😀 Oh, to be a fly on certain walls these days…
Apparently, the way Katie has filed her request, Tom Cruise is under the obligation to be present, personally at the July 17th hearing.
This being said, there are posts today suggesting that lawyers on both sides are tightly negotiating. On everything. Visitation rights, spousal and parental support, homes, everything.
Would this mean that Tom’s side had also considered the possibility of having Tom going through a psych evaluation, and would rather not?
Or is it as Eaine has suggested, that in effect Tom has been keeping silent, so to torture her more?
Don’t forget, this is not California, this is New York. Rules are very different in custody cases. No civil rights, or rather, they are intentionally ignored, in favor of the well-being of the child. So NO LIMIT on how far, and deep, the courts might decide to look into Tom’s life.
That’s IF the NY judge decides that Katie and Tom’s home in NY could be considered as primary home, and would be proceeding in the case. Or else, Tom would be allowed to counterfile in Cali.
Meant to say Lainey, not Eaine.
Wait, Morgan Freeman is disgusted? Are there not ongoing rumors of his involvement with his step-granddaughter? That’s funny.
As far as Katie, I don’t feel sorry for her. She was not a naive girl. I’m also sure plenty of people warned her about setting up shop with Cruise. She just didn’t listen. I’m sure her parents warned her. But it’s wonderful that can count on their support. It’s great when one has parents such as she, because some people have bad parents.
And to the person who posted that a family member escaped. Maybe Katie inspired her. 🙂
I read this in the local paper yesterday and felt it was one of the best quotes I’ve read on this saga thus far:
“Given I’ve always found the image Cruise projects as weirdly intense, I felt relieved for Holmes (who I feel like I know is lovely from all those pictures of her loving her little daughter) that she now may have a chance to find her own, more mellow Keith Urban.”
I don’t know if this link from the Daily Mail has already been posted, but I’ll chance it because this piece is SO chilling that no one interested in this case should miss it. Tom’s first agent, from when he was 18, sheds light on his character and background, including the damage his early life caused him, his chronic anger and a budding violent streak, and I’d say the early manifestations of narcissistic personality disorder.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2170237/Tom-Cruise-Posing-G-string-temper-like-fury.html
Interesting article. I wonder why she’s telling this story now after all these yrs. Maybe its damage control on TC part to explain some of his behavior or maybe its just someone cashing in on the situation.
i think the pics with the article were very interesting, he looks so different. he def. had surgery on his jaw/chin area. Before i saw those I would swear Tommy Davis was her bio father but now that I saw him before the PS Im not so sure.
I’m quietly following everything and I am behind Katie 100 percent. I’ve got so much hatred for Tom Cruise after his comments about Post-Natal depression, WTF would he know? Ignorant c you next tuesday…
Proud of Katie for planning and executing her escape from the clutches of Tom and his cult of minions. The CO$ would be a good place to drop a bomb.
I hope Tom seeks sole legal and physical custody of those booties (and then destroys them humanely).
LOL +1
Agree with Djinn, Melbourne is so expensive, not just rent and housing costs but food, clothing etc… A work colleague travelled to NY and couldn’t believe how cheap it was in comparison…craziness.
BDA (before Divorce Announcement) I couldn’t have cared less about Katie. Now she’s my hero. Team Katie & Suri. Everything everyone else has already said. Nicole isn’t going anywhere near this, publicly.
She looks awesome.
I love her little smirk.
So katie wants everyone to believe that Tom is crazy and an unfit father and that she is all golden and has no fault whatsoever. I don’t believe her completely, everyone knows she has been putting on a well-rehearsed act all year, carrying her daughter all over NY. She appears to be a very moody person even before her marriage to TC, sort of like a hard to please personality. I suspect Tom must have tried everything to make her smile and happy and it didn’t work, she must have fallen out of love for him and just using her daughter as an excuse to garner public sympathy.