Jezebel recently pointed us to this article in Business Insider on former celebrity Scientologists. It answered a question for me about Brad Pitt’s involvement with the cult. We know he dated Juliette Lewis around the time that they co-starred in the TV movie Too Young to Die in 1990 and the film Kalifornia in 1993. Lewis has been involved in the cult since at least 1988. So did Lewis attempt to get her then-boyfriend, Brad Pitt, indoctrinated into Scientology? Former Scientology Amy Scobee claims in a recent book that Lewis did, and said that it caused Pitt and Lewis to break up. Scientology bigwigs were of course drooling over Pitt, but he was wise enough to get the hell out of there while he could.
In former high-ranking church official Amy Scobee’s book, “Scientology — Abuse at the Top,” she claims Brad Pitt completed two Scientology courses in July 1991 and May 1993.
“In the end, Brad didn’t think it was for him and he and Juliette broke up,” said Scobee. “He was high on the church president’s list of stars they felt could be ‘recovered.”
[From Business Insider]
The site “Truth about Scientology,” which compiles information from Scientology’s official magazines, has Pitt listed as completing two courses in Scientology in the years Scobee mentioned. Given the time frame, he was probably high as a kite at the time. Good for him for getting out while he could.
I found this article I wrote in 2006 and totally forgot about. It’s about Tom Cruise making a weak ass attempt to recruit Angelina Jolie into Scientology by asking her to come by their headquarters and pick up an “award.” Cult expert Rick Ross also mentioned that Brad Pitt dumped Juliette Lewis over Scientology, so I guess this news has been out there for a while.
I finally watched the BBC Panorama documentary on Scientology from 2007 that so many of you have been mentioning in the threads. (It’s available in four parts on YouTube.) I remember hearing that Juliette Lewis was interviewed in it, but when I watched it the segment with the famous Scientologists, including Kirstie Alley, Ann Archer, Leah Remini and Juliette Lewis, had no actual statements from the actresses due to legal threats from Scientology. All we saw were the facial reactions from the women. (That’s at about 4:00 into this video.)
Part of Juliette’s interview did make it online eventually. BBC later released deleted scenes from the Panorama series, in which journalist John Sweeney asked about Scientology being a cult. (Juliette’s segment is at at 4:30 in the video linked here.) She handled it way better than the others. Juliette laughed about whether Scientology was a cult and said “Some people also say that women are really stupid and shouldn’t vote.” Both Leah Remini and Kirstie Alley pulled the bigotry card, with Alley and Anne Archer getting particularly worked up.
As for the Panorama documentary, I’ve heard about it for a while and put off watching it until now. It’s a worthwhile expose, but there was so much yelling, stalking, intimidation and creepiness that it was hard to watch.
Here are some highlights I found:
Scientology spokesperson Tommy Davis goes off at 6:00.
Sean Lonsdale, a videographer attempting to expose Scientology, is shown at the beginning of this video. He gets confronted by Tommy Davis with details of his criminal history (which was also posted on fliers around town in an attempt to intimidate him). Lonsdale ended up “committing suicide” under suspicious circumstances in 2008.
Tommy Davis goes off again at :30
Scientologist blame psychiatry for the Holocaust at 3:40. After that Sweeney goes off on Tommy Davis.
There’s some chatter that Tommy Davis has not been seen in public in some time. I could not confirm that, but he’s been replaced as cult spokesperson by a woman named Karin Pouw.
Here’s Juliette and her new boyfriend, Travie McCoy of Gym Class Heroes, at an event on 5-27-12. Credit: WENN.com
Juliette is a crazy bitch, love her
I know. And I loved them as a couple, it revealed that Brad was not the typical Hollywood type who would only date cookie cutter beauties.
Brad also dated Robin Givens back when she was on “Head Of The Class” don’t know how long though.
And Sinita – one of Simon cowell’s harem of exes
It revealed that Brad was willing to date a 16 year old for some fame. Gross.
jazzman that is not true. Brad dated Robin when she was divorcing Mike Tyson
gosh it’s not hard to check facts.
Just to clarify, when I say I loved them as a couple, I had no idea she was underage. I thought she was more like 18-19 when they met. That is gross. But I can’t imagine he dated her for fame, she wasn’t/isn’t exactly A list.
Esmon, she had more fame than he did at the time. During some paparazzi docu woody the paparazzi guy says she introduced Brad Pitt to the papz and basically helped him get his name out there.
@Esmom …
Juliette Lewis was born in 1973, so she was 17 just before, during, or soon after they did the TV movie, and 20 when they filmed “Kalifornia.” Both have said that they didn’t start dating during the TV movie, that it was later, so she ‘was’ probably 18 or 19 when they dated.
@Lola …
By the time Brad Pitt filmed “Kalifornia” in 1993 he had already been in “Thelma and Louise” (which many critics have coined his ‘breakout’ film) and “A River Runs Through it.” Both films were critically acclaimed and his noteworthy performance in the films is what got him noticed, not Juliette Lewis.
@ Lisa2 maybe you need to check your facts girlie. Robin married Mike on February 7, 1988, she dated Brad around 1986 and broke up 1987 relax girlie is not that serious.
@jazzmin …
I’m not ‘girlie’ (waves at Lisa2), but I am old enough to have actually watched “Head of the Class” (1986-1990). I also remember the rumors thereof because they were splattered all over the news media, such as it was during the day (the ’80’s).
Brad briefly dated Robin after he appeared in an episode of “Head of the Class.” The episode “Partners” aired in the third season, either late 1988 or early 1989. Yes, Robin married Tyson in February 1988, but they separated 8 months later (October? November? 1988).
The rumor is that Mike Tyson dropped by Robin Givens’ house late one night while she was on a ‘date’ with Brad Pitt *after* she’d separated from Tyson and had filed for divorce. The rumor is that Tyson threatened Pitt (which Tyson now denies). The (from all accounts satisfying) affair between Robin and Brad ended. Brad is no fool, and Mike Tyson was crazier then than now.
I know a girl who is/was good friends with Juliette during the time she was with Brad. I once asked her why they broke up and she said, “She was BIG into drugs (coke) and then cheated on Brad.” I was like (!!!!!) SHE cheated on Brad? And my friend said, ya, and that it was with an old, ugly guy. That Juliette was loopers and off her head and drugs. “It was a drugs thing…”
There was a blind item a while back saying the reason they broke up is because she cheated on him.
I think that’s the same reason why he and Goop broke up too.
This is actually a reply to somebody else who is posting misinformation about Brad to slander him wrongly.
Robin Givens and Mike Tyson were separated for about two months before she began dating Brad. You don’t go by the legal papers because the divorce process can sometimes take a long time to be finalized. It took years because Mike Tyson refused to file papers and then took forever to sign them.
Juliette was 18..nearly 19 when she started dating Brad and it did not begin during filming.
Brad Pitt did not begin a romantic relationship with Angelina Jolie until three months after his separation.
Juliette Lewis and Jill Scholen cheated on Brad. Gwyneth Paltrow also cheated on him with Ethan Hawke.
Truth, I’ve provided links to websites below as well as a quote from Juliette herself proving she dated Pitt when she was 16 and lived with him when she was 17. Do you have any links or proof supporting your claim? Or are you just a crazed fan.
@Truth, who wrote: “Juliette Lewis and Jill Scholen cheated on Brad. Gwyneth Paltrow also cheated on him with Ethan Hawke.”
And Ben Affleck.
Go to U-tube and type thundercats movie trailer. BRAD is a thundercat, in full cat makeup. Blew my mind. Movie to come out end of the year. Am I the only one who didn’t know about this movie?
It’s actually a clip made from other movies. That’s Brad from Troy, looks like Hugh Jackman from one of the X-men movies and probably scenes from some Vin Diesel movie too. The date for the video is 2009. Sorry to burst your bubble.
it’s weird because i believed Juliette Lewis became scientologist after her drug troubles and Brad Pitt knew Lewis when she was 16/17 (they worked on a tv movie together TOO YOUNG TO DIE)
I’d say he knew her – they started dating and became engaged at that time.
@Kim …
It’s my understanding that they didn’t start dating until “Kalifornia,” would would have made Juliette 19 or 20 rather than 16. She is also one of the young actors who went to Court and became emancipated, so I’m sure Brad wasn’t the first ‘man’ she dated before the age of 21, so why single him out??
Where did you read that Brad and Juliette were engaged? I have never read that anywhere I thought Gwyneth Palthrow was the only woman he was engaged to before marrying Jen Aniston.
Emma, BP and JL dated from ’89 to ’93. Lewis has also said in interviews that they lived together when she was 17. And any other man in their 20’s who dated Lewis before she was 18, even after she was “emancipated”, is equally gross in my books.
I’m more than willing to call out any other creepers if anyone can list names.
I should also mention that I can qualify Juliette claiming to have lived with Brad when she was 17 bc I heard her say it in the flesh- during a Q&A after a film screening. Straight from the horse’s mouth.
I thought her father was a Scientologist and she had been involved as a child.
Ugh, quit repeating nonsense. She did not live with Brad when she was 17. She was nearly 18 when she started dating him. They were friends for three years before they started dating so it is possible that she crashed at his place but they did not officially start dating until she was 18-19. The press has printed wrong info and now that is being recycled again.
No, it is the flamers posting misinformation that need to check their facts. Everybody knows Robin Givens had already left Mike Tyson months before dating Brad Pitt. Not to mention, Mike Tyson became dangerous to Robin and also cheated on her with prostitutes.
Brad Pitt was already an A-list star by 1994. Juliette probably gave him an early boost but after that he was one the one with the leverage and status.
Nobody slammed Johnny Depp for dating Winona when she was 17 which was confirmed.
She and Brad were never engaged. He was engaged to Jill and Gwyneth who cheated on him.
Truth, I heard Juliette Lewis say IN PERSON that she was living with Pitt when she was 17. No offence, but I’m going to take the word of the person who actually dated him over you!
You going to track the person who actually lived with him down and get mad at her for spreading “slanderous lies”, because you know their relationship better of course.
You should also watch The Secrets of Scientology by Panorama. It’s available on youtube and it’s a follow up on ‘Scientology and Me’. One of the Scientologist in Scientology and Me actually leaves CoS in the second one and sits down to be interviewed by the same person, spilling all the secrets and admits that CoS was stalking the BBC documentary maker and harassing him.
YES. This is the one where the lid is blown off, and he actually admits to the guy that Tommy Davis was specifically ordered to antagonise him, in an attempt to make him blow up.
Also, the CO$ cameras recording the people recording the documentary was a trip.
They also somehow had obtained transcripts of phone conversations in which Tommy Davis is laughing and tells Miscavige that he can make the BBC guy psychotic. They really get such a kick out of psychologically manipulating people.
Is weird that the most annoying thing about this story is Lewis’ current hair colour? I feel sorry for her scalp…
Yes, but compare it to the cornrows picture – what in hell was she smoking to allow herself to be seen on a red carpet looking like a lightbulb-headed mannikin with bright red lips? UGH.
I’m picturing Brad picking her up and she shows up at her door ready to go and him just standing there, going, “uhhhhh …?”, not allowing himself to say the dreaded: You’re wearing THAT???, and wanting to just drop her off at the door of the venue and taking off. Or finding a dark recess in which to hide.
I just had this scary thought – cornrows with her current red hair. Ughhhhh.
i had a BF who was definitely thinking that but was too polite to say it. It came up later in conversation, many years after the fact!
Doesn’t it occur to these celebrities involved with the cult that their status is being used in order to fulfill a selfish need by the cos? And that their personal well-being means nothing? I wouldn’t put it up with it from a “friend” let alone an entire organization of individuals. It’s so hard for me to wrap my head around this.
Agreed!!!
Oh but we’re all just “uninformed posters” and have no idea about the real deal. 🙄
I don’t think you understand how much scientologists identify with their organisation, and how deep the mind altering goes. Everything that is wrong in your life is because YOU have done something to ‘pull it in’. Everything that goes right in your life is thanks to Scientology.
In their minds Scientology isn’t using these people for their fame, they have Scientology to thank for everything they have. Then they just owe it to use their fame to spread the message as much as they can.
Good for Brad! I do wish he had managed to get Lewis out of there, though. But I guess it’s not that easy to convince one firm, indoctrinated and heavily brain-washed $ci to leave the cult.
Juliette Lewis and Jenna Elfman are the $cis I’m actually most pained to see sucked into that craziness. Maybe in time, if enough evidence that $ci is a cult comes out, they’ll see the light? But I don’t have much hope, especially for Jenna; she came into the co$ for her husband, basically, and seemed to be so convinced so quickly… I guess she’ll always be blind-sided by her love for him.
Lewis… I don’t know, she seems like the kind of free spirited bitch who is in for decades and then flips and changes her mind like that.
Sigh… let’s just hope for the best.
Good for Brad then. He’s a lot smarter than most people give him credit for. I’m guessing that the friendship with the Beckhams also ended because Tom tried to drag them into Scientology.
I forgot about the story that Tom Cruise making a weak ass attempt to recruit Jolie into Scientology. I wonder what she said back to him at that time?? LOL!! Too funny. 😀
Brad is a smart man. What a prize for CO$.
Brad is a smart man. What a prize for CO$ if they could have had him.
You have to watch the part where the british journalist loses it — after being relentlessly harrassed by Tommy Davis.
CB, you found this documentary creepy. Would you believe me if I told there’s another one even more frightening? It’s a French documentary called “Scientology — The Truth About a Lie”. I like this one better because it shows with Scientology has done to ordinary people.
*It shows what scientology has done to ordinay people.
I am really curious to check that out too. I saw the BBC one and was creeped out how they were being followed and videotaped. Rinder readily admitted in the follow up that he followed him from Florida to California and back on orders to make sure he was “where he was supposed to be”. The camera guy and his handler wouldn’t even talk when Sweeney approached them. Honestly, it’s that sneaky behavior and their known talking/harassing/blackmailing that really puts more attention on just how much of a cult the Co$ really is.
Eve did you find it on youtube? Does it have subtitles?
I don’t know…I watched it on a paid tv channel here in Brazil called GNT (the same that aired BBC’s documentary). So, there were subtitles in Portuguese for us. The French documentary is longer, by the way (2 hours long).
When I have a little time (can’t do it right now), I’ll do some research. If I find any link to a version with English subtitles, I’ll post it here — on a scientology-related thread, I mean.
Even with the fire engine-color hair, Juliette looks a helluva lot better now than she did then. I didn’t know that she was a Scientolobot. It boggles my mind that there are so many people who take that silliness seriously.
I agree 100% Onyx. She is looking better in these pics. Not too impressed with her arm candy tho.
So she’s with Katy Perry’s ex? severe downgrade but she looks happy. Isn’t he about 16 yrs younger than her?
LOL Kevin – me neither! (about the arm candy)
Her band, Juliette and the Licks (I don’t know if they’re still together) had a song called “20 Year Old Lover” I LOVE THAT SONG.
Kinda off topic but, I remember watching the Graham Norton Show a few months back, Zac Efron was on it and talking about how Tom Cruise rang him up and brought him out to the desert to rise motorbikes and going on and on about how cool it was. I turned to the hubs and said “dude was trying to recruit him into CO$” hubs replied that maybe TC wanted to learn High School Musical dance moves. Don’t know which of these ideas is more frightening.
Ok so totally off topic. Point is this wacky a$$ cult is fishing among the tween A-list now.
Definitely not off topic. It’s about recruiting or, at least, an attempt at recruiting, right? So it fits here 🙂 .
By the way, Cruise wanting to learn High School Musical dancing moves is the more frightening idea.
I read awhile back that Tom tried to recruit Brad when they work together on “Interview With A Vampire” and that’s why they were never friends and standoffish with each other.
Make me think how many other people that Tom has work with did he try to recruit.
i don’t know if it’s true but some journalists thought more about a war of ego (Pitt has the same trouble with Harrison Ford in a movie)
Really Tom tried to recruit Scarlett Johanson also, that is scary.
I wonder if that’s what happen with the Beckham’s ?
As for the ego thing I don’t think that true nether one has ever said anything bad or pompous about the other. I know if I were Brad and someone tried to recruit me into some crazy cult like Scientology I would be very standoffish.
A LOT, for sure. *shudder*
Scarlett Johanson ! she yet talked about it
I remember readi g that one of the clauses in his movie contract is to have a sciento-tent in the set. Idonot know if it is still true, but that would tell you somethingabout recruiting for his cult.
I’ve also read that he (or THEY, rather) provide a free espresso bar-type thing, which is for EVERYONE on set.
“Would you like whipped cream on that? And can I get you an audit?”
An audit=personalitty test.
Funny how they use a personality test hook (lots of people love to know about this stuff), which is kind of related to psychology.
Of course the test or audit’s result will be that you have negative things in your life that can be better with some scientology courses… That will be for free or cheap enough to get their claws in you and start exploiting you.
That was on the War of the World set. This was at the height of his craziness and when he was courting Katie. This was also when he went toe to toe with Matt Lauer and called out Brooke Shields (see where I’m getting at here?).
There was some fall out between him and Steven Spielberg because of this. Spielberg was particularly miffed that Tommy used the media circuit to pump up his beliefs. I don’t think they are friends anymore.
the INTERVIEW WITH A VAMPIRE set was a nightmare. Tom was acting like he was seriously threatened by Brad Pitt. He was super competitive the whole way through. If he also tried to recruit Brad amongst all the competitiveness, i can see why Brad doesn’t hang out with him, even in a polite-we-are-at-an-awards-show-superstars-together way.
Fresh coffee, the beans were Probly ground that day by the children in sea org!!
Didn’t he recruit JLo when she was having fertility problems by promising that CO$ could get her pregnant? It worked I guess.
They don’t have to recruit JLo. Her dad is practicing and her bff is Leah Remini – the raving $ci.
I think it’s a little icky they were dating when she was 16/17. Brad’s ten years older than her.
By 16 Juliette was no stranger to going on week long benders and shacking-up with men more than twice her age.
At the time Pitt was perceived as a calming influence.
Call it what you want. He was still dating an underage girl. Maybe he’s a great guy now but 26 year old Pitt sounds pretty gross to me.
Blah I don’t see the problem. If she was 16 (which is the legal age in most states and most countries) then thats not underage.
Underage to me is someone who isn’t legally an adult- who can’t vote. In some countries the legal age of consent is 14. Does that mean I’m schlepping a 14 year old? Even one who “grew up fast” and is experienced? No freaking way. Lewis and Pitt were not only dating when she was 17, they were living together. I don’t know about any of you, but if I knew a 27 year old guy living with a 17 year old, I’d think he was icky.
I’ve seen people call Woody Allen a pedo for getting involved with someone the same age, and even Sam Taylor Wood has been called a pedo for dating an 18 year old “bc even old soul 18 year olds are practically children”. Why does Pitt get a free pass? Forget it’s the “sexiest man in the world” for a minute.
Blah, “Underage to me is someone who isn’t legally an adult- who can’t vote.”
That is a totally separate issue and dragging that in only muddies the water. If a person is 16, they are of LEGAL AGE to CONSENT ie have sex. They are not ‘under age’ at all. You can get your driver’s licence at 16. Perhaps he was an ‘under aged driver’? There is a big difference between 16 and 14. I believe because some don’t like Brad, they are attacking him for this when they wouldn’t have a problem with it in real life. The fact is, she was not underage to enter a sexual relationship. Distorting it any other way is dishonest, no matter how much you may dislike Brad. He did absolutely nothing wrong or immoral.
Uh, how is me saying that I think he’s gross and icky immoral, dishonest, and distorting the truth? I brought up voting, etc to reinforce my definition of underage, and MY OPINION as to why I think anyone, regardless how much I like or dislike them who dates someone younger than 18 is gross. Calling somebody out for a creeper is not the same as accusing them of committing a crime. So weird, how nobody says what you’re saying when Sam Taylor Wood comes up in convo. With her it’s “ewwww”, but with Pitt it’s “stop attacking him”.
I’ve known of a couple adult men in real life who have dated 16/17 year olds, and I haven’t hesitated in telling them they’re gross and creepy. I’m holding Pitt up to the same standard. And you better believe that if a 27 year old started dating my teenager, I’d be after him with a pair of hedge clippers. Even if the law protects him.
This also has nothing to do with personal bias. There are things I like and dislike abt Brad. This is something i don’t like.
I agree. That has always tainted him in my mind.
Juliette Lewis was born in LA and brought up in Hollywood, the daughter of actor Geoffrey Lewis. She became an actor at age 14, left school at the same time and got emancipated when she was 15. When she got together with Pitt, at age 17, she had been living alone for 3 years and had been in trouble trouble with the law for driving illegally at age 15 and illegally patronizing a nightclub when she was 16. She was much older, experience-wise, than her Missouri brought-up, white-bread 26 year old boyfriend.
Brad Pitt had a string of underaged girlfriends while he was in his twenties.
I suppose they all exploited his naïveté.
@blah.
little “bird”s do fly all over the place don’t they. you little tired feather arms must be sore
lol
Huh? I’m confused? Because I think it’s icky for guys in their 20’s to date teenagers, and I posted how I met Juliette Lewis?
EDIT- ohh I get it- you’re inferring I’m a spy for CoS. Lol. If that’s the case, go and read my comments in the WWZ thread, as well as in any of the TomKat forums. Zenu and I aren’t exactly the best of chums.
Sheesh can’t anyone have a regular discussion without the tin foil hats breaking out?
If thinking Brad Pitt is icky means someone’s a Scientologist, I must be one too!
I had a friend who was very “experienced” by the time she was 16. Much of it not of her own choosing. Her 30-year old teacher started a sexual relationship with her. She was actually more naive than me, though so much more “experienced” — maybe because of that experience — and he exploited that.
Brad Pitt wasn’t in a position of authority over Juliette Lewis at least, but a guy in his late 20s dating a 16-year old is gross.
Thank you Emily! I thought I was taking crazy pills for a moment!
Anyway, I’m off to my auditing session, and then am heading to the Hole to make sure Tommy Davis and Shelly Miscavige are scrubbing floors with toothbrushes properly.
They get toothbrushes today? Moving on up from licking the floor with their tongues!
(Yes, Miscavige made someone do that. And L. Ron Hubbard was not one whit better. He may have been worse. He locked a 4-year old in a ship’s chain locker overnight.)
Everyone is obviously entitled to their opinion but people are judging wayy too harshly over something they don’t know much about. Not many of us know about their relationship dynamics. When I was 16 I dated someone in their late 20s, sure people thought it was ‘icky’. But I don’t regret anything nor see anything wrong with it. Again I don’t believe it applies to everyone but i don’t think people should judge unless they know both people pretty well and even then. There are obvious alarm bells that hints when something is not right, but personally I think it’s unfair to judge without knowing the people.
Ew, the guy who dated you sounds gross.
OMG. He did NOT date Juliette when she was 16. She was involved in another relationship with a guy who was also alot older than her. Brad was involved with somebody else.
She was a couple of months shy of 18 when she began seeing Brad. Alot of highschool juniors-seniors began seeing college guys. She also had experience with older guys way before Brad.
I am going to repeat it again: Robin Givens was separated when she began seeing Brad. Mike Tyson beat her and she left him. They were living separately and she had already dumped him.
Brad was separated for nearly three months before he started dating Jolie. Aniston also began her romance with Vince Vaughn before the divorce was finalized.
People need to get their facts straight before passing judgement.
Also, people like to see women as victims but it is Brad’s exes who victimized him and gained notoriety after being with him. He has always been classy towards them even when they betrayed him or was vindictive towards him.
Good lord.
Truth, Lewis and Pitt dated from ’89 to ’93. She was born in ’73. I’m sorry, but it’s a cold hard fact. She was 16, and he was 26.
http://www.examiner.com/article/brangelina-history-who-did-brad-pitt-date-before-angelina-jolie-and-his-marriage-to-jen-aniston
http://www.zimbio.com/dating/3HoxP0L5vNn/Brad+Pitt+dated+Juliette+Lewis/Juliette+Lewis
http://voices.yahoo.com/connecting-dating-dots-brad-pitt-5703458.html?cat=41
http://www.mahalo.com/brad-pitt-dating-timeline/
http://www.peter-reynders.de/WY/lewis.htm
He was gross for dating somebody 16 when he was 26. No matter how much experience she had, all the other older men who dated her were gross as well. They should all get together and be gross together and have a gross party.
It’s one thing for people like MaryJo and Lana to debate whether it’s ethical for kids to date older men (sorry but I think it’s nasty), but why are you getting up in arms at people stating facts?
I’m sorry if you’re a fan of Pitt. He was wonderful in 12 Monkeys and I’m sure he’s a lovely person who smells like Old Spice and unicorns and pleasant dreams, but the fact is that when he was 26, he was a gross guy dating a much younger teenager.
Actually he wasn’t. We were both painfully aware of the age difference, and I was the one who pushed for it and he wasn’t into it because ‘it was wrong’. Once more, you shouldn’t judge about things you have no clue about. Hell, for all I know he could be raging madman who had her under his control and god knows what.
I do like Brad as an actor, but I don’t like judgement that can potentially be damaging, hence the comment. Unless you know both people quite well, I don’t see how you would know what their relationship dynamics. By the way, it is not unheard of people dating younger and 16 IS age of consent. Is it moral? Ethical? That’s far too much a grey area and a complex debate to hinge on a simple fact of 16 and 26 year olds dating.
I remember this, I was in high school. They were on the cover of Rolling Stone. She had just done “Cape Fear” and she talked about Scientology then I think
I clearly remember reading about Juliette being RAISED as scientologist, she is second generation sciento. Her father is, At least as per internet information.
Also, the way she was a child actor and became independent from her parents while young is telling of her acting as an adult at a young age. (I understand that many HW children do this as well, becoming emancipated to be able to work more). I used to kind of respect Lewis, but after seeing that awful pic of her with Terry Richardson I think differently.It looks just like her! Ewwwwww!
Good for Brad for not becoming involved.
I tried to edit my posts but it won’t let me. However, I think I got my message across even though I responded to attacks against me late.
It is sad that flamers who believe lies are resorting to cite links are not reputable and are known to print inaccuracies about celebs to cite as fake proof.
Not Travie McCoy! I’m not even a huge Gym Class Heroes fan; I’m kinda surprised at how disappointed I was when I hit the part about him dating her. Run away from the tin cans, Travie!
I don’t know why but this made me laugh
I know! the most upsetting part to me out of this whole article was when I saw Travie. I’d hate for him to get brainwashed.
It would makes sense for Brad not to be interested. He is not a religious person so I don’t see him embracing a “CULT” that tells you how to believe and live. Goes against everything he was in odds with regarding religion.
Brad has never said anything negative about Tom and neither has Tom. I have seen a few interviews where the interviewer is always trying to get them to diss the other and it doesn’t happen. So they may not be best friends or whatever, but I think the respect and like each other professionally.
I don’t think they like each other at all. I think it’s strictly professionalism. They don’t really bash anyone in interviews.
only JLO was unprofessional enough to bash many people in that infamous interview. Funny that she had to work with Cam D after calling her a ‘lucky model’
Run, Travie, Run.
I’m really surprised she’s dating Travie. eh whatever.
“had no actual statements from the actresses due to legal threats from Scientology”
I can’t imagine any other group being angry that statements by people defending that group were being aired, let alone suing over it. That shows Scientology has everything to hide.
Some of the videos were removed! :O
Brad dodged two bullets there-Juliette Lewis and Co$….
Juliette rocks. Kooky yes, but also sweet and enormously talented. And yes- I have met her a couple times. Brad should feel lucky that she’s given his collection of bland and boring A list exes some flair.
I am not a fan of Bead, but I will give him credit for getting out of there and not buying into their crap.
I think COS probably looks at recruiting anyone who becomes famous. And I am convinced that Tom doesn’t know how to be a normal person or actually be friends with people. Any extension of friendship by him is really just recruiting. Gross.
Juliette is a longtime scientologist, if I remember correctly she was brought up in the cult, her father, actor Geoffrey Lewis, is an early convert.
Dear Brad,
Thank you for having half a brain.
I take back what I said yesterday about you looking like an old shoe.
Good luck with WWZ.
xoxo
Your Newest Fan
The word ‘grounded’ doesn’t seem to apply to any of the cult’s members.
And none of them seem more evolved, wise, happier etc. so what is the point in joining?
Now, Bobby, let’s not try to confuse the Sci-CO$ with little things like honest questions and pointing out the glaring inconsistencies. /sarcasm (for now)
You actually make a damn good point. I’d love to ask some of them, or watch someone ask some of them, that question. Something along the lines of “Well, for such an advanced level of OT, you sure seem angry and unhappy. How has CO$ helped you with that?”
well, that couples counseling that they do to save marriages is going real well (rolling my eyes)…
He’s had lots of practice with Momma Pitt.
I thought I’d heard that Juliette came from a family of Scientologists also..
Juliette Lewis is a smiking co$ freak. She is so ugly what was Pitt event thinking? I wonder if she knew he was going to be such a big star if she would have left with him. Because he wasn’t the sauve gentleman he is today.
Did you all see over on People.com that the car Katie and Suri were riding in was hit by a dump truck? No injuries were reported but this looks suspicious to me.
I saw that at the Village Voice. It is scary. Especially after all the anti-Suri comments I’ve been seeing around.
Will the cult please put Lindsay on their list of celebrities to be’ recovered’. Take her alien fire crutch arse! To harsh???
Lol you know this not going to happen even they don’t want her or want her association with the cult to ruin their reputation. Lol
I know 🙁 But was hoping if they can hide john’s t sexuality then maybe they could hide her crazy crack ways. Lol! 😜
JL was a $ci before Brad – like someone mentioned previously, she’s second-generation (Suri, look at those pix and thank your mother. This could have been you.) She’d been steeped in it too long, so when BP wouldn’t do it, they broke up.
But who was driving the trash truck that swiped Katie’s car? Do they pick up trash in Manhattan at 9:30 at night? (Honest question. In Cali they like to start at 4 or 5 in the morning, all the better to wake you.)
I’m disappointed that The Jolie wasn’t recruited. Most of us agree that there shouldn’t be a fourth ex-Mrs. Cruise. However, if there is to be one then Cruise should hook up with someone/thing that is CO$. If he’s not going for a CO$ woman, his ONLY non-CO$ option is Angelina Jolie. I wouldn’t be interested in seeing him with anyone else, if she is non-CO$, hollywood and glamorous.
Cruise and Jolie would be the ultimate Alpha battle face off. He’s crazy Alpha and she’s Alpha Alpha. Brad was too easy to tame, he just surrendered. Meh! Tom, on the other hand, would be a challenge Jolie would enjoy. It’ll be a clash of civilizations! Epic.
For Tom, it would be the ultimate battle of seduction – The Jolie or Miscavige?
If it ever happens, my bet is on The Jolie. Miscavige will fail miserably to keep Tom bound to CO$. He won’t be able to fight Jolie and her Maleficent horns. He’ll accept defeat in public and slave labor for Jolie for the rest of his pathetic life.
Tom will be kicked back to senses; he’ll record another 2008-like video where he will replace Scientology with The Jolie. He’ll be a stay-at-home daddy when Jolie is shooting and a production assistant for Jolie when she’s directing.
Brad will be crying at some corner. Who cares for Brad anyway?
😀
Mira…that is an awesome scenerio! Can you imagine, we’d have updates hourly! TommyGirl trying to “live up” to Ang and Brad sucking his thumb.
@Mira – LOL. Love it!!!
If Angie was sporting a penis it would be a done deal.
@Chatcatty, LAK, Kevin – I don’t think any one (woman) other than Jolie can crash Tom’s bubble. Even regular pictures of Cruise and Jolie screams competitiveness, authority, determination, aggressiveness, and confidence. They’ll be fun to watch together and I’ll always bet on Jolie.
Okay, this shows how absurd the haters have become and that they do not understand these people at all.
I care about Brad. He and Angelina would never hurt each other. I actually think this might be one of the rare relationships that last.
Even if they did break up, Angelina would never go for Tom Cruise. She would never be into COS or tolerate it.
and they could be called tombelina…lol, tom would be terrified of ang wouldn’t he… she’d no doubt tell him he’d been a very naughty boy!
Re Brad and Juliette; there was rumour on a site, can’t remember which, that Brad told a producer that Juliette was his girlfriend to avoid an “encounter”, up until then they did not have a relationship.
She’s dating Travie? Interesting couple.
Maybe he should have broke up with her because she was only 16?
Bravo on calling Scientology what it is, a CULT! Anyone who still doubts it should read this article “Scientology’s Shame: Karen de la Carriere Stuns KFI Radio; ALSO: Katie and Suri’s Accident” at The Village Voice. It’s about a former member who’s son died and they refused to let her view her son’s body before he was cremated, It’s pretty heartbreaking. There’s another article on there called “Strange Happenings In Tom Cruise’s Building” that’s just what it says, strange!
I read those articles too, village voice has some great links. It’s a real eye opener on how they operate and the hurt caused by so few to so many.
It certainly looks like there’s some sort of implosion happening; With so many “high ranking” people leaving, including L.Rons granddaughter and DM’s niece and more court cases in progress, more large financial settlements with ex members etc. So many of them live in a bubble, it makes you wonder what will happen to the rest of them when it all falls apart for good.
The funniest thing I read about Juliette Lewis is about some dude trying to serve her with court papers at Scientology center, she chased him down and gave the papers back. She also tried to get back with Pitt when he split with Aniston.
She only looked cute when she was young, now she looks ugly with that weird forehead. Don’t think Pitt split with her over Scientology, he took some of Cos courses, he just moved to greener pastures
In recent years, I find I have more and more respect for Brad Pitt. He really is grounded, honest, and a nice guy. He does really important charity work, and seems to be really devoted to his family. I don’t think we will ever know the whole story behind the love triangle and I don’t think Jennifer Aniston is as innocent as she wants people to believe.
I don’t know why peoples’ opinions of Brad, Angie, and JA hinge on something really stupid and insignificant that happened nearly ten years ago, that they’ve all moved on from. Everyone in Hollywood cheats, and there are more than plenty other reasons to either like or dislike any of them.
+1
I didn’t care at the time, I don’t care now. It happened ages ago. I don’t get what’s so fascinating about it. I am so tired of seeing it brought up again every week on the covers of tabloids in the checkout lane.
I only brought it up because he got a lot of flak for it back when it occured and has done a lot of good since then.
Brad actually has strong morals and anybody who actually knows him would acknowledge that. Don’t go by tabloid misportayals or character assasination that was well-calculated by Aniston’s PR team who exploited the presumptions that resulted from tabloid garbage.
He did NOT cheat on Aniston nor was Jolie the cause of the divorce. However, most people are utterly brainwashed by the corruption and her false persona that she got through Pitt in the first place. He was separated for three months before he actually started dating Angelina.
It is horrible reading lie after lie with these articles though this is quite tame compared to the hate and attacks I usually read against him.
The social-climber claim is so ridiculous and utterly false. He earned his A-list status and appeal through his own. It was his exes who benefitted through his status. Minus Juliette, he was more famous and accomplished than all of his partners. By 1994, he was one of the world’s biggest movie stars.
The track record and history of his ex’s do not equate social climbling since he had a higher status, image, and clout than them. Even Angelina’s status was starting to decline into the B-list after her Oscar win, before she got with Brad.
You go by when people actually start dating, not by when they met. Juliette was 18 when they started dating. She moved into his place when she was 17 after she had to leave her previous relationship.
Robin Givens was already separated for about a couple of months and this was stated and confirmed years ago.
Brad is the one who has a history of being hurt, betrayed, or used by the women in his life…not the other way around.
Who wants to guess how many restraining orders BP has issued against Truth? I’m going with 6, at the very least.
@Truth — Whom are you addressing? I hope it wasn’t me at all, because anything involving the Interminable Triangle of Dullness sounds like adults in a Charlie Brown cartoon to me.
All this crazy nonsense makes me worry about Katie. Suri not so much, I don’t think Tom would let COS do anything to her. But Katie blindsided him and the church. They can’t be handling that well.
Tom let the Co$ alienate his other children from their mother. He was going to let the Co$ audit Suri. And if Suri did turn out to need psychological help for any reason, he would have kept it from her. He’s a true believer in the cult; he took its leader on his honeymoon. Suri wouldn’t have been enslaved in the Sea Org, but that doesn’t mean she wouldn’t have been abused.
There was a blind recently revealed that Brad and Juliette were “set up” and they were not a real couple. They were “put together” by their handlers because they were both getting a lot of attention at the time. So engaged or not, it was a fake relationship. They do that all the time now, and they did it all the time then too (since the 1940s actually), but we just weren’t as aware of it as we are now. They always were an odd couple. Even the picture of them here looks like he is disconnected from her.
“odd” is the operative word here when speaking of these two together. Jeez
Has anybody seen the latest CO$ carnage to be mentioned on other sites? JT and KP are splitting because JT wants to get himself and his kids out of the cult? PLEEEEAAASSSSEEE. Chronic masseuse abuser is looking to clean up his shit image by blaming Kelly and the cult. JT is seriously delusional (well he is really seriously delusional) if he thinks to gain empathy and redemption points by pulling this stunt.
You guys do realize how there are so many COS “employees” working for Tom Cruise, right? Technically they are employees of and paid by COS through tax deductible “donations” from Cruise, which is then filtered back to Tom Cruise in the form of “gardeners, cooks and drivers,” etc. Pretty crafty, no?
yes interesting isn;t it, The man in the bubble; he appears to have few real “friends” other than sc. people or potential recruits. I believe some exmembers have taken legal action in regards to being paid below minimum wage etc; the organisation have been found guilty of fraud in other countries and it is all one entity.
My theory on Pitt, he’s a hollywood social climber, first it was Robin Givens, at that time she was on of the hottest things on T.V.
she was bigger than he was, than came the 16 year old Juliette Lewis, again the was hot at the time, next came Gwyneth Paltrow, than Jennifer marriage, and we all know the rest. To me he’s a social climber
I’ve commented on that before, too…he likes to trade up. Not sure where he’d go next, though, now that he’s landed the ultimate prize, lol.
Late breaking news. Brad Pitt is dumping Angie for GOD!
Angie has not commented as of yet but is reported to have said “what God did was really uncool”
Blah, hilarious…takes the unholy triangle to a whole new level!
That’s a very interesting theory. You might be correct.
He was in a relationship with Thandie Newton after interview with a vampire
@Eddy – you do realise every actor who wants to become famous is a social climber?? fake, real, bearding etc it doesn’t matter. They all leverage their relationships for fame and money.Tom Cruise dated Cher in her 80s heyday.
2ndly after the quadfecta of INTERVIEW WITH THE VAMPIRE,LEGENDS OF THE FALL, THELMA & LOUISE and A RIVER RUNS THROUGH IT [1991-94]….Brad was an A list movie-star. Any GFs he had after that were leveraging HIS fame not the other way around. And boy did they leverage it. It turbo charged their careers.
GOOP was still playing small supporting parts when they met on the set of SEVEN.[1995] She was not famous at all.
Jen Aniston was in an ensemble TV show. no1 TV show, but not the most memorable character and all her film attempts at that point were laughable.[1999]
Angelina was a movie star in her own right but with a different type of fame to his.[2005]
Brangelina went through the roof, and we still live in their orbit whether you like them or not.
+100
It’s interesting that some are commenting about Brad being a social climber. Robin Givens and Juliette Lewis are the only two I heard of before Brad. GOOP, was this gangly, tall, daughter of Blythe Danner and as I recall in JLo’s infamous interview became famous by association with Brad. JA was a famous TV actress known more for her hair and wasn’t nominated for any awards until she hooked-up with Brad. She became attractive by the press when she hooked up with Brad. Would we be talking talking about her today if she married Tate Donovan? As good looking as he was in the late 80’s and 90’s he could’ve elevated his fame by just dating a Supermodel like Cindy Crawford, Naomi Campbell, Kate Moss… He certainly didn’t need these plain Janes for social/or fame climbing.
Absolutely, Eddy! I couldn’t agree more…I think that is so true.
It’s not true. The only truth is that Brad dated actresses regardless of looks and status and Jolie is the first one that matched him in beauty and status. Robin Givens was famous cuz she married Mike Tyson, Goop became famous for dating Brad, JA became more famous for hooking up with Brad, an A list movie star. Did anyone know that Brad was first engaged to Jill? a not so famous B-C list actress. So much for social climbing.
yeah, i watched the two Panarama docs on YouTube a couple weeks ago. they’re so easy to watch on YouTube here are the URLS for each
Secrets of Scientology:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJkQdLTJWwo
Scientology and Me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFRSt_viosc
*Juliette L I love her humor, but bummed she’s CO$ Kirstie, Anne A (Tommy Davis’ mom…jesus)all had a bolistic FREAK out.
*Watch Tommy Davis- he is the Devil’s ‘good looking’ buddy, Jesus hold me! he is SCARY! his ‘communication’ tactics are lethal…disturbing and ohhh, ‘instructed ‘ to Scientologists
Tommy Davis hasn’t been seen in over a year, he’s in the RFP or the CO$ prison facility which is a bunch of trailers where the people being “reeducated” are kept doing manual labor and cleaning toilets and are verbally abuse while being fed a substandard diet. This is not a church folks.
Tommy’s wife will not respond to questions when asked where he is or when he will be coming home. Scary.
Very scary. The cult is more important than anything else to the people in it, which is one of the marks of a cult. If anyone tried to keep my husband from me, I’d raise absolute hell everywhere I could, make it known to every media outlet and blog I knew of, and not rest until he was with me again. If I had to drive a tank through the gates and shove a rocket up David Miscavige’s ass personally, I’d do it. But neither Tommy Davis’ wife nor his mother will lift a finger for him. Terrifying.
I don’t get the age controversy about Brad and Juliette. Say she was 17? So what? In Hollywood, being 17 is like being 27. In most countries, the aged of sexual consent is 16 anyway.
The idea that teenagers in Hollywood are some type of holier than thou pure angels is a myth.
Are you serious? Do you understand why we have these laws? It’s to protect minors.
“But they’re Hollywood teenagers, it doesn’t count” – Do you hear how that sounds? It doesn’t work that way.
Are some 17 year olds mature for their age? Yes. Are most 17 year old mature for their age? No.
We go with the majority and make no exception just because it’s “Hollywood teenagers”.
We should be thankful you’re not in charge, eh.
So this is 20+ year old news. And now all of a sudden some people are all up in arms. Well funny they sure never said a thing during his “marriage” or years after. Now today 20+ years later he needs to be hung out to dry.
wonder where all these people were all those many many many many many years ago. hmmm wonder what changed.
oh yeah I know.
Good point lisa2
i love how all you people are getting your panties in a wad over this shit. who cares!!!
Testing glitch before I respond.
I responded to Blah: What you listed was NOT proof and those sites are not reputable. Any flamer can post a bunch of random links that post misinformation which Pitt and Juliette denied over 10-15 years ago. You did not disprove or prove anything and you have to be ignorant to go by those sites.
The media is in a state where it is easy to find online access to lies than to facts/truth/confirmations/denials from Pitt’s camp especially since it is from over a decade ago. The longtime Pitt fans know that everything I said was factual.
I am not crazy or a stalker for defending Brad Pitt from slanderous remarks.
That list from those sites listed a bunch of inaccuracies and some hookups that didn’t even happen like Geena Davis that were denied a long time ago. I can’t find access to all of Brad’s statements online but I & his associates know the made them.
He did NOT date Juliette for six years. They were NOT romantically involved from when they first met. That is a misconception. They did not date during that tv movie, in fact they were both seeing other people. They started dating after they shot Kalifornia. They were together 2.5-2 year off and on, not for six years.
I also heard Brad and Juliette discuss this personally so I am not going to be manipulated by what a flamer says.
Juliette also stated that it was not serious, that it was like a junior high-highschool romance, and that it was overblown by the media.
Alot of those sites go by tabloids and rumors that were denied by celebrities camps. I know what the truth is, I don’t have to cite invalid links for it especially when most of those sites lie without shame. A list of Angelina’s dating history would also be full of lies and denied rumors on most of those random celeb sites. Use common sense. Don’t blindly accept what you read.
The whole misconception with Juliette and Robin was cleared up over twenty years ago officially yet tabloids have to recycle made up controversies.
a friend of mine for 25 years is a Sci. she joined up when she was in her 1st year of college. she was sucked in by the Hollywood/celebrity bs and wanted to be part of that elite world. Now she works for one of the celebs in the church but it is not an industry job, it is a fund raising job. She has become a drunk she is attention starved and she talks about herself for hours. Her, her, her, her, her, and she is a pathalogical liar and she cheats on her sci. husband alot. I had to dump her as a friend. It was ugly. The church has taught her not to feel guilty if she hurts others, it is their problem if they get hurt. basically it is ok to stab the people who love you in the back. SICK!
of all the chicks Brad has dated, Juliette is the best actress of them all, hands down.